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Survivor 43: Draft & Cast Assessment

Podcast episode · 17 Sept 2022 · 1 hr 26 min

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0:14 [Music] so [Music] [Music] [ __ ] [Music] welcome back to the nullify tech channel where we've got the tnt takes for you on survivor 43 that's right we're back myself and jake we're back to talk about survivor 43 jake it has been a couple of months how spring's on your end been really busy really excited for this new season it'll give me something to look forward to every week that's kind of my favorite thing about survivors like it gets me excited for the next week to come and just something to look forward to so this would be good yeah like you've actually had an off season i've not had an off season because i've been watching survivor 42

1:34 Straight into south africa straight back into 43 and also been doing a lot of other content as well so what is an off season for me at this point you've had like what has it been like two weeks or something yeah not even like i mean i guess maybe a week or two weeks with survivors of africa but it kind of feels like it's all blurred into one not really no i'm back into but i feel like that's going to make me game sharp going into this fantasy draft today i'm hoping in any case we've got christian gal back in the live welcome christian long time no see guys and also dolores welcome back to the live we just had dolores in our challenge usa finale as well we had two survivor players jake win the challenge usa spoilers that have not watched it yet yeah they represented the franchise really well over there all right so let's get into it jake we've got a bit of picking to do here now from memory you were the person who won the previous draft so that would mean that this time around you're also going to have the honor of choosing the order would you like to go first this season or would you like for me to go first this season i'll throw you a bone chris you can go first all right

2:55 All right i like that i like the fact that you're being generous and i'll go first so how this draft is going to work for those that weren't around when we did our survivor south africa draft it's gonna be a little bit different from what we did last season so last season it was just outright whoever had the winning player would win but this season we're gonna put some points to it so it's gonna be more interesting so when we're picking these players we need to keep into consideration the following and i'll put it up somewhere on twitter or instagram so people can know what the points are because i know some people get really into it and they want to know this but the criteria is jake for confessionals each confessional will give you one point this season for your player team challenge wins is three points but the team challenge wins has to be an outright win it can't be a second place win so it has to be an outright win to make it more interesting individual immunity wins will give us five points making the merge would give us five points a successful advantage play so it can't just be played it has to be successful as five points finding an advantage is three points votes against you is minus 0.5 points as a negative to you for each vote the runner-up for the season gets 25 points and the winner gets 50 points we also have some bonus categories this season the bonus categories for each one of these bonus categories you will get 25 points for your player

4:15 It's going to be most confessionals for the season most individual immunity wins for the season most advantages found for the season or least votes casted against them for the season would get you 25.8 and the reason that we're doing this is last season who would have seen marianne winning right like that came from absolutely nowhere obviously jake you picked marianne but i think you had a like mid table somewhere when you picked it yeah it's a bit of a fluke you know not saying like she did the right things at the right time but it meant she won the whole thing so we wanted to make it a little bit give a little bit more meat and potatoes to this thing i guess this season but i think you had mike as well so you probably would have won regardless because he was killing it that season in the confessionals true i think he had the most yeah so yeah i think so let's have a look at the draft table here bring that up for the season i apologize for those that are watching the video side of things it's cropped out the top of the heads here normally does that so i'm gonna have to go fix that after the season so it looks a little bit better when we are putting them into these teams but i do have the first pick and you know what i'm gonna be really messy this time around jake i'm gonna say we can pick men or women like normally we go men women men women this time no let's just outright let's see where your bias is are you gonna be strong on the men

5:35 This time or you're gonna be strong on the woman jake you know it's gonna be interesting because last season when we did this i think we were heavily leaning towards the woman off the previous season and not so much the main but not and ultimately actually won we were we were more we were more biased towards the women that didn't win and then yeah okay well you know what i'm going to take i'm going to take an obvious pick here because i've seen i've not been online all that often this season when it comes to survivor i normally don't like doing a lot of the preseason stuff too much and getting my hopes up on players too much before the season even starts but this player even for someone like myself that have not really been completely in the know-how of what's going on this season has been getting a lot of traction in its own night so i'm going to take him off the board in my first pick reasons for overnight is he is 30 years old so a little bit older i like people that have got a bit of life experience going into this thing he's a college admissions director something you probably know quite a lot about still being in college yourself but he's got great he seems like an all-rounder you know he's done a lot of back backpacking he's done hiking he's done outdoor camping he says that you know a lot of people stereotype asian males but he has broken the stereotype as he grew up because he was very physical did a lot

6:55 Of sports and things like that but he also has the brain so i like a lot of what i'm seeing in the preseason content he's a big fan he wants to play like adam klein in a way where he's like adam klein owned being the super fan he owned that archetype he wants to own that as well but he also wants to bring a little bit of that malcolm to the season so owen knight is going to be my first pick for the season what do you think of that pick great pick i think if i would have chosen to go first probably would have could definitely consider picking him he the thing i like about him is that he is not like the typical super fan like he i think people would probably assume he's a fan of the show but he's not like you know adam klein you know not obviously a super duper nerd fan you know he's not gonna i don't think he's gonna crash and burn at all like some super fans in the past have i just think he's really like i just think he's gonna get really get along well really well with people he just seems very easy to get along with down to earth guy yeah he's been working out a lot i know he said recently and apparently he was in the casting finals for david vs goliath so he's been right on the cusp right on the cusp of

8:15 Getting on the show for quite a while so i think he's chomping at the bit to get out there i think people would also potentially just under mis underestimate his physical ability like you don't look at him and say wow this guy's going to be the next challenge beast for the season but if he does sneak into merge you know potentially there is opportunity for me to get points for him on challenge wins these potential chances i think this guy's going to look for advantages he's clearly a player of the game he's probably going to get a lot of confessionals things like that so i feel pretty strong about this as a first pick at this point i'm glad that i picked him because you just mentioned that you probably would have taken him off the board if i didn't but we're gonna be going back to you now for the second pick and as i mentioned you can pick anyone that can be a male or a female which way are you leaning for your first pick of the season tough time throws a spanner into work when you're doing that and you're like oh wow you know i can't see anyone so yeah okay i think i think i'm gonna go with jesse he is top row all the way to the end i believe yep no i is that just him no just have a quick look we have a quick look here i think i think he's the second to last on the top row on to the right

9:36 No no to the right all right great yeah got you sorry i think that's him i might be here that's the problem when you don't have the faces right so we'll figure this out yeah it's kind of cut off so this guy's got a really cool story i think that his story is gonna be one that is like brought up a lot if he isn't voted out early like it's like a you know his story right the whole like used to be a gang member i saw that yeah very interesting you scott used to be a gang member now he like has his phd in political science which political science is like very relevant to survivor 100 obviously you can't you can't you know teach survivor or like learn how to be how to be the winner of survivor it's luck it's you know working on your feet out there making quick decisions but i really like this guy i think he has ex just he has a lot of life experience and i like that a lot i think that he's charismatic i think he's and i think that's going to mean he's going to get a lot of confessionals and he has a really cool story which is going to get him a lot of confessionals i can just see him i think he's just all around really good do we know if he's a fan of the show

10:56 Has he watched survivor match or well he said which past survivor play would you most play like i'm basically spencer or christian david versus glad if they got jumped into a gang at 15 and then also talks a little bit about thinking about i've spent more hours thinking about how people vote than sandra and boston rob so interesting but let's talk about you know his life experience that he's got i definitely had him marked as i think he was in my fourth place for the men but he was in that upper tier of men that i would consider picking and the reason for that is that to change your life to go from being in a direction and being in gangs in your life potentially ending up in prison or worse you know potentially it could be even worse than that to change your life around to actually go get your qualification and get a phd you know that is a tremendous journey that he's gone through in his first 30 years of living so i do think he's not a quitter i think he's going to be very strong he's not the biggest guy out there so potentially he may not be someone on someone's radar as someone that could win a lot of challenges early on it's just more going to be how does he fit in with everybody but having been in two opposite parts of life having been a gang member and now an upstanding citizen

12:17 In society i feel like he can probably fit in with anyone so i feel like his emotional intelligence will be really high so i do like this pick for you i think you've made a pretty solid pick in your second place i might just stay on the screen as we go back to the full cast here and then the back end i'll continue to put people into our tears and we can have a look at that a little bit later on so far we have gone only for men we've got both the men here chosen as the first but i am gonna take the first one off the board for the females but i'm just trying to think which one am i willing to take a punt on you know what i'm going to go for the risky one here because we've got a different point system this season and there's a lot more to it than just outright winning i'm going to go for noelle lambert i actually came into this podcast wanting to pick at third for the females and i'm going to put her above the others i like to change things around i think she's going to come in with a massive threat on her back being an amputee person you know someone that has the story if she gets to the end she basically wins right so her challenge isn't almost making a case at the end people are gonna say wow how she has come back from being in a motorcycle accident lost the leg had to learn a completely new sport she was a promising lacrosse athlete over in the us did really well and then had to go learn how to do 100 meters and then went to the i

13:37 Think she's already gone through the para olympics so far that's an amazing story so she's got a lot of fight and a lot of heart on her i can see her all over the pre-season content so i've just got a feeling even if she doesn't win she's going to be a big presence this season she's going to give me confessional points and i do think she's an athlete she wants to surround herself with other strong players she said and then vote them out towards the end so i'm going to go for noel lambert and my second choice what do you think of noah lambert i think that's a good choice i don't really like you know just saying this is ridiculous like saying that somebody you can't see them winning because the season hasn't even started yet but you know just based on what i've seen i don't know about her potentially being able to win but in terms of like the new rules for this game that we have definitely think you know similar to jessie has a really cool story that she can talk about a lot and i think one of the funny things i saw in one of her videos is she said like yeah my leg is probably going to fall off a few times during challenges that's just that's just how it goes i just thought that was funny and i think that if it's going to happen that often then i think let me tell you let me tell you how

14:57 She potentially does get to the end right one of the things that was encouraging for me when she had a pre-season content was that she said i don't want anybody to look at me and feel pretty for me so i think that's also what she's going to tell people in the game like listen i'm here to play the game i understand i've got this you know thing here that i've lost my leg but if i get to the end please don't vote for me because of this please vote for me because i was a contributing person in the season maybe she can turn the narrative where people are like well she's not going to ask for the pity votes at the end she doesn't want our pity so we can vote we're going to be able to feel free to vote based on ability alone because that's what she wants to be treated and because of that mindset maybe she can get past the fact that people will see her as this huge threat to get to the end and when and being a foregone conclusion just because the story is too big that's what i'm hoping for in any case the fury tiger wolf here in the life is saying hey chris and jake everyone greetings from the uk hello ferry tiger welcome back to the live there's a few players that most of the players will be terrified of letting get to the end because of their stories and you know we've got the gang member jesse the previous gang member i should say already selected and then also noel here in these spots leaving me with owen and noel so far from my number one or two pick again jake we're gonna come back to you can pick male or female we're keeping it open for you to go in any direction here for your second pick who

16:17 Do you gravitate towards for your second pick i think i'm going to go with is it ellie ely i think it's ellie yeah i'll go with her this is someone that i you know i've kind of browsed you know read it a little bit since the cast has been released this is someone that is getting a lot of hype so i'll write on that hype i guess because yeah you know i have been so busy i just i haven't been able to research too much about these people let me tell you why i'm why i'm really gutted because even with you having done limited research on this right you've picked the person i had as my number one female pet coming into this and i took a gamble yeah to go for noel because it's like jake has been sleeping on the cast he doesn't know what's going on and then it backfired in my face right now because you've got a person that i think is going to be strong she's 31 years old again but a life experience she is someone that her friends compare her to michelle fitzgerald which is not a bad thing because apparently she's got that social game when she's talking in her videos i can see a little bit of michelle fitzgerald in her she's got that little bit of charm about her a very disarming

17:37 Child not a threatening charm which i think is going to be something that people are going to gravitate towards she studied clinical psychology but unlike tori from last season she doesn't seem over confident about her abilities to psychoanalyze people out there so yeah i feel like she's a little bit more of a grounder tory tori obviously would have gotten us so many points if we had a team for last season because she was all over the all over the show and we'd love to see her come back just because she was a larger-than-life character but she wasn't going to win the season now ellie i don't know how entertaining she's going to be that's why i didn't pick her first because there's other points that we necessarily want to go for but can she win the season is she potentially my winner pick i think she may be my winnipeg pre-season i think she's very solid yeah i think this is a bit of you know departure from my philosophy of drafting jesse i think that ellie is more like kind of the safer pick for like she's probably going to do really well she just has that kind of feel to her you know there's like what's an example i think like nick wilson for some reason like before dave versus goliath i was just like that guy just has like a wendell is the perfect window's a great example yeah he's just like he just seems like a winner like before i remember before ghost island that was the first season i watched

18:57 Live i was just like me and my and my family just were like hey let's like draft someone who we think is gonna win and i was like i don't know wendell he just like has the kind of feel to him that he'll win i kind of get that from her like there's nothing like really crazy that stands out it's just kind of everything is like yeah it's all good you know i just kind of get that vibe from her do you agree yeah no 100 agree i think it's a very good pick i feel very confident about it i'm i'm so in so many different minds about what i'm going to do next because i can go to the obvious right you did throw a wrench because i thought i would be able to go back to back with the two female picks here and then i would have ended up because i had no l a little bit lower i would have ended up with two of my top female picks in a row there so now my thinking is do i go for my last outstanding female pick that i think could do well but she is risky because i can also see it potentially blowing up in her face or do i just go in a different direction here and pick one of the men i was impressed with in the preseason and you know what i think i'm gonna go i'm actually gonna go with the man that i felt pretty confident with in the preseason i'm gonna keep it men women mend at this point but i'm gonna go

20:17 For mr james jones is my next pick so just fearful of leaving him on the table fearful i was picking i was gonna pick i was gonna pick him next so you did the right pick he was gonna be my next relief here so he's aged 37 one of the older guys on the tribe you know funny enough you know only not even 48 but he is getting up there he's an event planner he's someone that looks up to sandra because it was her strategy of anyone but me but he sees that he wants to bring some controlled chaos to the game like a russell so that gives me or more control i should say than russell so that gives me a little bit of hope that he's going to be entertaining to watch if nothing else he's potentially going to create some chaos around camp now what that looks like i don't know it might get us some screen time he seems extremely strategic and he won a chess competition when i think he was like 12 or 14 or something like that so you look at the guy he looks like a grunt he looks like a workhorse but he clearly has that intelligence there that if he keeps that under wraps and people don't know about his ability to potentially be a strategical threat out there i do think this guy could go very deep in the game and most of all i really like this vibe in the videos he just seems like a really interpersonal guy that you would get along with so he's not that stereotype chess person that you're not going to get along with because they're too nerdy

21:38 For instance i also play chess when i was in school so i get it you know chess people have to yeah chess people have got a you know we got to back each other and like you said there's so many different moves in chess you got to think so many steps ahead i think it translates really well to survivor so i want to see what he does this season i'm glad i got him here because it sounds like you were gonna go for him as well yep he honestly like thinking about it now i'm like wait why didn't i pick him first i think i yeah i kind of forgot like as you were in the middle of picking i was going through the cast i have another tab open and i was like okay who's who are some other people that kind of stood out to me and i saw james and i was like why did i not pick him first he i really like him as you said just really good vibes just from the video if we're going off just off people who have been really good at chess spencer bledsoe played twice got fourth and third place so clearly chess players kind of know what they're doing so for just going off of that then he's probably gonna do really well i think he's a really like just good speaker i think that he would he's probably gonna get quite a bit of confessionals if he's doing well in the game which i think he will and [Music]

22:59 I yeah i just think he has a really good blend of kind of the triple threat i think that's a really good pick yeah all right well we're gonna come back to you for this next pick and i believe you've got to do either male or female here on your next one which one are you gonna go for next as we move into your third pick overall i haven't even [Music] been really i think we did this last time too we didn't really take into account the tribes that these players were on we have we haven't really taken it into account too much and it's bad on us probably will come back to bite us in the bottom let me just have a look so yeah i'm gonna kind of look at that so let's see i've picked one from yellow one from [Music] see where's jessie one from red okay so you know just to bounce and you know would have been perfect if i could have picked james because he was on blue but i think i'll balance it out you know what yeah i think i'll balance it out i'll pick on lindsay for your next pick tell us why you're picking lindsay so i she is one of the older people and i think that i don't

24:19 Really get the vibe from her of like older woman probably not gonna do too well like that just never really hit me with her i think she's just seems very easy to get along with it just seems really smart i mean she's a nurse nurses are you know they're work horses they i just i just think she's really well balanced i and if even if we're looking at you know the past two seasons the older women haven't done they've done pretty well i mean heather managed the finale she was one fire challenge crazy fire challenge away from making it to the final three which there's been some conflicting reports of like maybe she could have even snagged a few votes so and i honestly i have more faith in lindsay than i do than i did with heather so yeah standing by yeah i could see i could see that i could see her potentially being physically more up there i mean heather yes definitely struggled throughout that season so i definitely can see that i just looked at it i just looked at lindsay though when she was the person i mean obviously the fact that she's been applying for 20 years since she finally got on the show that's heartwarming you know i'm glad that this is something that has happened for her and people that try for so many

25:39 Seasons you know you want to see them succeed and get onto the show but i just didn't find anything i was gonna root for her this season i just couldn't find anything where i was like yeah i'm gonna get behind this woman this season like i'm not like again if any of the cars listen to this please don't take it personal we're making very quick judgment calls based on you know appearance and a few minutes of you talking on a video and giving us a little bit of information on paper chances are one or two episodes and i'm gonna absolutely love you and i'm gonna hate everything i just said about not finding anything to root for you for but i just feel like the stereotype of the mom for me it's kind of like overplayed at this stage so i'm just like yeah i don't know if i'm gonna get behind her that much for it i don't know if the stereotype of the mother figure in the tribe even has its place anymore does people really want to be mothered out there just like the provider has become less of a concern for people they're out there to play a strategic game and will she connect with people that are a lot younger than her efficiently i don't know but she does have a career that she works in which is being a pediatric nurse so she you know needs to deal with different people from all walks of life consistently she's a carer will her career and being a carer be something that will make her put other people ahead of her in the game will she actually be ruthless enough to get to the end i don't know i just don't know best case scenario for her she ends up like chrissy from heroes versus villains triple h

27:00 I never get it right but anyways worst case scenario she's like chrissy i mean best case no worst case she ends up going early like the older lady who went really early last season in the tribe with when it was between her and marianne i forgot her name was moira mariah yes mariah yeah worst case she's like a mariah you know what i mean so i just didn't i wasn't gonna pick her this high personally but let's see where it goes let's see where it goes for the season you know i don't want to say she's definitely not gonna make it because i mean we're making some very judgment big judgment calls off very little information at this stage let's go back for the picks and just to recap on where we're sitting i've got owen noel and who's the last person the man that i picked james right yeah so those are the three i've got and i've got another option here and i'm going to continue to go for the men dare i say it this season when i was looking at the preseason stuff a lot of the men stood out for me more than the woman like last season was the other way around but there's a few men that i was like i just feel like this person is going to be fun to watch i love the characters i love big personalities so i'm going to go for cody aschenmarker

28:20 For my next person in the list because he just had such good vibes you know like i just enjoyed i kind of saw a little bit of who's the surfer guy that played in triple it was a triple h the one there yeah kind of a little bit of a devon i see a little bit of a devon but more so more so the i'm thinking of a different season must be thinking of a different season here i've got my seasons mixed up [Music] but i can't remember him now he had like long hair as well very surfery type of guy in any case so but he's got good vibes for me i like the fact that he does seem like he's going to be good at least talking because he's in sales you know so sales is all about building rapport it's all about finding out how you can be of assistance to other people and manipulating people to a certain degree to believe that you're there to help them when you're trying to get a deal done and paid commission so i do feel like you can add that cut throatness to him and i just don't know what it is about him like he looks like he's physically capable you know and he seems like he's just going to be a fun guy to have around i think that is a first of all i think that's a good pick i was definitely thinking about maybe picking him with my next pick so i think we're it seems like we're kind of on the same wavelengths throughout this

29:41 With cody i said this i said this to myself after i watched his video he kind of reminds me of like fabio but also weirdly enough roxroy he kind of reminds him because he's talking about like providing i think he mentioned that quite a bit in his like interviews and that kind of reminds me of rockstar from last season so first of all i want to say i think it's kind of i like that survivor is kind of like you know they're casting some super fans and then also some people that like you know they want they're here to play and to win but like you know they enjoy some of the other aspects of the game be interesting yes i just want to say i really like that second this guy i think could potentially kill it in the confessionals i really like his vibe i really like it if he's like relevant to the story of the season he i think he could run away with the confessionals because he's just very he's just very entertaining even if he's not really saying anything that interesting i just kind of i just like his way of speaking yeah and he's a sales person man that's what sales people do you know yeah the person

31:01 I was thinking about just to let you know and i'll let you go on in a second the person i was thinking of was sebastian from ghost island and i just couldn't i couldn't get it like who does he remind me of the sebastian but maybe a little bit more for charismatic or more social sebastian you know and in some ways but there's a vibe there's something about him that just immediately reminded me of him and also i think i think you might have mentioned he seems very in shape yeah and i think he could definitely like especially for these team challenges could he kind of reminds me of jonathan in that sense not i mean obviously jonathan is just a crazy specimen of a of a man but like you know there aren't really any there isn't really anyone that like stands out super much physically so i feel like he's probably going to be one of the top performers in the challenges yeah i mean he's got that bald like an aussie type of bulb maybe he's able to do quite a lot of different things but you know the person that he looks up to the most this malcolm he says that mike malcolm was likable because of his physical skills but he was still a humble player and through a skill set played a very sit back and let other people play well as i say the ability to sit back and sometimes play the role of the full to fool the people around them and that's something that he thinks he can do as well in the game so there is a little bit of strategy to him but i agree

32:21 With you i will pick them because you know me i like the big players like the characters i want to be shouting for big players big characters fun people this season that's my thing i'm all team fun this season okay jake that's who i'm picking on my team so tell me who is next in your team thinking about whether i want to sabotage you since you kind of just gave away your philosophy [Music] i'll go with my original pic i'll go with ryan okay the middle on the bottom row got him all right tell us what do you like about ryan so the first time i saw him especially in you know there's the website inside survivor they leak the cast like months and months before survivor like officially comes out with it and it's always interesting to look back at like you know what did i think of this person just by looking at one little picture of them where they're from and what their occupation is and i remember seeing ryan just thinking like okay he's just gonna be like you know a gym bro like i think his picture was like him in the gym with like you know headphones on or something but as i

33:42 As i watched him and kind of learned about him i learned that he had he was born with cerebral palsy and then he was told that like he wasn't gonna be able to walk and then now he's like super in shape like i mean just look at him i mean he's just very good build maybe the most athletic person this season right probably strength-wise yes yeah definitely and also i learned that he like identifies as neurodivergent so like i think that's the way i've heard that term is like more so for like people on the autism spectrum but i don't think he identifies as autistic i think it's more like he feels like his brain kind of works differently than most people and i just i kind of like that like i feel like you kind of have to think a different way in survivor like this is a very weird game this is not like something that just like going through life that you can like you know what i'm trying to say like i get what you're saying there's certain things that you can relate to back in normal life because certain things where you're like oh this seems like normal life but then in normal life people don't lie to you all the time

35:02 Exactly to get ahead like it's so it is different and you're starving and yeah you're right like i mean there's a reason that certain players that have been the most successful in this game they think differently to others that's why they stand out so this could either be a very good thing for him or it could be a very bad thing where he struggles to relate to people around exactly that's because he's but he's got fitness instructing experience i believe so as a fitness instructor you have to work with different peoples at different levels of their fitness they've got different insecurities about being in the gym and stuff like that so you've got to be able to relate to people at a certain level so maybe that'll help him but it is interesting he's a he's i had him in as like right in the middle of my guys because he was like an enigma for me he's like which way is he going to go but he could be a high risk pick but he could that could pay off who knows you know like he's physically capable he's an outdoorsy guy he seems charismatic from what i saw in the in the videos that he was talking so and he's overcome so much so he's not gonna be a quitter he's gonna be out there fighting really hard and i think his tribe's going to rely on them in the early stages who's in that blue tribe let's have a quick look i think james lindsay so seems like we've already picked that tribe we're leaning we're leaning heavily towards this blue truck but it's not as bad as last season when i think we were taku was like completely left out we snubbed they were like they ended up being the best tribe

36:22 Yeah that's why that's why i love these pics because you just go like oh man how wrong was i about all of it but okay so you've got him and there anything else that you want to say before we move on to the next pick yeah so i mean i was going to say kind of what you said is that the you know him kind of being more neurodivergent i think definitely could be a downside but i like to be optimistic around here i think that survive if neural divergence is going to be a positive for you i think survivor is the place for it just kind of you know you have to think out of the box you have to think abstractly so i think that's going to benefit him i think also i was just really pleasantly surprised when i was able to finally watch his like videos because it was so much different than what i thought he was going to be just from seeing his picture so i yeah i like him a lot yeah so dolores he's saying i love that analogy you have to be very adaptive which translates thinking differently i love it so it's a different perspective there very true also christian here saying james jones is wendell's double ganger with better strategy and lindsay reminds me of maybe chrissy which is what i mentioned earlier so just catching up on some of those comments that have come in since we've made some of our picks but

37:43 It's back to me now jake and you know i've held off on this person for a whole i feel like two rounds now i was like i don't know if i should pick them maybe you'll pick them and then i can move on to the next person but you haven't picked them so it's a little bit of a risk in my opinion but i feel like this person could be a winner but again it's like it's one of those ones that could go either way she was my second female pick when i came into this and i've held off from picking her because there's something in the back of my mind that's telling me she's maybe going to be too dominant too much of an alpha female but i'm going to go for justine brennan as my next pick i've held off from picking her for a while and justine brennan she is the kind of woman that i like to shout for in these reality tv shows i can just tell she's going to be a boss lady she's going to go out there she's going to be strong she's an alpha she works in a cyber security sales environment i work in rec tech i'm an i'm in a sales rec tech environment as well so i understand when she says that mainly when it comes to the technology sales industry it's heavily male dominant like you normally even in our team like we've got a team of i believe about 18 people in my department and we've got three females right so she's right it is very heavily male dominant so she's used to dealing with big male personalities in that environment so i think that's going to translate well for her when she goes into the game

39:03 She's going to be on the vesey tribe so obviously a big male character in cody there we've got jesse yeah we've picked half this tribe as well there's only a few people that we haven't picked noelle's already picked so i think he's picked more than half four yeah i think i think he and noel are going to get along as well because they're both alpha type of female personalities but it's a bit risky having both my female picks in the same tribe as one of the reasons also i've held off until this point but i feel good about her ability to potentially go far in this game to potentially be underestimated and she's got the charisma all that kind of stuff being in sales the one big fear i have is that if she gets into the wrong swap or she gets to emerge because she is such a strong female and even for the men they could be intimidated by that people sometimes are intimidated by alpha females it is just the way of life it's not good but we know that happens and that's why i was i've been nervous of picking her but i feel like if i have to leave her for any further in the potential of you taking her potentially you're taking someone away from me that could win the season very dominantly like i could see her being a kim spradling type of figure this season and i think she even talks about kim this is a good pick i think sort of like ellie it's kind of

40:23 She just has the vibe of like yeah she's probably gonna do really well but i think just like you said she does come off as like kind of like kim spradlin type like alpha female and people can be threatened by that for sure but if the you know trend of we've had two female winners in a row if that keeps on going then i could definitely see her doing well i don't think she's going to be like super big with the confessionals unless she wins then you know they have to give like this is a winner pick potentially and it's a high risk it's a it's a like it could go either way it's a flip of a coin it's a you know do or die twist yeah if we were doing this by the rules of last season she probably would have been one of my first picks but since but i think that she's more gonna be really well do really well with the game and less so with the confessionals so i think that's more why i went with the people i did ah fully get it i mean i passed on her twice because i knew i maybe have a chance of still having her come back to me but i just wasn't willing

41:43 To roll the dice for a third round here so i'm gonna take off the board but it's back to you here on the next one as we say hello to zulu man back in the life and let's have a look at zuriman saying hope everything is having a great safe week honestly off topic but i really have high hopes for the season the season's vibe is just really good to me zuma man that's what we want to hear because we're going to be talking about it the whole season both myself and jake want this to be a fun season as we're watching it but jake you know enough stalling you've got the next pick here are you going to go male or female for this next pick this pick is specifically because i feel like you might be going after him i don't know i might be wrong but i'm gonna go with mike i think he's going to be going by gabler during the season he yeah he's right there yep he i was on the wrong screen trying to move my mouse and i was thinking about him but there was one person that i was thinking about more than him that i'm probably gonna pick next but he probably would have been the pick after that if you didn't pick him so it was a good pick regardless so this guy could also be up there with running away

43:03 With the confessionals i think his very interesting one of the most interesting answers i saw was him when he said which that one of the past players he would play the most like was sandra yes and i just don't think you could you could choose two people that could be more different appearance wise than this guy and sandra so i think that's really interesting if he does actually end up playing like that's i think that's just interesting on its own i think that you know three words to describe them intense energetic fun you know i took what you said about you're going to want to pick the fun people is that what you said yeah 100 i want people that i like i'm i'm all for the characters over the strategy for me this season i want to just have fun with this season i feel like last time i was thinking about it too deep with the with the fantasy game but this is a guy that i just think i'm going to be i'm going to like a lot and he kind of the fun person won the person who had the most fun one exactly so if the trends continue as i've mentioned before there's a possibility and this listen this guy's all over the trailer he's all over the trailer he's been one of the first survivor players we knew they were going to be on this season because survivors really promoted him the whole time before the season even started

44:24 So clearly someone that they want us to know about like last season i feel like that was mike so he could easily be the mic of the season even if he doesn't win he's probably going deep and if he's going deep he's probably getting a lot of confessionals because he has a character you know when they asked him why would you win do you like why do you think he'll win sole survivor he said yes as his answer that's it like all of his answers on the parade was so close so it was just so it was so short like he wasn't really giving that much but you could just tell he's a character yeah he's a heart valve specialist have worked under extremely stressful conditions like i mean in the operating room for over 20 years so he's going to be able to deal with anything survivor's going to throw his way and i just think that he's going to be that fun older uncle not a dad but like the fun uncle because there's a difference between dad and fun uncle that's the one that you always dad's like roxroy last season you feel scared to do something wrong in front of that because he's going to give you a telling off but fun uncle mike gabler he's going to come around and cause havoc with you yeah he's going to be like he's the one that's going to come in and then go he's not the authority i don't think he's going to be that type of personality so i think even though he's an older gentleman i think he's gonna fit in well with this cast so i do like him as a pick and yeah i think he does sort of remind me of the other mic from last season when he says that he's

45:44 You know more sensitive than he comes across as i think that's a really good trait for these kind of older men because i feel like that's yeah that's a stereotype with kind of older men you know they're more like you know sturdy and like yeah you know they're serious and just not really like gooey and sensitive so i think that's a really good trait you know especially when people are so vulnerable while playing survivor it's really good trade to have yep no i agree with you 100 now all right so you've taken mike was going to be either my next pick or the pick after that depending on which way you were going to go i had two fun characters still left for me to potentially choose and i'm going to go with moira young for this next choice because she was going to be the next in line for me now she is 28 she's a teacher hobbies include shopping traveling creative content doesn't like any negative nancy's or debbie downers i think she's going to be a big personality just like her color is colourful her personality is going to be colorful so the longer she stays in the game the more confessional points i will rack up every single season and you can't even say she won't potentially win the show because isn't she a copy of marianne isn't she like potentially the next marianne type of character on the

47:04 Show now can lightning strike twice tony's already won twice it's possible so i'm not going to put it past this she could be you know if we're looking at the type of woman that have been winning the show in the last two seasons she fits the stereotype in my opinion i definitely see the resemblance to marianne i think she's gonna be kind of a more maybe like less nerdy marianne you know marianne is like i don't know what they really talked about on the show but she's like very nerdy like loves video games loves like books and stuff with mariah she's you know very energetic and colorful like marianne but more how do i say this like just not as nerdy i think maybe more like relatable to people you know obviously that wasn't an issue for marianne so that doesn't matter much but yeah i really yeah just being a i believe she's like a elementary school teacher so more dues with younger people but i think that gives her good like more she's more like sensitive and sweet and can you know relate to people more yeah i think we're doing really well with the tribe splits at this point as well

48:24 Only two people left here on the yellow tribe for the season the only two so far not picked is janine are probably going to mispronounce this yang or zhing and semi layedy the last two that have not been picked for this tribe but overall it's gonna be interesting to see how she fits in with this tribe where does she find her people but i'm hoping she does make it far because i think the longer she's going to be on the show the more colorful it will be the more fun you know it's going to be and that's a theme that i really want to i just hope the season delivers on that promise for us all to just enjoy it and take the show that little bit less seriously because there's a lot of people who are taking the show very seriously and then there's this constant negativity out there which i'm hoping we don't see a lot of this season but you know i'm probably being a little bit too optimistic all right so let's have a look at the next pic it's going to go back to you for this next pick who do you have as your next pick for the season and let me just get you back on the screen with your current pick so you can have a look at it there we go i think i'm gonna go with carla she is the she's

49:44 In the blue shorts blue shorts oh yeah there you go okay so kind of sticking with the theme i think she's gonna be very big in the confessionals i think she's a really interesting speaker i think that she's been as you've kind of mentioned with some of the other people she's been featured quite a bit in these trailers and you know that doesn't always automatically mean that they're gonna go far but it's always a good sign and let's see who else is on her tribe so this is the blue tribe okay see this is the thing i think we're getting more how many people do we have left that are that haven't been picked not that many just give me a sec i'm just quickly bringing carla up here on the screen so carla is in the cocoa tribe so wolfkala we've got cassidy joe james lindsey and ryan lindsey ryan and james have all been picked so this is the tribe that we haven't had the most people picked yet but obviously with you picking her it's pretty equal across the board at the moment with i think almost four people from each tribe so we're doing a pretty good job yeah i think i think we have two people left on each tribe

51:05 Yeah so yeah i'll get you on any more thoughts there on what carla's going to be bringing zuma came into the live saying that carla was one of his two favorites coming into the season carla and james yeah i think they're both i think she like zuda man says could definitely be more villainous and conniving and yeah she likes drama is the perfect when you're trying to get points yep and with this a game you know where confessionals seem to they're gonna benefit yep they're gonna matter i think that she is a good pick for that yeah listen i love the vibe she's bringing i think she could be a fun villain the fact that she said listen she grew up very poor and tough circumstances where she had to lie and steal in real life sounded like she confessed to crime on international tv you know but like it seems like she knows where she needs to go and dig into to be able to get ahead in the game and it doesn't seem like she's gonna have any moral issues with stepping over the line sometimes to get what you want so that's all positive from a game perspective not real life anybody listening to this i'm not endorsing crime

52:25 Outside a survivor but you know as a survivor it's definitely a good thing if she if she can do that but i think that the key thing obviously you've said all the things she could be great on confessionals she could be a fun character that we all get behind how is she going to stack up physically she says she's more physical than what people will give her credit for so i might be falling into the trap of underestimating her but again sadly giving her exactly what she wants yeah that's fuel to her fire going into the season the problem is sadly first impressions matter sometimes and you know will if her tribe loses the first challenge and she does struggle a little bit she falls behind she can't do some of the stuff does she become a an easy first boot because listen she might not be able to help us in future challenges so that's a real risk for someone like carla it's a risk that has been there for ages if she can get past the first portion and she can make her way to the merge she's the exact person that can go very deep and potentially do really well and when at the end she's got a certain amount of charm about her so even though she might potentially backstab people get them out of the game you know you might not feel as bad about it because she's got that charm i don't know we'll see it's going to be interesting to see how it all plays out all right so i believe it's going to come back to me and let me just get back to the picks that

53:45 We have so far everybody get a little bit of a view of that so in total we have got one two three four five six players still left to be picked at this stage we're very much getting into the pointy end and i do feel like there's potentially a couple of good picks still on the board here like it's funny normally we get into this part of the season and i feel a bit more low about the chances of people that are still left in the game but i do think there is potentially a few more people that could do extremely well let me just check here who i'm willing to take at risk on next it's tough not having that finger like you have to pick a male next or you have to pick a female next well it's tough because i came in here saying i feel a little bit higher on the men than the woman but i feel like a lot of those men have already been picked so i might just go and take a little bit of a risk on this next one and i'm gonna go for i don't know if i'm gonna pronounce this right it's gonna be nikki i'm not sure exactly [Music] yeah must be not sure we'll hear it when on the show yeah so sorry nikka if we're if we're mispronouncing that we apologize

55:06 Neca obviously being someone that is from nigeria originally immigrated to the u.s quite a long time ago so she works as a pharmacist talks about leveraging her strengths and her ability to adapt to a new country and learning a new culture and how survivor is going to be similar where she's going to put herself in a foreign environment with people potentially having to get to know what makes them tech you know and that she potentially can use that she's got a great smile which she wants to use to her ability and her power in the game to get through lies but the one thing she does say is that she does struggle with lie so that was like the one thing i was a bit nervous about because you're going to have to lie in this game you're not going to be able to get past lying yeah that is kind of why i avoided picking her i think she has integrity like she has a moral code that she lives by that maybe she there are some things that she won't do in the game whereas contrast that with carla who i just picked and i believe in the trailer she says she's like well the thing that i you know wouldn't ever do in order to win and then she pauses she's like oh actually no

56:26 There's nothing i wouldn't do so if you it's funny that we're picking these two back to back because yeah it's literally why i picked it's literally it's literally kind of why i picked her as well and also you know she's the same age as lindsay right she's 43. and i looked at the both of them and i'm like are the mom stereotype i don't know if i'm behind the mom's stereotype right now you know i don't know if that's the stereotype or the or the character that i want to shout for this season but she's the more fun one of the two for me like she just she's like if i had to choose one that i want to shout for because i feel like they've got good vibes and i'm not saying that lindsay doesn't have that she might go on the show and completely prove me wrong and be the fun one and nick might be the person who actually you know goes into her shell but from what i've seen in the preseason stuff i want to go for her she's got that radiant personality about her that maybe she just charms away into an alliance where people don't mind having her around and she doesn't look 43 she doesn't look like the mom she looks really good for her age like you know she's got their good jesus that's right you know and that's a nothing but a compliment and also obviously you know me gotta stay true to africa i'm from south africa she's from nigeria originally a little bit of buyers coming into this as well i wanted to represent yeah if i'm if i'm being honest if she wouldn't have mentioned that you know she kind of struggles

57:46 With lying i probably would have picked her over lindsay she probably would have been one of the top people i was looking at because you know she's been able to integrate herself into the united states coming from i'm not sure exactly how old she was when she immigrated i think she said it was like 20 years or something like that ago so she must have been like yeah there must be more than that surely because that would have made her 23s must be when she was i think it was when she was in the teens okay so yeah that makes it you know that's probably one of the toughest times to have to immigrate because you know you i'm not sure there's massive talking of someone that has been to obviously nigeria has got its differences to south africa but and also even in south africa there's different cultures and everybody looks different and there's differences within that as well but when you move from like africa like from our own experience if you've ever been in south africa and then living in america for a year it's definitely a cultural shock yes you watch movies yes you see a lot of the american culture through hollywood and through news outlets and all that type of stuff but when you get to america it's also very different from what people think they know by watching movies or by watching news you know like when you're actually on the ground so it would have been a massive experience for her and culturally

59:06 You can't get much different from africa to america it's two very different places specifically i'm not sure if that's where it says her hometown is texas i mean if you're gonna choose one place or one area in the united states to you know be as different as possible to nigeria it would probably be somewhere in the south like texas or florida or alabama i mean so that's impressive so i feel more good about my pick just by us having this conversation i feel like she's going to be able to integrate i think i've starting to slap myself a little bit aft after talking through yeah all right well that's fun i mean it's this is the fun part of this and anything can still happen let's be honest we don't know what's gonna happen on the season but it is gonna come back to you here with your next pick who do you want to take off the board as we start going into the last couple of pics here this is hard i think these cut these guys either i don't really have much to say about them or i don't have a lot of faith in them i hate to say that i think you know what watch one of them when clip disguise if anybody wins

1:00:27 From this point onwards this was jake's assessment of them yeah after aft i think i used up all my luck with the last draft of walking you know ass backwards into marianne so you know i'll go with cassidy she's the first one there cassidy all right tell us what you like about cassidy so again i think both of us kind of have a good mix of kind of the fun people or maybe not necessarily fun but just like kind of different and entertaining i think she's kind of out there from what i've you know from what i've seen she talks a lot about like being in tune with nature mother nature and like manifesting and yeah like she says i can manifest and create anything when i surrender fully to the moment and find acceptance in it okay i don't that sounds like gibberish to me but you know again survivor is such a different game than real life you gotta i mean some of the people that have won this game you find a wide variety of different people that have won so that's not a knock at

1:01:47 All it's just that in fact have we seen have we seen anybody from her archetype win this like who would be the closest to cassidy in the history of the show winning this show i don't feel like we have but i could be wrong i mean there's been a lot of winners i don't feel like we've seen it like it seems like survivor finds a way to we never saw marianne exactly it seems like survivor finds a way to like find one little archetype that hasn't succeeded and will have them succeed so the fact that she's been manifesting winning this show could work out well for her you see my problem with cassidy and why i didn't pick her up until this point and she's clearly one of the two bottom women still left in the game that i haven't chosen yet i've chosen most of the woman i feel like we'll have a look at that towards the end but my problem with cassidy is i don't know if she knows what show she's on and i don't know if she's there for the experience and trying to grow as an individual she just finished studying to become a designer she's like i don't have a job yet or a set career so this is the perfect time in my life to do this i kind of feel like she's trying to find herself and survivor is going to be that place where she finds herself that's her journey that's what she wants to get out of it but people with that mindset normally don't win the

1:03:07 Show you have got to be cutthroat because even marianne though she was a very different archetype that won the season she was there to play like you said she was a super fan she knew all the seasons you know maybe she was passive at times and i know people defend that and it's like no marianne was in it from the start there was times throughout that game in the middle where she disappeared but even though she disappeared she kept her eye on the prize and she was like boom here's my opportunity i'm going to take omara out now i can win the game she was she was you know there's that thing where they say you know luck is when preparation meets opportunity and that's really what marianne was she was prepared to take the opportunity to create her own luck in the game where i don't look at cassidy as the person who's gonna do that but this is getting to the point in the game i'm not criticizing your pick too much i would love for her to win this game i would love for anyone to prove us wrong but that's the reason i haven't picked her higher than i did i think i definitely agree with you that she might not know or be aware of when an opportunity like that comes about but knowing that you know this game that we're doing is a bit different where winning isn't everything or so points yeah definitely agree if we were playing by last season's rules i don't think i would have i think

1:04:27 She might have been towards the like maybe last i don't know if that would have so but i think she's going to be a good character i think that she could get confessionals if she's maybe like relevant to what's going on yeah listen i don't i don't disagree with you could definitely get you some points you've taken her off the board here so that's 100 fine i've got the next pick that i've got to make and now i've got to ask myself do i just keep going in this trend that i've been going do i go over to the other side oh man this is this is tough this is really tough i don't feel too optimistic about any of the choices left in the game so i'm kind of in the same boat as you but i'm gonna take one that i think could potentially and you might look at this and say geez what is he doing picking this person in the spot but this person could be entertaining for an episode or two and that's what i'm gonna tell you yeah i'm a big sammy in this export i'm gonna have to because i feel like out of all the people that are left he's the most likely to still get some decent screen time but i'm a little bit worried for sammy and let me tell you why i'm worried for sammy

1:05:47 Coming into the season firstly sammy's the youngest guy obviously you know 19 years old he already talks about the fact that people will underestimate him at their own detriment because he's the youngest guy coming in but i feel like sammy really loves himself really loves his own ability he's talking himself up to be this great player the problem that you have you know you're a pet cremator you get along with people from all different walks of life they're sad you need to console them and all that kind of stuff you're in a professional environment but if you're going to go into this game as a 19 year old and you're going to try and play a dominating game where you're going to run things i think you're going to get a rude awakening not a lot of people are willing to listen to a 19 year old kid you know and that's why i'm really worried for him i think he could be entertaining i think he could flame out in zayn night fashion i think he could flame out really badly but i'm willing to see where he goes like i'm willing to see if he creates some entertainment for us and i hope he lies about his age he does look older than what he is so if he tells them he's 23 or 24 i think he could get away with it jake yeah it's pretty crazy he was he's older than michael yerger was when he played he was on i believe he was only 18 or maybe he was 19.

1:06:58 I'm not sure anyways chris i'm a little this is the first contestant on survivor where as i'm watching it they are younger than me oh the same thing is happening in sports too which is super weird like the national basketball association in america they just had their draft a couple of months ago and as they were picking them i saw their birthdates and i was like how are these people already going into their life careers and i'm still in school anyways so i'm going to be a little high and mighty to say that i don't know i don't i just don't have a lot of faith in this in this kid i think i think he just loves himself too much and zuman says i really hated him from watching the arab and i haven't seen that because he sounded like a narcissist that's not good but like i think he could be entertaining because he's not aware of how he comes across this is my vote for who might crash and burn in the very first episode oh i think it's a hypo that's why i said he could be the zane knight but i mean listen if he gets that a little bit further than that

1:08:19 Awesome it's good he's going to give me points i'm pretty sure he's going to get confessionals yeah and one thing too let's see marianne was 22 i believe when she played i can't remember yeah because he wants to be the he's like he said it's a foregone conclusion he's going to be the youngest one able to win this thing because fabio is the youngest still right 21. i think him and jenna moraska are both tied for 21. no he's a couple of months younger like he's the youngest yeah okay like if you want to get technical but they were both were 21 you're right but fabio is the youngest yeah so he wants to like not just slightly beat that he wants to obliterate it by being the first teen to win survivor which might the bad figures if he is the first team to win survivor does jeff say see i told you guys we should get teens on the show no one is already pushing it i'm saying that as i like i'm actively trying to get on the show and i'm super young but i was about to say something i do not think that they will that he can win i'm saying it right now i do not think if he

1:09:39 If they know how old he is he will not win there is absolutely no way he can convince the majority of a jury to vote for a teenager there's no way unless this was an all teenager season or the jury was composed comprised of multiple teens or like super young people it's not happening based on what i have seen from past survivor players when asked about this specifically they say no i'm sorry they would have to play the most masterful game ever played for me to vote for them to win and i think fabio is as much as i love him i think it was a fluke in terms of that was the right people right time on the jury the right combination of cast if you were to simulate survivor nicaragua a hundred times that was the one time where fabio wins we were in a universe of the one out of one hundred yeah and i'm sorry i don't think it's gonna happen again but let's see let's see what happens we'll see i'm being really bold here and i think i just feel like i just don't even myself like if i were

1:10:59 On the show like i am not i do not have life experience i do not have you know i haven't interacted with all types of people i've met a few but like i just don't even if i don't even think i could win and i see kind of see like he's younger than me and like there isn't really anything that i've read where like stands out world like oh this guy's got a lot of light of life experience i just i feel like i'm being bold with this but i feel like i think everybody and like zuman has pretty much said the same thing he's not high on him i have said i don't think he's winning this thing i'm just hoping he gets three episodes in and gets me some good confessional points that's the main reason i got him in my team and we're getting to the pointy end here russell muscle welcome to the live stream this is the team so far slightly cut off heads on the pictures at the moment which doesn't make them too clear apologies for that i should know better i've done this i should act like i've done this for the fourth or fifth time but i will get this sorted after the live stream and when i've given it maybe a week or so for people to actually check out the draft first i'll post it up on the social so people can see who are in our teams and then for our weekly recaps it'll be a lot more clear as well we've got

1:12:19 Three people left on the table currently who of the remaining three people will you take i'm going to go with dwight tell us what you like about dwight you know i think he kind of reminds me of myself which is maybe doesn't sound good because i we picked him so late but i think that the first people that we picked i just liked more and dwight i really like i really like him based of what i've read i just don't i just don't get the vibe that's really all i can say is i just don't get the vibe that he's gonna to me he comes across as a he comes across as a bit of an academic you know like he's that kid that kind of interesting you've kind of summed yourself up to a certain degree i mean i don't want to assume i don't know you in real life to that degree i mean we've been doing the podcasting for a while and we vibe and everything but like he kind of seems like that person who grew up in a very academic household went to uni have always been in his circle of influence how well does he translate to people that are not as academic or you know in that circle like i just don't know he's young yeah he's got

1:13:39 A lot of street smarts but or sorry he's got a lot of books but not necessarily the street smarts and i feel like unfortunately i'm kind of the same way where like if i were to get on the show you know of course i'm going to say like yeah i'm going to win this you know i'm going to be confident in myself yeah if i wouldn't choose you if you didn't say that and that's also something that people that's also something people got to realize when they're like why is this person being so cocky because they think they're right when right they expect you to say that and honestly like i could see him winning like it's not out of the realm of possibility like of course he could win but like i didn't pick up his voice man apparently his like zoomed saying this is incredibly judgmental i really like him i'm really rooting for him but i don't like his voice i don't remember his voice his voice i will say when i first heard it i was like oh okay that's different than i thought he would sound doesn't fit how he looks yeah it doesn't really fit his face for some reason but shame on you zuma man for being so superior shame on you yeah come on superman no but he is seems like a bit of a nerd he could be physically strong he looks physically in shape right it's just i get you i mean it's not that we don't think he could do well he could be the

1:14:59 The shock of the season it's just he hasn't really given us much confidence yet and this is an old guy very little this guy is i think he's super sharp like he's a grad student i'm not exactly sure what in i believe it's computer science but which you know us engineers i'm betraying my in fellow engineers by not drafting him sooner but he i you know interacting with engineers at my internship and at school not sure i'd be too confident in most of them like one of the other things one of the other things he mentioned just while we i know we're going back and forth having a bit of a discussion about it but he also mentioned that he was hoping people would like him and that he would fit and stuff like that it kind of seems like he's insecure in himself so yeah you know you have said a few times you're insecure when it comes to your ability to go out there and dominate maybe there is a lot of similarities and he becomes that person that you're hoping gets past those insecurities and does well so you can live through him potentially doing well on the show so i think he's maybe an underdog pick for you but someone that you'll want to see go far in the season and surprise you and be that blue chip stock that you picked real late but they

1:16:19 End up getting you a lot of points yeah all right let's go back to the picks we are down to our last two picks here and you know what i'm going to continue with a trainee i picked four no three females in a row before i had my mail so i'm gonna finish it off with another female pick here i'm gonna take janine out off the table here she's the youngest person i've picked so far actually at 24 years old a user experience designer hobbies oh yeah sorry yeah you're right sammy's the youngest sorry yeah so two young people in a row so you corrected me there so yes any case so she's hobbies is backpacking photography and running she one of the things that made me worried for her was the fact that obviously she's the last pick of the season for me but the fact that she said she is an introvert and that she sometimes needs her alone space when she's having conversations she needs to reset and survivor you can't afford to have alone time you can't afford to go and reset you have to be constantly on and constantly in the conversation not to get blindsided so i am worried for her in that way but you know it's what are we picking here like it's yeah there's nothing coming to this point of the of the draft

1:17:39 We have to we have to be super nitpicky when we're you know so and you know we don't have a lot to go on so exactly and i mean i want i want a bottom pick to win because i love be i actually do love being wrong about this stuff but it's just yeah me too i don't look at i don't look at her and have confidence that she's going to dominate the season because she's young i don't know if people will take her serious enough [Music] yeah i mean i just don't know i mean let's have a look at the tribe she's in she's in baka so baka tripe with ali who i think could be a as my probably even though i didn't pick her i wanted to you just snatch this she's probably my pre-season winner pick at this stage i think she's very capable it's just with mike who's had a lot of air time in the preseason sammy probably has a good chance to be that person that could fall out but i can see potentially her and owen connecting right both asian americans they've got a bit in common there so if owen can take her under his wing and maybe have a good relationship with like a moira and ally then maybe you see mark and sammy falling out so there is options for her i don't think she's going to be the first one to go in this tribe let me put that out there yeah listen i'm totally with you i love being wrong about this kind of stuff like

1:19:00 I want to be surprised i want to be taken off guard about this kind of stuff if owen is the first one voted out of the season then i'm all for it you know like so i'm with you i pretty much agree with everything you said well i think that leaves that leaves you with one person left for the last pick right they were at the top geo this is very surprising i was not expecting him to be the last one left i feel i feel really bad about this right but i don't know why and it's a bad thing because you know like sometimes we look at people physically and we say okay cool we've got malcolm and owen this season there's physical similarities we can see them being somewhat the same or you know malcolm is like aussie or whatever i think because we just had romeo get to the end and do really bad sadly joe i know you're not romeo i'm not trying to stereotype badly because you're both latino you know gay men that are playing this game it's just i don't know why it's just romeo i didn't enjoy romeo last season and he wasn't good and i think maybe some of that came into the season for the pickings for both of us i don't know i

1:20:20 Don't mean it in a bad way it's just you know i think that's it i have to call myself out on it i feel like that's probably what you know after kind of reading his bio at right now i'm feeling a bit better about it he's one of those people where i just don't get that vibe you know as i've but again did i get well and also so also now i will blame joe slightly as well for making me think of romeo in this sense and he could correct me if i'm wrong but he did say in his video that you know watching survivor gave him confidence and to be proud in him being a gay latino man they could go out there and do these types of things because there were role models and survivor doing it who else outside of romeo did that there was a gay latino man it must have been romeo he must have watched the previous season so i don't know if he's an old school fan of the show if he's just someone new that got into it recently because romeo played the game that's what i don't know this guy it's kind of crazy how can uncanny it is how similar he is to romeo i mean he grew up in the in the hood honolulu hawaii is his hometown i don't know if that's what he grew up with is that no it says his hometown is miami

1:21:40 Oh okay no you're right his hometown does his hometown does say but also it says am i just making this up i oh no it says i grew up in the hood and was homeless for a period of time so and just yeah growing up gay in the hood is not easy as we kind of heard from romeo and the fact that they're both you know latino gay men grow up in the hood i mean it can't get i mean that's super similar but romeo was underwhelming last season i'm sorry romeo fans if you do if you're out there he was underwhelming for me but i will say this you know zudaman brings up a great point here where he says he went on to say i want to play hard to the point where someone else is telling me i'm playing too hard no one is going to tell you're playing to heart they're just going to sit back and be like let this guy dig his own grave i'm going to get out of the way that's not a good sign in my opinion so i think i think maybe there's a little bit of that coming in but also there was enough there for us to doubt and pick them any higher so that's probably why is there sadly someone you know if there's someone that's going to be first this season there's going to have to be someone that's going to get picked last and it's going to be him in the spot like

1:23:00 We said we would love to be wrong we would love for him to go out there and prove us wrong but that is it that's our team's dj how do you feel now that it is done do you feel like you got the people that you wanted are you happy with this yeah i'm pretty happy i think that honestly our teams are fairly even very even yeah so how many how many females that i end up with i've got one three four five and then i ended up with four so pretty much as even as you can get i mean and it's crazy because i wanted this the first time i've done the experiment was like listen let's not let's not go male female let's just go whoever we gravitate towards and it was like at one point i was going three females in a row and i was like wow like i'm just really vibing with them i don't i thought i might even like you sammy broke the streak there at the end i should have actually just kept it going for four in a row but yeah it looks like i was doing two females two males two females two males so yeah that's interesting i like i like this it made it a bit more interesting when we picked so for those that dropped in late on the stream and weren't here from the start we do have a point system this season so it's going to be different compared to last season where whoever won the season won out right and that was jake with marianne last season this season just

1:24:20 Once more i will put this up after a week or so when we start going through the week by week points we're gonna give points for confessionals one point team challenge wins three points they have to win the challenge outright they can't be second when it's a three team challenge individual immunity wins will give you five points making the merch will give you five points successful advantage players will give you five points finding an advantage will give you three points votes against you would be 0.5 for each vote runner-up for the season gets 25 points with the winner taking a whopping 50 points at the end we also have some bonus points that will be handed out at the end of the season for the player that had the most confessional points the most individual immunity wins the most advantages found and the least votes casted against them they will each get 25 points bonus as well it should make jake for a very exciting season and hopefully it keeps us on our toes right until the end to see who's actually going to win this thing between you and i it's been fun jake i can't wait for you know survivor to fully kick off and we're going to be back next week on you know friday evening at the same time so it should be 10 p.m i believe over in eastern standard time and we're gonna be back to talk about the first week and we'll do the points and everything and go from there i'm excited yeah same awesome well for those

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