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Survivor 44: Draft & Cast Assessment

Podcast episode · 19 Feb 2023 · 2 hr 1 min

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0:00 Foreign [Music] [Music] foreign [Music] [Music] welcome back to the nullify Tech channel here on YouTube where we've got the TNT takes for the very first time of 2023 on Survivor USA the franchise that started it all I'm very excited because I get to talk Survivor with a man that I have not been able to talk to in a minute because he's too busy studying at the moment Jake how you doing great it's good to get a break from like you said my studies and get back into Survivor because

1:21 It's been too long yeah like Jake has not watched Kahuna any Australian Survivor to date and he is a fan that watches all of the franchises but it's just been too busy and I say to him like I'm not overselling it to you probably the best pre-merge that we've had in years when it comes to Survivor would you say Kahuna that he needs to needs to get into it whenever he gets like a spare half an hour an hour to spare here and there it's one of those things where like I'm obviously incredibly pleased to be a part of the process while it's happening live but I'm also slightly jealous that Jake has this season of Australian Survivor ahead of him to watch and you can just binge it back to back and watch it go all the way through so yeah Jake you're missing out mate but going forward you've got that all ahead of you and it's going to be a good time I'm telling you yeah stay off social media because this season it is just popping off on Instagram Twitter there's so much talk happening about it so just try and have like blinkers on yeah luckily on Reddit you know they spoil spoiler tag it so I don't I just don't click on anything if I see that you know because I know that it's since there's no us Survivor going on I know it's Australian yeah I remember because when I first got into the show there was no season there

2:41 Was no season that was currently airing so I got to binge all of them and I kind of missed that you know I did like watching week to week but binging is also fun so yeah no fun when you're podcasting about it like I much prefer right I'm so grateful for Survivor us coming back being one episode a week like it's so much easier to digest put content out you know because you would have seen it like you know I've been popping out top five takes almost every episode then doing the recap so it's about four or five videos a week the only problem with the bins is that you've got 45 hours ahead of you yeah 100 yeah you need you need like a couple of weekends just set aside for that and I know Jake will be single if you did that so he'd be in a lot of trouble if he was just a bench yeah okay let's look to a few people here in the live Zoe left us a message very early on with a crying face saying it's 4am I guess I'm stuck on the replay crew for Now Zoe when you listen to this later on we so wish you were here hopefully in the future we did get you on a live we understand being from South Africa GJ Mack back in the live here as well seeing Chris and this is so cool I agree it's absolutely so cool because we just realized when we came live and we are fully representing all three franchises on this podcast so you've got me from South Africa You've

4:01 Got Jake obviously the OG USA fan and you've got kahunos from Australia so we're representing all three franchises on the podcast which I think is very unique I don't know if it is another show we did the global challenge before Survivor actually hit it themselves where Pioneers Trailblazers the Pioneers we're Pioneers I don't know anybody else has ever done this reveal these game changers game changers Christian girl it's been a minute welcome back to the channel and Jay also and the Harvester saying Chris and the Gang back at it again and Leah also welcome to the live stream here as well now we've got quite a bit to talk about because there is a new season upon us and it's going to be none other than Survivor 44 and here's a cast photo of everybody that's going to be on this cast a very difficult draft I think to do this time around because I had a look at all of these people and I've got to say no one specifically stands out to me where I can be like they're just gonna fail like this it almost feels like Jake there's some double gangers in some of these tribes this is like oh this person this person's interchangeable because they're kind of the same to be honest so I think it's going to make it interesting for us in regards to how we're going to pick do you have a strategy coming in Jake you're the defending champion yeah I think I'm just going to go back to my strategy that I used the past two seasons and that is wing it

5:22 Yeah it's worked for you so far as well yeah I yeah I you know I look at the cast profiles about the BIOS a little bit before coming in then just as it's going on just feel getting a good vibe from that one you know just go with that well we're going to start it off first here with the wheel of names I think it's going to be the easiest way to do it specifically because we've now got a new Challenger in Kahuna here as well what we're going to do is we're going to spin here to see who gets to select the order of the draft and it's going to be a classic snake drop so whoever wins this will say let's say I when I say I want to go first Jake is second Acuna is third and then we're gonna do another spin after that to decide who's going to choose it's going to be male or sorry male or female first or if it's just gonna be like last season Jake where it doesn't matter you can choose any we're going to do two spins here so first twin I think we'll do both students know whoever chooses the order has the ability to know who's choosing second as well all right let's have a look whoops Jake Kahuna [Applause] I think there was supposed to be maybe that was supposed to be Jake yeah quite a few of those let's just do let's just do another spin here obviously

6:42 A few of those all right you're right we just split the points well we do have actually a name this time all right so Jake you're gonna choose it's a rig system what we'll do is we'll do another spin here and that person will choose you might have all the power here that person will choose the third what the order of the draft's gonna be and if it's male or female or okay yeah so it's gonna be me for this one so Jake you choose the order okay I'm gonna choose if it's male or female when we do the snake draft or if it's just whatever and you go ahead first and you choose what order do you want to put us in for this draft I'll do Chris you can go first oh wow Laguna Kahuna you can go second and high go third so I can get two in a row all right well I'm gonna choose I'm I think for this specific draft what we'll do camera Focus what we'll do in this specific draft we will go male first so I'll have the first mail pick Kona will have the second Jake you'll have the third and then kuna you'll also have the first female pick Jake will have the second again and I'll have the third female pick so that's how we're going to go up and

8:02 Down in this draft let me quickly share my screen so what is the philosophy you approach a game like this with Jake what's your philosophy mate you're the champion you're the one he's winging it he's I'm winging it but you know I gotta look at you know because well I guess Chris are you gonna go into like what modifications you made to the to the point system yep let me just pull up the points that's a good point yeah but I will say I will say you know I think it was I mean I picked a gabler last season and obviously that it wasn't your first Facebook it wasn't even your first pick that was like it was like my fifth totally picked him for his ability to win by the way it wasn't just because I thought he was gonna be a goofball that was sarcasm if you couldn't tell I had I did not have much Faith so I picked you know I was like looking at okay who's gonna be like the characters and because you know that actually mattered quite a bit it's gonna matter again so here's the points so the criteria the criteria for this season is going to be one point for each confessional that these characters get five

9:23 Points for a Team Challenge win individual immunity wins will give you eight points making the merge will give you five points a successful Advantage play will give you 10 points finding an advantage will give you five points votes against you would be minus one for each vote against you the runner-up gets 25 points for the season and the winner gets 50 points there's also some bonus Point categories so most confessionals most individual immunity wins most advantages found lease votes casted against them for the season and most advantages played correctly for the season or get 25 bonus points so this makes it Kahuna very difficult to predict where the season's going to go because there literally is so many different ways you can get points it make look I gotta tell you guys coming into a draft with defending champion and someone as highly esteemed as yourself Chris for my first one I'm feeling like a rookie in a season of veterans and I'm gonna be running into some real trouble here because I looked at this right and I'm the type that I'm a bit of a nerd where I will examine things and I got so frustrated that there's no data there's nothing to look at all I've got is I watched the BIOS about a thousand times and like oh a Management Consultant hmm you know it's tough and I've watched

10:43 Every season of Survivor Bar two can you guess which two it might be 42 and 43. oh really yeah only two seasons you haven't watched so I watched winners at War I watched 41 and then I kind of got very busy and all I've been hearing is while I try to catch up on how to look at a cast is this new era of Survivor and people like saying that they're comparing themselves to these places and I'm like oh my gosh I'm walking into a freaking Hornet's Nest here against these two but it's gonna be fun and I think when I look at it there's a lot of high variants I said this here Chris via chat I'm either gonna go well or go bad and I don't know if there's a lot of in between but we're gonna find out and listen I don't know if you notice this Chris I've got my head and immunity idol necklace does anyone know what season this is from like I feel like I need to make it bigger so I could see that it looks like Thailand well the thing is I don't actually have any and this is just a replica of the movie Goonies from 1985 but I thought it looked pretty good I thought I'd wear it there's my fake I love it I'm not going to help you in this game I already got two of you with a fake Idol so yeah it's not gonna help you in this game it actually does look like one all right let's have a look at a few more of the comments here before I choose my first pick we've got hobbuster saying

12:03 Whoever gets Kane wins the draft for sure I like it but let's see let's see what happens I got him on my list I think the men on the seasons are going to overthink this season and I hope the season is good I actually have a different opinion like in the previous two seasons I came in Jake I felt more confident about the woman this time I feel a hell of a lot more confident about the men I think the men of the season are going to do really well there's a few women where I don't kind of know where to place them they're all like equal to me so that's why I chose to go men first having the power to choose if we're going to go men or women or if it's going to be any way we're going to go in the draft but we're going to do men then women for this specific one so without further Ado I'm gonna pick the first person I'm so glad I get to pick this person because this was the person right coming into this thing they're either gonna flame out really quickly they're going to be too much for people or they're gonna go all the way and do a Marianne and that's gonna be yam I'm taking yam off table right from the start absolutely love this guy's Vibe he's a salon owner you know so obviously knows to talk to people because salon owners are like basically bartenders where people come in there and they tell them their stories and things that's going wrong at work you know being pissed off with their spouse they have to be like a bit of a it's almost like a psychiatrist you know when they talk to these people and I like his energy

13:24 A lot of things stood out for me when I when I looked at him and I thought this guy either he's not gonna get along with everybody very well but I don't think that's a problem for him because I feel like English isn't his first language as maybe his second language which is another thing that I have in common with him so or people are just gonna absolutely love his energy plus that purple tribe looks stack to me to be honest so that's why I'm taking yam from the start Kahuna thoughts I love yamien or Jam I think it's a gem team I think it's genuine okay I love him I think he's a superstar for those who are familiar with Survivor Australia he's got that big personality he's gonna be and I just have that in my mind my frame of reference might be skewed because I know I'm just used to the edit of these big personalities that will be stars but not maybe not in the game I think he could be a physical liability perhaps and that might not do and I think I mean when I watched the trailer he was the last thing he was like the star at the end he said he's going to take a poop in the ocean and it's brilliant right I love that so much and I do think he's I'm gonna love him but you're right he's either going to go very far or go very early and I think one of his biggest issues might be in a six-person tribe if there's rain and the

14:44 Like on Survival we see they get stuck under the shelter for like long periods of time his big personality could come back to biting him in a situation where you can't get away from him I missed out on gabler last season I'm not missing out on another big personality we've had two big personalities one in a row and this is where you're at a disadvantaged Kona but the last two winners have both been and somebody's telling me it's pronounced Jam so it's both yeah so both last two winners have been big personalities I had him higher I wanted him on my team and I did have him I because I love him I didn't know if I was going to go number one pick but I did want him so good pick man good pick yeah Jake so also he's a big Surrey Fields fan we love that right because to refilled she's top tier top tier in my mind worse of course yeah I don't really think he's gonna play much like Siri no but he might be as lovable as Siri for sure it's a great pick I agree I don't think kind of like Kahuna I don't think it would have been my first but definitely was at the time you guys are gonna eat your words guys in the live clip this when Jam takes it out and he wins this season both of them are gonna eat their words but we're gonna go over to Kahuna Kuni you've got the second pick here for the season

16:04 First male pick for you where's your heart taking you where are you sort of gravitating towards it's really tough I don't want to give away because I'm you know deciding between a couple and I don't know if they're going to be up high or if I'm wasting a pick I've got my big boy if you want to share the if you want to share that knowledge with us like we wouldn't yeah I'm sure you know no sharing is caring again I don't know if this is a high variance pick either early or late because he's so young but Harry Potter himself I'm gonna pick Carson Garrett so number two overall pick and this is my thought process he I don't like 20 because he doesn't have the maturity for relationships and building and that sort of thing but he's very smart obviously being a literal rocket scientist and he's got that thing where I think maybe he's trying to do a Clark Kent he's like oh look at my glasses but then we see in the trailer he's got that secret buff thing going on wait like he took off the glasses and he's got his no shirt I'm like hey that's not the dude that was standing there with the pre photo shoot kind of thing but he I think he could go far and the thing that I found out in my nerdy like look looking for research is that he now has a website with

17:24 Merch before The Season's even started and to me that either says one of two things he's 20 and that's just what 20 year olds do when they get on a TV show or he's going pretty far because I don't know if you go to that extent when you're just there for an early Boot and you come up with your own website and your own merch and all that sort of thing I'm that's a bit of outside the game knowledge I don't know if I'm like using that to my advantage but that I was I thought that was weird and I'm gonna use it yeah listen you absolutely broke Jake's heart because Jake was 100 picking him first right Jake no you will oh yeah he's like literally listen I did a I did a cast reaction video that I'm gonna release this week and you think it's me I think he's you I was like this is Jake this is 100 Jake listening okay listen it I wasn't going to pick him no joke because of exactly what Kahuna just said because I found out about his merch website and was like oh no I was like I was like what he needs the money he needs the money yeah it's like okay he didn't make it so he's like he's trying to cash in on his seven seconds of Fame you know could be he didn't get a million dollars that's for sure he gave me a little bit you

18:44 Know what he was my second pick for the season but I did write down in breakfast I'm like oh no is he owe a night with this season because he's all over the shop he's all over social sort of promoting this season and Owen was the same and Owen caught me last season I was like ah why is he so confident why is he pushing this thing oh it's going to do really well and obviously he didn't do bad he went to the final but he was just there on entity he was a non-entity for most of that season so but I do feel I do feel good on this guy though you know he's a little bit of an undercover Potential Threat in the sense that you look at him and he looks nerdy he looks like he doesn't he's like he's jacked when he takes the show five though he's tiny he's tiny but he's jacked and like I mean if you look at some of the players to do extremely well they're not always the biggest guy eyes you know a lot of these challenges you've got to be in between if you're like a Jonathan which you wouldn't know who he is from a couple of seasons ago you're not good at keeping your balance or you know doing this endurance no so a different Jonathan big beast guy but anyway so you're not good in the stuff where you know like I feel like he could potentially do well at the physical stuff but have good body to weight ratio in the endurance stuff which becomes a big part of the game after the merch so I do feel high on him he's got good threat management too I reckon if he can project that nerdy Vibe without giving off the physical buffness yeah Jerome

20:05 Reckons you picked a pre-merge boot a freaking Jerome we got beef now oh man I said this is my reason and jayco's that's the absolute opposite reason why I'm not I'm like excellent yeah listen he does like you know he's a young engineering kid I believe he's the same age as me you know he's in aerospace engineering I'm in electrical is better but no but like you know I go to school I see the other kids that are that are in my classes you know I don't know if many of them are cut out for the for the game and just yeah listen they're the anti-social you know they're a bit different which is fine but and we'll see that again with somebody else on this season that is also yeah you know you know yeah and so but it's funny because you really you really liked Zach a couple of seasons ago did Zach like is that another reason in the back of your head you're like oh I picked Zach I can't pick Carson for this season well

21:25 That's good I think no listen because Zach was you know he was in he did like what was it comedy clubs and stuff so he had to be social you know he was he was he seemed very outgoing but you know he Carson is very you know very accomplished like getting an internship at Nasa that doesn't just happen to it that's crazy you know he's insanely smart you know but you know this is a social game you know I don't doubt that he could make some smart strategic moves but it's the social that really gets me yeah well Jake you've got the floor I'm mindful that we've still got quite a lot of people to go through here it's gonna be interesting to see how kuna's first pick for the season maybe I missed the booby trap there sometimes I feel like these drops can be like mine sweeper you know and you just miss booby traps because you're kind of talking me down on him a little bit Jake yeah who's your number one male pick for the season you know I'm actually I'm not too high on the on the guys this season actually Chris I'm not we're not aligned like for once we're not seeing we are usually like we're usually right on the same

22:45 Page but yeah this time I don't know because okay listen actually no I don't want to expose too much of my of my strategy thought process you know what okay I think I'm gonna go with Matthew not Matt Matthew he's the he's the guy on the bottom with the with the beard oh yeah also sort of Barber owner could potentially it's funny the both the barber and salon owner getting picked here in the first round when you look at when you look at their cast photos from here they kind of look pretty similar even though you know the beard and the vibe as well that's why I said before we went live I said I feel like each tribe has got a doppelganger let's see yeah they're choosing people that are like exactly the same yeah he's a good pick I want I definitely I was gonna pick him next if he was he on my where was he on my ranks while I'm just having a look here yeah it was my third pick so all three top three picks have been picked wow yeah inside so we are in sync we are we are but you know a little bit off why is he so high for you guys well see I like I like his I just like his Vibe you know kind of similar to what you were saying about I guess it's Jam being a salon

24:05 Owner yeah he's got to be social and I just like his you know just as a as a person you know reading his bio you know he's talking you know he's gay he kind of struggled with you know coming out of his shell figuring out who he was you know I just like people like that so I think he could get you know some pretty good air time and he yeah kind of like he's saying you know he looks like pretty physically capable as well 100. isn't he the guy in the preview though that injures himself when he climbs up the Rockies yeah that's why I was picking him because I heard I heard this is the only rumor I've heard I don't know anything outside of that but I think it's a very well-known rumor and if it's true or not I don't know I heard someone gets midi back this season so hopefully they didn't spoil it thanks for telling me after I picked obviously I was gonna I was still I was still gonna pick him I was still gonna pick him food yeah because I just think that they wouldn't make it that obvious surely right they were making that obvious that's true that's true if you pause the trailer you can see it probably wasn't him oh okay so I didn't pause the trailer it's like who knows coming in with a strategy I don't know if it's a medievance showing an injury whether it was him or another but Matthew for me and why I thought he was going to go high you

25:25 Mentioned the thing falling off the cliff which is ridiculous but it took a minute of like the two minute trailer he was it was the Matthew show for like so long and why I thought yammy and it started the entire thing started with Matthew climbing these rocks talking about his life and his kids and his husband and then the big fall he gets that story to start and then to end the trailer was the was Jam so I was like I gotta get these two somewhere in my team and both of you have grabbed them and you got neither he was going to be he was going to be top three regardless because he shouted out my man bendry Bergen so you know when you shout out Ben drebergen as a player that you want to play like I'm all in I'm with you know Ben needs a bit more love in the Survivor Community Jake who's your first female pick for the season this is where we get into the meat and potatoes now because you mentioned that the females are the ones that you feel strong about yeah I would say I feel more confident about them okay I think I'm gonna go with Claire she's the fourth one there no this is her yep oh man yep am I just taking all of your all of your people yeah I like playing good pick good pick man yeah I just I like her personality she seems

26:46 Pretty strong like pretty strong-willed like female power type person which I like you know I think we're kind of do with for like a more like dominant female winner because the past two female winners we've had they were good but they didn't they weren't like strategic you know Powerhouse ones you know so I that's part of the reason that's you know I just more hopeful I guess for that but also I just I like her you know she's just very she kind of checks all the boxes she seems fit she seems like she's got good personality seems outgoing but also she's kind of nerdy so I feel like she could like kind of relate to you know everyone on the cast I just I think she's she'll do good checks all the boxes so I'm a bit lower on her than you guys I had her at number seven on my picks and the reason that you know she stood out to me a little bit is that she mentions that she's always been an outcast in every single situation that she's been in and I'm a little bit worried that in that case in a game like Survivor if you become that Outcast very early on because you feel like you can't connect with people or you're struggling to make that

28:06 Connection you've got that chip on your shoulder coming into the game it could really give off a certain type of energy that may be a standoffish to other people out on the island so I'm a little bit worried for her you know obviously she's got a mix of a lot of things going on being Jewish being a Jewish queer girl because obviously growing up in that Community you know Jewish people in general are very religious couldn't have been an easy upbringing for her and I understand that's something that would have made her a bit of an outcast but I'm really worried that if she doesn't find her people Kahuna and she goes into that pattern that she's had her whole life that she could struggle Leah said that she's pretty and I do agree she's definitely one of my crushes for this season well there's I've got one major crush this season that I will tell you guys when I get to her I don't know if I'll pay picker first because I don't know if she'll win but she's a definite Crush of mine I think for this season and she's now Rogan this season Chris there's no road yeah listen there's no Mucky on this podcast we don't need to go there I like Claire I did have a high because again like how do you even what are you basing after I don't know it's just a quick First Impressions but the thing that really got me and I thought was very strange is that she's a 25 year old venture capitalist how does a 25 year old have the money to provide other people money for their projects

29:27 And their things that's every single social media influencer these days you just create it's like somebody creating an Instagram profile and saying that they're an Instagram model well I play Call of Duty so I'm a soldier in Call of Duty like everybody can be anything they want these days let's be well I thought it was either she's like either prodigious and like some young amazing person or she's probably got a lot of money from her parents I don't know which one here goes and either I don't know how much true for saying this I don't want to blow up her spot but I don't know either but Adventure capitalist at 25 is crazy like you don't you honestly usually only be against capitalist after you've sold your first company so you have the money then seed into other ones but other than I do like her a lot I had her quite high and I'm sad that she's not on the tape on the board anymore good pick again yeah Mary here says to pick female winners you have to choose the least assertive calm demeanor cheerleader type I think that listen I think that's a conversation Mary that a lot of people are not ready to hear or that they dislike they dislike the reality of it but a lot of female winners in general have been like that but then you also have the boss girls that come out and dominate they're just few and far between those are your poverties your chem spreadlands like Sandra she had a bit of a bite to her but I do feel like she wasn't as assertive sometimes

30:47 And she was in her winning games she was happy to be anybody but her so I think that's a very interesting comment that you've made to be honest but yeah overall again I don't know I didn't I didn't see it as high I think there's a few other picks on the table here that potentially could do better but none of us know any better kuna where you going for this next female pick I'm the opposite I'm like you Chris I don't know how to pick with the women to be honest with you I think again each of them could be so high variants and there's a couple that I was tossing up am I done you took yeah Jam as your first pick and there is to me there's a female Jam that I think has been huge and I don't know if she's gonna go the very first episode or sit on trial man but I don't know I don't know I'm just I'm talking about the course about Caroline and because I've already mentioned I can't now just think it out loud and put it back because that might no you're all going to know where I'm at but thank you I'm taking her she seems like she picked up a rock and rubbed her face with it like an actual rock and when you have someone like that I think they're gonna give her a lot of screen time and the fact that to me when I watched

32:07 The trailer there was like three or four people that got all the shine and I thought America doesn't do that like Australia does they'll just give you three and ignore everyone she's gonna be on everything she's gonna be all over it yeah I heard that she plays orgs oh really yeah and I've heard that as well she's the other one with the merch website so this is a merch website too she's got a merch website so I don't know if my logic is flawed here but I'm hoping that plays I could crash and burn but being a drug counselor as well she seems like a crazy loud personality but if you're in that industry and unlike a lot of these other jobs where they tend to talk up their titles a lot I think if you're just a drug counselor you need to be able to get people to trust you and share vulnerabilities and really like hard things and it might go against what they're showing us in the trailer but if that is her literal profession and she's doing it for a long time then there's going to be some social skills that we're not seeing she could either really annoy people or probably do both really annoy them but also be able to drag information out of them and really build trust and relationships I'm hoping that's where I'm leaning I could be completely wrong with that one yeah but Carolyn okay you guys are going in

33:27 A completely different direction than what I thought with the woman which is good it's good that we're seeing slightly different at this stage I think Carolyn potentially could be a big character I don't think I again she could be I didn't think Marianne was winning her first season when she played because she was and I think that in a lot of seasons and I think people are not ready to hear this Marianne doesn't have a chance because she goes into a different tribe where people get annoyed with her very quickly and they don't have her back in the voter out very quickly but she was lucky enough that she got into a tribe where people were very tolerant of her energy and what she brought to the table I think Caroline or Carolyn could very easily fall into a tribe that really gets annoyed with that higher energy that she's got and they could very easily vote her out early on but I do think you'll get a lot of confessional points early on I do think she's got a lot of grit to her the fact that she is now drug counselor struggled with addiction all that stuff is very motivational and she wants to show people that you can clean your act up and come into the game and you know be a role model I did find it interesting that she needed permission from her kid to go and play the game like it was almost like she needed someone to tell her you know go and do it like to give her that Assurance so I don't know if that's something that she needs quite a lot like positive information when she's out there she's not going to get it I don't think in Survivor if she's out there because people are going to try and take her out but yeah it's an interesting one for me she was number eight on my rankings oh my

34:47 God I'm so screwed number eight no listen I didn't know that she was I don't know that she was an old Planet I don't know you gotta you gotta remember Kahuna that Chris has lost the past two oh no hey the last one the last one hey I'll never forget because you're always there to remind us isn't it Jake yeah I'll be the check-in I'll check in on me on Chris make sure you remember no but Jake's recollection is as credible as Claire's saying that she is a venture capitalist to me you know like same level of credibility you think she's inflating what she actually does for the show I don't I don't know like listen I don't wanna I don't want to blow up her spot but I mean anybody can create I don't know like an account and start investing these days and call themselves an investor right I'm an investor as well if I wanted to say I do that stuff as well I just I mean do I do it with hundreds yeah a couple of thousand dollars here a couple of thousand dollars there you know but you can inflate it so I don't know like maybe she is yeah also I think we're seeing a pattern as somebody pointed out in the check who is picking everybody that has merch available so far he's trying he's trying to get something now I've run out no

36:07 I don't know what to do next maybe it's like a manifesting each person that you pick is going to come out with merch right after this well Leah's saying even if she's not the winner Greg professional points and I agree with that's true yeah all right anything else you wanted to add about Caroline Jake or should we go on to my first female pick and why I should tell you guys why you've been missing out take the floor Chris you is this your crush this upcoming no not by not by crash not my crush yet I'm not gonna go in that direction I'm not gonna let my you know feelings for this person that I've never met in my life gonna take over I'm gonna I'm gonna go with my head and I'm gonna choose someone I've got a high-risk person yam this season for me I'm gonna double down on high risk and we spoke about this a little bit more you know Jake earlier we said you know there's a lot of females out there that play this game they don't win it in a dominant fashion this person does want to win it in a dominant fashion but if they don't they could burn out very quickly and I like what I heard from her and that's going to be Maddie I look at Maddie coming into this season as the Ellie of last season so it could either work really well or she could misread the room think she's more control of the game than what she is have this master plan already concocted in her head for how she's going to get to the end and it blows back in her

37:27 Face but I really like the fact that she was saying she's a middle child she had to learn to play a life where she was one step behind and wait for the right opportunity to come out and take control which is what she wants to do in this game she wants to lay just behind the person who's got the power in the game maybe be their lieutenant and then at the merch she wants to play a very aggressive game she said we hear about females and I'm tired of hearing about it all the time like people saying well I want to play like Erica because she had this great game and I think to myself what game we didn't see it like you know we did not see anything that she did out there they showed us very minimal game we just have to take the word of other people that were out there the chat this great social game which she probably did have but I want to see it I want a some girl to go out there and be the next poverty or be the next Natalie Anderson or be the next Surrey Fields I feel like we haven't had that big strong female character like we have over in Australia with Hayley for instance in a very long time so I'm hoping she can follow through with what she's preaching when she goes out there in the game and that she can take control the problem is if people don't buy into it like with Ellie they'll get rid of her very soon either just before the merge or at the merge so it's very hard to play that kind of game and make it to the end and then one other thing that really stood out for me with Maddie is that she said that Survivor taught her how to play the

38:48 Game of I think it's white color America and how to move within companies and get her way up work her way up the ranks and I think that's something that I sort of relate to a little bit actually it wasn't it was a different girl that said that sorry I'm mixing my two goals up I'm mixing my two girls up but he stood up to me maybe but may not be either all right so I like Maddie but I think kind of what you thought of as a positive oh it's hard it's highest yeah I think that being too set in one playstyle is not good in Survivor because you think it's gonna go one way it's not it's not gonna I guarantee what you think is going to happen is not going to happen no that's very difficult and she is she is kind of young but also one of the other things sorry I know I'm interrupting one of the other thing that's really cool is that when you see that something in life isn't working for you too many people will not change up what they're doing she just left the job to go and play Survivor which tells me she's a risk taker and the new game of Survivor is all about taking risks are you going to put your hand into that pain to get the beware Advantage I think she does I'm just hoping she's not another Dreyer that don't know what to do with those advantages when she gets it I don't know that is but yeah

40:09 Yeah I think what you're saying there is there's a fine line right it's delicate between being a risk taker and being a rash person who makes incorrect decision who jumps without looking and realizing the consequences of not having a job after your two weeks on a show like this yes you know does that personality type work in Survivor I don't know or do you have to be a little bit more well Tony won twice by playing high-risk Survivor by taking it Tony's also a police officer has to be very disciplined and also inconsistent would you would you I'm telling you this like if you were in her position and you got the opportunity to play this game for a million dollars are you telling me you wouldn't make that jump you wouldn't say listen well I'm just gonna jump again she was an executive assistant yeah get the hell out of it take Survivor one of my yeah it depends on what it is right like one of my biggest things is if we go on reality TV have you ever seen MasterChef the early episodes where they're getting on the show and they're like I'm an I.T consultant making 500 000 a year but I just really want to cook so therefore I'm here I'm like no but sure executive assistant go on Survivor and get you get that I don't even know what executive assistant it's

41:30 A secretary it's like a it's a secretary to like a c-suite like a c-suite executive like a CEO or CEO they get paid decent money though they do get paid decent money when you get to that level and the thing is though she's young man she's 28 she's got a whole career in front of her this could potentially depending on what she wants to do could blow up her career in a different direction but I listen I said I'm coming in here this time I'm not holding my punches Jake I'm going for broke I'm either losing all of my people before the merge or I'm winning this freaking season because Survivor 44 is a monster and it's out there to get you and if you don't get them to bring in the monster back I guess I'm bringing the monster back did he am I crazy did he mentioned the Monster probes did in the preview did he even if I he might be back on that and I was like we're back on this like what is going on okay I've got the next pick here and geez man my fourth pick is still on the table I didn't expect him to be on the table and I'm a little bit worried that he could go very good or bad [Music] I'm just gonna go for it I'm gonna choose Matt blackened ship I believe next that's my next business so he's a software engineer

42:51 He does security penetration testing for big organizations so basically trying to see if he can hack into it and then yeah it's a really cool job and then he sells like we've had people try and do that to my company before where they're like oh we're going to try and see if we could steal stuff and then they sell their services to you to say we got in but we can teach you how to keep other digital robbers outside of it I think it's a cool job I think that you know him saying that going out there on the island and seeing alliances and how they're operating and then looking for those little bits of pieces of information that's not secure that's not encrypted and that he can grab to drive wages in between alliances I think he could be a very fun and villainous character this season the big problem that I have with him is I don't know if he's more Eric Reichenbach all of these more you know Johnny fair play I don't know which one of the two years coming into the season and if he's Eric Reichenbach we're in trouble if he's Johnny fair play maybe I get like a little bit of fun villainous confessionals you know him being a character out there so it could go either way for me here but I'm also hedging my bed because in previous Seasons What I've Done sometimes is I've gone for people from the same tribe only and now I've got representation across the board so I'm spreading my chances by having someone from each tribe early on here from purple orange and green in My Tribe what do you think about that

44:11 Move Jake hmm yeah I was not I think you kind of went earlier when I was when we were talking about Carson and I was like there's another engineer on the season was it was yeah so I just think he's just kind of you know and this could be like he could have this storyline of like I was awkward but then Survivor I was able to grow out of my shell so he could have that and that could get him like a lot of confessionals but he's just in terms of like winning the game I wasn't too high because I he kind of gives off that like anti-social software engineer vibe that he's like he just like his own kind mate no there's two top two Tops still on the board here so it's still open for you guys to this topics it's interesting seeing some of the comments come in here Dolores saying was there really a monster before this may be a true year of the monster and then I think who's I also daughter was saying so his skills are looking for the edge and making it work I just want to see if you can actually translate that but also again he is a day one fan he's been a fan of the show for a very long time

45:31 You know listing Yule is one of his favorite players I love you as well but he didn't give me your Vibes though he didn't give me the vibe like he was going to play like IL Kona no a very different vibe like Yule was just so logical and methodical and although logic is going to have to be a big part of the way he thinks being in the industry that he is he's talked about just being goofy and failing a lot and I think I can't be I'm not 100 sure but I think in his own interview he mentioned that a comp for him would be Eric he said that he would compare himself to Eric which is the weirdest thing because I don't know I kind of like that I wonder if he's playing it down a little bit I actually am the opposite to what you were saying about Jam I don't like when people say I'm like Siri I'm literally one of the best players to ever play this game in the history of Survivor and that's how I'm coming on as a rookie but he's got a little bit of self-awareness whether in the American game you need that the attitude you need the confidence you need that dog about you and he I don't know if he has it or if he's hiding it he could be the dog that is a big like Labrador puffy like this fun and that sort of thing a bit Goofy and it may not translate to competitiveness but his profile he said that the one of the things that he's

46:52 Got is that he is Goofy with a strategic brain and very competitive and I saw that again very little information to go off in pre-season they talk about their hobbies and accomplishments and one of the things that he's done is run a marathon so he looks like he could be that wiry athletic nerdy type that could really work well for him as well so we'll see I like that's an interesting that's an interesting combination that Leo's bringing up here saying that he wants to play as a mix between you and Marianne I saw a lot of people saying that they want to play like Marianne this season which if can you imagine if we end up getting like eight people in this cast playing like Marianne Jake how entertaining this season's gonna be that would be that would be fun I'll bet you I'll bet you everything I have that the Producers had them watch 42 like before they came or something yeah because yeah there seems to be a lot of chatter around Marianne well that would I know Jerome I'm going for breakfast season I'm just putting everything into Risk Takers this season it's either gonna fail miserably or it's going to be fun to see them go out there and you know get done what they're saying because it's one thing to say you're going to do this but it's never to actually go there and do it and I do agree with you kuna it's tough because you know sometimes they do mention these Legends of the game and you know all of us want to be like the legends of the game and I'm sure the producers egg them on as well like which legend of the game do you think you can play

48:12 Like you know so the key is Jake to go out there and say you want to play like Zane Knight but Zayn Knight that goes out there for a second try and that has learned that you if you try and vote yourself out of the game you're going to get yourself voted out of the game so you won't be there today night you know the one that's learned from his mistakes pick a pick a player that doesn't exist yet it manifests them into existence and then be them yeah 100 that's a good plan yeah all right Jake you're next who's your sorry Kahuna your next who's your next the top of my board is gone right the top half of my board is completely gone so this is tough yeah there's a few of them that are very similar and that's why I've stayed away from the people that I feel are like vanilla Bland almost the same as each other on the cast right now I'm staying away from them because it could be either one of those two that end up doing well okay I'm gonna I'm gonna pick one here that I'm a bit I'm a bit worried about he wasn't that high on my board but I've been watching Chicago Fire lately as a run through I'm up to season seven and I'm loving it and there's this thing that Americans seem to have about fire brigade for some reason I don't know in Australia we have five people we just don't like hold them up on this weird pedestal that the Yanks seem to do

49:34 It has to be right like it's weird how much they revered but Danny Messer has a lot of stuff going against him in my own book yeah 100 he's playing in the wrong era he's playing in the wrong era of Survivor if he played like 10 years ago I think he would be a hot favorite for a lot of people coming into the season gives me Jonathan Vibes I know you don't know who that is Kahuna but very much so yeah I like the firefighter and MMA as a hobby makes him incredibly physically capable so I think he gets through to at least emerge he said in his own thing that he's worried that he might come off as a bit of a jock dude bro kind of thing and I hate that especially in a game like Survivor but he's also said he's incredibly nice and kind and trying to overcompensate with that so maybe that'll help and like I said I think he might have that everyone's gonna love him and thing but maybe not strategy but he could get dragged along pretty far as a number perhaps and as a as a physical help at least in the start I don't know how far he gets but like I said the top of my board's gone and I'm gonna go with the firefighter yeah Bronx let's see so yeah so Jay's saying him Mike did while in 42 though Chris and I agree I think the reason Mike did well though is because he was an older gentleman that learned a lot from his lessons and

50:54 I think it's hard to compare anyone to Mike because Mike is such a lover of life and wants to get to know people on a deeper level and such a great social player that I don't know if Danny's got that but I will say one thing there's only one person that reached out to me prior to the season starting and connected he hasn't spoken to me but he connected to my Instagram account and that's Danny he's the only one for the account so one of the two things he's either gonna go out there and he's gonna bloody play his socks out and have a great season or he's going to get taken out in a glorious fashion and he's looking for a podcast to come and talk about it to defend himself no this is how I was actually a genius come to come to Papa Chris's arms I will be that listening ear for you I will let you vent all of your dissatisfaction with the monster out there in Survivor 44 you can come here I will listen to you with the audience will want to hear about it but in all seriousness you know I Danny was one of those guys I think I had him ranked eighth between sixth to eighth there's a bunch of players that I have at exactly that same ranking I was like depending on where you guys are gonna go I'll put him out he's going to be a beast full of Challengers he's physically very strong I like his complicated background and the fact that he was bullied as a kid and that is why he became this gym person because

52:14 I feel like a lot of the times these days online people hate the alpha male anything strong like if there's a strong male model a strong role model for men out there people just hate it and it's automatically seen as toxic and all this kind of stuff I just want to say to people before the season even starts remember where this guy's origin is he was that kid that was bullied he was the one who went out there embedded himself to get into physically great shape and now does a very honorable job in being a firefighter and saving people on a daily basis so being in Jiu Jitsu having a martial arts background myself being in karate having done that for years I get the discipline that it takes and the type of person that it creates when you do mixed martial arts it's a Brotherhood so just based on that alone I've got his back I'm just worried that he's playing in the wrong era Jake I'm worried that people now don't want to give it to the brochacho they don't want to give it to the male alpha male guy very often if they get to the end it's going to be a very difficult one for him to go out and win yeah I actually was contemplating picking him for yeah I feel better yeah because yeah I just like I kind of like I mentioned earlier I'm not super high on the guys this season that's a good comparison by the way yeah I think I like him more than I think he's

53:34 More Cody I think he's more Cody personality wise like I feel like he's got a personality yeah and also I know earlier I mentioned he's kind of like Jonathan which Kahuna if you don't know Jonathan he was this like challenge Beast guy he literally in his preseason interviews only talked about challenges he did not mention the social or strategic aspect of the game a single time but then he was in strategic he was yeah it wasn't bad strategically so I like that Danny is at least he's mentioned in his in his interviews like yeah Survivor is like a it's a social game it's a game about The Human Condition so he seems a lot more self-aware in that so this is Jonathan for you for your second this guy was probably the biggest most physical person we've seen on Survivor since James Clement played the game back in hers versus the last time James played I told you were revealing James laughs yeah but I feel like he had more game than James in all fairness I really feel like Jonathan had more game than James I feel like a lot of this game wasn't shown because he wasn't winning That season from what I've sort of picked up let me get back I think the dude bro athletic thing is very much in the personality right just because someone's physically

54:55 And I don't think he's huge he didn't look like he's particularly tall not like other guys on the on the in the season but I think it comes down to that personality and the fact that he's at least aware of that's how he may come across because how many like of those guys come on the show have no clue of self-perception of how they're coming across to their tribe mates or the he's coming at least going I think this is how I'm going to be perceived and therefore I'm going to act accordingly to make sure that's not the case and if he can pull that off and he's got the you know he's got the physical to go with it he's got that personality where he's going to be super friendly I don't know I hope and also he's been that kid he's been that kid he's been the unpopular kid he's been the kid who was bullied so he's got a different dimension to himself where he can go in and say I get you I get that you feel like you're on the outside but I used to be that kid as well let's work together let's form this Bond like I do have I think there's a lot of upside like I mean like I said for me it was a toss-up between him and two other people at this stage of the draft but Jake I am interested to know where you're going with your second nail pick here ah yeah okay gotta remember my strategy just Wing It All right so I have two people that I'm trying to decide between one of them's kind of throwing me for a loop

56:16 It's gonna be interesting the chat definitely has one specific sort of yeah I know and I'm not I'm not going you're not falling for the chat do you reckon the chat's trying to sabotage you Jake no I don't think so I just think they're I just think they're thinking the wrong way okay no offense I'm gonna go with Brandon he's the he's the first one there oh yeah Brandon yep and it's funny because someone just brought up Jay just brought up in the chat interesting point of view and I think it's about the alpha males Chris but I feel like if Denny from 41 made it to the final story I think he could have won even though he was an alpha male it is very true so you got me on that one I think Danny again is someone that was very soft-spoken was really good socially even though he isn't alpha male he didn't act like an alpha male if that makes sense so I think that you're right he would have won but it takes a certain type of alpha male to win the game I'd say and it's not impossible you just you need to be a little bit more in touch with your emotions and have that social awareness which has always been a thing really if you think about it but yeah no that's a good point just go on the challenge you can win that instead yeah I mean if only Denny did that right if only he went to the challenge if only he was competing on the challenge World Championship that starts from March yeah you

57:36 Know if only he did that all right Jake give us your thoughts why did you go for Denny's doppelganger you know what's so funny is that's exactly that's why I picked him it's because he reminded me of Danny and I feel like he so Danny in 40 41 obviously we didn't do the podcast together when that season aired but I feel like if we if we did I probably wouldn't have been too high on him coming in outside probably and so but he proved me wrong and I get even I get that vibe from Brandon because you know he was also a former NFL player but Brandon seems like he's a massive fan like from what I've seen and he like and I don't think correct me if I'm wrong I don't think Danny really was like I think you know he likes the show but he wasn't like a super fan super no he was he was a he was a fan he was a fan because remember he was the one who called Jeff Probst out on The Hourglass twist to the point where he the reason that The Hourglass twist did not make its appearance again all was removed was one of the reasons was Danny saying that it affected the Integrity of the show and what the show was about and he apparently followed it for years so he was a fan of Survivor his wife Kiki was a fan of the challenge so he went on the challenge for his wife Kiki

58:57 If you didn't know he kept saying Yeah I've heard the joke that like yeah he just mentioned his wife like every two seconds because she was such a big fan of the challenge you know so he's like you know he would freak out if she knew I was talking to TJ for instance you know but again like he was a fan so all right so then they're even more similar than I thought yeah Brandon he just seems like a complex guy like he talks about like he does like magic tricks which is like I don't know he just would never know that from just looking at him he just seems like even though you know people may think that like oh NFL players like you know they're like kind of like celebrities I guess they may not be able to relate too well I think he could and I think Danny was able to do that very well too so yeah and I just the guys this season I now that I'm thinking about it I think I'm maybe I would have picked Brandon first instead of Matthew looking back maybe I was underestimating him so it's interesting because I don't know where Kahuna you placed Brandon but coming into this I mean I could have been seeing this wrong but there was one big red flag for me on Brandon and I put him mine on my on my rankings but based on this

1:00:17 One big red flag firstly you know one of the real ironic things about him is that he works in security and when I watched the reaction video you'll see it in my reaction I was like oh yeah it makes sense he's a bouncer because he just comes on he's big and he's like no he's a cow management he sits on the phones I'm like you're wasting your talent mate you need to be you need to be out there you need to be out there by the doors keeping people away from getting into the club you know because no one's gonna mess with you but you know the big thing that stood out for me and where I'm worried for him is that he basically to me looks like a slashy and I feel like slashes don't do well sometimes on survival when you've done so many different things like he's a pilot he does this he does that so he's gonna be that guy who wants to put himself in the hero role for a lot of things and he might be good at a lot of things but he's gonna have a massive Target on his back very early on because he's physical he's going to continue to put his hand up to do everything he's possibly going to think he's the best at everything that he does because in life he is and Survivor your streams become your weaknesses and your weaknesses becomes your strength right so I am very worried for him that people will get annoyed with him being that person that knows everything and wants to be everything and I could be completely wrong I saw him for what less than 30 seconds when he spoke but I got that vibe that he's not like Danny and that says because Danny is humble and I think that is one of the things about Danny that really

1:01:37 Ingratiated him with the rest of his tribe Kahuna I had I had Brandon in the middle at him at fifth and I think for me again I feel like I'm out matched in this game but to me he was one of those guys that in a six-person tribe you need that strength early there's no hiding so they're going to ride him to the merge unless you have Evie in your tribe right Jake then you don't care yeah that you need you need that guy early on I think anyway and I hope that'll probably get into the merge and then once you're at merged you're gone because people go well he's gonna win out from here and that sort of thing unless he's really pushing like as far as you know personality clashes and that sort of thing but I don't I don't know if you'll have that the NFL like not necessarily celebrity but the rich person tag you don't need the bunny kind of thing like he must have only played for like I didn't look into it he might have just been like a near for like a season got in jail or something I'm sure we'll hear more about a story and again just by putting it out I do I do get people here saying that they don't agree like Zulu man says I mean I don't really see him as that honestly and one person is saying that what is a slashy so slashy is someone that does a lot of different things we call them slashes because they're like a security guard slash pilot slash this

1:02:57 So they're like a slashy because they do so many different things in life that's awesome those are the kind of people you want to be friends with because they motivate you to be better and do more in Survivor I think that it can work on people's nerves and again like I said I've I had I have very minimal information to make judgments right when people are so close to each other so one thing might stand out to me and I might be like this is why I'm bumping down but then again in Survivor South Africa we nearly had a person who I thought not as high off going into that season when me and Riley put a draft way back that person nearly won the whole season and ended up being one of the stars of the Season that was last so it shows you we don't know what's going to happen we've got no idea we don't know the spoilers or anything also one of the other comments that I wanted to bring up here was Jerome saying by the way Chris sa Legend Robin Tilly is heavily trained and fighting an MMA I didn't know that Jerome so I'll have to reach out to him because I do talk to Rob every now and again I didn't realize that he's in that he's into MMA at all so it must be something that's quite new something else we can we can talk about off air that slang word doesn't exist here in America okay must be must be an international thing yeah like the first time yeah I feel like I've never heard that was in South Africa because we had a nesu in that season who was called a slashy because she did so many different things so it must be a an internationalized thing yeah as you're a multi-hyphenate I think a multi-hyphenate a

1:04:17 CS slash actor slash yeah so everything yeah I had no idea what that meant as you were talking about it but I kind of picked it up so picked it up from the context yeah all right so Jake you've got you've got the floor you've got to pick a female picnics so there's still a few options out on the table is there anybody that sort of piqued your interest and don't use my hey can I just my love interests right track you yes someone mentioned slashy as a it sounds like an Aussie slang here's some Aussie slang for you guys if you're having a slash anyone knows what that means drinking or I feel like oh no I know I know you're number one yeah doing number one side of a wall order just having a slash so there you go Jake some Aussie slang for you mate you know what's funny is like when I first started watching our survivor I actually had moments where I was like what are they talking about yeah and I can never I never thought that would happen because like oh yeah they speak English you know like they have a little bit of an accent but you know yeah it yeah so that kind of was funny to me yeah now there's a lot of it's a lot of little things like that I mean I've lived in New Zealand long enough now that a lot

1:05:37 Of it kind of translate between the two countries but there are still some subtle differences as well all right back into the woman pick here who are you picking next Jake you know I kind of I want to try to pick your crush I'm trying to yeah you're like trying to figure out who I'm gonna try to he wants to like stab me in the heart on this next one I'm gonna I actually you know I think it's between two people that are your crush let's see how well you know me I think it's I think it's Lauren is that who you picking I think that's your crush and that is who I'm picking oh that is my crush damn you know me to Walmart she's very beautiful sorry to my girlfriend but she would agree yeah she is man I should have I should have picked no I like listen I feel like between her and yeah I went for the option of the person I think is out there to win it more than the other but Lauren is stunning yeah that's it and yeah this whole thing is I'm going home no listen screw you guys I'm going home you know okay listen I'll try to actually so she was fairly high up for the women for me you know she's my second woman pick but i

1:06:58 Wasn't it wasn't until the last second where I was like let me try to figure out Chris's Crush I did not think you knew me that well no I actually I really like her because she I believe she's a single mom of two which is yes he's used to kids around him no you know what my thing is like I was like makes divorce a personality trait as like your big selling factor to like you're like I'm divorced I'm really going through that I'm like oh no but she made it a point in her Survivor thing as like her story is if divorce is that big of a thing I'm worried that she might be there more for like but I would question yourself I would I would question kuna that if divorce wasn't that big of a thing you were never in love or shouldn't have been married to the person you were married to in the first place because you literally chose your soul partner like the person you knew that you're going to live with for the rest of your life right and you broke up with it's not like you just dated them for like two weeks or sure and it should definitely be that way but how does that translate to the game of Survivor is she too PTSD from going through that to be able to play the game properly is my was

1:08:19 My concern when you're so caught up in that in what's going on outside of the game what does it mean when you're in the game you know maybe I'm a noob but clearly not but I well listen because I actually I didn't know she was I mean I assumed she was divorced you know but I didn't I haven't seen her mention it obviously she did didn't buy it because you only get like 20 seconds right I'm just looking at 20 seconds I will say this I will say this Chrissa brings up a great Point here she says well everyone's story for Survivor are also hyped up they're asked her to give her a story and the impact it has on her being a single mom for me personally like I cannot imagine what it feels like to be this 31 year old Elementary School teacher who does not get paid a lot of money being an elementary school teacher right to have to go through this thing but now she is the mom and the dad in the house and we all know that the impact is so much more on women than men when there's a divorce because in general men don't end up with the kids the woman ends up with the kids and she has to raise them so I think that it definitely would have shaped her and I think to come to your point on how fresh that is in her mind and if she's got a great support structure at home that are looking after the kids that could affect her I mean being out there and she's like man I'm the

1:09:39 Dad and the mom in this relationship I'm doing everything for the kids if she doesn't have a mom and dad who can help out or something like that could be in the back of her head and it can distract her from playing the game but I do think as an elementary school teacher coming into the game she knows how to deal with kids on a daily basis and Survivor players are kind of like kids like I mean can you imagine like you know having to deal with Ali and gabler and all those people last season like Sam was basically the elementary school teacher looking after all of them you know so I think having those skills is very really transferable to the game of Survivor you know and she's beautiful so I think that you know people are gonna want to talk to her I love the salvin axing that she's got you know the fact that she's from somewhere else is so refreshing because I feel like America kind of just that used the two coasts like the east or the West Coast people in general you don't get people from other states playing the game anymore so I really enjoy seeing someone from Texas I've spent some time in Texas when I lived in America so that you know accent is familiar to me I just I don't know there's something about her I'm telling you if she gets a football in the game she's going to go deep and I did see GG Mac here trying to put me on the spot saying Laura or Kara Maria Chris shoes that's a tough one carra Maria has been a crush for a very long time you know she's played the game off the challenge for many seasons so that makes it very difficult to choose between the two of them but

1:10:59 I think I'm allowed to have a crush this season I don't think current Maria would be too angry at me for having a crush for this season Jake no she's gonna be pissed yeah no I'm feeling I feel like the kind of what you said Kahuna I could see that happening I'm but I also see your point Chris we'll see with that but I think also like with her kids you know being a single mom you spend probably spend a ton of time with your kids you know they really look up to you since you're the only like parental figure so that will be hard for her to be away from her kids for you know a month or however long it takes to film all this so that'll be tough but I think she can do it's a good thing Gigi that I don't live in America you know I think Paulie is flying all the way over here yeah so kuna you're next who is gonna be your next female pick I could see you and thought there deeply thinking and contemplating the musics are hard because yeah your top picks all get grabbed by the other guys and you're like yeah Jake that you're dirty I can't believe you did that to you look I didn't have Lauren at the top but she's still she's higher than a lot of what I've got she was my

1:12:19 Number two pick for obvious reasons here after Maddie so good pick by Jake I did not think you were gonna get her so I'm surprised you know me a lot better than what I thought yeah I'm gonna pick I don't know this is probably the opposite of what's a good pick I'm gonna pick Heidi yep she is unfortunately the oldest female on the entire cast which is never a good sign but she's also a CrossFit like evangelists which all CrossFit people are and she says she's a super fan that like is the first generation immigrant all that sort of thing so I like that she's an Engineering Management very smart like she's overcome a lot in her life athletic with Crossfit if that means anything I don't know like but yeah I'm picking I'm thinking I'm not getting a lot of you're good you're just going you're just going you're going I'm trying to justify in my own head now I'm like ah I'm inviting Kona to every single draft we do from here on because Kahuna has got his top three and like the opposite side of my rankings and I've got mine on the other side so it's all good like

1:13:39 I had Heidi as my last pick on the rankings this season number nine but I don't have to Jake I think Jake if it was only me and Jake he would have known that he could leave it out for a while because he knows my opinion about older women playing this game and specifically the mom role in Survivor which I think she's gonna fit into they very rarely are successful at Survivor you know like and again somebody's gonna call me after it but wasn't it Tina maybe the last mom type role that won the show like it's been a very so the only one yeah like I just I can't remember anybody else that sort of fits that Arch type that actually won the game you know Chrissy as good of a game as you could potentially oh Denise maybe yes Denise won really she won dominantly yeah she was she was really good yeah so if she could yeah Dawn it doesn't even remember the one Brendan Chris is calling me out here saying Kahuna is looking yeah this is an agent I'm learning a lot apparently oh yeah I picked up on his ageism immediately right when I met him Chris dares to tell me he's not a fan of the love islands and MILF manners of the world come on Milford I've been watching that with my

1:15:00 Girlfriend my girlfriend and her family's been watching that I and I have been watching with them too it's a it's something I'm staying very far away from those ones guys but you know listen I mean again I'm a bit worried like 43 is not that old like I mean she could she's not in her 50s she's not in her 50s but yes again she's the oldest woman coming in to this season she's got that Puerto Rican background Sandra is a hero of hers who wouldn't love you know Sandra who's represented she also loves Angelina who I'm a big fan of the I saw a little bit of Angelina Love from a few people this season yeah encouraging to see because we want I feel like survivors like you need to focus on these players because this is kind of the players we want on the show because they bring something so if she's got that kind of personality if she's got that fiery side to her that could all be very interesting she's an engineering manager so she may have some things in common with the engineering boys that she can talk about I was just a little bit worried that if her tribe does go to an early Tribal Council being the oldest woman on the tribe and being on a very stacked try type with some really physically capable people I feel like she could stand out in their tribe and that's why for my female pick I'm not picking Heidi [Laughter]

1:16:20 I'm thinking you're already committed let me let me bring this up here for a second so this is her tribe right when you look at that tribe that she's in I feel like the obvious the obvious choice if they go to Tribal Council very early on they're not getting rid of the two young girls they're not getting rid of the two strong guys I don't think unless this guy wants to do something sneaky I feel like she's the odd one out in that combination so you've got to look at the combinations as well but listen you gotta so I know I've been completely biased against the engineers so far but she's an engineering manager that makes all the difference the type of people that are engineering managers are the outgoing ones the ones that are can take on big you know tasks and like manage a bunch of people they have to have good social skills I feel much better yes so yeah I was I'm helping you out don't doubt yourself don't doubt yourself just wing it like me you gotta know that but seriously like that's you know not everyone can do that so I think I think that's a good sign for her I do agree though Chris there you know the shape up of her tribe is a bit sketchy

1:17:40 You know were they to lose early on but if maybe if they don't lose till later she could have time to kind of solidify some alliances and I'm in such a tough spot here because I've got the next two picks guys and my strategy so far in this draft has been to go like you know a bull in a china shop and just go personality Let's get someone with a big personality deep in the game that'll give me a lot of confessionals that will potentially win the game for me and I don't know if I should mix it up here and go for someone that I think is a sleeper and could potentially win the show because they fit that mold off the type of woman that have been winning the Show recently or if I should go for someone that again is Balls to the walls chat let me know in the chat should I go balls to the wall with my next pick or should I go for a person who I think can win should I go personality or should I once make a smart move what do you think Chris this is this is sad you're turning to the chat let me know okay lachlan's land welcome to the live saying balls to the wall I think you see the man says then he says smart so okay so you say do it do smart gotta risk it for the biscuit Chris from Jay

1:19:04 It's looking like it's going wild so I'm gonna I'm gonna if this person that I'm skipping from because they're a third I could have had my top three picks I'm gonna go for my fourth pick instead of my third pick if this person then wins it is the third person I'm gonna be so angry at myself but the chat has never left me wrong so I'm gonna go balls to the wall and I'm gonna go for another big character I'm going for Franny Marin next from the green tribe age 23 research coordinator massive Sophie vibes from her but she's an interesting player even though she gives me that Sophie Vibes and she could potentially be strategic she wants to play with big players that's going to make big moves she wants to be chaotic so is she like the child of Sophie and Tony combined like it's a little bit of like both the two we get like a mad genius yeah the two top players of winners of War mixed together can you imagine like if she if she's got that level of upside to her but one of the other things that I also like about her is the fact that she has worked similar to some of the others like you know there's a theme this season she's worked in a nail salon so she's had to do with customer service High paced foot traffic coming into the into there so dealing with women in you know when she was I guess in the teens to early 20s they were twice her age and she had to like

1:20:24 Fit in be exposed to so many different personalities at the same time I think there's some real good things that can be grabbed there from a life experience that you could potentially bring into the game she identifies the most with Gabby and Aubry again two players as well Gabby she is so Gabby like that's the first as long as she's not as much of a train wreck as Gabby and she gets really you know obsessive about Matt we should be all right who's the Christian and Biggie of the Season all right no it's is it Carson do you think Carson's more of the Christian oh it could yeah it could be Carson yeah it could be yeah good point I'm looking at her profile now the pre-interview thing and it said favorite hobbies collecting leads collecting leaves yeah game nights and collaging she was way down on my list she collects leaves she's going to be just busy collecting leaves inside time because that's all there is out there the these are like so many leaves exactly this is the kind of thing Chad's loving it guys Chad's loving it they're loving this pick so I am team chaos this season this is what we've been lacking for a host Chris somebody that actually thinks about the in-game consequences like Kahuna she will just be collecting leaves collecting leaves what does that mean she put she put that she said favorite hobby collecting

1:21:44 Leaves collecting leaves literally she put that as one of her Hobbies I'm like what the hell yeah she also did say Chris that her real life inspiration and why like everyone's saying my family you know that's she literally said Sophie Clark is actually the coolest person ever so not who your Survivor inspiration is but who your actual real world inspiration is and she said Sophie Clark so we've got that in common at least so I feel like it's a match made in heaven but no listen she's throwing out it's funny because they gave her one opportunity to say like who are you gonna play like and she said you know Gabby and Aubry and then she also said with a little bit of spunk from Marianne So she was also one of those people that brought Marianne up you know so she just had so many players there that I don't know if she knows who she's going to be when she's out there but I'm excited to find out Jake same I think she could be some fun on this season for sure yeah Superman when she makes merch when then what team TV yes team Tony blockers yeah and in this case good TV that was one of the best like double meanings ever yeah TV for his initials and that's yeah it was awesome all right so I think I'm back mail pick and

1:23:04 You know keeping it keeping it real in regards to going for these big personalities people that either gonna go very early on but you know if I just reckon if I pick all the personalities chances are at least half of them or two or three of them do make the merge and I do end up getting a lot of confessionals and potentially if they if they win it would be a win that I am proud of I want to be proud of picking the winner this season I don't want to feel like yeah I picked the boring option they won whoop the you know I want to pick a player where I was like yeah this person won they shouldn't have won so I'm gonna go Kane I'm giving the live chat what they wanted they've been wanting us to pick Kane this whole draft they've been saying pick Kane age 25 reminds me of Daniel struckey hopefully he doesn't end up being a Daniel struckey out there because he was good TV but he went before the merge you know I really enjoyed Daniel I'd love for Daniel to come back law student so obviously a little bit of maybe Nick and me as well you know well Dan Daniel was also a lawyer too yeah so there you go so he wants to be Tyson for his effortless Charisma I mean who doesn't like Tyson of course yeah I love that but he wants to play but he wants to play like Zeke the most with a little bit of a tweak of how Zeke played so I thought

1:24:24 That was quite interesting he's one of those people that looks like this big goofball out there he might be underestimated says he's got some hidden skills we see him making the fire practicing is that like foreshadowing to him winning a fire contest maybe at the end of the game who knows maybe they've started that in the preseason yeah start starting the foreshadowing before the show even begins that's crazy yeah so Daniel Strunk Chris saying not Daniel Stuckey so yeah sorry I'm horrible with names sometimes but yeah you know who I'm talking about Daniel one of the things that stood out for me about Herman one of the things I always believe when you play Survivor some people go there for the journey some people go there to find themselves but Survivor is not a place to find yourself it's a place where you need to know who you are at your core because everything is going to get stripped away from you and the better you know yourself the better you do in the game in general and that is why he's going out there not to find himself he knows who he is he's young enough to make a million he says he's not going for the money he's going for the experience to be part of Survivor because he's such a big fan so those are all things that I really like about him the fact that he's going and feeling like he's playing with house money that's how I would want to play Survivor if I go out there you know I had a bit of a conversation with Simon who I know Jake you wouldn't know too much of Australia's father won't spoiled too much this week we had a conversation and I said to Simon you know at least you'll be remembered no matter where

1:25:45 This game goes because you're going out there and you're giving it a red hot crack yeah that's much better than b that's much better than being forgotten he was on brain versus brown and he's back for her I remember he was voted out with two Idols yeah so he's already so he's already being remembered for That season and now yeah I won't spoil it I won't spoil it but he's going to be remembered for this season and so all I'm saying is I don't like I know some people are like you know where's night me to get voted out of two Idols all that stuff and you wouldn't want that to happen but I would rather be remembered than not remembered like I'd rather not be in the middle of the road player so I feel like you know could be that person is this the monkey's paw though Chris we remember Dan Foley from Worlds Apart do you remember yes remember him he was he didn't I don't think he was the greatest guy out there let's just say that and he said before the season he's like I will make one thing clear you will remember me after this season is done for the wrong reasons oh we remember oh we remember you Dan but I don't think it's for the reason you I don't think his dad no I know I'm just kidding I think you misquoted him earlier Chris when he said he's the effortless kid of a younger more handsome Tyson how can you oh you're

1:27:05 Handsome by throwing that in it shows his personality the jokester to him and I really dug that I think it's really weird because I watched this thing and I thought the way he spoke in his confessional was so lacking of charisma but then he's the what he's written in his interviews and stuff is that he's Goofy and he's making jokes and I love all that I just didn't get it from the face to face if you I was like oh this dude it's boring as hell I don't know what's gonna happen here so interesting drawers saying dang I'm putting money on Chris Long Shots always pay off big and this year has been the year of long shots there's a reason why they're long shots they don't always pay off big they literally pay off less frequently there's a reason Kona there's a reason I don't gamble I never go to the casino because I'll probably end up losing too much man thousand to one shot always comes through yeah I'm putting it all on black every single time let's get there on it going one thousand dollars all right Kahuna tell me who are you writing here for the next guy who's the next guy pick you're doing who and you gotta remember you're giving me I'm gonna pick Josh Wilder yeah very good it looks incredibly athletic he seems very charismatic very fun I

1:28:25 Don't like the fact that he's doing that old survivor bullcrap of I'm gonna hide that I'm a podiatric surgeon because I don't want people to think customer shut up no one cares like that you're a surgeon there's been doctors there's been surgeons just own it and play it again I don't think anyone's looking at a podiatric surgeon as if they're freaking Albert Einstein anyway but maybe he's saying combine it with my Athletics combine it with my frame and it does make an overall intimidating package and if he's worried about threat management then sure like yeah I appreciate him trying to do that but he might be similar like I'm assuming you guys meant he was the Brandon right he was a similar to Brandon he's big he's strong he's athletic he's going to get to merge because of that and he's not going to go very far after it because of that I'd say to both Brandon and Danny they're kind of all three almost the same to me the more athletic young male type but I do like Josh was my fifth ranked coming into this like so obviously you've picked a few people that were lower than that and I jumped I jumped over I jumped over him to choose Kane to keep it chaotic but if I was to use my brains of chats were like no day use someone you think that could do really well in this game I think Josh has got a potentially good mind for this game I like the fact that he's hiding the fact that he's a surgeon or Surgical as a podiatrist how do you pronounce it yeah

1:29:45 Sorry my secret language the way he said it was the first time I'd heard it said that way as well Podiatry podiatric surgeon yeah so anyway so I like the fact that he's hiding it because I do think that even though it's Survivor 44 and people don't care anymore I do think it can prevent you from getting there when people think you've got a lot of money and you don't need it potentially in the game I do think that there is a certain stereotype that will come with that as to him being a smart person that could do wallet puzzles and you know potentially be a bit of a challenge piece because not only is he physically fit he's also mentally clearly very strong you know so that could put a unnecessary threat on his back and I think because of his body like the guy has got a body I would die for like you know he's athletic he's in shape lean you know is this a male crush is my mail crush this is my male Crush for the season you've heard it yeah he's also a tough mudder and like obstacle course guy which I love I love all that stuff I'm into Spartan Tough Mudder all that type of races but I think that with his body being in the shape that it is he could easily tell them that he's a fitness instructor he would have a lot of knowledge of what it takes to be in shape like that because that doesn't happen on its own unless he's blessed like James Clement second shout out because apparently that guy never trained a day in his life and looked like a bodybuilder how does that's insane that's insane I get it I totally understand where he's coming from so this guy's just like I mean I'd love to see what James looks

1:31:06 Like today like because if he still hasn't trained like he's still got that shape and definition but just a natural freak you know but anyway so Josh being in that shape I'm sure he'd be able to hold his own if he was to pretend to be a gym instructor or something like that but I do like him he looks to have a very smart brain for the game Jake kind of interested to know why you haven't gone for him earlier what's your thoughts on him do you like him in this spot I think this is this is about where like if I he would have been my pick if you didn't go for him or if Kahuna didn't go for him but the thing that this is going to sound weird but the thing that kind of throws me off about him is that he seems too perfect like he's got it all like but too much like it's too much you know and he's like gone through all of this hardship in his life you know he's I believe he's gay so he's had to you know go through the hardships of that and it's like okay you're giving me too much here I don't like it The Vibes are off he you know who he reminds me of Chris I mean Kahuna again I'm sorry for bringing up people that you don't know but the high from 42.

1:32:25 Oh that's a that I've not seen that connection but I mean I was my number one pick for that team and he would have been I believe you got the first pick that CC he would have I did yeah yes he would have been my first pick so he we both fell for it and it's not like high was a slouch out there he was good but it's like those types of people just don't they just don't win they just don't you know so it's almost like you're thinking he's putting on the front but when he's out there and he gets deprived of everything that's when we'll see his true colors come out but I don't think there's a Romeo out there this season to annoy him because I kind of came apart when Romeo started having this like and they just couldn't get away yeah maybe it will be Carson I don't know maybe Kane will do something weird and annoying it's an interesting that's an interesting observation that was just the first thing when I when I like read when I just watched his video and read his bio I was just like I couldn't get high out of my head yeah but I think I think personally kuna being the second last guy pick of the season honestly yeah I'd agree yeah because obviously you're left with you're left with the last person with Bruce here so what's your thoughts on Bruce coming your way Bruce being the last male pick of the season do you think there's any upside to him potentially coming

1:33:45 Into this season you know being the oldest guy I think coming into the season after just having the oldest guy win do you think it'll have an effect these guys obviously haven't seen gabler's win I comparatively I don't feel great about Bruce I mean there's a reason why he's the last one here but there's always a chance I mean if we were doing this just based off of you know gameplay last season gabler would have been last he literally would have been last I don't think there's anybody else that I would put last so anything can happen but Bruce he seems like a really nice guy and like he just doesn't there's just not a lot there in my opinion like going through his bio I was just like okay yeah it just seems like kind of a normal dude you know with a family man he's like I do think he's more like Abram J than rocks Roy because roxroy had this military background likeness yeah he does he doesn't really remind me of rocks Roy and personally Rock story was a bit more kind of weird and I loved Roxbury can we have rocks Roy back like very soon like Second Chances or something

1:35:06 And in fact I feel like we would have to have him back because he's losing his eyesight right so I don't have to have him back like sooner rather than later but I love the chaos Roxbury brought to the game because Kahuna was literally like this guy who stepped into a Time Chamber and froze himself from back in the 2000s when Survivor was first invented and he came in and he's not watched any season since season two and he came into the game and he played with those same morals and compass and you know making things around campus important collecting fish yeah like that's literally who rocks Roy was like he was not there for the strategy but I really enjoyed him I think he would do better if he played another season I don't think Bruce is going to have rocks Roy upside as a character because I do agree with you slightly on that Jake I think he's just like when literally when I did my cast reaction you guys will see when I put it up I looked and I was like I like this guy I want to be friends with Bruce like he just seems like they're kind of guy you want to be friends with because he looks like a super nice guy you know he talks about you know wanting loyalty and an alliance which is again 2 000 so you get a dog if you want loyalty you don't go to Survivor is not about loyalty people won't be loyal to you especially in Survivor 44 you know and he loved Jeremy for the sense of family and commitment he's into Boston golfing all that

1:36:26 Kind of stuff he's like a nice guy but I don't know if he knows the game that he's getting into and if he's ready for that a lot of Jeremy mentions as well from this cast yeah definitely a lot of Jeremy love yeah and I think it's quite telling actually you know that a lot of people really love this game that again that diversity is working for some of these new players having exposure to that because they've got more Role Models out there that they can look up to and clearly can gravitate towards in the game I think even Denny mentioned even Denny shouted out Jeremy as well as a fellow fireman you know right yeah that's true yeah I'm sorry to say this Jay I think Bruce was the room in medivac oh really what really when I said I paused when I said I paused I saw probes leaning over a black so it's either gonna be Bruce Brandon or Josh and I think I know Brandon standing so it was just in the preview the trailer episode it might not be your midi back at all it could be a red herring like you get that first episode injury but then they're there for the second one and it might be so I don't know but that was what gave me the pause and why I had him and Josh so low

1:37:46 Dang wow so Jason yeah he's rumored to be medievacked so I haven't read anything I saw it I literally like okay pause and I did the like Leonardo DiCaprio meme like pointing at this yeah I think it's the only the I hope you've got Jay because if that is the case because we don't know none of us are into spoilers and then Matt was the other guy that actually fell off yeah I got both of them [Laughter] I don't think Matthew's going anywhere I think the fact that they showed him in that trailer yeah is good for him I think he's going to be a big character so I think he chose well and I just don't think they would show that if he was going to get medivac that early yeah the only thing you've got to hope for with Bruce is that it doesn't happen in the first episode and that he at least gets a couple of episodes but that's what I was that's what I was about to say for some upside to this that maybe they give him his flowers yeah that'd be good so then I'll get some confessional points yeah all right so we're going into you've been severely disadvantaged for this last round because you got the last mail pick but you won't get the last female pick of this draft Where Are You leaning towards with the three women that are still on the table so it's a bit of a toss-up but one of these just well just while you're thinking about it the

1:39:06 Woman that I left on the table was my number three pick I skipped my number three pick to pick my number four right because I went for the character so my number three pick my number five picking my number six pick are still on there so all of these women in my opinion are just so pretty decent though yeah I'm still pretty happy with the last three women that are left so this person I'm about to pick is actually from the same town as me which is weird just it was weird to see like when the cast was first released like on inside Survivor like months and months ago time to become friends so you can see if you can use that and get on the show mate to see Mesa Arizona was weird so she's she kind of intrigues me to just see that so I'm picking Jamie Lynn yes all right Lynn all right okay she was my number three pick interesting I nearly picked her I nearly picked her yep so I don't actually like I don't feel that stronger well I don't I don't but I don't also feel that strong about her I think I mean this is only my third woman

1:40:27 So it's like it's you know this is what makes this drop so exciting because it's only you have to be so much more critical because it's six and six yeah but I just like Lauren and well Lauren was your crush so I picked her because I might have I might have picked her yeah she yeah she was she was my the other person I was debating picking if I wasn't gonna try to expose you and then I just I think Claire was my number one so I just went with her so I actually do really like her she just seems just very bubbly very she's the person she's the person when I started talking about the corporate white collar America having used that in her profession to climb the ranks within Corporate America and now she wants to use that in Survivor and I could see so much of that because I watched Survivor from the age of like 10 11 grew up watching it throughout all my teens going into corporate you know New Zealand I guess having used a lot of those skills like learning how to get along with people and network and dealing with the difficult personality the Philip Shepard in the office type of thing you know and how do you know get alliances so that you can go from one job to another job you know become friends with recruiters nepotism is always a thing that people look

1:41:47 Down upon I actually really respected because there's a hustle involved in getting to know the right people to climb the ranks as you go you shouldn't be spiteful because of it you should be looking at yourself and saying why aren't I doing it why am I not making these allegiances within the company that I'm working all within external recruiters and things like that you know what can I do to network better is there recruitment events I could go to you know so I used a lot of that type of thinking in my own profession so I really related to that when she said that so I think with her coming into the game there's a lot of upside because I feel like she would be if she does well she's not going to be an offensive big personality but she'll have that social game and strategic game sitting in the shadows potentially like Erica this season which those are the type of players that win Survivor currently those are the type of women that go out there and do extremely well Jake so I think it's a good pick what was your thoughts on her my thoughts was that she did really well in the corporate world and is now a yogi who lists her Hobbies as Garden yoga cooking golfing hiking reading painting swimming writing so is she a slash deal she doesn't know what she is and that's the thing that gets me a yogi that lists everything under the sun the one thing I didn't like the one thing I didn't like is when she said we like speaking things into existence yeah

1:43:07 Get out of here that phrase that phrase gets me every time when people say it say that I had to get it you got to manifest it you got to think about it then you got to achieve it but just by someone saying that makes me think like I'm gonna put it out there and it's just automatically going to happen that was like the one thing that grinded my gears a little bit but I still think there's a lot of upside to her so years ago on Australian Survivor Jake Luke do you I don't know if you remember a guy named Henry of course he was a was he a construction worker or a plumber or something some physical job but he came on and convinced he said he was a yoga instructor so he's done it as but that's okay because you can get them on side but he had what he thought was a strategic mind behind it and all that sort of thing I think she genuinely buys into speaking things into existence Chris and it's not going to speak anything into existence in the world of Survivor for me yeah because I've met people that say that type of stuff and you're just like but again she could just be playing it up I think the producers were like yeah we are Yogi so you like you know manifesting and you know the Vibes of the universe right like you know and she's like oh totally yeah Flynn welcome to the live stream yes so if you look at the teams my team is team hashtag team TV all the big

1:44:28 Characters big personalities so I had to go for Yam off the gate because man I love that guy he gives me so much Marianne upside Vibes as well all right so there's two people left we're you know getting to the bottom here of the last two players I'm okay with either one because like I said it's my number five and number six pick that is still available and I think they're interchangeable in some ways so where are you gonna go Kahuna who are you leaving me with and who are you taking off the board I feel like I should go with you know Asian representation and have that on my squad but I'm gonna go with the opposite and pick Sarah Wade all right tell us why are you picking her she was my number five so she was ahead of Allen who's number six yeah she just she's she could be in that young group she's a Management Consultant I don't even know what the hell that means in reality like everyday life like you know I'm a manager I don't need you to consult with me but I don't know like she seems like she looks athletic if she's in that again that corporate world like you've just rattled on about how great it is and transferable it may be oh social Politics the politics and corporate you know you're the management yourself there's so much politics and white collar jobs that I think it does make you aware of it quite a lot and how to navigate different people and we had someone asking me is there a Philip

1:45:48 Shepard I said other Philip Shepherds of me believe me I've worked with some Philip Shepherds in my life I have for me she says that she graduated with a 3.98 GPA that doesn't mean anything to Australians but I assume it means it's High yeah foreign as well which I think is a funny thing to say I mean I believe it means you got all A's there was have do you like more rats that movie mole rats have you heard of that Kevin Smith long before you probably before you were born Jay but someone said yeah I graduated with the summer laude and the response was I hoped come loud one day as well so I always thought that just sticks in my head as someone who didn't know what it meant when I was 15 and then I had to Google what that Latin phrase actually is and it's complete opposite I thought it was funny anyway yeah it's look there's not a lot left on the board right but she looks athletic to me the only problem that I had with her is she's saying she looks athletic is such an understatement man have you seen the ABS on yeah like she is you could eat cheese all that yeah it's Viking working out playing beach volleyball yeah now she's in shape she's she mentioned Stephanie as one

1:47:08 Of the players she looks up to she could be modern day Stephanie lagrassa basically I don't I don't like that her again like Jake's pointed out many times that it might be the producers pushing the story and the angle and trying to find that hook but yeah her best friend passing away like seems to have a big part in that like I don't it might mean that you haven't I don't know like what the relationship was like whatever but if that's the thing that they're pushing I don't know how far that goes as far as the story like you know like does that get you across the line but yeah I love how she I love how she sees like male people like male as like this interesting species that she needs to decipher because she works in this you know male dominant industry that has taught her how to deal with us men you know that was like such an interesting comment that she made but I mean listen I get it to a certain degree because I work my industry as recruitment technology and I'm in recruitment like 80 of people working in recruitment as women so I deal with women on a daily basis so you have that made me better in my dating life no you would think I would learn by working with women every single day I've learned absolutely nothing so I don't know if it's gonna translate to the game just because she's in a male dominant industry but I do think that if the upside to hers if she does well if she gets

1:48:28 A foot all in the game she'll end up being very good at challenges this could be like a challenge Beast like she is Bolt jacket I'm happy with that is the last Peak I'm happy that is the last Peak yeah so I like the whole White Collar you know industry dominated by men you know I always like those types of women to you know have made their way up in a in an industry like that but you know funny enough I did I was thinking the same thing kind of as Kahuna with the with her friend you know it's like she never got the desire to apply until her friend passed away her friend they would always like talk about it I guess so it's like hmm it's just funny because like oh you haven't done it until now so I don't know that's that was just a weird ah listen some of the base winners we've ever had didn't even know what the show was before they got on That's So I mean I think sometimes not being a fan of the show is a very good thing you only want to you want to almost be a casual fan you want to understand what strategy 100 you want to know what the advantages in the game is but then I think Survivor is kind of like you know if you've ever done acting at school like

1:49:48 I used to do a bit of acting a little bit of that type of stuff you're either born with it or you're not you know like you either have that or you like instinctively you're either going to be a good player or not and it's all based on your personality and how you get along with other people so I do think that could be actually in her Advantage not being a big fan that haven't applied for so many seasons but in her case I don't know I didn't see enough of her personality to really get a grasp of if she actually will get it when she's out there and if she wouldn't just be another really strong dominant type of female character but doesn't get that social politics strategy side of the game so she was a big question mark for me but she was fifth she was a hit of Helen you know what I'm really worried about the vibe that I picked up when you talked about you didn't get enough of her personality there were times where she was talking and I just got a vibe that she's not trustworthy in talking about her life truthfully I was like this girl seems like she's full of crap and that's just talking about real stuff if she's actually literally talking to people about being deceitful and I'm like oh I don't know how that's going to go when I just didn't get a good like trustworthy vibe from it and that's again 30 seconds worth of edited clip on TV on you know on the internet right so I don't know we'll see lachlan's land here saying that like ill had about didn't know anything

1:51:08 About Survivor and he had such a good win also mentioned Earl and then Flynn here says Sarah looks like or looks kind of like Shawnee I don't know not for me but definitely she won't have the same if she was be great if she was like it would be the best thing to it to happen to Survivor us in a very long time if Shawnee was on Survival yeah such a great player yeah crystal says the winners usually are acquired on social media that's true because they're a few losing the money so yeah you could maybe you got maybe you got the winner and I also saw somebody earlier was like maybe Carson is playing psychological warfare he's trying he's putting merch out there to make it seem like that he's an early Boop actually it's a red herring that would be something that he would do because he's not actually a NASA engineer he would be playing 4D chess with the fans he did say that one of the things he did to prepare was read the FBI guide on how to interrogate people which I thought was great I remember that yeah all you need is the Boston Rob you know Rules book was it the Rob Rules book I got that for Christmas a couple a couple years ago yeah do you recognize winning the hence winning the draft two years ago do you reckon it still stands up in the new era of Survivor do you think he needs to bring a version 2.0 out you know based on his when I said war game if I'm

1:52:29 Being honest I haven't read it in a long time so I don't remember everything but I'm sure there needs oh no we lost Jake there for a second you still there we may have lost Jake I'm gonna get it hello are you back you're back so you were going to say something about not having read it in a long time oh yeah I haven't read it sorry I was still talking and it looked like I was still you cut out I guess you cut out for a second I haven't read it in a long time so I don't remember everything in it but I'm sure that he needs to update it because this new game is a lot different there's just it's just a different type of player that wins yeah flemasters are saying aren't they Marianos was all over social media I think witness like Erica and gabler just simply aren't active in general that's true that's true okay I like how Tony also just had like a social media account for the seasons he played and then removed that as soon as he didn't play the game anymore you know he's like I'm not interested in this game all right the last person here on the list is Helen Lee age 29 product manager and I will admit the one thing I marked her down the most for was being a product manager because I deal with product managers on a daily basis and when she said product managers are the ones that come up with the ideas and then other people have to implement

1:53:49 It I was like yep exactly as a manager I don't need people to bring me more problems I know about the problems I need the solutions and product people sometimes will come and like look at something and be like oh we need to fix this whole thing when it's not broken and you guys figure it out and then you've got an idea as how we can view it I was like yeah if she's like that you know that's how it feels being an engineer sometimes so I'm an intern so I yeah you know I can't speak as if I'm like a you know full-time but kind of on my first day they were like you know what we're going to give you this problem and just figure it out and I was like what like you're not even getting there like we'll give you a little bit of guidance but you know just figure it out just well my role it's a super it's super annoying because like you know kuna might relate to this but it's like we live in Brave this I've been in the workforce for probably like 15 years now I understand that there are problems I can see the problems I don't need you to point that out to me I need you to be useful and I feel like that's what the fingers for product managers sometimes they're just not that useful so if she's that kind of personality out there then that could annoy people if she comes up with like we should do X Y and Z but she doesn't bring anything to the table you know what I mean that could be bad for her but overall she

1:55:09 Could also have upside she could be the Erica of the Season playing that social game behind this I did mention Erica and her and her and Tina shout out Tina so it's good to hear Tina shouted out twice on this podcast she also likes Sophie for a strategic game outside of that I just didn't really get a great feel for what type of player she's gonna be I feel like if she wins she wins like an Erica fashion I feel like she's going to be a very underedited winner Jake she kind of she's like the female Bruce for me this season kind of I just don't get I didn't get a good sense kind of like you said of what kind of player they're going to be or kind of what their personality is going to be like you know so also I thought it was funny that in her video she was like you know people just say anything nowadays like being a product manager is gonna help me so much in the game of Survivor I'm like man they'll say anything there people say I'm a garbage band and it will help me in the game you know like so yeah and it you know I actually didn't know what a product manager was I would go and then I'd be like being a sports fan you know someone that watches a lot of rugby games I understand the strategy of different people being good at different positions you need backline players to spread the ball wide run real fast but you also need those forwards you know the people that can go in there and Bash it up get you the ball you know get your position you

1:56:29 Should just go in there and like throw them off and just like yeah I watch a lot of basketball so should I should I go to the Los Angeles Lakers and be like that listen I watch a lot of basketball so I understand as a basketball fan that's a basketball player I understand exactly what you need put me on LeBron I know all about buzzer beaters I understand that the game is truly never over like Marianne showed us until the last minute if you can make the buzzer beater by getting the right person out you know you could still win this game you just need to have a compelling case at the end right goona well I feel like that's what sometimes the game of Survivor would be like and for us who are armchair experts you sit and you go no I've watched it for 20 years I've seen every season I've seen every iteration I know it's going to happen but once you get on that beach it might be like stepping in the NBA where okay I know the game of basketball very well but does she physically listen I'm a big fan yeah everything I'm a big fan of Muhammad Ali but if I had to go up against Jake Paul I would get my heart my ass handed to me yeah just because I'm a fan doesn't mean I could take him on in boxing right exactly so yeah but the fight would be rigged against you anyway so yeah that wouldn't matter hey if he paid me more I might I might take a couple of heads to the Head yeah if you if you got enough money if the price is right so the price is right I'll profile all

1:57:49 Right next part next recap on the TNT is going to be Jake Paul vs Tommy Fury so we're gonna yeah no it's gonna be it's gonna be Chris swannapool versus Jake Paul I would have to I would I would have to go and train again I would have to get my karate gear back on and actually get in the ring all right well there we have it those are the teams for this season we've got team chaos with Chris right at the top we've got Kahuna I don't know was you a team Underdog because you went the other way on most of these ones Kona I don't know man I think you could still take it okay Chris yeah I don't know Jake has got Jake has got a really good mix of players as well I feel like especially now you did me dirty with a with the Lauren pick obviously and I do like your first pick a lot your first pick I think if yam doesn't win it I think you know he could he could go all the way yeah Matthew that's going to be confusing having a mad and that's you but I like I like Matthew so yeah I think this is gonna be a great season flemaster says Jake easily with the most normal team yeah so that's it's like is that an insult though because I kind of want it I want to do good a good mess

1:59:10 Team Bland you know team chicken and broccoli it's his team I'm definitely most upset about Jam none who got the little Easter egg when I created the thumbnail I put I'm winning right above his head so you guys should have known I was gonna go for Yam from the start because I actually put it out there as a little Easter egg clues we're just I'm a rookie in the game I'm not paying attention to the little things like the clues and the thumbnail so I'll remember for next time that's for sure I had to you know what I had to come into this season with some additional fire in my belly because Jake won the last one so I have to come in and get one on him it's like I'm very competitive Jake so I was like you know I'm just gonna throw everything out the wall and see what sticks I love I love I'm very competitive too like for winners of War me and my family did a draft and me and my girlfriend you know it was me and my girlfriend my mom and my dad and my sister and her husband and it was super fun I had Tony on my team so we've won so I love I love this type of stuff I'm glad that I'm bringing out some fire in you no

2:00:30 I love it I love it yeah it's and also this draft I feel like was a lot of fun because the Australian Survivor draft that I did Mucky completely threw it from the start so it's like it's like how do you just like and people in the live were saying don't throw it to Chris don't make it easy on him and he just kept going down that road corner just kept picking all these players so I was like this one's obviously I'm gonna win Australian Survivor so I knew I had to have my a game coming up against the defending champion and Jake for this one but it's been a lot of fun and we'll be back you know weekly to do the Recaps for Survivor 44 so if you do like this content I know everybody in the life here would already be subscribed but anybody watching this at the latest stage if you're listening to this on the audio platform consider Jumping On YouTube look up the nullify take the channel on YouTube and subscribe to the channel hit a like on this comment on the video afterwards as hell as well because it does help with the algorithm even if it's just to say really enjoyed this live and we'll be back in the in the near future to talk about the season I think it's going to be a lot of fun Jake Kahuna thank you so much for jumping on and to catch you guys later thank you bye