Survivor 44: Earn the merge Power Ranking

0:00 Welcome back to the nullified Tech channel here on YouTube where Kahuna and I have got the TNT takes for you on Survivor 44 episode 6 earned the merch episode that's right we've both just watched it today we're recording this video before the review and recap that will take place with nasira here on the channel which I'm very excited about so if you see this is pre-recorded we may come up with some different conclusions after that specific recap and review but Kahuna it's been a minute since you and I have been able to talk about Survivor 44 I think the last time you were on the channel was episode one the premiere episode the draft yeah absolutely so I've been I've been paying attention closely waiting to have my opportunity back to rub in your face how well I'm doing this season in the draft Chris I think it's gonna be a good one we can there's probably gonna be some agreement it's probably going to be some debate but the goal here is as gentlemen we're going to get to a consensus on where we think people lie yeah I agree 100 with you on that 100 I just want to say you've got you know you say said that you've been doing well and you have but you've just lost the person this week so we're now we're now equal right for people in the game but points wise you're way ahead but how this is gonna work our power rankings might be a little bit different to what you've seen before and how other people do power rankings and

1:20 The reason for that is because you know it is quite hard when you're pre-recording it this way to visually put something up there that both myself and Kahuna agree with we haven't actually spoken about this prior to doing this recording so we this is the best way we could figure it out but it'll still be from number 11 through to number one we've got three categories if you're in the sole survivor category which is that top tier bracket you're clearly in it to win it according to both myself and Kahuna if you're on the Spy Shack sort of category it means we don't know what the hell you're up to or what's going on in the game with you because you're hiding either from us the viewer the audience or from the production team because they're not putting you into the show enough for us to know what the hell's going on in this a few players I think they've Fallen to that category and then obviously if you're on the edge it means you're pretty close to being out of this game kuna what do you think of those three categories easy enough to follow yeah easy enough to follow hard to like really nail down where you want to put people though I'm hedging my bets a bit too much I think it's I know you're the TNT take you put it out there you know like I'll take you'll take big swings I'm trying to think like I don't know sometimes you know like some of these people look like they could go far something like it's not that clear to me as you sound very confident but I'm happy to have a look through it let's do it listen I and again for everybody that's listening to this right

2:40 I've got my takes and you've got your takes that's all good right like we're gonna disagree and we're gonna agree to disagree on some things this is just how I see it and guess what I've been wrong many times in the last three seasons when it comes to Survivor in this new age Laguna probably being cautious is the way to go at the moment because you never know what the editor is going to do with the new age of Survivor I don't even think they sometimes know what they want to do with the edit but let's get into the first play here and we're gonna start all the way here from the left working our way through to the right as we talk about these players we're going to start with Brandon as the first player and I'll give you the honor as the co-host guest here for this podcast to go first and let me know where do you think Brandon currently should sit on these categories and then I'll go second so I tried to do a bit of a pre-game myself right where would I put people and when I was originally putting Brandon I had him just in the middle in the Spy Shack I wasn't sure he didn't he's not showing me too much but he seems to not be in danger at the moment but now that we're heading towards Emerge being the big physical threat he I'm I put him in the middle but he would be one of those border ones he's like on the edge because now we're at the game the point of the game where yeah I think

4:01 He's going to be targeted but it just seems like at the moment there's a lot of like relationships and other targets that are coming up ahead of him so that's why I put him in the middle but I don't think you'll get to the end based on just being a very clear physical threat no I actually first one is a good start first I do think he is definitely for me also in the Spy Shack category at this point it's not that his game has necessarily been hidden from us we kind of know who he's with he's with Lauren in the game he does think he's got a very tight relationship with Carson I think losing Matthew and the pre-match has heard his game more than anything else because we know Matthew and him was seen talking and saying that they would look out for each other in the game but he's also got his brochacho and Danny's still in the game and Danny's got some numbers Brennan's got some numbers so I can very easily see this Alliance sticking together bringing their numbers in from Heidi and Lauren and forming something that could Galvanize a strong bond relationship Alliance to go to the end of the game but we're seeing some Snippets of other things happening around them which I just don't think Brendan is so much aware of and we saw that whole scene with him and Danny not being painted in a positive picture last week and I think because of that coming into this week as well you know he really didn't like the

5:21 Fact that Kane knew he was up as a Target and that Brandon was willing to go that way that's not good for Brandon's game that Kane knows Brandon was willing to throw him under the bus so I think that him sitting in the Spy Shack good start for us here now the next person that we're going to move on to is probably the biggest character of the season and it's Carolyn she's been all over our TV screens she definitely is the breakout star of the new age of Survivor at this stage in my mind I don't think we've had a bigger character on the show but guess what Jeff loves this season Kona and Jeff loves Seasons that big players win so because of that I have to put her at personally and we'll give you an opportunity to dispute this I think she's a sole survivor category I think she's one of the top contenders to potentially win this season at this point the only fear I have for her is that there's a lot of people who are not taking her seriously at this point in the game so at some point she's going to have to change that perception it's working for her now with her great level being low but I do think she's got a great strategic brain I do think she's got a great read on the game we always go back to her to hear her opinions about certain situations in the game and that to me is what I think winners edit should look like even though Jeff doesn't think that it exists Kuna that's funny I was actually going to say the exact same thing that Jeff says there's no winners at it but what

6:41 They're showing of Carolyn feels like it's so much like she's constant like you said she's getting her she's managing a threat level but I think they're playing it like she's getting underestimated she's being overlooked and she could have that real Underdog winner story and it seems like they're trying to they're pumping her up they're hyping her out for something either to win or to have that really sad like let down where it's such a tragic loss towards the end because we would have been rooting for her for so long and she is built you can see like there's times where she'll have her crazy moments and make the faces and they do all the edits but now they're starting to show some real like actual moments like of serious thought when she's very clear-eyed and thinking things through and they're giving him more of a mixed edit than in that first episode where it felt like it was a bit of I she's a clown so we're going to take advantage of it now they're met like flickering in some little things of actual like real winner type stuff and it's fascinating to watch that someone a character like this is doing so well in the season is pretty fun actually now settle the dispute faster is it bag or bag ah

8:01 That Minnesota that Minnesota accent yeah that was that was a very funny moment okay I tend to lean on the side of saying it like a goat as well bag great TV moment if Carolyn doesn't win this season it is gonna hurt my heart because you know I always love the people that proved me wrong I've said it many times on the podcast when they come in I'm like I don't know why this person is on the show she's a bit too much for me and then she changes my mind I'm all in on the Carolyn love at the moment she's doing great you've got to go first so you've got the mic going into Mr Danny here what's your thoughts on Danny where would you put him up until this episode I would have put him in the sole survivor and I still think I might put him there but he if we're gonna actually number rank them he would be towards the bottom of who I would put in that Soul Survivor top tier I think he's had a really good season so far he's got an eye at all he's a physical threat he's very fun and seems to be getting along with people Reaching Across the aisle and getting that relationship with Brandon so they've got that brachacho thing that you mentioned I didn't like last week the look that had with Carolyn when we know that she is being made out to be a favorite and he's essentially gone against that or overlooking that so I don't know if he's going to get on the train with Carolyn which could see him

9:21 Out if we think she's going to go far so I do have him at the top because he could be the other faction if you will that group versus like the Carolyn yam James whoever's in that there could be little factions and one's going to come out above the other right now I think he's got just as good a shot as anyone else so I'm putting him Soul Survivor but not ahead of the likes of a Carolyn I don't think okay so this is the food we are gonna slightly disagree but I can lean either way here so I'm open to where you want to place him at the end of it because I see him at the top of spy Shack so we're very close I think that he's got a chance to win stall so maybe by that definition alone we should put him on Soul Survivor even if I think it through and I was also in two minds of where I wanted to put him because he clearly is the leader of that counter Alliance to The Three Stooges in the game and potentially the nerd Squad coming together to run this game but I do worry for him based on that edit based on what we saw and also the fact that in this episode we didn't go to him for any confessionals we didn't get his view on the big team coming together where the different allegiances said we didn't get a great view as to why he was willing to cut Josh when he was willing to work with Josh earlier in the game and I think getting Josh voted out of this page or at this stage should put all of The Soca members in my opinion not in the sole survivor

10:41 Category because I don't understand kuna why numbers are not important to get to tribes anymore to alliances anymore like when we see the new age of Survivor they get into a merge tribe and suddenly they're just willing to cut their old players out of the game I don't get it why did Soca give up this advantage that they worked so hard for in the game winning so many immunities going into the merch if Danny does lose he's going to look back at this Josh move him and a lot of other soccer players and they're going to say why did we cut him because Josh was loyal to them yeah I mean I'm in newer or not and not as across the new era of Survivor with 42 and 43 but it's looking at it almost like an outside perspective and what the way they've got it set up in this format I feel like because the six-member tribe is so small numbers isn't like the number of advantages are so slight you win with a three two one or you know and then like they've had votes with four people and they're just not used to worrying about large numbers and majorities they just need to get that one or two and build those relationships and they've kept that going into now that there's lots of people they're still in that small tribe mentality of this was my person and this was my person not necessarily thinking I need many people in order to get further in this it's just

12:01 That no I solidified this over the last five weeks or not five weeks that's not the entire thing is only but you know five episodes for us yeah I've been solidifying this and now I have to do a complete mindset change and build the numbers in another way which I've not been doing yet and I don't know if it's just there's a like just it's the merge episode it's the first time that they're actually coming together and they might get into that and start realizing I could be completely off but coming in so I was like yeah they're not used to like when we see the Australian Survivor in these massive tribes your whole game set is to build those numbers because it's you have to have that but you're just used to small groups small numbers small thing and now adjusting to a much bigger picture I think is a is an adjustment they're yet to show anyway so maybe a few people are being caught out by being in a big tribe now where they're just not counting the numbers because the pre-merchief becomes so individualistic because we've got these smaller tribes it's a very good point there I'm leaning personally to let's put them at the edge of Soul Survivor for now because the thing is if next week's episode is a big episode for him and we suddenly start getting a lot more confessionals from him I don't think we can count them out yet I think he's an a player that

13:21 Does work outside of the box you know he's willing to out hustle a lot of people out there getting the idol planting a fake Idol you know I do think he's got some game having an idle actual Idol still on him means he could still survive for one round if his specific Alliance gets targeted really early on so I could go either way let's review it again when we get to the end of this power ranking if we need to knock him down one or keep him up there one of the reasons why I may be bump him up slightly is because in my head the top tier players that would be grouped with him I think towards the end of the game he would have a physical advantage over that's a very good point so that's why that's why I'm like oh he may be able to get a couple extra ranking points to me because he is such a physical threat as well so that's part of it but I'm happy that yeah he's borderline for me too so it could be like a Mike Holloway you know like maybe he wins it four or five a minute just towards the end and he ends up winning it and I think that Jeff would still like that type of season because Jeff does like when somebody goes against the momentum of the game but yeah let's see how it plays out towards the end off the power rankings here I've got the mic we're going to talk about Franny next now Freddie for me at this point and I think that this is where you may or may not agree with me on this one I feel like the internet is

14:42 Definitely going to disagree with me on this one but I think Franny is on the edge I don't think she's in control of the game I don't think she's got the social connections right now to go deep because she lost Claire very early on that someone that she wanted she didn't get away with Danny and Heidi keeping her at that point and I don't think she is as close to Heidi as close to Heidi as Danny is to Heidi at this point and the biggest thing for me with her and both Matt in the game right now I feel like we're seeing their Journey them being in the showmans means one of them are gonna get sniped I think within the next couple of episodes we saw on the next on Survivor that Lauren says we need to cut that out that is a danger to us now out of the two of them maybe Franny being one of the few girls left in the game Lauren will be more open to keeping for any over Matt because you don't necessarily want to get rid of all the girls immediately after the merch if they if they are a Dying Breed out there but for me personally I'm not overly optimistic about French is she a fun character yes was I impressed with her challenge performance in this last specific challenge where they had to earn emergency ran up that ramp on her own yes so I could be persuaded but where do you sit on Franny at the moment Kuna friendly is one of the ones that I have difficulty placing and when I say difficulty it would be between

16:02 On the edge and spy Shack mainly because I guess when I was going through the power rankings in my head it's not necessarily for end game who's gonna win it's more like what are the what is their position today what is how danger what is their danger today and to me I don't I didn't put Franny right at the bottom but I don't see her making any moves right now I don't see a path for her necessarily to win but I also don't think she's on the edge just next week or you know she could be the mentioning that you said that Lauren's sort of brought it up and it's not the first time that they're trying to hide their relationship and doing a very poor job at it holding hands in the shelter very obvious yeah and it's only going to get more obvious I think as time goes by so you could be very right I'm not going to necessarily argue with her with you on that but I did put her originally in but happy to say yeah on the edge because I don't see it going to the end I just don't know if we'll be like immediate if you know what I mean so let's put on the edge we do the Danny thing I gave you Danny as the sole survivor you're giving me Franny here negotiating we're negotiating you know this is all it's about and I think that we're doing what Angelina would be proud of you know there's always a negotiation that can happen on these types of Power

17:22 Rangers but at the end of it we can re-modify make some final tweaks if we feel like we need to based on where people are ending but I also want to say Franny going against Josh like I said I feel very low on The Soca tribe for doing that I know a lot of people applauded the move to get Josh out at the merch I think it was a very bad move by so okay just because they wanted to get rid of him before the merge they had absolutely no connection to yam and Carolyn at this point in the game so Carolyn and yam would have 100 been the right move for Soca to vote out I understand why they wanted to work with some of the ratu members because Jamie is from there and she was now part of The Soca members in the game as well but to me the right move was always going to be Carolyn or yam at this point so because of that I can't Market too high and it's not her fault alone it was a collective but I also didn't see the show portraying it that she was trying to save him at those this point because that could be a number and she just didn't trust them so I'm really interested to see what the behind the scenes interviews are going to be like for Josh and the others and I hope people ask them the question why was Josh perceived as the sneaky player because he kind of reminds me of Benjamin from Australian Survivor where everybody thought he was the sneaky player but where's the audience just couldn't see it Kona kuna you've also got the mic if you want to say anything on Franny go ahead and then after that go into Heidi and where you would

18:42 Place her Heidi I've got Franny no I think that's pretty good on Franny I was just laughing at how you said Josh being similar to Ben I was like Ben's Idol didn't fall apart well he tried to trick someone with it which is so great I couldn't believe like James was like that's from Gmail we got it today Heidi for me is a straight spy Shack I don't think we've seen enough from her to really gauge whether she's like that's probably a bad sign in and of itself when you don't get enough from people you probably think they're on the edge but I don't have enough from her to think that she's on the outs either like she's gonna be on the edge or not showing she's just kind of floating by I think that what maybe her downfall is I've seen a couple times now where people will approach her and she's maybe that little bit too honest where she's she will say oh let me think about it or you know and won't sort of it might do her well those people that don't try to deceive you know that the thing is if someone comes to you say yes right yeah sure of course I'll be in Alliance with you and you say that to everyone but and sometimes it comes back to buy them Heidi could have a thing where she's now being honest and that could work in her favor but usually it doesn't you say something to someone they don't like what they hear they go running around and then the target becomes you so

20:02 I am scared of that for Heidi but so far I haven't seen enough to say confidently that she's on the edge and definitely not enough to say that she's in the top tier either Soul Survivor so I'm putting it in the middle for me but I don't know because there's not much there so far I don't think yeah you're slightly higher than me on her I had her on the edge I didn't really think through if she would be ahead or behind Franny on that ranking and that's what we can now start looking at it is she ahead of Brandon is she potentially behind Franny in the game she's one of those players where if she wins I would not be surprised because if she does win she'll be the Erica of the Season where the editors just decided not to tell us the full story behind what Heidi did and we'll get to hear about the great game she had from other players in the postseason interviews and they'll talk about the social game that we didn't see they'll talk about the fact that you know her and Franny was actually very close and Franny built all these alliances for her you know it'll be like this whole show we didn't witness basically happening if she does win but based on what we're seeing I feel low on her at this stage her closest person in the game is Danny I think frenny and Matt knows that as well if Danny does become a Target him and Brandon being a Target I think she's easier to take out than both of those physical guys who can win

21:22 A lot of challenges not saying that Heidi couldn't I mean she was very capable of making a fire and why did we see that early on in the season you've got to ask yourself maybe she ends up getting a fire challenge in the final four and goes to the end who knows but I don't feel strong enough about her being on the edge to put her there so my biggest question to you now is she ahead of Brandon or is she behind Brandon on that spy share category see I'll tell you what I was thinking as well and I don't know if this is a like you know how sometimes you get a theory in your head and then you sort of fantasize to the point where it's like no that's the way it's going to play out I have nothing to base that on I've got no evidence in my head I just and maybe this is subconscious bias which I'm willing to admit if that's there as well but in my head I just imagined that once they got to merge I just pictured her in gen jam with the Puerto Rican thing with that group of a jam a Carolina Carson they are kind of even though to me right now they are the top tier group and I think that the people that are going to be featured predominantly or prominently they feel like a little bit of the group of Misfits they don't look like they go together but they are and I feel like Heidi in my head kind of fits into that group I

22:43 Haven't seen it yet there's no relationship there I don't even know if it's gonna happen I could be well off I just got a vibe that I was like I don't see her matching Danny and Brandon as much as she would with the others but I could be well off there is she ahead of Brandon based on the fact that she seems to have a very strong relationship with Danny whereas Brandon's relationship with Danny was based off of one conversation because they have cool muscles and Tattoos so I would say she's above Brandon in that regard and I don't think she'll have his big of a Target individually now that we're in the you know the challenge portion where big threats get targeted first you could you convinced me I wasn't going to put a above Brendan but you know you definitely made a strong case they I don't know it's a lot of it's hypothetically you know these people that's why finding some connections down the line but the Puerto Rican connection wasn't something that I even thought about coming into this you don't you can't always rely on that because I mean both yam and Josh Were Gay they had something in common that they could talk about out there and they ended up targeting each other just like Romeo and Hyde did a couple of seasons ago I don't think that's a season that you watch but you know at the end of the day those commonalities don't always come up as something that is positive I want to go into the player here next which according to her we should be putting her right at the top of Soul Survivor

24:03 It is a foregone conclusion that Jamie will win Survivor season 44. but Kahuna I don't know what she's seeing like she is full on it that she's going to get there listen I love let me just put it out there I love Jamie as a character she's actually quite refreshing because we've got a season with Carolyn already we've got a season with yam already I didn't know that we had space for another big character this season but we do Jamie is another really big character I love the fact that she is so confident in her own ability and the connections that she has but I also think that she has done some things in the game where she's really misreads certain situations like the whole thing with Franny and Matt she was the one player that couldn't see that they were together and she wanted to Target Matt in front of Franny which I don't think is a great thing I don't again I don't know where she sits like I don't I don't feel like she's out of the game I'm very confident she's in spy Shack the thing is just where do we put her Inspire because she does have connections she has been on both tribes and I don't think people are coming after her immediately so I can see her definitely sliding for a few more rounds before people start voting for her Kono how do you feel about Jamie and I'm gonna put it at the back of spy Shack for now and you tell me if you agree season spy Shack and where you would put it Jamie Lynn I went for me I went

25:23 Bling on the edge bling delusional bling doesn't know what she's doing bling she says that she's the most valuable player on the season bling I do think she's pretty great actually she's a lot of fun but I don't I don't you know what to me she has a little bit of Caroline to her because she's got that wackiness but she's not getting that serious side that I said the editors are putting in for Carolyn where they're adding in because Carolyn is a character but they're trying to make her look like a legitimate player and showing and highlighting some of the good things I'm not seeing that with Jamie liners but I think they're just playing it off as fun they're just playing it off as for Laughs because even with Carolyn as crazy as she is they're showing us talks at night to be silent with Carson and we can be this the Three Stooges but no one really knows about it they're planting ideas that there's something going on here and with Jamie Lynn I don't get that vibe from her at all at least from the show and another really good point and I do agree with you she probably should go down to on the edge here listening to you there the thing that we also know now that we've heard exit press is that Jamie legitimately was in

26:43 Danger in that first round when she played his shot in the dark there were people talking about voting for her but the show went out of its way to show us her being paranoid playing that making us think that she played it when she didn't need it why did they do that they clearly did it to discredit her as a player and in our minds subconsciously we're looking at Jamie now as a player that didn't have a good read at that first Tribal Council you know Pyridium was on the channel and he said it's not sexy to talk about the edit but you can't not talk about the edit sometimes when you're fans like us that have watched so many seasons you notice these subtle hints that it producers are giving us now the question remains where does she fit in with Franny is she above or below Franny and I was also looking at training when I thought about pushing her back down to the edge I've got to say you're right Franny's got someone in front of her and Matt that will take a bullet for her in the game I don't think Jamie's got that so just due to that alone she should probably be below Franny on the list there as well next person is going to be Carson and you're going to be the one who starts us off on Carson where would you put Carson and what do you think his game is like at the moment I think I spoiled it already but for me Carson is sole survivor category he's top tier s t god T whatever you want to do for this season that's Carson he's been

28:04 Shown in such a great light getting out to another tribe building relationships to the point where he was almost the number one for people like that had already been on a tribe for ages and he's kind of got that then now that he's in the merge he's still got Carolyn Jam available to him he's gone back linked back up with them he did the puzzle thing today which is like we've been saying that he 3D printed it's going to pay off at some point like there's so much going for him that's painting him in a good light he's even like looking really like Rogue like ruggedly handsome at Tribal Council and stuff like he's growing out of the nerd thing I didn't like the big F up that he did today by letting Josh not Josh Kane know that he was on The Chopping Block I think I liked it big mistake he did like it I like it I like it I like I know I know that Brandon came at him a little bit for that but I think that Carson is the one player in the game that can do that and get away with it because he's got that innocent smile Sarah said it the best she said I shouldn't trust him but you know he's this innocent looking nerdy player in the game that is everybody's little brother and he gets away with it because of that and clearly he's got that social game where Brandon didn't seem like Brandon wrote them off Brendan was like oh you made a mistake

29:24 There you know but he's still willing to work with Carson after that where I think the amount of social credit that he gained from Kane with that one move is gonna be the reason why Kane is going to go with us Alliance and he's going to pull that number in so I think that he just bought himself a very loyal number and there's no way you kind of made the case for why Carson doesn't want to work with Brandon in the end game earlier he doesn't want to be working with Danny and Brandon and going up against them in physical immunity challenges or endurance immunity challenges at the end so I think he made the best move for him in the game and sort of to finish it off on casting a little bit from my end I feel very strongly he's playing the best game at the moment in the game I think he's number one he's my winner pick at this stage the only fear that I have for Carson is that if he builds these very strong social connections like I've said on a few podcasts before and he cuts people will they forgive him or is he going to have a bit of jury at the end like how does he cut people and let them go when they're trusting this little brother they have out there on the island the person who's they that they want to go to the end with that's a very delicate balance that he needs to keep there and I think that very few players have got the skill to do it but I at this point I obviously feel like he can and that's what I think personally I think Carson's playing the best game out there at the moment because no one's seeing it I did too when I said that the telling Kane I thought it was

30:44 A mistake not necessarily for his game per se because you're right I think it's smart to have Kane on board as a number they've got that geeky nerdy relationship which was really fun and cool to see and I know Brandon is not going to hold it against it I meant why I thought it was a mess stuff up was because by choosing to potentially save Kane it looked like the Fallout was going to be Genji and became where the spotlight went and I thought that could have been a very big it turns out that it wasn't in the end like the end result but I do think making that decision at the time was a mistake and could have really killed these Alliance by when Kane like they're gonna freak out they're gonna try to say themselves yeah I want Kane around but he had to think what was the flowing effect if it's not if Kane moves the vote off him it would have been Josh and jam which it was and if Josh did have an idol which Carolyn swore black and blue to everyone and No One Believes that he didn't but if he did then it would have been Jam and Carson would have been the one that sort of made that happen by putting Kane onto it so that's the only reason why I meant it I do like him having Kane on board I do think I would rather have a cane there than a Brandon or a Danny at the end but I just thought it was so risky where the Fallout

32:04 Could have landed he sort of skated by a bit but that wasn't a he got the good result and he's definitely in the best position but it wasn't because it was a spectacular gameplay that it ended up that way but beyond that like you said we're seeing so much more from Carson as far as gaming and playing it out and really setting himself up in a great position relationships across the board no one hates him no one's worried about him no one's like he's set for now and he's got his Three Stooges almost on the download where people are so not worried about them a because they're a tiny group like Tikka essentially now that Josh was gone people I think Carson is just is so good people don't associate him with tick anymore so it's really just Jam and Caroline people think Carolyn's crazy they're not thinking about her at all but really Carson's got that Groove and all the other numbers in there and you're right he's definitely at the top of the group at the moment I think so I just want to say when we look at that and we say that a mistake was made it very well could have been the other part of that and the other counter argument is that we're assuming that he sees yam as more important to him than Kane and I'm not convinced that he does yes the edit is showing us The Three Stooges yes and maybe there's

33:25 A reason for that if we want to go into the edit but you know Kane at the end of the day they've got that nerd Alliance and nerds stick together like they said in the game so I feel like there's a possibility and I'm not saying he did there's a possibility he thought that through and he knew that the collateral damage was that yamien would go but him being the glue between both yam and Carolyn in the game means that if yam goes Carolyn's not going anywhere he keeps her as an alliance member maybe the fact that he's bonded with Kane out there that he feels he's got a stronger bond with Kane than someone like gambian who can be unpredictable and sometimes says things that he shouldn't be saying out there maybe those are things he took into his calculation I don't know that for a fact but I'm just putting it out there that it could have been controlled everything I'm seeing from Carson so far has impressed me and the editor a lot of fun with him this specific episode as well because when he said we're now going into the merge and I want to create some chaos they had the fire reflecting in his glasses as he was saying it and they sort of had that close-up and I thought that was such a cool little editing thing that they did and clearly the editors Tim Carson at this stage it's very clear all right let's move on to the next person who we spoke about him a bit Kane in the game now Kane is someone that for me personally if you ask me a week or two weeks ago where do you rank them older cities

34:45 On the edge but Kane suddenly has some powerful friends in the game which coming into this one I actually had him at Soul Survivor and I had him at the edge of Soul Survivor potentially You could argue pop of spy Shack for me but that's kind of where I see him at this point because Kane is someone that made a big mistake early in the game kind of like Chris Daughtry didn't Survivor Vanuatu early on struggled but then found his way back in the game and he's now got his person in Carson so by definition of being a very close person to Carson in the game he's probably going to go deep in this game and then it comes down to just winning one or two challenges potentially being a final three and then he's got people in the game that he's played with from a very early stage that are on the jury that potentially could still vote for him because he found a way in the game to survive and we've always seen his story there's a whole character development around him you know wrongly singing the Canadian song The Dungeons and Dragons thing that's going to come back next week it looks like he might find a key to the new bird cage Idol maybe on the merge tribe so these potential for came to still become a big player and I feel like he's had enough of a story around him that people will get behind him he's The Lovable Underdog so for me I think with the way that the game is set up currently I'm kind of sitting age of Soul Survivor maybe top of spy

36:05 Shack but I'm going to put them on the edge of Soul Survivor now and I'll give you an opportunity to let me know where you think it should be this is the this is the one where we diverge the most I have him on the edge well I'm very glad that I put them on Soul survival because our agreement prior to coming into this was that we can't go too down so that means by virtue of that he will be on the spice Shack somewhere so now I'm gonna have him at the top of spy Shack because that's what we're gonna determine he should be at but you've got to tell me why you feel so low on him and why we should move him down on the Spy share category so he definitely started out the season on a porn with a really like sort of Papa kind of episode only not wanting to say Brandon but then saying his name anyway convinced and then being the only one that ended up voting for him was crazy and I just thought that like he wasn't the only one he wasn't the only one who was both him and Mary but obviously yeah but he has recovered from it but his name came up again today like it's come up again and once that's sort of the thing and when you say like his relationship with Carson for me it was like no I get it I and you said we don't know if the relationship Carson has would he choose Jam over a cane or a cane

37:25 Over a jam but to me I think today what it showed was he let Kane know he wasn't very proactive in protecting that although he didn't say no how about someone else or try to talk Brandon out of it or even offer up another option all he did was give the information to Kane so he can scramble and get out was there a protective a proactive what can I do to protect my number like we would see say for example like a George would do to get the number off someone that he is keeping because he knows he's important to him he's yeah if he's around great I get along with him and like he could be a number so if he's here great but I'm not gonna put my game at Jeopardy I'm not going to do anything at all really he just sat down next to him on the sand and said hey by the way your name came up and then that was it Carson went like that so when you say he might drag him all the way to the end I haven't seen it yet so Kane has his name come up he's pissed off Brandon who has or so far looks like he may be in with a Danny who's in with a Heidi you know cut Carson yes he's friends with Kane but so far he hasn't shown that he's going to go to the mats for him and protect him at all he hit but we have seen discussions By Moonlight in the dark in quiet with

38:45 Jam with Carolyn and if we're talking about edit they're showing us yeah he's friends with Kane but he's not doing much for him these other people he's going and actually trying to say we're going to run the game with them I don't know that's where I that's how I sort of landed it's interesting because Carson also let us know in this specific episode that he's not willing to play a proactive in front game he wants to sit back let the big targets take each other out and then create his Alliance around that but I would argue him letting Kane in on that information is him trying to save Kane in a way and let Kane scramble because he could have just sat on that information being the fact that he wants to sit back and play that non-proactive game at this point I think it's very valuable for him to go out and say this to Kane but I'm willing to consider to let him drop one spot let's put him sort of mid spy shakers item at the top so I feel like that's maybe a good place for him to sit we're going to move into the next person here which is Lauren how do you feel alone Lauren I've got in spy Shack so she's got an extra vote that's a plus against her name she hasn't doesn't seem to have any big worries as far as being next on the chopping block or being on the target for anyone but she's also doesn't seem to be that deeply connected I know she's close with Brandon but

40:06 Brandon's already dropping hints that he's you know trying to do things with Danny is that going to be a clash I don't know where she falls if we're talking about two main counter alliances that we think are going to try to prepare to go head to head I don't even know how she fits into those two right she might like yeah so I don't know if she's if there are going to be can I just says she's at the bottom of Eva for me yeah and for that very reason just for what you just said there I had it as my lowest person on the edge like I had a right at the bottom of all the players oh really okay I don't have much hope for Aaron at this stage and it saddens me to say this because you know you both we both know I like Lauren when we saw the preseason package coming in I was like high on her but the lack of content that we've had around her has been alarming yes Heidi has had a lack of content but we saw very valuably that Heidi and Danny was very close that relationship was explained to us the relationship between Lauren and Brandon we heard about an exit interviews we've never seen them really be close in the game or connected so I don't think there's anybody that's willing to defend her right now she was the person that I said Josh would be the merge boot if it's not Josh it's Lauren those are the two people and nothing this episode has convinced me that she's someone that a

41:26 Lot of players will want to play with in the game and they know everybody openly knows she's got this extra vote so at some point she's either going to play it next episode which will be very valuable if she does or they're going to say we need to get rid of that extra vote before it becomes too dangerous in the game so having an open public advantage that doesn't this that doesn't necessarily save you in the game I think is a bad thing for at this point so for me personally I kind of feel like she sits there but I would like you to think about from your end when you look at Jamie and Franny do you think she deserves to be above both of them because at the moment if you're saying spice check that kind of lets me think that she should be yeah above both of them I don't think she should be above Franny personally I'll just put that out there because for any at least has got Matt in the game and we know that relationship yeah you're right I don't think she's higher than Franny I don't know why I'd like to like you said it might just be splitting hairs to be honest with you I cut geez I had her in spy Shack only because I don't have enough to think that she's going like I haven't seen hints that she's not going to go anywhere either you know what I mean when you get the little thing of that she could be in danger there's literally nothing that's why I didn't put her at the bottom either because well at least she was the one that was commenting that Franny my the power couple might need to go next week so but I feel like Lauren's going I feel like because

42:46 Of her bringing that hit to differenti finds a home with the likes of a Carson and a Carolyn and a cane and those kind of people that they had something in common and maybe that's a bias like you said that I have I'm seeing something where these different people have got a lot of commonalities that will make them work together in this game and I just have a feeling she's in danger so I think we've got a good spot for her there for now we've got three and three so it looks really good going into this final I'm happy to put it down even more so because you said something that made me like think as well when her open and public second vote I think it solidified I just realized now like what a great move it was by Carson as well for him to because he gave nothing yeah his Idol's dead now he goes my Idol's dead now I'll put it out there because it's open information it's finished she then filter the peer pressure and said sure if we're sharing I'll say it and she don't need to do that at all like so yeah great I'm happy to I'm convinced on the edge and it was a little plus again for custom we've done the right thing putting him there I think yeah all right so we're gonna go into the next person here which is Matt and Matt I don't feel like I can put him above for any to be honest with you I feel like he's behind her and

44:07 You know looking at that he was on my Edge and that's why when we came into this I told you I've got probably more people on the edge than not I have to put him behind Franny at a very minimum because I feel like his game has revolved around Franny and he's got googly eyes right now he came into the game heartbreak found a new love now everything that he's doing in the game seems like I mean I saw a good thing with him saying to her that if he does win a reward in an amenity he won't take her but I feel like at this point it doesn't matter Matt because everybody knows that you're together so you might as well take her there spend some quality time with her in the game and we've just not seen him get much right strategically yet in the game like everything that he's done so fast kind of blown up in his face a little bit and we've had like the goofy music playing when he got the fake Idol we had you know him loses vote twice which is a problem that I have a pet peeve that I have with the current meta of how this game or the structure of how Survivor is playing over in the US right now but I don't feel positive enough that he is above Franny and I don't feel low enough on him that he's below the two ladies that is to his right where do you sit on Matt yeah I mean originally I had when we said I had very few people that are completely on the edge so I just had him as a random in the middle because he does have a power couple but a relationship

45:28 He does seem to be quite likable but you're right I'm happy to keep him on the edge below Franny because I think his priority is Franny more than the game probably well now this person this next person yum I feel like this is the one that I came into this thinking that we're gonna probably disagree with the most and I feel like fans will disagree I was high on yam coming into the merch I thought he had a decent enough shot and I even said I think one of the winners will be from the Tikka tribe when I was on Russell muscle but what I saw off this merge episode made me extremely worried for Yam in the game currently he's got no relationships in the game outside of Carson and Carolyn Carson is not willing to go out of his way to protect jamium in the game like you said he's even willing to potentially he's happy with either Kane or yamyam at this point and that's an option for him in the game he's Carson was the glue between Carolyn and yam Carolyn even trust them 100 in the game at this point you know so I feel like they both would be okay if he does end up going next and we keep seeing him say too much you know he talked to Danny didn't really receive it well when he said where are we gonna vote I'll I'm happy to put Josh out there luckily Josh is gone now so it's not going to backfire in this game

46:48 But I feel like yam to me is a big question mark on where he's going to end I came into this one thinking that he's on the edge but I can be convinced for him to be somewhere on the Spy Shack where do you sit on yam are you more positive on yam than I am because I am very low on him from what I saw from the merch I really think he's the weak link out of The Three Stooges right now I'm still getting his Soul Survivor I've still got in top tier no chance I can't budge on this one I can't budge like he can he potentially turn it around 100 does he have a story around him 100 but to me he's a very sloppy player at this point in the game so I can't see him that high man I was I was actually I'm the opposite I feel really bad now because I'm like am I takes that cold that Mr T and T himself is complete opposite in Spectrum to me as of last week before today's episode before episode six seven six yeah before episode six after episode five I was more down on him he was on the outs he did not fall on the right side of the vote with Sarah Carolyn was getting the shits with him he was kind of out of it and then when they didn't have to go he looked like he was getting back in with Carolyn then the merge happened I'm like oh no the momentum's

48:08 Coming back for James M now he's hooked back up with Carson there's plenty more targets around that would be stand out more than him I was like okay like he's not at the patron like episode one pre-season we thought there's no chance he doesn't do anything but win and I was like that's gone but now I was like oh no I can see it sort of they're painting the picture a little bit more that he's getting into a better position than what they've played they've shown us the last couple weeks and that's where I was I was like maybe if I looked at this week in isolation it wouldn't look that great but I looked in this week in comparison or contrast to the last two weeks and I thought he's on the he's on the upward trajectory for me yeah I mean listen he was one out of three people in that tribe he was never gonna go home last episode it was always going to be Josh because Carolyn and him started working together again so I was higher on him prior to the merge but now he's coming to the merge he's had Josh run around saying that game's not trustworthy he's not somebody that you should work with in the game so that story is out there he was an option so I can't see at this point how he can be put any higher than Kane because he was an OP option to be voted out his name was already out there he's saying too much similar to how Kane is also I think not reacting too well to being on the Block and running straight to Brandon

49:29 Nervous and talking a lot so I think the argument in my mind becomes who is higher between Kane and yam at this point that to me is the argument and I think that's where we previously also had our differences in regards to what it Carson do does Carson care more about Kane or yam but both of them are simply a pawn in Carson's game at this stage they're not sole survivor contenders yet now this doesn't mean for those that are listening because I know there's a lot of yam stands out there doesn't mean that this person can't work their way from the bottom to become a sole survivor I'm just talking about up until episode six where I feel and why I sit on him currently so where would you put him I've got a feeling you would put him above Kane right I would I would because of the relationship with Carolyn as well so Carolyn I think when she did the math she said that with Jam it's like 94 and with Carson it's 99.8 or something like that like she said that she feels much closer but she still put James relationship up over 90 so I don't know if so yeah like even if Carson may be slightly favored Kane over a jam janjin still has Carolyn Moore in her his Corner than a cane never would like Karen doesn't know cane from anything right so if it depends on how much influence or sway Carolyn

50:49 Has in that Trio is Carson completely gonna run it his own way and he makes a choice over Kane overcast or does Carolyn have a say is Carolyn the Jerry to Carson's George yeah now I'm not going to disagree with you I think that he probably fits well above candy and I feel very happy about most of these rankings there's one last amendment I potentially want to make to this but first because we've locked it in you need to agree to this I've been looking at Franny and I'm looking at Brandon and I kind of feel like they need to be switched in this ranking at the moment I feel like for any has a better shot still in the game than Brandon I don't think people are gonna Thursday I think if they come after the couple they're going after Matt first like we've said I think he's the person who's going to get sniped before her I do think she's got a strategic mind in there that can maneuver within the game and I think that Brandon is going to be seen as that Alpha guy a lot of the times at the merge you don't want both Brandon and Danny too deep into the game so one of those two guys one of the brochachos is going to get targeted with no Carolyn wants them out of the game as well and I think that the person who doesn't have the idol is the biggest risk at this stage so in my mind if you're open to it I'm actually kind of considering swapping both Franny and Brandon over but if you don't agree with it we stay this way because we kind of locked in prior to this

52:09 You know I would agree to that because I think I think you're right that if the couple is targeted and Matt goes I think a lot of the threat of Franny goes with it whereas Brandon is Perpetual he's going to be a forever threat and he's always going to be looked at as a threat until he's gone whereas Franny if she can move past Matt if he does leave the game she all of a sudden can slink back into the background a little bit more not standing out while the likes of a Brandon and the Danny and stuff do stand out a lot more from a physical perspective and she can start building those relationships again without having to worry about Matt being in the equation you're right he she could have a much clearer path than Brandon I think all right well there you have it so everybody that is the power rankings here for this week we've got Carson Carolyn and Danny in the best spot to win this game followed by Heidi yamyam Kane and Franny and the spice Shack we're still waiting for their game to head up a little bit and then on the edge the players that we think will be going home next week is going to be Brandon Matt Jamie or Lauren it'll be exciting next week Kahuna to see if we got it right and if one of those four players are actually going to be out of the game let us know in

53:29 The comments section below what did you think of these rankings what's your own personal Power Rankings where would you put these players as you can see even myself and kuna had very different thoughts on where we would have placed it but we found a happy middle ground in the end right Guna that was good man really good that's to be said with two men negotiating we put them in you know we'll figure it out we'll do we'll two minds meet it's always a good thing yeah 100 so if you are watching still at this stage please consider subscribing that's the best way to show support to this Channel and it's absolutely free we're on our way to 2 000 subscribers here on the channel and the more subscribers we get the more credibility we get so we can bring some great guests and former Survivor players onto the channel as well like I said put a notification Bell on so you know when we go live and that's it here kuna for this week any final thoughts before we sign off nothing yeah that's a good one man I enjoyed it all right grab your torches head back to Camp we'll catch you guys next week