Survivor 45: Episode 10 Review

0:15 [Music] [Music] a [Music] [Music] [Music] welcome back to the nullified Tech channel on you YouTube where we've got the TNT takes for you on Survivor 45 episode 10 that is right we are back it is a full house because not only is it myself Kahuna and Jake on the podcast but we' finally got none other than coach Drew himself on the channel and Coach throwing the mic right over to you here as our honorary co-host of this episode Scott is saying it is one of the best seasons of Survivor ever certainly the best of the new era how do you feel about this season so far because we haven't had the opportunity to talk to you this whole

1:36 Season I think you're on mute yeah well I'm glad to be here I know it took a while but no I'm really loving this I mean I'm one of these people that you know since 41 I have said that I am enjoying it I understand people's qualms with the new era but I've enjoyed them for the most part and I would say this is probably Peak New Era right now I feel like the cast just watching and I think it helps that we throw back because every episode I'm being reminded of people that have left like oh that person was cool oh yeah you remember that and I feel the the main Testament to this season is the fact that it is still very Advantage heavy and loss of vote heavy and all that and we don't care it's very similar to like David versus Goliath which was also very Advantage heavy but people always put that in their top five and you know ever we're still fairly early in the season but I feel like if the season continues to play out like it does now first of all I wouldn't like I wouldn't be upset with anyone winning or with anyone not winning this time if that makes sense but if it ends the right way I could see this being a top 10 season for sure yeah absolutely yeah as long as D or Austin doesn't win I'm with you it's going to be a great season you know we'll all be very

2:56 Very happy by the end of this I know Kahuna probably wouldn't agree with that but kuna welcome to the show obviously you sort of carried on the torch last week with Jake and at the podcast while I wasn't around to do that what did you think of this week do you agree with Chris the best thing about this episode is that everybody had their votes the best thing about this episode I feel like I mean the votes thing was great just leaving them alone letting have their votes see how it plays out always a good option when you down to this many people but one thing that I really like about this episode and maybe one of the things I've Loved most about any episode of Survivor looking at the three of you the four of us together here I feel like there should be some Kenny loggin playing very loudly a lot of high fives some fist bumps poses fighting all over the place that was one of my favorite montages in the history of survivor man it was so much fun and I'm just looking at we got a boys night is that what this is this is the boys night it's a boys night you know we won't let one rip while we're live that's all I'm going to say that's not happening on this podcast if you're coming for that I feel like twitch is the place with those things happen these days not YouTube okay going over to Jake hello welcome back to the podcast how are you feeling hitting into this week

4:16 I know that for the first time since a very long time one of us will be equal with you in the draft with only having two players left in the game what's keeping you motivated this season since you've kind of been out of the draft early on I'm not motivated I stopped watching it sorry I probably should have told you before I make it yeah I just pretend like I'm I know what's going on no but what's motivating me to keep watching Chris come on I love Survivor I'll keep watching no matter what good a bad really bad start for me in fantasy but two guys I got left I think that they could make some make some stuff happen 100% And we're going to talk about all of that let's say hello to everybody here in the live we've got Chris in the live Scott is in the live Jay is in the live as well we've got Jared back in the live also Gabe and j e did I say Jay twice well Jay welcome twice you know it's great to have everybody here every week talking some Survivor with us we'll bring up the comments as we go through this as normal I'll try and pull up the ones that are relevant to the conversation but let's get into this episode top eight with day eight everybody goes back Drew is very fixated on getting Bruce out of the game Bruce has been a thorn in the side of

5:36 Everybody because he keeps winning those damn immunities and by the end of this episode obviously we know that's not going to be a thing but they're very focused on removing him from the game heading into the morning next day here we get a very emotional scene between Julie and Drew Kahuna Julie talking about the fact that it's not easy and we've known this for a long time to be the older lady playing Survivor because you kind of get put into that mother category which means that if you backstab someone it hurts that much more because imagine your mother voting you out of the game you know it's okay for a daughter to vote out a mother but not a mother to vote out a daughter kuna what did you think of this scene this emotional scene between Drew and Julie early on in this episode I mean I appreciated it in the fact that Julie genuinely seems like a like a great person in real life as well and the fact that she's struggling that hard with what is essentially a game and people that sometimes like myself look at a game very cynically and go it's a game you play the game and we kind of been you know botted meta like strategy botted over 20 years of watching this game whereas there are still people that are like I struggle with being deceitful I struggle with it but the thing that I Love About Mama J is that she's verbalizing that she's having

6:56 Struggles with it she's saying that she's having struggles with it but she's still doing it very well and to be able to overcome that inner voice of saying this is wrong don't do this and still play the game and go to you know the final seven here she's doing great I think that's pretty good to be able to have that struggle and still be able to control it or overcome it when you need to I think is pretty important in a game like Survivor yeah like coach Drew you're someone that's watched Survivor for a very long time you've seen the story play out multiple times over multiple Seasons where the older lady maybe doesn't get the respect at the end maybe someone is looking at her as this mother figure they trusted her they she betrayed them she played a good game but she doesn't get the votes at the end what do you think of Julie's strategy this season and being so open about it even at Tribal Council talking about the fact like listen I am the older person so it's going to hurt more it's Str I'm struggling to look at the people on the jury right now do you feel like her being transparent and open about it maybe gets the jury to think differently about Julie's game if she gets to the end do you like this move from her cuz I feel like she's doing it on purpose she's a lot more vulnerable and open about it than maybe other people have been before her yeah she's not being C about it and I feel like that's not even just older women certain people will just go up there and say all Shucks like I didn't mean to or this or that it's like no

8:17 Just tell the truth at this point they're already gone yes they still have that vote at the end and their vote will be determined based off of whatever they determin it off of but the worst thing you can do there is go up there just be like oh shucks like I had no idea what was going on or I'm so sorry blah I feel like her just saying yeah I did it and it sucks and I'm I don't want to be looked at as a horrible person because I'm not a horrible person and you know I feel like it was an editing trick they show Kendra react to something I'm fairly certain that wasn't anything that she actually said in the moment but I mean I'm convinced that Julie like if I were to write the seven left I'd say Julie has probably the second or third best chance at winning because she is being out front with it and because like people are deeming her as a thread I feel like in you know past Seasons older women if they don't get to a certain point or if they do get to a certain point and haven't done anything then they're just like oh yeah that this person's here but like what is she really gonna do I feel like because her name came up in this episode even though it was just from Bruce I feel that might put some seeds in people's heads like yeah Julie came to play and her performance trial Jake also I think well it was Bruce this episode but also

9:37 Jake a couple of rounds ago yeah but I feel like Julie's in a she's still in a good spot because you know of everybody else that's with her but I wouldn't be surprised if people decided oh yeah take her to fire because we could be screwed if she gets to the end I wonder Jake how aware Julia is of her position in the game because I've got a similar read to Drew here I think that Julie's got an actual shot at winning this game depending on who she sits next to at the end here but she feels at this stage in the game that maybe and I think this is why we got this scene I do feel like the editing is ramping it up towards Julie betraying the rebba alliance at some point in the game that's what I think we're seeing is the right move for Julie moving forward in the game right now to turn against the Alliance that she's been working with for such a long time and if she turns against them who do you think is the best person to take out in the game right now for Julie's game moving forward first of all I think it is the right move especially like now like now would actually be like the perfect time I think even last tribal would have been maybe one too early because there would be too many people left you might get outnumbered by the

10:57 Others but right now if her and Emily can make something happen and if she takes out all the reeba other Reba and she's with two of the other stragglers like Jake and coutura I mean she's got it in the bag are you kidding me you know she was in the majority Alliance sure she wasn't like calling the shots like Drew is but she was she knew her position she can show she had a strategy be in the majority make a move to flip the script and then cruise on with some of the people getting dragged along that would be an easy win so yeah I she has a she has a shot she has a I think she has a clear path one of the more clear paths than somebody like Jake or coutura or gab and you on the same wavelength as you said it Gabe came in if anyone left or to the end and win at this time yeah I mean it's hard to know because obviously I don't think that personally don't think we're seeing the winning story of a jake or rura this season so it's hard because the edit will only give us the whole story from the lens of Reba or who ever is in charge at this stage so but Jake

12:17 At least out of the two I would say very confidently Jake the way people are talking about Jake at the moment he's grasping at straws he's trying to stay in the game here's a story here's an actual story his game what is coutura story it's that she just wanted to vote our Bru yeah but I feel like that's won like but I'll say this I'll say this we've never actually heard anybody say anything bad about coutura in the game and I feel like the edit is not showing us curra's game in full they probably hyperfocused on the fact that she was constantly going after Bruce in the game because it told the story they wanted to tell but from Jake's perspective yes he's got a story but no one's talking him up based on that story everybody is like he's grabbing onto straws he's trying everything he's getting caught but at least he's trying his strategy is you know what I'm trying to say though I get what you're saying I get what you're saying but I don't think that the edit is showing curra's game that's what I'm trying to say so it's very hard for us to know true and who would have thought coming into this episode I'd be like the big coutura Defender here but I just feel like we don't we don't see enough of her to actually make that judgment so I just wanted to call that out but fair let's read a couple of comments here because a few people have said a few things since we started talking about Julie we have got Scott saying I play games of pool especially pool

13:38 Darts but when game's over I've had friends surpris with how nice and friendly I am yeah you got to you got to be able to separate from you know Game Face Scott versus non-game face Scott you know like it's a similar with a Julie like you're playing a game but it's I think it's very hard to do we know this we've watched the game for long enough people are relying on each other to survive out there it's not like where you play p for a couple hours and you leave afterwards and you're relying on the person that you're playing against to catch you food or to keep you warm at night you know I feel like that's a level of bonding that we as fans sometimes can Overlook a bit Jared says I just feel Julie has been so invin invisible in the edit and she seems more of De porn I think that Julie has had the right amount of content especially if we look at other winners from the new era I feel like she's right in the pocket because a lot of winners don't get over edited in the new era in fact it's the biggest reason why I love Drew this season I think he's a great character he's a great narrator but I feel like he's the Omar or the Jesse of this season he's going to get taken out at some point based on that unless they suddenly changed that formula for us gab says Julie can win but not against any of the Rebus totally agree with that Jay says either she betrays the Rebus or she goes home with Austin's Idol in her pocket and that's a big thing because they showed her

14:58 In the previously on Survivor still with the idol in her pocket we never saw her give the idol back you know where's that going to go if Julie does turn against that Alliance Austin was very Yeah Austin was very willing to Austin seems like Kahuna just this free spirit guy like I mean if Austin wins this season I'd be like he's like a newer and improved version of maybe like U who's it Fabio like that type of that type of character right like he's not an overly strategic Mastermind but he's a fun character and he has a lot of fun out there would you agree with that kuna yeah I mean I'm liking him a lot he's got the chill Vibe and I think we haven't seen him necessarily be in a position where he's had to do anything where he's not chill like he's had two Idols in his pocket he's got the strongest Alliance he's had like powers and he's driving on the fast lane on the autoban like everything's going his way and he's just speeding along you know and now like you know potentially he might be winning a few more IM immunities like going forward like his biggest competition for winning immunities is out as well so Austin's like chill because he hasn't had to like he hasn't had to worry at all to me right now he's like the least exciting winner like him maybe like Drew I've really enjoyed

16:19 He's done a couple of things but he's kind of in that same boat like who would have thought I would come into this podcast where I started on Emily and what I said I said no chance in hell Emily's winning this game after the first episode I went pretty hard on her in the first episode I was like she is playing a horrible game until like episode five you were like yeah still no I don't think five like I think you I think you're over exaggerating I feel like the first three episodes maybe you know I feel like five is quite deep into it but I defin I was I was but I was definitely the most the mo like I was definitely the lowest on Emily throughout the game even when she started changing and she started making these moves I was like yeah but can a liard really change their stripes you know like all their spots whatever the saying is can that really happen you know in the game it's so hard to be able to correct in the middle of the game if it's a part of your personality to be confr confrontational you know but she's done it and this edit was so kind to her this episode because the move at the end was credited to her not to anybody else to full she's almost she's almost weaponized that same confrontational attitude but instead of doing it that's people that's come to her she used it as a tool for other people it's like Jake Drew doesn't like you know what I mean like she go other people yeah Bruce no Kelly was

17:39 Against you the whole time like she redirecting it to other people so that she gets the dopamine hit but it actually serves her strategically it does because I was going to point this out two things she did really well in this episode obviously the move which we know that was credited to her but the part is that she's showing a willingness to go to those that are on the outs and provide a little bit of information to them not enough for her to hang herself in the process but for them to feel like oh wow Emily actually cared about cared about us in this game she actually treated us like a human being so you know my biggest fear was that she wouldn't have jury votes if she got to the end well two things are happening in this game right now Reba is steamrolling the game and you know if they get to the end I feel like the minority Alliance is going to feel a certain away because they were all voted out by rebba and Emily is that clear option as someone that wasn't really in the driver's seat throughout all of that she was attached to them yes but she also treated people like human beings out there like could we see another Sandra DS twine situation where she gets to the end Coach and people say well Emily is the lesser of the three evil sitting up there and she was someone who actually gave us a little bit of real information throughout the game yeah I think the part of the episode where she says you know I'm not out here trying to treat people like chess pieces

18:59 It's funny because the a certain section of the online community whenever they play online games they love playing as if everyone are chess pieces and I consistently call them sociopath which is probably the wrong word but it's the word that I use and they get upset because they always hate on Russell and all these people I'm like you guys are playing exactly like him when instead you should be playing like someone that treats people as people and so when we got that confessional with Emily I think it was you that said you know we she got a very positive edit this episode and it's true I mean she could have easily you know just acted very koi with Jake and just you know whatever happens you're not a part of it I think that Emily her story I mean being the only person left from her tribe you know from where she started you know if she gets the end and especially she Texas 2 rebas I think that she has a big potential of winning because of how she treated people on their way out I don't feel anyone feels too burned by her now I do feel like if she gets fourth people would be like oh if you had kept one of us around it's like well no at that point you know but I've Emily grew on me too because after the first episode I'm like what is this she'll be she'll be a great villain I don't think anybody liked her after episode one

20:19 She was like universally disliked which is ironic because everything that she was saying at camp like when they were talking about the pyramids and aliens and all that and she's sitting there judging them like yeah I do the same thing I judge people too when they talk about crazy stuff but everything else is like okay I think but it was the it was the unwillingness to fake it until you make it the unwillingness to just be a part of the conversation to integrate like she was like no people need to come to terms with who I am and how I look at life instead of saying I need to kind of go to where everybody else is but maybe that first tribe also wasn't the best tribe for her the personalities wasn't the personalities that she wanted to play the game with clearly she's got a great connection now with Drew and Austin in the game she wants to be close to them but there's a big challenge for Emily that lays ahead and we will talk about that in the second I just want to put out I feel like looking at some of the people in the live chat and probably even just here Emily is not on my team definitely it definitely works for me if Emily wins because it means Kahuna doesn't have the winner myself and Kahuna are pretty close from a draft perspective but if I take the draft out of consideration I feel like Emily is the most exciting winner that we could get from this season at this point because started off and I did say this to my credit early on even when I was like not liking her that much I said let's remember Chris Dy had the one of the worst starts to Survivor ever at the beginning and he turned it around

21:40 Found momentum and was one of in my opinion one of the better winners we've ever seen towards the end of the game if Emily won this season J like if she can go ahead and go up from here and I'll maybe go somewhere else because I feel like the dogs are going off on the back there good if Emily wins the season do you reckon she'd be ranking pretty high as a winner maybe the highest that we've seen in quite a few seasons it depends yeah there you go oh sorry I didn't know if you that you actually go for Jake man I don't know if she'd be I mean one of the things I look for one of the things I look for is I don't like I don't know if anybody else feels this way but if the win's too easy like it I feel like for Austin the win's going to be too easy I'm just going to be like yeah great dominant win but he's kind of going to be in that you know category of the who's the school teacher who woned in Idols Tommy he's gonna be like a Tommy he's gonna be like a Tommy he's just kind of run through the game but if Emily wins it's kind of like with her back against the wall having to work from the bottom like I just find that to be a more exciting and gratifying win I totally agree I mean I think it's you know like Nick Wilson he was he got saved by kind of similar to Emily she was saved by Hannah quitting

23:00 Because from what we know they were about to vote her out and from what we know about Dave vers Goliath they were going to vote out Nick if that guy didn't get medically evacuated so obviously Nick that didn't really like it wasn't really a huge part of his story he recovered pretty easily but you know Emily had to like you know get in a good relationship with Caleb had to talk some sense into her she had to like really like self-reflect and like realize yes I'm playing this wrong and I need to change and now she's like she like attached herself to a really powerful Alliance and looks like you know she just convinced somebody not to play their Idol when people have been saying for like days and days that you're next if you don't win immunity so I agree she would be pretty exciting especially if she you know links up with Julie and makes something happen this next episode which I think we're all kind of anticipating I'm hoping for it but the big problem that I see for that move going forward here coach Drew is that Julie is so close to D and it looks like Emily is hyper focused on D being the person within the rebar Alliance to go

24:20 Next so I kind of feel like there's a high likelihood Julie says we need to turn on the boys she goes after Drew we the scene with Emily and Drew being very close as well in this episode they had a really good conversation about strategy and it really made me realize how tight those two have grown over this time as well I feel like Emily may be less willing to go for Drew or Austin I think Austin would be a case because they could flush Idols but if it's not D do you think that think that Emily and Julie can really link up or do you feel like Julie becomes maybe the scapegoat someone that gets thrown out to the wolves with Emily kind of taking spot within the rebba alliance I mean if he was before this episode I don't think that would be the case but I think that right now if just because Julie's name is now out there in The Ether it's been presented and I mean to a lesser extent D's name has also been presented I think two weeks ago that doesn't if you if you go about it the right way the way that Emily went about things this episode and she goes about it if she decides hey maybe me and Julie probably won't work out if she goes in there and she says certain things she is she does have a way with words I think that they

25:41 Could remove Julie put Emily in that spot especially if Julie comes to her with a plan to get rid of Rea because then Emily just tells the truth and says oh yeah she's trying to turn on you right here because it's an odd number you know watching her face when she's being told when Drew tells her oh yeah Bruce has this is what happened with Bruce and she's like no but you could see in her face okay so what ctor told us is true and I feel like she's really good with retaining certain information and giving out certain information and if Julie comes to her and says hey let's get rid of someone that's not D because she's never getting rid of D she already said it let's get rid of Austin Emily just goes and says Yeah Austin she wants to get rid of you I want you around for some reason I feel like yeah I feel like Emily is like really tight with Austin and a Drew and I feel like she's not going to be willing this early to let them go she just wants D and Julie out of the way so if Julie goes home or d goes home in this next round it's in her Advantage for how she wants to play the game I don't know if it's the smartest move yet but I do think that there is a world like I said where Drew and Austin gets to the end and people on the jury maybe feel a certain

27:01 Type of way about the rebba alliance running the game taking them out one after the other and maybe Emily has seen as someone like we said earlier that have been you know forthcoming with information trying to play with different people in the game so she has less people that she has to betray at this stage in the game she only had Caleb you know coming into her to this merge and I feel like even with Caleb she did try and work with him she was pretty honest about the fact that he was on the out and he understood that she told him to play a shot in the dark BAS exactly so I feel like she's I feel like she's covered in all angles I do want to move on to Bruce right like let's move on to Bruce we haven't spoken about Bruce all that much in this podcast as of yet Drew I want to start with you how have you felt about Bruce coming back to play for that second time do you feel like he lived up to you know the expectations that Emily had of him as a player coming in with all that experience and how do you feel like you know Bruce you know just as Arc as a whole on this season have you been a Bruce fan or not I'll answer the last question first like he was fine I'm not I wasn't the biggest Bruce fan but he was he was he was great [ __ ] on television I at the beginning of this or right before right before they went out I was convinced this was going to be an all new all rury season because in my head it was why would they have one rury

28:21 On a cast this large two they've never done one it'd be crazy if they were to do that and he just go vot get voted out first then we get the first episode where Emily calls him out on the boat and it's like well yeah everyone should be saying the same thing Bruce should be gone as the season progresses and he has this one-sided rivalry of coutura I'm like okay well at some point he's got to go he doesn't go we get to the merge and then he starts weighing immunities and all of a sudden it's like wow Bruce is actually a threat and if he gets to the end if he gets to the end the season after getting you know going from worse to first he wins almost unanimously in my opinion we'll never know because he got voted out yeah I was surprised to see him go this episode because I was convinced that the target would shift to someone else like even if he didn't win I feel like the Bruce vote would be too easy but then you go into the episode and you see all this craziness that Bruce is trying to do and it's like okay it wouldn't be the craziest thing if he went home but it would still be like okay really we're going to do Bruce now and like you know what the execution is what made the episode great in my opinion but going into the episode like there's no way Bruce goes home that's the easy vote now and especially if he loses immunity there's no way and he has an

29:41 Idol and but I think that Bruce was great television I'm glad that we got him back I probably don't want to see him again but I wouldn't mind see him again but yeah I enjoy at the Bruce story art from last season to now yeah I think you know we had who is it Jay asking I think in the live well yeah Jay has said I'd love to see Bruce come back for a third time I do think Bruce will be the first third time returner because I feel like Jeff loves Bruce I really do think that like and what I'm trying to say is there will be an Allstar season and he's probably going to be the first person within the new era to get three times basically come back into the game and I've l Bruce I think Bruce gave the producers this season everything they could have wanted right he had this rivalry Cura he was sort of oblivious and not as self-aware as he should have been with his allies and maybe tried to like bulldoze his ideas across quite a bit where he didn't even realize like a Kelly for instance wasn't as close to him as he thought that was his number one in the game and you know Jake has sort of gone off and did something different on his own because he didn't really manage that relationship well so but the Bruce you know brought fun like you know if you if the whole dancing on the boat like disappearing as he's going the whole you know name dropping

31:01 Like I can only imagine if he comes back for All Stars what name drops are going to sort of happen at that stage because you know that was fun to see with Kane being Canadian and real fun like I felt like he gave us a lot and in a sort of era where a lot of people can be kind of the same in the way that they think and in the way that they move and we've really dipped into this like super fan sort of era of bringing players on and they're all game Bots I think it's refreshing when you get like the bruers the roxroy people that are like slightly a little bit different you need that to add just a little bit of that seasoning when it comes to like the personalities that are out there so I feel like from that standpoint Bruce will definitely come back but Kahuna you're a dad right we have to talk about this it broke my heart watching Bruce question himself and how he is in real life outside of the game and maybe his daughter looks at him similar to how Cali looked at him being overbearing like how did you feel as a dad watching that scene and thinking man like this guy's going through it out there because Survivor makes you question your own reality I mean I said any dad knows that they get those looks automatically from their daughters anyway like just my daughter's eight and she's already like I think she's probably straining the tops of her eyeballs just from the roll so she do like just exercises so much at anything that

32:21 Comes out of my mouth like BR like but it doesn't I don't I did me that Bruce would even question the love like you should be able to say confidently yes my daughter thinks I'm lame I know that but she still loves me because I'm dad but maybe not necessarily Kelly Etc Bruce is I think Bruce kind of overachieved considering how long he was on the outs for how long and he didn't even realize it at one point like at any point that people didn't like him Bruce was not a good player but he's a good character and he was fun from that regard but man I think mentioning Emily before with Bruce now I think what Emily needs is for Bruce to be her Hy man her pitch man he needs to go back to ponder Ro and say it was Emily like Emily was the one that got and if Bruce has that personality where he can separate that and he seems to be pretty good natured that's what Emily needs is Bruce to Em's one that got me like and spread that amongst the other Bell there and stuff that it was Emily's the one that really got me over the line and tricked me and I didn't use my idol because of her but I don't know if Bruce Uncle Brucey has

33:41 That in him he might make him you're asking him to do the was it was it Eric and Survivor Samara who stood up and did the whole speech for Natalie you're asking Bruce Cardona the greatest the greatest jewelry speech of all time yeah so that's a hard one is his something about him like it's because he's too big of a threat like he's just way too liked they had to get him out yeah that's true well let's talk about it a little bit Jake you're the person that is all about the strategy you look at this game very analytically like what's the right move how do you make it when do you make it this is why we come to you in the podcast where did Bruce go wrong here because ear in this episode you know even Emily talks about the fact that Bruce maybe doesn't want to use that Idol you know in a way where it benefits going after the Rebus it's the perfect time to do it would you say his inability to be adaptable and maybe flexible and work with other people's plans was his downfall or where did it go wrong for him yeah pretty much that and also I think just so such poor choices of who should I actually lie to about my idol and who should I F like lie to but then admit that it was a lie

35:02 He chose he lied to Jake and just never told him until later and then he lied to Couture and then immediately was like that was actually a lie how good was that and it's like he needs to be we know that he knows that he and coutura don't get along like we know that he said it and we know that like he seems to like Jake pretty well and you know that they should theoretically be working together but and you could and we saw Jake was so like that shook him up when he's like now Bruce is just telling pointless lies to me for no reason he's like he's like what am I doing in this game like you could tell that like [ __ ] him up and I get it I get it because that just made no sense and yeah he was going through this episode I mean even up until like the trouble Council where he was just like I feel dumb I feel slow you know I'm like I'm behind the pace which is another reason why I just don't think that someone that doesn't even have confidence in their own game at this point like how does like you know Jay has got him Jay I saw your rankings earlier let me see if I can pull it back up I'm sorry jay for calling this out but how can we see him as a winner based on the fact that he's just like unless he comes up and suddenly

36:22 His game changes drastically heading into the end I think even a Julie Cura Jake final Julie will still get the respect from her Reba members I feel like her being up front like I see a way for Julie to be the number one person in that trial basically in the game and coutura like I said it's just based on the fact that we have seen nothing of her game outside of the fact that she's targeted Bruce and Jake is like he needs his tribe mates to tell him it's okay mate like you're not DB or slow this is Survivor Jeff needs to put him at ease like I don't think it's a good look in front of the jury how do you feel about that Jake I think that it's it has pros and cons for sure I mean we saw that the jury's now fairly sympathetic towards him they were cheering or they were they were like getting upset when they kept seeing his name show up they didn't want him to go okay Jay that sounds yeah he's he feel he seems very confident about this Jake win at the end I just like he's like he knows things we don't know you'll never we'll never understand what's going through J Jay be honest with us mate were you out on location were you want of the cameraman out there like I feel like you've got some information but yeah I mean I'm listen I would be happy for Jake

37:42 If he did end up getting a win I just don't I don't see it I just don't see it at this stage but I mean I've been wrong many of times in Survivor in the past wouldn't be the first time so you know I've been wrong about Emily my favorite thing about Jake is that Bruce comes to and goes I gave Kelly my idol he's like oh okay totally like that's awesome I'm gonna tell everyone and then Emily goes that's not true he goes oh yeah of like just anything someone says to him immediately just value he takes it like that's not true okay it's not true I got I gave Kelly Idol okay you gave Kelly Idol and he's just like completely like in 100% no matter what you say to him completely contradicting the thing that he 100% voting on and he's like okay but I will say this weirdly I think that you know being at such a low Point like this can actually work to your advantage if he can somehow and I'm not saying this is going to happen this would be a long shot if he can somehow get back in the game and take some Power Make a Move happen that he can claim as his own and like actually have some say in the game that looks more impressive than

39:03 Than usual if you know what I'm saying like the way he can you know he like I said earlier he has a story he's like I was I was thrown through the ringer man he's like I was at a such a low point you guys saw me I was doubting myself but I never gave up I never you know just resigned to the fact that I wasn't going to win I kept I kept trying and actually took some power in the game made some moves and I got myself to the end that looks that could in some scenarios look more impressive than if you were never at that low point at all I listen I admire the commitment to Jake potentially winning this you're right there with Jay who also has him in a few drops I'm playing Devil's Advocate I don't think he's GNA win I'm just saying there's a path that's the honesty we needed there Jared brings up they did show Drew saying in a confessional that Jake's game was done then Jake raised his eyebrows and Drew said third times the charm on Jake only for Jake to survive again which I think is more ominous for Drew and his story than what it is for Jake to go on and win the show like I've said this from the start love Drew by the way we've not asked you this question yet coach Drew how upset are you that there is a Drew on the show right now that is absolutely killing it in confessionals Great narrator you know he's clearly one of the Bros you know he hangs with the boys and all that kind

40:23 Of stuff how do you feel about the fact that you know this is before you get to go on there and be the first Drew to play the game and I think there may have been no not the first Drew we had a Drew in sanan deler but he was an idiot he was even better he was even better than he was even better no I've called drew a side character in this and that in the best way possible just like yeah I don't Knowle yeah he's he's a fun side character to the eventual winner story because I don't think that Drew going to win the game it has been fun watching me because I think I would be a great narrator on the show but you know and I know I think Kahuna brought up at the beginning of the episode with the Montage which was the best part of the episode and probably one of the best things that's happened post season 40 but you just it feels genu just like with Christian it feels genuine it doesn't feel like they're putting on a character and people like coach that always felt like he was putting on a character it does not feel like Christian or Drew in this season are putting on charact this feels like this is who this person is and when he says Hey I've never been one of the Bros I'm like yeah I believe that's nothing wrong with that but I

41:43 Probably haven't and I believe that you think that locker room talk is talking about bacon and whatever else goes on in locker rooms as a coach yeah I absolutely understand so I've appreciated Drew I don't think he's meant for much longer in this game but no you know who's to say but listen he's been absolutely killing it for me on the point side of things like I think he's leading the points on the draft by quite a bit just because he's been all over the show so from that point of view he's done his job for me as my very last pick in the draft you know I always knew he was going to deliver CA I appreciate the extra level of confusion having 50% of the podcast names represented on the season as well we had chres but I don't think we'll ever see a Kahuna or my real name even worse will probably never be on the show either Nigel who's Nigel Survivor who's to blame for that who's to blame for that you for not applying mate got to put your application in you could change the narrative calling him out here on the live podcast but yeah listen I think it's been a lot of fun I don't think we're seeing the win there but you bring up a Val point they drew about this whole scene with the boys and having fun like for us all we really enjoyed it what does the say about the love letters that we saw this episode because I'm sorry I did not personally

43:04 Connect with the love letters that like I would normally connect and I don't know what it was like it just didn't have that connection and I don't know why like am I getting too like used to love letters and seeing the soy stories and things like that because we've seen quite a few of them now in Survivor they also do the flashback scene so that takes away a little bit from when we see it happen later on is it just Overkill I don't know if I was the only one Drew you had the whole thing about the best scene how did you feel about the love leaders like I mean it is a staple of Survivor it just I don't know it didn't hit homeful me as much I don't want to agree with you I probably end up Will by the time I finish this I probably will but there was something about it that's like okay yeah that like I remember sitting there I was having a drink and when Cur brings up the mom thing I'm like okay that came out of nowhere yeah but like it hit home for reasons and I'm like okay I get it and Emily okay oh Emily just moved in with her boyfriend she never thought she was gonna be married and you know we're getting all these story I think the one story that stood out to me was Julie story about being through the divorce and their kids and it's like okay I am appreciating this scene but I still had more fun with the fun stuff with the men which is not the case usually I care more about like

44:24 Those family visits I'm like my favorite scene of surv in Survivor history is the season 40 family visit that's like that's what it is and so I should appeal that the stuff with the women should have appealed to me more in this episode and it for some I don't know what it was I don't know what it was yeah so I guess I agree with yeah and I think that I just want to say it's not taken away from the stories like they're all genuine stories obviously we know that it's just I don't know if it was the way that it was edited the music they were playing when they were doing it where it felt like it was over done I don't know something felt a bit off and Chris brings up a v point that I didn't even think about Chris says I hope Cur asked for the letter from her mom that would have been so traumatizing if she legit got the letter out of nowhere from her mom after she's the one who wanted to cut contact like I feel like it's actually pretty disrespectful like for production to just give her this letter out of the blue but maybe production didn't know maybe they didn't do their due diligence and didn't realize the situation between Cura and her mom but that again I think even that story like it was such a quick one which came out of nowhere like coach Drew said and it's almost like it didn't we didn't even have time for it to sink in and we were on to the next one and it just I don't know something felt off on that I don't know if we need to go into it anymore of K do you have any thoughts about maybe I know you one of those people that appreciate production and how they put

45:44 The show together I thought like even you could see the colors of the paper it just felt like it was very produced it wasn't organic there was very specific colored paper with the handwriting on it and I just felt like it needed more Kenny Loggins to make that Montage feel a little bit better but the words were super encouraging like there was just so much like positivity in it I almost felt like some of their family like really like to use chat GPT and stuff like that because it just felt like it didn't feel necessarily like I was like the one so positive that it felt like the one that got me was coutur I think sister who said you don't need to find an idol you're already my idol and I was like okay like that was weird that kind of was weird to me I blocked that out of my memory I don't even remember that line at all I was like completely forgot about it but no I mean it was it was interesting let me let me put it that way what did all of you think about and I guess Jae will come to you what did you think about Emily's choice to get the ladies to go out there and do this clearly with Drew in tears at the end but still choosing not to go in that direction do you think she made the right choice do you think this will come back to B and the but

47:04 What's your thoughts on it because it can be a double-edged sword for a lot of people when they make these decisions yeah actually I don't know because we didn't really get to see anybody else's comments on it really but I mean you know that we were going to get an awesome boys Montage at the beach maybe she did that on purpose for us did you see that bit where Jeff like almost glitched like it looked like he like he was like and blanket and then he just like stopped for a second and Jak and like waiting and I think it's because he was going to say and blanket and let and kind of like caught himself I'm not saying let us home yet but he stole for a second I was like REO yeah the delivery on that was brilliant though not to tell them about the letters until the point where she had to make the decision which puts extra pressure on the player last minute to think again about who they were going to take with them on this reward because you know that missing out on food is one thing but missing out on love from home that puts a whole different Dynamic into the game and you don't want the player who's competing in the reward challenge to think about that while they're competing you want to give them as little as possible time to actually process it and I love the way that they delivered it but

48:25 Like you said a bit of a weird moment there with maybe catch himself 100% let's have a look at a few more of the comments here before we move on Chris says they need to bring back the loved ones being flown in these letters just don't fit I agree I think flying the loved ones in is a lot better also Jared saying okay Emily having a glass of wine in her confessional could that mean she will be a finalist celebrating at the end have we ever had someone drinking in a confessional yes Mike White right I'm pretty sure Mike why did that and yeah I can't remember if there's anybody else but Jay says good point Chris kiwi says did catch bits of it but the but hate the letters from home don't care move on it's different for everyone like some people I get it like some people don't like the letters at all and for me it's hit and miss like some Seasons if I feel like the mood's right I feel like Australian Survivor does it really well because it's something with the way that they produce the show with the music that the music can get you real into it as well but this one I don't know wasn't it for me Jay saying Rick Deon said on the fire podcast with Jeff that letters from home were more impactful than him seeing his wife or in real life wow okay well I guess because he doesn't have that instant satisfaction of seeing her you know he's just got to anticipate when he goes back and what she's going back what's happening back home so I can see that but I feel

49:45 For us as an audience it's more impactful to see loved ones actually being on the island connecting with them we also say have Ki SK saying don't think it'll matter since she picked all of the girls yep I think you know she could easily say I just wanted because it was an overnight trip I wanted to hang out with the girls rather than the boys in there and I think that the boys ended up making the most of it probably a lot of the times you know guys can get over things quicker like I don't know if that sounds good or not but it's a lot of the times it's true though guys is like okay we're having a fight right now tomorrow we're best mates again you know so I feel like they'll move on from it and maybe not hold it against them I'm not I know I'm generalizing there's probably who don't think like that but I feel like that is a thing with a lot of my male friends in general like we get over things very quickly Ki says yes Kahuna I noticed that too Jay says I don't know his opinion I guess s could I notice that so A few people did notice Jeff glitching okay annoyed we didn't get to see the blanket not blankets he just said blanket sleeping in blank so I wanted to see was it one maybe that was part of Emily's decision she didn't want to share blanket with any of the other boys out there yeah I now sort of refreshed my memory as well with Emily obviously having been with her relationship for a very long time thinking about getting married I don't think like Survivor is the place when you're deprive the food maybe have your first glass

51:05 Of alcohol in like 18 days after not having eaten to make that decision Emily I'd be very interested to see if she still goes ahead after the season because I feel like she kind of still left the door open for not going down that direction but everybody gets back home they all sort of catch up this is where the whole you know lie comes up with Jake and Drew had a bit of a showdown you know Drew what did you think of this is a different side of Jake that we saw come out a little bit here when he realized that Drew maybe isn't helping him as much in the game as he thought yeah it was it was a cute little F and I don't I don't mean cute to be you know whatever it might it wasn't Sandra Johnny fair playay but it was still like wow the these guys are actually going outed and some's head got burned in the fires is what you're saying well yeah well and I think that the Jake giving another look towards the cam like once again panning towards the camera which he's done now I believe three times two or three times at this point it was fun but it's also like yeah calling Drew out on his crap you know are you did you really did you really do this and I think it also going back to I think what all of us have said at some point during tonight I think

52:25 That's the trigger point in Jake's head of like not only do I not know what's going on which he said for the last couple of weeks but now you know I know I don't have Bruce I know I don't have drew I know I don't have anyone so I'm just gonna say screw it I'm gonna play ball I'm gonna show these people I can play ball tonight and I will vote out Bruce but I think that we could and I know that we've kind of heah about Jake WI and I think he does have a long way to go but the fact that he showed that he can play ball in this episode and willing to vote out the person that he's deemed to be closest with he can as if he can go forward because now people can't anyone left in the game cannot be pissed at him because he's doing what he needs to do to survive at this point he's gonna go however he wants and you guys can't get upset with me because y'all I'm not in your best interest y'all don't want to work with me so I'm going to do what I need and I think that this point right here is going to be the one where like it just kind of snapped in his head I don't need I don't need these people I need these people you know H like this but I don't need these people I don't mind parting with any of them they can all go and I am still when I said earlier that I don't see anyone not winning this season I include

53:45 I include Jake in that I do think that Jake could win this game put in the right situation and doing the things and I think this is the jumping off point for it he's going to stop start playing a wicked smart game you know from this point for from The Departed yeah I'm I'm waiting for it I'm ready I'm open to anything the season has been amazing but the more players who play towards the end game it's just going to ensure that we have that momentum going into the end game so great to see him sort of stand up for himself but I do agree a little bit with Jared here he was probably the one that was I think Drew was the one being anti agnostic at the end there also Chris saying Jake knows how to work the camera he really uses it to his Advantage obviously trying to get that screen time which you know you can't hate on that the producers do look out for that as well when they cast we do go into the immunity challenge and this immunity challenge was one of endurance I do like the endurance ones myself personally it's the ones that I feel like really shows who's got it in the tank to go to the end who wants the win who wants it more and they have to lie down this steep ramp while holding down on these sort of handh hold the more they go down the smaller it gets towards the end they actually can't use their feet which means that all of that pressure is on the shoulders and on their arms to try and keep themselves up there obviously if you're someone that is really good with bodyto weight

55:05 Ratio kind of exercises and things like that you would do really well so I thought Austin from the start I was like this guy's going to be very tough to beat because he looks like he's in shape he's got big arms and obviously he takes it out in the end but a big scene here from coutura sort of freaking out about going into the water Jeff changing the rules here Jake maybe halfway into it showing empathy or sympathy and saying you don't have to go into the water the water is not a part of the challenge you can climb off but he then does encourage her to finish the swim to the boat which is Iconic what did you think of this scene Jake do you feel like he is trying to recapture that moment that he had with sir Fields all those years ago because I feel like he always does that every season he looks for when can I get that next s Fields moment on the show I totally thought he was going for another Serene moment that's all that was going through my head when he was like we could all is a family I'll help you get through this you know and I was like this is totally like flashback you know very you know kind of inexplicable moment you know because coutura said herself you know I don't really have a fear of water you know she just had a panic attack and those are tough you know especially

56:26 Happening in a game of Survivor especially happening in the middle of a challenge in a game you know where you need imunity to survive pretty scary stuff I also think that when you're out in the ocean people forget it's not a swimming pool right like swimming in a swimming pool is nice there's no currents there's no fear of anything that could potentially you know some people think that oh there's going to be a shark in the water or something like that like there's a lot of different things that can come into play when you're out in the open water right is there is the ocean wants to kill you man everything in the ocean wants to kill you don't go in the water that's my thing this is this is coming from an Australian because like in Australia for those who don't know when you go to Northern Australia you even get crocodiles in the ocean so you get salt water crocodiles BLT jellyfish we get everything like everything wants to kill you in the water I definitely would never go swimming up in that northern part of Australia I'll stay away from the ocean over there but yeah very interesting sort of to see this play out and then Austin winning I'm sure Kahuna had you very happy at the end of it because you knew you were gonna get some points I mean yeah I was pretty I don't know like there's a part of me that sick it's like the sick little twisted part of me was hoping maybe Bruce wins

57:46 It like what does it do to we you know three in a row individual immunities like what does that say of Bruce's sort of is he the Challenger Beast Legacy that comes out of this season and stuff so I was interested in that but obviously I want Austin to win for my own personal sake but the thing that got me the challenges were really weird this episode The F the first one reward was just like run over these tables go under these tables then there's a net and then this one Jeff the biggest deal that he made out of the entire thing was how they got there in the boat like yeah oh we may have lost like he's like about that boat and they're like yeah it was fun I'm like what are you doing Jeff I'm going any am I back yeah now you're back you're back now but yeah Jeff making the big deal about the boat and then like you got to go swim back to the boat you don't want to miss out on that awesome boat do you I'm like what's he doing I was like je shut up about the boat man like and we didn't even get to see the boat we didn't even get to see them actually swim onto the boat and then leave on the boat like it felt like a bit anti-climatic like Jeff you promised us the boat and we didn't see it we didn't see it on the actual show that's why there was that's why there was no family it was just letters because they used all the budget on the speedboat and Kenny Lan soundtrack and like all

59:06 Us no very true cidi I haven't seen you in the live in a long time and it may be because you believe the season is boring but it's good to have you back on the live as well we obviously respectfully disagree because all of us have really been enjoying this season but we've always said this about Survivor right some people like seasons for different reasons and not all of us are going to love the same season at the same time we're not all going to agree on the winners that are the best winners or so forth so I respect your opinion mate you know obviously saying the Blind and Bru wasn't a big move nobody was going to vote for Bruce to win the game I don't know like I mean it's hard to know if he got to the end if he would have gotten the votes but I do feel like I agree with you halfway and here's where I do agree with you definitely not on the season being boring because I have enjoyed it but I do agree on the fact that probably taking Bruce out this early when no one is willing to work with him maybe it wasn't the best move but then again you could also say the same for a lot of the people that are in that original blue tribe right because Katura is kind of on an island of her own looking for people she's clearly not with them anymore she's trying to work with rebba Jake's on his own trying to work with rebba Emily is kind of like doesn't have any choices but to work with the two people that she's got in the alliance at the moment so I feel like Bruce did they really need for that extra vote I don't know I

1:00:26 Don't know I feel like all of them are kind of like free agents at this stage so you could just go after the person with the idol kind of makes sense because if he didn't play the idol next vote he'd probably play the idol which could mean your spot in the game so the more I think about it I wouldn't say it's like the best move that we've ever seen in Survivor but it definitely was the right move I feel like for this episode based on the fact that he had some ammunition in his pocket but city it's good to have you back on the live mate and I hope that you find some enjoyment out of this season I know you're going to be watching Australian survivors so I hope that Australian Survivor delivers with Titans versus Rebels and brings that sort of action that you're looking for in a season all right let's get into the pre-trial scramble I don't know how much there really is to talk about in this section here except for the fact that you know Bruce was obviously the one person that they wanted to Target there was d did D have the she wanted to go after Jake I believe early stages in this one as well like do he had a different plan or am I getting my two episodes a bit confused here no I think Bruce was the obvious vote from the start it was the pre previous episode yeah he was it was a pretty straightforward vote at the end of the day not many people were willing to go on bat for Bruce in this episode but Emily obviously taking this opportunity to try and see can they actually

1:01:46 Get Bruce to feel comfortable by bringing up another plan which will then in return make Bruce not play the idol and she ends up delivering really well on that they go to Tribal Council a bit of conversation there about the game and how hard it is to vote against each other Julie has her moment with the basically those that have been voted out talking about the fact that she's Mama J I feel like being that transparent and open from the start of something that could win some points towards the end of the game but when the votes come in ultimately Jake does get three votes Julie gets a vote Bruce gets four votes and Bruce leaves the game but he leaves a Class Act Drew at the end because he does say you know well played no overreaction there and anything like that I know that you said that Bruce isn't necessarily the first person you'd bring back but overall great story arc for him to come back this season be the first person to go out and then finally get to experiened Survivor in full right I think was that a question wait was that a question yeah so yeah I guess just overall like your thoughts on Bruce you know coming back I mean like I said I if I were to sit down at the end of the season and rank everyone based off how much I enjoyed them he'd be in the top half he was a fun character

1:03:06 I think I kind of excited with couto with a lot of the stuff like I said on their one-sided rivalry that they've had this season like I don't think that I would be able to play with Bruce long term but you know I'm I'm glad that GL they brought him back I think that he exceeded I'm going to assume most people's expectations I think that you know he him getting voted out with an idol right now like yeah it happened but I haven't seen that much like man I can't believe this fool just got voted out with an idol it seems like people are more on the they got him good like it wasn't like oh yeah he should have done it and he didn't do it if he does show up in another season I'm not going to be upset about it like there could there are worst people but I'm glad that he wasn't the first boot because like I said I was convinced that if they had one rury on a season of all newbies there was no way that person was going to make it any type of far and he made it to final Aid so good on him and yeah I hope about it at this point that 12 hours in the game that he remembers Maybe two hours of really

1:04:26 Really came into play this season with Emily putting a Target on his back very early on for that but yeah he had a great second season I'm glad he got to experience it in full even if he doesn't come back to play again just the way he went out in that first season I really felt for him so I'm glad he got that opportunity admin haven't seen you in a while in the live as well welcome back saying that the season is not really boring but most of the big characters are gone they're all sitting on the jury I think if you are a big Kelly fan if you're a big Caleb fan I can see that I do think we've got some great characters still in the game like Emily probably is the biggest character of the season I would argue I wouldn't have said that in the be well I probably would have still said it but for the wrong reasons in the beginning of the season and then I would still argue that Drew is a pretty big character Jake's a pretty big character sorry basil yeah but we haven't seen much of Basil but I feel like I thought was good with the boys well I feel like when he hangs out with the boys that is basil but he just hasn't sort of verbalized that basil is the one that's taken over you know hide when it comes he's not letting he's not letting the basil in him really come out yeah he just needs to embrace the basil you know Go full Macho Man out there but let's have a look

1:05:46 At some of the points and how we're doing in the draft it is that time of the podcast we came into the this episode with three players a piece between myself and Kahuna and then Jake had two players left in the game I do lose my man Bruce here in the spot that now means that Kahuna has got the advantage going into the next episode and I do think Guna you're in a very strong spot you've got Austin and D who I both think are still real potentials to win this game at this stage Cura again we've spoken about it I don't think that the edit has shown us much of her game and you can say that there have been Seasons that has happened think about Erica for instance obviously one of the most recent winners that didn't always we didn't always get to see her game but I do feel like we saw a lot more than what we've seen with coutura and this is a longer season you get 90minut episodes so like surely they're going to put a little bit of effort into whoever's going to win the show and I feel like a lot of her content has been Bruce focused at this stage so I'm a little bit lower on that but K you're in a good spot at this point that's her that's going to be her final tribal speech he's like one goal I set myself for was Bruce I achieved that goal I did what I wanted to do you should give me the I don't know if any of you guys watch

1:07:06 Anime at all but there's this anime called one punch man where he just defeats all of his enemies with one punch and that could be coutura she could be one punch woman this season and take out the title by just taking out Bruce looking at my draft going into the final round I've got jul and Drew left I do feel like there is a world that either one of them can win based on the edit I think it's less likely for Drew as I said like I mean I would love for Drew to win because it would be such a great story I pick the guy in my last round in the draft and then he goes to win the season it really would show that we knew nothing coming into this season of who was going to place where but I'm a little bit less sort of like I'm very cautious when it comes to Drew I want to get my hopes up Julie I think does have an outside chance but I also think she probably could get sniped if she turns against Reba so I feel like I'm in a spot where I've got to Hope in the next episode or two I can continue to Bild points so I stay in the game until the end to have a chance against Kahuna and Jake you know you still could very well have the winner in your team but you're very far behind you about half the points that we have in the game so even if you do have the winner probably won't make a difference for example Drew wouldn't know this I had yamyam on my team last season he won but I still didn't win the draft because of how our points worked Kahuna won that draft so Jake you're in kind of

1:08:27 A position where something similar could happen to you yeah I could get I could get third place and have the winner on my team yeah I mean I'm kind of just I had too many people leave too soon yeah it just it makes you know the stakes are high when there's three teams that needs to be selected and there are so many different potential points to be gathered throughout the season so let's talk about the points and where we sitting for those that are not aware for Drew's sake he wasn't on the podcast previously I'll quickly go over what the points are and how they work for confessionals you get one point per confessional for Team Challenge wins you get five points for individual immunities you get eight points making the merge gave you Five Points successful Advantage plays which we've only had one so far with Caleb playing the shot in the dark successfully that's 10 points finding the advantage is Five Points votes against you is minor 0 the runner up gets 25 points the winner gets 50 points and then we do have bonus categories at the end of the season which all will give you an additional 25 points for most confessionals most individual immunity wins most advantages found least votes casted against you and most advantages played correctly so a lot of points still up for grab as we go into the end the one thing I have been enjoying this season is that

1:09:47 Kuna kind of got ahead of us very early on in the season last time and towards the end it didn't really matter as much cuz I feel like he had such a big buffer by the point that we get to the end that he did win it but it's going to continue to be close here Kahuna as we go into the final rounds which makes this a very exciting draft this season in last place we've spoken about it quite a bit is team Jake at 184 points top Point getter for Jake at this stage is Emily at 64 and Jake is in second place at 52 then going into second place and remaining in second place is Kahuna at 34 two points top Point getter is Austin at 84 points and one point splits D and kah Cura at 65 and 64 points within that team moving into the top team here of the draft so far but only two people left going into these final rounds is team Chris at 361 points so it is still a 19point difference between the two of us top player and top player of the Season overall is Drew at 85 and then secondly we've got Julie at 63 so one point splits Austin and Drew for the top spot over all for points this season but obviously with my main challenge Beast Bruce out

1:11:07 Who've been collecting me those individual immunity points going into the final rounds I'm goingon to have to hope that Julie finally gets the wins now that Bruce is out of the way because she's had a couple where she got very close but yeah it's been overall I think a very good drive ker because it's going to be exciting to see the bonus categories might actually be the difference between who wins this season yeah coming down to the final vets like that's going to be interesting I'm hoping I've got to come from behind win here yeah well it wouldn't be much come from behind because I feel like we've 20 points or 30 points have been the split between us for most of the season so it's been very competitive Jake obviously you're out of this one but you know I would say strategize for next season strategize on how you would attack next season St you know what Jake did Drew that really put him back he chose people that he would hang out with in real life like he chose all of the people who are like how we vote for president of the United States we vote for who we would rather have a beer with so that makes sense I get it my problem was that I picked somebody that had a nicotine addiction so they quit and I then picked somebody who had no physical ability whatsoever Brandon

1:12:27 And then yeah all down there and then I have J Maya who just was on the bottom just the whole time you know Brando was unlucky I feel like Brando got swap screwed yeah he could have he could have been a bit or bigger player it's just chips didn't fall in his way this season but the Han the Hannah Fiasco set the mood and I knew it was going to be bad from there AR NES welcome to the live that's fine watch it later on put some comments on it I will come back and definitely put some comments in reply as well Jared coming in with the big $4.99 appreciate it so much saying Hannah's intro sequence of her slamming into the mud head first as a top tier moment I think they were trying to make her look they kept that in there because of yeah J thank you so much for that we put that straight back into the podcast as we continue to grow the channel here we really appreciate it but that is it here for this episode I hope everybody enjoyed the last hour and 12 minutes as we spoke about the latest episode of Survivor I had a lot of fun it was great to have drew with us in the group here as well today to talk about Survivor if you like this content please consider subscribing hitting the notification Bell so you know when we go live next hitting a like on it and even if you were in the live just put a comment on it below maybe afterwards just so to had

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