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Australian Survivor vs World: The Leaked Cast & First

Podcast episode · 16 Sept 2024 · 2 hr 2 min

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0:12 [Music] [Music] [Music] a [Music] [Music] welcome back to the nullified T Channel on YouTube where we have got the T te takes for you in fact we've got the tea for you on Australian Survivor versus the world that is right it has been a crazy 24 hours where we've had some news drop on who's going to be on the next season for this Australian Survivor season versus the world there's been leaks Australian Survivor themselves has leaked some names I believe today as well I'd like to believe that we put some pressure on them by being the first to go out there to say we've got names should we drop it overwhelmingly over 100 people voted and

1:32 Said yes 87% of people said yes drop it before you can verify and then the biggest surprise of it all kuna and Mak is Tom we finally heard back from Tom after two months of Silence he's here he's hiding his cheekbones what are you hiding Tom tell us oh you know just well I'm actually I'm actually on the island at the moment you know I was so successful in brains vers braw that they brought me back for the season I'm we're actually doing the auction it's really early in the world worlds vers Australia season so we're doing an auction and I won the chance to talk to some loved ones and that's what this podcast is so they recreated my set you know my house in the background and yeah this is this is the Australia buff it looks suspiciously like the villains buff but yeah so you've got an hour to talk to loved ones and you chose Mony like kuna do we need to like reevaluate Tom like choices in life I mean we've been questioning his choices for a long time right like it's just more F the fire here I did not choose Mony I actually chose Gabe and chude well Gabe is here Gabe is in the live so you'll definitely get to talk to Gabe chude chud's here as well here we go baby chud's

2:52 Back in the live I will say this the live has been going off for a while a lot of people have been commenting and going nuts in the live for some Survivor news and I think this is the biggest thing that's happened in Survivor in a very long timey how excited are you to find out tonight who the rumor cast is for this upcoming season of Australian Survivor oh I'm so excited you know ever since yesterday where you dropped that the cheeky teas to me we said mcky I've got the castp I'm not going to tell you anything I was like what the hell man why you me that I have I've been spamming Chris like what on Earth why if you've given me this Duty too no but I've been doing some of my own cheeky note taking as well so I'm excited to see if I was right on some of the people who could who could potentially be casted or if I'm wrong you know maybe sneaky Steve and Rogue won't be representing Australia but I hope I'm proven right that they will well hope let's see what happens you know there's hopes in your last name maky hope but I don't know if it's going to be enough to get both of those people casted on the season let's say hello to a few people we've got Michelle in the live B 3331 we've got Jerome in the live we've got Gabe Jenny quite a few people kiwi is in the live tonight as well snuffed our good

4:12 Friend snuffed is in the live so a lot of familiar faces coming back for some of the news hello everyone we've got Dan all the way from the US very early saying good morning guys I set my alarm so let's go and I don't want to Jenny K I don't know if I said hello aen welcome to the live as well that's really that's really weird that E's here because she was in the auction with me she won a hamburger oh spoilers guys sorry so yeah I don't know how she's on here yeah only I won the reward so got Marcus we've got johann's pay we've got Dylan in the live lots of familiar faces coming back to the life but I want to talk about firstly I want to rip the bandid off maybe on a couple of names that people expected to play this season that's not going to feature this season and I'm going to drop four names that not playing this season from the US and I want to know from you guys what your thoughts are in regards to this there's going to be no Boston Rob there's going to be no Sandra Diaz twine no Johnny Fair Play and No Kelly Wentworth for this upcoming season for me personally hearing that fair play and Wentworth is not on the season was probably the biggest shock I would have been surprised if Boston Rob went to go play and I would have been surprised if Sandra came back to play again but how do you feel about the fact that we don't have any of those four names playing this season kuna we'll go with you

5:33 Look I don't mind like I don't I don't not I'm not married to the them like that I would have loved to have them on and it's not the same without them Boston Rob is obviously incredibly iconic but he's just done so much and so many things like I don't know that Australian Survivor will tempt him out of you know like it you know what I mean like it needs to be a little bit more on the line for someone like Boston Rob the rest of them I'm like yeah whatever man like Kelly Wentworth I know is's a big fan so I'm I am disappoint like I think she would have been really good on Australian Survivor and I think she loves Australian Survivor which makes a big difference but as far as fair play goes like I know he's very relevant because of House of Villains and he's got the podcast so he's in the social media world but I just feel like that was a long time ago man Johnny Fairplay is a long time ago and old doesn't need to be brought back for the like it's I don't see the benefit of a Johnny fair play over so many others they could tap on the shoulder you know yeah listen I personally think the fact that fair play is not on Kelly wentworth's not on maybe Survivor 50 maybe wentw Survivor 50 I could see them potentially still being in the running there we also have to take into consideration

6:53 That anyone that is playing this season most likely won't be in the running for 50 who knows they may play in the in season 50 but I've heard before that Jeff doesn't really like it when people go and play these other shows like I know famously those that have gone to play The Challenge Jeff's not like that in the past when survival players have sort of ventured onto other shows so I'm sort of wondering if these people that play this season if they were going to be out of the running for season 50 at least now for survivors South Africa I don't think any of you three really followed it very closely correct me if I'm wrong so I might react to it did you follow it m yeah no I was a big fan I mean I was a late fan right you know I Bene watched Philippines to immunity Island right before Return of the outcast so I watched Return of the outcast live but I was a light fan to surviv South Africa but I love Survivor South Africa yeah so Survivor South Africa a couple of names that you all know very well because they later names that played the game a lot of people may have thought they would see a PESA a mar and defos maybe someone like a chapie or aino on the season none of them are on the season none of them are on the season Marian and chapis were my top two locks yeah Rob benell only name I know there's one

8:13 There's one player that is rumored on this season and since you've kind of jumped the gun there kuna I might bring it up so Rob bentelli is rumored to be on the season coming up so really big name I think for those that are big fans of Survivor South Africa in my mind you know I would have loved to have seen chapis come and play this season but you know I have to say I feel like Rob belli is a more he's a more of an all-rounded player someone that won very convincingly in his own season in Survivor South Africa dominated his season and he is rumored to be on the world tribe the only Survivor South African player rumored to be in the world tribe so M thoughts on Rob bentelli being rumored to be on the season on this cast well I mean it's like how many American players have actually watched Survivor South Africa you get what I mean or how many like UK or New Zealand players have watched Sur South Africa so I think Rob could potentially do it again you know like I feel like if you've watched his season and you know how dangerous the sky is he would be like one of the first few out right but the fact that he may be on the dve where people don't really know how he played how he dominated and stuff he might actually make a pretty DEC and R especially with how physical Australian Survivor can be so I'm excited to see Rob

9:34 Now pretty well Rob is an allrounder right so he was a strategist he reminds me his game reminds me the most of Kim spreadin in her season that she won dominant ran away with it never anybody ever stood in his way of getting to the end and winning this thing maybe one player Nicole was very capable as well but he seemed to always be one step ahead and social likable threatened challenges I mean look at the biceps this guy has got the record for winning the most immunities in Survivor South Africa it's a tie between three different players that have wed I believe it's five immunities in one season one short of the record you know that's been held for a very long time so he's going to be a threat this season and like you said Mak I like his chances because I think he's going to be underestimated potentially if people like the players who do know him are the Australian players the Australian players will know who rob is because Survivor South Africa has been on the Australian TV show on 10 play for a long time so I think that there's a few people in that tribe that we will go into and I think we should start with the more the people that have been sort of rumored to be on the season that everybody kind of knows about because there has been links that went out today with some of these players and we'll probably talk about the first person here a bit of a favorite I believe of a lot of us like a lot of us really enjoy this player always

10:54 Brings the heat when he plays it's going to be George is coming back for another season three seasons it's going to be his third time coming back Tom you know what is your thoughts on you know he just dominated Heroes versus Villains he didn't have enough dominating two seasons he wants to come back and dominate The Best of the Best yeah look I'm really stuck to play with him this season he's a great player you know great meat Shield I can't see him going far again like surely they won't use the exact same strategy they used in Heroes and villains where they just like take him to the end and beat him because he's so easily beatable on a challenge so yeah like surely he's an early boot this time around yeah I think the same thing yeah I feel like if George was made like if the tribes were all mixed up you go I mean maybe he could have a chance but the fact is in a Australian tribe with other Str survival players I mean you know depending who else might be on this drive he's got one of the biggest Targets on his back and they've seen what he did with hero first vills everyone wanted to cut him but they're like no maybe next time made his way to the end again I feel like they're not going to make the same mistake this time so I just think George is a really early boot Guna thoughts

12:15 I'm going to go the opposite then just because you know to be contrarian to just to bring back the heat that we always have but I mean it certainly makes sense but if anyone can do it George can like he'll manipulate he'll spin his stories he'll do everything he can and he'll get further than he probably should that's exactly what happened in Heroes of villains we had the exact same conversation of that if anyone knows how to play this game George should be gone in the first Boot and then all of a sudden he's sitting there at the end right or close to the end and doing George stuff and I'm really hoping we get to see George be George especially against world class level players like it would be such a shame to know what he's capable of as far as entertainment goes and what he can do in this game strategically and have him go early would just suck so hard so I'm hoping at least you know optimistically that he can beat George again and manage to skate by because he can still get away with that not being a threat physically and also history says he's also not really a threat like you know for the jury like to get to get to the end there people won't give him the win so you know maybe he can use that but I hope he goes far I'm looking forward to him

13:35 I'm not convinced that he can't win if he gets to the end especially if he's playing with a bunch of players that are coming back that are quote unquote Legends of the game that respect the game George has been working in the offseason more than anybody else spending a lot of time in the US meeting Survivor us players where I do think like he's kind of probably making the right connections and probably did a lot of pregaming but I do think the one thing that will ultimately determine if George Goes deep in this game is the people that he's playing the game with and we will definitely I think one of the things that we will do because obviously we went over Rob really quickly and I'm going to bring a couple of comments up also for George is that we need to look at the tribe composition for both sides to kind of think how deep can these people go and who are the people that are coming with them are they vendettas against them and George has got a big Vendetta coming back into the season so I'm a little bit fearful for him playing this season having wronged someone that maybe we know loves to get revenge that may want to take a shot at him early in the game here but I want to bring a couple of comments up from jome first here saying Zulu Rob will need Nicole to shine there though don't forget pregaming alliances Syrian poverty won't allow him to go far without them getting a say so we haven't spoken of serrian povery so I'm not sure if their names are going to be revealed later on here maybe Jerome but

14:55 I hear you in regards to that johanes P is saying I'm happy Rob from South Africa is in I'm the same like listen if I only had one name to represent happy that it is Rob obviously Rob was the first ever South African Survivor player that I interviewed and I've stayed in touch with him since then he's a very just seems like a really genuine guy I can tell why he won it's the eyes man like you know doesn't matter if it's going to be S out there or anything if they look in those eyes like they're gonna they're going to keep him for a little bit longer he's you know some of the best players they've got that ability to squeak by and I do think that there is some room there and there's other big players that are going to need threats like Rob in the game hopefully they realize that he's a lion and not a Hena right giving you guys a little bit of a tip here as to what's going to come yeah it's not just the eyes though it's the eyes the buys and the tries that's what gets it's the same the same thing with me you know you know that's why put the shirt back on the jumper on it's I just need to cover those bad boys up yeah I was really distracted there I was really distracted there for a few seconds Tom thank you thank you I don't blame you I was voice I spoiled it with the with the guest there but the fact that Rob is and chappies is literally the only names I know from all of Survivor

16:16 South Africa it probably says a lot of his capabilities and what he's done the fact that just by reputation alone I know of him so I'm excited to see him he I didn't even know what he looked like I'm like that dude is freaking jacked man like that's perfect for a strange Survivor and if you say he mixes strategy along with the eyes you know Tom knows it works so I'm sure Rob's bring something special as well I think it's gonna be a lot of fun chared is asking us are these hypotheticals or are you guys 100% sure they're on for legal reasons this is hypotheticals Channel 10 this is hypotheticals that we're talking about here nchn wink did have it confirmed from a couple of different sources that came up with very similar names maybe one or two changes and then I also had the you know today seeing Channel 10 themselves bringing up a couple of players that were pretty accurate like six players have already been spoiled today which five of them were on the list that I was given with one maybe not on there and someone else being on there and we'll talk about all of that as we talk through this list but again hypothetical is 100% I put a poll up ask people do you want me to talk about this I'm not 100% verified on it and 87% of 103 people said yes please talk about it so here we are we're

17:36 Talking about some Survivor and if we're wrong we're wrong but we're happy to take that risk here talk a bit about Survivor and get excited I've not watched Survivor South Africa and I've not watched Survivor UK leading up to a show like Australia versus the world should I watch Survivor at least one of the Rob Seasons should I watch UK because I don't think I do both don't watch don't watch season go watch go watch Survivor South Africa island of Secrets go watch that island of Secrets maybe I'll do a rewatch like and do some commentary or something do some videos on it let see maybe when does the SE start I got some time in between right it's not like next week it's next year yeah it's like next year yeah it's next year it'll Bea rewatch or something or watch through yeah and watch you can watch Tom V and I recap the UK Survivor week to we episodes K those podcasts are probably more entertaining than the show itself so okay so I'm moving on I'm going to bring up the next person here guys there's a few people first to talk about 18 Castaways rumored for us to go through so the third Castaway here that we have coming back is shie again George and shy have been spoiled by Australian Survivor themselves

18:56 So we're pretty we're pretty guaranteed that these are definitely coming back we spoke about how is George going to do this season sh just got blindsided by him in a spectacular fashion and I just don't think Tom that shaie is the kind of girl that forgets like she's the one who came back in Heroes versus Villains who had something against Stevie and wanted to get sneaky Steve out of there very quickly do you think that she would have mended fences with George coming into this season or does she have a point to prove n the Spice Girls are definitely back together like they're I bet you they're going to work together I mean well yeah I know some on the season but yeah I bet you they're going to definitely work together hands down well I actually he disagree because let's not forgetting All Stars when she got voted out literally the next few episodes after that she got rid of Abby she got rid of Lydia and she got rid of John three people who are in on her you know getting voted out they were the next three to go right so I think Sha's coming back she'll maybe work with George but I think like revenge is definitely on her mind for him flipping on her so yeah Guna what's your thoughts I think Shy will do whatever shy needs to get further in the game and if that involves working with George because she's not seeing any other way she'll do it and if it means cutting

20:16 George she'll do that immediately as well I just think it depends so much on the makeup of the tribes and where she sees it lying because she doesn't tend to get on with like the meat header line type of thing or you know so it just depends where the numbers are and if she needs to pull in a George and work with George which she knows she can she just needs to pull that trigger first she'll do it so like she's so capable of finding she's like water she'll just into the whatever cracks and crevices need to be filled with and she'll do it like that's how she plays the game and it's amazing strategy through social engineering so she'll work with whatever she needs to work with yeah Brendan is saying shie is returning because inflation is still a and Lena saying she will get her revenge llin L saying no shny didn't want to get rid of Steve the other way around not enough I'm not sure how you pronounce your name but her is saying the same thing here Steve wanted sh out so I've got it the wrong way around there shny will most likely amend and be the social butterfly that she is if she plays this game again and I do think shie will probably go reasonably deep because that's what she does whenever she plays the game she's just very social very likable one of Australia's favorite players of

21:36 All time so very exciting to see her come back kind of surprised because she just had a baby and she is going straight out there to play the game maybe this is pointing towards the fact that it's rumored to be a shorter season I've heard conflicting information in regards to that with the cast being bigger I've heard that it may be more than 14 days that they're actually playing this game and that there is 18 names that are rumored to be on the season so it's hard to get 18 names on a 14-day season right I don't know how many vote offs they would have to do in 14 days to make that work so there's definitely no confirmation on how long the season's going to go yet just names that are being thrown out there and the possibility that it's potentially a longer season than 14 days but I don't expect it to be a season that is a full Australian Survivor season it will probably be a short inv verion so it may be 18 days or 21 days or something like that but it will be shorter surely than what a normal season would be so definitely happy to have her back Ellen is saying I just love that this is a theme love Australian Survivor taking those risks do you think this season will be air in the states and if it does if it's got us players sorry yeah so it does has it does have us players 100% us players will be on it and we will talk about that very soon I want to get out of the way some of the more known names that people know have been spoiled today just to confirm yes

22:56 That's similar to what I had on my list as well but I'll probably keep it moving if nobody else has gots on sh that they wanted to share but I think overall all of us are pretty excited to see shaie come back and play this game again so let me have a look and see who's someone else that we did see today mention this person here I think a lot of people kind of called it like we definitely called it on here on the podcast when we first started talking about who could potentially come back and especially with so many female Australian Survivor players potentially being out of the running a lot of them just having had babies and things like that we're getting Kirby on back-to-back Seasons kind of here because we haven't even seen Brin versus Brawn 2 and most of us were impressed by Kirby's game the whole season the person who was the most critical of her game was Tom so Tom how excited are you to see Kirby come back and play the game look I told my dad today that this season was happening and I said George shny and Kirby are all coming back and he said why to all of the above to annoy he hates of them so yeah it's going to be interesting but Kirby look if she gets voted out first it will be enjoyable I'll have a great time but if she stays longer than that no

24:16 No Kirby's fine I like her in the pre merge it's in the post merge when she got a bit insufferable to me at least muy thoughts no I just want to leave it at awkward silence after that for just a bit longer no so I like kby you know she takes a lot of like massive risks and stuff she's willing to change up the game whether they're smart moves or not I guess that does make it kind of exciting I did disagree with a lot of her moves but hey she made all the way to the final five and you know I haven't even been casted yet so I can't really say right so yeah I'm EXC I'm excited to see her play I she's a perfect to represent Australia yeah okay Kahuna you and I were the highest on Kirby's game last season when she played the game what's your thoughts on Kobe coming back to play again and represent Australian Survivor in this season I love Kobe so deserved like a rookie season like that is phenomenal and I'm excited to see what you can do second time round what you learned agree with maky that I don't think she a lot of like made mistakes like meta strategy wise but was able to overcome it with the way she socially and just had everyone just for some reason

25:36 In the cult of C everything sell and if she can that off on the international level that's what I'm really excited to see how she can come back knowing that she's not flying under with the Aussies anymore people will how really is at this game but what can she do against the do have that cuz I doubt a lot of them will know who she is by watching that as well she doesn't have George and three seasons like sh and stuff so they did she's exced see I don't know if you can hear me ker but your internet is playing up really bad you sound like a robot on that side and breaking in and out so maybe try and see if you can get your Internet fixed and jump back on jump out jump back on whatever you need to do on that side and my thoughts on Kirby coming back playing the game I'm ecstatic to see her come back play the game I was high on her game last season when she played I thought she was always a couple of steps ahead of Ferris throughout That season until the end when she ran out of people around her that she could play with but socially she was very strong talking to her cast after the season even hanging out with her cast after the season at a Survivor trivia party that we went to not that long ago everybody raved about Kirby's

26:57 Social game and how good of a social threat she was and that if she was to get to the to the end to the final she would have won the show and they said that the edit was very accurate the way that she played so I think someone like Kirby coming back she was greater challenges when she needed to be towards the end of the game she was entertaining in the confessionals and she had a strategic mind for the game I was excited about the fact that it was her first time playing Survivor not really being a fan of Survivor she showed an ability to adapt on the Fly and play the game which I think some of the best players sometimes do they're not necessarily your traditional fans they learn like Rob bentelli wasn't a fan before he played he learned on the show how to play the game similar to like a Kirby similar to like a Tony you know a lot of people like that they just have this different gear that they go into with they're Innovative with their gameplay and I think that Kirby could bring something Innovative to the game if she was to play in this season so I'm excited to see her back I'm really excited to see this happening and let's see what other people are saying here Jenny saying Kirby without Ferris with a sad face well Jenny I haven't confirmed if Ferris is not on the cast yet so who knows I might drop Ferris name next Lan is saying oh my God who does your dad like then he's got he's got difficult standards but I think it's tazan the last time we spoke Tom no not Australian tazan

28:17 But definitely American tazan what a legend that guy [Laughter] is no I can confirm Tarin from the US is not on the season the game is still a drift or a foot probably yeah they don't have enough money to get Taren to come and play the game over in Australia Gabe said Kirby has that magic social game chud is saying Kirby is like George but different as the both make very interesting power moves but George moves are actually strategic Gabe is saying con's internet's acting up G fist pumping in advance about the New Zealand Legends coming back saying NBN Ellen is saying I haven't watched the last season of australi I need to catch up it seems you do Ellen you do need to watch this last season it was a really good season gab saying Kirby was even gaming the challenges which is true and sincere is saying I love mature players like her that can vote out an ally of an enemy and then work with the Enemy and not take the game personal sincere I do agree with you 100% on that so let's move on and bring in just before we do yeah I just want to hear your thoughts what do you think's going to happen to Kirby this season do you reckon she could be an early boot because she's just like such a big

29:37 Recent name or do you reckon she can make it pretty far I think she can make it far I still think she could she could work her way in there and do reasonably well I could see her and George not getting along though like I see there being like potentially a bit of a rivalry and depending on who else is on the tribe I know that there are other players that probably will want to George a down as well she could find that middle ground where she could play with the other big faction that will be on this season for the Australian tribe which we'll talk about later on as more and more players get revealed okay so I want to move on to another name that has been spoiled online and has been spoiled by Australian Survivor I believe themselves as well and it's pretty crazy Tom but your girl s is on the season what is your thoughts on fields coming over to the Aussie franchise and playing for the world tribe I didn't know she was my girl that's great news so yeah sir I wow I can't imagine her performing in Australian challenges per se I don't know how watch out Tom watch out the fans are going to come for you after this you're walking on very than ni oh what wait people like Siri

30:57 No ah actually also my dad doesn't like Siri either yeah but I don't think Dad is your dad like your code word for when you don't like someone and you just blame your dad he's like guy no I love S I definitely like I feel like everyone like you know just goes crazy about Siria I wouldn't go crazy about her but like I definitely like her I just think she doesn't have a good chance on an Australian season like the fact that Sandra even was able to compete in some of those challenges I think so like who's worst in terms of challenges Sandra or sir that's the real question I want to ask think that they'll do you think that they'll amend the challenges though for this season Tom with potentially some of the legends that they've got coming over to play the game they're not like they're like from Old School Survivor coming into the season and somewhere you kind of feel like they'll almost have to like find a middle ground for both of these tribes to be able to go head to-head do you think that we may see a bit more puzzles than usual or you know something that changes for it to be a little bit more like Survivor us rather than full out Australian Survivor because I'm sure they don't want these players to come out here and just be absolutely Dunked On by the Australian surviv players Chris the only way they're going to make it work is if it's like

32:18 Rob you do all of this and S you stand there like that's the only way it's going to work like I mean like the Australian players are all like young they're all new players and they're fairly fit I mean like shie like she's got core for days Kirby's got like that really good strategy when it comes to maneuvering challenges and like if we're going to have a whole bunch of like you know geriatrics out there on the world tribe you know I think Australia is just gonna gon to clean them up mcky thoughts you were eag to jump in there and give your opinion about joining us here for this season yeah well I mean like Tom bring up a really good point where when it comes to challenges sir's not going to do that well unfortunately it does come to the challenges but she's proven I guess very similar to George where let's not forget in Game Changers she was going to be the first boot if that tribe had lost but you know through a lot of luck and through social gam just able to find her way around right and I think she could potentially do the same depending on how the tribe was all like mixed up with all the different I guess like statuses of players as well and yeah I think if there's one person on this world tribe who could make them impossible work it's sir so yeah

33:38 Yeah I think that sir could be potentially dangerous but I hear what both of you guys are saying I know this is not popular like Luckland's land is saying here is Tom trying to put a hit out on his dad we have to keep it a buck on the show it does depend who she's out there with and maybe she's got one or two allies that will keep her safe at the detriment of a world tribe if she's struggling on some of the Australian Survivor challenges which definitely is a couple of steps up when it comes to athleticism and physicality compared to what survivor us is known for these days so I hear where you guys are coming from however Kahuna if sh finds a foothold in this game how dangerous can she be knowing that she has played Traders recently and she was impressive on Traders she's played Big Brother recently and she was impressive on Big Brother she's still got the Strategic skills to be very dangerous in a Survivor season and with that social skills how big of a threat does she become on this season or is the fact that she is a big social threat and a big strategic threat but a challenge liability going to be the thing that's going to sink her because they're like well she's dangerous to go up against and she potentially could anchor us back on these early stages how do you think Sur will do if she was to play this season me are you on mute k

35:00 Oh let's act like we've been podcasting recently oh my goodness sir I think is in a in a it's she's either going to go early or go late and it's either like opposite ends of the spectrum right so if she's in a tribe where they are relying on physical capabilities and winning challenges Etc then yeah she might be very vulnerable but knowing that it's all rores all legends all strategic players that generally especially us and around the world they don't put as much emphasis on physical as we do in Australia they don't necessarily know what they're up against in those challenges and I think Chris is right there might be a toned down version of our challenges for this season so I think she could get by on that like she the physical capabilities is not going to be at the Forefront of their mind until maybe they start losing a few then she could sort of get into that especially if she does suck and actually drags them down but she's got the social game and the adaptability strategy to get around it just depends on how she's looked at by those other players as well from the physical side as well as from her own reputation and Status right she is a legend of the game so do they respect the legend and want to work with the legend and get a

36:20 Little bit Star Struck or do you want to take that Legend out early and that's the delicate balance she's going to be walking in and unfortunately for through for me I think through no fault of her own her game is going to be dictated by how the others sort of see her and want to deal with her whether they want to keep her around because they want to work with someone like Siri like it's kind of a dream status for Survivor players to be able to in Alliance with her or do they want to be that legendary status of taking her out early and it's not really going to be up to her unfortunately I think yeah totally I do want to point out that we have got a record amount of people watching us right now here on the nullify Tech Channel welcome to all8 of you that are watching us from Twitter X I should say Instagram and also YouTube if you want to take part of the conversation if you want us to bring some of your comments up unfortunately streamyard only brings up comments from YouTube so if you're commenting on Instagram or you're commenting on Twitter at this point or X I always get it confused we can't see it so jump on YouTube on the nullified T Channel and let us know your thoughts about this cast all we ask if you don't mind put a like on the video it'd be great if you want to subscribe and hear more news we talk about survival all the time we'd love for you to be a part of the TNT

37:40 Fam as we continue to grow the podcast here this next person honest to God when I saw this blew my mind like I did not think that we would see them on two reality TV shows in the same year so it is absolutely Bonkers to me to think that the King is returning to Survivor and returning to Australian Survivor Tom how insane is it that we've got the Goat coming back to play Survivor and playing the aussi version just after having finished playing traitors over in the US he's coming straight into this season I did not expect him to be doing two reality TV shows in the space of one year I didn't even notice him on the other tribe oh my goodness I'm playing I'm playing with Tony let's go yeah so honestly I hope he speaks llama I hope he I hope he finds an idol straight away you know just runs into the jungle I hope he just plays like he doesn't care because he's already he's already got King status can do whatever he wants but yeah definitely Keen to see him on there that's a little that's a little more my flavor you know yeah I mean at this stage in my opinion like I'm hoping he doesn't go completely nuts

39:01 Like he did in game changers and that there is like at least him trying to win this game or get to a m situation but he's playing with house money Mony coming in like even if he was to go first in this season we expect him to be voted out first like that is expected if anything beyond being voted out first is insane to think that they're willing to play with Tony out there who knows what he's going to do next he might try the Spy submarine you know like you don't know what is going to come up with he's a tricky player to keep on top of and potentially we are going to see him in the same tribe as s Fields who he's never played the game with Rob bentelli who's a pretty strong player those two players have already been revealed for the World season or tribe I should say how do you feel about Tony coming back and playing this game are you as shocked as I am well I think we should change the house money to Traders money but you know in all seriousness if you're came to know how he does on Traders check out podcast next year where I'll be recapping Traders America season 3 but anyways back on to Tony yeah I'm pretty excited for Tony to come back I know that you know off air Cris we've always chatted where I've always wanted like the best of the best from all the franchises to come back and play and Tony is like the best male American Survivor player like just

40:21 Without a doubt and while I would love to see him be really entertaining like I also do want to see do really well CU if he does conquer Australia and win this season no one can compare to him no one could be a two-time American Survivor player and a global Champion winner as well where you like outdone the best from around the world you get what I mean like if he's able to actually like make this happen then and I can confirm I can confirm that he will not be playing with Sarah asena so this is the first season ever that his cops areas Partners not playing the game with him so he won't have that built-in Alliance coming into the game he's not insulated in any ways kuna thoughts on the Mad Man Tony coming back and playing the game any season with Tony is a good season I'm the only downside of this the only possible bad thing is if you're right that this rules him out of 50 that would be a huge shame because obviously he deserves to be somewhere like season 50 and he deserves to be somewhere like Australia versus the world and what Mary was saying like I didn't even think about that before but to be a regular season winner to win winners at War and then to win

41:41 Against the entire planet like you know like well I guess it would be against the rest of the world because you're kind of going against your own tribe at one point at some point anyway so that would that it's really the only thing left off for Tony to tick off his resume you know what I mean like there's not much he can't really add much more nothing he does is going to add more nothing he does is going to take away from it he is the goat as far as us Survivor goes but adding this to the you know to feather in the cap or a notch on the bed post whatever you want to say I'm sure he's like salivating that idea of being like literally the only person to be able to win all different versions of the game is something he can be proud of and I know that his little weird brain would be like wanting that so bad he's probably making llama noises just thinking about it I'm excited see what he does man Michelle is saying remember Amazing Race Australia podcast on the nullified take live Wednesday evening make sure to tune in for that if you're in Australia and you're following Amazing Race it's the celebrity edition v and Michelle will be running it here on the channel yeah super excited I don't know if there's any much more that we can say about Tony people will definitely have a go at me because

43:01 I never sto loving the guy and have been a fanboy since day one and so happy to see him come back I don't care if he like I really hope he's not the first voted out but just to see him back in our screens that is going to be pretty insane and we have now gone through almost every single person I think that has been released or revealed at least online by Australian Survivor themselves this next person when I first got the castle League was not revealed by my source as someone that's going to play this game but has now since then I believe there's been Australian Survivor reality TV fan has brought this person up and said that they will be playing this season I have a different person to them but I will talk about both of them and that's going to be py pav was not on the list that was given to me but I believe that she potentially will be playing this season as well the Black Widow back out there with s Tom does this change your opinion about the potential for to maybe have some longevity in the game because she's got a very loyal Ally playing the game with her well just reference Chris that's my girl wait that's my girl okay but yeah like py so Keen to see her play I'm hoping she can make it far you know once

44:21 Again all these people with massive legacies it's so hard to imagine them going far but if everyone is that like everyone's super big that we've seen so far so it's like someone's going to make it to the end and just for reference I actually I do want sir to make it far I just don't see it happening but I can I can see p cutting sir for the good of her own game I can see between the two of them probably p is a more likely person to make it further and M also P similar to Tony has played in a different reality TV show that is just stopped filming I believe not that long ago Deal or No Deal Island season 2 we all know Deal or No Deal Island season 1 was phenomenal and I think that the second season will be another Banger especially with some of the people that are rumored to be on that show there are some players that she potentially has played with that I rumored to come back on the show as well so there may be some cross tribal alliances happening in the future but how do you feel about pav coming onto the Australian franchise and giving it a crack here we know physically she is slouch and strategically she is no slouch like Kahuna knows this when it comes to the challenge and seeing returning players I like putting my money onto someone that has got a chip on their back and that has been maybe a little bit humiliated the previous season and they're coming back with a vengeance

45:41 And they want to set the records straight pav had her worst showing probably on Survivor when she played on winners at War do you think she's got that chip on her shoulders coming into this season and that would make her make her even more dangerous playing this season potentially Buy well I mean just two interesting things to break up well not break up to bring up one of them on winners at War I mean I think we can all agree she kind of got screwed over really a lot of the old schoolers did and even on that swap tribe I believe it came out as well that y Nick wend Michelle all had a pregame Alliance as well so when you TR of five and four of them have a pregame Alliance that's pretty it's pretty rough like how do you really get out of that right and even with Traders I think the fact that she's done Traders before this I think Traders is perfect game to play just before you play Survivor something that Bailey like Bailey V and I ched about on Bailey's Deep dive was being a Survivor fan doesn't really work on Traders because Traders isn't about building alliances making way to the end it's about hunting down Traders right but if you're so good at like reading people reading the intentions and stuff and being able to build those strong social bonds where a lot of it is lowering your Threat Level that's perfect for the game with Survivor and I you know we've got Tony on the tribe we on the tribe we have Rob benell on the tribe these are all really

47:02 Huge names and even though p is one of the biggest Legends in American Survivor if you're surrounded by other humongous Legends as well I think she's going to be perfectly camouflag and I can see it definitely making the merge making a Deep Run in the season as well so I'm pretty high can I just point out gab's comment so like if I want to vote out all the women I'm a moner but votes out all the men and she's like the biggest hero in the universe is that fair okay I don't think I don't think that Gabe p is still stuck on playing the game that she played back in Micronesia like I don't think we should just because she had the Black Widow Alliance once feel like she's going to come out there and play the Black Widow game again because we all know how well the buddy system worked for Boston Rob when he tried to do that on winners of War at some point people catch on to your gameplay so I wouldn't necessarily say that's what she's going to do but Co I want to give you an opportunity to react to Poverty as well and the news of her coming back to play the game what's your thoughts on it she's a legend man I love I love py so much the fact that she again just proves immensely adaptable and capable in

48:22 In so many different environments she can play the I don't know if she'll still try like she hasn't played the you know the seductress kind of role for a long time but it's in her bag she's got strategy she's got social she's got it all and you're right and in a in any normal season pav is at the top of the list as a big threat but when you're on a season like this who knows where the threat Li so she could kind of manipulate things and I put a lot of money I like what Mikey said again just plugging away Traders man but I do think that playing a season like Traders playing another show just gives you that different view on things and another again just more adaptability and more Tools in your tool belt and different approaches and different ways to see things and especially in a game where Survivor can be very like copy paste and very repeatable people think that once you know the meta strategy you just use the same thing I'm going to play what I did like you said she probably won't play like Micronesia which is a really good thing because this is the world game like it's not like the us we all know Australia is very different to the US I'm going to assume that South Africa is very different I'm going to assume just based on the comments from you guys tonight that the UK

49:42 Probably play the game incredibly differently as well so all of that is going to cause chaos and for someone that has played different games different variations over Decades of the game it puts in a really good position yeah we had a comment earlier which I now have lost and apologies for whoever's asked that I think it may have been jinny K asked us who do we think between pav Tom and S would go the Deep sorry Tom Tony would go the deepest Tom would not go deep in the game but you know Tony would go the deepest into the game and I do believe that out of that group like I'd love for it to be Tony would be the one that I would be shouting for all the way but I kind of have a feeling like sir is going to surprise us this season I don't know why I feel like Siri is going to potentially go deeper than both p and Tony on the season P has got such a reputation about her that even now people are still classifying people as Ah that's the next py person in the game we should watch out for them right so I just think that people are so afraid of that Legacy that it could be similar to Tony they don't want to deal with that or they are intimidated by it I will say one player that would play well with PTY we spoke about Robin tell needing a Nicole to play with him this season Nicole from his season was like a p like

51:02 Figure in that season so I can see Rob Andy and P potentially playing really well and him finding a home there and feeling very comfortable to play with a very strong strategic female in the game like Nicole was on his season so maybe that is a place that he can find someone but happy for pavy to come back I do want to very quickly mention the person who I had instead of poverty because when I first said that I was to drop the cast I said I'm dropping it regardless on if it's verified or not and I've had people now tell me that pover is verified because apparently Channel 10 has brought her name up but we don't know if some of these other players aren't in contention and there was another us Survivor player that when I first saw this players's name I thought this was random to begin with so it makes sense that PTY is the more likely one to be on the season out of the two of them but the name that I was given as someone that I think would have had Tom very excited it was Brenda low that was also rumored on the cast for this season so Tom that would have had you I know you're a fan you would have been excited Brenda was on the season fireworks how does he do it I still don't know yeah W I would have loved to see Bren I mean imagine us on the same season like she's out there making dawn like take her teeth out like and I would be doing something equally as bad to like one of the Australians

52:22 You know like you know just you know giving George like noogies and like wet IES you know just bullying you be great we'd be a perfect pair yeah there's a lot of people in the live that is shocked by this and saying Justice for Nicaragua like Brenda as well so and who knows she may still be on there but it's sounding less likely now that pav has replaced her name on The Cast and who knows just putting it out there that was the name that I had for full transparency I'm not going to change it because news is just suddenly changed let's go back to the A Australian side of things we've moved to the world quite a bit we've gotten excited about some of these us players that are potentially coming back and playing the game I think it is time for us to drop some names on the Australian side and these are names that have not yet been leaked by Channel 10 themselves so again we're speculating you know we're not sure 100% of they on but it has been verified by more than one source at this stage so I think there's a good chance and we like to speculate about things so the first person that is going to come back Kahuna is none other than Janine the Godmother Kahuna coming back from Champions versus contenders to where she had a very big season what do you think about the rumors of Janine potentially playing this game again I'm

53:42 Surprised actually like I know she was good at I liked her I thought she was really good at the season I'm just surprised you can get like an incredibly successful multi-millionaire running multiple businesses to take time out of a incredibly busy schedule to do a show like this when it's so hard and physical like if I was as rich as Janine was I'd never do physical labor in my life so the fact that she does it is pretty impressive I'd be like yeah you go do it for me but I think that's cool what that says to me is she obviously plays it for just the most purest Love of the Game like she's not obvously needing any kind of financial reward for a show like this but the fact that she can take time out to do it I think it's pretty impressive I don't know if she'll win I don't think she can win but I'm happy that she's back I think I think she brings a lot to any season she's on yeah maky thoughts on the Godmother coming back to play this game you know I'm a big Pier fan but a lot of people believed that Janine was the one who really orchestrated everything that season and Pier was sort of the in command who ultimately then won the game when Janine was taken out are you excited to see Janine play this game

55:03 That's not my fault by the way I like P yeah I'm shocked really like Janine you go me like Janine was never someone who I actually really thought about who would come back and play because I know she turned down all stars and it was always sort of a question like why would Janine come back and play she's already so successful and stuff I guess now they bring it out yeah I guess if you to tell her oh it's a World Championship then yeah I consider see her coming back and playing and yeah I'm excited she played really well I do think though like let's not forget she was targeted very early on as been one of the more guess weaker players in the Champions tribe even though she was Target about all the oldies and stuff it's been wicker than them but like I can see Janine being an early boot though but can also making it really far once again because obviously she is very smart very intelligent very social as well and I mean maybe if she's out there with someone like Luke or David which hopefully they'll be on then yeah maybe they'll be like a strong Joo or Trio Tom I'm really happy to see that I think like it's refreshing to see a few players like who have only played once with the exception of like Titans versus Rebels players because obviously they haven't had another opportunity but like I think Janine's one of the

56:23 Best options out of onetime players in Australian Survivor and I think yeah good on her for you know I'd be the same you know obviously you know Chris you pay me top dollar to be on the show way more than Kahuna and mcky so I that's why I can only afford you on some appearances not all people always ask me where's Tom at why is Tom not on every single show and I'm like you know the entry fee is high yeah exactly and that's why there's so many people watching tonight but yeah I'm good on her for coming back and I hope she does as well and yes Gabe she's a woman and I'm going for her crazy isn't it I'm excited to see Janine back I've said many of times that Champions versus contenders 2 is probably my favorite season of Australian Survivor of all time and she was a part of that cast that I really just enjoyed seeing play the game I agree with you Tom there's a couple of players that are now going into their third or fourth how many times has sh played this game like you know there four times so some people have just come back season after season and then there's a few people we haven't seen she's one of those and obviously very popular I didn't think that it would be possible for Janine to play this season because of the fact that she was recently still on channel seven I believe doing things on there so I thought there would be like a

57:43 Conflict and contract or something like that but she's going to be on channel 10 she's going to come do Australian Survivor so I am I'm really excited to see how she does this season gab saying you like her and she's not even a model tell if sarahi was on oh I'd be celebrating that's for sure I may I may disappoint or excite you later on when we're talking about it let's have a look a lot of people were asking for David the golden go God we will talk about that and see if he is on the season sand saying iide probably George David and Luke so excited for the Godmother Gabe saying that it's cool to see her return let's see what other people are saying here ker she already did it once so she can do it again you've got to believe is what chude is saying with Janine coming back sinia doesn't know her sinia go watch Champions versus contenders to that is her only season that she's done in Australian Survivor it was a good season in my mind at least gab saying it's a miracle that you like somebody else ah channel nine with Gordon Ramsey thank you snu snuff is actually the person Riley's the person who I cover Champions versus contenders to worth so he knows my love for that season as well but I do want to bring up another person here from the world tribe we're going to go back and forth between world and then also

59:03 Back again to this one here and a few people I think will be shocked confused similar to myself and not know who this person is but we do have someone coming up from Survivor Finland in Norway we've got someone by the name of Tommy Manon who's going to be in the world tribe he was the he was the runnerup for Survivor Finland playing this game fin gosh Chris man English Tommy let me just change my name thing oh my gosh yeah so I don't know if anybody knows anything about Survivor Finland I kind of feel in some ways I feel sorry for this person cuz they're coming in their first language is not English they're the only person from their franchise coming in to play this game they're going up against Legends of the US South Africa like I just feel like this person may be like a little bit of a fish out of water Kahuna we see this happening quite a lot on the challenge where there are Global people like we've seen Survivor turkey rep being represented Survivor Romania being represented on the challenge and they sometimes struggle with the language barrier and the cultural differences to fit in on those seasons do you think that we could read into that a little bit and maybe this is something

1:00:24 Where Tommy's going to struggle to find his feet if he was to play this game because I feel like you know could we have used this opportunity to get another Survivor South African player in for instance why did we go to Survivor Finland for this pick because we're versing the world we have to play the world look yeah like it I think people will automatically go to what they are familiar with and the fact that he's not only not from like d price like this is also a season with years of connections and you know social going back we talk about that on the challenge that there's relationships built over years and even if it's not from Direct on Seasons together there's at least a fraternity of us Survivor where they've been in the same Social Circles probably been in the same events and have a reputational relationship with each other and to not have that you're at a disadvantage automatically right numbers wise and then to not be able to even have English as your first language and have the cultural differences along with that it's a it's a tough Hill to climb the only Advantage I could see or the only thing that I could see working in his favor is that you're such a non-factor as a threat

1:01:44 That you may be slid by because they're like really like I'm not worried about him we can take care of him later or he's such a non-factor that he can be used as a number pretty easily I have no idea how he'll play how he'll adapt how he do any of that but there are certainly paths open to a complete non- entity in a game where there's so many big names yeah let's see what the crowd is saying about it a saying I'm afraid it could be an easy first boot Michelle is saying he may have an advantage that people may not be threatened by him Jenny is saying I feel bad because there may be an easy scapegoat to go home early for big hitters to last longer bloody money is saying having burnard Emy emu compete on Survivor Australia would be funny Chris gar lost their yeah would be interesting to see like if they were on it would have I would have actually been more happy seeing one of them on none of them are being rumored onto the season but at least they would have been known entities to myself and Kun they were on jlp talking like jokes imagine jlp dropping his jokes and the little being in Turbo just not like having no sense of humor whatsoever not getting it at all that' be amazing wanting to fight yeah so a lot of a lot of people here saying potentially could be

1:03:04 An early bir johannas is saying lot of fins working in essay and I think he will speak English yeah so hopefully he's like listen we're underestimating the guy we don't know him we can't speak of anything he did he went deep he went deep in his season so who knows what he is capable of and surely there's a reason that they did go this way if he is on the season but I wanted to drop that name as well so we know who another person is that's going to be on the World season someone that is not so well known to us but let's go back to Australia and this one here I think a lot of fans will be happy about seeing this player play it's crazy to think that if there's a swap we could see a competition of who can Bolt the best spy Shack out there Luke Toki is rumored be on the show yo let's go let's go oh I'm so excited mcky talk to us made big reaction from you there probably the biggest reaction so far you know are you happy to give up your boss belt to the big boss Luke Toki when he's on the season well I mean I guess some Survivor trivia for everyone so australi Survivor 2017 and Luke especially was the reason the sole reason I got into Survivor

1:04:25 Like just like everything Luke was doing I was like this guy's nuts he's so funny he's shouting oi how do you spell this person's name at the first Tri like bro like I just love Luke so much and obviously it was devastating to see how he got F out at the end of champion versus contenders number two and I have a very funny memory where I was because I used to work at the checkouts at packin and this lady had come through and her and her mates were like in tears and stuff talking about Survivor and I was like let me guess you just saw the Luke episode right and they were like yeah and I was like oh so sad like yeah I love Luke so much and he obviously dominated Big Brother as well like he just ran through that whole season because he knows the social game and he weaponizes the social game as well like there are not many I guess players out there probably like a c if we get a Luke and ser final too just their stories alone is just gonna be insane right and so because obviously they both got that heroic story he's playing for his kids with like autism C fibrosis she's the lady who got up off the couch to give the show a go and now they're both social strategic masterminds so yeah I'm so excited to see Luke back one of the biggest Legends in Australian Survivor history and I mean this I forget people like made a go funme

1:05:45 And didn't he raise more than what Pier got yeah he's the r he's the rer of Australian Survivor the people's champ you know the person that people wanted to give their money away for and I just want to bring up Luckland's land's quote or I guess comment here saying he has been on socials so has George yeah right I'll just put that out there's a lot of ways that you can hide the fact that you're playing this season like for instance if his wife's on there posting things on his behalf George apparently ran some sort of marathon on the weekend and we know he wasn't there so you know a lot of these players are being very crafty right now I'm pretty confident that Luke is someone that will be out there playing this season and knowing that he's playing this season Tommy you know Luke heading up against George will the record be set straight here because George is saying that he's the king but before King George there was King Luke where do you think this one's going to go I think it's going to be like the flipping nerd in the school playground who thinks you know he watches one superhero movie and he thinks he can he can beat up the bully it's not it's not going to be pretty George is going to get whooped yeah absolutely I agree I actually think that people like listen George is a good player

1:07:06 Let's give him his roses but when he came back as roses his flowers when he came back and played hero as his villains he played it against a bunch of new players that have never played the game before Luke's not going to be that easily manipulated by George in the game and he's never liked playing for someone else on their agenda if you think about Mark Wells in the first season when he wanted to run the game Luke went and pulled the carpet from underneath him and I think that same thing is going to happen this season Luke and Janine will have some connections in the season coming into it and we'll talk about some of those connections in the near future but I think that this is going to be a very strong faction and they're not bringing Luke back to set him up for failure I had someone earlier say that he'll be a first boot and johanes I just don't see it I do not see Luke being a first boot if the rest of the cast that is coming on is true I just think there's too much room for him to play Within that unless he gets swap screwed into a tribe he's pretty solid coming into the season yeah Lucas what Tony is for me on Survivor us Lucas for me on Australian Survivor even though he's never won he's my favorite player kuna I'm so excited to see this guy play the game again and you want people you want to root for playing this game and there's like maky said there's no better story than Luke's story playing this game Luke man he is he's the people's champ man I didn't I didn't know Luke was on

1:08:26 I saw a few of those earlier names just quickly scrolling through Facebook but holy crap I'm excited man like I'm just looking at the names as they as they're piling up and when you're talking about George is undoubtedly a heavyweight like in any ring he steps into but the unfortunate thing is there's so many like he can't throw his weight around he can't be the big Alpha in a game where everyone are just complete and utter assassins the same goes for Luke as well though right like you're saying he's going to dog walk George it's not like everyone is vulnerable and everyone is dangerous when you have everyone being incredibly good in this game so I can't like I don't I can't say it's one over the other super easily but I'm excited to see the fireworks to see what actually comes out because I do think Luke will Target George and I think if George is smart which everyone knows he is he has to recognize that Luke will be coming for him and he'll probably do the same unless he tries to spin Luke over to his side and Luke will play him off that'll pretend that it's working but it won't Luke's got his eyes on George for sure he knows what he's doing and I said before about

1:09:46 Someone like C and py playing Traders playing other games Luke's got that as well he's played Traders Mony he's brother yeah he's play big brother he's one big brother he's got that versatile adaptability good at challenges good at Social good at strategy he's an allrounder that is also incredibly likable and very lovable for the people at home so if anything happens in the season we're lucky we're gonna be we're runting for a good time agree I agree and I know a lot of people are saying George Will idle him out George will beat him and all that kind of stuff and regardless it's going to be a fun season because we want to see this is what maky said we want to see the like even though I am team Luke like if George takes him out all credit goes to George right and we will all sit here and say wow George has cemented his legacy now he is proven without a doubt that he is superior to Luke in this game but until that happens I'm putting my chips in Luke's corner for now and saying that he's most likely to come out on top I do have a comment here saying that Luke played against a bunch of new players on Champions versus contenders to Chris but can you really compare Janine Harry piia Abby like that cast can you really like the heroes verus villains cast were just not at the same

1:11:06 Level David gut like I mean this is not apples and apples this is like two very different casts that played the game I just felt like in that season and maybe George was that good he made the rest of the players look very average and it could be true as well there could be two truths to this I just feel like it's a very different cast mark welcome to the so yes people this is Mark marks not on the season unfortunately saying for Luke just need someone to translate him for the yangs totally true they're gonna have to have some subtitles in the bottom like they used to have for big Tommy well something as well you know George he's obviously got a lot of American Connections but Luke's got a lot of South African connections I know he's like home with Chap and son to me and I feel like he's always know yeah exactly so I feel like if a swap or merge comes around you know him and Rob could be a good job that could be dangerous and Luke's Luke is a fan of the king he's a fan of Tony bluos the reason he did the spice check was because he was a fan of Tony so if Tony and Luke ends up on a tribe together like that is what I want to see I want to see who can build the better spy Shack Tommy like do you think Tom that we may see them working together on a ladder to get some of that fruits together out there on the island like how crazy will it be to have both of them on the same tribe

1:12:26 Can we like Manifest this my dream scenario would be I don't think she would be in the season but Angelina as well and Luke and Tony build a ladder for Angelina to climb and it's only going to be like a meter high but she's going to say it's like 50 feet in the air and you know she was she was rock climbing without a rope you know up to get this Idol and she almost died guys oh my goodness that' be I'd love to see that okay I'm going to bring someone else up right and this person is from Survivor cubec playing this season for the world tribe Cassandra bash I don't know I'm butchering it I know we've got Jerome here in the live that maybe would be able to help me with the pronunciation but Cassandra on the world tribe playing this season a bit of an unknown factor or an unknown enti entity to me I believe she was again spoiling it for those that haven't watched it in her season runner up playing the game so maybe again if there is a couple of people that are from the Norway guy coming in we've got the cubec coming in maybe there is a couple of people here that can work together does anybody know Cassandra and the live like I'm assuming none of us have watched his season I mean I haven't watched her but I've got a friend who lives in Montreal and he said he watched her and he said that

1:13:47 She was quite like a good player but that's all I have good I don't have anything else to add but yeah can I just can I just say how crazy it is that there's a Survivor Quebec is a province of it's like saying surviv New South Wales yeah like literally just one section of Canada but it's also the section of Canada that wants to succeed and be their own country but still like to have just a state or a province of Canada be its own show is insane and they only speak French on this season but I've seen like the trailers and things for it as kuna getting political yeah but I've seen I've seen like trailers and things for it clips for it looks like a really well put together production at least so sometimes I wish there was subtitles for the season so I could actually watch it because I think it would be good it would be a good show to follow so interested to see what she's going to do on the season try to be Australia 64 episodes is wild to me absolutely wild I'm going to drop another person and this is someone that is going to be well known to maky and I'm kind of

1:15:07 Interested to know his take from New Zealand who this next be I'm not a Survivor New Zealand know the shows but we've got our very first Survivor New Zealander Tess being to be on this next season oh my god I've got a story oh I've got such a good story to tell you guys oh my God his wife okay before no okay tell us the story we need to you can't leave us on a clip hanger like I did to you last night manate okay so once upon a time when I was in high school in 2018 I used to play Instagram Survivor games right I to play Instagram Survivor games where you would I guess pretend to be another player you say oh I'm playing like Tony's my character right you still play like how you want but just for that season you're M Tony and stuff right anyways I had a huge crush on Tess in 2018 and so quite often I would make my did you write a song for her no it's something even worse something even worse Chris and so anyways I made a my account at the time had like a test profile picture and I had a few

1:16:27 Photos no it's not that bad Brendon I promise it's not it's not that bad but anyways what happened was is that like we started chatting and stuff like that right but then she kind of got bit weirded out because obviously I'm a fan account and like my profile picture was Tess well was her and you know I had some posts like about her of me and other Survivor games and it got to the point where other Survivor contestant started following me thinking I was test from New Zealand and the great Amy from season 2 legitimately thought I was I was Tess and we were having a conversation and I brought up one time I still have the conversation screenshotted where I bring up how oh like school's going pretty hard at the moment T we' got like exams and stuff and she was like wait how old are you and I was like I said 16 and I got blocked and i' so many players start blocking my account and unfollowing me just because they very quickly realized I was not Tess from Survivor New Zealand L down yeah absolutely down was there anybody else that actually knew anything about Tess's game like Tom did you watch Survivor

1:17:47 New Zealand do you know anything about it my parents lived in New Zealand when like the two seasons were aired and they just told me it was awful I the only memory I have of surviv New Zealand was seeing them do a puzzle and it was just one of those puzzles where it's like it's literally you got to go one two three four five all the way to 100 I'm like that's not a puzzle yeah that's just that doesn't count we can't count Tom we can't count but I remember I remember watching it surviving New Zealand I was like and I had to put on I put a post out on social media to all my New Zealand friends I was like honest question do they show Survivor in New Zealand CU I tried to watch the first I was like it looks like they have no clue what survivor is how it's played how to do it and I just didn't follow from then on but one thing I'm hoping if we have a New Zealand person on this show when they build the shelter I'm really hoping they build a deck I want them to build to on their shelter just so everyone can enjoy that beauty that is the New Zealand accent the dick well something about T's game though you know just to talk seriously about Tess she's not a very strategic person she was

1:19:07 A social challenge kind of player she was a runner up because she had very loyal allies she always stayed very loyal to the to her alliances and stuff she shouldn't really flip-flop or anything but I wonder if she has actually leared anything from you know from my fan account or from you know watching other Survivor seasons and even from the winner of that season who was actually a big Survivor fan to the point where she wore an Ahab shirt to the life finale so yeah I hope I hope TI does well you know imagine if tiess and ien were together guys that would blow my mind teenage Crush adult Crush you know crazy like how would you choose which one two which one of the two Castaways you need to create a that well one of the has not blocked me yet you know she still listens to my voice messages so I no I'm poor she's too she's too PE she E's too PE for this world I'm going to go into the next person which I think is a big name being dropped and one of the reasons I feel very confident that Luke may do better than what we think this season we've got the golden God let go let's go let's go baby

1:20:28 Sorry for anybody who was listening to this with their headphones on and just lost their hearing second but I don't care I'm SOC can we put a muzzle on mcky please I'll break through it with my recorder Tom oh Tom what's your thoughts the golden god coming back to play this game he just finished Deal or No Deal Island 2 with py and they're both playing this season yeah American show yeah he's just finished the season with her so big chance for some preseason alliances happening between the golden god hopefully the golden god and py got along we're hoping I would love it if like I remember you know David you know when he was trying to like get Abby on his Alliance and he was like trying to seduce Abby I'd love it if like if you know David's trying to seduce p and pav is trying to seduce David and they both think they're doing such a good job that scene you know but oh seeing David that would be amazing the golden God I hope he I hope he gets on one of those rewards like the movie reward where he had to find the clue in the popcorn and he just he literally like puts his face in there and just oh I want to see that again yeah I think you know the golden god is made

1:21:48 For TV if he's going to come back it's going to be entertaining it's going to be exciting Mony you had a big response to seeing David come back I think David and Luke both will team up against George and I think that's another reason why I feel like George is going to be on the outside very soon in this game if the rumors are true and they're both playing this game well I mean the second you said that DAV was on this cast my mind immediately went George's effed like you know you've got David and Luke who's had two of the biggest like reputations right you know pre George and now you've got George like you know dance around like I'm the king I'm the king these guys are going to squat him you know like I think while they've both got huge legacies in this game like George's one often does have that villain heavily attached to it where it's like enough time has passed for David to not have that big villain attached to his name if that makes sense so I think I Tom I say do you Reon it's going to be like David's going to be behind giving George a wedgie and then Luke's going to be like stop hitting yourself stop hitting yourself going to be it like the first episode be great yeah and yeah I think it's going to be I mean it's going to be pretty interesting to see how far David

1:23:08 And Luke could go but I think both of them will make merge but yeah I think George does not have longevity anymore and if you if you hear who the final two people or three people are in the tribe as well I think you'll understand why I don't feel like the producers looked out George this season at all because I really feel confident George is stuffed coming into the season and we'll talk about some of the other people that are rumored to be on the cast for the Australian tribe but it's not looking good for George is all I'm saying like if there's any truth to this rumored cast like I'd be surprised like maybe he did run the marathon on the weekend maybe he's already back at home to be honest like it's highly possible at the moment and listen if we're wrong we're wrong we'll own it we'll own it but I just feel like to haven't stacked it in his favor kuna the golden god coming back to play the game again kuna final thoughts he's going to be reunited with Janine and also Luke on the season what's a man to a King what's a king to a god is the next level up right like the golden god like Drop to have to have Tony Vos the goat of us and for me David is the goat of Australia Survivor to have them both competing against is immense when and to have David with Luke

1:24:28 And his side as well like we know they've got that relationship that they'll take each other out they'll work together they like each other and man they work well together and to have them going up against the world with each other in the in the corner oh man I'm excited for this I can't believe we have a season where George we're talking about George getting beaten and stuff like that like and it's not looking good for him but we're talking about George King George being third billing fourth billing on his own tribe like that is insane for someone of his status of what he's done for the game of his of his presence in the in the Survivor world and we're more excited about so many more other players on the team says a lot about how stacked this is it's like that SC it's like we have to get the freaking like the doctor strange ring and this is like all the Multiverse is coming together and it's freaking excited man they're running through the circles to have a Tony with a David and a shiny with a pav and it's like what like I can't wait I can't wait and I got excited seeing David as well it's crazy yeah it's crazy I mean I'm excited let's see what people in the live are saying about it gab saying golden god returns thought he become too successful I consider

1:25:48 David the best Au winner glow host are saying excited to see David and Luke Doo back to be honest I think everybody wants to see it's just such a lovable friendship that they have and we want to see that back on the show sincere saying I don't think George and shie will get back together to be honest if they do it will be fake Gabe is saying David has said he doesn't like George in his Recaps with Shannon I'm aware of those so that's why I'm thinking that David will go after George Jonathan is has said how do you guys think two to three week game will affect the play good question Jonathan I think it's going to be fastpaced which is suit a player like Luke like Tony like a lot of these players that are that are used to playing a fast and loose game like I think we'll be like our big players they'll probably do really well George can think very quickly on his feet I was impressed at how quickly he can do numbers but I just don't know if they're going to give him the ability to find a footh hole but it's going to be a fast-paced game Ben is saying David and Luke are coming into this in a great spot having each other and another bult-in Ally and Janine along with others having enough bad blood that they are unlikely to team up against them and that's my thoughts as well especially when we get into the next couple of names for this Aussie tribe I think it will be the nail in the coffin for George if you see who else is also coming into this season Danica saying David Luke and Dirty Harry that would be awesome

1:27:08 I really hope he's there too Michelle is saying I have no idea how this Aussie tribe is going to jail true it's going to be hostile AI saying they cast George for comic relief starting to lose a bit of Faith there already on George is that the case at the moment and then Jerome is saying David needs to pay these bills ask forus world then Deal or No Deal Island same for poverty though y welcome to the live I saying I don't think more additions will be happening for the Aussies there are still players from NZ and South Africa still eight places to fill there will be one from Norway so seven places to be honest I hope chapis gets to come back he deserves another chance chud is saying guys remember that David also got shaie whole Alliance out so we might have hostilities there leading to shaie teaming up with George and Jenny saying Kirby will be a number for whatever side she has picked nobody else from her season on I think she will ride the middle probably and I do agree Ryan saying George versus David equals epic let's talk about the next person here that is on the season and this is a season again where I'm glad m is on the channel because we are going to have to rely on maky andge we're gonna the UK

1:28:28 No why stupid an idiot he is an idiot the story of the idle cage yeah oh you guys have to see the idle cage it was a joke oh bring back Lee honestly Gabe let's bring back Lee what do you think yeah Gabe is saying the lster trap that's what we're talking about oh my goodness so for context guys whated was it was it was like the bir cage twist right you had a lobster cage with an idol in it but it's under locking key right Matt here now bear in mind he did win the season right so Mt prop for winning spoiler yeah sorry spoilers gosh sorry anyways he finds he finds the key unlocks her and him and his closest Ally Chris was like you know what let's just leave it in there leave it like locked and stuff so people won't get too suspicious but they didn't lock it properly and so the guy on the bottom lit Cas walked up opened it and took the idol yeah and it's all his fault it's all his fault goo's fault like Ben thinks he's the best player he

1:29:48 No Lawrence was the best player Lawrence should be back on he's great he's a little fruity what about Shai what about Shai no not shy it's peg leg or Lawrence and that's it JY saying he's only on CU he won so this one got the most the most reaction like childood coming on hard saying who's this idiot you our live audience is getting hostile right now okay I just like that there's like UK in general we like should I watch UK like no it's crap it's crap and there's only one good thing about this they're like Pig leg big leg like what's his name is it Matt I don't even Matt yeah jeez Louise yeah all right so we have got one more International player playing in the world team and we have got three more players for the Australian team to go through so I think we need to speed it up and go through the Australian ones here and we'll continue to add to why I think this is going to be a very difficult tribe for George to play and this next one I think we'll get probably the biggest reaction from Tom Sarah rumor to be on this season okay

1:31:09 And I'm on the season two it's Christmas oh we're both on the same season oh my gosh no way oh yeah like listen Tom and I have both bonded over the fact that when we watched Survivor back in the day s Sarah was our Crush back then she was our survivor Crush so great to see Sarah play the game again a one-time player coming back from a season long forgotten Survivor 2017 I believe it was when it first a yeah so we're going back we're going back here Tom and she wasn't an alliance with your boy Luke back in the day like and I think they're still in good terms and she's friends with David gnut outside of the game like it's done it's St this Tri is stacked and it's weighing in David and Luke's favor at the moment is all I'm saying actually no to be fair s like all Sarah and Luke wanted to do was vote each other out it was only with Jericho there that they stayed together DAV there her friends but yeah but David's not exactly Jericho like Jericho is the little teddy bear in the middle that kept you know Sarah and Luke on good terms I don't know if David can be like that teddy bear would you freak out if Jericho's the name oh I don't really I mean I don't mind Jericho but like

1:32:29 I mean yeah he's all right I'm just I'm playing I'm playing with you Jericho is not on the season it would have been pretty crazy if Luke had both Jericho and David playing the season with him that'd be unfair would be stacked but very excited to see Sarah come back potentially and play this game this is what's rumored at the moment maky this is your favorite season of all time yeah hands down it's something I even said I believe when we did like a speculation on who could be casted Sarah and Benji were two one-time player names that came to my mind on they both made I guess you know like since the fact they haven't come back to play again it's like their legacy is building up because they haven't come back and play again if that makes sense and so I'm so excited to see Sarah come back and play and yeah no I'm excited for Tom as well you know I had e last season this season he's got Sarah Maybe I'm on there like I said like I'm the last I'm the last one we're waiting for Tom's reveal to be the last reveal on the tribe yeah for sure thank you thank you but yeah very excited to see Sarah play kuna thoughts I'm just excited that Tom gets to have Sarah on the season every episode we're recapping would just be Tom going on about Sarah it's like

1:33:49 Finally a woman I like no it's like just joking gabab a lot of people very happy yeah Dan apologies like we're going to talk about placements and things we're hoping people have seen every single season out there Marcus is saying finally long overdue let's see who else is saying Gabe saying Thomas happy for two models am man Ben is saying wow they really stack the deck for Luke and David totally agree Jenny saying Luke is so well set up so many connection sorry George saying God I honestly forgot season two I need to watch it again forget season two Chad like is watch season two this I mean CH is George but let's not forget that so far we have shny Kirby George Luke David Janine Sarah that's right yep that is right so far shny Kirby George Luke David Janine and Sarah who else that we spoke about on that season I think that's all of them that we've so yeah johanes is saying I'm behind Rob the South African spring obviously johanes we've got to rep we've got to shout for the South African Survivor player being out there but again bit outnumbered would have been nice to have a couple other South Africans playing with him gab saying could be

1:35:09 The secr weapon for George to overthrow David and Luke Mary saying some choices are choices gab saying typical Tom it's always the model woman that he likes I didn't know Janine models actually that's funny yeah is Janine a model Gabe didn't know that huh Marcus is say I just hope Sarah doesn't get the random purple edit considered who's rumored on the tribe that is true CH saying I've watched the season I remember hating Tara oh am man Tom Love T most useless Survivor player in the history of the universe wow yeah wow that is rough this is honestly RG George would do so much better on the world TR CH losing ch's losing that enthusiasm and that faith that he had coming into this one but maybe this next person that I'm going to reveal maybe they're going to be George's saving in this game because I mean George needs some backup out there boys right like he needs a little bit of someone that could potentially help him in this tribe so maybe this next player will help him out there Tommy what do you think of Simon being in George tribe for the season

1:36:29 Holy moly wow yeah I'm happy to see over okay is this is this a fair assumption whichever side Simon sides with is the side that's G to lose just statistically speaking you know listen all I know is I don't know what George did to piss off production like they're not giving him anybody this season Kahuna like they were like George is most fun when he's the outsider let's make him a true outsid of the Season coona man like just everyone gunning for him maybe they make that's the story they're making George like run the gamut he's just going to take out all the enemies like people that are gunning against him King George stands at the end would be an amazing story but everyone against him at least Simon will be like comic relief in his attempts at George like Luke and David feel confident Simon feels funny which is great you know at least he adds a little bit of levity to the situation I hope Mony you're losing it over there mate talk to us what's happening you're losing it George is I'm sorry he there's no way he's making

1:37:49 I'm sorry you kind like when made fun of Tommy on potentially the first boot George is guaranteed the first boot now there's no way saying like I mean I do feel a bit bad for George in some ways like you know because he's been working his ass off to promote Australian Survivor over in the US work they like being over there all the time and all these events and like give him some credit like the guy's putting in the work and then they're like oh yeah we'll let you play This World season that you've been working your ass off for so long you know talking to people like fair play and winw who's not on the season we're going to put you on the season without all these people that you've been hanging out with plus we're going to put all of your biggest rivals in the same season as you and let's see if you're really as good as you say you are like I feel like someone's angry at him for some other reason Tom like what did he do to production to piss them off I don't even know I mean George I think the more time you spend with him the more you wish for his demise he just seems like his voice is like a mosquito buzzing in your ear so I reckon production are just like yeah George we've had enough of you CH saying watch George pull off something amazing this season Jonathan is saying this is punishment for pregaming and AR saying George will be saved by a tribe swap

1:39:10 So maybe we see an early tribe swap M like how long can they go with the season being Australia versus world like how long do you think maky is acceptable for it to actually be Australia going head versus the world before they do a tribe swap maybe three rounds in or something well it's interesting right because often when it comes to two tribes of nine and 80% cast they either swap at 15 to three trips of five or they'll keep it to two tries of two and we know a strali Survivor likes a keep it at just two tries right so I have a feeling they're going to swap at 14 maybe after four rounds so two tries is seven that would be like my guess for when the swappers but and we also like all know how much like loves to promote this tribe against that tribe you get what I mean so there definitely won't be any early swaps or anything but I mean you know to char dude's credit if George somehow makes this work like he has to be the best Australian Survivor player if he's able to actually like pull the numbers to his side survive and make his way through his Abyss because so much is literally stacked against him yeah SN is saying finally my prediction of George being first boot might come true only three seasons too

1:40:30 Late SNF was always he was team Haley That season I was team George and you may see it who knows again rum cast of this stage speculation we don't know 100% but there's a lot of names that have been confirmed already Simon was probably one of the Wilder picks in my in my mind especially with such a stacked cast like if it was a person season rather than an 18 person season and there's a couple of extra dummy names being thrown in there just to cause a little bit of confusion I could easily see Simon being one of those right based on the cast that we've heard so far I think he's cemented his Legend status in Australia just from how like hilarious he I think he was the star of the show entertainment wise me for heroes and villains yeah it was entertaining to see him like be so wrong but right at the same time when it came to like calling out George and George being a like a threat to get to the end and win the game and no one wanting to listen to him and you kind of I don't know if you guys are like me when somebody dominates the season to a certain degree and they just steamroll it you kind of want the underdog to win or upset the apple card and that is what Simon represented he was the Aussie battler That season I mean who would forget the nickname The cat will jelp call him

1:41:50 The cat again Mony if he comes back well I mean like Simon has a vendetta against George and a vendetta against Idols no Idols ever gone right for poor Simon so if an if he gets in the hands of an idol oh boy oh boy this yeah The Season's gonna be a Rocky Hill from there but now I have high hopes for Simon like he's like he was on my maybe list like I could see him representing Australia but like I thought all the big dogs like Dave and Luke George were all going to be on it and Simon was always like yeah maybe they'll put him in cuz he's such a huge character but could also see him like saving him for like another Allstar season but I'm yeah I'm glad to see Simon back and 's going to be a lot of fun with Simon back he's in the mix he's in the mix right now that is what is out there is there only one more Australian there is one more Australian who do you think it is I know who it is knowing you like you've obviously like structured this a certain way I know who you'd be saving for last tell no you got to put if you if you if you feel like you're in my head like that you like you got to call it you got to call it now let's see if you're right it's a it's a player that you really rate and I think is an absolute goober a winner maybe a winner of

1:43:10 A very early season maybe the first oh Christie I'm just say I thought personally I personally thought Christie would be a potential to be on this season she's not according to what I've heard so it's not going to be christe on this one but I can see why you would have thought I would have left her for very late this person is someone that I was very surprised to see their name floating about and again if this is a 14 person cast and I've left Simon and this person to last I could see them either being on the season or not because I am a bit shocked that her name's come up but it's Moana oh what yeah I'm a bit shocked Wow way for saving that just the yeah go you know oh my goodness that's just like but again someone again someone that's worked with David in the past right if she is if she's on there I don't know if she'll work with him again or not but maybe she won't have options her I mean something to moana's credit I would defend Moana because I've said this tons of times where with the dominant Alliance and All Stars Moana was the center of all of it David couldn't really make a move because everyone was

1:44:30 So loyal to Moana would have known about her right so I kind of feel like she traps David in a box I do think David is obviously like such a phenomenal player strategic M stuff I think Moana did kind of corner him when it came to that but it's also kind of like really to represent Australia like I personally would have rather Shan bring back Rogue's bigger Rogue yeah Abby like there's a couple of people you could you could have gone to yeah but yeah I hear you on that she had the alliance she kind of created the alliance that David took over and ran better than her at the end so it was kind of it was interesting how that season played out because he took her numbers to the end and won basically yeah it was it was it was very confusing to watch but G thoughts on Moana coming back there's a lot of people in the live that don't seem very excited about Moana being on this list yeah I did I was so IND indifferent to her she was just like I didn't like her I didn't dislike her she's okay I was like whatever it's a weird Choice like I don't know why she would be on this season in a stacked cast when we're saying oh if I squint I can maybe see why Simon makes the list because he's so intricately tied to George you know the story lines there but Moana doesn't bring

1:45:50 Anything like that as far as you know the extra things for the for the show there's no drama there's no rivalries there's no sparks there's nothing that I see her adding to the show and I don't know why maybe to add she's capable physically I guess in challenges AFL player but yeah I don't know that's the thing the AFL player and the AFL coach like you've got such a wide pool of people to choose from you think you wouldn't double up on the same person yeah that's very true would say k is to choose between who Liz just she just had a baby I think baby I would even just for recency bias and momentum I would have chosen a Valeria or you know someone from Titans Rebels just to get that recency audience in you know what I mean she doesn't carry legendary status with her after this many years that's for sure well I had to brag but Moana actually my sister no one cares I'm not saying that I'm not saying that because her last name is Hope right yeah okay so sorry guys for leaving that one for last I know a lot of people felt very underwhelmed with that name being dropped but hopefully

1:47:10 This next person will get people excited again someone that I wasn't too familiar with myself because I didn't watch Survivor New Zealand season 2 but M another New Zealander adbri Adam was being R what Adam what why Tom if you thought if you thought Matt was a shock bloody Adam what like what he seems like a string young Lally literally him and Tess were best mates right he was really funny on the show but that's it yeah like what why is Adam I don't know I can't help you on this one like you've got you've got Lisa who won you've got Lisa who won season two right she worn Ahab shirt to the live finale where she won right huge Survivor fan you've had Mike Sparrow in season one who literally made a Survivor toonga as well like only a couple years ago right huge and he was also like a jacked guy as well so if you're looking TOS the challenges Mike's a good one to bring on but Adam like I don't think Adam even knew a Survivor

1:48:30 Was before he was on it either and I doubt he's kept up with that like there's been nothing I've seen I've seen I've seen his account post things live recently so but again could be a red hering could be someone doing it on his behalf or this could be one of those ones where it's off and like we have said the whole time it's a speculation at this stage we don't know if everything's 100 % confirmed but two New Zealand players being honored like I think Jenny said over South Africa is wild and I agree like I feel like there's a lot of people that we could have taken from essay Australia gosh like I mean don't get me wrong Adam is really funny like I do remember him like he always like made my family and I laugh and stuff like that I should have personated him for this next season but yeah with Adam it's like yeah he was funny but he didn't really bring anything else you get what I mean like he wasn't really playing he wasn't really doing like he pretty much played identical game to Tess except Tess actually won challenges right but they need some Canon f for some of the US players that are going to play this season probably they need people that they can get through right to get deep into the game I'm just I'm just fascinated by the balance of these two tribes and

1:49:51 Kuna one of the things that we talk about on the challenge a lot when we cover the challenge is that you get people coming into the Challenge from the world and they've got the best of the USA taking on the world and then it's people from different countries like you've got Germany being represented turkey being represented sometimes Australia is being represented but there is no unifying force that brings those players together that ultimately mean that they can stand up against the USA players that have got such a strong bond because they've played in Seasons before together do you see this season being something like that where the Aussies will have more often a true unity and identity that will keep them together and stick them together in the game than some maybe a world tribe that is so divided you've only got a couple of USA players then you've got one South African you've got two new zealanders you've got someone from Finland playing a game from the Norway from the UK can you see that being something that could be an aules heill because you need tribe strength in this game or do you not see it play out the same way as it does on the challenge sometimes and I think it can go either way in that when you have like on the challenge when you have the prior relationships you also have past hurts and past rivalries and past you know things that can become an issue or it can be a jelling thing

1:51:11 Where you've worked well together in the past you know what works well but I think the difference between the challenge and Survivor at least for this season specifically taking people from around the world I think is negated somewhat by the fact that they seem to be picking people that have gone far and at least know how to play the game I don't know about this UK BL that made everyone laugh but he won so I mean that's just something but the fact that they're not just from other countries and on here for their social media following or they're on here because they're you know what they seem to be actual players at least from what I can tell for the ones that I don't know that puts him in a good position hopefully it means that be able to see through some of the things and maybe unify together against the US kind of thing will it work for Australia if they mix up the teams 100% I think the Australians will stick together against the us when the teams are mixed and they'll gravitate towards each other and obviously when it's separate tribes Australia versus the us then you know it doesn't really play because they're all going to be taking each other out anyway but I do think if it gets mixed up Australians will stick together I'm hoping we have to kind of you know take it out well something to counteract that I think George is flipping first chance he gets I think shie is socially

1:52:31 And strategically smart enough to know she's not going to be a part of the David Luke bro group right it's GNA be them Sarah and Janine and potentially even Simon as well you know Simon was such a huge fan of sha he's probably GNA be a huge fan of David as well and s's not an idiot either so I did see like players like that even Luke could potentially try spice things up with Rob from South Africa right so I think everyone does have the ability to flip on their own country if they think they need to better their own game because the title of world champion you get what I mean I think that's going playing on a lot of people's minds as well so yeah but survive that it's cuse the numbers game so it's going to be important to know when you do that who are the people that you can work with on the other side and again this rumored cast is true for people like Luke I don't know why you would want to do that too early in the game right because you've got a lot of people there that you potentially could work wor deep into the game like it may be premature to do it but I know I had Luke on the podcast when we when we interviewed him about a potential Worlds Collide season where he said it would be interesting to see if how people how the fans would perceive it if an Australian were to flip on the Australian tribe and work with world right and would someone like himself

1:53:52 Who's been a people's champ or favorite from the fans perspective still be a fan favorite if they turn their back on Australia to prolong their game and get deeper into the game so those are the kind of things that would be interesting if a season like this did happen and if someone like Luke did flip Tom I would say George probably at this stage if this cast is true is the most likely person that if he gets to a tribe swap he's out yeah no like I think that the whole the whole nature of the Australian tribe is very it's very unbalanced but I actually see comparisons to like American All Stars like season 8 because when you look at the tri the Australian tribe as a whole You've got Sarah tki which compared to most of the people you'd say is a very unknown player and then you've got me and then you've got a bunch of like Superstars so I could see us all being on the beach together Sarah and me falling in love and just you know sort of taking out Luke and David and all that we get to the end you know she wins but that's okay because we're married so I get the money as well and I really see the season going down that path it's late guys is what I'm hearing Tom's starting to become delusional and is rambling right now I've got a question for you what's more likely to happen

1:55:12 Tom and Sarah or me and shinb you and shinb she's in a different country she's in a different country but he's actually mention he's actually spoken to her she told me she loved me gave me a hug and believes in Bigfoot she was paid to be there hey I might have spent $400 but it was the best $400 I've ever spent so you're making it sound let a guys let's get on track here let's have a look at a couple more comments here before we leave I think a couple of people didn't like the way that it ended with some of the names that we've had not on purpose guys as you probably thought about it before revealing it in a different order but you know let's see what people are saying on the cast in total so SN saying should have had a on it drum saying Adam going to steal the show with his sassy charismatic pettiness Gabe is saying is he the world tribe MOA then M Moana then Maki chared is not too sure is he the world tribe Moana then maky I don't know if you know what that means but is this G being crazy saying Chris I hate you for leing this stream of a sour taste like no knows who this person is and my own like all I need to say is Moana James saying line this car sounds awful but so did hero versus Villains Bren saying looks for Mony

1:56:32 Adam's Instagram fan account sad wants to see Dino and Simon on the same cast unfortunately not going to happen by the sounds of it let's see what other people are saying luckan saying but surely sh gets along with Sarah yeah I can see that I can see Sarah and Sh get along pretty well on the season say I don't think anyone on this cast has gone lower than fifth or sixth place which is pretty stacked Sarah was eth Place sadly but yeah we'll forget that selective memory Tom we'll have selective memory on that one Jonathan saying how early is too early in a 15 Day game I think it's 15 has to be long yeah I think like if the cast is more than 14 people right and we don't know if it's they're giving us because you know our spoiler accounts sometimes are people give you a little bit of information they may give you more people than what's actually on the season it could still be 14 days but if it's 18 days and it takes more days than that like there's no way 18 days you're not going to have 15 or 14 days like you just can't go through that many people I think in such a short period another question I had for this you know maky you're the person who loves Redemption Island the most out of all of us or Exile Island I should say do you think that edge of Extinction I forgot the name it's the worst one of all of them but anyways edge of Extinction you love it the most right

1:57:52 Do you think on a season like this with such a stack cast that they would do an edge of Extinction I mean if you've got Tony and those guys out there are you going to try and bleed them for all you can like on this season is this now the time for Australian Survivor to just go all out and do edge of Extinction yeah I mean edge of Extinction really works on an All-Star cast right because you at least can rout and actually like the people who could potentially be on the edge of Extinction right so I can definitely see them trying a Redemption Island kind of twist for season like this right but I mean it's just you're not gay no one likes you either any yeah I hope that there was some kind of Redemption on sort of twist AR it be really fun but sneaky Steve is always on he's always on I go out with sneaky Steve over Shin any day but yeah bring it back full circle maybe but also potentially not likely because yeah I mean maybe if it was a 14 days is 14 people then yes by if it's just 18 people maybe not so yeah I don't know how people can like some someone said it was an awful cast I think at least a half the cast are 10 out of T you got like a quarter that's like eight out of tens and then like another quarter

1:59:13 That's like between like a five and a seven out of 10 like moan is like a four or five out of 10 but that's about it really yeah H that's a pretty good cast if you ask me yeah I did ask in the beginning of this Live on YouTube are you going to be team Australia or team World on this season if you were to watch it and we have had 96 people vote on the live 67% of our live audience have said they will be team Australia with 33% saying that they will be team World heading into the season so definitely a very strong Aussie crowd watching us live tonight that are all going Aussie for the wi not team World the real test is you Chris where do you where do you lie now being South African by way of New Zealand now living in Australia I've got to be no to be honest with you I've got to be team aussy because Australian Survivor for me has been carrying Survivor for the last couple of seasons have been the superior product so I have to go with Team Aussie but with Tony like if Tony beats aie then Tony's always got my loyalty above Aussie but if Tony's out I'm all in on Aussie I'm all in on Aussie any of the Aussies can win it in my mind speaking of Aussie I wish

2:00:33 Aussie was on the world tribe that would the original challenge Beast I'm surprised they only have three Americans that's I mean I guess the Americans cost so much money like those three Americans definitely cost more than the rest of the world tribe combined yeah and those are the ones that channel 10 have already confirmed on the so you know like and Tony has been confirmed by Channel 10 themselves so that's not even speculation we know they're out there that is crazy and wild like you said that could be probably three qus of the world budget went into just acquiring those three players to play season I mean that was that was always going to be the trouble with America right cuz I'm pretty sure it was originally meant to be Australia versus America that's what the original rumors are but I guess you have players who are scared to go out because you know you might get blacklisted for season 50 but also just how expensive is Tyson and Boston Rob gonna be you get what I mean and some of these other players so yeah Brendan wants to change his vote now that Moana is on the Aussie team that is it really here for tonight snuff saying great podcast guys enjoy the rest of the time on the island Tom let's a rewin please with a wink do solid you know I can't let

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