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Australian Survivor: HvV Cast Assessment and Draft

Podcast episode · 20 Jan 2023 · 1 hr 46 min

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0:01 Foreign [Music] [Music] [Music] foreign [Music] [Music] welcome back to the nullify Tech channel here on YouTube also streaming live and Twitter and all audio platforms where you'll be able to listen to this afterwards I'm your host Chris and with me today is my co-host for the whole season of Australian Survivor that's right he will be going to the final two with me it is Mucky how you doing I'm doing fantastic Chris how are you doing bro yeah not bad at all mate it's been a

1:21 Busy week I've had a lot going on I may have had way too much caffeine today but I feel like I'm gonna need it because we've got quite a bit to go through today and talk about this new season all the new players and existing players that are returning to the show on a scale of one to ten how excited are you about this I am 11 mate honestly 11 out of 10. you know while like the whole speculation about Heroes versus Villains being mixed newbie Mr attorney has been kind of looked down upon I've been like really excited for the season for a long time and I have a good feeling that there's going to be a top two season of Australian Survivor well that is a big call by my ride or die Mucky here for the season he reckons this is going to be a top season yeah so yeah that's the important question before we even get into it are you team hero or Team Villain going into this season honestly Team Villain you know villains are way more fun you know like when you look at a lot of a lot of Seasons where players are quite heroic like for both Champions first Contender season you know the her players dominate you know it's time that we have a true fill in this player went like a David So praying that a villain player takes it out this year yeah I think that a lot of people that are watching the show especially those

2:41 That have been a fan from day one and that have seen all of the US show that go and watch maybe the South African version and the Australian version fans of that level not the Casual fans that got into Australian Survivor and maybe only watch Australia survive because I don't know how they would feel about it but I feel like the die-hard fans were probably all Team Villain in a certain way we want to see some devious Play We I don't want to be I don't want this season to be a season of mateship Mucky oh absolutely if this is all about nature then you know yeah support in a vacuum cleaner you know like it'll just be terrible it'll be terrible Amanda welcome you to the live saying not me randomly being up to be alive I'm so excited for the season Australian Survivor levels over U.S Survivor and yeah I mean listen I feel like they're both good in their own right I've got criticisms of Australian Survivor as well but I'm excited for it and Amanda this is a great life to be a part of because we're going to go through the whole cast and we're going to be doing our picks for the season so you can take part in it and maybe even let us know who you would have picked Jenny welcome to the live as well saying so excited for this season I'm worried about Sam being too major man I was literally thinking of Sam as I said major but let's not talk about any of the cars before we actually get into it without further Ado how this is gonna work Mucky I know this is the first time you're doing one

4:02 Of these with me is that we're gonna have a will without both our names on it and I'm gonna spin this wheel to determine who's gonna go first so this is going to be to determine who goes first if you're going first then the person who goes second gets to select the order so it makes it a bit fair so you can choose to go first but the person who selects or go second can select the order and they can either say you have to go female first or you have to go male first on your picks and it's got a snake drive going up and down God I've got a great idea we should do male or female or returning player a new player yeah well you can determine that if you are the person that goes second you can determine that so we'll leave that on the table as a potential to go that way as well and let's get into it a little bit of a spin do you want to go first or second here Mucky or is it on me let's have a look oh it might be me oh what a Stitcher you know I'm gonna you know what I feel I feel very bullish about I think what I want to do in this one but it's so tough because you get to select the order if I do go first I'm gonna go second I'm gonna go second so you'll go first which means that I will

5:22 Be the one that will select the order of what we're going to be doing here so let me just change this around and Maki you'll go first and we'll start this one off with a male no actually let's go female first female first and then male so it'll be female for you male for me I will then get basically you'll get the first female pick I'll get the first male pick on this one and we'll go up and down snake draft I'm Gonna Keep It male female at this point I don't want to go newbies and return new players so I'm Gonna Keep It whoever whatever goes at this stage all right Mucky so you're up first and you're gonna have to select a female as your first time so the female that I'm picking she's my winner pick of the season so I would love to pick Queen Shawnee that's my first book Shawnee off the board here in the first round tell us monkey what do you like about Shawnee coming back this season I mean like what's there not to like you know Shawnee like it makes sense while she's the first three-time Australian Survivor player which is extremely good socially she's really good strategically challenge wise she seems a big kid bitter

6:42 Each time she plays you know she won two individual amenities and All Stars compared to the first time she played with she only won once and I think this is the season for her to win you know she's got a big enough Target but with people like George and Haley on the season they're going to be able to camouflage her I reckon in the first few early days and I think she's just gonna somehow make it to the end and everyone's like oh my gosh how did we let Shawna get there so I think this is the season for Shawnee to win I'm not necessarily going to disagree with you and for those that are listening to this for the very first time they've never been with a draft of any of the drafts or the nullified take how this draft is going to work is that this whole season we're going to get points for the players that we have in our teams those points would include confessionals so I mean Shawnee is a confessional Queen she's going to give you Sean team the whole season and she for every time one of these players get a confessional you get one point Team Challenge wins will give you five points individual immunity wins will give you eight points making the merge will give you five points successful and a successful Advantage play will give you 10 points finding an advantage will give you five points and because it's Australian Survivor each player that gets zero confessions in an episode will get three points we brought that specifically in for Australian Survivor because

8:02 We know that a lot of people will be getting those three pointers monkey yeah I know definitely not shiny but I could definitely see a case where I think like if not a lot is going on the villains tribe I could never see a case where she does get zero confessional especially if you have players like George Jordi Evan Simon he's been like quite heavily in the Primo so I definitely think there's a chance that maybe it's some more lighter episodes not about the balenci cricket Sarah professionals but yeah the difference is one of the best confessional givers I'll say her and Luca the top two yeah surrounding it out on the points if you get a vote against you it's minus one point so for each vote you get a minus one point runner up 25 points winner gets 50 points and then we've got a whole bunch of bonus categories which will include most confessionals most individual immunity wins most advantages found lease votes against you by the end of the season and most advantages played correctly for the season those are 25 points each it's going to keep it nice and interesting until the end to see who's going to win this one outright but I like your pick for Shawnee I think she's going to score across a lot of those different categories I did not expect Shawnee to be the first three-time player and I definitely didn't expect her to be the first three-time player coming back or the only three-time player coming back I feel like there was a bunch of heavyweights that were left off the table but you know I'm excited

9:23 To see what Shawnee can do in this tribe she's in the right tribe for me I know a lot of people were confused as to why she was a villain I'm not confused like I'm she's not a bad villain she's the fun-loving villain the one that you kind of want to root for I think in the game yeah I think I definitely understand the argument for a hero because definitely in both first Seasons she was one that all of us were heavily rooting for you know fan favorite odds yeah she was Ben favorite twice in both the seasons you know and so yeah I deficit the whole Underdog heroic kind of aspect because she definitely plays for the people at home you know because both times she's played you know she's been surrounded by athletes and champions in the field but she was just an ordinary person so yeah that's true okay I've done a bit of an arrangement here just so that I don't accidentally share my rankings with you between screens so I don't want to make it too easy for you I had Shawnee as my third overall pick for the season so she was going to be number three for me you could have left her for a few more rounds but I don't think that there's much between the top three for me and what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna go for I'm gonna go for my number one pick I'm gonna go all in on this one I didn't think I was gonna get this person because I thought you would take them can Haley do the unthinkable and go two times can't you win back to back that's

10:43 The question here that everybody will be asking we saw U.S Survivor we had Sandra Dias twine go out there she ended up being the first two-time winner she was a villain though could it be that a hero this time becomes a two-time winner I don't know but what I do know is that she's been all over the promos she's been heavily featured in those promos she's definitely going to get a lot of confessionals this season I think that if she makes it to the merge she's going to be a big person so she's going to definitely get me points across a lot of those things she's great at individual immunity I mean she could go to Redemption Island and fight her way back and still win this season Australian Survivor gives you a get out of Life free card sometimes so I do think that Haley is a strong player and even though she's a winner and she's coming back and she should be targeted I think that she's good enough socially and strategically to get to the merge and when she gets to the merge Anything is Possible yeah what do you think of that pick oh like I definitely love the peg like Haley was also in the top three for me as well I definitely think that with Hayley she's got a messable's eye on a same as like Henry same as like David and all stars and I definitely think who's going to go far in my food order predictions ahead of going out at the final nine I kind of like the final 10 9 8 spot this tend to be with most

12:03 Massive players go out in Australian Survivor I definitely think she's going to do extremely well but I think like this is too big of a Target on a like I think we can both agree with how the posters are set up with how the promise have been set up this is the George and Hayley show you know this season was meant for Jordan Hayes I think both of them are definitely going to go quite far but I think are you reading my mind because I do have the first guy pick and you spoke about the person I'm gonna pick first I'm gonna pick George that's my first pick as well for the guys so I might as well just do that right now since you've been mentioning him and I didn't think I was going to come into this draft getting both of them but they're both being heavily featured in the promos they're all over the posters now if you and watch Australian Survivor you know and you look at those promos a lot of the times the winner is heavily featured right from the start so I wouldn't be surprised if this becomes the Haley vs George show if they both go to emerge and if the best between them is the one that actually goes ahead and wins the season but I'm getting very much Redemption vibes from all the promos you know where George is saying I'm coming back from my crown that was stolen from me you know it's really funny seeing them sort of talk up this rivalry which you know that they're best friends or good friends in any case in real life it's going to be interesting to see and listen George is going to get all the confessionals

13:23 He's going to find advantages if he can make it past the first week he's going to be good now should he be good no if I didn't see the promos would I have picked George this high no I would not have picked George this high if I didn't see the promos and if I didn't see how much the marketing team wants us to know about King George coming back this season and how he's got this big reputation so that tells me that even though some of the promos shows him in trouble early on he's gonna do what he does best and then just play From The Bottom Mucky yeah well it's actually quite funny you mentioned that the winner being heavily featured and because there's something I've been looking at so I've been trying to read the primaries as well and Brian's whistles Brawn and both the chambers verse Contender season they didn't show the winner pre-season Haley didn't get a single promo for Brands versus Braun it was all about George and stuff and for the first chance of your contenders it was like the Benji the heath the Matt Rogers promos you know so yeah I think Jordan hate the other players of the season I actually have them growing up back to back final 10 final nine I can't similar to like the Matt Benji but I sort of about this I think is going to go but I did quite like the promo I think it's one of the first primers that came out where they tried to acknowledge the greatest battles in history and

14:43 It was Luke skyk against Darth Vader you know does a gladiator match up Harry Potter vs Voldemort and then it was just Hayden George is the next one I don't know quite funny I just want to read a couple of comments that have come in here since we've spoken about them so Marcus here says Marcus welcome back to the live says Shawnee is very much like a Courtney Yates and is in the original Heroes vs villains snarky confessionals giving zero F's and deserves to be in the villain's tribe 100 agree yeah I think we both agree Amanda Coliseum actually a George fan I find his peculiar I find his peculiar self and ways funny I think he's great like I know he wasn't everybody's cup of tea last season when he was on and some people got really annoyed by him and other people's really loved him he was bit polarizing I think but ultimately I like the guy now the one weakness George does have I will say is he's not great at the physical stuff so how's he going to do in the early days for his tribal he do physically good enough I don't know if he was mentally in the in the puzzles and stuff if he was really at that level I think wave really helped his tribe in that season so I don't know if he even is that much of a benefit for them there but I do know that he's been working out and he got ready for this one season a bit better shape than what he was the first time he played yeah hi Christina oh hi Christina yeah I think yeah

16:03 Because I recall I sent it to my cousin actually because his master George fan and I was telling him like look George is posting a lot you know he's hanging out with Jordan from blood versus water his skin he's like edit gym constantly I think he's on the next season and we're both like car probably not probably not but as soon as announces Heroes versus bellancy it was obviously yeah also hear Tom saying there's no way George can make it far again that being said I want him to win I'm with you Tom I was team George the first time he played I'm team George again this time nothing against Hayley because I've got both of them in my team this time so I don't have to choose I can have them both in my team and hopefully one of them will win this season for me but it's gonna be tough so I have gone and selected the second female and the first male of this draft but it's my first male and female picks you now get to select your first mail also for this draft who are you gonna pick with everybody that's still left on the board well you know you talk about Jordan Haley being the obvious place but I feel like this pack is probably the most obvious of them all you know I feel like you lift them up intentionally or unintentionally but he's the sneakers play out there he's the villainous of all villains I'm gonna pick sneaky Steve sneaky Steve the first black

17:24 Knight of villains in Survivor history Russell straight up I don't know what you've been doing before you got on this podcast but I had no idea that you're gonna go for sneaky steep as your first mail pick it's a great choice it's an inspired Choice I'm normally the wild man and the crazy one when it comes to the drafts I want to know why did you pick sneaky Steve as your first guy why do you think he's going to come into the season and do the impossible well you say because his here's a brilliant thing about Steve right you know he was the fourth one out of Champions versus contenders No One's Gonna remember him you know you've got George Simon Shawnee Jordy all this massive targets and then the Steve you know he it was all part of his cunning plan you know the first travel Council he even though you know he was about to go home if it wasn't for Matt Dyson blowing up he would have gone but he made sure that Matt Dyson would love would blow up and grow in his game you know so that's not sneaky Steve's quick spy and he is coming in you know wanting to take out Shawnee we're gonna miss vampire which I think that could do him in but not sneaky Steve you know everyone thinks Andrew Tates top G sneaky Steve is top G in my opinion that was

18:44 Not a game I was expecting to hear in this podcast YouTube police just fast forward past that listen Stevie sneaky Steve as he comes back this season I was a bit of a surprise to me to see him come back I do like him as a character I think he was a great character the first season that he played I wanted him to go deep but I've got to be honest mate like he's coming in he's the oldest guy at 62. he doesn't have as big of a reputation but like you said that could play in his favor he doesn't have the reputation off of George but I do think he can be as sneaky as George he never really got a full grip on the game and never really had the opportunity to show us what he could do strategically so maybe there is some hope for him here the one thing he does have in his Arsenal at least is the fact that he's a returning player so you'd hope that he would have socialized with some of these players beforehand and I don't think he's going to be someone that is necessarily like threatening from a physical standpoint for people like George and I don't know how George is going to feel about him being sneaky that's maybe something he'll work against but I think that there's going to be some bigger targets coming after him very early on and it won't be Steve no yeah exactly it's like you know Steve in my opinion you would spot him out first because he's that sneaky you know he's like he's the villain of all villains in my opinion you know we're gonna get some Russell hands conventionals from them

20:04 He's going to be burning people's clothes from the fire at night you know I'm ready to see him to take the win yeah you've got it as well so you've got I praise for him sneaky Steve was my number eight so you could have left him definitely for a while still I wouldn't have gone for him immediately but you know if he's your man if he's the one that you want to back this season who am I to tell you differently I do think that Amanda however though does agree with me as she says I'm sorry don't think he's lasting so they've got low hopes for you so far here but you can Rectify it here with your next pick who's gonna be your next pick when it comes to the woman the woman I'm gonna go Rogue you're completely going bro on this whole draft at the moment let me find it she's right over there right so Rogue tell us about Rogue what stood out for you on Rogan why you chose us so early on honestly so I had it as a potential top pre-season Contender to win and then her promo came out and all that just came plummeting down but I think it's gonna be a really fun character you know so this is why you choose I should have taken female because you think that she's not Gonna Go Far well because I'm

21:24 Kind of getting like Chrissy vibes from her you know we're basically together with her promotions going around you know she sounds a bit cuckoo you know the people like oh you know she's like a bit a bit nuts you know some of the stuff that she's saying but I think that's actually going to help her and again because people won't take her as seriously like quite similar to Chrissy she became like the mum of the tribe you know she used her humor to really help that solidify her lines and to keep going forward and I think Road could easily doing the same thing I think she might be a tiger in the first round possibly that I think all the villains are going to all the pre-spot tribals anyway so I think Rogue can definitely make a deep run this easy listen I'm I don't know if I agree with you I had his number 10. so you'll go you at the moment you're playing definitely into my hand in regards to the fact that you're not picking the people that I want to pick and that to me is okay I could be horribly wrong and have been horribly wrong in the past when it comes to looking at these players and thinking how they're going to do because we've got very little to go off right and similar to you I saw that promo where she was calling some of the heroes out saying oh you know that's not very hero-like and hero shouldn't be like this and she seemed a little bit self-righteous to me which I don't think

22:44 Is gonna translate that well with some of the players that she's saying that to you and it's also very experienced players who've played this game before who've gone very deep in the game they probably have some bonds coming into it makes me not feel too good about how she's gonna do I did see that she is someone that is an animal activist obviously does some great work so that's why she's a hero probably make people aware of you know the extinction of certain animals and trying to preserve them and things like that which is all great work but you've got to wonder if she's out there in the wild all this much doing these documentaries and things like that how is she going to be socially and again I'm saying this with very little information I could be wrong and Rogue if you do listen to this it's nothing personal we've got a couple of seconds of here and there to see footage of you and similar to all the other new players but I would not have thought that would be the first newbie player to get picked in this round so you've shocked me twice you've definitely shocked me twice here we've got Marcus saying Steve LOL he's giving me first boot Vibes I can see the villains willing to sacrifice them first I can see that as well I can see that Mark is even saying Rogue sneaky Mucky so maybe that's a good thing that's maybe a good thing exactly and Amanda I'm getting Ellie vibes from Rogue I thought Ellie was a great player and I thought yeah well I

24:04 Guess I can see it because Ali but was Ali that she wasn't that in people's faces about her discomfort with the player she was sort of told the camera saying these players are not worthy basically she didn't do it in front of them from memory yeah now I think like some of the stuff she was doing in front of gay but especially like trying to convince him that his Idol is expired in that he has to punishment literally on him I think like that kind of stuff she was a bit more in your face about but she never directly was saying that you're not worthy of being here like you're dumb well like I think Roe could yeah I feel I tell you what I feel so paranoid about the fact that you've gone the Opposites the complete opposite side to what I'm doing here this draft because I now have my number two female pick still on the board so I got my number one my number two female pick is still on the board and I've got the next pick so I'm gonna have to pick her like I've made the mistake in the past of second guessing myself and not going with my instinct and this one here it was definitely one where I was like should I go this high with her or not because they do have such a big Legacy to live up to but how could I not pick Nina twine like how can I not pick her at this point I mean I called it after the previous season when she got midi backed and I said she's probably gonna come back one day and I would like to see her in a hero's

25:25 Tribe to be the opposite of what her mother was in the game because she's great in the challenges she was heroic in those moments when she had to step up for her tribe but she did show that she's got the ability to play a Cutthroat sneaky game but she never really got the opportunity to execute it and lived in such a heroic way in her previous season now when you're the daughter of royalty and you've got to live up to that's a big thing to live up to and sometimes you may want to make big moves just for the sake of it to get out of The Shadow of Your Mother in the game but I do think that Nina's got a great hit on his shoulders she's played the game before I do think she would have socialized and I do think the fact that she's Sandra's daughter and she's playing with fans of the show like George and Hayley who have already picked those players are going to want to play with Nina to a certain degree they want to be a part of the Cool Kids Club they want to go over to America and hang out with the queen like who wouldn't want to do that so would you really vote the princess out immediately when she is good at challenges and when she's shown that she's loyal to the people that she says she's loyal to I don't think she's going anywhere soon so I have to pick her at this point monkey yeah well something that I did something nice about this Castle this cast does have a lot more fans playing than I think last time there was this many appearance was 2017.

26:39 You get out it's been a long time but most of these players like UB players aren't actually fans of the show which is really exciting because it means that there might be a lot more intense gameplay going on this season and I think Nina is like everyone's pre-season Winnipeg I think like real life is going to do extremely well and I think if we see it the other players are going to see it too so I can do this in making a price merch I don't think she's when I don't know if she's winning like I'd love for her to win it'd be amazing obviously to get the Winnipeg right the one thing that I still think will play in these Aussies back of the head do you really want an American to win an Aussie Survivor show I don't know like I mean I just feel like it's going to be not but then again you'd hope she gets to the end she plays a great game they give it to her right but I time will tell again Amanda here saying great pick Mucky how did you miss her we say my eyes are all for the sneaky players not the obvious players you know fair enough well we'll see how that strategy works out for you I've got the next pick which is going to be a guy I did pick my first guy and George and this is where I have to make a very tough decision because I'm going to be honest with you I've got two players in mind that are very similar for this spot

28:00 And it's about who do I go for first and where do I leave it but for me personally I'm going to stick with the strategy that I've got at this point and I am going to go for someone that I did have a number two coming into the season for the guys and go for Sean from the heroes so far three Heroes I didn't come in here thinking I'll have three Heroes but I was quite impressed by Sean Hansen's game in the first time he played and I know some people may say oh you know he got outplayed by David and now paid I played by Luke but I will say he was probably out of that Alliance the person who saw them coming and he was trying to warn his Alliance but his Alliance just got Bamboozled by the charm of those players and they're two of the greatest players both of them are a part of the Hall of Fame here on the nullify take for a bloody good reason the two best players probably from Australian Survivor in a lot of people's minds so he went up against some of the best didn't get out of that situation but I like what I saw in him in this first season he was a great leader at Camp which the heroes are going to look at someone who's going to take their leading role in the challenges he was great at the physical stuff that he did but he was also showing some chops in regards to being able to put an alliance together to have that social game and to strategize he was just surrounded by Johnny and Daisy I mean bad selection of two people to vote with or try and play this game with because they just didn't have that game scenes that he required but if

29:20 He could find a way to work with a Nina if he could become that Mark to Nina this season or you know the other person that she wanted to work with the whole season that I had Josh That season right if she could if he could become that to Nina he could go very far and do damage with her he could do damage with Haley I think he's in a very good spot they're not going to want to vote him out early and he's I just think he's socially really strong the one thing that counts against the Mucky is we just had Mark win so will they let the alpha guy win twice in a row that's the question what do you think of that pick well I think it's definitely a great perk and I think Sean actually outplayed to David Lindley especially with the henna vote as well you know he suspected that there could be a second idle and play to change the split from onto list it's true it's very true to Hannah yeah and that's what literally saved him from Kim provided out and I think once Sean had gone to you know like the condemners were basically stuffed because he was the one who's able to Rally everyone together so once you because with how I sort of play or think about Survivor you want to take out the social person not the Strategic leader but the one that keeps everyone together because once they're gone everyone else is just going to scatter like we saw that you know literally how is it like John and Daisy went up back to back after David you know and

30:42 And yeah so I think Sean's going to do that again he's going to make a good group around him I actually kind of see Sean Nina Haley flick being a type four and I reckon that's going to go all the way through the season I reckon yeah okay just before we get into your picks here you're going to pick a guy next I want to read a few comments here Tom says if you pick Jordy you'll win a lot of points for Joker professionals and the fingers I've already got Hayley and George and Nina so I felt like I had to go for someone I actually thought could win the game in this spot so I felt comfortable leaving those points on the table and who knows you know mucky's gone Rogue a few times pun intended you might leave him still on the table for me Amanda here says if Heroes goes on a winning streak then Sean is easily getting to the merge but he might go early merch just because he's getting the massive guy out fingers back now yeah I agree he's going to be his most dangerous part of the game like with any of these alpha males will be as soon as they hit the merch like who's the biggest challenge threat that we need to get out now we don't want another Mark Wales type of situation with someone getting to the end and winning so this is the second time playing so I hope that he's learned a bit from his first game but I saw enough promise that made me positive in regards to trying to pick him here and put my money behind him but enough stalling Mucky who is going to be your

32:02 Next guy pick well I'm gonna go with another pretending player Ashley making my third returning player and you know he's been future than two promos maybe one promo and I actually think it's going to do quite well this season so I'm going to go with Simon me all right what do you like about Simon I think he's coming in you know kind of looks like the goofy look on ah shots I got voted out with two idols and I think that people aren't gonna really see them coming because so much focus is going to be on George and Jordy and I think Simon's gonna be that Third Kind of alpha spearhead but I think out of those three Simon's potentially going to be the last one to get voted out I do think he is going to give photo pretty much again like at the exact same spot he got right out last night why are you picking these players but I'm but I think I think there's definitely a high chance so you could make the merge and that should go quite far I just think that you know assignment I think he's learned a lot as well Bill he also didn't really do anything wrong except for just played too hard too early and I think on the villains tribe if you're not playing hard you might actually get voted out early so I can differences Simon like making it quite a part of the

33:22 Season but I do think I mean it sort of comes to like the early merch that we're talking about you know that's why Sean kicking Target I think David Sean and Simon have got a lot to worry about between the 13th 14th spot you know kind of just before emerged then leading into marriage because I think that's when they're most at risk but out of all three of them I think the Simon's gonna be the one that can sort of Escape that sort of way but yeah let us know in the chat for everybody that's there what you think of mucky's Simon vote as he's starting to get in the right direction here with his picks do you guys reckon he's got a chance my thoughts on Simon right firstly awesome guy I've had the opportunity way back to speak to him once via DM and things like that when I was working on his Original season when he got on very engaging big fan of the show has watched it for many years this was a dream for him to go out there and play the game he goes out there he tries to play a very strategic game in the sense that he had an alliance that he started to form he finds all of these Idols gets voted out with two Idols which you know that's got to hurt but I like the fact that he went and he actually put that whole thing in a trophy case so he could look at it every day to remember the mistakes he's made you know so you know he's coming into the season wanting to redeem himself he's going to have that hunger I do think he's got some game in him but the big question mark

34:42 For me and I didn't have him low I had him as my fifth Choice overall for the guys which is still very high because it could go either way in those early rounds when people pick funny story I had him as my winner pick that season so another reason why I wouldn't have picked them for a winner this time because he didn't do me Justice on that season but you know I one of the problems I have for him is his reed the people that he thought was very close to him were all bamboozling him and he didn't read that couldn't find it out I've spoken to people who he spent an a tribe with that season as well General wood Chopper comes to mind he's been on the podcast a few times shout out to Gerald he should have been a hero this season Gerald said basically that Simon you know was very obvious in his gameplay everybody knew what he was doing from the start and that's why Shannon immediately was against them and we couldn't understand that because they said he was very transparent in what he was doing and they saw him find the first Idol and the second Idol and he wasn't very subtle so you know that's not good but if he learned from it he's got the makings of a great player you know so let's see what happens this season this could be the perfect season for him to come back and do extremely well and I for one would not be angry if he did because he's a nice guy he's a big fan and you can't fault the guy for trying in his first season yeah and to go back on Simon you know like I guess we can't kind of mock him for having bad read on Danny and Chelsea but like I'll call both

36:02 My partner and I were watching Francis Brawn together and I'm pretty sure we both agreed that it was really dumb for Danny and Chelsea to take him out then so I think if you're looking at a lot of perspective why would they take him out absolutely you know because if they go like one more round like without a merge the Daniel Chelsea had gone straight out it's a fair point well Danny told us why she did it she premeditated the move before she went out there she told her partner that she was going to get become friends with the biggest Alpha guy and then she was going to slit his throat before the merch so she premeditated that which is the sign of a bad player you don't go into the game because the player that you ended up blindsiding with Simon who was never going to turn on you so that was she did end up going Far That season but I think it was a bit of luck involved more than anything else but then again I don't want to take shots I've never been out there but I agree with you I didn't think at the time that it was a great move especially for Chelsea because I don't think she had a footing at all after that move I don't know where she fit into the hierarchy at all yeah she got through confessionals that season like I find it so funny her Chelsea's Medevac was explained to us through another player's confessional like we've got nothing from Chelsea through a little bit she would have been killing it in this draft with all those zero confessional weak points that you get every time you do that all right let's move on you've got the next female pick

37:22 And this is going to be your third female pick or Thursday night page so I've sort of been sitting on this pick for a while about whether or not to put her in or not but I'm worried that you potentially might take her so I'm going to go with mummy okay tell me what you like about mummy so when I first looked at remember you said there's a show that I watched last year called all of us I did and I'm getting on G5 so on G show is a character where she was quite she was quite a suicidal book and the zombie apocalypse happened just like nah stuff this I'm just going of course cows on everyone so she was like opening all the doors and stuff she was walking around creating so much chaos I'm getting kind of send vibes from let me hear I think she's gonna be someone who may not get a lot of screen time but when she does is because she's doing something quite explosive if that makes sense kind of like the other gay blood you know it's just going to pick up make some explosive moves but then she's going to go back down okay yeah and I'm let me reaching the final three am I am I good order predictions yeah so many for me is let me just have a quick look here she's the second highest newbie on my rankings that I've got for the females oh she's

38:43 Number six so I do rate a high for the newbies I do like what I'm seeing in the promo packages she does an interesting job being PR and Communications manager for a luxury car company which means that she's got to deal with very you know interesting personalities on a daily basis like George is not going to phase her because guess what people who buy luxury cars as George times 20 you know like so she's used to the type of you know personalities around her and she's got to navigate that on a daily basis and stroke their egos as they're buying vehicles or helping them and assisting them and doing those purchases so I do like that you know she gives me funny enough I had very Erica vibes from her though you know Erica Vibes in the scenes that you know she said that she is because obviously Erica I was a marketing manager who also worked in a male dominated industry and that's what she said she's used to being underestimated in a male dominated industry which is similar to what Erica was so I wonder if she's gonna you know lay like you said lay back let people make their move stroke their egos a little bit then just strike at the right time almost like Erica did you know so I do like it I like the fact that she's undercover also an amateur boxer so she does physical stuff she's probably gonna be good at balance you know I think she could be very good the one thing that I think could get her in trouble is that she is someone that is empathetic

40:03 To a lot of people's causes and she said that you know that villains are sometimes just misunderstood well if she thinks that George has misunderstood he's going to Slit her throat so just putting it out there you know if you play with a snake you're gonna get bit and that's the only issue that I see with her potentially but overall I think she's a pretty solid pick I definitely like that pick more than some of the pics you've done before this so good job thank you I'm glad I have your approval Chris Hey listen it's all gravy it's got in my mind it's going my way let's wait until the end of the season until I get absolutely taken to school by you because you took a few more risks than me just right the final three is coming memory Rogue sneaky Steve that's all I'm saying I'm gonna go into the next one here let's have a look at who's gonna be my next female pick now you know what it's weird for me because you've gone so off course you know like I think you may have forgotten your GPS before we started this whole thing and you're like somewhere in the dark or what's a GPS but I'm gonna continue to just go down the road of choosing some of the obvious

41:23 And I'm going to pick flick next you know I have to she's still on the board she got third place in the first season that she played and Branson's Brawn she's got some people with her in this tribe in regards to Haley who she worked very closely with she I don't think she'll go to the end with Haley again I would like to believe she's not dumb enough to do that but we are starting to get into the middle section here flick didn't really inspired me from a strategic standpoint when she played the first game I didn't think she was this great strategic player but one of the things that she was really good at was her social game and it's well known that a lot of people have said should she have made the final she would have won most likely against Haley or George because socially all the friends were on the jury and they all loved her and she was a great person she had to persevere she had sad news when her mother passed away you know and she was on the show so obviously she had to go through some adversity I'm very happy to see her back like if nothing else she's someone that I think will do well and the challenges potentially could give me some points there and I think she's a great personality she's a returning player I do think like you can see with my picks so far the returning players are going to mop the floor with the newbies which is the main reason I hate half and half casts because it's been proven over and over again you put newbies in with returning players it's the best season possible for a returning player to win they will mop the floor with these new

42:43 Players that's my call and that's why I'm going for flick in this spot what do you think of that pick yeah I like that I like the picture I completely agree with you I think Heroes vs villains as a perfect season for flick to come back for it you know I feel like she does truly represent a hero especially in France versus Branch who's an underdog for a long time the news about a mum and she chose to keep playing keep pushing through like that's probably one of the hardest things to ever deal with you know like knowing that your mum's passed away and you know you can't be there for your family your family can't be there for you so just never be an inspirational figure and I hope she goes power I really like that too and quite early on she was very strategic as well you know she was the swing right between Simon and Shannon's Alliance and you know she helped kids you know with their Idol and I think just as social connections it helps her make those strategic moves I think you know George and Hayley were always kind of just not the floor strategically but I think flick definitely could potentially do some damage strategically but it's just not as obvious because there's more social moves the Strategic moves of that kind of accent yeah 100 now this one next one here I've got to pick the next guy pick and at the moment it's between my number three and four pick so far and

44:03 I am struggling with this one because it is do I take a risk with someone that could flame out early but could go deep or do I take the sure bet to have points at the end and you know what the theme of my picks this one this whole picks so far for this for the season has been safe and we're gonna stick with that because I feel like last season I took too many risks against Jake and he mopped the floor with me so I'm gonna go for the person that I think will get further between the two that I've still got on the board considering a three and four and I'm gonna go for Sam Oh my he was my next perk I know and the thing was Sam the thing was Sam is that he annoyed the crap out of me in his first season right so I never in a million years thought I would pick him up because he was like the anti-person for what I like to see in Survivor which is chaos you know make a lot of moves and all those kind of things but I think he's got such a great reputation after that season where people know that he's loyal and he's stuck with both the flick of his season and Brooke until they blindsided him and sort of played him out of the game that I think that people will like Haley's not going to feel threatened by that I think Shane's gonna think he's a solid guy and I think people will gravitate towards him as probably almost like the Colby kind of the Season as that old school player from the first or second season coming back that's all

45:23 About loyalty and trustworthiness so I think that my pick with Amazon because he's going to make a lot of confessionals or things like that I just think he's going to be there very deep in the game and the other person that I had to pick with that you're probably going to go with or you might still take a different direction here is a person that I think is a higher risk between the two because that person could either dominate the season and have one of the best wins ever or they could flame out very quickly because I saw a lot of flaws in their game the first season with Sam I feel like the only flaw was that he was a bit Bland but then again Bland gameplay can still win you this game right Mucky yeah exactly and I think you know so when I first started watching Survivor it was actually Australian survive 2016. that was the first ever seasonal Survivor I've watched and back then you know I was a young kid I was 14 maybe like above 2015 and I was too much on the same bandwagon I was like yeah we don't like snakes we like made shop you know and I was like that with Colby by the way that's why that's why 100 why I compared him to Colby because Colby season two of Australian Outback people look at it now and they're like how could you have liked Colby well I was similar to you I was like a 10 year old 11 year old kid and I looked up to him as like my hero you know like the good old cowboy you know that does all the right things type of thing so I 100 get what you're saying it wasn't about the gameplay it was someone that you saw do good in the challenges and being you

46:44 Know a hero like he is in this season yeah and you know he did take massive risks you know he flipped on his Alliance to try to take out Nick like straight up you know like he didn't care yeah but it was something I cooked with him or not yeah he was The Snake That season you know everybody called him the snake I don't know what he did but you know and in their minds he was this bad guy for trying to play strategic yeah and yeah I did that quite like Sam you know actually the first time I ever got spoiled you know I actually specifically recalled this moment I was walking home from school and I was listening to just like random like the Survivor intro music and I found one for Trans Survivor 2016 and I started watching her and it was a boot order different video right where they play the intro it's just the boot order but I didn't realize that and so starting to clicked to me like hang on a minute these people just got voted out and it was just before the Brookline size I got spoiled that Brooke was getting out got support Sam's getting blood out and I was like wait Christy went how the hell does Christy went so I'm so glad I didn't get spoiled that season I don't I stay away from spoilers as best I as I can I don't want to get spoiled so I'm glad I stayed away from it because that went for Christy blew my mind by the end of that season I was just like what just happened what just happened but yeah like it's awesome that Sam's coming back like Tom sees here so glad Sam's coming back only season one

48:04 Player that still needs to return my bucket list Elle and Craig both really good players and I do want to see Lee get another opportunity as well because he had to leave you know under sad circumstances the previous time he played I feel like he was robbed off that second chance of having a proper second chance I'm surprised Lee wasn't in this season to be honest as a hero yeah I think it's difficult update potential of getting chosen but I think this was the thing I'm gonna what does Lee have to get from Survivor anymore you know like he kind of struggled keeping up with strategy and all-stars you know and I think it was sort of more like an earlier season maybe like season three season four he might have come back but I think definitely now the gameplay is really elevated and I think guys like him won't make it far anymore unfortunately fully so yeah so I would definitely like to see Lee come back but I'm not sure how well he would do like playing with like a George or like a hair that you know because I think the dangerous definitely spinning circles around him already so imagine Yeah by Jordan Haley so sorry I interrupted your train of thought was there anything else you wanted to say about Sam before we moved to you for the next guy pick not really I'm just I'm just excited to see to see Sam come back and I think he's going to do really well this is I think he's still going to have the same sort of hypocrisy about him who's going to criticize

49:24 People for Philippines regardless and but yeah but you know he's definitely like a entertaining heroic figure and I think it's going to go really far and I can actually see him I can kind of see the heroes tribe being broken up into two different ways where all the returning players are going to stick together with a few newbies and that's going to be the alliance across all the way forward or Sam's gonna spare hit the newbies to take out the returning players I think it could really go either way because I could never see a world where he targets Hayley straight off the bat so yeah okay let me just quickly acknowledge here mud saying yo I watch this every season all the way from brains vs brawn I'm coming back from work mud survivors got a great YouTube channel as well there's a lot of content for Australian Survivor puts videos on there please go check out my Survivor as well he's been a day one supporter of this channel in mud I appreciate you thank you for stopping by and listening to this as well for those that are in the channel right now please consider liking the video it'd be awesome if we could get 11 likes on the video while we've got 11 people here listening to the live consider subscribing as well and liking the video so that it helps us continue to grow this channel we really appreciate it all right over to you Mucky who is going to be your next guy pick oh next guy poke I'm going to continue on my villain

50:45 Bandwagon and I'm going to select Michael you know Michael's got it back to Michael's yo I mean by the way all right I got Michael on there for you okay Michael why are you backing your namesake Michael in the spot what are you seeing because you're on your own track at the moment here yeah it's I mean as a Brotherhood Michael's got to support Michaels you know no but I actually think Michael that's why Chris Underwood's the best winner of all time man yeah I think Michael's coming to really run this season I consume being the Ross of the Season you gotta wrestling transfers contenders you know Rossi was doing extremely well socially he was in pretty much every single Alliance you know people always trying to be trying to get Ross onto his side I say same thing about Michael I can kind of see him being like a goofy kind of not really outward villainous player like a George or sneaky Steve but I can see him kind of being like with a flip-flopper between the two different alliances and he's just connected socially with everyone yeah listen I had Michael as my 11th pick so it'll be like the second last pick for me for the season and it's just because again he's a newbie player coming in I don't know what to expect I don't even

52:05 Know if he's a fan of Survivor he did say he wanted to play Survivor since he wants to play survive for his mother who passed away in 2017 since he does love Survivor so maybe there is a little bit of a fan in him there he's gonna be you know one of his main opponents is George very early on and he's like I don't even know the guy and I don't like him and that's why I was like does he watch Survivor does he not know George is you know like it kind of sounded like he didn't maybe he's more of a U.S fan than a Australian Survivor fan being a journalist you know I just don't get much from him it's not a again someone's going to be 11 someone's going to be 12. I just didn't see much in him I don't have much to say in regards to thinking he's going to be great I do know he was a sports journalist so maybe he knows some of the sports players that are going to be playing you know like I think it was inner L though more so than AFL so I think there's a few AFL players this season so maybe it doesn't translate but I'm sure he knows of them in some capacity and being one of the older guys he's gonna have to find that land there's a few older guys now you know he's got sneaky Steve in there that's an older guy as well and then he's got Jerry on the other tribe that's an older guy as well so I mean it could be the way for you here I don't I don't feel confident that you're picking him this early is what I'm trying to tell you yeah I mean I think you know this would go the Game Changers route

53:26 Where all the big stars get voted out early and what happened listen there's just too much Firepower in some of these returning players just way too much Firepower for that to happen I just don't see it happening yeah but I think if that was to happen I think Michael could be one of people spearheading her and potentially making a big run this season fair enough fair enough well we'll have to see how it plays out Odette welcome to the live and also says this drive seems so lopsided this happened listen you've got to go back honest to God you've got to go back and listen to the beginning of this thing and work through it because literally all of my picks have fallen in my lap from one to three I think I've almost and I've got the number one female pick that I wanted my number two female pick and my number three yes for both I've got my number one two three four female and one two three for males so either I'm seeing it very differently to Mucky here and I'm on my own track or Mucky you're throwing it to me honestly I think you need to get on my Level Chris honestly like you think you're up here but really you're like down there you know honestly oh geez all right well tell us all why is Oracle who's gonna be the next

54:46 Female pick for you what are you seeing in regards to the females who's gonna do it for you this season it's actually between three females actually and so we're kind of in the same spot so I don't really know which ones to pick but for the sake of it because muscle theme has been you know quite chaos or stable in some other words I'm gonna go with problem with code of newbie players and there's Sarah all right Sarah Marshall who's in the villains try tell us what you like about Sarah honestly like I think out of all the Newbie players she's definitely got like the biggest umph about it you know like I was reading up about her how there is a theory that Ganesha was competing for Miss Universe Australia and she pushed her competition off like a bus Which broke that person's leg or something and obviously that bunch of cuts bruises and scrapes and then they'd lost a competition and she did an interview I was reading an article about this and it made me laugh so hard in the interview she denied it because if she was to push her off the bus she would have done a create a job at us so

56:06 Hard and I think I record the villain newbie she truly does represent villains even though she doesn't even though she says that she doesn't do it I think there's a lot of evidence here that does show that she that she did that so yeah out of probably all the newbies to represent Heroes business buildings she truly does represent villain she's like is there any video evidence yeah and I didn't do it's exactly and there's any CCTV footage I'd like to see it now did you hear about the fact that you could there's something like fake like you could do fake news and you could like you know have an AI computer generate my face on a different girl's body and get her to do it and then people are blaming me for it so you know technology is out there right now Mucky anything's possible it's definitely not me you know I like it you know never concede defeat and I like that I think she's got a certain Pizzazz about it I do like Sarah she was my overall third pick for the newbies right for the movie girls and seventh overall I think that she's a she's a beauty queen right we've had Sarah tiliki be like that be the social butterfly that she is do really well we had another Miss World I've got a name now come back also go very deep in her season so it's gonna be who which one of those two is she gonna be or is she going to be

57:26 Her own land and I feel like she's going to be her own lane she's got a little bit of a rugged Edge to her having played rugby growing up as well you wouldn't expect a beauty queen to be that physical sort of thing the physical stuff is gonna be an issue for her at all I do agree with you I feel like there's something about her that just gives her that little bit of an edge so I don't think this is a bad pick we're at that point now where the players are starting to thin out a little bit but I think it's a steal because I either would have gone with depending on where you would have voted I just one other newbie female above her that's my fifth Choice that's still on the board I could have picked her depending on where you were going to go so it's not a bad choice at all I did here says I'll Circle back when it's over Mucky don't throw to the host with a fist pump there I think that maybe it's the case so off you know I'm like the Shawnee in this situation I'm coming back for my third or fourth time playing this Fantasy Draft you know when Mucky is doing it for his very first time ever like Michael the season who you just picked you know you're in this but you're doing it for the first time yeah and I think Chris you know I think you're just like Simon before we go fight out with two Idols you know you think you're at the top everything's going smooth sailing but just you wait the first six quoted out it's going to be Haley George Nana Sean flick and Sam straight up listen the live the live audience is coming for you here they say I feel

58:46 Like he's mucking it up he's just mapped out the top seven exactly seven eleven David you know I think I think the top seven is gonna dominate straight up so I did here see it's also the two newbies who are the highest rated for me haven't been picked yet though newbie isn't wiping this let's be honest it's called Jerusalem I agree with you and I just said that earlier oh did that's why I don't like fans versus favorites that's why I don't like these half knife Seasons like I'm gonna watch it and enjoy it regardless but because you know that the returning players are just going to do so much better than the newbies but I will say this I did I haven't chosen any newbies yet I'm about to choose my first newbie so maybe that's one of your top two newbies let me know in the chat as soon as I do and I may pick my first newbie guys well let's see how good how it goes but I'm definitely picking my first newbie girl for the next one and the person that I'm going to be picking has been all over the promos I can't believe you haven't picked this person yet it's gonna be Anjali roll who's in the village tribe you know she's a former CNN broadcaster so obviously being a CNN broadcaster you know that these days if you work for CNN or fox or nsbn's in this BNC or whatever it's called You're the

1:00:06 You're the enemy of the people because you keep giving people fake news out there's always an agenda so definitely she's gonna be a villain this season she looks like she's not going to be intimidated by anyone but more importantly she's getting a lot of content she's someone that I feel like will connect well with George she could be Cara for George this season I just see those two working together and I like her coming into the season she's a strong woman George like strong woman around him as well when he's making these kind of decisions and I think you know she's gonna like the fact that he's authentic I heard that she played in The Real Housewives of Melbourne and she quit the show early because she said that people were creating fake drama in the house and that it was all just for reality TV and she didn't like the fakeness of it yes she didn't like the fakeness of that and she's going to be on a trip with George and Jordy so yeah so now I was just going to pick and jelly for meals between cecira and Angeli and one other person which I won't spoil in case you end up picking her but I think Angeli's gonna I think both her and Rogue have the potential to be the Chrissy of the Season where it's just a really fun character really goofy really funny and it's probably going to go quite far I do think though

1:01:26 There's a chance Angelic could be like an early voter I just come to get that Vibe which it could go out potentially quite early especially for like the villain stripe which I think is going to be can be extremely cut through but I can definitely see a chance where she does make it really far all right well it's over to me for the next pick this pick is my fourth overall because I've got my number one two and three guy and I just had someone mention him in the live as well he hasn't been picked as of yet and it's going to be Jordy I had to really think hard between Jordy and Sam for me at that point I was hoping he would come back to me if I did pick Sam and I went for the safer Choice Jordy to me is a massive risk coming into this season and for a few reasons one of the reasons is because what Sandy mentioned here I'm surprised that Jordy hasn't appeared in the promo so far where there hasn't been much content around him coming back that's never a good sign in Australian Survivor because they tend to tell you who the people are that you need to focus on he is I guess a little bit in the promo about going up against George potentially and seems to be driving that a little bit from his ink with Simon so that's either going to be very positive for Simon and him if they can get one over George or it's going to work out really badly for both of them and they're going to end up going early in the game I if I had to go between George who I

1:02:46 Think is the best strategic player yes I said it an Australian Survivor to ever play and not win the game I'm always going to back that player you know he's the best strategic player that's never won in my mind you know I'm not saying he's the most all-rounded player but strategy wise getting out of sticky situations I don't think there's anyone better so Geordie I think if he does not if he swings and he misses he's out early and I'm a little bit fearful of that and I also think that Jordy played for this opportunity his first time he went out there he played to be a showman he played to live it up for the cameras he didn't play a good game necessarily because he could have stuck with his Alliance and gone a lot deeper with his brother and he ended up overplaying his hand getting his brother voted out early That season so I like Jordy his great entertainment he's definitely going to give me a lot of confessional points even if he does go early so I do think he's absolute steal at this point on the draft pick still to pick him up but I don't know where he's going to go overall I'm not overly confident with him hence why I've picked him this late in the game but I mean have I really picked him later if he's my fourth choice you kind of gave him to me monkey well I was never gonna choose Geordie and my sort of thing is you know and more recent Seasons I think jordy's gone in the first week or the start of the second week so sort of how I do my boot order prediction I should look a lot at Australian Survivor 2017

1:04:07 That sort of format on where specific players went and especially with more recent seasons in the first episode there's been like a Twist or something to help people take out Mass applied you know he had Henry's Idol which he could have used to take out Dirty Harry you had Georgia's Advantage you had the idol of the tribal Podium but there was multiple Clues to it and I think jordy's either going to be the first player voted out because of the choice of the premiere or he's going to be like that Amy Sophie like the first time she got voted out kind of that sort of blind side where it's like he's like the first massive character to get Blindside and that sort of went alliances first start properly for me if that makes sense and yeah I think I think Jordan has gone pretty much there's I don't think there's a chance he makes it that far and that's not because I don't think he's a good player I really enjoyed in blood business water there's just a Regency thing you know 100 I recently thing is going to be on people's minds for sure he was exactly yeah didn't he didn't he have I don't think he's like I wouldn't go as far as saying he's exactly like chappies but I get what you're saying he's the biggest player probably returning from the previous season and I'm pretty sure confessional wise he must have been up there like it must have been between him and Mark ultimately for who had the most confessions in Sam That season I would assume it those three had all the confessions so

1:05:28 If George is like I want all the confessions this season he just cuts him immediately yeah and I think because I read bottle of talking tribal the after show by Channel 10 and George really doesn't like Jordan's game I did not I did not listen to after tribal at all so because one of the things that I do when I do podcast and recap about the shows I don't like to listen to other people's takes and opinions on it because I feel like it influences my own and it sucks because I used to be a fan of so many of these great podcasts that are out there I love talking about the show but it's sort of I can't listen to that because I'll have it in my mind and I'll probably let it take over my own thoughts you know I'd Rather Be On My Own Lane talking about the show and thinking in my own way but I wasn't aware that there was some sort of beef there or that he was saying things about Geordie because that will be a big reason why Jordy will go out there trying to take George out very early on it just it all makes sense right now it's you know it's all coming together all right let's go over to you for the next guy pick who is your next guy pick your fourth guy pick overall hmm well decisions you know well there's definitely quite a few to

1:06:48 Choose from we're getting at all the newbies now all the new guys live here in the game who stands out I might go for David's saharakis all right who says last time yep let's go with that I'm not going to pretend to know [Laughter] I think there's a lot of upside to David apparently he's been a fan of Survivor since 2002 whether that's the Australian Outback will win the first Australian Survivor season came out like before the reboot so yeah I did this I think David who could potentially be like a crop like a Matt Rogers like Croc hybrid kind of something in between and I can see him making it quite far because I think he uses like the likes of Sean and Sam maybe as more of a shield I don't think he might actually make it further than them so yeah listen I think Odette says he thinks that you did pronounce it right oh that's good to know because people get really antsy about these things Mucky you'll see in the comments at some point people are going to call us out for mispronouncing people's names I always get the worst of it when I talk about Survivor South Africa and I'm a South African and I still get the names wrong but listen

1:08:08 David X AFL player physically is going to do well I think he's gonna fit in pretty well with the boys with Shane and with the likes of Sam the big issue that he may face is that I think Shane and Sam will have more allies with current players that have played the game before where they might just be like fearful of that becoming a trial and the boys getting together and not wanting that to happen because it just happened in brain's vs Broad and that could be a Target on his back of those three guys get targeted he's got the least connection so it's the biggest likelihood that he's going to be the first person they'll come after but that's not his fault he's coming into a season in this situation I think he's a great guy looks like he's you know up for the task he's watched a lot of Survivor let's hope that you know he's he's got some great gameplay in mind coming into the game you know I didn't see much in regards to what he was going to do he just said just because he's a hero it won't prevent him from crossing the line you know and doing what's needed to win the game which is great I think that you know if you're a newbie player coming into the season and you're seen as a hero you should be like yeah it's just the title I haven't done anything in the game yet to be a hero or a villain so whatever I'll just play the game the way I want to play it so I think it's the right attitude that he's got coming into the game so again I think it's a very solid pick it would have been between him and one other person for me at this point I would have gone

1:09:29 Which one of these two do I pick so I think it's a good pick yeah all right who's next who's your next female pick female pick well since you stole Angelic for me I'm gonna pick my third pack and that is shiny Shawnee is this one here right actress yes from home and away and I've never seen a single episode of that but yeah I think China's a lot upside to it I think some people that are watching from the US what is home in a way it's like a soap drama like you know in America you've got Days of Our Lives a Bold and the Beautiful and all that kind of stuff it's something like that basically so but I believe she's currently living or has been living in Los Angeles okay so maybe I know something you don't anyways you go ahead why did you pick it and I'll tell you what I think of her so I mean because what I kind of look at soap operas I kind of see you know Coronation Street for other people you've got shortland Street which is a New Zealand strike for middle-aged people and home and away is more of a teenager show and I think the Shawnee being an actor like especially from like a show that's kind of more dedicated I feel like towards teenagers as well just gonna have a lot of that social life likability

1:10:49 Because a lot of characters are most sort of teenage soap operas are these like really likable people or really drama heavy people and I think from a Chinese character from what I've read was one of the more likable people in home and away and I can definitely see a building like you know quite strong bonds with people you know I went to a film school you know like I direct a few films and I've even acted in a lot of things myself and one thing about people I wouldn't tell people that before you're on the show Mucky you're giving away yeah you know yeah and there's like one thing about actors is that they are just really likable in general but also they have a bit of an ego about themselves as well because different the film industry especially here in New Zealand just so competitive that you've got to have a bit of an ego about yourself and you're also just got to be really likable because the producers have to pick you right so I can definitely see Shiny being really likable and if I'm just wanting to work with a customer to peer you know like kind of off to the fist fight you know Luke Janine like the majority really wanted to work with her and then there's the only other time which was close to getting but the first episode so I definitely think China's going quite deep and especially with acting is very physical sort of depending which

1:12:10 Roles you do it can be extremely physical especially if you work with Tom Cruise that's a experience well not if you're a voice actor so I mean it depends it depends on what you're doing you know but I get what you're saying I think she's not a bad pick at this stage in the game she did play in your next so I believe that's a movie like a slasher movie and also yes she's also known for an America for playing in Step Up movies step up I believe is like dancing movie she definitely has a dancer's physique so I'll tell you that she's looking after herself and I think that you're right I think she could be dangerous like actors actresses anything like that it's kind of like sales people don't trust them yeah vote them out early I've done a bit I've dabbled in acting when I used to be back in school did like musicals and different acting shows and stuff like that and then when I left school I was like yeah there's a thousand other people that are good at acting and singing I'm probably not going to pursue that let's go into the corporate world you know so I was the one that sort of very early on bowed out but I know what it's about I know that people can turn it on for the camera I know that people can turn it on for you to make you think that you're their best friend when you're not so I do think that she's going to be good at that I think she's going to be good at socializing

1:13:30 I didn't have too much to go for being a newbie coming into the show I just don't know how she's going to perform but I don't think it's a bad choice but getting sort of towards the tail end off our selections here as well and I do want to say Odette also said that was one of his top picks so it was one of the one of his top two picks for the Newbie so you he said Mucky you did well then oh thank you but if you think I do both there I feel like much more of my earlier picks actually much more better sneaky Steve's gone like further than shiny all right I've got I've got to make a choice here I've got to make a choice here and I think what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna go for the next week I'm gonna go for Liz on this one here for this paranov she's in the villains tribe previous pole Volta and Olympian athlete so I'm kind of putting a lot of faith in the fact that she maybe will do extremely well at that physical aspect and do good in challenges I don't know how she's going to do in regards to just her personality and confessionals and things like that but I for some other reason I feel like her and Shawnee and their villains tribe might gravitate towards each other I feel like there could be a good connection there and it's someone that could work with Shawnee really well in the game I think and I try to look up and why she's a villain I couldn't find a single thing in regards to why she's a villain to

1:14:50 Be honest with you so I don't know if you've got some more information there for us so with the let's just pole vault and she competed in the last Olympics in the 2021 Olympics and I believe chica she shouldn't make it through because when was her turn it started to rain and she slipped overed I believe on like one of her run-ups and because of that she couldn't actually make it through any further which really sucks that really sucks so I do think there's going to be one of more physical woman and I feel like they're picked up for the balloons because I think the villains are going to get decimated and like every challenge so I just feel like she's gonna have that smarky she's got like a snarky type of Personality almost similar to like a Shawnee like she says here that she does have a resting burst phase so that could be something that's a problem and I just feel like she's very self-aware and that she's gonna have a good social game I don't know I feel I feel pretty positive about her being in the Olympics that from the age of 18 that's pretty insane right like getting to that level off your off your sport so early on so you know she's going to be super competitive as well and I just wanted to get someone that I thought they're not going to get rid of her first you know what I mean like she's pretty much a shoe earned to stay around for the physical aspects and hopefully she's

1:16:10 She's like I said she's got a little bit of it looks like she's got a bit of a personality to her if you read through a buyer on Survivor fandom so these are the things that stood out to me I do need to pick the next guy I believe as well just one last thing on Liz you know it may be impressive that she's gone to the Olympics and say team but I've been going to the Olympics since I was six the Olympics I've walked into the fridge and back if you know what I mean so it's not a competition but geez mate well how would walking to the fridge every day help you when you're out of Survivor like what is the skill set you have learned from that will translate into the game of Survivor should the Australian Survivor producers pick you next season I mean it's all about developing that pace you know fast walking pace you know when you see an idol it's just like saying you know like a chunky milk in the fridge you really gotta pick up that pace you go on them in you've got the speed walk there and it's the hand and eye coordination as you reach out for the chalky milk at the back of the fridge to get it out exactly when you do those hand and eye coordination challenges exactly I've been training my whole life even before I still watching Survivor I've been training all right this next one now this person I think any other season if they played they were my first male

1:17:31 Newbie pick for a reason I think if this person played any other season and it wasn't a returning season they would do extremely well because they've got the makings I think of a great player and that's going to be Fraser it's my next play he's a villain because he's a real estate agent and he's a salesperson sales person sales people like Cody told us gotta watch out for those sales people honestly he looks like listen if you look at the guy online and you see his personality on Instagram and things like that I think he's quite a social guy I think he's got a great he's one of those he's not going to be there was a salesperson real estate person who played I think it was Matt and traitors for Australia there was just an absolute train wreck I don't think this guy is that I don't think he's gonna be a train wreck he seems to be aware you know of sort of what is physical capabilities are and he does look in shape he's a he's a small guy but he does like a lot of like long distance running and things like that so he looks in real good shape I think he's got a sharp mind and he would be in a season where you didn't have a George or a Haley or a Nina or any of these great big players Shawnee you know Simon whoever you want to call like all these big players coming back I think he could have been a very dominant player maybe he gets like a great Arc

1:18:51 Where he's trying to go up and upset the apple card and go against the returnee players I just feel very low on the returning players dominating the season but if they do dominate he's going to be a part of that and he's going to be one of the driving forces I think strategically I like what I'm seeing about him I don't know how big of a fan he is but there's something about him that just shouts to me he's got it yeah I actually happen with the first person can vote it out an a smart prediction I think interesting quite recently you know like men have been like the big targets because there seems to be like a weird stigma that you got to go check out the men doesn't look bigger threats you know which I heavily disagree are you saying that men are being targeted and Survivor unfairly Twitter Bucky I mean I think don't add me don't add me guys at Mucky if you're coming I've only got one follow on Twitter and that's Chris so please add me and tweet at me I do but yeah but I think I think Fraser is like a sneaky guy you know his like bringing sort of look at him you kind of think oh he's a bit untrusted with this but ski me you know so he's gonna have the social game mate you understand you're underestimating that smile telling you sneak sneaky Steve's kind of social game okay my hands and sound but I

1:20:11 Think I think with Fraser I think there's gonna be some kind of twist in the premiere that I think it's gonna screw out the salon and I think the person's going to be Fraser I think it's going to help the likes of George Simon and Shawnee like the more bigger players I think just Fraser's gonna get there yeah the shortest drawer and the premier twist so are you saying that half of the tribe is going to be safe episode one that sounds so I like Australians like that no it's going to be an immunity train and he's going to be the other one who doesn't find a model so All Right Moving On Moving on let's just have a quick look at what people are saying here I did says that's my other newbie top pick so I got one of them at least it was my top male pick as well Sandy says stop I'm remembering Matt and Traders are you and yes he is a train wreck LOL yeah listen he was a fun train wreck to watch but I found it fun I don't know some people found it cringy but I found it funny to watch him go down in that game all right have you seen Traders by the way monkey no I haven't I've heard a lot about it but I haven't actually gotten around to seeing it I really want to it's up there we need to talk you need to you need to watch Traders Au and Traders us I haven't seen the UK yet so at some point if I get some time I'll check the UK out as well

1:21:32 All right let's get into the next one who is going to be your next male pick I believe there is only three males yep three still on the board who are you going for well my favorite movie is Top Gun the OG 1986 you know I love my Top Gun I love my top gun Maverick so it makes sense I go for the pilot of the of the car so I'm going to go to Jerry there we go Jerry what did you like about Jerry he's a pilot what else could have for you I think come do you know when it comes to Heroes and Valencia Twitter how Sarah she really represents like the Newbie villains I feel like Jerry really represents like the heroes you know he was a he's a tourist pilot his plane had to go down and crash his plane and his co-pilot was stuck in the aircraft so he swam back to get his cope harder and to save his life and nothing that's a real awesome thing to do because I'm I've never personally been in the plane crash and I don't want to be don't want to be in a plane crash I assume that's extremely hard trying to get out of the plane let alone getting out and going Swimming World light back down hopping inside did I say I think what he does if you very heroic and I think he's gonna like there's two ways for Jerry I think he's like the like

1:22:52 The E.T where he kind of goes out quite early but it's like a real sad elimination or he's like a Tarzan and he just goes extremely far but not but I don't think it's going to make a big impact on the season I think there's someone there is there for a story not really for gameplay if that makes it yes it's funny you mentioned Tarzan because Tarzan is his previous favorite player to play the game he looks up to him he wants to play like Tarzan so it gives you kind of an idea as to what he's going to bring to the title so I agree with you not necessarily in the game I don't think if you had to look at likelihood of winning item at the bottom of my picks because I like picking the winner but I think he's an awesome guy obviously you know being very heroic and actually saving someone in real life that's pretty significant in itself he's got a couple of things that I think has helped him because he's 62 and he looks like he's still in pretty good shape and I think being a free climber free diver Spearfish Latin dancer you know he's done quite a few things in his life I think that will prepare him pretty well for Survivor now obviously age catches up to all of us one day we'll be there as well so it's yet to be seen if he can translate some of those skills into the game but I'm very interested to see what he brings and I'm hoping he's a great character like I want to see a great character that's 62 years old well I guess sneaky Steve could be that character right yeah absolutely like can you believe sneaky Steve

1:24:12 And Jerry's about the same age they don't look at hey you got Santa Claus on one side and sneaking Steve on the other you know so that's crazy that's absolutely crazy both still in good shape though coming into this game which is going to be very demanding but you've got the next female pick here as we get into the pointy end and this female pick will be the second last female pick for the season it's gonna leave me with an automatic pick for last pick but I will say this for those that are listening we've had I'll never forget the Survivor South Africa return Survivor South Africa community Island we did picks and I think Tyson was the last pick for Riley and nearly won that season so I mean anything could happen like I mean it's just crazy sometimes how wrong we get it but in this case I feel like yeah it could go either way because I feel like I've gone very predictable you've gone very unpredictable so if you know it's a lot of us is going to be right it's either going to be a very predictable season or a very unpredictable season lucky yeah and speaking of unpredictable I love to give my last female pick you know she's quite a strategic player you know she's really like Hands-On you know some would say she's pretty good at Rubik's Cubes some people

1:25:32 May say you know she's pretty good at poker which is why on like my last pick to be Paige thanks all right age yes your thought I was going to pick Jackie hey well guess what all right you've been Boozled me why did you pick I think Paige is a hustler I feel like sugar go either two ways I feel like she could go out you know like I think she's one of the players who could have been five dollars like at the Swap you know after the first swap vote which is left in the minority and then she's just an easy butt up next what you've got the drilled route where you know she kind of makes the merge I haven't listened to your interview with Gerald so all I know about him is just from my perception of watching the season Gerald was severely underedited his season from what I can tell just having spoken to him the guy's got a good Survivor brain on him he's actually really I think he's a decent player and I think that it's gonna play in his Advantage if he comes back he's not Daisy and he's not John isto and I have spoken to John admitted to me when we spoke that he didn't know what the hell he was doing so like I said Gerald's not there Gerald's a good I think he could be a good player but

1:26:52 Anyways you were saying about Paige yeah I think Paige too could be kind of like that mid merge boat where she's kind of you know just like the real solid number in her Alliance but she's someone where she doesn't have immunity because I call Gerald you know he'd flick with her idle you know they had a feeling that could either play it for image or for her so that's why they targeted Gerald I feel like she could potential guard same way so yeah it's quite a mixed match he said the out mid swap or out mid merch here yeah I listen I don't think I can add much to Paige I don't know if she is fully aware of the game she's coming into but again I may have when I sort of skim read through her biom I have missed that she is a big fan of the show and I apologize if she is I did like a one quote where she said that people who think that they're heroes are normally deer heads I do agree with the ick heads I do agree with that and if they think that they're not they're probably Heroes I do agree with that because it shows me that she probably loves humble people and not people that are full of themselves or self-righteous so it's going to be interesting to see how she gets along with the likes of like a Sam potentially in their tribe not that I'm saying Sam is like that but I think you know Sam does a lot of good stuff out in the world and might come

1:28:13 In with that hero type of Aura and she's be like nah mate you're full of yourself you know because there's the tall poppy syndrome when it comes to New Zealand and Australia but people if they do too much people think now we've got to cut them down you know yeah but anyways I don't know how Paige is going to go clearly she's been left out for quite a bit I'm very interested on your thoughts on Jackie and why you left her out so late obviously she's going to come to me automatically here in the spot I kind of know what I've done it but why have you not chosen to have Jackie and your team it's kind of mixed bag because you know when it comes to Jackie you know because I didn't re-watch season three but I you know kind of like there's a great YouTube channel called fantastic fools highly recommend it they're like a meme YouTube channel for Australian Survivor so I kind of watched them and Jackie just perceived as being untrustworthy and was almost voted out at every child I thought she was flooded out and they had no idea that she was even a poker player you know they thought she was like a Rubik's Cube person and so and so I think with just that I don't think that she would be an early bird with the amount of personalities going into the women's tribe but I'm just not sure where to put Jacko what to do with Jackie because I know that she's done a few podcasts with Shannon

1:29:33 Gus over the years but I'm not sure if she's like changed much like strategically going into the game or what really her the game players and yeah I've just sort of had other picks in front of her of them exits yeah Amanda he says who's the farmer lady from last season she reminds me of her obviously talking about Paige I don't remember the farmer lady from last season who was the farmer lady from last season was there farmer lady last season I think Daisy is like probably the only one I can sort of think of that are like in that lane but I do I do know that Paige kind of reminds me a little bit of there was a farmer lady who played with Marley and his Big Brother season for Australia which was the only Big Brother season I've ever watched Australia but Paige reminds me kind of her a little bit and she was a beast That season she was good reasonably good strategically but she was really good at Challengers and I was just like yeah that's farmer strength you know coming into those challenges so you never know Paige could be someone that can come in and do really well in challenges and stuff like that for me Jackie you kind of mentioned it I it took me a minute to like when the first time the cast came out I was like I thought she was a new player almost like I completely forgot who Jackie was because she went out so early in that first season and then I was like okay well maybe it didn't make that much of an impression on me the first time she played so because of that she wasn't my last player she was eighth overall

1:30:53 It just I kept picking the players above because you kept picking other players so I never got to her but you know obviously being a returnee player she's got the chance to come in gonna have a little bit of respect from players that have played before that may want to play with her in the game but like you said she's got that sneaky reputation of someone who wanted to play the very Cutthroat game and I think she was like maybe one of the few players who actually was willing to work with Russell in that season as well like she was actually willing to work with them and that's one of the reasons she fell out so I don't know how she's going to go this season I don't feel too confident that's kind of why she why she fell so low not at the bottom not as low as that you had her like clearly you had a number 12 but she was like eight for me on this on this list for that very reason so yeah I'll take her I'll take her in the spot you never know she's a returning player I think the returning players are going to do pretty well but I just don't feel as confident about her chances compared to the returning players that I had above her and then I think I've got two newbies females above her as well all right we're going to move on to the last mail pick for me of this one and I'm gonna go for someone when I looked at this cast you know it's a cast full of celebrities it's a cast full of fraternity players

1:32:14 And then in between all of that is a normal Aussie bloke by the name of Matt Sharp not a celebrity not a fancy person with millions of followers on Instagram thousands of followers or anything like that he's a lifeguard Mucky but maybe this ordinary guy can come in here and be the next Aussie you know the guy who wins all the challenges because he does look like he's in shape he's a big fan of the show he's been a part of this Australian Survivor fan page which Michelle is an admin and creator of she'll be on some of the Recaps with us he's been on that for three years which shows that he's been following it for quite a while he's one of us Mucky one of us one of us and he gets to play Australian Survivor so I've got a backup I've got it back Matt coming into this season I don't know much about him I do know that he's leaving his pregnant wife at home to go and win the money so it's gonna have to go in hard I hope he's not Bland I just hope he doesn't have a bland personality and I hope he's got a personality but he could be a sneaky undercover player that could be the Tyson of this season and sit at the end or go very deep into this game and do better than we expect yeah I think I think Matt could go two ways I think he could be

1:33:34 Like the like the Eric writing back I think nothing's going to give up individual music but I feel like it could be that the method then who does do quite well or maybe the Alex from blood vs water because Alex was a massive fan and even though I'm not saying Matt's gonna get a spinal injury but I can definitely see him going out to the sort of early like kind of early spot because he is a fan because I originally had Alex going out just after the swap kind of like the that sort of mid swap where people don't really know what they're doing they're sort of figuring out new tribes so yeah I think yeah I think it's gonna go two ways for from that he's either going to be like a fan favorite Underdog or he's going to go out quite early like listen being that he's the only fan like just normal bloke fan playing this game he's gonna be a favorite for a lot of people who are in The Online survivor community they want to shout for that because you know we've got someone in here in the Life saying Tom says I hope the next season they do less recruiting I want to play so badly and it breaks my freaking heart that Australian Survivor every single year does this they either bring in a whole bunch of attorney players like three or four of them and a bunch of celebrities to go and play the game now I know people have told me so many times in the Life yeah

1:34:54 This is how Australian TV Works they need fraternity plays for their ratings or not for any players celebrities for the ratings and so forth I've seen a lot of comments online and I feel like the mood is changing you know when they brought the challenge Australia on board they had all these celebrities in it and people were saying we're tired of seeing all this Liberties get celebrities off our reality TV screen we want to see normal people and then also the challenge is canceled in Australia now right well it went from I think 400 000 viewers to 200 000 to the last week it had like less than 70 000 viewers watching it like it just absolutely went down a cliff and yeah various reasons they had people come back that I think just the average Australian that wants to watch a competitive reality TV show didn't resonate with it for them they wanted to see their competitive reality TV stars which would have been amazing race or survival Big Brother stars from maybe they would have been better but I saw a lot of people say they just want normal people on the show and I agree like I just want to see everyday Australians get a chance because when you look at the South African product in comparison and you look at the casting and they get every day South Africans going out there and playing the game I just think that it makes for a more entertaining show and it makes for a higher level caliber player because it's true fans of the show going to playing it not someone that says that they're a fan for the sake of

1:36:14 It so the fans can get behind them but they've casually watched the few episodes you know I'm not saying that everybody in this season has done that from the newbies but Matt to me just comes across as like he's like he's one person that you would like to see a cast of Another 19 like him to see like what can That season be I'm here for it I agree with Tom I want Tom to be able to go play the game I want to hopefully at some point have an opportunity myself because I'm moving to Australia at some point in this year so who knows you know Tom you and I might be on there together you know but hey there's over to the last person here for the draft it's gonna be Benjamin Law and I will say Benjamin was not my last pick again you screwed it up with value for choosing he would have been my number 10. right at the bottom for me and the reason I didn't pick him was because Matt was number nine and I'll talk about that a little bit and what my thoughts are on him do you have any thoughts on Benjamin Law I know there's a radio host who Denny's reading a few a few novels you know and he's I think one of them's turned into a TV show like a soap opera or something and yeah I think I think it's going to go a couple ways for Benjamin I feel like you're gonna make a Deep Run being like a massive like a massive fan of the show there's already stated and

1:37:34 That I think it could be quite strategic which could even make him be an early vote out or someone who goes really far because I can see him working with the likes of hailing stuff but I can also see the targeting him because I think I think for Haley and stuff you know I think the best way the house is probably going to make it to the end of one again is if she does some kind of bottom grub strategy which gets a bunch of non-messifiers players like a David and Jerry to stick by her and just dominate the Swap and the murder gets to the very end I feel like Benjamin's someone who would recognize her and maybe try to turn the tables but yeah it's Spotify yeah Tom I've got you fam definitely no backstabbing from my end that would probably be my downfall like I don't know how I would like I'm one of those people like I'm a social butterfly I just like to meet people talk to different people that's why I do the podcast why I love interacting with the fans you know and I have so many people that I talk to about the Amazing Race you know I've got Michelle I speak to Jake about Survivor us speak to Chantal and Drew all the time about the challenge you know I speak to so many people I just love people so I feel like my downfall would be like how do

1:38:54 You know like backstab people when you're out there asylum's all fun until you're actually out there playing the game I think it's a lot harder than what people realize when you're like you know relying on these people for warmth at night and you're bonding with them for like hours and hours at a time you don't have a phone to distract you get to know people so much better on the island I think that would be my biggest fear Tom but you know we're good we're Gucci all right Ben for me you know again I agree with you on all of those things he's an author broadcaster journalist slash writer they called them the ultimate slashy this season as well because he does so many different things so that's someone that does a lot of different things he did create the TV show The Family Law which is it's a comedy show I believe and it's based on an Asian family moving to Australia so I've never seen it I assume it's really good and people know who he is over in Australia he does say he's a Survivor Super Fan so he's watched quite a bit and you know when you call yourself a super fan I would hope that he's seen all of the shows and all of the different iterations that there is of it I just don't know how he's going to fit in he's also a big social justice person supporter of lgbtq IA plus I forgot that right so you know how's that going to translate into the game I don't know I just don't know I think in the American show right

1:40:15 Now that would fit right in with a lot of the people that are playing the game I feel like Australia is a lot less political so I don't know how he's going to fit in with that type of you know outlook on it but you could go out there and do really well like I said didn't have them as my last pick but nothing specifically stood out for me as well on him I almost feel like they casted him to be the male way but there can only be one way in my heart because she's been on the podcast more than once and that's way Jim you know so I feel like they kind of looked at him and be like ah we've seen that character before on the show let's type cast them into the show as the male way on the season yeah absolutely Okay sandy here also says also with how Survivor Au edit these Seasons I feel bad for the newbies because they're gonna have basically zero screen time over people like George Jordi and Shawnee which is a great point and I do want to bring it to everybody's attention we have thought about this and that's why in the draft for anybody that gets zero confessionals in an episode anybody they get three points because it's Australian Survivor so nobody's going to walk away with zero points you actually get more points for no confessional than what you do for one confessional so it might be lopsider by the end of the season because if you get a confessional you get one point if you get zero confessionals

1:41:35 From one of these players you get two points if your team wins the challenge you get Five Points individual immunity wins will give you eight points making the merch Five Points successful Advantage play will give you a whopping 10 points fighting an advantage will give you five points votes against you would be minus one the runner-up gets 25 points for the season the winner gets 50 points and there is bonus categories as well for this draft the most confessionals for the season most individual immunity wins most advantages found least votes casted against them and most advantages play correctly all will give 25 points so quite a few different categories up there and this draft can go anyway it's surely didn't go the way that I expected it to go for the stream but we'll get it up there one more time guys team monkey and team Chris there they are let us know in the chat who do you think is taking this one home who do you feel confident about for this draft Mucky how does it feel to have completed your first draft here on the nullified Take Ah you know it's really exciting a bunch of people like I feel quite bad as well because it's just with such a landslide against you Chris honestly like I feel quite bad for you know it's like the first 12 voted out can be all your picks so yeah I'm really sorry I'll buy you a tissue box before

1:42:56 You head to Australia how am I ever going to survive this I've only got a total of one two three four non-returnee players I believe of My Tribe and yeah out of out of the 12 only got four non-returnies so that would mean that I've got eight returnees in My Tribe overall I really heavily leaned on that because I am that confident that the attorneys are going to mop the floor with the newbies sad to say I think it's going to be a predictable season I think that your season predictions would be a more exciting season Mucky because I'd be like how did this happen how did Haley George you know all these great fraternity players how did they just stuff it up this badly but I feel pretty confident and strong about mine I don't think there's any chance that we're getting to the end of this season with me not taking the crowd I feel very confident about this one but we'll see how it goes when the actual show starts and for everybody that is still here how it's going to work each week myself and Mucky sometimes will be joined by Kahuna sometimes we will be joined by Michelle we'll be talking about each week's worth of episodes so that's gonna happen as soon as the show goes live from that week onwards we'll be recapping the whole week's worth of action and what we will be doing is we'll talk about it more Loosely because there's three episodes and we'll talk about the biggest moments

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