Survivor 46 Review

0:03 And we are live for this full day of watching Survivor 46 this is the final day of Survivor 46 and 46 it's been a long journey it's been a fun Journey and yeah so the last time I last time I did this I started to really get tired around because last time I did this was for 42 two years ago and I think I started to get tired right around 100 PM that day which sucked because I had a long way to go obviously with today being six we all know the first few episodes are very much the bonu show and I not looking forward to it I'm going to sober through this entire thing I don't really plan on leaving my house for anything today I really can't so this is this is going to be Stone Cold Sober as I watch this every now and then like I've mentioned we're going to have people that have joined me throughout this entire process and probably

1:23 Just come and shoot the not only about 46 but just about Survivor in general and by B on the screen let's see what else oh periodically leaving time stamps for where I'm at just in case anyone wants to watch as I go along I be leaving my finished rankings for this time around throughout the day then I have to I might have to step out to like you know use the bathroom or something there will be a lot of dead air in between I'll try to ramble as much as possible in the process because I mean people are probably working as of now so it's not like I'm going to be having everyone join in at 8:30 in the morning it probably be closer to whenever the merge happens if we're being honest probably around four or five M which is fine like I've been watching these alone for the last 45 days so much of a difference the Facebook mom's favorite person of the Season Charlie is now on the

2:43 Screen thought Charlie kind of falls into the same category as like Xander for me where I feel like I would like Charlie if his fans weren't so damn annoying some of his fans some of his fans are fine the crazies and you guys know who the crazies are the crazies are the one that went after Maria after the finale but J's fine he's fine he seems really sweet and I really enjoyed what he said at final tribal about you know every winner deserves to win period and he said that you know in the moment like right after losing you know he could have been someone else that mentioned at the re Union oh yeah let me let me buy the win from you so yeah 46 is just starting now I don't think they've done the credits yet but appreciate where oh yeah appreciated yeah it the especially the people that I've been here for the majority of this entire process I really do appreciate that it is nice to this has basically been my summer family

4:03 This summer so it's been great to have all of you sto in here and there and I see a lot of you throughout this day nice action shot of Jeff as the boats roll in I guess I can start with my first time stamp of the day I guess it really wouldn't matter unless so unless someone asked for a time stamp I'm probably not going to do it then because by the time I post it and by the time people hop in it's going to have moved on but I will say okay I can say that okay on episode one so if anyone hops in that way I think that right now that is the plan and thank you so much I really do appreciate that I think that is I think that possibly is the plan I don't know right now I'm just enjoying the show what is that but yeah I'm hoping to become more regular on the network I've really enjoyed my time here so we will see okay this is just for everyone that hops in episode one we started this at

5:26 835 episode one at 8 35 a.m. eastern standard time for anyone hopping in okay so oh who's that okay I was I was just ready to say this doesn't run into the 43 issue of me not remembering certain people's faces there oh there's Liz there's Liz I think I recognize everyone of I hope that I recog the season just ended yeah well it's so funny because I started this I think I started on May 29th May 24th May something this entire process started May something and if you give me a second I can look up the exact day that I started all right so I started May 26th the Survivor 4 6 finale aired shoot I thought I had a bookmark oh there I did there I did May 22nd so basically I had four days of nons Survivor

6:46 Before I just spent the last month and a half watching nothing but so this one should be fresh in my mind but also you know I've got better seasons and worse Seasons that I have watched since then so we will see how I feel about it today I think when I initially watched the season it was New Era wise was my second to last but like it was still in the 20s I think low 20s as far as my personal r at that point like I have ranted about the last five nights I feel like the new era gets a lot of hate for reasons I feel like a lot of the reasons are very what's the word a lot of the a lot of the reasoning doesn't make sense outside of the all the advantages and all the twists which as I mentioned again last night that Trend started way before 41 we can go back to 31 or even 30 as far as advantages and twist you know becoming more and more of a thing so even then I feel like people unnecessarily blame the 40s for it when it started earlier I really love Fiji Water

8:06 Like looking at the Fiji Water on the show I don't even think I've had actual Fiji Water look at Liz man if anyone doesn't know like I was in love with this woman during the Airing of this I know that you know most people were probably on the Venus or Kenzie trains but what can I say Jeff still looking I understand you know Botox and all that stuff exists but Jeff at this point I believe is like 61 62 years old and he's still looking good especially as especially as Cals the man works out so here are the at the first reward challenge we've got the internet's favorite meme galinsky running for I forgot the tribe names but this tribe the non red tribe there's Hunter who I know people said that he kind of falls into the Survivor nerd category I think last night they mentioned that I enjoyed Hunter you know and they also said he kind of falls into the challenge piece category

9:27 Which yeah even then I prefer him over Jonathan I prefer him over a lot of you know said challenge beasts that we have had throughout the history and especially watching it like this a lot of the people that fall into some of these archetypes they don't I won't say that they blend together but after a while you get tired of the same archetypes over and over again even though I understand that's how it has to how it has to go you know they have to cast people that you know us folks can kind of connect with I get it as far as also anyone that is listening is in the chat let me know if you can actually hear the TV because I don't know I think I have it down enough that you can't hear anything but I have it at the same number that I have it whenever I'm doing the Recaps I have it at like a four or a five so I hope that yall can't hear it because CU that would really suck so I'm going to be here for like I said like 13 14 hours I forgot yesterday that the 90minut episode started so I was very much behind for most of the day and it kind of dragged at least today I prepped

10:47 As far as you know knowing that it's going to be 13 hours or not 13 as it's going to be 90 minutes and I kind of figured out that it's actually going to be closer to 14 because there are a couple of twoh hour episodes including this one I'm pretty sure hour 26 but without I mean so would have been two hours without with commercials you guys know what I'm saying yeah man this is it's it's fun to finally be here you know like I said I finished watching Survivor 46 4 days before I started this entire process so you know the fact that I'm here again basically 50 days later is it's do I feel accomplished no because you know but I do I do feel a sense of you know I can't believe I did this again and as I've mentioned a few times I'm going to do it one more time in two years after 50 years I'm going to do 50 and 50 and then I will never binge watch this show again I will watch Seasons here and there but

12:07 I will probably never watch things like of the idols or Thailand or Worlds Apart ever again after two years from now just I can't do it I it's it was already hard enough watching it this time around man I can't wait to cut my hair yeah I let my hair whatever's left of it grow out during this process so I'm gonna probably cut it tomorrow because after I've done this today I'm going right to sleep and I'm going to sleep all day tomorrow and then when I wake up I'll probably cut my hair in shave and then I have a bus to catch because I'm traveling for the for something I can't say what but I'm going somewhere for a few days and so I need to be well rested before I go out there no I'm not going to go play Survivor I don't even think that they're I feel like they've already finished filming the next two seasons let's see oh I haven't done for all my Baseball fans out there I'm going to do my Immaculate right quick my Immaculate grid where is it if you

13:27 Don't know what Immaculate grid is I'll see if I can show the screen pre no I want to do play now this is can you see that this is immaculate grid you basically have to find a player that fits in every one of those categories I do it every day because I'm a nerd as you can see by watching 46 days of Survivor a Seattle Mariner who played catch I think Kenji jojima was a catcher in Seattle at one point right I'm pretty sure but pitch for Seattle I'm going to go with Jamie Moyer of course pitch for the Atlanta Braves we're going to go Cole hamills pitch there for a hot second Pitch for Washington we'll go Levon Hernandez Leon leevon Hernandez and then we won't touch it for a while because I really got to think all right so first reward challenge is done everyone's all muddy but no one got a concussion so we're all good there's Kevin Maria

14:47 Maria's jacked yeah I would hope yeah if you were about to go play Survivor that you would not have just spent 50 days sitting on a couch watching but actually doing something with endurance yeah that's yeah I have not worked out I mean I've walked I've gone on walks during this especially for the earlier Seasons where like it watching the early Seasons I don't for some for some reason they just kind of flow very well and they just finish and I felt like I had a lot of I had a lot more free time like the first sevenish Seasons and I think after all stars is when I probably started to stay in the house a lot more oh jiny's talking I feel like okay and also getting the Str you last 26 days yeah that's the other thing is like I would have to I would either I don't so I don't even know what I would do in that situation as far as do I just binge eat forever and then just starve or do I start training myself to not eat much so that when I'm out there and they don't give us food that I'm kind of just used to it I don't know I actually never

16:07 Asked anyone who has played on these later Seasons what they did foodwise to prep for going out knowing that they were not going to have food pretty much for the pre-merge all right so we get our F we get our galinsky moment coming soon they just flipped The Hourglass so him and CER it's so funny that jalinski has become this big internet meme I know that like the fun cool thing is to hate on the guy I think you know in the same vein as Zane Knight or others I feel like the fact that we are still talking about jalinski the fact that they were still talking about jalinski during the finale of this shows that he was he was a character you know say what you want about the player but the Char and that's the same thing with most of the people that play the show you know the characters the prime example that I have brought up so many times during this is James from China I know people like to Hype him up it's like this big challenge beast and oh one of one of the greatest players and it's like no he's really not and honestly challenge Beast wise he's really not he I'm

17:28 Barely sure he's never won an individual immunity I'm almost certain he's never won an individual immunity and pre merge I mean in China he it's not like his tribe either tribe that he's on is winning all of the challenges yes there's the one that PG and Jamie throw but like he's not out here just winning all the challenges in Micronesia he's not out there winning all the challenges on the on the pre merge or W did his swap tribe wi every challenge I think his swap tribe made W every challenge and then here's Dy once again he his the heroes tribe actually gets damn near decimated pre-merge and yes I know he messed up his ACL and all that but yeah all of all of that is to say I feel like characters and players people kind of put them in the same in the same breath when you should say no they're good to great players they're good to Great characters why be camera off usually I can see both of my hands when I do this I also do this a lot and I haven't realized until I started until I did this time around and I'll go back and like watch

18:48 Just clips and I realize I talk with my hands a lot do you think galinsky will be back for 50 since Je no I don't think honestly the only way I could see jolinsky coming back is if they did a pre-merge versus post-merge type season that like Survivor South Africa did I don't think they're ever going to do a first boots season because I don't think they have enough first boots that people really want to see but if they ever yeah if they were ever do a pre-merge versus post merge type thing I even then I feel like jonky probably wouldn't come back but I feel like because he has become so much of a meme he will probably be in the casting process I feel like he would get a call but I don't know I feel there are so many pre mergers that people like really want to see back that even if they left it up to a fan vote the trolls probably vote for jiny but I feel like most people would vote for you know real people whatever that means all right now the green CH has flipped their hourglass so they're doing they're doing Savvy oh yeah here we go

20:09 I'm looking at these two right now and realizing that the Taylor Swift Metallica thing will be happening soonish I think what like episode three or four maybe earlier oh goodness so as far as what I'm going to do for food today probably nothing I probably won't eat until I'm done until I'm done with this I've got water so I probably just sit here and drink water all day if I ever get the urge to really do something what I'll do is I'll wait until someone else is in here or a couple people in here I'll let them shoot the and then I will go to the convenience store right across the street and probably grab like a mus or energy drink or something cuz I'm exhausted the last like week everyone that has come on before we go live has made mention to the fact that you look tired or you sound tired and it's actually both Tim's a college coach I'm a college coach Tim's a black guy with glasses and a beard I'm a black guy with glasses and a beard am I Tim I don't remember Tim this is

21:29 That's bad I don't remember Tim I actually remember most of these Prem mergers which I'm surprised about and once again I understand that 46 has is very polarizing in the same way that like I won't say like gabone because gabone is a cartoon this season's not a what is another polarizing season that I can put in that c that I can put 46 in the category of maybe like Pala I feel like people have started to turn on palao even though like at one point it was like people always put it up on this pedestal I think it's the exact opposite with this where I feel like people have kind of unnecessarily on it and then there are others that put it on the pedestal but we definitely in the minority I don't put it on a pedestal but I think it's better than people make it out to be I think that the game play for the most part is fun I think that what really hampers down the season is the galinsky thing or not the galinsky thing the bonu thing the bonu thing and it's insane because

22:49 We haven't got much bonu content yet I think he has like two confessionals up to this point but at a certain point it becomes hes as far as how much this man is on the TV in the first four episodes and it doesn't help that the round that he's supposed to go there is a metac right there's a medac and all of a sudden you know we get or we I keep saying jinsky we get Banu for another episode oh Liz is talking oh my goodness I'm in love with you I love her classes I love everything and I know Liz is another one where I feel like people unnecessarily I understand that he has her quirks I get it I don't know I just there is something about her I've been having a lot of Survivor dreams lately not that came off weird that's not what I meant but I've had I've obviously because all I do is watch and then I'll go to bed and it'll just be and then I'll wake up in the middle of the night and be tired and wondering why I'm dreaming about Survivor so much and it's like well you fool you've been doing this for 45 days why what else would you dream about

24:09 And especially on nights when I am drinking while washing it then it's game over I don't think I well I went to Chili's for a little bit yesterday and had a couple drinks there but thank you I appreciate that and yeah we'll talk later all right so we are we're starting fire over at Liz's Camp move some of the stuff out of the way this angle I'm so I have to flip my desk around today because usually what I'll do is I'll have the Union playing in the background on my TV while I record and every now and then I'll like turn around like this just to see where the reunions at now obviously today since I have to be watching while I'm doing this I can't just sit like this all day because based off the camera angle you would be able to see it and we get flagged so instead I have to flip my desk around today so you have to look at my wall which with nothing on it so that I could watch everything and galinsky

25:30 Just pulled the we doing Tim jalinski just pulled this Jim hord I think this is where he breaks The Hourglass but not in the 4142 way oh goodness this is going to be a long one but like a fun episode one character he doesn't out say is welcome I don't know how many jalinski isms I needed especially because now the whole several thing has been played out so much like the joke and anytime I hear it now it's I don't I'm done with it's very similar to another phrase that has gotten really popular in the last couple of weeks that's not Survivor related I'm sure you guys know what I'm talking about I'm done with it and it doesn't seem like it's going away anytime soon several doesn't see like it's going away anytime soon so I guess we're stuck with and it doesn't help that next season is 47 and we all know that everyone keep and Jen just threw The Hourglass now there's glass over the beach what it's gum back

26:51 Because it's 47 4 seal and it's just like oh yes that's so creative I'm hoping that 47 is good enough to just not be referenced as that I hope that 47 turns into a fairly decent to good season so that we can refer to it as its proper name and not a meme from a guy that got voted out first this season beforehand but we'll see I cannot believe I don't remember Tim which is crazy because I'm not going to say He's My Doppelganger but a coach a black coach black college coach with glasses and a beard like basically looking at myself how far does Tim go I remember I don't remember her either that's so crazy to me and I guess because we know what's going to happen this premerge we know that it is the Banu show that I probably unless of people unless people made the merge probably not going to remember most of them which sucks because you know these they seem interesting right now who's to say once again I'm asking this again for

28:11 Anyone in the chat can you hear my television because I hope the answer is no I'm gonna try I'm GNA try to avoid his dead air today I'm going to so in college I worked at the radio station and one day there was this event going on campus why did I say like on campus and I decided it' be a good idea to do a live show for eight hours during the event and that was tiring in itself because I had you know the dean come do an interview I had people coming in and out and doing interview the place was also just loud and the other bad thing about it was because we recorded it from the event and the station was up a hill at like five till the hour I had to Sprint back to the station me and my me and my co-host would take alternating hours we Sprint back to the station so that we could play our you know our Public Service Announcement and then run back down the hill to keep one recording thankfully I don't have to do that today

29:31 I don't have to do anything today Mariah what is her name I think his name her name is Mariah Mo the go yeah move some of the stuff out of the way so I can actually read the subtitles oh my goodness I am so tired I cannot wait to finally rest after this is done I really wish I could go out for drinks after this is done but I don't think that I'm going to be in the mood I think that I'm just going to want to sleep forever probably just means like 10 hours compared to the six or seven that I have been getting which is R that's when people ask me like how do you have enough time it's like well I'm a college coach and there is no College in the summer there's no practice in the summer I go to bed around 1:00 a.m.

30:34 Like I so usually I'll start watching the next season the night like the night beforehand so that I you know have time the next day so I usually go to bed around 1 I wake up around 8ish I'll sit on my phone for an hour and then I'll start watching at 9: on days that I'm behind I can't sit my phone when I wake up and I'll just instead get right into it some days the San Juan deler day because I knew I had plans that day what I did was the Kagan and Kagan and blood versus water like I just basically watched straight through without much of a sleeping I didn't sleep much there and then I pulled an all nighter between I pull an all Downer after I finished the Kagan podcast I immediately start watching sanan deler San Juan deler pulled an all nighter I could record the pot at 11:00 a.m.

31:36 That Sunday because I had plans that Sunday afternoon into Sunday night which was a lot that was probably the I me thank goodness that someone else there is a fun season to watch but that was Jin made a deal with Kenzie don't remember that was by far the hardest day just because it kind of threw my sleep schedule off whack but it didn't throw off my actual viewing schedule thankfully let's see so yeah I haven't so also when I did this beforehand when I when I did 42 I lost almost 10 pounds I haven't weighed myself today to see where I'm at I would probably say I've lost like six this time around which is probably not the best but it's 6 pounds in 45 days so it's not crazy either and I will be getting back into shape once this is all done so I have that to look forward to my goodness I really think I might go get a monster at some point specifically while the Banu episodes are on but like I said I'll

32:56 Probably wait until some of the folks that have joined me throughout this whole process start hopping in here so that I don't like just leave a blank screen for probably like 15 minutes for me to get up walk to the store and come so I'll wait for that to happen and then I'll go grab a launcher I'll down that and I should be good the rest of the day I don't remember these tribe names at all that's the thing is there or after season 8 I start forgetting certain tribe names like they're obviously you know you get to like Panama and you get to things like Fiji where you could like the tribe names are known more because of the characters that are on it [Music] but yeah I the fact that people can still name the 40s or 30s merge tribes is insane because there is no like moment where we learn them it's people just this is not a knock on like obsessive fans that learn everything about it because like you know I'm the same way when it comes to lost I could tell you everything about lost

34:17 And I can tell you most things about Survivor but one thing is I'm never going to be able to tell you all the tribe names and I'm never going to be able to tell you all the merge trap names or the colors I don't have any legitimate Survivor Buffs I have my Survivor New York buff from when I played I have my two Survivor New York production Buffs and that's it if I were to ever get a buff a an actual Survivor buff it would probably be maybe the villains tribe or the yinyang tribe maybe a maramu tribe from maresis or maresa as kbo says maybe a drake buff from Pearl Island Drake Hunter T that's a an interesting little Dynamic what do we think about Tevin I liked Tevin he was fine I liked most of the people that were on this season like I know I'm probably going to say this a thousand times today

35:37 But I don't understand the hatred with this season and everyone always says bonu first it's like yeah Bono doesn't stay long enough for me to hate the season the Andy Griffith the LI that's cute where was it going oh bonu doesn't make the merge so we don't have to worry about that and the characters that we do get at the merge are a lot of fun you know and we have some yes people are getting voted out with Idols in their pocket I don't necessarily mean that makes it a bad season I just think it means okay yeah these people are playing and once again if you run your mouth about things and I don't even remember if that was the case with this season as far as people running their Ms and that's why they were getting voted out with Idols I like I said I had four days in between the finale of 40 six and watching season 1 again so a lot of the stuff isn't fresh and in my head so I can't remember the reasoning behind everyone getting voted out with Idols but I am curious to see this time around also it hasn't turned into the bonu show yet I should have turned that into a drinking game every time bonu gets a confessional take a drink but I think I would only have like two drinks right now I know

36:57 What coming I know it's coming but right now I feel like the edit is very spread out among most people Charlie y'all's favorite person is he's getting his cute little content galinsky of course is getting his content but that's because he's leaving where are we at right now we're about 30 oh we're about 37 minutes in which makes sense because we're 37 minutes into the live stream okay so how do I want to do my breakdown of okay well this is what we'll do what we'll do is every periodically throughout the day so if you follow me on Instagram every day that I during this I mean I always do song of the day but during this my song of the day always related in some way to the season that I was going to watch or that was watching that day so I'm kind of just looking through that but what I was what I was going to say is oh my goodness my apologies throughout the day I'm going

38:18 To leave my rankings through 45 season at the end of this I'll at the end of all of this I'll say where 46 is so how do I want to phrase this okay so [Music] periodically I to day I will be leaving my final rankings final personal rankings of all the SE Seasons a all the seasons starting with number 45 send number 45 Thailand because of course it is Thailand this so I gave it I gave it a 1.5 out of five when I watched it this time around Thailand is

39:38 One of the seasons where I really tried to give it a fair shot this time around because the so honestly the only time I've ever sort of enjoyed Thailand is when I was a child when it first aired and even then I just remember being bored with that a lot of the stuff that happened in the season just kind of went over my head but every time I have re-watch Thailand as an adult it just it just goes like this and as you'll see number 44 which I'll post at some point you know at least in that season there are things that you can enjoy about it in Thailand I the fact that my favorite person on Thailand is Jan and that's not a knock on Jan it's just that my favorite person on Thailand is Jan because she has her pet cemetery baby bat the fact that she's just this cookie old lady the fact that she's an Alie I just I don't know like Jan had to be Jan had to be the person that I related to I guess during the season outside

40:58 Of Jan you know I want to root for Helen but Helen you know did vote out gandia so clay sucks but I will say that watching clay this time around I did laugh a few at a few of his confessionals problematic or not they were funny Brian's a sociopath but that's fine because among all these people he's you know fine let him be a sociopath at least he's not other folks xen really got caught you know in a bad situation it's one of the first times they added a Twist that just didn't work and we're going to see that a lot or obviously I've seen that a lot over the last however many days but yeah Sheen really got screwed there I think and I brought this up before when people say that certain seasons are rigged and everything and how 35 is rigged because Ben's in the military and this that and the other and I always go back to pend the cop in Thailand was a cop in New York City after 911

42:18 If you're not going to rig it for him you're not rigging it for anyone so I will never buy into Survivor being rigged for certain players because if it was the case Ken the cop would have won s would have won Azie would have won coach would have won Charlie would have won just you can go down the list of people that you can tell Survivor is probably a fan of that if they really wanted to rig it for some for someone they would have and they didn't so I'm glad that this Ben mess is starting to slowly starting to go away but yeah I don't buy it then I'll never buy it oh boy oh Liz look at you gorgeous what do we got going on soon nothing I don't really have anything going on like I said I had something going on this weekend but like name this weekend I something going on starting tomorrow night but outside of that I'm going to Lake Placid at the end of the summer and or at the end of July and then school starts back up at the end of August

43:39 So I'm most of my summer is done after this so that's a weird thought to have not that I have a personal life to speak on so I guess I don't have to wait today to post the link because we're streaming all day so that's what I'll do there we are you're live streaming share copy link let's see how do I want to phrase this live streaming oh I'll do it like this so that I can post on all the stuffs Instagram how do I do this I don't I am not techsavvy at all so this is going to be an adventure okay let's see if I can oh there's Banu here we go here we go with the bonu stuff how do I do this more

44:59 No let's see live streaming live streaming 46 all day on take YouTube channel live streaming talking and watching 46 all day on channel check it [Music] out let's see and today thank goodness all right done there we go share to your story and then we will also we do 46 there we go a man it I think it annoys my friends that I do love Liz as much as I claim to and they also are not surprised that I love Liz as

46:19 Much as I claim to whenever I tell people that they always say it's not surprising even though they all despise her for some reason so I'm going to start this post with saying lizz's name Maria SE I'm gonna make a several joke because I have to let's see what else happens this season oh Q du Q and a very annoying pre merged character and a very annoying fan base attacking and stalking new [Music] plers all weird anyway starting oh anyway live streaming talking a b 46 all day as we end 46

47:39 Seasons and 46 days tune in the link is there paste okay share all right goes on Instagram that goes on Facebook is it there on Facebook it is it's on Facebook it's on Instagram and I can go to Twitter and do it too nullified take I don't remember Jalen's voice being that deep nullified okay so it's TNT take there we go oh look there I am live streaming all day watching Survivor 46 as we end 46 seasons and 46 days do people still use hashtags we're going to do it anyway Survivor

49:00 46 oh my gosh 46 hash lizwi Cox because she's amazing I'll probably only s for a little maybe a lot question anyway post all right we're back think we have someone that I join us soon I'll pop a little no one has set times you can hop on whenever you have time yeah there are no set times there are no set times where people are going to be jumping in today I don't think I can have more than four people in here though is that the case I don't know and can I have more than four people in here guess we'll find out but if I if I do have to do that then I'll just have to bounce people periodically

50:21 They're 50 minutes into the first episode and does that mean I'm have way yeah about halfway through the first episode there are 13 episodes this season and I didn't look up time stamps for all of them I know that most of them are 90 minutes but because I have Paramount plus well commercials it's roughly about an hour and four minutes and if the two-hour episodes or hour 26 I think I should be done with this by 9:30 p.m. Eastern Standard time tonight I hope I'm done by that point because once again I'm so tired and I really just want to sleep as you can hear in my voice my voice isn't always that the Deep my voice is I'm not going to say it's high but it's not this so that sucks I would like to have my voice back what is jinsky is lying about [Music] something yeah ji sucks but in like a fun way in like a fun

51:42 Way he doesn't actually suck he felt obligated to tell the truth Banu it's ironic that you are that you are so butt hurt about what jinsky did wish I had more have more space do I want to unplug this now yeah I'll unplug it right now let's see do I want to update okay well you know what we'll do number we'll do number 44 number 44 we've got I'm fairly certain right it's this yes we've got we've got island of the idols like I said last week I think is when we covered island of the idols the premerge is a lot of fun I think that they had a lot of I mean casting wise I think 17 of the 20 or maybe

53:02 Even 16 of the 20 are a lot of fun it's just once the merge hits the air just gets sucked out of the entire thing and I just emotionally check out of everything that happens I cannot tell you a single I just watched this last week I can't tell you a single thing that happens post the merge episode game-wise like at all you know the final tribals entertaining but you tell me who wins certain CH or ask me who wins certain challenges or who is the challenge beast on the season or anything like that I couldn't tell you because I just block I can do that I can do that with Thailand I can't do that without the idols because I just emotionally just get checked out afterwards but I do think that the pre merge and the passing for the most part were a lot of fun I think that the final tribal is very funny because Dean is so he's so he's going to die on this I had all the advantages Hill and try to discredit Tommy but that way

54:22 I think that Tommy yeah Tommy is a winner that exists he's a social winner so like I always I will always appreciate that aspect of his game but once again it's just like I don't care I don't care just finish the season give this man his check and get us to winners at War which I'll talk about it more as this goes along as far as my opinions on winners at War I think the reason war is so high on lot of people's list it's I mean it's in my top 10 but it has steadily moved down every single time I've watched it I think that if you watch winners at War directly after island of the idols you're always going to love it more than if you just watch it in a bubble and I think that when I do watch winers and War without watching out of the idols it's just it's just a fine season it's probably like my third you know it is still it's my fourth favorite returning season all rury season no third because m is not all rury but there's just it like I said I think once Sophie goes the season is

55:42 Kind of becomes like okay well Tony and there you had it you know it didn't seem I mean half of his Alliance basically quits and then the other one you know Sarah you know everyone knows my thoughts on how that went down Nick I guess he wasn't really a part of the alliance but like once soie goes it's Michelle Kim and Jeremy the only ones that I right that's where the comment stream you said that you did some event with Russell Hans was before had it come to be so at my old network we were covering we were doing pregame stuff for season 41 and one of The Producers was like Hey we're gonna have you know a very famous Survivor player join us along with I think at that point we had Luke from Idol we had peridium we had Alexa from the Specialists and somebody else I don't remember who the last person was and I'm like as long as it's that Russell H I'm cool and it was Russell Hans and so Russell's in there and he's

57:02 Drunk and this is before the season even aired and he was like I don't think I'm gon to watch the season because it's gonna be too woke and I'm just like what does that mean you know you haven't seen it I think once again I mean I knew what he was saying because he looked at the cast and was like oh it's too old because look at all the nonwhite faces on it and so after we finished recording he like sat there and talked for a bit and I'm not a rude person especially because I didn't have anything going on that night and he just kind of sat there and was just saying a lot of problematic stuff this is when parvy was going through her divorce and he was saying some really rude things about her some really rude things about rude things about Michelle Fitzgerald and then we told him that we were going to be going to Premier party New York City for 41 which the party itself was a lot of fun I bought shots for everyone as 8:00 started and the episode started but Russell's like oh I didn't get an invite from Wendell and I'm like I mean there's gonna be a lot of Survivor players there I'm sure that you know if you ask him anyway he was like well do you have to be vaccinated it's like yeah that is one of the requirements you have to be vaccinated

58:22 And he was like I don't believe in vaccine even though both my kids or one of my kids has Co right now this that and the other and I'm like well sucks to suck he was like well if I do come can I stay with you like whatever Hotel you get and I'm like it's my better judgment yeah sure he was like well Russell H doesn't sleep on couches and I'm like you ain't sleeping on the bed fam like that ain't happening and you know after a while you know we just he was never going to be able to go anyway I don't think they wanted him there so he didn't and I wouldn't have let him sleep in the bed because I'm the one paying for the hotel room and he didn't offer to pay for any of it so tough cookies so that was my experience he sucks he sucks and I'm glad that in 2024 the his a lot of his Fanboys have started to jump off of that ship because it's a weird ship to be sailing but I think people have slowly start to realize oh yeah he's not as great as he's been hyped up to be by the edit I guess even though I feel like watching it this time the edit still makes him look like a fool

59:45 So in your opinion what percentage of the cash should be 50 should be pre- New Era should they see the thing with themes they didn't I mean they didn't do themes with any other All-Star season besides or tribe wise besides Heroes versus Villains I'm fairly certain that's true it is true they didn't do a theme with any other all returning season except for Heroes versus Villains so I don't think that 50 needs a theme tribe wise I if they do a cast of 20 which I do hope they do I think it' probably be 10 and 10 just because of The Narrative of winners at War which once again I talked about this when we did the winners at War pod I don't think it was purposely old school versus new school I think that every person that went out Prem merge there is a you can look at the moment that happened and it had nothing to do with old school new school but I think to avoid that narrative being happening again for 50 they're going to do 10 pre 40 and 10 Post 40 and I think that you know

1:01:05 That would be a very fun balance you know once again everyone loves on the pre Post 40 Seasons but you can everyone can sit here and name 10 people post 40 that they would enjoy seeing play again it's actually not that hard because 42 and 45 alone have probably 10 players that people want to see play again so I think 10 Post 40 and then 10 post 32 maybe Post 31 so I think that the it'll be 32 to 49 as far as where they're getting most of their cast members from I seriously doubt they're going to cast anyone pre that unless they're like an alternate like hey in the event so and so can't show up hey I don't know Amy that can you come back and play for a third time or something like that I think that answers your question you know I am glad that they're doing because you know no matter how much I do enjoy the new era I do feel like we should get at least some pre 40 people back so I am glad that they're doing it was it was Liz it was Liz Wilcox of course and her mmat sh

1:02:26 And her mismatch classes yeah I love Liz from this season I guess I'll wait until later in the day because we're only an hour and two into this I off the top of my head I feel like there's probably one or two people that I wouldn't mind seeing come back from this but I guess we'll see I feel like I feel like after 40 I feel like after 48 they're gonna have the Casper locked down I think they might leave one spot open in the event that someone from 49 like really kills it but yeah I don't know let's see here this is the first immunity yeah this is the first immunity challenge is a very hard immunity challenge I mean I guess it's it might be easier than when they do it in the water but it still looks very hard oh my goodness I really need an energy

1:03:48 Drink Brian if you're in the chat can you hear the TV say no because that would suck there's a chance of no okay good perfect I think there's a chance of 50 being special I mean yeah it'll be special no matter what I hope it is and I'll probably love it regardless but I Fe prod will mess around too much and actually chice like fire token War yeah I mean production has shown over the last we're at 46 so the last 12 to 14 Seasons that they love a good TW a good twist so I wouldn't be shocked if they if they tampered with the 50 season let instead of just letting them play but yeah I feel like Nostalgia wise people it's very hard for you it's very hard for a returning season to not be good yet there have been non good returning Seasons All

1:05:08 Stars will probably always be my least favorite returning season because it's just you know unless you care about romber which yeah romber was fun the first few times I watched this season but like even then it's like okay I don't I don't care I don't care and you know everyone just is a caricature of how they played the first time most people just embarrass themselves Lex comes off as a huge hypocrite for most of it and for the people that come from the or come from the or LRG Community it's just a bunch of people trying to play friend vior and getting pissed off that Rob's not trying to play friend viver that's really what that entire season is everyone thinks they're friends and everyone has these big heads about themselves and Rob's just like yeah I'm just actually just trying to win and then he doesn't which is fine you know you know I think you know like Charlie says the winner always wins and they deserve to win I will say though if they were playing with people that didn't think they were playing friend Viber things may have been different but you know maybe not if you could Champion only one person in

1:06:28 All 46 Seasons so far who only played once who like to has only played once Earl Cole or vpia or Chris from Van watu those three if I had to pick one between the three of them probably Earl Cole but any of three of them I think it's a damn shame that they that two of them weren't at least invited back for 50 I understand that Earl was busy with life so I get that but you know the other two weren't invited and that's kind of all right so this tribe just lost for the first time so jalinski is going to go home and Bono's bonu is crying we go Jud so I the Specialist did an interview with Jud I think at the end of 2019 going into winers at War because they did like they would interview players that had played with each of the winners and I think they interviewed Jud for Danny boatride and he I mean he looked

1:07:49 Good this was also pre the world ending so don't know what he looks like now J was a fun pre 20 villain I can't say that necessarily ever from That season I would have Rafe shoot i' take Jamie or Bobby John again I like Bobby John is very fun J in his little Brom man rivalry with Jamie depending on what episode you're watching is also a lot of fun Guatamala in itself you know it's fine you know the Internet calls it the Forgotten season Survivor treats it like the Forgotten season you know we've had two rurys and one of them is Stephanie and the other one is the winner and I don't even think they mentioned Guatemala with Danny on win's or they definitely don't mention Guatemala for Stephanie and here verus villains and I think in what season did I just recently watch edge of Extinction Warg brings up every rury season every season that has aury on it aury makes it to the

1:09:09 End and he named every returning season or season with a returning on it with the exception of Guatemala so even doesn't remember Guatemala okay I hope Jervis is on 50 because we need Bor representation and I feel like his story isn't done I mean I do feel like his story is done he went from being his tribe is basically the first meme in Survivor history outside of maybe snakes and rats I would say that pagang is not only a meme but it's a part of the Survivor lingo and so I think that the fact that he went from being a part of pagong and coming back to blood versus water and sitting at the end I feel like that's a good book end to his story like I don't think Jervis is GNA come back for a third time and win that be wild but yeah I feel like I feel like his story is not much more Jervis can do what he's gonna come back and he's not gonna be able to swim again and he's not gonna want to eat you know during the Del delicacy challenge Borneo wise like once again I feel like

1:10:29 Because Borneo came out by the time they filmed 50 it'll been five years since Borneo so like even the youngest person on that cast would be late 40s early 50s and not to say that's an old age but I don't know how willing some people from Borneo or basically any season pre China are gonna want to go play again having said that I do hope that sir's back because of course sir's like the only person pre 20 that like I would not mind seeing play again because sir story can never be finished even when she goes and wins Traders and even when she goes and does her thing and Big Brother you can always have more sir and especially because she keeps going out in Survivor and the craziest of ways you know you know pan yeah fir making you know Micronesia pout face got her here's villain she's idled out and in Game Changers the only robbed player in the history of the show is Siri in Game Changers because

1:11:50 She had no votes cast against her she had no votes cast against her God [Music] I'm not going to rant about it because I'm so low energy right now I probably honestly probably around noon I'm going to make a couple sandwiches to see if I get any energy that way let's oh yeah that's you want to talk about stories I feel like her story is always going to end with her being screwed by some type of Advantage how are we doing yeah I think that yeah as much as I one CE to replay again yeah they will find a new way not on purpose it just kind of happens find a new way of sending her out and we're all going to be sad about it you know watching game changers this time around it's insane that once the air gets sucked out at that one tribal before merge it starts to gain its footing again but this time watching it as it's gaining his foing I'm still checked out because it's like I know what's about to happen and I just because sir's oh my goodness she's

1:13:11 Doing it's long story short I'm someone that was on 47 hope you enjoy the season can't wait to hear your episode Recaps one congrats on making to the cast I hope that you enjoyed your time out there I'm excited for as someone who likes the new era like I'm looking forward to watching 47 I hope that you guys weren't plagued with twists and advantages and if you were I hope that you were able to navigate it thank you I watch every review episode so I'll be listening yeah it's I'm I mean I'm probably going to do a probably going to go to a premere party for 47 I don't know where I want to go yet for it I mean that's very easy for me just to go to New York City for that but maybe Boston or Philly or something like that and yeah I don't worry I won't I won't dox you or anything but just wait and see it's insane I hope I hope so because like I was saying earlier I it's confusing how 46 is so polarized ing because I just thought it was I think it was a fine season his Banu going again with

1:14:31 His Banu is bonu isms even things like 43 which I understand 43 41 are so funny because the internet moms hated Erica and they loved Xander and the inter or the Twitter fans and of anyway we go to 40 three and gaer pretty much plays the exact same way that Erica does but at this time the Facebook moms love gabler and you know I wonder why anyway do you think that 50 do you think the 50 will be the end of Survivor no I hope not but I worry they'll see that as a good way to end Survivor P jumps the shark I mean Survivor jump the shark a long time ago and that doesn't mean that doesn't necessarily mean that it's bad because survivors w never be survivor's always going to be my second favorite show ever I think Survivor jump the shark probably after heres of his villains that were being honest but no I feel like even 40 would have been a fun ending to it I'm glad they continued and same thing with 50 you know no matter what they do with 50 I hope that they continue because it has legs and as we just

1:15:51 Saw with the viewing numbers after 46 people claim that they hate this season so much well you guys kept on tuning in and watching it's very similar to the NFL where oh yeah we don't want to watch this anymore because reasons and yet the NFL keeps pulling in crazy numbers so I think it's the same thing with Survivor you know as needs to bring in the viewers and the money it's not going away I think that at some point they probably change the host but not I think it'll be Jeff's call I don't think that there's going to be like Jeff you're 62 now you got to go I'm so hungry I love Siri and is one of my face I feel like if people are sick of seeing Boston raw play a similar sentiment should follow her too she's basically played as many times as him I mean that's true and I can't argue that but I will because I want to back and yeah I don't need Boston Rob back ever again and I'm not even a Boston Rob hater I don't need him you know apparently he did really well on dealer noale Island good for him I don't think that he's going to do well on Traders I feel like because the Traders is you know they might not because all those reality people know Boston Rob because he's

1:17:11 He's been around for three decades I think they probably won't know Jeremy Tony or Carolyn and they'll go after Rob first which is fine s though like I yeah Rob story is also finished Rob story after Redemption Island yes he comes back one more time for wers at War and that's fun three story actually has not has not ended if I come to a Philly party yeah obviously yeah if I no matter what I always do is like if I if I end up in a city that I know people in I will hit them up and it's just happens that I live two and a half three hours away from New York City so I kind of just that's the easiest thing I just take a Greyhound out there I get a hotel in Chelsea and I walk to either a Bryce Wendell party or St Pat's which is another place in New York City that do watch parties and usually my cast is Survivor New York and you know orgers and lgers that are in the area that go watch every now and then that was the night that I met Billy Garcia the night that I did a lot of shots with Billy Garcia was at St Pats

1:18:32 And that was a lot of fun because he you know he called the gaer win and I was like Billy Garcia you're crazy gabler's not GNA win and then he did and then we got junk on my snap story and I blamed gers went on Billy Garcia and he's sitting there laughing about it and it was an amazing time we're our first tribal we're at our first travel of the Season jalinski is going to go home he didn't outstay as welcome but like I mentioned earlier several has several has very much outstay its welcome and I cannot wait for 48 so that people stop saying 40 several and hopefully as I mentioned earlier hopefully 47 is just good to great so that we people look at it as 47 and not 47 Ru it's similar to like Cook Islands where depending on who you talk to it's like oh yeah it's race Wars some people still call it Cook Islands so this question was asked earlier and I said no I do feel like in the event that they do a

1:19:52 Similar to Survivor South Africa they do a pre-merge versus post-merge type theme down the line I think galen's name would be in the running because he has become such a meme because several has become such a meme but I still think even then there are a lot more there are more compelling characters and players that have gone out Prem merge that I think that would make the final cut but I do think that galinsky in that situation would at least get a Call of like Hey we're doing this pre-merge post merge Tye theme but for 50 no there's absolutely no absolutely no way and that's not a knock on him I just think because it's 50 they're going to have the characters and the players you know like I said 10 I'm thinking 10 pre 40 well 10 between 32 and 40 and 10 from 41 to 49 and that'll be it'll be a fun little and you know I understand that the internet fans oh we don't need anyone post 4S like that's a lie y'all know just admit that you like these people not necessarily these people these people but like admit that you like a lot of these new era players it's not

1:21:12 Cool to just hate on these folks I don't understand that rationale but you know teach their own I guess I don't remember anything happening in this like I don't remember I besides jalinski going home this I don't even know if he knows that he's going home I've kind of only been slightly paying attention which is yeah it's one of the reasons that Liz is my crush from this season really has nothing to do with the act like anything she does on the show it's how she battles trolls online which you know I love when they give the Jabron fans you know a taste of their own medicine because these fans have gotten like I keep saying they're going down Star Wars fans levels of crazy now and I feel like because these are real human beings a lot of them are they have a lot of stuff to say and I hope that if they do decide to come after you that you just tell them to off honestly just tell him to off Liz did that and the night that I like it wasn't

1:22:33 Make a pass make a pass her but she tweeted something out and I replied with I think I'm in love with this woman and she said something along the lines of like but can you hand can you handle me and I'm like if you give me the chance I would absolutely love to yeah so yeah I can't wait to see you know once we learn who you are down the line I can't wait to follow you and see you battle with the trolls because they're coming even if you're the most likable person on the cast they're coming let's see so how I don't even remember how this vot goes down I'm fairly certain everyone's is Mr jinsky I right I don't know that's so I this is like the thousandth times that I've mentioned this to say an hour and 23 into this it's crazy that I finished like 46 ended and then I had four days where I didn't watch Survivor and then I've watched nothing but Survivor for the last 46 it's a fun time though and we can talk about that watching it like this it's a fun time capsil into American history just and it and it's so crazy

1:23:53 To say it like that but it's true you know you watch season one and you see a lot of the you hear and see a lot of the stuff that's being said and even things like Shan and Rich's nickname for Rich which is you know whatever and if you don't remember what I'm talking about please go look it up yeah yes so that's so this is what this is this is the final day of 46 seasons and 46 days so I've been watching a season a day for today will be 46 and so what I've done for the first 45 is I'll watch a season and then I'll podcast about it at the end of the day I'll go to sleep I'll wake up and I'll watch the next season for today since it's the final day I'm just live streaming the entire day so that people kind of see my process my process is very boring because I don't talk this much what I what I'm usually watching but yeah and it's that's been this is what this is so like I mentioned before and I'm GNA be doing 50 and 50 in two years so I'll be able to watch your season well I mean I'll be watching your season live but you know what I'm saying

1:25:14 Know you'll have to let us know who you are after the season starts Chris Kahuna Drew monkey Jake love having players on the show yes and it's amazing thank yeah it's I swear I have an actual life outside of this I just haven't had an actual life the last 45 46 days that's just bege and I can afford to just sit around and do this for a month and a half oh so and you don't have to answer this how do people take it when the cast is leaked beforehand because I can imagine that it's kind of annoying you know because I you know you have to sign all these things and everything and then all of a sudden you're looking at your face on a website even though you haven't told anyone and none of you have is that do you guys feel like there's an invasion of privacy there if you can't answer that'd be great if you can I totally understand Jalen's gone all right so now it becomes the Banu show okay that's fair every casket leak so it's expected to contestants yeah and I think

1:26:35 That's it's kind of I mean it's the same thing with plot leaks for movies yeah I could imagine that I could imagine that's a wild like by the time you get back home and the cast has already been leaked the amount of people s I'll say it like this my cousin got drafted by the Eagles a couple months back and from what I've heard he had a lot he's had a lot of people slide in ever since then you know he's a third I think it was third or fourth round I think third round and the it just kind of happens you know you get these obsessive fans and some of them for some of them are probably not even trying to be crazy they just boundary spam let me at least be on the TV show first before you slide in the DN do you think anyone from 47 48 49 will be in 50 may have answer it but I'm tuning in one my phone yeah yes I think that there will be at least a representative from most of the Post 40 seasons on it what I

1:27:55 Hope they don't do is do one per each Post 40 season because I do feel like some casts have more people that we want to see than others specifically 42 and 45 I feel like there are a lot of people that we would want to see come back we as the non- crazy fans as far as pre well as far as those three Seasons I think they're going to leave one spot open for someone from those three but I think we'll have representation from to answer your question I think we're gonna have representation from all right we are on to episode two so I'll go ahead and put that in the chat starting episode 2 at 10:02 a.m.

1:28:55 EST and I guess that's a there we go EST realistically realistic 47 is the last season has a chance to be on 50 in my opinion okay so I guess with my question with that would be why not 40 why not 482 only because yall film back to back right you so we're going to get 47 in the fall 48 so why wouldn't 48 be considered in that equation if you once again if you're allowed to answer that great if you can I totally understand 47 finishes a in December filming for 50th during the Airing of 48 okay all right I'm okay that makes sense and I think I mean someone correct me from wrong but I think that they did do I think her versus Villains and Game Changers also was in a similar situation I think maybe even caramon was in the same situation but okay do you think there is

1:30:15 Okay do you think there's little chance of anyone coming back from before 34 do you think they shouldn't if there was I think it's 32 and on I think 32 we've had what the whole the entire final three crazy Debbie and I think that might be it oh and Beast SM Cowboy so maybe not even 32 maybe 33 and one because at that point we've got we've had we've had Michaela Zeke and Adam so 33 on so yeah right around right around 34 but I don't think anyone pre unless they're an alternate you know someone backs out and then all of a sudden you know we get Eliza or someone again Eliza is the first person that came to my head we get someone like that but I don't think that because and I know Brian brought this up in the chat earlier even going as far back as Borneo that was 25 years ago by the time they start filming this and all of those folks were at least in their 20s or older and so they'd be in their late 40s early 50s at this point on the you know on the younger side of things so I think that answers your question I think it's going to be

1:31:36 33 forward and I think that they're going to be I think a lot of the pre-40s are going to come from David versus Goliath edge of Extinction and probably Millennials versus Ja I don't think I don't think they're going to bring you back anyone back from HHH or ghost Island I don't think they want the Optics of having anyone come back from Island of the idols you know I have my I would have people that I would want to come back from all of those Seasons but they care a lot about Optics now so I don't think it's not like Thailand where they still I mean they brought xien back and I think they just wanted to have a season represent every season represented for Allstar so yeah I think that I think that aners your question what I'm going to do next is we're going to continue with my list so up next we have my 43rd rank season let's see how am I doing this number 43 number 43 we've got

1:32:56 Survivor That season we've got Survivor Nicaragua for everyone that listened to that episode that night you could tell how low energy I think that was one of the first Seasons that I really hit a wall during this process I it's not good you know the person that gets the most screen time one is fairly hatable and two quits at final eight final nine or final eight you know most of the cast is either forgettable or are Shannon and nanka I think that I mean obviously Fabio gets a lot of hate like oh man you know Fabio's the worst winner it's like okay once again worst winner is very subjective I think that there is a lot of Merit watching Fabio consistently be on the outside of everything and you know when they do finally decide to start targeting him he just wins out that's just what he does it's very Mike Holloway esque but I don't hate Fabio I think that yes naaka voting for him

1:34:16 To win is confusing considering how much she claimed to hate the kid but Nick rag was not fun it's not fun not in like a problematic way like whatever it's just not a fun watch it's never been a fun rewatch I think that even players like Marty I know people like to put Marty on like this pedestal of being a very underrated player on the season it's like everything that Marty does in this season is confusing at best and like crazy yet worse I think that Brenda low 1.0 is fun obviously I don't think that Brenda low 2.0 is any type of fun but you know that's more to do with that final tribal we were we were so close to having a Chase Rice Victory which I didn't know so obviously country music for me I like old country and like little big town and I like one song by Little Big Town so I didn't know who Chase Rice was and then years later he like randomly shows up on The Bachelor and I'm like look it's Chase and my friends I was watching it with

1:35:36 They're like yeah Chase Rice the country singer I'm like what do you mean it's like Chase Rice is a very famous country singer I'm like no that's Chase from Nicaragua it's like yeah he's a very famous country singer never knew that so we were yeah we were a couple votes away from having a Chase Rice famous country singer as a winner of Survivor and I still don't think he would have been on winners of War when is it what all right we are on episode two cannot wait to cut this off Venus is being isolated oh so that's the funny thing about this I think this episode aired about a week after the Jeff interview the infamous Jeff interview that everyone was so pissy about oh Jeff said no more villains and once again that's taken out of context Jeff never said that Jeff just doesn't want pieces of like Ben Brown like Ben Browning or Shannon from Nicaragua or you know monsters like that I don't think that Jeff was ever saying I don't want villains on the show because we have villains on this season and this episode aired right after that and you know what the internet fans did

1:36:56 They went online like I can't believe that they're treating Venus like this and it's so sad it's like I thought you guys wanted villains if you want villains you're getting them right here you're literally getting them right here the winner of 45 I would say is fairly villainous in a fun way though like I hyped D up yesterday once again I feel like people took what I said out of context too because I said that I didn't say that she was a better overall player than parvey shell or anything I said I thought that her win her winning game was better than party's winning game which is true because people overrate the poverty winning game because they think that it was just her and four other random people that were pulling off these blind sides when in reality it was reversed and it was everyone else doing this and part just kind of being there and Amanda pouting her way through final traval it happens started I started what time did I start I started I started at 8:30 a.m.

1:38:04 Around 930 pm. tonight okay what's the weather today my glasses boy I probably should like use the bathroom at some point but oh wait I'll wait until Bonnie starts talking again or something of course I had someone come to my office right as I asked question I figured they would put in the winners or who in the winners or who they think is the fan favorite I don't know if they're gonna I wouldn't mind having winners on 50 I'm kind of hoping that they don't 50 not because I'm against most of the winners but more because I feel like I would want a situation where we get a new winner if that makes sense you know similar to a second chances or is that the only rury all rury that doesn't have a winner on it I'm fairly certain that's the only all returning season doesn't have win wi yeah so I think I would have wanted more in the that

1:39:24 Area of just like hey let's not have any winners this time let's just have a let's get a new winner on an all rury season I don't think they're going to run to an allst star problem where all the winners go out first because allst stars is yeah I think that and that gives my point of view what I think will happen also see why don't I remember 10 it's so sad oh boy okay we're an hour and 40 into this I don't remember how long when I did 42 and 42 I think I think it went about 12 hours but once again that was pre 90minut episodes so I know I keep telling everyone it's gonna today's going to be 13 hours for all I know it could be about 13 and a half to 14 we'll see we will see but it's GNA be a it's gonna be a wild ride you know like I said H because today is Wednesday today's Wednesday because today's Wednesday you know I don't expect a lot of

1:40:45 Our former guests joining until later in the day because they have to work but I feel like at some point it's going to get start to get very crowded in here which I'm fine with you know I have enjoyed shooting the with everyone that I've had come on over the last 45 days I love the varying opinions I love the opinions of everyone in the chat like there were a couple nights in the chat where I feel like I did spend more time arguing with people in the chat than actually talking about the season but in a fun banterous way I never felt like I got mean or aggressive on either one of our ends certainly not on y'all's end but I don't think it was ever on my end but I just remember the Kagan one like the Kagan one went on forever and it was it was so because like I realized at a certain point like wow we really are just talking about how some people just really hated Tony That season meant for 4849 put in oh I see what you're saying I mean based off the fantasy answer you know it doesn't seem

1:42:05 Like they will be but you know for all we know oh they're showing Denise why are they showing Denise and Malcolm oh because of Charlie and Maria a that's Man Charlie and Maria this is going to be fun yeah I think that answers your question okay let's we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna put a new number 42 on the list so at number 42 we have number 42 we have this season at number 42 we have Redemption Island I mean you can you can basically say the same thing as Nicaragua except for I feel like they're at least there's at least a compelling there's an interesting character on Redemption Island and I will say that watching Redemption Island this time around I didn't hate Philip Sheffer I felt like he brought entertainment to a season that is very boring outside of the premiere episode of the merge episode of Redemption Island I don't care about anything that happens

1:43:25 There even rice Wars this time around it's like this is not fun I don't think rice Wars has ever been fun but specifically this time it's not fun but I enjoy Phillip you know I think that he's a he's Philips to me what coach is to everyone else which once again I just never understood the coach love Philip is that for me it's like yeah he's entertaining there's no way this man's ever going to win anything and I don't think that he's robbed these coach fans still think that he somehow deserved to win South Pacific he didn't win so he didn't deserve it so Redemption Island there's not much to say about it you know it's we get Andre belky out of it that's fun Rob gets you know he basically Moon walks his way to a win that's it that is it let's see here who's this oh Randon just found this a br Advantage what did you find I think it's a b a b Advantage

1:44:46 Man I'm so tired I know I keep saying that but I think it's because I'm at the finish line now that it's starting to hit me how tired I actually have been for the last 46 days so I can't wait to nap forever I'm going to make food around noon probably I'm going to go grab a monster at a little later I think when they there's like a l the season right when it becomes the Banu show I think that at that point I might use the bathroom for the first time I definitely need to go drink some water because I do feel dehydrated so yeah this is this is my first Dead air moment of the entire I just talked for 45 minutes straight and I just finally hit a lull and what to talk about which is fun I don't expect anyone to sit in here for the entire day I would hope that you wouldn't sit in here for the entire day watching someone watch Survivor 46 but

1:46:07 Let's see if it was if it was 100% up to you is there anything you would change about the new er that they haven't changed yet they've improved by losing the hour class yes but I still drop merory split tribals ATT 10 yeah get rid of murator es especially in 45 and I forgot about this until I rewatched it yesterday the fact that not only did they have merory but they also the who goes there Jay goes there and then they still have one more tribal before the jury starts even though they have they have now merged so sefue goes and then Caleb being the first juror merory it was an interesting concept until they introduced hourglass and even after they got rid of The Hourglass it's like okay you could have just gotten rid of this too I and I feel like survivors trying to compensate because they knew that a lot of the fans Not me but I knew that they knew a lot of the fans were going to hate this 26 days thing so they felt like hey instead of you know let's kill them by not giving them anything out there and let's make them earn everything that happens in the game including merge to make it harder on them I think where that becomes an issue for me

1:47:27 As a viewer is the merges I mean the merge hasn't always said jury because obviously in the earlier Seasons the first person at the merge doesn't make jury but yeah get rid of Meritor if I had it was 100% up to me though I swaps you got to have swaps back it's I know they had they had a real swap in 45 and they had a fake swap in 44 bring back swaps other than that you know I twist wives I feel like they have started to phase out the really bad ones like Do or Die you know they've gotten rid of a lot of these things that really got a backlash during 41 and 42 so yeah I'd say tribe swaps you know I do feel like they're starting to change up the challenges because a certain someone broke a lot of them in 44 so yeah if it was up to me I'd bring back the trip swaps outside of that I like the new era you know it's some I would say are great some of the seasons there are two that I would say are great there are three

1:48:47 That I would say are mid as the kids say and then there's one that's just like okay this is fine and that's all right you know in my head there has really only been one all andout Bad season of Survivor and it was number 45 on my list I guess you would scroll up it's Survivor Thailand it's the only all andout Bad season that has ever been there are some Seasons that are uncomfortable to watch but Thailand is just actually boring so you know I feel like people a lot of people like to speak in Hyperbole and say oh yeah 46 is the worst thing that's ever happened to the show it's like it really isn't it's not even close and it's crazy that people feel like they can vocalize that and not cringe as they say that because nothing problematic happens on this season and there are a lot of entertaining moments that happen on season there are some fun characters and I think the winner is pretty good pretty good I think that she is great because I love social winners so yeah I feel like people just unnecessarily on 46 especially but everything post 41 because it's the cool hip thing to do because like I keep saying Survivor fans are turning into Star Wars fans and it's not fun and here comes bonu

1:50:08 Oh boy I remember watching this and not I was I could never figure out if this man was just putting on an act or whatever and I still probably don't know there are not many moments of B has this season where it's like okay I can say with 100% certainty that this man is putting on an act but who's to say I do feel like At first I wasn't a big fan of Q because of his whole thing with Bono saying oh yeah let me be Boston robod and you be Phillip it's like that's not really how you want to talk to people out here but what do I know but Q grew on me and I feel like Q grew on a lot of the fan base I also feel like Q was hated by a lot of the fan base I'm assuming the Facebook moms probably didn't like him once again I wonder why I feel like if there was a lock from this season for 50 would probably be cute I know the Facebook mom GNA want Charlie back and that's cute I think that if they were casting based off of characters it's Q 100% of the time because he's one of those love him or hate him people

1:51:29 Oh my goodness I might change out of this a little bit because it start get hot in here put a short sleeve something what is her name oh I don't remember you either that's weird oh fudge I feel like my chair is going to break at a certain point because I've been basically sitting in it non-stop for 46 days what is her name oh my God I don't want to look it up because that's cheating I just wait for her to wait for her to give a confessional again oh Charlie like Star Wars that's so wow I can't believe it I know I kind of annoyed people the last few nights with hating of the Charlie archetype I as I think about it more I think I just don't like the fans of the people that like the Charlie archetyp oh here we go it's the Metallica it's the Metallica scene the

1:52:50 Countdown the Ben versus Charlie moment I felt like this the scene it started off very wholesome and then it just kind of dragged especially when they started keeping the counter yeah here we go this is It's it goes from it goes from fun to cringe very fast because it just keeps on going and I wonder obviously I wonder if these numbers are exaggerated by the time they get to the end but somehow I don't think I think that maybe they actually sat out there for 10 15 20 minutes naming Metallica songs yeah it just keep on going the scene just keeps on going it never ends H I guess I'll put some gum in my mouth CU I if I'm not going to eat anything for a bit I should probably chew on something

1:54:16 And maybe I'll add another maybe I'll Talk about a new number 41 on the list after I open this contraption why can't I open this all right oh is it I think so wow they're still going that's so cute they're at 10 4 105 okay we'll do another we'll do another one all right so at number 41 we've got ghost Island so for ghost Island I didn't remember half of the half of the pre-merge cast with the exception of like Jacob Derwin and

1:55:37 Both Stephanies ghost Allen is another one that's kind of drags it's very similar to allst Star were like if you're not invested in the rber storyline in all star and if you're not invested in the Dom w story line in ghost Island you kind of get sucked out of it and like yeah I was obviously I was invested in the Dum wi story line the first two times I watched it but like the Allure kind of goes away because it's like okay yeah who else can I and like I liked some of the characters on the season when they actually had airtime I really liked Kellen Jonathan was fun oh Li will Cox is on my TV so hold on I have to S over for her real quick I think the moms love Charlie because he reminds of their young adult sons the moms also loved gabler though like I think that yeah that's why they specifically like Charlie but they the Facebook moms if I if I think about this for a second 41 they love Xander 42 they loved Jonathan 43 they like gabler 44 was who did they like in 4 oh they like Carson 45 they liked I don't really know who they liked that

1:56:57 Season but 46 they were in love with Charlie and it's like all right once again I'm just kind of reading the room but hold on Liz is still talking so I have to I have to hear everything she says because she's amazing no I feel like they're potentially were there was but I think that gaer those women and I know I'm generalizing but the Facebook moms love them some gaer and it's ironic because I feel like him and Erica played very similarly and they hated her and they loved him and you know putting on our conspiracy hats for a second I wonder why that is I liked Owen when we talked about 43 the other day I feel that we didn't give him as the flowers that he deserved I feel like we did give him props but I don't think we talked about Owen enough and that is more to do with the fact that most of the time when I come

1:58:17 On here after I finish the season my goal is to do about an hour and then and you know rest for a little bit and so there's always and anyone that follows me on Instagram knows that like when I post I always put in parenthesis oh but we forgot to talk about this or we forgot to talk about that it's because we don't have we don't have time most of the time I think our longest I think I talked about 41 I feel like was our longest so far well until today but we won't count today no if I take there we are there we are I think the longest what was the longest wi is it war was it wners it War it was winers it War winers it war was the longest which makes sense like that's not overly surprising I think 41 might be the second longest though I think that answerers your question going back to it I think that answers how I know I go off on Facebook

1:59:37 Moms a lot Facebook mom Survivor fans a lot but like you can say the same thing about the Twitter fans because Twitter fans are the exact opposite they hated gabler and loved Erica they loved maryan and hated Jonathan I just happen to fall into the Twitter fans category I guess but you know everyone you know Different Strokes and all that I think the only time that I get annoyed with Survivor fans when it comes to who they like is when they name a certain player from Seasons 19 20 and 22 because if you tell me that you like that person I tend to just not value your penny on I'm just kidding I just tend to think that you don't understand the game but outside of that you know I've never like Ben Browning or Shannon from Nicaragua so like or anyone that says they like Jeff Barner so I everyone's opinions on their players I'm fine with I Sarah is one of my favorite winners you know everyone has their thing I think we're at the next immunity challenge are we already at the next immunity

2:00:58 Challenge or is this reward challenge why are yall so shocked that jelinsky I voted out was he was he oh I guess this is for immunity but we're only 30 where're 35 minutes into the episode interesting is this a double boot episode oh the purple tribe everyone just feel they all laughing at them soda them this is q is not about it Q's so pissed off it's so funny Liz isn't laughing CU Liz is adorable someone asked me if I was if I was being sarcastic about my Liz love and the answer is no I no I really enjoy her oh my Wi-Fi almost went out it's funny how the Facebook mons love the younger men like their sons but really love the young women on

2:02:18 The show also ironic if the dads like the young women it considered creepy yes I agree I'm 33 years old and oh God boners shut up younger women on the cast that I've like in my 30s I don't think there are many I think most of the women that I've enjoyed on the show like have been either my age or older but yes I do agree that it would be looked at as creepy if the dads were like into Venus or somebody oh what's going on here why do you pull out a knife oh yeah I can't believe we're already in immunity and we're like I said we're only we're only 36 minutes into the episode okay maybe this is a double boot or something but I'm the purple tribe loses yeah I think the purple tribe loses every because it eventually gets

2:03:38 Down to that three left three left oh this is the this is the simar of the Kagan the first challenge in Kagan they changed it up a little bit but it's different enough okay so we're two hours in we are two hours in so we've got about what 11 hours to go 11-ish hours to go and then I just probably won't talk all day tomorrow because I've talked for 46 days now I need to rest I need to eat if I'm being honest I really need to eat H get to the challenge that's I will say that as I have progressed to watching it this time I more I just don't care about the challenges I just I will sit

2:04:58 On my phone for most of the challenges because like I you know this going to sit out yeah I don't really care about the challenges and even though obviously they've changed them up a little bit but also I haven't said this in a while the ear your Seasons yeah I'll I'll try I'll try like I said if when my former like when people that I've had come on throughout this process start hopping in here later in the day I'll probably use the bathroom eat and have some water something if I'm honest I might go get an energy drink from the store because I need to I can't take a nap today like I normally have been doing but what I was saying was people ask me like do you do you cheat at all like do you watch on whatever speed one I don't know how to do that but two no because I just feel like I there I don't even know how to phrase it but all that is to say

2:06:18 I do skip the recap episodes and dur during the earlier Seasons that is something that I guess I do kind of dance around the recap episodes I think the last time we get a recap episode is probably like token jeans so I do skip the recap episodes in the earlier Seasons but outside of that I mean y'all can see when I'm normally when I'm recording this you can see the reunion happening in the background or you can barely see the reunion happening in the background you can't see all of it because we get flagged so that's how I go about it you know I just I'll watch a season I will send the link to the streamyard to whoever I'm having on when final tribal starts so they have enough time to like get prepared and hop in and we can kind of shoot the as final tribals happening and then I'll just kind of do a rund down if it's their first time one I'll do a rundown of how it's going to go if it's not their first time we'll kind of just do a cheers and then we just go into it you know and oh list and Mariah are meeting each other and yeah that's the entire process you know the fir whenever I get whenever I start to run behind

2:07:39 So especially the first week or so of this I was still working so I would have to watch on the bus to the college that I work at I would have to watch there was like a two-hour Gap where I couldn't watch anything as a coach I'm not going to have a phone out so on the bus there and on the bus back I could watch an hour I could watch an episode and a half basically so that's how I was able to do that you know there was a couple nights that I would go out to a bar and I would just have sitting on my phone with my headphones in just to make sure that I didn't fall behind if I knew that I was going to have plans going into the you know the day I would watch more you know I had a time just to make sure that I had enough time to do whatever I need to have done obviously I haven't taken any type of vacations this entire time yeah it's a it's a it's a long process it's a fun process it's a very I won't say boring it's never it's never been boring as much as it's just been draining and like I said I'm doing this one more time just one and then I will never binge watch the show again because only crazy people

2:08:59 Do that and I think I might be the only person that would fall into that category okay so we're in the immunity challenge right now I think this is the challenge where who goes home this episode I know it's not Banu because Banu survives for who goes home from the purple trap here per what's your faor she goes so that's going to happen I think the next episode is when we get the metac right and then the episode after that is Banu going because I think it I think this is the episode where he goes and leaks I think this is the episode where he goes and leaks that Kenzie's like running the running the tribe I think this is it might be the next episode Okay so that okay that makes sense why this the challenge is happening right now because they still have to do ship will Island afterwards so yeah that all checks out oh gosh have you watched any of okay so have you watched other country versions like South so I watched the final two seasons of Survivor South Africa I enjoyed them both Chris from nullified take was actually the one that put me on

2:10:19 To watching Survivor and I loved it I've only watched one season of Survivor Australia the Heroes versus Villains season Carly who I had come on what season I have Carly come on for China I think I made Power for China whatever season I had Carly on for she put me on to survive Australia and she said because fashion one Heroes villain was coming out she said you should watch it so I did and I really enjoyed it obviously I feel like for me South Africa was a fun Middle Ground between American and Australian because the Australian episodes there are a lot of them and the episodes are very long the American version up until 45 the episodes were shorter and we only got one and I felt like there was a lot of time that we needed more content I felt like South Africa gave us a very good middle ground of that no do I think that Bono would do better in future season no absolutely not I think that like I said earlier I don't even know if bonu was real I don't know it's nothing that he did this season

2:11:40 Makes me think that he's real whatever that means I don't I don't hate the guy or anything but he also doesn't seem like he understands the game at all so I don't think and I don't think that's going to change in future Seasons I hope they don't bring him back for anything I don't see them bringing him back for anything I you know as a big New Age person New Era person I at least understand the fandoms annoyance with bonu this season because bonu annoyed me this season because it became the bonu show and I know I have two more EP I got two and a half more episodes of the Banu show before the season starts to get pretty good yeah I don't think bonu does bonu is always gonna be the sameeh I hope that answers your question I don't think that ever changes persistence no did they spell persistence wrong yes they did they spelled persistence wrong they spelled it P Pence I spelled it P Pence

2:13:00 Per now they've got they got something going the purple trap is just oh they're so bad they're so bad there's always one there's always one that's so bad in the season was purple yanu is it yanu it's yanu what happened oh my it froze for a second that would really suck if my Wi-Fi were to somehow go out because then I would have to start watching my phone which I mean I have all the episodes downloaded on my phone just in case the Wi-Fi does randomly go out I don't think that it will on the day that I did 43 our electricity went out in the building so that was fun because I had to watch the last few episodes on my phone and the electricity didn't come back on for until 30 minutes before we went live and I was scared that I was going to have to cancel and this was going to get this entire thing was gone to hell but thankfully electricity came back on the air conditioning came back on because it was very hot in here I live in Upstate New York so

2:14:21 Anyone that lives up here or in the surrounding areas you know how hot it has been and how humid it has been the last month or so I'm thankful to have centralized air so that I don't really have to worry about it too much and why I can wear this inside and not be very hot but I do feel like I'm going to change out of this at some point because I am starting to get hot and it's probably because I've been talking for two and a half hour or two hours and 15 minutes come on come on you're almost there they're GNA lose but damn that sucks what was up with Q always trying to quit did you think he was a good player I think he was his Own Worst Enemy I think both I think his if it was strategy and him trying to play this wo as me card so that people didn't see as threatening or whatever I think there's Merit there and especially as an athlete like athletes get down on themselves a lot you know as a coach I feel like I don't like when my players do that because it's like you should be you should be positive and yes if you wanna oh I didn't do well today like that's

2:15:41 Fine but like I do also think he was his Own Worst Enemy absolutely and you know I feel like Q when Q comes back because Q is 100% coming back for 50 unless something crazy happens I think that we do get a better version of Q I think we're gonna get either that either we're gonna get a better version of Q or we're gonna get he's going to lean more into the Q character here in which case he'll probably do worse that time around I think if he cools his Jets a little bit I think we can get a pretty fun Quee for 50 but if he comes in trying to live up to the Q name for 50 then I don't think that he's going to have a great time I think purple's about to lose I mean I know they lose this challenge but I think this is where they actually lose am I mistaken this is this challenge is literally going on forever you skirt yeah this season has I won't say so many memes but it has enough memes that it makes it at least memorable it's it like gabone has a fair few

2:17:01 Memes and that's why like gabon's not the best season but I feel like because there are so many things that are memorable about it can't be terrible and it's the same thing 46 like there are a lot of things that I can remember from this season oh man they suck oh they're so bad that it takes it away from being bottom tier whatever that means where's the last SE okay the last season I did was 41 I was making sure so that when I think maybe I might maybe I'll do Gabon is train Rec yeah when we when we did it this time around I kept referring to it as survivor of the cartoon and I said I've never watched total drop Total Drama Island but I assume that gabone is as close to a liveaction total Dr Drama Island that we're ever going to get because it's just a bunch of cartoon characters being horrible to each other and somehow we end up with a final three of Dr Bob suie and sugar in a situation where I feel like I would have voted for suie there because she was the one only one that like had a pretty decent final Tribal Council sugar kind of just laid down and Dr Bob kind of just said oh yeah sugar

2:18:21 Did everything Gabon is I will say this gabone has my favorite version of ancient voices of all time like the F of the theme song gabone is my favorite version of that I would say gabone Africa all stars Heroes versus Villains and 11 12 and Exile Island would be that would probably be my top five yeah Panama Kone Africa all stars and Heroes versus Villains as far as the theme song I can hum them to myself and I know the difference okay so purple just lost again they are going to vote out that girl is this the episode that bonu goes to ship wheel Island and like Reveals All the power dynamics or is it next episode I don't remember I guess we'll find out shortly because I think how much time do I have left in this episode I got about 30 minutes left in this

2:19:41 Episode oh goodness hey we're almost done with episode two though so it's flying by isn't it so that we're going to move on like I said throughout the day we're going to have we're GNA have folks hop in that have joined me throughout the last 45 days probably just shoot the about this season and about this entire process but it's been I'm not going to take a nap I can't today Finish Line I can't do it today but so I will say that when I did this before like I said it was like it was on one o'clock last time when I did when I did 42 and 42 that I kind of just there was a part where I just kind of zoned out I won't say I slept with my eyes open basically because it was I was so exhausted I love Total Drama Island my daughter made me watch it with her over Co see I still have never watched it I know that I probably should as a fan of Survivor but and maybe honestly you know maybe next summer I'll just watch all Total Drama Island

2:21:01 But gabone Gabon is without knowing anything about Total Drama Island I just feel like gabone is what Total Drama Island would be like based off of literally nothing okay so they got the fishing gear Venus is still sad about something for those that hate the fact that 44 and 45 are Kumbaya which I don't hate it but for those that hate the 44 or 45 or Kumbaya 46 ain't 46 ain't in season 46 ain't out of season and I don't talk much about stuff that happens outside of the show because like it's not my business but they kind of made it our business by putting it all out there on Twitter and Instagram so that was fun to say the least so yeah for all those people that don't like when Survivor players like each other after the game you've got 46 you've got what there are a fair few seasons that I feel like they're people just did not Vibe with each other afterwards and that's fine I would rather people like each other after playing in a game because that's weird if they don't well it's weird that fans don't want them to like each other after the game I should say

2:22:23 But okay I guess I'll do number 40 we'll do number 40 so number 40 is this season number 40 all right number 40 is Worlds Apart when I did 40 2 and 42 I had Mama on to talk about worlds apart and I had to be nice because I didn't want to you know that she was on the season I'm not going to on her season while she's there because I find that to be very rude so I would ask her questions like why do you think that other people hate your season or this and that and she was great I mean I loved interviewing her she was just a lot of fun but I didn't have her on for this time around and I do hate that season oh I don't hate it I don't like that season even outside of the whole you know will Shireen thing there's Rodney thing there's everything dealing with Dan Foley Vince is a creepy weird enel guy

2:23:44 I like Mike Holloway I like Mike Holloway I don't think he should have apologized to Dan at final tribal but whatever man you win your money however you can but worlds aart it's not F it's another season where I kind of felt like okay yeah I'm just kind of going through the motions watching this again like I don't even think I really wanted to talk about it that night and thankfully the panel that I had made it at least more entertaining to talk about because I really just I wanted to get honestly I want I was looking forward to getting to Cambodia that I just kind of please just end this and Rodney drinks his own pee and that's not an exaggeration look it up R Rodney drinks his own pee and he uses it as like lotion and stuff that's a real thing that actually happens okay so Bonnie's pouting but he's not going to go home he's not going to go home right here which is insane because he's actually the worst yeah he's acting he's got to be acting he's got to be acting there's there is no way you're convince me that this man is real

2:25:05 But who's to say okay as we move on how much time do we have left in this episode I might want to give oh wait got 20 minutes left in the episode we're about two and a half hours into the stream and I still don't hate bonu yet but I know it's coming the chat's been a lot of fun so far today I didn't expect I didn't expect the chat to be this Lively this early on a Wednesday but I also know that we have people from all over the world so I don't even know if it's wednes I don't even know it's early on a Wednesday for some of you all so yeah it's been a lot of fun so far hopefully I don't expect it to do you have an all-time Survivor favorite is Rob sest Nino is my favorite I say Rob S is my favorite non winner my favorite is either Chris from Batu or Earl Cole from Fiji my all time crush is either Hannah Shapiro from M Gen X or Liz Willcox

2:26:26 From Survivor 46 but yeah Rob cin is my favorite actual player of all time California live in Austria okay all right yeah and especially watching it like this I'm always looking for players that I feel like okay maybe this person is actually my favorite player but I think it always goes back to Rob C and I'm glad that he gets taken out early and all like it sucks to see him get taken out ear in all stars but I'm glad he does because we don't need him to be a part of the mess that happens merge All Stars like that's just I don't want to see him have to deal with any of that favorite winners like I said are Chris from vanatu and Earl Cole I think they play two totally different games you know Earl basically played in a power position Chris it was fun to watch him navigate and his way to the end of the game because if I'm being honest that would probably be more how I would do just knowing my personality I feel like that's that would probably be the better of better option for me I don't do well with sitting at the top

2:27:46 So even though I'm a coach I don't do well with just like constant in a position of power yeah I think that answers your question Roby I'm trying to think if there's anyone else that like I really enjoy that's not oh sir duh I feel like sir's kind of the cliche answer but like screw it she's great she's great every single time she plays and she's great on the Traders and she's great on Big Brother let's see do you think that Amber deserved to be on All Stars I could season8 I couldn't think of a reason for her original Seas I think the reason they put her in there because people from her archetype turned it down and so she they needed someone from that archetype to come back and so if you if everyone else is saying no eventually you're going to have to get someone and they got Amber which I mean good for her you know she because she wins like it was all worth it in the end she gets a husband out of it she gets four kids out of it she comes reality TV royalty because they had a

2:29:06 They had a reality show for their wedding that's how big romber were at one point they were on The Amazing Race at least twice right I don't watch The Amazing Race but I know they played twice so yeah I mean it's the same thing though with like a few of those people on that season on Allstars because there are certain people on that season that up to that point were not looked at as the big names Boston Rob's a prime example Boston robs is the merge boot in Mar cases and you know he goes on to become Boston Rob people like Jenna Lewis I feel like she was not that big on borne but I feel like Jenna Lewis is another one it's like okay yeah she got final three in All Stars xen was on Thailand so and I feel like Sheen made it more with her second time yeah she was the one who was available and sometimes that's what it is I mean looking at the winners at warcast I can't believe that those that's the 20 that they actually wanted to ride with I think that was the 20 that became available when other folks had other obligations or they didn't ask certain people which

2:30:26 Is still weird to me game changers is probably the worst version of that of like oh man if you if game changers had a different name if you don't call it game changers and you just say oh yeah this is Survivor hey remember this person that would have been it would have been I don't think that people would hate on it as much but because you label it game changers you're almost putting into this into the audience's mind okay so these are like these are the big dogs and it's like yeah Sierra Don Thomas big dog she made she made use of her second time playing so like I'm you know would you I would like to see I don't think they're going to let it happen but I would I would love see where hash played again I'm going to watch House of villain season too because Richard hash is going to be on there I really like Rich but and I and I think I talked about this on the winners at War pod I think the problem is they were trying to after the Optics of 39 they were they wanted to avoid any type of mess and you know rich is

2:31:46 Known for being naked out there I don't think that they wanted anything to do with that and I think that's why he was kept off w at War and if that's the case I don't what is Bono doing oh my God this dude is so weird but yeah to answer your question I would love to see Rich play again yeah he's gonna be in House of Villains too yeah I'm really excited for that yeah that is a it's a more accurate theme Robin Amber dominated their first sh Amazing Race they came in second place okay cool I think I may have watched that first season like the first season that they were on but yeah I don't remember anything about it because it happened what 20 years ago is maybe a little maybe a little less but like probably around 20 years ago so I would have been 13 12 13 years old and I don't rewatch The Amazing race so I would I wouldn't know it's actually insane how many times I've rewatched certain seasons of Survivor I think I think marus

2:33:07 Maresis where is it War blood versus War there's a few seasons that I've watched a lot Meanwhile my favorite season of all time which is Heroes versus Villains I've watched maybe four times I watched it for 4 for 40 and 40 42 and 42 46 and I watched it one other time before all of that so like it's not it's not a comfort season it's just my favorite SE my comfort season is actually blood versus water or Cambodia I can put those on every day and be all right with it I could put on mares and every day and not get tired of it WI or because it's a movie because I call I call it survivor the I have to be in the mood to watch that movie and I think I mean probably the next time I watch it is in two years when I do this again but I like waiting to watch Heroes versus Villains because I like watching all the seasons that lead into it because I think it plays better that way as like a cinematic event it's much similar to watching all of the MCU to get to Infinity War Andor end

2:34:27 Game okay so are we going to traval yet like what's going on here okay do you have a first boot that you'd like to see play again what do you think about a season of all first boots I'll answer the second question first please don't ever do that I don't ever want to see with all first boots one I don't think that there would be 16 18 or 20 compelling first boots to have back as far as the first boot that I would want to see come back Natalie Anderson re spine jalinski whatever zaye Knight I feel like that's a very popular answer night I really don't need Franchesca a third time because at that point they would just vote her out first again because of the ls not really like I think those are pretty much the only ones that I would want to see play again I don't think any of them will but I mean Francesco played twice so who's to say like I said I don't want an all first boot

2:35:47 Season it would it wouldn't be fun I mentioned this earlier I do feel like if do a pre versus post merge Survivor season like they did in survive South Africa I think that would be a prime time to bring back maybe one first boot but not more than that I think there are way more compelling pre murders that are not first boots that they that would make that Prem merge cast more interesting yeah I think that answers your question I cannot believe they're not a tribal yet oh my gosh just go vot out what's her face got about 12 minutes left in the episode we're over the two and a half hour mark here I have I still haven't eaten or drank or anything but like said I'll probably I'm probably just going to wait until we have our first person hop in here today because I don't want it to just be a I don't want it to just be nothing so we'll wait for people to start hopping in

2:37:08 Do you think they should go back to final two I really I feel like final three is feel like final three is silly as it's usually only two who are really contenders I hope they don't I don't want them to go back to just doing I actually prefer like when you kind of make it a guessing game of like they did in Kagan and token je I don't know if they were it was a guessing game token cheese but what's going to happen are they going to do final three or they're going to do final two I think if you look at the first what the first four seasons first two were 43 season 3 was 52 season 4 was 43 five was 43 six was 61 there are a lot of times and when there are two people sitting at the end where it's very apparent who the winner is going to be I would say a final three situation and I think that the problem that you kind of run into is we can't do a final four because then the votes probably be all over the place and I also think the one of the reasons that they made it into a final three because

2:38:28 The robbed god or goddess whatever that means would always get cut at three and they got tired of it so it's like hey let's now let's happen the final three well you saw what happened after that is that person would get cut at four or five so now all of a sudden you add fir making to like give that person an extra chance to make it to the end I feel like I'm fine with final 3 I wouldn't mind final 2os being mixed in every now and then just to keep people on their toes but I'm fine with it you know it's not the worst thing that's ever happened to the show and there have been situations where all three finalists have caught votes I think the most recent time would be HHH I think Heroes Hiller sers was the last time that all three caught votes at the end I'm fairly certain that's the case I think the there are a lot of final 3es that I find very compelling I think the one world final three is very good and you know I feel like yes Kim is all time she's amazing

2:39:48 But I feel like that final 3 is very underrated because all three of them played really well I think all three of them performed very well at final Tri what is the I mean that's what is the worst thing I think that everything deal dealing with the merge of 39 would probably be the actual worst if you're just talking about twists I feel like The Medallion of power was horrible I think like do or die was horrible I feel like The Hourglass twist was horrible Redemption Island I don't mind the actual twist you know I feel like it's different enough that and it doesn't like they only do it what three different times and I think the blood versus water is probably the best version of redemp of Redemption Island there are a lot of compelling moments that happened on the actual Redemption Island Arena but so yeah I wouldn't put Redemption Island as even top five worst twists or on the show because The Medallion of power because

2:41:09 The doward die because of The Hourglass yeah that but if you're asking what the actual worst thing just period yeah I think that everything surrounding the merge of island of the idols is absolutely number one and I mean maybe the last the last Tribal Council before the merge in Game Changers is pretty bad Thailand and it's on its own is pretty bad but certain things that happen in Thailand are pretty bad Worlds Apart has a lot of stuff it's like man this is just horrible and why am I watching this why do I say this is my second favorite show it's pretty bad Redemption is not that bad Ed of Extinction is not that bad I know that's a hot take but I don't hate Ed of Extinction the season or the twist it's it is what it is it's not like it's not a good Twist by any means but and Bon's talking at Travel God he's the worst he's the worst I am now in my

2:42:29 I don't like Banu era of the day and I still get two more episodes of this oh jooy I'm glad I can't really hear what he's saying I can I have the subtitles on so like I see what he's saying but it just comes off as fake ah I'm am 100 on The Chopping Block but tell me where I'm feeling in this tribe everywhere fam what were you failing in this drive are you serious they know that I'm hardworking this dude is Je justff the worst Jeff I don't even know if Jeff is actually yeah I don't think Jeff's buying into any of this please vote him out they're not I know they're not going to I know that we still get two more episodes of this but I'm steing yeah he's I don't remember who I think I think I'm pretty sure you were the one that asked would do well on another season no I'm just gonna answer that question again no absolutely not

2:43:50 Damn I need caffeine Jess her name is Jess oh my God her name is Jess okay we're about 2:45 in to this we are wrapping up two I haven't voted yet but we are wrapping up episode two title Scorpio energy and we're going to head into episode three I think that's where the metac happens I think that's where the metac happens was it a metac feel was a met right I think so also so I know I had a text message earlier did I reply to it I don't think I did I okay yeah I replied to all my texts yes vote please oh my God just vote you know just vote bonu out if you have to really try to figure out

2:45:10 Just vote him out who are you voting God it's the worst I want to Fig I want I'm trying to figure out who I think is gonna show up first today I have people like I had people periodically text me throughout today and last night saying you know we'll stop in here and there but I'm curious to see who the first one is I've had I've had some very fun people this time I mean I had fun people last time I did this but like this time around and a lot of them were repeats from last time I think I think McKenna has done did the most this time around I don't think there was anyone close to the amount of times that she came on but even having people like I mean we out the other day which was great you know we had Chappelle from arap even meeting people like timy and having him come on for winners at War it's been a it's been such a great time he inspired me

2:46:30 To Google Banu on Gossip next door says he was also an actor yeah he's he comes off as a stage actor and that's not a knock on stage actors because stage actors are great but he kind of comes off as a bad stage actor we'll say it like that it's not fun okay Jess I think her name is Jess is gonna play her shot in the dark or is this an idol I don't remember that's a shot is that oh it's a fake Idol I think this is a fake Idol because she doesn't go or because she goes home here n yeah anyway yeah fin is the worst I know I've said that a lot in the last 40 minutes but it's true is can everyone hear the wind in the background my windows are closed and the wind is very loud in here how did they keep Bon

2:47:51 Over Jess I don't understand this tribe is just it's not good and it's crazy because the winners on this tribe and two people that make it fairly far on the merge are on this tribe all right so Jess is gone okay wait so if you can hear the wind can you hear you can't hear the TV right I hope not I know I've asked this question a few times and I keep getting no was the answer but now I'm paranoid again all right so Jess is gone we are wrapping up episode two they're going to do next time One Survivor and then we okay yeah can't still can't hear the TV cool this is good all good things all good things all right so they are leaving next time on Survivor next time on

2:49:15 Survivor I need some help Kenzie Mermaid Dragon yeah the Mermaid Dragon thing comes in this episode okay perfect the only good Banu content is when he basically gives Kenzie the Winner's edit when he goes to ship wheel Island and says oh yeah she's running the tribe and when he calls her a mermaid Dragon all right so starting yes I am I know that there's been like this thing now where they you know it's going to be a shortened season and I think it's like going to be like 16 day I think I read 16 days or something like that and it's going to be more just all survivors are going to be represented in not just us at this point which is which sucks but I'm gon to watch it anyway just in case they have surv us Survivor players that I care to see or just anybody I would I'm going to watch it no matter what all right episode episod three oh let's see starting episode 3 at 11:25 a.m.

2:50:32 So then once again people can kind of follow along if they want to like I mentioned earlier at any point if anyone wants to actually follow along I could leave time stamps if you really want to rewatch with me I'm doing my best to give commentary but right now since the Banu show that's all there really that's all that's really happening right now it's is Banu soda and Venus have some weird rivalry but we don't get much time with them so it doesn't matter oh shoot something in my eye why did they vot out JZ Bon sucks all right let's go back to we're on a new episode so we can go back to my list that's not a real Island so it doesn't matter where she got it from also like deleting all my emails okay so

2:51:52 Up next on the list we have number 39 and number 39 how am I doing this what am I number okay so I'm doing the I'm doing that number 39 we have this season we have Survivor South Pacific a season that once again you know I the cult thing really is just uncomfortable to watch you know once again I know there are these weird people that think that coach was somehow robbed of winning in that season and it's like have you ever gone back and watched South Pacific because he's very apparent how this guy didn't win you know the cult thing the fact that he reverts back to being holier than thou coach at final tribal it's like yeah man you're not owning up to anything you're just you know the fact that he used religion to manipulate a very unstable Brin enhance it's the only time

2:53:12 That I can support Brandon hanses when he's taken advantage of by you know a false prophet you know the fact that he said that I guess God basically told him to tell Brandon to give the necklace away like what is that God helped them find the idol even though they had already found the idol I really loved Sophie Clark as a winner than I loved her more on winners at War I enjoyed that's it I think I just enjoy Sophie clock on that season oh no and then Stacy of course of course I like Stacy how could she not one of the most iconic monologues in the history of the show so yeah South Pacific's not the I mean it's not the worst Redemption Island season but that isn't saying much I think aie 3.0 is fine I guess Cochran 1.0 is better than Cochran 2.0 in my eyes Dawn 2.0 is better than Dawn 1.0 in my eyes

2:54:32 And Coach 3.0 is the worst of all the coaches by a very large margin coach 3.0 is just the worst not as bad as Banu but close okay we're on episode the credits and this is one thing that I am glad they brought back CU they we hadn't had credits probably since Worlds Apart maybe Cambodia yeah we hadn't had credits in a while but yes re I think my favorite Survivor line is stick plan it's such an iconic line because as first AR Keith now like great character on the show and makes it almost to the end in both times that he plays it and that he plays stick to the plan is such a fun moment because of everyone's reactions to it's like what the hell are you doing and he just in his little chuckle after he after he says it and it's just like Keith just has no idea what's going on and it's so funny to watch yes stick to the plan iconic line

2:55:55 I'm going to probably change this camera angle a thousand times today but we're heading into hour three though we're heading into hour three we probably have about 10ish hours left so when we get into single digits that'll be a fun with how much how many hours we have left B is baning again I really I'm afraid to look up how many confessionals he has this season because I feel like it's going to be if I had to guess Bon probably has like 37 or say 37 conventionals this season and that's literally just a guess off the top of my head he could have four for all I know he doesn't cuz he has four in like every two minutes but 37 if I were to guess if anyone wants to look that up by all means please do how's he wearing the sweater out there I can't imagine that it's that cold at this time of the day but who's to say I kind of wish I had alcohol I know I said three hours ago oh yeah I'm just G probably stay this whole thing but

2:57:15 Yeah I kind of wish I had alcohol right now is yeah mainly because I think I drank for most of these which is bad but it's Tradition at this point and I don't think that I ever made it apparent I don't think I made it apparent that I drink I obviously I drink on camera people can see me do it but oh God he's crying and it's not really tears it's all fake it's all fake he's not real oh I was close Google says Banu had 35 professionals to squeeze into four episodes holy all right that was two off yeah that's not surprising that's not surprising at all oh mermaid yep Dragon yes yeah that's that of all of his confessionals that is the best one the Mermaid Dragon but once again just him

2:58:35 Describing it comes off as bad theater acting and you can't take it seriously oh man I have my eyes are droopy Maria had 31 and she makes the finale she makes the finale 31 that is insane oh my god and I feel like Marina is a pretty compelling character this season so I don't know what their obsession with Banu was but I mean also he very much plays into it so he's doing his job because he's getting all the content and I guess it does also help that his Tri his tribe keeps losing yeah this is where q is saying that I'm Boston Rob and you're Philip and I think this is where I'm like I feel like Q's probably not gonna win because that's like a bad that's how you talk to people but [Music] I still got one more episode of Bon I can't believe this

2:59:56 Purple lost a lot so guess yeah purple lost a lot that's what that's yeah that's exactly it but I mean I'm wackadoodle who is this who is this jackass as Lobdell said about coach and token Chans who is this jackass yeah I'm definitely going to change my shirts soon because it's quite warm now oh also I have to my fantasy team for all my fantasy Baseball fans out there I need to set my roster for today yes they want to vote you out Bon because you suck you're like the actual worst oh I already set my roster we're good okay last thing I was South Pacific I'll wait a little bit before I do my number 38 you can wait you can wait a while it's been a while [Music]

3:01:23 [Music] uhoh all right we are now in the three hour we are into the third hour of this so we've got about 10 hours left and I still have not eaten or drank for his bathroom but we'll wait we are these numbers your personal rankings of season Yeah so basically throughout this entire process I'm going to just leading up to number one which number one I've already spoiled but just I'm going to give my ranking as I go along during the day what was the last one that I did oh South Pacific okay I guess I'll do 38 in a little bit but yeah those are my these are just my personal rankings I don't think there's any been any surprises so far I hope there haven't been any surprises so far I feel like these are probably the seasons that a lot of people have lower on their personal rankings for all I know people have island of the idols as their number one or Thailand that'd be crazy but to each their

3:02:45 Own h gem I remember Jem I think Jem was a person that a lot of people thought were was going to do I think everyone a lot of people thought that Jim was going to do a lot better than she ended up doing on the season I know that she was a winner pick for a fair few people that I know I make lists for everything I my favorite books movies TV shows other things but I mean Survivor seasons is especially if because I because I been to watch them like how I do I kind of you know I just feel like I not obligated but feel the need to and I also like I also like sharing my list compared to others because it is fun to see how certain people see certain Seasons because everyone watches things differently so you know I know that

3:04:05 You know there are some Seasons that I like that a lot of people despise and vice versa I know like I've mentioned more than a few times the 46 I didn't hate it's probably middle of the pack for me but I know there are certain people that think it's the worst thing that's ever happened it's like once again have you never seen Thailand have you never seen any of these other Seasons but you know their opinions so can't argue with them like what you like don't be a dick so Jim is looking for an idol I think she's looking for an idol I don't even remember if she finds him what episode did I go to a watch party for I think I went during the hunter boot episodes the last time I went to a Survivor party because I think excuse me I think at that part at that point right around the Hunter episode is when I really start like prepare for this so I couldn't afford to like

3:05:25 Go out much anymore because I knew I was going to be buckling in for the Long Haul let's just G her a confessional I love this all right we'll do we'll do the next season all right so what do we have next we have number 38 I don't remember I know four people went home with them I don't remember if anyone played one I guess we'll find out throughout the day though right number 38 we have Survivor this season number 38 we have Survivor All Stars god I like obviously I like the concept of an All-Star season I think there have been way better All-Star Seasons this is the worst Allstar season

3:06:46 And I think one how everyone treats Jenna on her way out with oh man I can't believe Jenna would come out here when her mom is dying I know that I told my family not to die until I got back home and this that and the other or don't tell me until I get home and Jeff's like oh yeah it kind of seems like you've been talking to people off the island she's like no I just have a feeling my mom's not all right I don't like that I don't like the fact that Kathy refers to Jenna as a cancer on the tribe when her mom is dying of cancer I don't like the fact that everyone thinks they're playing friend viver and they all get voted out by their friend because they're and they get so butt hurt over the fact that their friend voted them out of a game I don't like the fact that Lex was a hypocrite and you know tells Ethan hey you know I'm here for I'm here for the money this time there are no friendships and then when Rob uses their friendship to vote him out it's like I can't believe that he would turn his back on his friend it's like yeah you mean like how you did to Lex or how you did to Ethan I don't like the fact that the winners are unnecessarily targeted for some reason I don't like the reunion where the fans Boo

3:08:06 The out of Jerry for saying something that like her point was very valid we are all real people and I'm sick of you know us kind of being treated like this that and the other and F are like oh no I can't believe that she thinks she's a real person and so they boo her I'm fine with the love angle it's all right I guess my favorite episode of the season is xen winning immunity and that Alliance having to turn on each other and they vote out Alicia I love the fact that Rob and Amber like got big Tom and rert to go after each other because they're both you know that's about it I'm not a fan of all stars and I know that Emily is a big fan of all stars and I just me and her will always butt heads over it because I think it's the drizzling shits but somehow I've watched all stars a lot as well I don't know how that happens but I've watched all stars a fair few times and I always try to find Merit there I always try to find something to latch on too

3:09:27 And I really can't it's not good okay so yeah that's number 38 I probably should slow down maybe not I don't know oh this is this is when Randon Brandon's about to be evacuated is this a whole 90minut I guess it has to be a whole 90minut episode wacka yeah they do not this season but wacka Doodles do win there's a wacko doodle that won season 43 so and that's un insult I think he was gor was a character but I think that he's ready to be I don't know if he gets removed at the beginning of the episode or the end of the episode because I know I do remember them showing up to the purple tribes Beach and being like Oh yes you get a reprieve and we get one more episode of bonu because of it so are they going straight to the challenge I guess so that's so crazy they're so they have the challenge this is definitely the EP this is definitely the episode where bonu rats out the alliance on the purple tribe

3:10:47 To everyone else Randon gets evacuated but I can't tell you anything else that happens during this episode Jess voted out why is everyone so shocked I don't understand I mean maybe because fli and Bon is still there but I don't know it's almost noon though which means I get to I get to make a sandwich soon so that's fun the first exciting thing to happen today mayo and turkey and maybe ketchup who's to say or is this a reward no this is an immunity challenge interesting for some like the episodes seem to be flying by I feel like post challenged episodes seem to be kind of middling a little bit but like the fact that I'm already on episode three and the fact that I'm already 22 minutes into episode 3 is kind of

3:12:07 Insane so I'm I know this is I know it's going to get harder as the day progresses I know that but right now you know I haven't hit a wall yet I have done pretty well at talking it's what I do I do for a living I talk so you know three hours 15 in doing all right for myself still trying to guess who the first person is going to hop in here today my goal is I'm hoping that I can have every single person I don't like obviously I don't think that's going to happen because you know people lives but if we can get most of the people that have been on throughout this process that would be great just so I can thank them all individually even though I've thanked them a lot over the last month and a half you know because this is this is not easy and it's it not easy to get people to you know want to come one and talk about seasons and so the fact that you know I've had I didn't have to do a single season alone this time around meant a

3:13:27 Lot because the first time I did this I think I had like two seasons where I had to I had to go at it alone if you know you know so I assume that purple loses this one again because yeah because they're going to try to vote at Banu and Randon gets evacuated so they don't have to vote at Banu which sucks because we get one more Bon episode oh kin like fell off that they didn't even jump for the last three years last four years I've dressed as Jeff probes for Halloween I was supposed to dress as Fred dur last year but I was like super I was going through a lot so I didn't want I didn't bother buying anything so I was just like all right I guess I'm dressing as Jeff again so this is actually this is the Jeff that I dress as and the sh and the cargo pants the blue Columbia

3:14:47 Shirt and the green hat this is this is the version of Jeff that I dress as maybe that'll change this year maybe my life won't be in a spot during Halloween this year and I can dress as Fred dur finally and do it for the nookie oh bonu made it over good for you good for you oh good for you who said that is that Christian Bail ran I think this a Christian Bail ran I'm so hungry oh Venus over all right here we go how did they blow it this time because yanu is actually doing pretty well this time around but we know that they lose and I can't remember how they managed to lose this time

3:16:11 Around rumored billionaire Liz wiox shout out GE worthy seven days of fatigue on F they haven't eaten anything yeah how does how do how does purple blow this one they've got a solid lead oh goodness I can't remember Mariah's got a nice little cut on her lip I'm G assume someone kicked her when they went over the thing oh okay yes the great equalizer is this part of the challenge so yeah that prob that checks out that they lose this one soda I know Soda was another person that I remember a lot of people picking as a winner this season so she didn't flame out though she made it I think she was early merge if I remember correctly she was early merge guess we'll find out in the

3:17:36 Next oh yeah they've got the Great White Hope Hunter who I didn't mind I liked honey perfect than thank you very much thank you hope to hear from you in a few hours yeah thank you okay yeah the chat the chat's been going pretty well today like I said I didn't expect the chat to be crazy this early in the day just because you know people have work and all of that and I started fairly early but the chat has been one of the one of my more favorite things about this entire process especially the last few days chat's really been popping off about a lot of stuff to the point I think for 40 43 or 44 we realized oh man we really have not talked much about the season because the chat just in a f like I said in a fun argumentative way I've never felt like the chat ever got problematic and I don't think that we ever

3:18:56 Will but it was just fun little debates and sometimes people will say stuff in there that I disagree with so I'll just you know I'll give my retor and we just kind of go from there but like I've never I've never felt like anyone will say anything so out of left field that or so out of pocket that I was like all right maybe we should ban this person that hasn't happened yet and I don't think that it will I don't think it will happen today famous last words though so we'll see all right we are 30 minutes into the episode I cannot believe that purple loses this one again that is insane Charlie and Q come on Q maybe it's different this time maybe they actually win this time I think this is the challenge where cute the this I think this is mightbe the challenge the first time that Q says oh yeah I want to quit or whatever Kenzie with a bigle smile on her face

3:20:16 C she knows she's not going anywhere wow that is crazy that y'all were able to hear the wind but not hear the TV I'm thankful because I don't want to get flagged but that wind is coming in very loud might as well just put my phone on do not disturb oh well I don't know I sent the Z so I did s not the zoom link I sent the streamyard yard link out to everyone last night just because I knew that I wasn't going to I was going to forget today if I did so like I sent it out to everyone last night I said everyone of you know same thank you note but like I said I want to give them all individual thans as they hop in throughout the day so Liz been and Banu so bonu rats out the tribe to Liz and Ben okay I don't remember that I remember that I remember him writing it out I didn't remember he went with Liz and Ben I didn't realize that Liz had any interaction with this human being I'm sure Bon

3:21:36 Is a great guy in real life like this is all just the character on the show but it is what it is we're getting close to three and a half hours [Music] it's kind of flown by if I'm being honest I haven't it's been great that the chat has been what it has been but it also has been great that you know I can talk out stuff like as normally when I'm watching these Seasons I'm sitting in pretty much Dead Silence I will text people that will be coming on that night just kind of saying hey you know this is the time that I think I'm going to be finished with the season you know that's pretty much it I don't we really don't share notes because I want it to be as fluid as possible but yeah this is more of a guessing game that's that is I guess a part of the process so like I'll wake up and I'll watch a few a few episodes then I'll like watch YouTube video or two to like just take my mind off Survivor for like 20 minutes and then all of a sudden things will happen and all of a sudden I plan on going live at 9

3:22:57 And then I it be at 11:30 at night by the time I actually finish and I'm like hey are you still going to be up you know my apologies life got in the way this that and the other and everyone's been very flexible with it so I'm thankful for that oh what am I being tagged for want to update yes I do want an update boner got taken on the journey and he's going to rat out all of you and it won't matter because Kenzie is still gonna win so you pulled it you pulled it out girl I also feel like my voice might be slowly starting to go away so that's not fun yeah it is oh my goodness okay I think I might have it back [Music] we Liz

3:24:18 Willcox the queen no I'm good on I'm good on that good on that I'm scrolling Twitter right now yeah this is definitely when this is definitely when Q's having his first of many of I guess not many having a few moments where he questions himself maybe clearing my voice clearing my throat won't help I don't know I don't know if singing that's gonna get me flag so I should probably stop keny has very blue eyes or are they green I don't know maybe they're green we got five minutes until we're three and a half in which means we are getting closer and closer to having less than 10 hours to go which is fun I guess

3:25:41 So no I'm not doing a recap so basically everyone there's an open invite to everyone that's been on throughout the last 45 days and so they're all just going to be hopping in throughout the day I don't think Chris is going to be able to make it I know Chris's life has gotten pretty busy recently Mony I hope is able to hop in it would probably be able to hop in tonight because of the time difference Kahuna I you know I extended the invite to everyone with the network I haven't heard anything it would be it' be great if H made an appearance but yeah I'm hoping that you know Jake I know I don't know if that was but anyway I would I would hope that some of them hopped in but you know I understand if life gets in the way but no so we're not doing a recap tonight like I soon as soon as this is done I am done for the day I'd be exhaust I mean what I'll probably do is I'll start recapping the season as the finale is airing and maybe even during the reunion

3:27:02 I'll do like a brief recap but I'm not doing it last night was my final recap because I'm gonna be because I'm basically talking my way through season like this I feel like it would be redundant to do a recap at that point but it also depends who's going to be in here at that point because if someone is in here that is like really trying to talk about the season I'm not going to cut them out just because you know so I guess we'll see I hope it's not supposed to rain today because that would mean I would have to turn my lights on earlier than I planned on let's see nope supposed to be sunny and hot all day so that's good I guess things won't get dark in here whe in the sky keeps on turning what's the best rugby nickname you've ever heard what's the best rugby nickname you guys have ever heard if for all the rugby players I think

3:28:23 Bon is ready to rat out his tribe to Liz and Ben Liz is gorgeous as always I think at around hour five or six I might repost and to say hey everyone I'm going to hour five or six can you believe I'm still doing this chair is not the most comfortable oh Bono thinks he's gonna go home tonight would you like a hug a you poor thing B sucks I can't wait to cut all of this off oh my gosh I don't think that I've cut my hair since miday early May you're at the end of a marathon you can see the yeah I can

3:29:44 I can see the Finish Line I can't it is right there and I just oh there's no point to as someone said earlier oh just take a nap like no at this point like there's I can't take a nap like I committed 46 days to This I Gotta I gotta finish it out oh fudge all off Banu oh my God it's so bad yeah you tell him Ben you're you mean you're not strategic fam you're not he's not oh Li is empathetic to Banu do we want to talk about my next season on the list yeah why not we'll talk about the next season on the list next season on the list

3:31:04 Is all right so at number 37 number 37 we have this season all right number 37 we have Survivor Heroes healers Hustlers Prem merge drags Prem merge I actually don't I didn't remember certain players that were there like I know it's been a week or so since I watched that season it's been about nine days since I watched that season and I can't remember half of the pre mergers I think the merge is interesting I actually really like Joe I really like Dr Mike I think that the I can appreciate how Ben wins because he is willing to get up in Ash crack a Dawn and find idols and all that yes I understand people qualms with fire final four fir making being introduced I don't really have an issue with it

3:32:25 I the season is anything else is just boring to me but I don't have any big issues with it outside of it's just boring I loved Chrissy that jury didn't and I mean the Ben bombs the Ben bombs were fun the Ben bombs were fun it's one of the last seasons where we get like really one of the last seasons that we get like really fun idle plays so I can't complain about that there's no bug in here but outside of that like I said it's just kind of a boring season that day really I took like a two-hour nap that day if I remember correctly cuz I was fairly bored throughout most of it so yeah 37s Heroes healers Hustlers I don't have much to say about it outside of that where are we at number 36 is going to be that okay cool number 35 is where the hot takes really start though so stay tuned for that

3:33:45 Wheel in the this is the scene where bonu has to do the puzzle and I think he fails and I think he has a breakdown because he knows he's going home but he doesn't go home because Randon goes home because nothing good can happen to us in the first four episodes of the season thank goodness this dude goes next episode because I can't I can't do much more of it last time I saw any of you whe in the I'm so hungry oh Bon why do you exist why are you here how much time's left in the episode oh we got about 20 minutes left in the episode yeah see like this is flying by pretty fast because I started this episode at 1125 I think I posted you got 20 minutes

3:35:05 Left yeah that about an hour yeah hour and four minutes like I said the 90minut did I freeze there the hour the 90minut episodes are hour and four minutes the hour episodes are about 43 and the 2hour episodes are usually about an hour 25 so if I can hit the merge by if I hit the merge by maybe like 2:30 or merory I think I would hit merory around 2:30 maybe three o'clock bonu you suck and you have no vote and yet somehow you still survive until episode 4 and now he's fake crying again he's such a horrible he's a stage actor but like a bad stage actor Sega who's on the Sega tribe oh that's the Mariah Charlie Maria gem

3:36:31 Tribe Tim I think his name was Tim is also on this tribe Nami that's this W Cox's tribe of course yes I love her too soda I don't know why my camera did that oh Jeepers oh Bonos yeah they're going back to their tribe and they're telling everyone hey Banu told us everything even the other tribes are talking about bonu now look how look how far we've come it's now the bonu showing all three tribes yep now they're saying yeah Kenzie's the one running the show Kenzie is clocked as a threat and episode three so for all you Charlie Fanboys

3:37:51 Kenzie's been a threat the entire time the entire time but you know I'm basically trying to convince no one at this point because everyone's going to have their opinions oh gosh yeah I'm so glad I didn't put any money I mean I don't have any money but any money on women's basketball today let's see here in the I don't know why that song is stuck in my head today five 45 47 I videos live all right why does it say that then I don't know B is going to lose his boat but it doesn't matter because Ron's going home and everyone

3:39:11 Here we go even a shirt be kind why not to him nothing exciting happened I feel like the story is very convoluted for no reason and he yeah I wouldn't buy this either and they're looking at him like he does they don't buy it so God works for yeah he's gotta go he's gotta go for all my Sopranos fans he's gotta go yeah they asked him and he told them yeah I'm going home and Kenzie's running the tribe because I'm a crazy person that's about it yeah I'm sure that's about it B

3:40:35 God you're right there was more he ratted y'all out Tiffany all right we're at 340 we're getting closer we've got 14 minutes left in the episode is that math check out what does it there's just 14 minutes left I don't know anyway but I'm almost on episode four so is all good things all good things yeah they're 100% of course you do Q of course you do oh because they're not going to tribal okay yeah duh I was like why are they not at tribal in if there's only 10 minutes left in the episode but because they don't have Tribal this episode but they also haven't gone back to Ron's Beach yet to like does it happen that fast they just like you're not here anymore and then they

3:41:55 Cut because they also go back to this beach after they do the metac just so they you can see bonu saying oh yes I guess I'm not going home because they I think yeah Q's trying to flip the vote on someone else here yeah he's trying to flip it on Kenzie to save bonu to save bonu why q k go home of course Bon Believes In Miracles the miracle happen happens and he doesn't go home God Wheel in the Sky Keeps on yeah they Q went to the saaya way of cut we talked about this last night

3:43:15 With saaya cut trying to cut out Caleb like the third round and how it's kind of crazy to do that and q's basically trying to do the same with Kenzie here and thank goodness Randon thank goodness what everyone knows what I mean gets metac because I don't trust that they wouldn't have been able to pull it out but it was to say oh boy Ty Bon a liability Ken's a threat Ken's a threat round three once again like who cares it's round three just get rid of bonu mentioned you what do you mean what am I tagged

3:44:36 In good times good times oh my goodness why is where's this bug coming from and why can't I kill it oh Liz is on my TV again oh never mind they're doing the Met oh Randon yeah this is where random goes oh my goodness my circles are getting way worse next time though I will look more like a human so yeah this is sad this is

3:46:09 Sad so I was getting around lunchtime I think I said I was going to make food at noon and I definitely did not make food at noon but I will soon probably do all the stuff that I need to do soon who's to say we'll wait we'll wait though for our first for our first person to hop in at that at some point Brandon report thing say let's send that text message out days progress all right sent out I cannot believe this day

3:47:29 Is July 10th like I actually did it I did it again I got to this point again I'm proud let's see oh God all right cool anyway Brandon is going home and we still are going to get bonu content we've got six minutes left in the episode and I fairly if I remember correctly I think they do go back to the purple tribe just to tell them that they don't have Tribal which means we get more Bono content right here which is just the worst but here we go Randon has been has been pulled from the game right here and yeah Venus

3:48:49 And yeah go leave so we can get this bonu mess out of the way oh my goodness so we're down to 15 we're down to 15 right here why are you crying Banu why are we getting more content Banu we've got basically four minutes left in the episode bonu how we doing Brian hey Andrew can you hear me yeah we can hear you Hi how are you doing good episode three is ending they just told the purple tribe that they're not they're

3:50:09 Have to go to tribal because Randon just got evacuated so bonu live to see another episode sadly and yeah I want to come in my lunch and while I can discuss the season with you but I'm happy that you mentioned Banu I didn't mind Banu he just got too much content but if they just di it back it wouldn't be as bad well the problem is yeah and someone pointed out in the comments earlier he gets 30 was it 35 confessionals through four episodes episod and Maria has 31 and she makes it to the finale that's a kind and like I understand they're losing all the time so like yeah give him content but like right here he didn't like it could have been just Jeff saying hey we're getting like Ron's gone and then the episode kind of ends I think Bono gets two different confessionals in the last four minutes of this episode and it's like we don't we don't need that the prech is kind of dragged not going to lie but it gets better once Bon leaves oh yeah so I've got one more episode to deal with bonu before it's all done he didn't do any favors as a game

3:51:29 Player either this season no he in this episode he goes to ship wheel Island and he tells Liz and Ben he's like oh yeah Ken's running the entire tribe and she's this that and the other she's like is like ratting out the entire thing and the first thing they do when they get back to their campus is bonu told us that Kenzie's running the show and Kenji still wins the game so like that is a testament to her as a player because she's clocked very early as a thread and somehow survives until the end and wins I wanted to ask you this I'm sorry someone in the in the chat ask you already but what is one band or artist you could name songs like Charlie and Ben did in that scene oh the Spice Girls Spice Girls yeah Spice Girls the Spice Girls even then I don't even think they have a hundred songs but I probably could do that with the Spice Girls I could probably do that with Abba and maybe like Outcast that's about but even then it wouldn't be a hundred songs I could probably do like 40 or 50

3:52:50 But yeah that was that scene was crazy and no one no yeah no one brought it up in the in the chat but like yeah that scene was crazy it started off as a fun wholesome moment and was kind of dragged on forever because we had to get everyone's opinions on what was happening they did it was a nice noname moment that they had in the season and we don't get that without 90 minutes yeah that's true I won't argue that I don't know I just felt like the SC this would not end it's it's very similar to how this episode will not end I've now we've got one minute left and q's giving a confessional I don't understand how they okay credits roll credits we're good we're done with episode three I think it's the perfect time for Survivor like the perfect amount of time like it can be a little long if the season's bad I think but like it's perfect in my opinion as a Survivor fan you agree yeah I don't mind 90 minutes watching it like this though it's not the best yesterday and today have been a lot because not watching 13 90minut episodes and two of those 90minut episodes are actually two hours it can be

3:54:10 A little bit draining but yeah I'm work we're already at 12:30 we're ready to start episode 4 we're about four hours into the stream so like it's going by pretty fast but and I'm excited for season 4 seval I was thinking today all the Seven Seasons they had per Islands good gabone pen a lot of ph's Co following for it blood versus water and dve versus goath all the seven are good in my opinion in myage May Vary on gabone but yeah gabone would be the I would say the outlier there I mean Gabon is definitely a polarizing season hold on I'm GNA starting hold on starting episode 4 at 1229 PM EST all right Gabon is &f this is not the first time I've talked about gabone today but like yeah it's Total Drama Island if it was a real life show it's just a cartoon and it's just bunch of cartoon characters on it and we get a final three of Dr Bob sugar and Susie which is like

3:55:30 Pretty accurate to a cartoon season so I mean I gabone is in my this is kind of spoilers but like whatever gabone is in my top no it's not it's in the 30s for me it's in the it's not it's in the lower it's in the we I'm on 37 in the chat right now we won't be seeing gabone for a little bit but it's definitely not one of my favorites I actually really liked Randy this time around because a lot of the stuff that he was saying it's like yeah I feel like I would feel the same way with these people I as my name says I want Venus to be in 50 but I would be absolutely shocked if Q is not on 50 like I think he a lot Q's the lock yeah Q's is the lock from this season I feel like outside of Q I don't know if there's any like set locks from this season I feel like Q is the closest that we're going to get to a lock in the season and it might be the only person if you don't I mean maybe they do Charlie maybe they do Maria

3:56:51 Maybe they do seeing Kenzie again to try to repeat well no the my thing is I don't think they're going to do winners no I don't I don't I think they're gonna avoid doing winners I hope they avoid doing winners I would love to see Maran Jam or you know I would like to see them I mean I would like to see them play again but for I just I kind of want oh this is Banu telling the tribe that he ratted them out Bon was my winner pick and I regret that ever since the premere sorry to hear that I think my winck was Mariah I mean I think she also does not make it fairly far but she makes it far the bottom she didn't came in with the solid SE tribe solid but like she didn't throw them under the bus like she probably should have at the merch that's fair yeah he's gotta go yeah Tiffany's telling Q he's gotta go yeah of course he's got to go he should have gone the Jess vote bonu sucks he's just not good he's not good and he just ratted all of you out

3:58:11 And now everyone knows the power Dynamic on your tribe it's not fun I know you already talked about this but I think it's here it was when I left earlier do you think jelinsky I know you answered what do you think jalinski had a chance at 50 and what you think about him here on rewatch no J is not playing on 50 that I would say that it's the closest thing to Impossible without actually just saying impossible jiny is not playing 50 but it was a fun one episode character I feel like the fact that they talked about him even at the finale shows that he was he did have make an impact on the season I feel like the fact that people refer to seven to several now is a thing he was fine jalinski was a fine first boot he's a lock I think if there ever was one if there was one but I and I and I've talked about this it's there's not enough there's not first boots to do a first boots like you can't unless you do like three tribes of six and have one with first boots one with Prem mergers and one with one with

3:59:32 Mergers that's the only but like even then I doubt that anyone would really want to watch three watch a tribe of all first boots Ben and Banu I mean Ben I don't think that'd be the craziest to say that Ben could come back but locks yeah locks wise it's q and then everyone else by a long yeah if they were to do a first fot season you can't do it without fresa and she said she's not gonna play again so well and the thing with that would be they would vote her out first at that point because it would be for the ls basically just because they know because it's already happened twice we might as well do it a third time it could be winners versus Runners up that would be even then I don't want like unless they so they would have let's say they do 10 winners 10 Runners ups I don't want any of the winners everyone winners at War because they're all let them be done they it's a potential I think that I would still rather do a

4:00:52 Pre-merge versus post merge they have a tribe of zero vote finalist there's a lot they could pull from and I would love to see but yeah I was going to say how many zero vote finalists are people really begging to see play again Carolyn Jake top my head Carolyn's not zero vote finalist is she I don't I think Caroline got a couple or at least one right no from not mam from 40 oh oh okay I thought you were talking about M yeah Carol you're talking about Carolyn from 44 okay Carolyn from 44 yeah I mean Carolyn is one I don't need Xander back don't need you know who Owen I would be fine yeah who's the one from 42 oh Romeo yeah Romeo I feel like Romeo is a fun character in 42 that's the thing is like a lot of these people in a bubble they're fun but that like do they have legs to do we do people want to see them again and that's the thing is

4:02:13 Like some of them are fun in the season that they're on but we really don't need a two or 3.0 of them and some you know do a lot better the second time around I'm trying to think of an example of someone that's like the second time they played it's like I guess I think I'm good fish who Fishback play is zeroo finalist Fishback is zero fin said I don't think that he'll play again but yeah he'd be he'd be fun I don't think yeah seemed like it was really hard for him yeah that's and that's fair do you think that they're gonna go back to a theme for 50 or they're just going to call it survivor 50 I think they're gonna I think they'll be a theme in the title but I don't think it's going to be like a versus type thing I think it'll just be a Survivor this but I don't think the tribes are going to be split up based off of it if that makes sense if they do like if it were to be like a Legends theme they would run into the game changers problem well one of the game changers problem where like if you don't bring back all legends that hands will be in an uproar you know what I mean yeah people are gonna put it yeah oh we're calling bonu a legend or like Bon first thing that popped

4:03:33 In my head like yeah you would have to C Cast 20 people that would almost be universally looked at as Legends you can't kind of be like oh well this person was a legend because they got rocked out it's like okay cool that doesn't mean much I would love to see Jessica Lewis back like rocked out player but like May yeah that's the kind of thing that they would do though that's what they did with game changers it's like oh yeah this person is a game changer because of this it's like that doesn't make any sense if they if they were to do that with 50 and be like oh yeah Jessica is a legend because she got rocked out it's like that's not really a legend that's just say memorable moment that's a legendary moment not a legendary character they should have they should have had a returning season for the new er just get some of these new er players to cement themselves as Legends in my opinion well I mean Co kind of killed that like they their last rury season was Game Changers and then we get winners at War and if Co doesn't happen I feel like we probably would have had at least two rury seasons since then but because that happened I feel like it you know you kind of just push the reset button and just kind of they could have done it at 40

4:04:53 48 and like the original allar do new er All Stars like might just be me but well I feel like at that point you're your all roads lead to 50 once 41 happens it's like okay if we don't if we don't do a retur for 45 we're just going to wait till 50 because it's sitting right there it's not that years pass when 41 came back so I think that the logic checks out that they lay waited now just because of what happened with the world and then what you know once again you just have to you have winners at War which is like a great ending to a lot of their stories you start over again with a new era after covid you need to let us get attached to certain people like to newer people again so that when 50 comes around you're both wanting these people back and the people that hadn't had a chance to come back since 30 three technically 35 but since 33 and I think that like I said I think the cast will be 10 people post 40 and 10 people post in between 33 and 39 and I think that's a I mean you can you can

4:06:13 David versus Goliath and edge of Extinction by themselves I feel like you can pull a solid 10 but like if you spread it across 33 through 39 I feel like you can get a very solid 10 and you can get a very solid 10 from 41 through 49 I agree I don't need a lot of people back pre like game changers but like I don't need anyone from HHH love Dom Rick Evans but like a I need I want to see a lot of these new era people like play again but I want to see how the old era plays in the new like error game if they can like adapt the game yeah I agree and I mean it's not much of it's the it's the same thing with like 40 years like oh will these old players be able to adapt like adapt to what like all they have to do is the idol is the only thing that's actually different this I was gon to say the fire tokens but everyone that was a new thing everyone had to adapt to that so guess yeah so I feel like and like the only thing that they would actually have to adapt

4:07:34 To is 26 days and no food and even at that case at that point you know they it would still be hard on everyone because everyone's still playing on the same playing field of none of us have food and yes y'all are used to playing for 39 days but y'all had food during the Prem merge during the off Seasons and a machete and all of that so like Welcome to our world and I don't think it'll be that hard to adjust because it's still social strategic at the end of the day they don't really have like as long as you're a good social or strategic player you should be fine yeah about Liz in this season as you know she lied about being a Millionaire on the island not whether or not like I want to ask you do you think her saying she's a millionaire and if she makes FDC in any scenario not necessarily this one but you think that could w a win jury that she's probably losing to most people I think that's a I think that is a smart thing like the fact that cuz usually people with money do get targeted and the fact that she was able to say that she you know had all this money and she was still surviving in the game you know I do think

4:08:54 That is a testament to how well she sold the LIE especially because she was pretty much never the target which is crazy because everyone with money eventually gets targeted everyone with the exception of maybe Mike White I think there's only like one round where Mike White may have been in trouble so I mean that's good on her but I do think that she's swimming up shits creek without a paddle at final tribal especially if she's sitting if she's sitting next to Charlie and Kenzie she probably gets zero votes if she's sitting next to Ben and Charlie she probably get zero votes yeah that she's done like she there's no way Liz wins this season and you know I yeah I can like her all I want but like I'm also not crazy enough to say that and I think that Ben got in her head during the finale where he's like oh yeah like I think you're the biggest set to win the game and I think that's why she said what she said like I would have you know beaten all of yall it's like I know we're not seeing everything at home but I don't think so I know jurors have their own prerogative and what they want to vote for it's just the one thing

4:10:14 That like I don't understand personally my perspective why Maria didn't vote for Charlie because didn't they play the exact same game until Marie got moved out like I want to hear your take I didn't so I don't have a problem with you voting however you like you're GNA vote however you're gonna vote I think that her reasoning in the moment seemed a little weird but I mean I at that final tribal if I was sitting in on that final tribal I would have voted for Kenzie B off how she performed at final tribal I know that Maria's given a couple of different stories and like it doesn't really matter what she says like she voted how she voted but I did feel like in the moment the first the first of the many excuses he gave was kind of weird like the I saw the fire in Kenzie's eyes type thing after and I'm just like oh okay cool I was fine with her voting for Kenzie though like because I mean I know orgs are different and all that but like I've voted for not my number one at the end of games you know it's because I do try to treat it as whoever performs the best at final will normally get my vote I really don't care what they did leading up to it because it's

4:11:34 It's you know you've gotten here now just explain yourself and you'll probably win and I feel Charlie did do a good job of that like he kind of the bed with a couple things but like that happened a lot of the vot flipped from what I remember like at when the reunion theying about the boov's flipping so that's interesting well the other thing is like yeah when Jeff asks you know who changed their vote tonight like who came in thinking they're gon to vote one person and voted the other and I think there were only three people that didn't raise their hand and Maria was one of them which means that she always planned on voting for Kenzie they got in there so you know that's once again that's a little weird but like you know you vote for who you feel did the best and what or you vote for however you vote however you want it was just weird that Maria got so much backlash for it so for 50 I have two questions for you do you think they'll do a live reunion and do you want them to yeah they should they should absolutely stop doing this because these people are in Shock when they lose the game their minds are in Shock their

4:12:54 Bodies are in shock and you get to have Jeff for an hour at oh how does it feel that you lost it's like I don't know where I am right now you know I Charlie is probably the B biggest example of like this kid was in like it was very apparent that he needed time to decompress Mike Turner is another one like this man needs time to De compressed for 50 you have to like you have to do even if you do it the next day just give them some time to decompress and come down from what just happened because I mean the prime example is in Borneo when you know the snakes and rats things happen and after Rich wins everyone comes over and hugs and like yeah fine and Sue tries to hug Kelly and Kelly's not about it's like yeah I wouldn't be about it in that moment either like in that aspect Kell Sue took it a little like I was Kelly I don't care if I don't get your Goot but saying like the vulture thing is a little too far it was oh yeah but and I feel like she was playing for the TV the problem is Kelly is still very much in game mode so everything that you were saying to her she doesn't have time to just be like okay was because of this

4:14:15 And so I like whenever she snubs Sue when Sue tries to hug her it's just like yeah that makes sense because this is like I haven't I just lost a game and you just said this to me how else am I supposed to feel don't they do it with big brother they it's live right like they yeah it's a Al one yeah right after the Winter's announced they talk to everybody they have the prear there and everything yeah so yeah I don't I don't really like that aspect of how they've been doing it so I do hope that they bring back a live finale for 50 or just not do it the same night that like let them you know and because I want the pre mergers back you know some of these pre mergers are a lot of fun it would have been fun to see sefue again yesterday I'm about to go back to work but I want to ask you one more thing off topic and based on like this channel that you're on the NFI take I know that they do a lot of Australian Survivor coverage and I know you only watch hers verus de from what you told me but I definitely would suggest like if you have the time or you want to do it but do watch like some of the seasons if not the Titans versus Rebels the one that just aired was really good but maybe you could like especially

4:15:35 If you're a fresh eye you never watched them before most of them you can do podcast about that potentially it's just an idea but definely I would love to hear your thoughts if you ever do that yeah I have the problem is it doesn't stream anywhere and I really don't want to have to because if I did it from my laptop that means I would have to get up every time and I'm that lazy I don't want to have to get up and like turn to the next thing it would be so much easier to stream somewhere when I know that it was on Paramount for a little bit and they took it off just have the links on there's the Facebook page called the tribe has spoken yeah that's where I watched Survivor South Africa the last the last two seasons that it was on but even then it was like all right I have to get up and turn to the next like after an episode ends I have to scroll down and like okay if I want to if I'm really trying to have a lazy day of just kind of watching I don't want to have to get to every and thankfully you know I'm hoping that they do end up streaming somewhere because I do want to watch survive Australia at one point or another so it might be tough because I don't know how the laws work but that's International show and like to get the streaming to America might be difficult I don't know how all that works but maybe I can get a VPN and find what services it's on over

4:16:55 Overseas and watch it like that I don't know if that's illegal to say probably not who cares I would love them to do like they have enough people to do it like a Philippines type 2.0 like have like three captains I think someone mentioned earlier in the chat like it would be pretty dope if they did especially because Randy got medac this week in M oh they mentioned that last night someone mentioned that last night of I remember I don't remember who the first two but the third person was Courtney Moon I'm like all right you had me until Courtney Moon that's a weird deep cut for a third Captain but you just watched 44 I would love to see MGM Matt from not Matthew where was going to got off the rock I would love to see him play the shoulder mat yeah shoulder mat yeah he was he was a really good character and he made the Strategic move of using the shot in the dark not like defensively to sa himself to like not show his card which I thought was very Innovative and Jim's entire story arc is this Idol that she thinks is real that is not real that comes from Matt so yeah there's a there's a lot to like about some of these medacs you know even Bruce Jonathan or not Jonathan sorry what

4:18:15 Was his name in 42 the first got I don't know Jackson I don't know what his situation medically is but like if he's cleared I would love to see him play in actual like season yeah we're getting tev's backstory now so tein oh I love the when you talked about his father when he made the fire I think that was crazy that's literally what yeah that's literally what's happening right now yeah this fish looks really good I'm also just very hungry so well thank you for having me on this pod I'm gonna on my last break later I'm gonna be in the chat and just all right yeah Brian thank you so much for hopping in man I'll I mean you'll be back later so I won't like say thank you thank you to you yet but yeah thank you for hopping in first guest of the day and yeah we'll talk soon man all right see you later all right we got our first guest out of the way we have Brian so yeah t just had his teev just had his backstory we're not getting much bonu content so far this episode

4:19:35 How far are we into it though oh we're about 25 minutes in this is really flying by like I am I'm really happy that this is flying by as it is I guess we can we can pick up where we left off we're going to go with number 36 number 36 number 36 we have the season all right number 36 we have Survivor Fiji is a season that time I watch it I want it to be higher on my list I really want Fiji to be high on my list G worthy who is the biggest Survivor Fiji person in the community once again I apologize and I you know Earl wins I love that final three you know there are a lot of fun moments at the merge it's dragged down for me one because of the twist two because lcy and Rocky are just the worst people ever they just suck and three the final tribal those people once again you

4:20:55 Want to talk about bitter juries those people were so pissed off that they had a black final 3 is my opinion but those people are so pissed off at dreams cassandre and dream and Earl and it's so uncomfortable to watch because it's Alex who's the one that's the most angry which he's also very drunk it's very obvious that he's drunk it's it will always like Fiji is the season that I want to like more and I just can't because of the messiness of the jury specifically Rocky lcy and Alex I really love the final 3 I think that dreams is a very underrated character and strategist Bon is going off about something I think Earl is one of the greatest winners I think Cassandra is an underrated social player underappreciated social player I think that Yaman is of course fun The Four Horsemen the collapse of the Four Horsemen is a lot of fun but yeah Fiji is I can I can never I can never bring myself to make it go higher and I think it's just because

4:22:15 Of the overly angry people I can't I can't do it okay it's the final episode of bonu guys like we've made it we've made it to the final episode of Banu so we are also four and a half hours in we are on episode four and which we're about halfway through episode 4 and I think I said we probably merge around 2:30 I think we're going to merge around 2:30 I think that I think that checks out once again thank you to everyone in the chat that's shown up today so far it's been a it's been a wild ride it's been a wild ride and I'm glad that Brian was able to hop in and ask a few questions always has the best questions so that's great oh goodness everything that keep saying I need to do I still haven't done though which is bathroom food water and caffeine so I'm thriving I'm thriving

4:23:41 Folks oh like Mar and I hate her haters let's see did I didn't finish oh yeah so hungry do I want to do number 45 no I just did number 36 I just did number 36 I'll wait a bit and that number 35 is going to be a hot take but it's my list I do what I want they there a reward challenge or immunity I think they lost the reward challenge because there's only 30 minutes left in the episode 33 minutes left the episode yeah

4:25:01 I think they just lost War challenge really infus bathroom I should have gone while Brian was here I didn't even think about that I should have just G to the bathroom while Brian was here oh well I'll be joined by someone else soon at some point I haven't had to adjust a lot over the last hour I guess started this one at 12:29 it's one o'clock already good God we're killing it folks we're killing it for those that you know question how am I able to do this like this is this is what it is I don't keep as much track of the time when I'm doing this normally obviously because I have the time staring right in my face I see time elapsing and it's like wow this is so fun but it's very simple to just kind of sit and watch in [Music]

4:26:22 The I'm so hungry I just want food I appreciate that thank you listen to work yeah I honestly appreciate that I trying to keep things as I mean the fact that I have been talking pretty much non-stop for four and a half hours is fun I guess I'm really trying to avoid dead air I'm really trying oh yeah let's go back to that we'll do we'll we'll see if I can do more of my Immaculate grid all right so where were we left we left off Braves and Braves and Giants Nationals and Giants that would be who's Nationals and Giants that's Hunter Strickland Hunter Strickland right he pitched for yeah played catcher for the Nationals Kurt Suzuki play catcher for the BR

4:27:42 Javi Lopez played catcher for the Mariners I'm fairly certain in ki JMA but I'm not gonna no but Beth and Court oh no this just we no I'll I'll wait until someone comes in so that there's someone on camera because yeah I don't like I said dead air I'm trying to avoid it as much as possible but thank you though I appreciate that let's see can't believe I got one wrong all right S no don't apologize to this man Bon is crazy don't go apologize to him please don't apologize to

4:29:05 Him you don't need to take Bonnie to the merge that'd be crazy why would you do that why God all right I can't wait to cut this off oh my goodness also probably have to pack at some point after I'm done this for my trip but that's a that's a tonight tomorrow problem four and a half hours in we've got less than half of the episode left of episode four left so doing good how many are there

4:30:25 Many to how many 2our episodes are there this season let's see I hope it's just the premiere and the finale but let's check [Music] Andrew Survivor how do I do this Survivor 46 episode link the first two episodes of Survivor 46 ran for two hours and then the finale hopefully that's the case so I think the first two episodes are two hours and the finale is two hours okay that's we can make that

4:31:48 Work we can we can definitely make that work What's happen in Hunter wasn't there a whole thing with that no I don't remember there's a lot of mess that happened postseason from this season so we don't know what's rumored inuendo and what is real I know that one was not real but still okay so who do we think is going to be next in here who's to say it could be anyone all right and fies let's see all right I sent that so that's good who what was I doing I was doing something I don't remember what I was doing

4:33:09 Oh okay all right here's number 35 it's a hot take y but Survivor palow Survivor palow has consistantly fallen down my list every time that I have done this Marathon one once the appeal of oong being taken out kind of goes away you really realize that there's really not much else to care about you know the other tribe they're fine cor they're fine I think I mean yeah the first time watching Tom's win is a lot of fun and then every other time it's like wow okay so Tom wins neat like once they've gotten rid of Stephanie it's like yeah of course Tom wins that's not the craziest thing the fact that he gaslights the out of Ian from Final Four until final two I mean it's fine like it's definitely a tactic and it works for him but plow just that was

4:34:29 The it was boring it PL this another very boring season for me you know I really enjoyed plow the first couple of times I watched it and then just for 42 and 42 and now it's just fallen off of a cliff and I can't really I understand that's probably a lot lower than people are going to have it and I respect that obviously we all have opinions but palow is yeah like I said it's my first hot take of this entire thing is plow is not it's not it are have they done the immunity challenge they've got 20 minutes in the episode I know they had a I know they had a challenge I don't know if it was reward for a reward or not maybe that was the immunity challenge I don't know we're getting Mariah content for once so that's interesting no here's the immunity challenge right now with 20 minutes left in the

4:35:50 Episode yeah I guess so but I mean I guess we all know what's going to happen thank God this is we got 20 more minutes left of Banu folks we got 20 more minutes left of Banu so we're getting there and then the season becomes fine when merory starts I would say is when the season becomes fine rash I don't know why it's so itchy right here H Liz wi Cox oh my goodness you're so gorgeous all right so yeah here we go how many people get eliminated right here though is this a double boot no you need back up grabs are both TRS okay so then Banu so actually from Banu going I actually don't know the boot order I couldn't even tell you which ones make the merge I can't tell you all the ones that make the merge I guess and that comes with just watching this season and finishing this season four days before I started the marathon

4:37:11 So I'm this is kind of fresh is to me as far as I don't remember which one of these folks make it or I don't know all of the folks that make it definitely have with special federal agent philli shepher T's gonna sit out of this one let's get it out so Death Match throwback all right here we go next imunity challenge this is the episode that bonu gets voted out thank god and I'm still stone cold sober so I'm thriving as the as the kids say who's sitting out here gem and Maria okay H godes Hunter doing Hunter things yeah that was a big

4:38:35 Jump Hunter I don't I don't mind Hunter I don't mind Hunter it's better than most challenge beasts that have ever existed mainly because he has a likable personality said what I said come on Q stop holding your nose just dive in there we go how do they lose this one who blows it from I'm would assume bonu but know oh goodness yeah my voice is definitely starting to go I think keep on clearing my throat but I don't think it's going to help much good thing I don't have much longer to do this I haven't reached the halfway point of the day yet but I'm like two episodes away from being halfway done so that's fun was

4:39:55 Exhausted okay Wheel in the Sky keeps on turning s 115 okay 11:5 we've got we've got about 15 minutes left in the episode we're about 4 and a 4 45ish into the stream and it's been a fun day so far I'm not totally exhausted yet I know I sound exhausted I'm doing all right doing all right we've had Brian stop in so far I think we had we had Brian on for Edge Of Extinction I think I think we had Brian on for Edge Of Extinction so we'll see who joins us next

4:41:16 And the fact that there hasn't the fact that y'all can't hear the TV is good because the wind is very loud so do we want to do another season no I think I'll leave it alone with PL for now and then I won't do another one until the next episode okay why don't I remember 10 I and I keep forgetting Tim exists now because I mean I guess most of that tribe isn't getting content but yeah I just keep forgetting about Tim is there come on Tim Yeah Tim the goat Jesus Venus that Landing was horrible come on

4:42:38 Tim h this challenge is actually pretty fun no I think it's because I know that Bon is gonna go at the end of all of this I can kind of enjoy myself a little bit more but excuse me that was so rude oh my goodness yeah there we go one more come on oh Q of course Hunter's going underhand of course come on Hunter of course that is insane and I think 10's going to uhoh he's only won once what are you talking

4:44:02 About only two-time winners what are you talking about they're they right they do lose right like this B only survives four episodes right am I am I crazy or I guess T makes it right here then yeah okay all right I was about to say the wheel all right we've got about 10 minutes so Bon is off my screen I have nothing to Cheers I have nothing because I have alcohol I have nothing to Cheers anyone but just know I want to Cheers everyone for getting Bonnie with the

4:45:25 TV but I think is merory next I don't know is merory next or should I start with 18 no it would be one at least one more one more boot because they're at 14 they're at 14 right now right no this they will be at 14 after this okay they will be a 14 after this oh the Wheel in the Sky all right I think after this episode I'm going to post something else on social media we'll see or maybe I'll just wait until we hit the 5 hour mark I'll do that yeah I'll wait till we hit the five hour Mark which is in 14 minutes so that times out very well but is already pouting

4:46:47 And God I thought he won that Amber on yes Amber ones you fool you fool what are you GNA do about Bon your vot's ass out that's not that hard he's stalking them it's so weird this man is so weird he's the worst I can I can see why people find him funny though cuz he's so either it's an act or he's just that not self-aware who's to say I think it's an act so is taking down treemill looking for the idol Jeff he needs Jeff to help him he needs Jeff help to help him get a the idol

4:48:16 This is so goofy no one's helping you man you're done you're done all right we're about 12 minutes until we're at 5 hours we are at [Music] that God this episode just won't end yep you can't you can't do anything man all right my belly is itching for some reason who are you talking to he's losted or he's acting I don't buy it just go to tribal

4:49:36 Please get off your get off your knees man get off your knees this is so [Music] bad yeah Tiff ain't tell no Tiff ain't taking this are you serious yeah I'm Gonna Write Your Name tonight you suck yeah you can't trust him Ratt at you guys out have a hug I'm so glad he didn't find an idol that would have just that would have sucked the air the rest of the Prem merge if he finds an idol and survives it would just and now he's talking to himself in both first and third person thanks to the island this isn't lost

4:51:01 Fam all right nine minutes until we are at the five hour mark and I have done jack today but it's all right it's all right we're almost at that Finish Line she's like a [Music] rain see n minutes can you can you hear the sir yeah probably can hear the [Music] sir don't know what that's all about I think this is a unan right I'm fairly certain it's a unan it'd be insane if this wasn't a unan I everywhere I

4:52:27 Everywhere how did it go I told on my entire tribe I said yes his motive was he's a crazy person you didn't get an actual answer because this man oh God yes he was and the crazy thing is the three of them survived long enough in the merge despite having that big old Target on them so good on them good on them she's like a [Music] r the sixth day the moment it clicked and I spilled the beans to my tribemates yeah it just even that the fact you revealed and then you went and told your T tribe that you revealed is crazy

4:53:47 Banu is going home tonight yeah you gotta go no B is not happening you don't have anything yes you screwed up this game big time you are correct you are correct I think I froze there I don't know why are you here I think his backstory is real I have no reason to doubt that I think his backstory is real Jeff can you tell me what poverty is like in India it's like

4:55:07 No man do I want to do season no I'll wait until oh I till this episode's done we're almost done we got three minutes we' got three minutes left oh did they give him the treatment or did they actually vote why am I so itchy yes it's ending for you please go home you giving this man hope you

4:56:45 And I guess this is kind of a wholesome moment let him have his moment in the Sun or before he off wait yeah they didn't even that's insane yeah they gave him the Barner treatment ew and they hugged oh God he's gone y'all he's gone Bon is gone he's gone I'm so excited all right that is the end of episode four we've got the it's called Don't Touch the oven we've got episode five coming up we're going into hour five nothing to say there going hour five going

4:58:05 On Survivor who are J and all right I am abs like I'm going to make a sandwich while I'm here so that like I'm still present but yeah I need to eat something so next episode Bon had more Bon had more confessionals than oh my gosh it was brought up earlier he had more confessionals than Maria and Maria makes the finale of this but yeah he has more confessionals than a lot of people and it's so crazy but he's gone now he's gone so now the season can actually start actually okay so episode five we are starting at 134 we're stting at 134 starting episode five at

4:59:26 134 PM EST and the wind is still very loud Marcus I know that you live the town over from me is the wind as loud over there as it is here right now if you hear me say this because it's very loud over here across the bridge all right so we are officially in hour five so I'll go ahead and post that L on Twitter officially in hour oh in hour five the full season live stream bonu is gone stream it's barely Wendy okay that's crazy which is yeah you're like 10 minutes away from me and the wind isn't that crazy over there

5:00:51 Let's see where's the link where's the link to this NFI take oh there it is share copy paste 46 about 79 not halfway done yet but close send oh all right s Ru scheduling issues came for me either be weekend of August 9 or AUST 16th all right we've got Phil you're right on time Bono just left so we're good I was actually it's funny that timed out so well because I was thinking to myself I'll show up

5:02:11 Right when the season begins which is immediately episod five episode five just starts bonu is gone it's a happy day here how we doing I'm doing good man I was actually just watching Australian Survivor 2017 for my patrons I just got through the third episode of that I've never watched any of the Australian Survivor Seasons so I started putting that out on patreon I got through the first one now I'm working my way through the second one and it's an undertaking that's for sure not as much of an undertaking as what you're doing but it's an undertaking the so and people brought this up earlier in the chat about Australian Survivor the episode length and the amount of episodes like I enjoy I watched Heroes versus Villains and I enjoyed it is a lot though I think that Survivor South Africa was like a happy little medium there but I do want to tackle Australia at one point what I'm going to try to do is after y'all are finished doing it kind of watch and then watch you guys' recap afterwards as if I'm watching it live to make it a little easier what were your thoughts on 46 I love 46 I think 46 is a great season I'd even go as far as to say that the only

5:03:31 Episode I don't like is bonu part two I understand that people get annoyed with bonu early on but had bonu gone out where randing gets Medevac I think 46 is pretty much a perfect season because the post merge it's like Micronesia levels of insanity in the post merge so for me it's I think 46 is it's between that and 43 in my opinion I know that's a lot of people don't agree with that but I like that and 43 the most out of the new era I want to give both a rewatch before I say which one I definitively like more because I do think gabler's win was just so unbelievably shocking that moment makes me like a season more because I love shocking moments but I don't know on a rewatch if it'll be as satisfying as it was with me screaming in my living room going holy how did he just win that game I was at a watch party for it and that place the air got sucked out of it like they could not believe that it happened and like it was I'm not one of these 43 hater like I would say 42 and 45 are my favorite of the of the new era but 43 was fine it was it was fine I think there was a lot going for it and 46 gets the I

5:04:51 Would say it gets the Vanuatu treatment of like people hated for some reason even though like 46 especially once Banu goes you can compare it to Batu when the four generic white guys go home pre-merge whose names I always forget there are two Johns a Brooke and a j P John Brady and Brady is the other and Brady's actually great Brady's the one who climbs the pole at the beginning covered in big fat or whatever but then he just ends up not in the fat five and so he goes home but it's the same thing with this where like once you get rid of you remove the bonu of it all and all of a sudden you get some very compelling characters and you get the fun gameplay once the merge hits you know and the fact that Kenzie is clocked as a threat basically in episode three and that Trio is looked at as dominant mainly in episode three and they are still able to survive through all of all the craziness for the most part I think is a it's a fun story arc it's very similar I know that people won't like this comparison but Eric's clocked is a threat pretty early on in 41 and you know to the point where her tribe is trying to actively throw

5:06:11 Challenges to get rid of her and she survives so you know I know it's not the exact same but I feel like there is a fun little comparison there where are you at in your actual rewatch now so we just finished so we just did Fiji so we're gonna do China again I had my wife do China first to get her kind of into the show and she's like what's your favorite season I said China so we sat down we watched China but now that she's actually watched the game develop and real time I'm like we should watch China again because now you understand that Idols aren't this insane thing because she's watched all the new era Seasons with me so she knows the insanity of idol so she's getting to watch the game develop now and when we had first watched it she had watched lucky for her only the end of season 39 and then China so those were the only two things that she had seen and then she watched winners at War so she didn't really have a basis for anything when we watched China the first time and I also want to see how she ends up feeling with everything fresh in her mind because right now Terry Deets is Far and Away her favorite character like no questions asked she like would she's like over here like Terry's the greatest like every time we get to a new character I'm like you like Yao man more no you like Earl more no you like what about James because she loved James the first time and she like I don't remember really it's like okay we gotta watch James again gotta see how you feel about James but yeah so

5:07:32 So we're up to we're up to Fiji we're gonna watch China again and then I mean we're into the golden the gold oh yeah you're the good old days so I did want to ask you about Fiji then because last time we talked you were just ready to start Fiji yeah or maybe already I think we'd watched like an episode or two we had just kind of gotten into it but yeah I so I been updating my I've been showing my list as it in the chat throughout the day so I had Fiji at 36 okay of 45 seasons and I think it's the season that I want to like more every time I watch it and I just can't because of the twist because Rocky and Ley are just human beings yeah and because the final tribal those people are so unnecessarily pissed off especially Alex and I yeah because we texted about Alex because you really like yeah I really liked Alex until that moment and it's just like why is this man so it's very clear he's drunk but like that shouldn't that excuse is so it's bad doesn't give you permission to be a dick to these people yeah did you watch Wait so what was your lowest ranked season because I'm looking at your comment over here you have I the first one I see

5:08:52 Is 43 you have ranked 4 what did you 4 45 is Thailand 44 is island of the idols okay and then 43 Nicaragua 42 Redemption Island I like island of the idols more than most people I actually don't think island of the idols is a terrible season it just has a really uncomfortable storyline throughout yes so I know pre-merge island of the edles is a lot of fun I really like the pre merge of island of the idol when the merge hits the air just kind of gets sucked out of the and it doesn't help that it's a double episode and so it just kind of drags forever so that when it's done I don't care about anything else that happens afterwards I'm sure it's great like I do know there's fun gameplay that happens after it's done but I'm so checked out at it after it's like when Missy has her whole thing it's like oh yeah Jeff you didn't bring up the whole black woman thing it's like Missy shut up like I don't I don't want to hear this right now Jamal just got married yeah I saw I saw yeah so good for Jamal give a quick shout out to Jamal I always liked I always really like Jamal I haven't talked to him in a long time but after his season aired he came on our podcast a couple times and like Jamal's Jamal is such a fun person to talk not just Survivor with but just like everything with he really is

5:10:12 And actually that's the problem I kind of have with 39 is I really like a lot of people from that cast I really do like Tommy Jason Nora I saw Nora at FIU when they did the watch party during season 46 Nora was there Troy Zam was there all of that and like dude Nora is just so amazing she is so much fun to talk to she's got so many ideas and I think the thing with Nora is like she's always kind of looking out for everybody else and it you can feel that when you talk to her in person and then you can see it when you watch her game again I love Janet carbon she was also at the FIU event so it's just like one of those things where it's hard for me to properly rank the seasons as I start to know the people which I think is why it's easier like for me with Fiji I met Yao man but I met Yao man in a bar in LA like I talked to him for five seconds there was nothing more to it like he's a really nice guy but I don't know Yao man so I can still rank pretty damn low but when I get Seasons it's hard I've met four different people from Island of the idols they were all very sweet they were all really nice me and Dean sat there and did shots and like I don't even think he knew where he was at that point but they were they were all great people and I like I just made it my mission to not talk

5:11:32 About because players in general I try to avoid bringing up the show to them because I'm sure that probably happens to them a lot I just try to talk about anything else but especially with the 39ers it's like okay I feel like you probably get a lot of questions about a lot of stuff that happened out there and I'm not trying to be that guy to just be like oh yeah so like how do you feel and instead you know I treat them like so I've met Nora Elaine Dean elae is great have you met Lauren Beck I met Lauren Ashley Beck at the 41 Premiere Chelsea Walker also dude like Chelsea Walker is such a great I love Chelsea Walker and I saw her at the premiere for That season and then I like talked to her a couple times after that and like Chelsea is such a big fan of Survivor it's such a shame that we don't get more of her because Chelsea is just she was she was stud casting Choice man you could tell that and that's I've talked about this a lot in the 41 through 46 era like one of the complaints is they only cast super fans now it's like well that actually started pre 40 where they were they've slowly started to throw a lot more super fans in it I would say probably around 35 so it's not a

5:12:52 New thing but yeah you get there is a part there's a point in Survivor history where you can start to tell these are no longer recruits and will always go back to James in China referring to the idol as the immunization thing because in that moment it's like okay yeah this man clearly does not know anything about this show but it's all right because he's a fun character yeah Chelsea Walker was amazing I feel like most of the pre merge people at island of the idols were a lot of fun yeah and it just kind of sucks the way that the everything is handled in the merge episode like it's just it's not fun watching it as Kelly situation you feel bad for Dan because Dan gets back and she's like yeah Dan these two were saying all this stuff and he was so convinced those two would never say anything like that about like talking about Missy and Elizabeth that you feel for him in the moment because it feels like they drag drug his name through the mud for something you know the tricky part with under the idols and I want to say anything that's going to put my foot in my mouth but I'll plug our cast away cuz that was back we were able to do a lot of postgame tell alls that was back

5:14:12 Before like Jeff had his podcast and stuff so we did a lot we would ask people about the dance situation go listen to what they say about the dance situation it like they publicly State how they feel about the dance situation I think the dance situation was handled absolutely horribly by everybody across the line I'm gonna tell you what I'm sure you realized this as you watched it I think during the 30s CBS and Survivor learned a lot about what they get away with and what they couldn't and I think their handling of the Zeke Varner situation was terrible and I think their handling of the Dan situation was terrible and I want to be honest with you like they never came out really aggressively against Dan and the way they came out against really they came out more in support of Zeke than against Varner because they did understand that like you know Varner was obviously going through a mental health crisis after that whole moment too and they don't want anybody to kill themselves or die or have any like anything like that happened but they didn't come out hard against Dan at all and I know Dan like I think he has a TV show or something coming out soon I know he's still a producer in Hollywood I think they handled that so poorly that they were almost like we can't push this too hard because we could potentially get sued and potentially have to settle and we don't want to do that yeah I know what interviews you're talking about so and yeah I don't want to put my foot in my mouth either but like I get and that's why I said like as a

5:15:33 Whole the situation was just handled so poorly to the point where 40 the one winner that if you're going to bring back all you know you bring back Richard Hatch and the only reason that they don't is because now it's an Optics thing because we just had this happen so we want to avoid anything that might make us look bad so we're not gonna do this and I mean I've talked I mean I've talked a lot about Allstars and you know how that scene particularly plays out but I think that they were just really trying to save face in a situation that like I don't know I feel like no one would have thought it would been problematic for Richard to play on 40 I don't think there would yeah there would be one or two people and like who cares but I feel like the large majority of people wanted him back and they try to overcompensate and it's frustrating yeah and I'm sorry I'm taking away from you rewatching the good part of but what I was going to say is you had mentioned earlier and I think it's a nice tie in you had mentioned earlier how you know this is this season's kind of getting the vanatu treatment people really loved it and they really hated it and you know whatever like or people were just hating it to hate it and I think a lot of that goes

5:16:53 To like you know with the Richard decision- making and stuff like that I mean Richard Hatch is gonna be on you know he's coming up yeah he's coming up on House of villain I'll let you say it not me but yeah he's coming up on House of Villains like we all know that Richard Hatch is back on our TVs and that he's not you know Persona nrata here so the thing is though I do feel and I really have felt this during 46 and I felt this in the post the aftermath of everything I don't know if it's because Elon Musk just made it where things don't fall off of Twitter or X or whatever the hell you want to call it more frequently but I saw more hate and disgust this season than I've seen a long time and there's always been people who get unnecessary hate from the game like it's just it happens I remember us doing an interview with Sarah Len Post 40 and she was talking about like I'm literally defending myself to this creature on the internet instead of spending time with my child and it's like that's where you got to like think about your priorities and what you want to do and I just feel like there has become like and look I understand that I just am a voice in the community I understand that the fans of the show are the reason why we're even able to do this thing so I don't I know that this is like a it is a smaller minority it's not a majority but it's just the Twitter sphere specifically there's such a sense of entitlement from so many people in that group and it really is it's alarming in so many ways and you see the real effects

5:18:13 It's having on people and I remember when Kenzie was going through her stuff after this season talking about stop showing up at my salon and people are commenting don't go on TV if you don't want to become famous like I don't know how much you can curse on here but I want to drop the f bomb right now because it's like you are a monster if that's how you think like that you are a monster you are intruding on somebody's personal life they are not your puppet or your toy or your pet because they went onto reality TV and it's really awful the way some people and unfortunately they're so vocal and they'll build up their followings on Twitter more than we have because they tweet all the time about the stuff and they know what buttons to push because they know that other Twitter followers are going to retweet them and like it and do all that and I just get disheartened when players start to jump in along all that stuff that's what bothers me and nobody's jumped in against Kenzie in that way but I do get bothered yeah I know I know players and takes and stuff yeah it frustrates me because it's like you've been through it you know it stop bullying like crazy you know so I don't know I just that's a side that's a side note that I just feel 46 is always going to be a little tarnished by that because the internet Twitter X whatever has hit this level of like what in the world is going on like what are we

5:19:33 Talking about what are we doing and you know maybe some of my fans are on there and they're some of the people posting this stuff but I'm so negative about that stuff and I'm always so like hateful towards those people that I doubt they're listening to me very much and we had a we when we did Kagan there was there's a little bit of that in the chat and we kind of put the kbot on it but what I was going to say is I brought this up during 41 how the internet you know social media has existed probably since in the form that is now probably since like car and a little bit earlier and like you just said I didn't really start to realize how crazy these fans were until 41 on and it's not like the internet didn't exist before 41 but that's when they felt like they got very vocal about a lot of stuff and it I keep comparing them to Star Wars fans because Star Wars fans at a certain point just kind of lost their colle and started bullying cast members and everything yeah and I feel it's the exact same thing with Survivor fans where they have become so they gatekeep to the point where it just becomes annoying to be a part of that Community you know I have to keep saying some Survivor fans and I really try to avoid saying all because I know it's not

5:20:53 All it's just they're the vocal minority and it's you know the stuff with the Maria like do I am I confused why she voted the way she did yeah cool that's where it that's where I leave it though yeah I had like I met Maria at Ron Clark's event and I met a lot I met most of the casts at Ron Clark's some of them will remember me some of them will have no idea like Maria is a perfectly nice person I'm just confused why she voted for Charlie and I wanted to know and I think I do think I was a little hard on her during the during my finale recap and I wish I wasn't and then it's funny because then I go see some of the things that are posted on the internet I'm like dude I am I am himself like what are you talking about I've never been nicer like what are you what are you talking about but I just feel like it really is it really is uncomfortable and here's one thing I'll bring up as an example I went to the Ron Clark event probably the best Survivor event I've ever been to sorry Bryce and wend I love Bryce and wend I really do their parties are absolutely incredible but the Ron Clark event was different because it was at his it was at his place and like there was so much going on so well put together the drinks were free sorry Bryson pay for drinks at your thing the drinks were free the event was free like it was crazy and it was massive and

5:22:13 I'm going around and I didn't get to talk to everybody you know what I mean like I talked to Ben because I knew Ben I talked to Kenzie she was wonderful I talked to Maria for a little bit Brandon donlin that's where I really felt like I started to bond more with Brandon donlin Kelly was there Mama C was I mean it was a who's who in the Survivor Community T-bird was there like it was everybody I talked to a couple people and it was fun and the thing is then I get back and I start seeing on the internet people being like I was at this event and so and so was an and it's like maybe you're an like maybe you are the problem maybe it's not that player who's the problem maybe you are the problem and you need to do some introspection because also when you go to one of these events like I've gotten pretty close with Ben we did the tell all with Ben I've seen Ben in person numerous times I messaged him today because he's all excited Eddie Van Halen and him have the same size hands like I talk to Ben a lot when you go to this event I see Ben I say hi to Ben and Ben's like hey man great to see you so happy you're up here and then somebody will and he'll like I remember at this moment he was like hey you guys listen to The Specialist you should whatever and he's like all right man I'll talk to you later I got to go talk to some of the fans he's busy like he you have to bounce around you're not going to get undivided attention from these people in that way the only person I've ever seen

5:23:33 Do it is gabler I don't know how the hell gabler does it but he will give the undivided attention where he's got a line lined up for him out the door because he's really having a full conversation some people can do it some people can't Adam Klein's really good about it and it's not a negative if you can't do it a lot of these players want to make sure every fan gets the moment to interact with them that they want that might mean your interaction with them is a little bit shorter than you expected it happens to me all the time and I feel like I'm pretty well known in this community it happens to me all the time and you don't hold it against people so when I come back and I see that I'm like you went to an event thrown by Survivor players full of Survivor players that is an absolutely amazing time and the thing you posted online about that event was this person was an or this person wouldn't talk to me or this person seemed whatever if that's what your takeaway is stop going to the events because you're not a very fun sorry I have to I have to blow off the steam in those ways because that's where I think 46 gets way more hate than it deserves everybody on the cast they get way more hate than they deserve when it didn't help that post game you know coming off 44 and 45 who were pretty Kum by ey with each other they started you know they started turning on each other and then they brought it onto social media and then the people that already don't like either certain players

5:24:54 Or the season as a whole are like all right this it's our time to shine it's like one it comes off as what's the opposite of pandering or what's a it seems like you're trying to clout chase by like oh yeah vus I'm with you Venus like let's go get them together it's like okay she's not going to sleep with you dude like get over it becomes very like I said I know I've used this phrase a lot over the last five six days Star Wars fans it's what it is and it's so you're never going to appease everyone but at a certain point you just kind of need to shut the up just shut the up it's I'm sorry that I'm sorry that Xander didn't win I'm sorry that you know Jonathan didn't make it to the finale I'm sorry that Charlie didn't get a vote for Maria at the end of the game please don't go attack this woman online because she didn't vote for your favorite person because that's weird it's just a weird thing to do I'm not going to message Aaron Rogers for throwing a pick during the NFC Championship Game even though I really want to no Jordan love it was Jordan love this year thank you I was say but you should you should message Aaron Rogers

5:26:14 Aaron Rogers is fair game right yeah but it's the same I've been listening to your show since 20 maybe 2019 but and you mentioned like yeah you try to you don't you never really go too extreme with a lot of stuff and I do agree that I've never felt like you were going full on dick mode or anything me and you have talked about this off camera and I'm going to see if you can just read between the lines when y'all were doing discussing all the winners and you know it was usually a panel of three yeah and there was a third and I'm just like okay it even then I'm just like I'm not like obviously they feel like I'm not going to message like oh get rid of this guy but you know things happened afterwards yeah and I mean like you know you know what the thing I will say is and like I know who you're talking about and I don't feel I have a bad relationship there by any means but I could totally understand where you're coming from I do feel like bringing on guests sometimes gets us in trouble a little bit depending on who it is I know our I mean we had we had Fair playay on during 46 and I know

5:27:34 That like people were so PO he was so polarizing which is exactly what Johnny he always is polarizing but the one thing I will point out is like I don't like to talk I try not to talk because also like you never know what happened the first time right and so I my best example and I haven't seen her in years now because I don't live in California anymore but my best example is the first time I met Hannah Shapiro we got off to the worst start of all time I said something I mean we at like a Survivor event so were're drinking whatever and I said something that personally I feel she just took the wrong way because we're really good now like we're really good now and I remember the first time I met her we had this whole thing and I was like oh my God she's like really getting mad at me and that's not what I meant at all I was talking about like the online reaction to her and she felt that I was I was negging her you know like I was essentially just going at her and being like Oh like you know whatever and I wasn't doing that I was more saying like no the internet was doing that I understand where you're coming from because they don't know what it was like for to sit out there but anyway so the next time I run into her we again horrible footing by the end of that night me and her are on the same Survivor Flip Cup team and we're the last two people remaining and we're having the time of our lives and then I see Hannah at more events

5:28:54 And stuff like that we're having a great time because it was a misunderstanding it was something where in the moment it just it came out wrong or it sounded weird or whatever it was and the reason I tell this story is because after I meet Hannah that first time I have a podcast and Hannah has her social media presence Hannah could go out onto her social media presence and be like this podcaster is an and I could go on a social media and say I hate Hannah Shapiro I don't know how any of you like her but the thing is the first time you meet somebody in a situation especially when you're talking to somebody who's like a pseudo celebrity or whatever it is or somebody you know me I might have just felt too comfortable in the community I know Adam was definitely there and Adam's a winner of Hannah's season like I know that they're close so I feel like I can say whatever and sometimes things just go wrong and you should try to give people a second chance in more instances than not because if I would went on the internet and ripped her to shreds there's no reason to there's no reason to there's no benefit from that and I feel like that's what the community is doing now they're getting their one chance to meet some people tell me who your favorite person you met at the Ron Clark event was don't tell me who your least favorite is because your favorite that's the thing that's exciting like that's what people want to hear about and yeah that's a long way of saying don't just don't be so knee-jerk with this it's so unnecessary so it's and we had somebody from 47 they were they were under an alias in here

5:30:14 Earlier and they were talking about fantasy answer is it is it is the fantasy answer I gotta figure out who that is I think I have a theory as to who the fantasy answer is he was in our comments yesterday will and I were doing a an episode about the Traders and adding one night werewolf roles to it and he was in there so yeah I think I think I think I'm figuring out who the fantasy answer is so we'll see but he like hopped in when we were talking about negative internet folks and he was like I can't wait to you know deal with them on my and I was like that's you know what the re so Hannah Shapiro is my alltime cber crush Liz wiox after this season I loved her so much because of everything that she was doing online like with going after trolls and everything and like yes it's I feel like if you have the mental capacity to do that by all means do like I have really bad in I had really bad in pulse control in my 20s so like I would if someone attacked me I would say very rude things afterwards and I felt bad about it so I don't do that anymore but watching Liz do it's like I think I'm in love with you I didn't say it like that but it's true and so you know this person says yeah I can't wait to do it I'm like yeah soon as soon as you can tell everyone who you are

5:31:34 I will go follow and we will you know we'll see how that goes text me I have a theory I have a theory and I'm sure the person's not in here anymore and I'm not going to say who it is because I'm not gonna say a name because I don't want to get anybody in trouble absolutely but I'll give I'll give my only hint here and I'm gonna look I'm looking at the cast right now so give me a second because we still are missing one person unless this is the missing person my theory is simply South Pacific that's my theory everybody can take from that what they want but that's my theory and don't try to figure it out live Drew you can text me no I'm ping the too so I can like look at it yeah if you want to text me afterwards to be like huh what do you mean by that South Pacific is my theory so if the fantasy answer is in here if you come back somehow we got to get the fantasy answer to live listen to five hours 32 minutes and 10 seconds in I believe South Pacific is my answer so but anyway so anyway yeah I'm still think you're crazy for doing this I think you're nuts I don't know how you've done this I got to run I got to run in a couple minutes I can't believe thank you Phil I'm going to tag all of your stuff tonight but thank you so much for taking the time to do this when I do this again in a couple years I hope that you'll be able to join me for that as well two years from now you're gonna

5:32:54 Watch every season in 50 days yeah hopefully hope hopefully my God man but Phil thanks so much for stopping in I will text you when I figure out what your talking about I don't want to be any more specific than that I want anybody get in trouble but I that's just my theory here and yeah I appreciate you doing this man and thanks for reaching out I'm glad I did the Cook Islands episode with you I'm glad we just had this chat I feel like it's always fun to jump in and just talk about this stuff and like I know you're somebody who just loves the Survivor Community you love all that and to answer your question man because I never did answer your Fiji question I have a 12 out of 15 right now 12 out of 15 so the three below it I would assume would be all stars Thailand and you're not going to get the other one I think no actually Borneo I'm over Borneo done with Borneo I'm a I'm a Survivor old school purist I love the old school stuff but you know what man the first movie that ever had talking was the jazz singer and it's not that good first movie with color I don't even know what it was it's not the Wizard of Oz even though people try to say it is it's not the wizard of odds but the first movie with color probably wasn't that good I don't care if you're the first you got to stand the test of time and I understand it was a cultural moment and it is massive and I understand the significance trust me

5:34:14 I probably understand it more than most because I've talked about this stuff for so many years now but I'm just over Borneo it does not do it for me I think the reason that borne will always is because whenever I do the rewatch again it's always so fun to start at the beginning that by the time I get to the Australian Outback I lose a lot of those Nostalgia goggles at that point like it's see mine starts with Australia okay see the only reason I even became a rugby coach player is because Australian Outback inspired me to go to Australia where I learned how to play and I can't so I've always held that above Borneo Australia's in like my 20s now like it's he drags forever and once Jerry goes home that it's just kind of boring yeah it's just kind of boring at that point well at least with Borneo I just feel like it goes by so quickly there's no time to get bored they don't can I say this about the Borneo cast and I feel like this is probably an unpopular opinion oh boy I think because there's really not much gameplay in Borneo the cast of Borneo now is kind of boring in my opinion no and I understand people will say oh it's the first one they're iconic people love them they're so great

5:35:35 Yeah I'm not saying that they're not an iconic group the gameplay though yeah it's there's no gameplay and so for me it makes it harder like to sit down and be like okay wow this is like so amazing like Rudy's great rich is great love Greg bus love Gretchen BB and underrated early boot but like aside from that like Colleen's great you know Kelly she's great she's great as like a side character yeah Jenna Lewis side character you know Sue snakes and rat will always live on you know throughout the test of time someone asked me about this earlier do I want them to bring back live finales for 50 it's like yes and I think the prim even you even if you look past before 41 the Borneo thing Sue has her speech and then Rich wins and Sue tries to hug Kelly because in that moment the game's over for both of them but no the game is over for you sue the game is not over for Kelly and you just sat here and said all the stuff to her why would she ever hug you in this moment yeah it's the same thing with this where you need time to decompress even if you do it the next day yeah I totally agree yeah you need the time to decompress for sure and yeah I mean again me saying that the Borneo cast is boring people are gonna be like what the hell but I do feel like if you're talking about Borneo if you watch these in order

5:36:55 The Borneo cast of the first four cast is the one people are going to talk about the least now if they're watching for the first time they are going to talk about it the least if they're watching it now for the first time the people they will talk about will be Sue and will be hatch because hatch won other than that like Colleen and Greg unless you were there for it unless you like understand their significance in the Survivor Community it doesn't hit as hard it really doesn't Jervis comes across as an most of the Season like I think nervis is very funny in blood versus water but on that season he doesn't come across grade and the reason you're talking about Rudy is because of the he says and you can't believe it in 2024 but you then get to season two and you get to season three and you get to season four people are talking about Boston Rob and Kathy and vpia and that's just more cases and then you get in the big Tom Lex Ethan Kelly Goldsmith Brandon Quinton and then obviously with Australia you talk about the entire cast it feels like for me if you if you were to introduce somebody to Survivor now for the first time you started them with Borneo and they move on to Australian Outback they are going to forget most of Borneo within minutes absolutely no I I do agree with you in and that aspect and I feel like at some point I might lose the Nostalgia goggles with Borneo it hasn't gone away yet which is

5:38:16 Insane because it was Australia that always resonated with me more but like you mentioned this and we' both talked about this before and I know you said you have to go so like yeah I know we keep going down these tangents so we'll save it for next time we'll do it like we'll do we'll save ask go ahead ask away and then I will give a short answer and I'll boot out of here sorry for my whistle there I got a crack in between my teeth so you know if you had to name three people in the first 10 seasons that really got it who would they be what do you mean by got it like just got this game was got what the game was yes it's hatch it's Cino God I want to say a woman because now I sound like an however yeah I'm gonna go Chris dhy yeah it's are the same three you would say yeah those are the exact same three that I would say when I heard because you have said something like that before and I'm like holy I think I love this guy because I have said that for years is the first three people that understood what the game was all about and two of them won and one of them you know would have won would have won changed the entire landscape of the game though by the way they played yeah all right Phil go live your life I want

5:39:36 To do my thing good luck enjoy the rest of your watch hopefully other people pop in if you figure so you shoot me a text on person who was the first one Brian I had him one for 38 for Ed Extinction that's an unlucky person right there but all right well yeah we'll talk soon shoot me a text when you think you figured it out later man all right bye Phil of the Specialists so now we've had two guests let's see I haven't done an update in a while so is this trivia are they doing trivia no that's boring oh they're doing the they're doing the emblem the emblem challenge anyway we are 41 minutes into the episode let's see here we are 540 and to the stream we are let's go to season let's go 34 all right so number

5:41:00 34 we've got this all right number 34 we've got Survivor gabone we've talked about it a lot today somehow we end up going on like three different gabone tangents gabone is a cartoon gabone is Total Drama Island gabone is just a bunch of crazy people doing crazy things most of them don't really understand how to play Survivor and it makes it so entertaining and I understand that people like to put gabone on some weird pedestal and you know that's all good with me for me gabon's still not the best you know once you get past the cartoonish nature of most of the people in the cast it's just okay yeah this is it isn't Fun it isn't Fun in that aspect it's fun in the ENT as far as entertainment yes so yeah gabone number 34 once again thank you to Phil and Brian so far for stopping in today we are over halfway done with oh by the way the purple tribe finally won immunity so there's

5:42:20 That I think we're going to merory next right if I'm not mistaken I think we might be going to merory all right I am finally going to use the bathroom and grab Foods [Music] so let's just put that on the screen it's fine be back shortly I'm GNA put that on the screen so that everyone can see it all right e

5:43:41 People all right we are back we're going to make s a sandwich [Applause] Redemption Island that is Season 22 Season 22 seon go put that there go

5:45:02 Grab plate H purle finally won a challenge I think I think Jim goes home here I think does Jim go home here guess we'll find out let's find out we sure are getting a lot of gym content so I'm assuming that means that she's the one that goes home here I don't think it's I actually don't remember where Tim goes home so I can't actually say 10 my Doppelganger finally eating something y finally taking care of

5:46:22 [Music] myself all right where's my knife that's not a knife Gem's looking for an idol or something happening here okay so did she find something why don't I remember any of this and why do you weirdos hate this season so much y'all we're almost we're almost at the six hour Mark we're almost there we've we doing quite a ride so far today but still not halfway done though we're still not even close to being half or we're close to being halfway done why is it

5:47:42 So [Music] windy okay so there's sandwich this turkey his hand I don't know I don't know as Rudy botch might say I don't know all right there's that be out of catch up y'all no all right it's fine go do this and we go this my sandwiches are done I can put the stuff back all right I'll be right back

5:49:14 All right all right there we go my glasses there they are all right and we're back at them I think they're ready to go to tribal and they got about 14 minutes left in the episode so goodness Happ why is it so windy so I think Jim goes home it's either Jim or Tim

5:50:41 Al I feel like Tim hasn't had like any confessionals once I'm finish this I'll update the list again we're at 34 so get to 33 next when does t go home T make the merge I don't remember this all

5:52:28 So Jim's gonna go home so then when do Tim go I don't know I don't know when it's going to happen what's did I already exit out of the tab I did oh well hm also is merory next or this is the end of episode five or we got 10 minutes left in episode five is mer toy next I don't know

5:54:16 All right I'm Stu I'm done being rude and eating okay and we're back we're heading into hour six we're heading into episode six this is flowing by very fast I'm I got to say I keep saying it but have to reiterate [Music] mute for a second all right we'll go to number 35 number 35

5:55:43 Now no oh no we already did 35 is a 34 so we need to be on 33 Okay number 33 number 33 we've got Survivor Guatemala The Forgotten season of Survivor because Survivor continues to try to bury it for some reason nothing really problematic happens it's just it's just a season that happens I can sit here and tell you I don't remember most people from the Prem merge I remember what they look like and I remember their occupations remember Brian and it's about it gual is just it's it is Guatemala is just Guatemala it's very boring season but nothing that makes it super boring that you can't watch it there's nothing too exciting that's like oh man I mean we get the introduction of the idol in its first form we get some fun villains like Jud and Jamie and Stephanie

5:57:04 I feel like anyone that gave it a chance they would say okay that's a fine season and it is it's a fine season I don't even have much to say about Guatemala I don't even know how long the Guatemala episode was that we did it couldn't have been long right let's go back time and we'll see [Music] oh kawh Leonard will not be playing at the Olympics where we at if I take where how long did we do Guatemala for scrolling down turn my volume down Guatemala we did for 49 minutes okay that checks out I if I had to guess Guatemala is probably the shortest that we did because 49 minutes is not the best actually that's 46 and 46 we can look at the time stamps the shortest one that we did there's a 59 no and that's because I purposely made sure

5:58:24 That we didn't talk about I own the idols more than an hour might Guatemala 4 minutes and oh okay Thailand we talked about for 40 minutes and yeah so Thailand Okay Thailand we talked about for 40 minutes so that's actually the shortest amount of time that we spent on anything so that's that checks out and because a lot of things happened early in the earlier Seasons like it's not much but all right they're going to vote and then we are we on we on to episode six they are voting now so shouldn't be much time so next summer I kind of want to

5:59:44 Have a life because I didn't have much of one this summer but I do the challenge is something that I do want to watch there are a lot of if I'm being honest there are a lot of reality shows that I do want to you know touch on the challenge is one of them I think now knowing that there is a social strategic aspect to the game that makes me more interested in watching it I thought it was just challenge based and that was it and it's like I don't really care about the challenges of Survivor so why would I care about this but if there I've heard that there is a social strategic aspect to the game so I'd be willing to give it a shot next summer if anything probably during the during my winter break because like I said I want to have a life next summer since I didn't have much of one this summer we are now also officially into hour six so that's fun right as the votes are about to be read and like I said I think this is where Jim goes home and I think merory is next if it's not then I couldn't tell you who I mean I would assume Tim would be the next vote

6:01:04 But we'll see Ben two votes Ben but I know he doesn't go [Music] home that's it yeah she goes w wait why am I getting I should not be getting Skype notifications I have my Skype set to Don't Mess With Me Do Not Disturb okay don't disturb me please H all right we are going into episode six go ahead and set that up

6:02:24 Starting episode six starting episode six at next time on Survivor okay so now okay so yeah we're going into Meritor okay I all right so wait a minute who are the first two I would assume it's Tim and Mariah then right yeah you had an idol fam you had an idol oh gosh all right so starting episode six at 7 six five four 3 2 1 23 PM oh 238

6:03:45 Cool 238 starting episode 6 at 238 ESP EST all right I think after this episode I guess halfway through this episode will be halfway done I don't math I have a history degree but I know that we are right on that halfway point right now I know that the season finale is two hours long but it's fine it's fine why do I have this itch oh my God it won't go away we want to go with number 32 right now we can go with number 32 right now also who's going to be our next guest we are we've got we've had some good ones so far we said we've had some fun banter Okay so we've had B Ryan and Bill okay

6:05:05 There we go so up next we have this is that was 33 we're going to go with number 32 number 32 this season and let's see if I can get away with talking about this season without talking about someone I'm going to try my best number 32 we have Survivor Samoa I hate Ben Browning he's be and he still lasts long enough for the hatra to grow I would never quit that show but I understand why Jason on had said hey if you guys don't vote him out then I'm leaving because if I had to live with that scumbag and his buddy who he's this bumping with I probably want to leave too there like every other time you watch it you're looking for literally anyone

6:06:25 Else to pay attention to which it becomes a lot easier because of how much I hate the main character so like danger Dave ball and Eric Cardona Eric Cardona is my favorite juror Go Eric Cardona gives my favorite jury speech of all time I have dressed as Eric Cardona in a fair few games when I'm on the jury I think that he's great and you know I strive to be that drunk for every jury that I remember a part of I really enjoyed watching you know what they give of Natalie's story I really enjoy looking for CGI Brett in the early parts of the show because I think he gives the first confessional and it's like wow that's crazy so the story of CGI Brett how he just randomly shows up I think that's great Laur morett yes please chambo no thank you mck speckless I appreciate Json and

6:07:45 I think that's it I don't think I haven't talked about anyone but it's just another season that is just kind of I can take it or leave it I think that if you watch Samoa and Heroes versus Villains back toback it does work as a good like prologue and then Heroes versus Villains being the actual movie I do if you watch do think if you watch it that way it makes Samoa more tolerable because you get to watch someone lose twice but yeah outside of that you know Samoa is just a season for me and it's a season that I don't really look forward to watching but it's always great to watch the ending it's amazing to watch the ending okay so we're almost at we're almost at number 30 and we're at the merory episode of Survivor 46 we've got seven episodes left which means we have probably about seven hours left probably a little bit longer first several season okay first several season of The Challenge are short half hour episode so it does go like oh okay yeah I didn't I until I watch the trador this time around

6:09:05 I didn't even realize that the challenge was just the road rules real world show that I watched growing up I didn't know exact same show that has changed the name but there is a lot of drama to go with those challenges it's nice to be able to follow some of the characters that come back over and over again yeah I've heard about some of those characters I know you know some of them show up in the trader season to and I really enjoyed them that time around so I would assume that I would enjo enjoy watching the 1.0 and 2.0 or however many versions of them you know watching the challenge yeah I would I feel like I feel like I so I did watch one season of The Challenge it was the one that Tyson and all those guys were on and I really only watched it because they had a whole bunch of Survivor players on there so you know like I said if I were to do it'd probably be around winter break but yeah next summer I'm keeping it off limits to anything dealing with binge watching a show for a podcast because I need to recharge my batteries next year so that I can do this one more time in two years in 2026 when I'm

6:10:26 35 years old hopefully I'm settled down by then but even then my wife's going to have to just realize hey I must do this does Mariah go here I don't remember I don't remember anything that happens in this which is good because I'm basically watching it with fresh eyes and I have enjoyed it post Banu and even then like fine but I am excited to see how I mean I know how it all plays out but see if I how I feel about it because at a certain point during well as I do my actual countdown I am going to slide 46 in there or actually no I'll probably still wait till the end to give my actual and it just everyone else just have to it just have to go down the list like that but having said all that I'm really enjoying this it's weird that people hate this season it's really weird because this ain't this ain't Thailand this ain't Worlds Apart this ain't Redemption Island it's not Nicaragua it's not Worlds

6:11:46 Apart it's Survivor 46 that's what it is Hunter just found I think Hunter just found the idol that he's goingon to inevitably get voted out with oh Li will Cox look at you gorgeous yeah we are we're slowly getting to the time that people usually get off of work which is fun I think that will you know will bring in more of our guests yeah this has been quite the ride so far and I'm not I'm so glad I was able to put food in my stomach because that was actually starting to bother me so I'm just hoping that I can get a few drinks in my system at some point when I get somebody that can be in here for a bit I will probably go get an energy drink because yeah this first six hours and 15 minutes has been great but if you guys don't want a zombie for the last seven and a halfish hours then yeah I'm when I need to

6:13:07 Caffeine up all right so oh I just I just did some all I'll wait I'll wait a little bit I'll wait a little bit I think we've had some fun banter in here today though both with Brian with Phil and with the with everyone that we've had in the chat there's never really been a lull as far as things to talk about oh Liz go just go just soda oh so this is where he finds the idle okay that he inevitably gets voted out I'm glad I don't have to do a recap of all of this because it probably wouldn't it wouldn't make much sense

6:14:37 Who do I think is going to be next Phil caught me off guard I thought I was expecting him to come in later which like it was a nice surprise but I don't know who I don't know who to expect next it's also crazy that everyone's been coming in one at a time I fully expect at some point or another to there for there to be some type of overlap which is fine I don't mind having large groups of people in here okay we have we're heading to Meritor I believe the Two Boots would be Tim and Mariah because I don't remember seeing either one of them on the jury let me see if that's true or like looking at the rest of the people that are out here I'm pretty sure it's Tim and maray that make merory but don't make jury but I guess we'll find out as

6:15:57 This as this progresses Kenzie is getting a lot of content and it's crazy that people didn't see that coming Emily did Emily called it almost immediately I don't I don't know if she was her actual winter pick but Liz is so observant on day 12 we're on hour 6 or 616 Yeah Tim is me Tim is me there's no merge is this Tim's first confessional is the first confessional that I've actually noticed I yeah I guess I mean if he went to if he went on the journey he means he had to have had a confessional that I just I mean I was talking to Phil for a bit so that is entirely possible but that's the purpose of this one today it's just kind of to relax all right we've got our next guest what's up

6:17:17 What's up what's up how we doing man I'm doing great what look I was watching a little bit earlier what episode are we on six we are on episode six right now six we're on episode six we are about 13 minutes into the episode we're at the the merory of it all my favorite you guys are on episode four or five tonight for Game Changers we're on episode five yes okay yes I don't remember myself it life's been crazy so yeah I don't timing wise I don't know if I'm gonna be able to watch that one live today CU right now at the pace that I'm going and I don't plan on taking any breaks I should be done by 9930 tonight if everything goes right so and you guys go live at 9 or8 yeah we go live right at nine o'clock and tonight's episode like the thing is like rewatching it and I don't know how great your memory is my memory is not that great so it's almost like I'm rewatching the season for the first time like I know who wins I kind of know the big moments obviously with game changers there's a lot of major moments that happen but in terms of like how the season plays out the

6:18:37 Order of how people goes right no I don't remember whatsoever I let me see if I can do this because I have that I'm having that problem with 46 because I watched 40 I finished watching 46 four days before I started the marathon so I had four days to like let 46 sit with me and so like I forgotten about most of this but game changers it would be Sierra Tony Sierra Tony I should probably pull this up because I know the first five and then I don't know after that sier I want to say Caleb and then after Caleb would be Malcolm yes and after Malcolm so we're at 16 at that point would it be JT yes JT and then from JT we go to Sandra I got the that's who we're talking about tonight yeah I was so mad too because I texted Sandra seeing if I could get her on the podcast tonight she's on vacation and I was like ah you're good you're fine she's filing some type of reality she's like out on an island right now yeah like

6:19:57 Living the beach God darn it because I Sandra is a good friend of the show so I thought that'd be one person we could get on the show and but I knew she was on vacation I'm like hey I know you're out on vacation but she was like talk about the first time you got voted out of Survivor yeah can we can we talk about game CH well she already told us really good information about game changers she made like a fake Idol we had Troy xan on to talk to him and she made a fake Idol and there was this funny story behind it so she's already given us some backing information I can't ask for more okay you got Sandra are you gonna keep going yeah oh yeah I can so the next would be Varner yes and then from VAR I wonder why from Barner we merge so the merge boot is Haley wow and then after Haley okay that's where it starts to get hard Haley and then it's Azie holy yeah oh I'm sorry I'm allowed to cuss here right you're good after Azie who pulls because then it becomes whoever pulls a big move gets voted out next so Debbie would go next yes and then after Debbie would be Zeke

6:21:17 Yes wow and after Zeke would be H how many are what are we down to at that point final nine hold on give me one second three four five six seven eight Yeah final nine that's surpress he know this and I don't and I have it right here so I think next would be sier Don Thomas yes yeah you keep the streak alive yes all right final eight so this point it's established that the three of them are working together final eight she goes at seven She Goes at six so who's left at eight who's left at eight oh my god oh no that doesn't happen like that is it is Andrea belky yes okay and so then seven would be Michaela yep six would be ser yeah five would be

6:22:38 Aubrey four would be Tai and then the final three are troyan Brad Co pepper Sarah Lena Take a Bow Man I know you just watched that not too long ago but that is like I don't even think I could do that for 46 okay sure can't do it I'm G I'm gonna try to do it really fast okay let me let me pull it up oh God oh God this is the most recent season I'm supposed to be a Survivor expert and I'm going to show that I know nothing there okay go ahead jalinski number one Legend then it would have been oh see already then it then it would have been Jess okay Randon uhuh bonu yep and it would have been Jim Mariah goes after Jim followed by Tim at that merory spot which is like right where you're out right now y then that would have been soda would have been the first person of the jury

6:23:58 Then this is where I get mixed up I believe after so was it Tevin then it was Kevin yeah after Tevin it would have been oh my gosh I know the next two just like what order do they go in is it Hunter it's Hunter then Tiffany then Tiffany then it would have been Venus yep oh man and then we're looking at is it just down to I feel like someone's G to slip in there and I'm gonna be like oh then it final six we're at final six there final three yeah there's someone I'm missing oh my God who is it who am I missing oh wow oh q goes up final six the big no the biggest personality of the Season then it's Maria then it's Liz and then you have or no wait wait no you're right no it is Liz it is Liz yeah don't overthink this Randy then it's Charlie

6:25:18 Benin and Kenzie okay not in that order technically it would have been okay oh my God you had me scared with the Q thing I'm like come on like what are we doing what are we doing the biggest character of the Season almost like arguably the biggest character you could throw a few names in there but like he's the lock he's the lock for 50 from this season and see that the funny thing is I we're working on a video where we're gonna come on here and we're going to talk about like three Castaways each New Era season and yes I know like 47 still has to happen 48 all that but with the legend season coming up we're going to talk about like three Castaways from each New Year of season who has locked in the return at some point not for 50 but just at some point yeah and Q is I mean if you talk about the three for 46 Q's probably got to be one of them Q I would say for me probably be Q Charlie and either Kenzie or Maria we've had a lot well go ahead oh I was just going to say you don't think Hunter potentially yeah I mean Liz potentially I hope but there's been a lot of people in the chat today

6:26:38 That have brought up galinsky like there's been at least four different people that have brought up hey do you think that they would ever let jalinski you know invite galinsky back for like a first boots type thing or a pre-merge type thing and it's like yeah I feel like because gillinsky is now a big meme in the community and because several is now a big meme in the community and the fact that they referenced galinsky during the finale here I feel like he's now in the Zay Knight category of just like memorable first boots so I not for 50 but like jinsky I could see them doing something where they do a pre merge versus PST post-merge type game like they did subri in South Africa and he could be the lone first boot that they have 2.0 would he go out first I don't think they're going to be that mean about I because someone did say oh yeah if they did a first boot season they would have to bring Franchesca back I'm like well no that would be the worst thing to do because if you bring Franchesca back for a third time they're just going to vote her out again first because it's funny it'd be funny to do that shits and giggles this for shits and G exactly the phrase that I use it's like for shits and Giggs for the LOLs no I'm

6:27:59 I'm enjoying so I enjoyed 46 the first time I watched it I don't like it's middle of the road for me but I found out recently like there are a lot of people that outright hate this season and thinks it's somehow worse than like Thailand which is insane I think the bonu definitely I was gonna ask you like how it was rewatching the Bono stuff because that I was one of those people at the very start of it while the Bono stuff was happening like three four episodes in I was freaking out I sent a huge group chat to like all the people on my show and was like survivor's dead Jeff probes is ruin it he needs to turn on he needs to give it up like what the hell is this is you know he's ruin the show I was overreacting like big time after the first couple episodes but then like it ended up being in my opinion the second best new era season I would still have 45 over 46 and then 44 like I would have 45 46 44 all really close and then everything else way yeah so for me it's 4245 oh so okay this is where we're going to really differ okay I am not a fan of 42 and mostly because one I don't remember much from That season and two this is

6:29:19 My hottest take in the Survivor Community I am not a fan of Marana as a winner and it's one of those Seasons that the winner soils the season for me in a way so that's why and everyone always says that they're like how do you how could can you hate Maryann I said uhuh wait hold on I do not I do not hate Maryann she is a wonderful beautiful person and I would love to speak with her and love to meet her this is where I can like the player is different than the person like she's an incredible person I was not a fan of the game she played and why I feel like the jury voted for I almost yeah oh super hot take I almost feel like the jury was more like and this has nothing to do with Maryann but almost like oh like she's just so amazing she's just a bubbly person let's just give it now her idol play at final Tribal Council was incredible that and taking out like om rewat the season yeah she pulled off probably the biggest move of the season when she I think she 3-21 him I'm fairly certain she 3-21 him and om sits there and says oh my God was that you and she's like yeah that was me

6:30:39 Like and in front of the jury and so at that point she has to sit next to Romeo who fizzled out at the pre-merge and she has to go against Mike Turner who no one respects because he keeps saying that he's a man of his word he's a man of his word man of his word and then he would immediately break it and so I felt like the they weren't bitter towards him but they were like it kind of came off his hollow every time he said it to us because he kept saying to us and there's this moment in his head there's this moment you can see on his face where he realizes oh man I really did do that to because he even at final travel he's like no like I only backstab one person and they're all sitting there like that's not true like you actually did this with a lot of that's who I wanted to because I'm always like hey he played the game he played an incredible game but he it's almost like who did I have on for that one oh I had I had Chappelle from Arab and Julia row and they both sat there and I compared MaryAnn's final tribal to Chris D Chris dhy and she compared Mike Turner to twil and vanatu we have another guest yeah I might have been bringing on a special guest how we doing how we doing

6:31:59 Today on this big Wednesday doing all right doing all right how are you doing planks man I couldn't I couldn't let Randy Bruce jump on by itself I had to bring my co-star here my bad my bad coach oh no oh my goodness no that I'm telling you the first four hours of this I had zero guests I had one around the four and a half mark and I had Phil jump in about five and a half in so this is nice to actually be able to talk to folks for the first time all day Abraham how are we doing you were my winner pick for 41 by the way this I was my winner Pi for 41 win pick for 41 yeah because I did I did a draft and I was like oh man like because I'm a part of the Survivor diversity campaign so like when oh hey well first of all hold on hold on thank you oh my goodness because it was a part of that campaign that I'm pretty sure was instrumental in the timing of how we all got on the show together because we took note of it when we arrived there and we looked around and we saw it we was like okay and then we didn't know anything about the campaign until afterwards oh wow and then when I came back and I started to get involved with the Survivor community and I started to meet Wendell and Bryce and some other folks and I was like oh wait a minute they did a lot of stuff behind the scenes before 41 was

6:33:19 Ever put back together because I met some people that were originally in 41 and then I'm in 41 so I kind of I'm like well I'm sorry for you but so those people that you met were they did they eventually make it on to the show or no not by my knowledge I've run into a few people here and there and they were part of the casting process when you still went to LA and you still had to go through everything there so it was nice to meet them but I'm pretty sure that they would have rather been on the show for their season and they were kind of pick and then the pandemic hit so the pandemic kind of threw a lot of stuff out of whack but it also created a whole new 41 based off of your campaign based off of that Initiative for diversity it's like the cookout for the big brother we had no idea about the cookout because it was going on when we were filming so we didn't know about that until we got back but to have the opportunity just to be out there on the island to go through the process and now be a part of the Survivor family even the CBS family because I get to meet a lot of Greater people just because I got a I got an opportunity to do something I want to do a dream come true for me but again coach I get to meet people like yourself I get to meet people like gry Bruce so I have no complaints and this has been a it's always a great adventure yeah and I'll tell

6:34:39 You when that c and I went off I went on this rant when I covered 41 what five days ago we had done a pre and I told this is the second time I'm telling the story today we had done a pre U season analysis thing and for some reason someone had invited Russell Hans on there I'm not a fan of that man at all both ingame and out but he comes on and he's very drunk and he's talking about how the cast is too woke and I was just like all right I know what that means I know what that means and as it as it kept on talking about it I'm just sitting there trying to be as civil as possible because I try not to be rude to people that are not being specifically rude to me but I just kept reading between the lines like I can't wait till you just get off of this and so afterwards he said some more things that were pretty questionable and I haven't talked to him since then but you know I felt like it was I mean the C the campaign was needed and we've seen it happened you know it's funny that you bring up the cookout when y'all's season was airing everyone kept calling that the four lyanna Shan Sean and Danny they kept calling them

6:35:59 The camp out and I was like that's so funny that y I mean the camp out didn't last too long but they were calling them the camp out and you know it was I didn't watch Big Brother Until That season because I wanted to see you know the work that all of us put in I wanted to see what would happen in that situation so to see the cookout do what they did I'm still not big the biggest fan of big brother but it was it was nice to see that happen there go ahead I get a chance and here's the beauty of the show I got a chance to meet everybody said Xavier me and Xavier just have been in the same place at the same time you've never met Xavier I don't different I mean we got think we bounce back from different Coast I've met Xavier that's met because I don't go to Philly either and I'm only in New York sometimes he was in New York when we went that one time though that's how I met him oh I didn't meet him I was still kind of new too but here's the picture now here's the opposite of what Russell H said there's a player that was in my season Brad Reese he is a six-year Rancher from Wyoming me and him don't have anything in common now one thing in common we actually met after we got voted out so I didn't meet him before the game because we couldn't talk to each other

6:37:19 I didn't meet him doing the game because he was on a different tribe not Xander Xavier X Xavier oh my bad I Xander the entire time I was just talking to I totally hey I'm that's gonna blame the car accident yesterday on Abe I'm gonna blame that one on the car accident I'm in the middle of talking to Xander right now about something else that's why I was so shocked I thought you said Xander person and I was like there's no way you haven't you always say like I oh we can talk to Xander sometime I'm good friend I was just talking but here's the thing so meeting Brad is from Wyoming I'm from Atlanta I live in Texas now and here's how diversity works in the real world I'm in a bungalow so I'm still trying to process the game I'm like everybody said whatever you do don't get voted out first so that definitely was not part of my game plan but now I'm voted out Sarah's voted out with me I'm in a bungalow then we see every player that gets voted out afterwards Brad shows up I think third or fourth and he's voted out I think it's fourth or fifth because I think J JD came first he gets voted out I'm mean a bungalow it's 100 probably 150 Bungalows we can be in any one of them it's only probably 15 of us there so and I'm talking about the crew and everybody else because it's different once you get voted out you can talk to

6:38:39 Everybody so yeah I want a little peace and quiet so I find me a little Bungalow I get a TV I got some movies I'm good with the Solitude and Brad comes and knocks on the door mind you now there's a bunch of other open Bungalows and I don't know you I've never met him he comes in he sits down we get to talk and we share we got families he has kids have he has three I got two daughters two sons and I'm like okay cool you from Wyoming dude I'm not going to Wyoming no time soon I've been to Brad's Ranch except for this summer every summer for the past three years hey you're supposed to take me with you one of these times and we it's in the woods and we go out to the ranch is he is he like me no he has different beliefs he has different things but that's not what brings us together we are actually a group of people that we fall into the same categories we both a f we're both married we both have families do we have different views on stuff yeah we talk about gun control we talk about Society but here's the difference between somebody that don't want to be a part of diversity you don't want to sit down and have a discussion with somebody and learn something now for him to invite me into his home I'm look I got moisturizers from his wife because she makes moisturizers for your skin Shan the sea all of us never knew

6:39:59 Each other we come together to do this show called Survivor not because we're different because we all had the same dream to be on this show to be a part of this family I remember the very first episode of Survivor and I'm in Japan looking at Survivor I'm looking at that old kg Marine Corps guy that really wasn't about diversity grew up through a different era but again he connected with the one gay person on the Shelf yeah that's diversity it's not judging people but at the end of the day we're a great cast of friends now that know each other that when you go out into the world no matter what color you are what religious you are what sexual orientation you are we're a family and we see each other in the middle of the street we gonna always be a family you're supposed to be you're supposed to be a family after Survivor tell that to Survivor 46 cast no the thing here look here's the thing all F All Families got some bad family members every family member don't get along so this it's the real it's the real world trapped into a reality show but I don't we didn't set it up the way it was set up we're just that now we're 41 and that's gonna always I always try to phrase it like this obviously I've never been out there probably never will but I always try to compare it to y'all have basically

6:41:20 Gone through a traumatic experience together and traumatic and you're bonding through everything that's happening out there and I don't think that people really get that I mean we don't get that but I feel like people that try to try to get you guys to hate each other after the game and want you guys to be angry with each other it's like you guys don't understand what they are actually dealing with out there and especially with y'all so with 41 and 42 I give y'all even more credit because y'all are coming out of covid a lot of y'all were locked down for it and now you're going out here and dealing with people you know after not dealing with a lot of folks over the last year and they've now changed the game up a little bit where like Hey we're not going to give you any of the stuff like y'all are really going to have to buckle down with I know a lot of people like to complain about oh yeah there's too much crying and too much emotion on the show now it's like yeah do you understand what these all of these people just went through not only out there but what they had just gone through the year beforehand it's it was here's the thing about a 41 and 42 because we sharing the same experience in the fact that we had two weeks in Fiji in quarantine you're not in talk to anyone you ain't quarantined by yourself now for some people the Solitude is great for other people it's torture then on top

6:42:40 Of that I prepare for Survivor looking at all the old shows of Survivor all the old players you know I'm like I'm pattering my game after them I'm like I'm waiting for these challenges I'm ready to get physical I knew my strategy going in I said I'm G to go with the physical part that way I can buy my S myself some time and see what's going on not knowing that it was going to be three trial not knowing that the game wasn't going to be the original time Lim it was going to cut it down to 26 days not knowing any of that stuff until we got there and we still made the best of it I mean ultimately you want to win the game but ultimately I think that if you go and you have the experience you're gonna have that for a lifetime I was just talking to Tiffany the other day you know I was just talking to Xander this morning I'm about to text him back and we're different and but you the experience man I mean and that's the one thing we can never really relate to anybody the experience when you're standing on the beach in Fiji with six five other players and you look up and see the Milky Way galaxy that was our first night and to be in that moment and be able to look at that other person to say this is a dream that I share with you as well as a dream for myself and I think some people miss that so but I love going back seeing the old season I love meeting the old players because they inspir me to want to apply for

6:44:00 The show they inspire me to want to apply again and was like okay I'm GNA apply one more time and I'm never going to apply this show again the fates of what you did because I got to give homage to what you've done because if the diversity C campaign wasn't there may be a chance that I wouldn't be there so and what was put together and say okay we're gonna look for a new cast now don't get me wrong my interview tape was funny okay 43 seconds long no my initial tape was trash it was like 16 seconds 16 seconds was my initial tape that I sent in with my application but my five minute tape when I go back and look at it I'll be laughing because I'm like who is that guy he was really funny and yeah I would have loved to made it to the merge I would have loved to compet it for the for the finale but I'm still a part of the family and I still had a great adventure but I still owe it to other people that paid the way for me and we you know what even when I look at Survivor I'm like I would have done that different I would have I would have you watched your season yet Abraham or no he still never seen season yeah the closest I got to even going back watching my season was I was on a Delta flight and here's some cool stuff that happens to us I'm on a Delta flight going to I think New York for the finale and they have my season

6:45:21 On if you go on the airline you're looking at it my season's on and I'm like oh okay and I'm looking at myself playing and I'm like I'm gonna look at just the beginning and I looked at the beginning but I didn't look at the rest of it why is my power going down on my battery something's over my computer but no it's a pleasure man and then I met Randy Bruce how long we known each other Randy what four years now going on going on four years since the show started so like three and a half three and a halfish Met You in December where are you at coach I live in Upstate New York I live near Albany oh nice well hold up but I grew up in Maryland my family from Mississippi like hey family all over the place went to college near Pittsburgh but yeah I've been I mean I've been a fan since so you brought up you sh up on the beach one of the scenes that's always resonated with me is in Survivor marqueses when Shawn first touches down on the beach and he's just you know he's he's overcome with emotion because he's like he can't believe that he's out there and Sean reer is one of my favorite players is period but that moment every time I watch that scene you know I I feel I get those feels and also when bppi wins That season I remember exactly where I was in my mom's hair salon

6:46:42 When it happened and when she won it was you know it was I think that's like really became real to me because I love the first three seasons but like when that happened in that season it's like all right cool like I'm 11 years old or something at that point and it meant a lot think I was I think I was in the world somewhere but then point oh my bad when marann wins in 42 it was like 20 it was basically 20 years later since Sephia won and there's a there's a video somewhere on the internet of me like my players got a video of me crying my eyes out watching Mary watching Maryann win because it just it felt it felt different and it felt let me tell you something man first of all marann is one of the nicest people you ever want to meet in person nicest person but if you look at how she strategically went through that season and she laid out her doing her here's the thing about it is unfortunately we're not worried about you guy unfortunately if you can't tell a story which is all the ear markable be doing telling stories Maryann told a story with an exclamation mark on it and then she had an idol that she didn't have to play then she had to navigate through the game when they wanted to vote her out it was so much just things that went on in that actual season and Maryanne was it's

6:48:02 Hard to stay up beat and then it's hard to tolerate the person that is upbeat because you're like why you so happy we sleeping in dirt every night you got how you feel with me Abraham am I always so happy yeah why you so happy all the time we need you to tone it down you getting on my nerve because you're too happy you're too enthusiastic and to be able to have that and then here's the thing of the beauty about the show it only gives you a glimpse of a person it's when you meet him in person you be like oh you really are that person now that could be good to B sometime depend on who you're dealing with but for Maryann to meet her in person she has a beautiful smile I mean and then we show the family part of how many people were able to attend her wedding from her cast you know you see things like that and you like okay this is what the show really is about and then we get to bring in the next season and it's crazy because we all are connected we'd be like hey what season were you on we don't even know each other like that we like hey what season was on oh okay now we're in a circle amongst ourselves and we can talk about things that unfortunately people can't understand because you don't get the opportunity to experience then I tell everybody apply for the show the worst somebody could tell you is no yeah a nice speech I disagree the worst they can do is not answer b i take that as a I mean I've only applied realistically

6:49:22 I've only applied twice but really I've only applied once the first time that I did it was wow okay s times yeah first time I applied was October of 2020 and I was you know I was in my Fields because I'm alone and i' been a long time since I've seen a human and I got very drunk and made a very bad video and so then two years later so I think August of 2022 I made another one I put more time into what I wanted to say and you know I got hey we'll get back to you if you know this that and the other didn't hear anything back didn't take offense to it because like all right cool if I do this again it this gives me another chance to make it better be more of myself and I you know I plan on making a new one this summer at a certain point but you know I'm one of these people that I'm always GNA love the show whether I make it or don't make it whether they change things or don't change things you know I'm always gonna it's always going to be my show and I think 46 is a testament to you know people go out and say oh yeah 46 is the worst thing that's ever happened like you've clearly never watched anything before 46 because you know there are some all and out actual Bad seasons

6:50:42 Of surv of Survivor and you know watching it like this watching the way that I do you know 46 season 46 days you try to latch on to the positives when you watch those Seasons again so that you don't have to hate watch it all day if I had to hate watch every season I didn't like this time around I would not have finished this look you could have not asked for a better character in q like Q was the one character I almost forgot earlier we were doing a test where we were seeing if I can name in order how they got eliminated and I forgot about Q Abraham could you do that could you remember every player and how what the order they got eliminated first of all I only think about our season I don't really worry about other people's season because I only got to be factful about my own season what are you talking about you're a Survivor podcaster it's your job to worry about other people as a Survivor podcaster hold on I prepare for every season so that is matter of fact that's qes them season right there I got the names I sent it out to y'all what you talking about I sent it out we prepare for the season but then we have to get to know the players you know you get to know each other and be like okay now I'm rooting for you because I've seen you and I'm like okay I'm rooting for Q because Q was so destructive he was

6:52:02 Like vote me out he said I messed up this go ahead and vote me out I was like hold up that might be the either the best idea or the worst idea and he stayed for what three or four more votes you like yeah he made the final six and he said that two or three times during the game it's like all right I think you might actually be serious but I don't know and he would have made it better if he' have played his Idol with the rest of them that didn't play the idols ID we might have saw Q sitting with the last three making that speech we might have saw where hey they didn't vote out and it was like okay well this works out for me because I made it to the final three but here's the thing about it is Survivor is so unpredictable I mean if I was on season 42 strength would have made a difference me and Jonathan would have clicked but I was on 41 where we were coming off of a pandemic and they was like whatever they was like and then they started to annihilate yasa started to get annihilated but here's the thing we get a chance to meet people like coach which is great to meet you great opportunity and I'll tell you about just keep applying because here's the end of the day apply and just be yourself on your video don't think too much about it don't overthink the video I didn't set up nothing I didn't even want to do a video I was in the dark looking at the presidential campaign back then and I was typing the application I was like because I was looking at Survivor in that I was like I'm gonna apply one more time because technically I applied

6:53:23 Twice once when you were probably not born who wait a minute did he freeze oh he might have froze the best time we're never G to know I was going to say there's no way he could have applied before I was born because I was born 91 I was born I was born 98 so he holds that over my head yeah which I don't no that's still not true you couldn't applied before I was born yeah because the show came out two oh they filmed it in the fall 99 right they filmed it 99 it came out in 2000 I think yeah so he's like frozen but we'll get him back and we'll figure out where he where he was going to leave us where was oh where was I going with this oh just giving it a Time update every oh okay so we're 650 into the Pod we are about we're about 14 minutes left in episode six so I think episode seven would mean that we are halfway done it is 3:30 in the afternoon where I'm at so I yeah same for me I got like 5 10 minutes left with you okay all right no thank you so much for even hopping on man like

6:54:43 I'm telling you that it this is so much easier being able to talk to someone because normally when I'm doing this I'm just watching by myself and I'm not live streaming so it's a lot different now I don't want to have dead air so I've basically been talking for almost seven hours you're like don't go anywhere well no yeah I mean you I've been able to talk to the like the comments have been actually like they've been popping off today so good so I'm happy with that but at a certain point you just you need human interaction and so I wasad 46 days yeah especially after 46 I'm going to I told everyone at the beginning of this I'm going to sleep right after I'm not doing like a review after this like this is it I'm going to bed and I'm not going to wake up until probably noon tomorrow because I just I need my voice doesn't actually sound like this I actually have a I would say a higher pitched voice but I'm losing my voice now I'm gonna shave because I haven't since the hair's been growing out yeah well I mean I still have this big ass bald spot right here but so I'm just GNA save it all off

6:56:03 I just need I just need a fresh start and I'm going to watch something stupid tomorrow like I don't even know what I plan on watching tomorrow but it's not going to be anything Survivor related at all I probably just super I'll just I'll just say Abraham lost power on his on his computer so he might not be back I'm gonna I mean Abraham thank you so much for hopping in here it was very nice to talk to so like talk to my winner pick from Survivor 41 Abraham's so cool and I like I asked him I said look he gotta hop on this guy coach has done 46 all 46 seasons and 46 days which just blows my mind like you're so like that's such commitment based and that is incredible like Abraham like even wait hold on yeah he's back no I've had more than like this ry's actually the third person to join me today I was a little bit later well even later but like everyone's working throughout the day so I'm not expecting people to hop until later in the day anyway so we're all good and I appreciate you obviously joining in but I yeah I was telling oh Abraham is back I was telling Abraham I said what coach has done has been incredible

6:57:23 And he was like yeah even as a Survivor player I don't know if I could do that and I heard a rumor coach that you're gonna do this again for 50 like 50 seasons in 50 days and then you're going to retire after that right yeah I'm done I've done this for 40 42 and Now 46 I'm done after 50 because I lost so when I did this for 42 I lost 10 pounds because I didn't do anything because I you know as a college coach once the summer starts you're just chilling so I that's why I'm able to just camp out and kind of just do this hey let me let me sorry coach I'm gonna jump in here whatever reason my bad battery for my laptop is not charging like it should and I don't want to miss what do you coach I coach College rugby oh nice see you could have got me ready that was a problem man I was I would have been ready and it's charging I don't know why I didn't charge where I was sitting up here so you got some down time well you know what I want to say I appreciate it I appreciate it because it's just a great adventure and I and keep applying man and if you coach if you out there coaching rugby I need to see some rugby in your in your application okay yeah I need to I need to see who you are and that's the biggest thing about it is man they want to

6:58:44 See they don't want to see a scripted thing what I was trying to say before they don't want to see something scripted just be like you know what I gotta go out here and deal with these kids right now some of them they look different and matter of fact let me take you out to the field oh that'd be cool that'd be really cool they freeze again I think the his thing finally died oh man what a way to hey I before I kind of log off here I did want to ask you something yeah so I told you I know for all these videos you've kind of mentioned like who could come back for 50 I need to see a full list I need to see a full list of everyone you think could realistically come back for 50 realistically okay I can do that but I have I have some names for the new era season of people I don't think will come back and will be and I'm not talking like the second Boots the third boots like people that we expect I'm talking about Big Time Players that I don't think we'll play again okay like who I don't think Carolyn will play again I was actually shocked enough that she's doing traders that she's do because like okay thing things could change things could change but I chatted with her in New York after her season and I straight up ask her I was like when are we going to

7:00:04 See you back out there because obviously she was like the biggest character that season or one of the biggest characters and it was a very emphatic no like she's like I got like the social media aspect of it and all that it was so I'd be I'd be shocked everyone's always saying like Carolyn is a shoeing to come back I don't think she is I mean they're gonna invite her back they're going to invite her back they're going to invite her back it's just whether or not she says yes or not which I could be wrong she obviously her mind could change I just don't know if she would come back I'm beginning to think and again this is like recency it's right after the season so stuff could always change I don't know if Kenzie would go back out there I mean based off the that people were pulling with their after the game yeah I would say that like she seems like she's distancing herself from Survivor like these people are crazy they're cway alone yes they are showing up their jobs they're attacking Maria online you know they're hitting on Liz on Twitter that's just me but like publicly I'm not getting her DMS doing it was hey we all have our survivor Crush exactly her and Hannah Shapiro for me so H should I out mine I should probably why wouldn't you

7:01:24 I'm an open book so mine is Lauren like I'm talking Lauren Alexandra ke Kelly went worse Lauren oh okay Lauren from Edge Of Extinction yeah I could I was I was thinking like which season was that it was 38 Oh I thought you were talking about Lauren Ashley Beck from Island of the idols and I'm like okay cool like that's whatever that's there's so many Laurens that I had to make sure like I was announcing the right the right one yeah it's Lauren the one from station yeah I mean she G so yeah I think at one point during the next offseason I'm going to do like my top 10 Survivor crushes or whatever just like just to have Survivor content still going I would want to I would want to be a part of that I would love to have you for that I do whether I'm watching y'all's game changers live tonight or if I have to hop in right after I'm done I think that it's going to match up where I'm 30 minutes I'm gonna be 30 minutes behind y'all but I do plan on watching do you want to go ahead and chill yeah I'll do my out stuff so hello no so my podcast is the Survivor Now podcast we are currently also recapping an older season

7:02:44 It's something that we've done during the summertime this season is Game Changers and we are covering episode five tonight it's really chill which I'm sure you know coach like a lot of times it's more chill I will get to that answer in just a second but we're kind of going through a Rebrand a Renaissance of now like right now with Survivor now we got a new logo we just started up our patreon today so and we've got an exciting some exciting stuff in the works one of the stuff in the works I was talking about it earlier it's that video where we're going to go through all the new era seasons and kind of pick three people from each one that we think are guaranteed to return to Survivor at some point that will be a patreon exclusive video at first and then yeah so you can check out all of our content go to our social media on Instagram Survivor Now podcast or you could go to our website Survivor now podcast.com for all the intro or info yeah there we go I didn't make too many mistakes all right let's see do you think that bonu the actor that is saying he's not an actor but has been several movies will return bonu is that's the third time someone has asked the question

7:04:06 [Laughter] is bonu is a tough one because early on in Survivor 46 I said guaranteed yes bonu is going to get an invite back I'm leaning more on no because of how the community has responded to Banu casting has seemed more aware we talked about like the new initi can't say the word the new way they cast the show now basically the diversity campaign and all that and I know I'm not saying that has anything to do with that but I feel like the casting team is more mindful about how people are viewed in the public eye especially with how big social media is now so answer that I'm going with is no like very early on I was like I hope you guys know Bono's getting an inite back so don't be too annoyed with him but now that the season's ended and there was so much bonu hate and he took it like a champ I never saw him really you know down and out about it I don't think they would bring them back just because they know like if you're looking at bonu and galinsky let's bring back someone crazy that went out early in the game I think they would much rather bring back jalinski over bonu and if you're looking at it like that they're not bringing jalinski and bonu back

7:05:26 So that's kind of how I'm looking at it now no I would say that I agree with you and yeah I sat here for the first four episodes like please get Bon off my TV and I just I always kept on reiterating I'm sure he's a great guy in real life he just comes off as very annoying this time around especially his boot episode where he's like on his knees begging Tiffany to keep him that was one of the lowest Survivor moments when I saw that I was instantly like okay guys we need to like we need to check in on him on here yeah and she's like get up hey I'm voting for you tonight because I can't trust you and they give him the Barner treatment I didn't even remember that they don't even go and vote PRS is just like oh are you guys voting for Banu and they're like yeah we're voting for Banu I didn't like that not a big fan of that they did the exact same thing with Hannah in 4 five 45 yeah they just kind of said oh yeah Hannah see you I mean how would you how would you react if someone got on their knees and started like begging please tell me what I can would you same thing I would I couldn't help it I would have to laugh at them because it's like this person cannot be serious right now there's no way that you were actually on your knees begging me to

7:06:46 Not vote you out of this game I can't I can't buy that Amber Burk does it in Allstars but it's very it's done very tongue and cheek you know she's not actually on her knees begging them to not vote was he was pleading B was begging and it's like you how did you get here how we also saw him curse God on live TV which I don't remember that ever yeah not even that it's just like he's praying to Jeff to lead him to the idol and it's like this is you aren't real you are not a real person you are a figment in all of our imaginations and we're all having same fever dream you're not actually here and he was there and I think that it was funny the first time it was less funny this time and whenever I watch this season again I'm just going to take shots the entire time because I just I was about you should have took shots every time the camera cut to Banu every time it cut to Banu take a shot we wouldn't be having this conversation right I'd be out like this because just like yeah everyone's po I have a large waiting room of people just waiting to pop in it's like sorry guys Bono killed me okay so next episode whatever is ready to start

7:08:06 Give me just a second before you bounce no you're all good man so this is episode what would this be this would be episode seven yeah EP starting episode why is that I think I forgot to say the time the time tonight we watch Game Changers tonight Live on YouTube at 900 p.m. eastern time 6m Pacific that's the one thing I forgot was what time it's like give us the time yeah it's I'm I've obviously I've enjoyed it up to this point I am you guys are on episode five tonight so this is this is the JT no yeah this is the JT one no JT went out last week this is the Sandra one tonight oh okay where they do the second swap they do the second Swap and crazy Debbie has to go to Exile island with Cochran yeah which I'm excited for because Cochran is my favorite player all time I'm sorry to hear that you don't like conck I'm actually not I'm not a conck person I'm not a conck person you don't like Maryann I don't like

7:09:26 It's a fair it's a fair tradeoff anyways a fair trade but my whole thing with that scene is because it's completely random there is a big chance that either s Sandra Azie there's a chance that Sandra has to go and what is Cochran gonna teach Sandra that she doesn't already know she could you could send sir who what is Cochran gonna teach sir that sir doesn't already know or you send Azie who antagonized the out of him the last season and it's just going to be this very Awkward Moment of Cochran who has now won the game teaching Azie who has lost four times because he can't do anything right when it comes to Social and strategic I know you're not an Aussie fan yeah that's actually my first Aussie reference all day so like yeah that was it's funny to like fantasy book who could have gone with Cochran out there and how awkward that would have been depending on who it was if I was on that season and I found out Cochran was just like a little seawater away and I didn't get to go meet him I would have been pissed I would have been pissed I saw that was last episode and I'm just sitting there and I'm like what is Debbie talking about she's like everybody

7:10:47 Knows I could get across about the Haley thing Haley took 12 minutes to walk AC I'm like what are you talking about like you didn't even get over the second one and Haley and BR like debie I feel like you're really playing into this crazy Debbie role that got labeled on you in the first in your first time around she like really played into it to the point where she thought she was like the Mastermind and she was during the aie boot and then her ass got sent packing next that's the only reason I remember that boot order is because she literally she literally jumps down that same episode and like in the challenge jumps down and goes ha I was down first and then while they're doing the challenge the next part of the challenge she looks at Cold pepper and she goes did you see that Brad I was down first and I'm just I'm losing it the entire episode every time back Brad for having to deal with it I mean Brad was like I don't know why you're mad at me I love you Debbie and she's like I don't I don't get angry when I get angry I do my workout and that's why you have an eight pack like this and you're ripped like this and I was like oh Debbie I want Debbie back they should bring Debbie back for 50 please Noe no just no

7:12:07 And there would already be someone a male in her archetype kind of are you talking Q I'm I would put Q in that archetype so we don't need we don't need crazy Debbie again we've gotten I feel like two is enough I don't we saw what happened the third time that we got coach we got the worst version of Coach if get Debbie 3.0 we probably get the worst version of Debbie just call it there it's all good if we ever got Philip Shepard for a third time it probably be the worst version of Philip Shephard okay who is one person if you had to bet your like mortgage whatever if you had to bet your life savings on this person is going to be on Survivor 50 like it or not who would you put it on I'll give you mine's Rick devans I would bet a lot of money that Rick Dev on because we know that yeah because Rick Dev his relationship with Jeff and yeah Rick devans thank you for saving me from what I was going to say who are you gonna say I was gonna say Jonathan I could see it a lot of people are saying Jonathan's gonna be back so thank you for rescuing me from that because I don't want Jonathan back so and I don't want to bet my mortgage or whatever like I'm so I'm glad that you rescued me we had this discussion

7:13:27 Earlier I don't think so I think she's done I don't think Siri's ever done only because this is really like this is the last thing that she has to do she has to win Survivor and she just keeps running into these twists if she's on 50 you get a confessional early on in the season of her saying this is it I think if she's on 50 it's a retirement season she goes I'm going to try this one more time and I yes I could for sure see D I don't know if they have any winners for 5050 though yeah that's been my defense is I don't think that they're going to do winners for 50 but I do and if they do it's an older winner it's like Todd Herzog or it's a Earl Cole yeah because they've been trying to get Earl Cole back for a while and every time they do he ends up having something going on in life so I think that Earl yeah I don't think it's a new era season no I don't I don't think so either did you did you ever answer the question I did like a sex marry kill question on our Instagram but in Survivor terms so it was choose one of these players

7:14:47 Gets to go on Survivor 50 one gets to go on the Traders and then one you will never see them play again and it's like the three most talked about players it's Todd Natalie and Earl Cole yeah yes because that also ended up on that also ended up on a Facebook group on some Facebook group that and there were so many people saying oh we don't want Earl and I'm like it's very curious that none of you guys want to have Earl back but I'm not gonna say anything for me it would be probably Natalie on the trador Earl back in Survivor and like it's not a knock one Todd it's tough someone's got to never for me it would be on Survivor 50 Natalie like Natalie on Traders Mak sense I'm kind of on the side that Earl wasn't the most entertaining player to me and so that's why I have him never playing again okay again coach is right to kick me off the show he's like as soon as I leave he's gonna be like that guy knows nothing about you on Maran and now you on Earl you gonna on bpia next I'm kid no I'm messing don't even say that don't put that out there oh don't now is a good time to say my second

7:16:07 Favorite player ever is Jeremy Collins so of course of course saved as yeah no I obviously I'm messing with you but I hope so I hope I did vote on that and I'm fairly certain I had Natalie on Traders Earl on Survivor because yeah I think Nally Bolton would do very well I mean she doesn't get much content in Micronesia I mean as we talked about already but she doesn't get much content on Micronesia but in that very small amount of time she gained this very large following and that following has not gone away I almost I mean Micronesia is a season I covered with you during this like 46 and 46 thing I would almost want to see Alexis back more than atalie because everyone kept talking about how that was her name right Alex I'm noton yeah now started referring to any player that is talked about as a threat but never shown as the Alexis Jones effect ever since we did that Micronesia thing it's like oh yes the Alexa Jones back that's why I'd rather see her like everybody knows Natalie Bolton has some sass to her and she's got a little bit of attitude but like

7:17:28 Alexis everyone was looking at her she was going to win that game as she made the final three and I'm like where I didn't I didn't see her whatsoever so now I just want to see Alexis back to see if we see the Unstoppable player that our castmates were saying she was that or they could just start doing like director's cuts of seasons and just like just give me the Natalie edit Samoa give me the Natalie white edit of Samoa please God please because I hate watching Samoa because I have to watch that man hijack the TV show give me the edit of Heroes versus Villains please you know give me give me you don't have to I would rather them do that than contining to bring back like bring back people like it's they still have the footage they can easily put something together give me the Erica edit of season 41 give me the Erica edit of season 41 stop showing me people trying to throw the challenge to get rid of ver stop showing me people referring to her as a threat show it these people aren't crazy they very clear aren't czy because they voted for her after they said she was a threat just show it to us I would take all of that lost footage if it meant wiping season 39 off the map

7:18:49 Give me give me the island the idols edit but just Tommy actually you know associating with Dan just to see how big into the situation he was I messed up I'll leave you with this I messed up when you were watching season 38 edge of Extinction I said oh we don't talk about this season I'm so sorry I was like commmentating being like I'm so sorry you had to go through this and then like the next day I saw you say okay now we're covering island of the idols and I said Randy you idiot you messed up people don't like edge of Extinction so I just thought it I just thought you were I have no problem with Edge Of Extinction that could get in some hot takes as well about like the winner whether it and everything but I was like Randy you idiot it was island of the idols I was like let's just not talk about season 39 was a bad I saw I saw your I don't want to bring it back up because I know it's like touchy subject but I saw your message where you were like and Kelly is complaining five minutes into the show and may I remind you this man makes it very far oh yeah on yeah and let's just not forget that this man makes the final five so let's just we're just gonna just keep on yeah it just it just kept on happening and it oh this is this challenge

7:20:09 Where they have to stand on the balance in the water yeah I don't remember Tim at all and Tim is me like Tim is a black coach with a beard that wears glasses and I'm just like Yeah and I don't remember him not making any comments now oh yeah because you hate Earl and Jeremy and bpan I said I like Jeremy is my favor player and all of them I invited Abraham on the show today yeah I'm sure you did you had Abraham on the show that's what he's saying and like I don't even believe it man it was oh man coach this just shows like how awesome you are man I will say that because I have a phone call I have to take in about 10 minutes so that's why I was gonna leave some buffer room but so I told Abraham I said I'm gonna hop on talk to him 30 40 minutes I've been on I think almost an hour roughly an hour yeah about an hour I could talk longer man oh and actually I do have to take this call I'm not go go all right thank you man hey have a good so much man I'll talk to you soon peace out later all right so that is our fourth guest of the day if we count Abraham which we do because he was here that's our fourth guest of the day we've had Brian Phil Abraham Randy

7:21:30 So and we're getting to around the time of the day where people start to get off of work so for all I know you know we'll get more I understand why all the idols is such a train wreck but I feel bad because there are F eight to 12 people yes absolutely and we talked about the other night you know Island Idols is a very fun pre-merge it is like it's it's a very fun pre merge and there are a lot of characters on the season even after the merge thing happens that I really enjoyed you know Jamal when we had Phil on here earlier we talked both talked about how we loved them all Elaine Janet Lauren Tommy DK Chillin Nora even pre mergers like Chelsea you know I think there is a lot of stuff that is right with that season which is why it's no longer my least favorite season because there is a lot to like about that season Thailand is actually just the worst because also yeah I haven't updated my thing in a bit let's see what was the last season that I what was the last season that I updated in here and H oh

7:22:50 Was number 32 all right so we're going to go to number 31 and the number 31 we have 31 we have this season so in 31 we have Survivor One World One World actually moved up a couple spots for me this time around I think it's I won't say it's underrated by any means it's underappreciated because there is a lot of fun things going on it's not just the chem show I would say that it's the it's the Women's Alliance show if you want to talk about successful women's alliances you know we can talk about the three big like the three big women's alliances period are the one in Batu that kind of gets decimated by Chris we have the one in Micronesia which you know we get that win and then we get the one in one world which the women just the entire steamroll the entire thing and it's not just Kim it's Kim Sabrina and Chelsea you know Alicia sucks but like it's the three of them and I watching get this time like 31 is still low but I really enjoyed one row this

7:24:10 Time around you know it was a lot better on this third or fourth re watch and it has been in the past for me so I'm excited to potentially when potenti I watch it again in two years to see how it fares that time around [Music] yeah anyway they have they're on the balancing challenge Drew what is his name Tim I like Tim I think he goes he does go home this episode I'm surprised when Randy was here for those that are hopping in I'm surprised that I was able to do the boot order for Game Changers that shouldn't be that shocked I did just watch it like two weeks ago but yeah it was it was a lot of fun anyway oh I got this horrible picture anyway I guess I'll delete it ah oh no I'll do it we will we will

7:25:30 Put that on the insta story what do I say my winner pig from season 41 sto to see cello we about so okay done scroll yeah we'll do like that your story all right all right as we continue it is now 4 o' I am 7 and a half hours into this I'm fairly certain I'm at the halfway point or at least over the halfway point and I'm not tired I know that I was I was pretty low energy the around hour two or three but I'm slowly catching my second win thank you to everyone that has hopped in throughout the day so far it's been a blast hello okay cool I still never went and got caffeine but I have been drinking water so that's good yeah I honestly don't know what I'm gonna

7:26:50 Watch after I'm done this tonight I'm gonna go watch you know Randy's podcast as they talk about game changers and then I'm done with Survivor like watching Sur dri until oh that's not true I have I'm going on somebody else's pod in a couple months to discuss a season so never mind oh yeah by the way I should probably send this out where is it I keep forgetting that I'm not like where is the link there it is why wouldn't I don't understand where's the link I'll go to Yahoo and do it that way did Maria just went her first one I think Maria just won her first immunity and we know that's going to be a storyline for the next few episodes I'm excited about copy we're going to send

7:28:10 That to them paste send about s feel free to stop in and say hello at any point okay sent I think at eight hours I'm going to do another update on my gram make sure all right texting all right Mar just want immunity I know they have to do they're going to vote out 10 I think here let me the episode title is episode several I didn't even realize that I yeah didn't realize that the Legend of galinsky continues

7:29:30 I guess because I didn't realize the name of that episode of this episode is episode several okay so they are gonna is this a double this a double boot episode because they're we're only 21 minutes into I think this might be a double boot which means yeah that would make sense because last season so what was his name sefue this his name sefue I don't remember but he goes he goes out and then we get Caleb right afterwards so I think it's the same here where Tim is gonna go and then T soda somebody something like that happened yeah seven and a half in we're on episode seven we've got five episodes left and yeah we are we're flying through we're flying through this

7:30:51 Which is very exciting I cannot believe that I did this again I cannot believe I did this again let's check my messages it's been a while since I checked my messages lizel Cox you beautiful woman Venus is complaining about something because of course she is what was I looking up I was looking up something I can't remember oh I know what I was looking at oh that was a big smile where's Jen a hold on I'm gonna mute for a

7:32:20 Second all right I'm back we want to do another episode another season we can do another season let's do another season we'll round out the we'll go to number 30 number 30 there we go number 30 for number 30 we've got this season right yeah number 30 we've got Survivor caram moan it on rewatch the fans tribe is not as boring as I have claimed for to them have claimed them to be in the past they're it's fun it's a fun car crash on the favorite side you know once again you know it's very questionable with how some of these are favorites but I think that some of them make well with what they are given Andrea belky once again does very well in it you know I think that there is a chance that Eric could win it's not as much of the Cochran show as I remember

7:33:40 Thank goodness I think that Dawn wrongfully gets on by people but I think that Dawn does very well I think Sherry Flames out at the merge the Brandon hand stuff is on comfortable I think that we talked about that enough that night I think I had it was Alex it was Alex and who was it Alex yeah it was definitely Alex I don't know right anyway caramon is not it's not an easy watch but it's fine it's fine I don't hate it as much as I used to it's fine it's oh Mony duh I oh it because Mony was at work that day and so yeah he had to leave halfway through that's why I don't remember it was Alex and Mony that I had on that night yeah so I think I think okay yeah we're good on that so that's it for the

7:35:00 The bottom 15 as far as Seasons go once again I'm gonna just add 46 to the list after I am done right now it probably like it's not going to be anywhere in the bottom 15 so you don't have to worry about that bottom 16 whatever Tim so it's t tein or T and soda it's t and somebody and I know Randy just sat here and did the boot order and I already can't remember oh well we'll figure it out as it goes through it's crazy because I've the conversations that I've had with okay perfect we might be being joined by folks in a in a few minutes so I won't start a new topic yeah we're H Liz let's we're about halfway we're nearing halfway through episode seven

7:36:21 Episode several and we know that like I said I can't remember if it's soda or Kevin that are the first the here definitely one of them though and I know that Tim goes home that's the last non jur that makes the merge okay so we're being we're being joined by our token jeans crew here coming a second Skyler and Tweety are going to be hopping in guess I should write down everyone that has HED in so far Ryan Phil Randy Abraham twe and Skyler okay here they come ah I cannot believe I know I keep saying this but I can't believe I've been doing this since 8:30 in the morning and it's about to be 4:15 in the afternoon

7:37:42 But we've made it work we've made it work y'all and yeah we're going to keep on going we're going to make it this is final 11 so next episod final nine is that right because you can't you can't do 12 Yeah final this is by the end of this is going to be final nine and then yeah so yeah we've got two more people hopping in here in a sec like I said yeah this is right around the time that I felt like most people would start hopping in anyway because everyone's getting off of work and yeah so here we go oh CL will Cox look at you gorgeous h

7:39:05 I'm trying to peek over my laptop read the subtitles I also could just sit up in my chair but like I am fairly relaxed right now so I really don't want to I'm pissed I don't know any of these tribe names like I said yesterday I stopped learning tribe names after like season eight every now and then there'll be a tribe's name that I remember you know like Matt sing all right here we go hello timing yeah how are you guys doing what's up do I do I mean I'm doing all right I'm just H like I'm just hanging out here and avoiding my workday so yes that's fair I am you guys can see the time right 7:40 okay yeah so yeah I've been doing been doing this long day it's been a long

7:40:25 Day it's been a long day currently we are on episode 7 titled episode several and we're about halfway through the episode inspiring so who's the boot in episode several this I think it's Tim and then it's either soda or Kevin and I can't remember okay so it's that double boot episode so this episode it was the one I wanted to pop in for crazy enough oh perfect I watched this episode live with Hunter so Hunter mcnight on season 46 from Mississippi and so I my wife and I drove two hours south and watched this episode live and you know there's portion in the like you know they separate into the two things and I mean at the moment I'm sitting there and I'm like oh my gosh this is terrible for him because he doesn't win immunity and he's been like dominated the pre merge I was I remember at one point leaning over to my wife and being like Oh my gosh Hunter is what if he goes out and we're here like and he has that he has that great Montage at the beginning of the episode of finding the idol this is his Peak moment in the season really

7:41:45 Because he goes home one an episode or two after this I think it's he I think it's the next it's yeah there's it is so Heaven than him yeah it's crazy because you know I think in the ear part of the Season well in the preseason Hunter kind of come across like people loved him he had that interview where he talked about Natalie white people were like oh SC seems great first part of the Season you know what's the other tribe purple tribe out literally right before you hopped in I sat here and said I don't remember any of the tribe names and then you guys hopped in it's like yeah I don't remember any of the tribe names is it yanu it's yanu the purple one and they were the they were the only I mean with new era for the most part I don't bother learning the tribe names at this point but though they them I remember just because they were the show tribe yeah but yeah Li and Lulu are the only two new era tribes I can name because they were the sh but hunter kind of like through the Primo just like oh man he's in this great spot kind of feels like he's on the UPC coming then he has this episode where he sits on the idle this alliance with Q really looks like great and then Tevin they BL Lind oh yeah he doesn't go out next episode because soda and Tim go out this episode then

7:43:05 Tevin then Hunter yeah and then next episode is really bad from Hunter and then his boot is even worse but the yeah but yeah it was crazy watching it live in person and actually there were some things that I felt were kind of inexplicable in like the editing of this episode that I had to like in person he was able to explain but yeah because it was like but this was one where I was really glad to pop in this one because I was like man this is a really major turning point for Liz Venus Charlie survives where it felt like Charlie was dead on the water you know it's like Hunter yeah it really this is a pretty important in terms of shaping the rest of the season both it's the same thing with like I would say the same thing with 45 and a few of the newer ER ones were it's like if the pre merge drags or the pre merge in this situation has a character that I just is just the worst it takes some time for it to gain its footing and I do agree with you I think this episode that it finally gains its footing I feel like in 45 it's Kelly no 44 it's after the

7:44:26 Matthew robbery that happened that's where the season picks up from there I wanted to get you guys' thoughts on I've been asking everyone of this because I know that this season seems to be very polarizing among the fans polarizing to me and Tweety have different opinions on this one I mean yeah but what is your question and then the question is where do you guys fall on it so I mean for me it's a weird season in that I feel like they're are good individual elements to it and indivi and there are like there are me there are people who are memorable there are episode there are me episodes that are memorable the everyone going out with their Idols I remember there was a Hu like I remember was like the mo seen as the most shocking thing ever even though it really does actually happen all the time the o like the O overall like story as a whole doesn't really go together for me so it's very I find like I find it just kind of mid or like or in like in between as Seasons go it is very CA like it

7:45:46 Is very chaotic for people who in like for people who enjoy that I don't know I'm conflicted yeah okay I was much higher on 46 part of it is the personal connection Mississippi has not had a Survivor since D and pearl Islands Island and then we get two in one season and we get Hunter and Q and not only that but you get two people that one that you know Q is a consistent character throughout but then Hunter kind of defines at least a large portion of the pre merge and right at the merge vote and stuff so it was really like I think the personal connection really drove it up for me I was able to watch two episodes with q in person and then one with hunter in person and so it was it was just really unique to be like okay I can watch like you know a good portion of the season with people in hindsight I think so Tweety and I one thing we always agree we agree on is that assess Seasons I do think largely comes down to the overarching narrative is more important for me than is each episode individually exciting definitely and this season had a lot of well the beginning is terrible like think that's an underrated aspect in like in evaluating this season is you know I've been watching I just finished season seven or season

7:47:06 Six the Amazon and I texted you guys some about that and then I we watch I watched I'm currently because coach Drew said I need you to go back Vana watu so I did and I'm on episode eight of van watu and an underrated aspect of a lot of the older Seasons that there's a pretty consistent like the premerge is watchable and enjoyable in its own right and then and this season it's like no there's like four straight episodes that are that you just about give up on like you're like okay I'm just about done with like I'm not sure I can continue that makes the season dip a little lower individually episodes like pretty high watermarks compared to season 45 I think is much more consistent across the board 44 is a little up and down but more consistent whereas this one's like really low but then a really big high but like Twitty said when you get the finale to me that feels like the finale is the thing that ties it all together do we get resolution to the overarching story lines and I don't feel in hindsight like I get that great resolution where you get the resolution maybe to the beginning to the end where Kenzie is integral to the beginning and then wins at the end but the Charlie Maria narrative is not fascinating until the last two episodes so it's not an overarching season narrative until the

7:48:26 Last two episodes Q is kind of the one thread that runs across the whole season and then he goes out right before the finale and it's kind of like there's just and I'm not sure that the editing and storytelling really helped us with Charlie Maria story really picking up at the end maybe we needed more of that at the beginning you know keny kind of at the beginning has shown all her powers at the beginning but in the middle I mean she's almost like a non-factor for three or four episodes and then I and then we're try and then you're like oh well she wins she's definitely a deserving winner but the editing shows so much of Charlie it just becomes a lot harder to hold I think I think that's why it's harder to place in my mind now I still think I really enjoyed it overall and that makes for a good season for me so I would still say it was good but 45 still stands to me as the high Watermark of the new era yeah for me it's 42 and 45 and then everyone yeah I those would be coach those are my picks as well like those are my picks as well those are the two seasons that I think have the like do have the most compelling long-term storylines that are the mo like are the most over like overall

7:49:47 Like fun throughout I great casttom it's funny I don't actually come to think of it I don't actually know if I hate the Prem merge of this season as much as you do I think I actually think the first two like I'd say the first two episodes of 46 well I think the premier the 46 Premiere I think is actually really fun just because that it like that is or really that in practice that's the jalinski episode I think it's very I think that one is very like is extremely memorable because of his it's kind of it's too soon to say but it feels like maybe one of the more memorable Premiere and first boots of all time well I mean the fact that several has was such a like it's one of those weird like I mean it one was an episode title six episodes after this guy was taken out and like anywhere in the Survivor community that phrase has become a running joke it's like one of those like culty ingroup phrases that we all have now because of this guy and like legitimately I actually glad he was the first boot in some ways because it allowed him to be this meme

7:51:07 But then in like in the post show like after he goes out like on Twitter everything he's like legitimately hilarious and I'm like dang right and not only that but he's the first foil to Q who seem S at the time in the premerge like you get later and you're like oh my gosh the show so that's why I find the show narrative is so compelling for Q and then he just goes out at the finale it's like his him not playing the idol does feel like a great wrap up to his story in manyways yeah but then it's like wait that was kind of the main thread we've been following him going from almost like he's saying no he's actually not he's actually the even May he's not as crazy as bonu but like but Tweety I agree I think the premier is good is pretty bad and then you get the Banu I mean episode two I was okay with but yeah the it really does drag with two episodes almost exclusively devoted to bonu I agree that's just rough randad when Randon goes so there's and I sat here and like talked it out as it happened Randon they come they show up to that beach with like 10 minutes left in the episode and about five of it is committed to like hey Randon you're leaving blah and it's like oh and in the back of my head I'm like I know that Jeff goes

7:52:27 Back to that with purple's Beach because I remember him basically letting bonu know you're not going home and I'm like wow they really commit five minutes to Jeff just telling this tribe they're not going to tribal and not only does that happen Bono gets three different confessionals in that five minute time frame and Q gets one randomly it's like why do we need someone in the chat earlier B has 35 confessionals in four episodes and Maria has 31 in 13 episodes that is insane it made her story unintelligible for you know you get this mean one of the most memorable people are gonna walk away from season 46 is Maria not or Charlie it's I mean it's still to me such an incredible it's why we love Survivor that it's so perplexing at the same did he freeze on you yeah on me okay TR if you want to go see if he comes back I mean I like going off of that I do very much agree that yeah the Maria Charlie stuff is like that's what all anyone remembered and was talking about after the finale I do know that there was some really

7:53:48 There was some really toxic like fan Behavior leveled at Maria because of that which is which was super unfortunate and like should really like these people like these people are on a show for our entertainment none of that should ever happen but it was I mean it was a weird storyline given that it like it decid helped decide the season but also neither like they're like they only ended up being interesting like because of each other like as individual characters they're like they're very like they're very normal like quote unquote game body types of people I don't I never found either Charlie or like neither Charlie or Maria I thought were like I thought of as great TV throughout the season I don't know what I like I like I remember you know Skyler you and I talked throughout we you know like as we were watching it all this play out and it's like I yeah K I was like okay Kenzie is the has an is the like is the underdog and is the most like rootable character that's being set up by the edit so on the one hand like I want

7:55:08 I guess I want her to win but when it ha like when it happened and just because of the like the Maria vote being as like being as weird as it was I'm like oh now that this actually happened I don't like do like I don't know if I want it anymore no and we talked about this earlier today like yeah does the Maria thing confuse me sure it does but that's where I leave it alone I leave it at okay it confuses me what a lot of other fans have decided now is yeah we're g to antagonize these folks now because we she didn't vote for our favorite person and so that must mean she must pay and it's and I this is the thousandth time I've made a reference to this today Survivor fans are slowly into Star Wars fans and I don't think it's slowly anymore I think they're just full on Star Wars fans the gatekeeping The Bullying the you know just not accepting things you know just get over it you know stop pestering these people and like both good and bad don't show up to Kenzie's job because you like that she won don't be weird it's it shouldn't be that hard of a concept right is everyone that I have had come on here it's not

7:56:28 Like I have some big betting thing but like I do make sure that y'all are like decent folks and are not GNA come on here and say how much you want Maria to you know pass away because she didn't vote for Charlie or something like that like yeah I trust y'all are you know coherent human beings that can speak even when you're talking about people that you don't particularly enjoy except for me like I will say oh yeah off Ben Browning or shanon or Russell that's different yeah we're going to pause real quick because I'm going to update my list okay so what I've been doing is throughout the day I've been up like I've been showing my ranking list now that now that I'm done so in number 29 we've got Survivor game changers it's a season that so this is how I feel game and I said this is like the first time that I talk about game changers today if they had just changed the name and not labeled it game changers I feel like people would not have looked at it as poorly because then it's just like oh yeah we're just watching a bunch of rando Survivor players that used to play and of course there's like a few winners and ser is there too instead you get

7:57:48 Game changers so you're already starting off on the bad foot a lot of the pre-merge boots are like where the entertaining characters are which is fine because it happens in Allstar 2 and I like people with big targets usually go home first people with big names go home first once the Varner thing happens the air kind of gets sucked out for a bit there but it catches his feet the two big problems with game changers game playwise are one I don't care this time around watching because I know sir is the one running the show and I know what's going to happen to in the finale and so I kind of check out there two and this is I would say but it's a negative if you're watching on TV is I hate big moves I hate that there's a narrative that you have to make big moves and in Game Changers everyone that made a big move got voted out the next round which fully puts into you know you people want your resumés and you want your big moves and all that and you see what happens when you do that I think that Sarah played it very well another thing that really sour the season for me is the that final tribal that a lot of those people were really pissed off

7:59:08 With Sarah and they were really show they're like laughing at her because she said she was making genuine bonds with and I'm like I why do you guys think that she's lying about that you mean you guys are all out here playing the game you know what this is game chers is not boring by any means it is it keeps my interest the entire time but overall you know it's still you know not in my top half it's just kind of a weak rury season and that's pretty much all it is you know it's Si's best shot at winning since Micronesia and it's still somehow she just can't I guess it's just impossible she has to be playing the traders to win anyone have any FS on game changers did he freeze again I don't know so I'm TR I haven't seen that season since it aired toh I haven't really bothered with it I just remember that it's one of those Seasons where it's just like cool there's another move made by somebody like you know one of the less notable people on the it like on the cast like I mean I would say it was I know a lot of people don't

8:00:29 Like a lot of people I know don't like Sarah because of like her beliefs off the show and whatnot which is fair I do think like I do think that the G that like she played a really strong game and other like otherwise yeah the SE like after the merge of season just like oh another one oh another one another but okay whatever like I like there wasn't a lot to really invest in entertainment Wise It's yeah it's pretty a I agree that the theme really like the theme really harmed it there are some other like if with newbie casts there are themes that you can try to that like you can try to make work and people are more willing to go along with it because we have it because we don't know the people but especially it's with this season it's like these people aren't game changers don't call them that or with say like with caramon like those aren't fans and those aren't favorites what are you talking about like yeah Shamar seems like a very big fan of survivors so like totally yeah can you all hear me good yeah you're good man yeah so yeah I just switched over to my phone because and turned my Wi-Fi off yeah I think

8:01:49 Game changers is it's such a weird one I think like you said I do think it's really harmed by having the game changers moniker on it I definitely think that's really harmful for it but also the cast is just weird so you get Second Chance like three seasons before that which is just an incredible cast top to bottom wow y'all really went for it here and then you're like so I'm sure people were hungry for another return ecast then you get an all return e season so you're all returning seasons in Survivor history are Second Chance Heroes versus Villains and All Stars at this point and then you get game changers and you're just like why Sierra Don Thomas who was clamoring for her return Halle Ford who was clamoring for the Halle Ford return and I think it's one of those moments where Productions favorites this was like really more like not All Stars this was like production favorites who are the people that we just like them and so that's azy for a fourth time right or I heard yeah I heard that apparently like CB CBS forced them to put Aussie on the cast apparently like Jeff and everybody didn't actually want like didn't actually want that to happen I mean to an extent all

8:03:09 Season if like all seasons will have some element of being Productions favorites but this one was to a weird like to a weirder and more extreme degree I almost wonder if because of that season they were from then on more careful about doing rury Seasons like they well then they start bringing back one or two people which is also I just not a fan of that iteration I mean there well I mean yeah I guess edge of Extinction happened which does which did not really which was also kind of all over the place but yeah they I mean the only other like full returning season they've had since then was winners at War which is I think very different than any of the others yeah it's weird I don't really I don't really think about that season too much it's there I think the problem I have with it more than anything is like it's not just that they brought back you know it's a weird cast but in the way the cast is formed it is it's not just that you know Allstars people don't like allst stars because they say the boot list you're the big names go out early and you're left with some lesser characters I kind of don't feel that when I watch all stars now because

8:04:30 All of them are big names now and you know big Boston Rob Amber you know these people that at the time you're like who now you're like oh these people are kind of like Legends of the game in their own right and so I don't but with the problem with game changers is not to me the boot order it's not that Tony goes out second and Malcolm goes out third and JT or something like that the problem is that those people were set up for failure no matter what like I it's almost hard to imagine Sierra not Sierra Don Thomas Sierra e Sierra East yeah Sierra East it's hard to imagine them actually going far in the game because it's like this cast was made almost to Doom the people you like you know like Sandra how is she supposed to get out of the pre she I mean this game is amazing from her because it's like yeah this is Sandra fanfiction because she's in control for until he gets the second that second swap happens J in full control game and I want to touch what like I want to let you continue but like I will always not Sanders should have been the first person voted out of this season they should have targeted her because she's now shown hey I have done this twice and they still haven't learned their lesson and she's two votes away from making the merge for a third time

8:05:50 Yeah say I mean that's what I mean it's like by doing that second Swap and everything you just feel like the second swap the you know the cast and who knows maybe if JT doesn't pull his weirdness at that one Tribal Council you know it Butterfly Effect Malcolm stays in the game you know it doesn't flip power there it's just but again the cast it's just it's just such a weird one I mean there's just no other way to say it's like there's so many other people from 21 through 34 but you know caram moan also very weird cast so it's like they na the one returning cast they nailed for in that whole time frame between 21 and 40 is the season the fans voted on it's like you know it's and even then there's some there's some yeah we get Monica Pia yeah but it's like yeah you still get I mean Cara mowen I'm actually saw that you know it's the one right before game changers I really don't like it some people really like it I actually one of my like least favorite seasons and you know and so yeah Game Changer is just a weird one but I'm glad to see it fall in here I'm about to have to leave but Andrew it's been great this was just so fun I could stay and hang out here for three hours and keep talking about it

8:07:10 But I'm glad that I'll leave Hunter and Q are still in the game and they'll just they'll live on in my Survivor memory who from 46 do you think has the best chances of being brought back Q's the lock q but who else yeah venis well if vus if she wants to do it again which she may not but who knows I feel like I feel like Charlie but even then like I'm not really climing for a Charlie one but I feel like there might other there might be other people that want it Venus I feel like is someone I feel like they might want to outside of that the biggest question there have been two big questions today and you can scroll up at any point the two big questions always been bonu and galinsky have they have any chance of ever coming back H and I've always said and I've kept on saying you know jalinski if they ever did a pre-merge versus post-merge game he would be the one Rogue first boot that's on that season yeah don't see ever they don't ever do that but yeah I'd say q and fenis Charlie maybe even Liz just give me give me a lot of these folks I think I think Venus is less likely than you two my

8:08:30 Think for me only because I don't think she has made fans with production after the show she's been you know very vocal and lots of fights with the cast but that's almost one of the reasons why I'd be interested in bringing her back in let's say three years for like you know oh you were 21 at the time and you know I'd be interested I like Venus actually I mean I not sure she's one of the she's a good villain I guess you should say I'm not on the show and but she's interesting I think I'm actually think she probably won't be she doesn't seem to be very high on her experience on Survivor either but she would say yes I think Q is the only one that's like yeah this guy is almost a guaranteed lock I think Charlie the problem with Charlie there's a lot of people in his archetype that's kind of like okay you're the nerdy white guy you know law student we've seen you a thousand times you're especially good I'd be interested in who knows maybe season 55 you know if there was like second chance but I'm not clamoring for it you know I wouldn't be disappointed to see him again but I'm not clamoring for it so yeah I agree they're like you could you could swap if I think about other people they might put on instead like I mean I wouldn't be surprised if they go with like Carson or I don't know Drew from 45 or someone

8:09:51 I wouldn't be surprised if they go with someone like that instead yeah but who knows yeah I think 46 is going to be one maybe even kind of like gabone in some ways where it's like this brought a lot of weird chaos and character moments but actually you don't end up seeing quite as many rurys as you think because you have to think season 50's rury 47 48 49 are going to loom very large in the collective mindset of like who to bring back and who not and frankly like 46 feels really big now but Q's kind of the only standout memorable well Venus as well like consistent across the season whereas I think 45 even 4 44 has like a big three that are really memorable and then maybe also like again yeah okay 42 really big I don't know it just seems to me there's a lot that I think have more interesting people but I gotta run see you guys all right SC thank you so much yeah to go off of that I mean I think part A lot of it does depend on just do people remember 46 however long from now because even there are

8:11:12 Like it is the most re like it is recent enough in my mind that I was a like that I was able to like I like jumped back on this stream having not seeing what's been happening and was able to pick things up but then again like what I year from now maybe not I like I anticipate it like I anticipate there will be I like I wouldn't be like if I had to put a number on it I'm gonna say the over under is like we get two people back Q is probably one of them yeah if you're talking New Era Survivor q and Jesse I'd say are like the folks so far I mean there's a lot of people that I feel like have a very strong chance I like those two are the folks and I'm glad that you brought up the whole you don't remember a lot and this is the thousandth time that I brought this up today I so the finale of this happened four days before I started the marathon so I this should have been somewhat fresh in my head and it's not like I started watching this morning and I'm like I

8:12:32 Don't remember I won't say half the C there's a lot of pre- mergers that I did not remember names or faces obviously I remember Bono and galinsky because how could you not but yeah this is this just ended in May and I've already forgotten I forgot the boot order I think it's the booty art is starting to come into the I think I understand I think I know where it is now I think so soda going home here it would be Tevin Hunter I don't know maybe Tiffany at some point yeah I think Tiffany is after Hunter I mean one thing that does help kind of keep it fresh in mind in my mind so I don't I mean I don't have a personal connection to any of the players the way like Skyler did as a Mississippian but I did go to a cou I did go to a couple of fan events while I was like while this season was happening I did go RHP had this live taping in like in Chicago where I live and a friend of mine had an extra ticket so I did get to go to that I believe that was that one was V that one I'm pretty sure was Venus's boot episode where that all happened but I did get to like I went to a Cubs

8:13:52 Game with a bunch of those like with a bunch of really like I want to say the majority of the 45 and 46 casts were there I and then there was an Afterparty at this like at this bar afterwards I got I was able to get photos with a handful of people and like it that wasn't and so I think I will always asso like I had never done one of those with a big group of Survivor players before so it was one of those so like that's one of the things I feel like I will remember personally but aside from some of the things you've other things that actually happened during the season that we haven't already mentioned like jalinski bonu the Maria Charlie vote the idols yeah other than that I don't know what I'm gonna remember like everyone knew that I was in love with Liz this season like to the point where my friends are like so I didn't watch the Apple be episode live I was at and all of a sudden my phone starts blowing up my phone starts blowing up they're like I hope you like Applebee's I'm like what the hell's going on and I start to realize okay these the people that are texting me what do they all have in common they all watch Survivor they all know that I love Liz

8:15:12 So I'm okay something happened with Liz that something Liz that dealt with Applebee so I get home I watch the episode and all of a sudden it's like oh okay yeah I get it I guess I and especially watching it today again after watching days I look forward to today so much because I got to see Liz on my TV again and I tweeted out about it because it's true and I think that this I think either you or Skyler just brought up the fact that Liz really like as the character really starts to be shown more that previous episode oh shoot I forgot to update H okay so on episode eight episode8 we started this about three minutes ago so 448 we'll go with starts at 4:48 PM EST we are an hour eight now geez Louise I cannot wait to be finished yeah oh did I send that twice just going through the chat the so the chat was like blew up a lot

8:16:32 This morning which I was surprised by because I didn't think that anyone was actually gonna wake up the ass crack of dawn to watch this with me thank you appreciated all right so Tweety as we as I start to rep I mean I still got five six hours left this season what are some of you because I gave a I gave a very hot take yesterday that like really ruffled some feathers or rustled some feathers I said that D's win de's winning game was better than pv's winning game H and I think people heard me say I think D is a better player than part whatever like that's all subjective what are some of your Survivor opinions that you feel like people might disagree with that is a great question I'm trying to remember what so responding that so like going off of that I mean I do think things very like things very much fell into place where like d got a really good like got a was very in control the end of that whole game and got

8:17:53 A ve like got a very like easy P it like you know not an like not an easy path like she didn't have to do anything to get there but like in terms of like there was not like there weren't a lot of holes to pick there except maybe except mainly that final five round was just a mess where no one was doing anything right in terms like I mean I after like I have to remind myself like what in terms of what my hottest takes are what the like what like what the Casual like what the casual and hardcore fans think would be most outrageous I mean going off of a like going off of the like the whole a like the whole Applebees thing and I see I like I do see what who it looks like Liz commenting hi but I mean I do think it's always funny the way like whoever happen like whoever happens to be doing whoever is On Any Given cast there's always somebody who has some story that's really tied into the pro like The Season's incoming sponsors I

8:19:14 I can it's to an extent that like you know like when they've done like when they have brought Applebees before they've had Applebees there before kishma had the I don't even remember what the story was that she shared but I know she had a really elaborate one or it's like they bring back Outback steakhous at for Heroes versus Villains where Sandra of course is like I my husband came home from war and this is where we eat like this is where we eat and I not necessarily alleging anything but that is fairly suspicious to me I don't know oh okay all right I see I know I see where you're going with that now I me for me it's been the same thing since I started watching the show what 25ish years ago you can't be robbed on a show like this like I know there's this perception that oh yeah so and so it's a Robb god or goddess or what have you and it's like all right well if we're all signing up to lie and do all of this and you know there's these idols and this that and the other at a certain point you know just because a jury doesn't vote for you does not mean that you were some somehow robbed of a win it just means the jury leave Liz Alone it

8:20:34 Just shows that you know the jury preferred this person the situation the majority of the jury prefer and I always go back to Samoa because I loved Natalie wees win that season because I don't like Russell H and if and I said this earlier Eric Cardone is my favorite jury speech of all time because I as a as a drinker one I can I can smell my own and I can tell that Erica is pissed drunk during that speech but two everything that he says even though he's a lot of the stuff doesn't make sense the how he says it with his chess and how he's trying to get to people's in people's heads saying hey just because Natalie is looked at as this doesn't mean that we should discredit anything that you know she's saying that she does and I think that Russell Hance is someone that just does not understand the concept of what this game is so there's no way that he was ever going to win I don't think you can be robbed and you know so thank you I appreciate the fact someone that's actually been in the and we you know Abraham said the same thing earlier players that you know other players that I have talked to in the past have said the same I rarely come across a player

8:21:54 That has said anything different I this is like the fourth time I've told the Billy Garcia story tonight but being Billy Garcia at the 43 finale he's sitting there saying you know gabler's gonna win and I'm like you maybe and we start Downing shots and after gabler wins I put me in Billy Garcia in my snap story and I sent out to everyone I'm like it's Billy Garcia's fault that gabler won and what I did not expect for people to start texting me back saying oh well Cassidy was robbed it's like okay I was just putting a fun video of me taking shots with Billy Garcia talking about Mike gabler and you guys are coming at me talking about that I don't partic yeah that's that is very that is more of that sort that cult-like fandom Behavior C like fandom that has gotten I'm telling you they are just like Star Wars fans now and it's insane how bad it has gotten in a lot of like I try to be as positive as possible or positive as possible with any Survivor player that I come across I rarely bring up their Seasons when I talk to them because I feel like they don't want to talk about that I would rather just talk to them as a regular human being which is what they are

8:23:15 The negative side of that is these people attacking straight up or showing up at people's jobs you know all of that and it's bothersome it's weird that the fans have really turned into what they are now because and I when Phil was on here earlier from The Specialist we talked about how this sounds so weird but the internet has been around long enough that at some point or another the fandom could have gotten crazy and it's funny to me that it took a pandemic and us coming back from a pandemic for the fans to immediately start going crazy and attacking every one of these players whether they are the most beloved players all of a sudden they you know they're going out saying oh you know Hannah Shapiro posted a thing in her snap story the other day or snap St her Instagram story the other day of people still on her from L vs Gen X and that happened eight years ago or something like that do you have any thoughts between I don't I don't know I the like one thing that I don't know if that is related at all

8:24:35 Is just the explo like is just the like new fan like the new fandom that came in after the pandemic and the fact that for example on casts like I noticed this especially with the 46 cast was that it was mainly people who got into the show because of the like who got into the show during the pandemic or it was like or who were or who talked in I remember I don't remember specific names but from the preseason a lot of people were like well my husband or whoever is a fan so and then I became a fan and then I was the one who got on the like who got on the show and I do and I mean I feel like that got that I mean whether how that ties into just general craziness hello like General craziness and whether people like whether people whether like the pandemic just with people's brains a little bit too much and whether the yeah and whether the like whether say like everything happening in this country right now is making everyone just angrier at each other about things about you know everyday things like Survivor it's a really weird

8:25:56 And complicated question I don't know I think you came in on we are currently talking about the crazy part of the fandom and how they've warped into Star Wars fans which I'm fairly certain me and you talked about the other day right probably I would I would yeah I feel like we've talked about that at least once or twice okay so before we move on I do want to continue with the updates all right what number are we at y'all game changers is the last one you announced all right so at number 28 we've got surv we've got Survivor 43 perfect timing Alex and Luke from idled out came on for 43 a couple days ago and it seemed like we were all kind of around the same Vibe as far as our opinions on it I ironically a lot of that turned into how much the fan the Facebook moms loved gaer and the Twitter fans loved Cassidy and how the roles were reversed for season 41 where the Facebook moms loved Xander

8:27:16 And the Twitter folks loved Erica now the only difference is you know the Twitter moms for Xander try to start gofund me to get this kid a million dollars because they felt so slided at the fact that he didn't win I Owen actually commented on the video for 43 I liked Owen and I talked about this earlier he we didn't give him as many flowers as we should have that episode because I feel like we did dwell a lot on the fan base because that season did get a lot of backlash from large portion of the fan base but for me what did I say 28 is Survivor 43 and it's we're now getting into territory where you know a lot of these things could be mixed up and I'm just going based off of you know watching it like this you know watching it through 46 days I just kind of put things in place how they make me feel throughout that day and how I haven't really changed much throughout it 43 I think that it's continues a very strong trend of casting since 41 I don't think that there's ever been a bad cast in this in this new era I do feel like some cast that I forget a pre merger or two and like that

8:28:36 Happens you know we're not I'm not one of these crazy super fans that remember you know people's star signs and all the colors of the Survivor Buffs and everything I remember people's names and usually placements War we ALS oh Alex I already know your thoughts on 43 so I want to I want to get to you for a different question Tweety what were your thoughts on 43 I mean it's somewhat SI I mean in a way it's not that far off from how I feel about 46 actually in that it's got like a handful of people who I remember like I remember like of course Jesse I remember very well the I like the like the move against Cody was a very memorable and impactful thing a lot of kind of what happened in the M like person by person it's a pretty all right cast but there it doesn't it doesn't full for me like really lead up to much of anything with the debate at the end I do remember being like I do remember being like okay well Jesse is the only one who I would like it feels like should win based on what we're seeing but if

8:29:57 We but I also sense that like okay Bas he probably will lose in fire so then we will get so then it's like I sort of I mean I surround myself with mainly the Twitter types who are like very defensive of say like the under the radar female archetype which was represented by Cassidy in this case so I was like okay I sort of internalized that and I was like okay I guess Cassidy cool I guess and then when gabler ended up beating her I was just like oh I like I wasn't necessarily mad at it I was just like I guess cool you know it was it like it does it is one of those Seasons that I feel like shows that yeah making B like just making big moves does not necessarily work and if everyone's doing that then a lot of the times you'll get like you will get a result with like the you know the three of the less like three of the less High win Equity people getting to the end and then it's for the fans that's comparatively eh think me Alex and Luke all said it was gabone

8:31:17 Esque as far as I it's better I'll say it like this the final three of 43 is a lot better than gabone because all three of them know how to defend themselves they I feel they all put on a great showing ask as far as you and a million years are not going to guess that it's these three that make it to the end and at that point it is it does kind of become okay well who are we standing as fans and who are these people that are sitting on the jury ones that actually matter who are they going to pick we've got one more person us I told everyone in the chat because at one point everyone had been coming in one at a time throughout the day and everyone's like oh why did why is only one person I'm like everyone's at work I'm the only one that's not working during the summer so we've got Jake I'm gonna get to you in just a second Alex I want to ask you a question are you allowed to have are you allowed to have Survivor crushes am I allowed to have Survivor crushes I mean sure I don't my girlfriend has surv you're asking as a as a newer

8:32:37 As a newer fan of the as a person that's just getting into watching more of the seasons who would stood out to you as a crush of yours in the earlier Seasons oh in the earlier Seasons well the seasons that you have watched it's tough cuz I don't like when I was watching the earlier seasons I wasn't really like watching him because of that I think I was OB I don't I don't watch it because of that I know I know I'm just saying I feel like the person that's had like the most like lasting impact on like I really enjoyed them I want to like see him again Kelly from Africa and I was always like really up and I was always really upset with the way that she got out because it was because Lex is a baby St Lex is a baby yeah and Lex doesn't change much in all stars but I don't I won't go down that tangent again Jake as the I've I've alluded to you all day and I'm glad that you're finally here yeah you are not high on this season at all no which i' I've kept it in for a very long time what why and keep in mind I think

8:33:57 You're sitting with at least two fairly big fans I'm fine but what is it about this season that does it do it for you I think just the cast I feel like the cast like they were deliberately trying to cast people who were bad at Survivor to be on this season I mean you get a bunch of people like jalinski like bonu who arguably should not be in the season and they are just set up to be those early boots and one thing with the new era is they're setting up One Tribe to be that train wreck tribe like they want one Tri to just lose over and over again and they done it for six seasons in a row basically so it just sucks for that reason and like there's multiple other reasons but I just didn't like the cast as much as other seasons and so it just and like how multiple people didn't play Idols because they just I mean I felt like that was that added for me that added to the what would be the word the unpredictable nature of what was going to happen next I like I understand that like yeah it sucks that happened like that but I felt it made it more entertaining like oh after a while it became a meme of its own of

8:35:17 Maybe next week someone actually will play something the correct or will play something period and when it doesn't it's like okay well they're not going to let this happen again it's Buffalo Bill syndrome of okay well surely in four years they're going to pull off one of these Super Bowl wins because they've gone to the Super Bowl for four years in a row and it doesn't happen like that Jake I think the big thing for me was I think you had 46 at the bottom of your list I have it third worst it's above Thailand and island of the idols wow which is why is it not as good as Redemption Island or Worlds Apart or Nicaragua well so I think I like a couple people on those Seasons like Nicaragua I am a Marty pambo fan Redemption Island was my first season ever somehow that got me into the show so I have at least some connection to it but I still think it's a bad season like I'm not going to like sit here and defend Redemption Island but yeah Alex's yeah I just got to head off though oh okay all right Alex thank you thank you thank you all right

8:36:38 That and that's fair that's I said this at the beginning of this you know like what you like don't be a dick and all that and you have like I've never like actually come at you with that kind of stuff because everyone have their opinions God forbid God for forbid people have opinions on the show and I think that the reason and I mentioned this to Tweety earlier and the reason you know with you I've I do pick and choose who I want to have on had to have on during this whole process and I really didn't want to have anyone on that I felt like was going to be overly problematic or just say things that are just inherently false and even if I disagreed with them and there's a lot of people that I disagree with that I Pat on because it's it adds to so fun banter J right and I feel like you know you know someone that reached out to me one I was doing 42 and 42 a few years ago you know I could have you know I was glad that we were able to touch base because I do feel like you've been you've been a great asset to both of these and hopefully both of y'all come back for 50 in two years and I'm like I'm really thankful to you know that to that both of you

8:37:58 All have been able to come around even though yes I disagree with the 46 thing but it's all right like it's all it's fine you have Thailand as your number one then we're all good yeah like I will to respond to what you said Jake I will say like I mean I agre I actually do I do agree that 46 was a lower level of gameplay there's a I think there was a lot of people who didn't there's a lot of very questionable stuff happened in terms of what PE like what people were doing I would say that kept it from like that's like I would say that didn't that didn't make it a bottom tier season for me I still thought there was a lot of entertaining individual stuff along the way but it's yeah it's not going to be one of those like this is like I never thought to myself like this is really Peak Survivor it just felt like okay another very wacky sort of version of what we had been getting with new era Survivor yeah all right so update we are about 26 minutes into episode 8 we are eight hours and 40 minutes into the live stream we I should Hop Off by the way all right tweet thank you so much for stoping say hey this is

8:39:18 It as always it's this has been a blast thank you we'll talk again soon man later Jake you're just in time to hear my number 20 what was the last one I did oh number 27 so at number 27 let's see we've got this season number 27 we've got Survivor 41 Survivor 41 is very nostalgic for me you know I talked about it a couple of days ago I remember where I was when the season aired I remember what I was doing I remember just everyone in that and yes will 41 potentially drop the next time I do this yeah whatever but right now you know it for me it's I remember the cast because I remember when the cast was announced how much I just wanted to care about everything going on Survivor wise because of all the we had just gone through you know the previous year and for me like I watching it this time I was looking for the Erica edit and you know they're it's very apparent you from the beginning hey these people are trying to throw challenges to get rid of this woman they keep calling her a threat there is a situation

8:40:38 In the final where Xander is so sure that Erica is has no chance at beating him it's like well you're a fool and the jury kind of says hey I feel like you know out side of Ricard Erica was the threat left in that game and the fact that she was able to just sit at the end like didn't have to do fire or anything and just have to sit at the end I think that is a credit to her as the game player and yes she falls into the Alexis Jones category of we keep hearing that this person is a threat we're not seeing it but we know that the players that are out there are saying it which means they're they have no reason to lie about it which means it's probably true a light can finally come on what do you think about 41 well so I know when we did 42 and 42 I was on for 41 so I had my thoughts there I think maybe with time if I whenever I go rewatch The New Era at some point then maybe like my opinions on 41 will go up slightly but I think it was just the editing at the time and just like the production stuff because production screwed up 41 more

8:41:58 Than the players did the player the cast is good like it could have been just shown better and like it's not like you said it's not like they didn't give Erica credit from the other players we didn't see them giving her credit with like her own edit and what she was saying because we didn't get to hear talk about her game really until what like towards the end of the game so hey John hello we I just did my 27th R season it's Survivor 41 John do you have any thoughts on 41 was never going to live up to anyone's expectations like we're coming off of winers at War which was incredibly hype season plus we're coming off a year off from Survivor so no matter what they did it was never going to live up to anything I haven't Revisited any of the new era since they it originally aired at this point so I'm really interested to hear your thoughts on those Seasons Andrew but unfortunately it was just an instance of Survivor trying to do too much when all they had to do was give us the tried andrue formula because we had been without it for a year yeah

8:43:19 I think that's and I and I've talked about this a lot over the last few days especially talking in the new era how the signs of all of these advantages and all these twists start pre 40 they start around 30 31 where it's like oh we're gonna add this time or we're gonna do this time or we're gonna have two tribe swaps during this season and then I think it all just came to a head at 41 and at 41 it just they just it's here you go but we're not going to do both swaps we're just going to give you all these twists we're gonna give you all these advantages and we're just going to see what you what you can do like 26 days does not bother me what bothers me about it is you're adding all of this in a short amount of time that everyone kind of feels rushed to do certain things and it and it speeds it up in a way that you kind of you feel bad for them and it doesn't help that they are trying to starve them now because hey if you're going to play 26 days we want to make it harder for you so you don't you're not allowed to have food you can't have Flint you can't have a machete none of that unless you to win this first challenge overall you know like I said 41 is 30 or 20 whatever on this list I would say that watching it this time around

8:44:39 I am still wearing it with nostalgic goggles but by the time I do 50 and 50 maybe it'll change now we have juliia see everyone in the chat once again I told you people would just be hopping in some people work some people work Andrew some people work I know I told the people they were like oh yeah why has there only been one person that's been in here I'm like because everyone's at work I'm we slow we on the endurance challenge of season episode 8 of season 46 we are 8:45 into the stream Liz showed up in the chat so like my life is complete we had Abraham come on earlier we've had Phil Brian we've had Tweety Randy Skyler and now we have Alex and now we have the three of you once again y'all thank you so much for hopping on for the seasons that you did Julia I'm 146 right now and I do want to talk I want to get your thoughts on 46 what did

8:45:59 You think my thoughts are I only watched one episode of 46 and the random merge New York City party you dragged me to wait a minute that was it oh because it was boring oh my God okay well you're okay your team J that's your team Jake right I season 46 and I think the way it all ended up breaking out in the end I think this is a season that yes it has this it drags a bit in that two episode Arc where we have the bonu story in the Prem merge but other than that this is one of the most chaotic and entertaining cast we have had ever in Survivor not just in the new era and it was electric it was so much fun to watch because you never knew it was going to happen there was so much chaos going around this was essenti gabone with the people liking each other just a little bit more and knowing how to play the game just a little bit better but I always say when it comes to Survivor I don't want to see Seasons where people are steamrolling like yes I enjoy one world probably more than most people do because I do think it is this great example of how Kim plays the game but I don't want to see that I'd rather see a bunch

8:47:19 Of people on very equal footing and playing the game whether they're good at the game or bad at the game if they are all generally the same skill level they are going to provide excellent entertainment and when you mix that with fantastic characters like 46 does you just have a recipe for success I couldn't have said better myself Emily thank you for joining we actually I your message has popped up on my phone I know I should have given you more warning that's my bad hey guys who are you people hello Emily well I guess we'll start with you with this question so out of all the five players that out of the five players that have voted out with an idol in this season which is the most egregious I love that word like which was the most massive blunder oh okay hold on okay it's been a minute since I've watched this season now I feel like we've lived so many lives since then give me okay so what's the roster of everyone who's lost them I have to make sure I ranked them in order of so Hunter Tiffany Q Venus and H I don't know I'm my I'm torn my heart's torn because like I feel like Hunter was one of those people who truly had any like he

8:48:39 Was one of those people where I was like well if he played that one just that one time he probably would have made it to the final three at that rate because he's just like Mr Wilderness you know but like Tiffany like TR hers really broke my heart you know I really felt like she was just one of those people that really like socially really could had the World by a storm you know that's how I feel okay I mean anyone else want to ask the question Julia Hunter voted out with that's the episode that she saw I'll say Q because I mean I think q and Hunter both knew that their names were out there and still didn't play their Idols like if I hear my names out there I have an idol I might just play it just to ensure that I'm not getting voted out with it in my pocket it's literally the last one of the last times you can play it and he just didn't play it when he knew his name was out there so see I actually kind of defend Q not playing his Idol in this situation because of the how close he was with Maria in that instance and the agreement they had right like he was at a point where he was like if one of the two of us win the next immunity idol or the next immunity challenge I can play this for the other one and we both make it to Final Four and I understand that logic there is it putting the cart before the horse

8:50:00 Sure I think the most egregious one is Venus by far because by that point you have seen two other people blindsided with Q is the decoy vote and you're still getting the q's the decoy vote here like it makes no sense and especially because Venus had been that person who it was very clear from an early point was the easy vote for people just to agree to vote out and it's much I love Venus I think she was a phenomenal character I think she was kind of that over strategic player here who's like screaming at the clouds and is trying to present logic to everyone when everyone's just kind of vibing and having a good time it's frustrating but the point of the matter is like Q's out there as you know oh we let's get rid of Q let's get rid of Q at what point do you have to look at Q and be like is this man ever winning the game and like there's been some you know discussion about whether or not the perception on the island was he could win the game but if that's the case if Q can win the game doesn't that mean you could probably win the game too if everyone hates you too like you have to think of it that way and one of the biggest mistakes people make in Survivor is not realizing surviving a vote can win you the game like all you have to do is survive one for the tables to turn especially in the new era where you don't have three

8:51:20 Days between each immunity or each Tribal Council to reposition yourself and everything I think one of the biggest detriments of this 26 days is that people don't get a chance to adjust to blindsides and accommodate new information they're given if you look at 45 when Caleb goes home he has like 10 hours to like adjust and it's a split it's a split Tribal Council so he's like in a completely new scenario that he can't really get himself out of after using his shot in the dark right so in it's like you just have to assume when the game's going this quickly people are going to take the path of least resistance venish should have realized that was her at that point Emily we didn't ever get a chance to talk about this season we did what did you think about it so okay so I honestly I jumped into the tail end of the conversation of bonu first of all hot take I eat bonu up I thought that he like I don't know if he would have gone the distance per se as a competitor but as a character he gives me like very much like chat but like with a with a bigger personality Vibes if his personality was on fire you know you know he's someone who like I feel like every really gravitate to anyway

8:52:40 Yeah I don't know I was just thinking about Chad earlier as I normally do every day but you know how like people just remember Chad like I feel like people are just gonna kind of remember bonu like you know what I mean that is true I really liked this season like for me I think that it's going to go down as that season that really causes like a bigger like bigger waves like so for me like No One's Gonna second guess you know when if they should play an idol they're going to play it I think it's gonna cause a little bit more that of that impulsivity which I'm really excited to see come 40 several am I right sorry I had to what else did I want to say I really thought that the casting they finally have it down to a tea I've been mentioning that like earlier like I think were kind of trying to find their footing at the start like really looking for super fans but like a super fan doesn't make the show like the like I think that it's more like it's more of being a fan but also being like being the competitor you know so it's really hard to find that balance and I think they've really found that as well so like for me 10 out of 10 eating it up I'm I love the season also I love it because I did a sorry I'm still talking I did a fantasy league this year there was 24 people on it and guess who came in first me it was really exciting so that's why

8:54:00 I brought I brought that up earlier I brought it up about six hours ago yeah c k Ken was getting a lot of Kenzie was getting a lot of content and I'm like I think Emily picked her or if she didn't pick her she said that she was going to win heck yeah I picked her heck yeah I did it's funny because you brought a Banu and everyone's kind of brought a Banu and I'll bring up this conversation that I had with myself four or five hours ago the first four hours of the Banu show were not fun and it didn't help that in that time I had one person join in the middle of it and Phil thankfully joined the episode after bonu got voted out so I was able to like shoot the with him for a bit how cool B on a rewatch it's it's the only Annoying it only becomes annoying during the Randon metac episode yeah because there I went on this tangent already but there were 10 minutes left in that episode when Jeff shows up on the beach right he already got a lot of bonu content up to that point because he's already ratted out everything that's going on in his tribe we get there Randon is back Evac with like five minutes left in the episode and then Jeff

8:55:20 Goes to the purple tribe it's telling him hey you guys don't have to go tribal and we get three different bonu conventionals and one Q conventional in that time frame it's like why don't we need all of this and then EP is where theil kind of went in the coffin for me is when he's on his knees begging Tiffany not to vote him out and I'm just like I don't I don't get it I don't get it but it's thankfully it goes away after episode four and I can carry on the season and the season does I for me it picks up that picks up for me the second merory episode because now we get two merory episodes instead of one it really picks up for me there John if you had to pick a couple people from the season to come back for 50 who would it be I slammed up q number one like easy Q he is one of the best characters we've ever had on Survivor I think he is so entertaining he is so crazy and just you know he could go anywhere they and they like one of the craziest things about Q is despite the fact that he seem to be

8:56:40 Rubbing everyone the wrong way you could still see that winner potential in him and I think he has gotten this out of the way and can kind of focus in a game and I'm really interested to see how he would play a second time I think it would be really interesting I think Charlie would be very interesting coming back after losing so closely at the end of this season that is someone who I think has a lot to prove especially because from an edit standpoint he had a great edit he had I would dare say like a Winner's edit going in which was great because it's fun you get to the end and you don't know there no such thing as winners at it no not at all but that's the thing is like he it's edited in a way where it's like you could see the potential of him winning and then you know we were all we were all thrown for a loop when the results of those votes came in but I think the two of them I think Venus again like I Venus again one of my favorite characters this season I think she is just this brand of villain we haven't had for a long time and when we go back and we look at you know the type of archetype she fills it was something that survivors straight away from for a while and now we get back there and I also think like Maria comes in

8:58:01 As like this clear front runner in the finale and you know the writing's on the wall she's gone as soon as she loses that final immunity but that's another one of those like big what if stories right like if she gets to the end does she win the game or is there something going on especially because there does seem to be some animosity between her and Charlie so I think when you look towards the end of this game there are just so many characters Tiffany also phenomenal game player would love to see her back this is I think season 46 is one of those ones that makes a returning season like the impending 50 so difficult to cast because you don't want to you can't oversaturate we've seen that with almost all of our rury Seasons where they have that one season usually right before that takes up a lot of slots in it people from 46 are going to get snubbed and people are not going to be happy about it I agree with you they're going to get snubbed for 50 I think that there's let's say Survivor goes on until at least 75 I think that 46 45 and 42 have a very big chance of getting a fair few of their people brought back in their for 50 I do feel like 46 might catch the

8:59:22 The most snubs it might just be cute which like I'm fine with that like he is the character but yeah similar to like Australian Outback where Australian Outback I think it still has the record for most people that have come back from the season because it's half of the cast yeah and then I think the next ones would be what yeah I think that there are a fair few of these new era Seasons that could would fall into that category and I really think that because of covid and I brought this up earlier David versus Goliath is probably the one that's always going to be snubbed the most because yes I feel like there's going to be at least one or two people from That season on 50 but I don't think past that they're going to get many more than two people coming back for another rury season David R Goliath when it first came out you could make a case for damn near half of that cast but if we're being realistic eight of them and now I feel like we probably get three or four of them which socks I know that has nothing to do with anything other than the world ended so we kind of had to but I even feel

9:00:42 Like the thing with 50 is and someone brought this up earlier if they're going to put a title on it better be not it better not be game changers s because if you if you put a title like game changers on a season you better hope that everyone on that cast is mostly looked at as a GameChanger if you do something like Legends or anything that has a title that everyone that's watching is going to look at and say hey this is everyone that is here falls into this category you better hope that the cast that they have fit into that because even Second Chances yes the fans voted on it and second chances I love this that and the other when you look at the ballot though it's like okay I feel like they're grasping at trust with a few of these but it doesn't matter because t- Bird's gonna make the cast because that's crazy if T does make the cast Shane's gonna make the cast because been insane if Shane doesn't make the cast no and then so when people are like oh yeah it's people just didn't remember tbird or Shane it's like and they remember Jeff Barner and Monica like relax that's a hor media presence right like that's the thing with a fan vote is it's Whoever has the most poll on social media

9:02:02 Yes okay just doing a quick update we are 50 minutes into episode eight so I think they're going to tribal now this will be the Tevin boot yeah correct okay so this will be the tein boot and then we start we start our bang of people getting voted out with Idols the episode that me and Julia went and watched in New York City was the hunter vote out and a fair few of them were rooting for Hunter to survive I for me it was always as long as it's not Liz I don't give a who gets voted out y'all to this I've had water I've used the bathroom once and I had two sandwiches today I at this point I'm probably not going to get up and do anything else so I'm in it for the next what I say episode eight so what do I have five more episodes so I've got about five fiveish more hours to go I'm honestly I'm not burnt out yet

9:03:23 Which is insane I should be but what do we want to talk oh no I know what we need to talk about I need to go ahead go ahead and say what you're gonna say I was gonna ask you because you're probably one of the only person who has watched one of these like hour and a half seasons on a binge at this point how's it feel in a binge compared to the hour long oh God it's so bad it's oh it's so hard because well so yesterday I forgot that they were 90minut episodes and thankfully instead of 43 minute episodes without commercials is an hour and four minutes yeah so I'm still able to finish in a reasonable amount of time what I really started thinking about though is today it's like today I can't take any breaks and I have to just watch this all the way through and it's exhausting because the first two episodes are two hours right so the first two are two hours and so then I you know I didn't zone out for any of it because I'm looking at a camera and if someone hops in I don't want to look like I'm bored and it's not because of the season it's just because when you binge watch it like this it becomes a lot it becomes a lot and so yeah I would say that I

9:04:44 I'm not looking forward to 50 and 5050 because I'm have to spend the last five days watching 90 minute episodes but that's why I'm taking a break next summer and you know having a personal life for once yeah okay so we're going to get to the next thing on the list so this will be number 26 so at 26 there we go we've got Survivor edge of Extinction which for me is underrated underappreciated from a cast standpoint I think from a cast standpoint I really enjoyed most of the people here I know that people like the claims the Rick Devon show but like it isn't I feel like Victoria Prem merg is a lot of fun she kind of Falls you know behind at the merge I feel like Ron is a fun villain he's a he's a very fun villain and the fact that he's able to vote get voted out with Grace whatever that means I feel like ream On The Edge at obviously a lot of entertainment to it I think that big Wendy is a very fun character I don't consider you raising the sale as a quit but whatever and I feel

9:06:04 Like Chris Underwood and this is don't worry I'm not gonna say some crazy take I feel like the defense for Chris Underwood is always going to be he did exactly what he had to do to win the game in the season that he was in and that is something that Natalie Anderson couldn't do I yeah Chris Underwood played what 12 days or whatever but a win is a win and he did what he had to do he took Rick Dev the fire edge of Extinction you guys have thoughts yeah so I have this season in the teens in my season rankings I think for me it's like 17 or 18 or something I if I had pick like a train wreck season where just wild stuff happen I would probably pick edge of Extinction I think part of that is also like you have returning players in here with the newbies but the newbies like are actually get all their attorneys out like their newbie cast is pretty smart like I think this like you said Drew I think this is a really strong cast so and I don't think if they didn't get all the returning players out I think like you know then maybe that would show maybe their weakness as a cast but that happens it shows

9:07:24 Off how good of a cast it is John I love that extension I think this is one of the like you said I think this is one of the most underappreciated Seasons I just looked at my Survivor rankings I currently haven't ranked at 27 I don't think I've updated this is the last time I watched the season and I think it is much higher I think it's actually pretty close to like a top 15 season like where you have it Jake maybe even higher this is a season that is on first watch as you're watching it live has that kind of a foul taste to it because it's like is Chris a good winner I don't know did he really play the game he did have to play the game and like yeah we could say he played the game for 12 days he didn't he played the game for 39 days because the edge of Extinction is still part of the game and that's the big thing you can only play the game that is presented to you right you can only play with the subset of rules that are there are phenomenal characters from top to bottom in this like I don't know how we get a character like the on our screens but we did and he's so entertaining we have the story of like the lesu tribe and that entire post March is wild things going all over the place some phenomenal live tribal councils which I know is kind of you know a taboo word when it comes to the Survivor fandom nowadays but this season has the

9:08:44 Best of them it has people to root for it has people to root against it has people again as we're closing in on the end of this season not sure who's going to win there are so many potential winners and it's great yes there's a front runner in Devin but dude was also voted out of the game and came back in like is he still going like if he had gone on to win would he have still gotten the Flack that Joe got or that sorry that Chris got I don't think so also Chris went on to The Challenge USA and what afterwards like this is a man who clearly is a competitor and knows it has what it takes to win reality TV and let me tell you he was one of my favorite people on that season just watching him play he's fantastic and it's a shame that because of the proximity to winners at War he wasn't able to come back for it because they would have because his casting on it would have spoiled the season so they couldn't bring him back for it unfortunately he figured out the edge he figured out the Twist and he did exactly what he needed to do to win the game we can't condemn a man for playing the game with the rules of the game yeah and well and not even that I forgot that he almost

9:10:04 Wins the first battle back if Keith doesn't put all those things on Chris at that first battle back Chris probably comes back instead of devans and then We're Off to the Races the other way and I that your point about if Devin wins do people get I use the same exact excuse because I say oh yeah Azie comes back in South Pacific or if Tina comes back in Pearl island or Burton or not Pearl Burton Pearl Island Tina and blood versus water would people treat that as they treated Chris and I would say no I would I don't think that they would do that I don't know what it is about Chris because Chris has not even come off as hatable in the season no he comes off quite a likable guy in the long run of things and I think that he you know big moves and all this stuff and I've said when we had I when I had Alex and Luke from idled out on for 43 I talked about how there are only two winners in the history of the show that like really did all of the big moves and still won the game and it's Tony and Kagan and Chris and Ed of extinction because he came in the game and did or he came back into the main part

9:11:24 Of the game and did all the big moves in order to put himself in a situ his best chance at winning the game and I do think that Gavin did pretty well in like that's I think Gavin play played well I think because he kept trying to attack the edge while they were there like during final tribal you're kind of antagonizing your entire jury here because you didn't have to do it yeah read the room we all just live there don't on what read the sad has a Ed Extinction has a great cast in my opinion I wasn't thrilled with the twist but as you said the twist is still part of the game it's not like they went home and then came back yeah that would have been okay I would have been against that would have been weird I think one of the things with the edge of Extinction that I find fascinating once I remember what it was again because I had it there and then I crossed my mind there what was it I don't know I will I will think of it again I promise stop in the okay they're voting now thank

9:12:45 Goodness why does soda gave t a look oh no soda gave soda gave oh I saw was a skin wait soda still there no she on the jury oh on the jury okay yeah that makes sense let's see how much time is left in this one we got four minutes left in this one the I remember my thought I remember my thought now on this okay go ahead go ahead so the thing that with the Ed of ex that I don't think a lot of people understood going into the finale of that season the people on the edge cannot disclude someone who went to the edge because that means they have no chance of winning the game yeah the game mechanic itself makes you have to consider the person who comes back unless you're like well if I came back I guess you shouldn't have voted for me either and I think we see that a little bit more when we get into winners at War and the edge returns but that's the philosophy you have to take in there of course you have to be willing to vote for the person who comes back otherwise there's no point in the edge of existing in the first place yeah and then of course there will be the smartass that says yeah you're right there's no point to the edge in the first place it's like yeah okay but it

9:14:05 Does but it does which twist was worse Ed extinguisher when they brought back the previous players in a super early season oh the TST The Edge because they try to kill them out there yeah the edge in my opinion is worse than the outcast twist I actually really like the outcast twist as the con as a concept so I think one of the things that make us think the edge is a worst twist is how much time the edge took up in the edit of this season which I actually enjoyed this time around yeah there's you get like this interesting harrowing convers I mean obviously you have ring I don't think there's a more perfect person to be the person on the edge of Extinction the entire season than re daily she just delivers with that bitterness she has for literally every person who comes but also that you know desire to keep going despite being there the entire time I green DA has played probably the hardest game of Survivor that anyone has played in American Survivor hands down and it's so entertaining watching her journey and yeah she rubs people the wrong way and not everyone will really appreciate what she can bring to the screen but she

9:15:25 Has that type of persona where if this was Keith there from the beginning and like nothing against Keith as a character or anything like that it wouldn't have held the same weight that having Rene there all the way through talking to every sing especially once we get into the merge and the rest of the lus start coming in like that's the moment where re really start shining again on the edge because she's just like leaning into them and how much they voted her out when it was like 20 days beforehand yeah she's still sitting it well and what's funny about when they comparing the two like the outcast twist and Edge is when the edge when the players are coming back Jeff says to the people that are in the game before they the first time you know every now and then in Survivor history there's things that like and it's like and things you've never seen before and then he says come on in and they all stroll in and I'm just like no they did that in PE islands like the exact same thing the exact you all they all March in together I found that weird it's the revisionist history once again because the other part of revisionist history in that season is when war doog is talking about in how in every other rury season

9:16:46 If there's a rury there they sit at the end and he goes to name every season that has a rury on it with the exception of Guatemala because even War doog doesn't remember Guatemala at least at least it's still like is in line with what he's saying though yeah yeah the other thing about is for me if your name's going to be War doog you should be some type of physical threat then the throwing meme is so it's so fun all right I'm just typing in episode n okay starting episode 9 at 5:52 PM EST what would that end I actually need to get going so thank so much man oh of course always a pleasure looking forward to joining you once again for 50 and 50 yeah on the specialist Phil plugged earlier but follow John and the specialist they're doing phase four now pH five yeah you did Quantum Mania Jake's covering the X-Men

9:18:06 Movies at this point right yeah we're doing Deadpool one and two the next couple weeks right before Deadpool and Wolverine so all right so John thanks so much man thank you very much everyone enjoy the rest of 46 this the riot at this point is where it starts hiden really fun I agree Jake comment does it start to get fun I'm not as fan of this but yeah I didn't get a chance to talk to Liz while she was here sadly oops but no that was that was great all right so this is the Hunter episode my winner pick really he was my winner pick and then like I was just like as soon as this boot episode happened and I was like Hunter really not gonna play as Idol and I was just yeah no I was very disappointed that's fair I don't know I don't know where I had him in my preseason I know my winner pick I think was either Mariah or soda they pretty much go back to back is right and then after a while I think I was pulling oh I mean once the season started

9:19:26 I was pulling for Liz but like oh I knew once cound his he was toast I didn't think that was the case I thought at some point someone was going to play it correctly well not play it correctly just play it yeah which I guess which would be worse playing it incorrectly or not playing it at all playing it incorrectly like if you know your name is out there like even if you're not getting the majority of the votes I would still say that's better than going home with it in your pocket yeah I feel like that was a softball question but what can you do I'm nine hours and 20 minutes to this I'm at the point where I've asked the same questions and I've talked about the same things and most of them aren't even 46 related I've had so many discussions today on the fan base that you know I think there was like two episodes where I just didn't talk about it Jim making your tribe dig to the tree was kind of fun yeah it was it was fun I guess we can do another season let's see what's next what's next

9:20:47 Is so I did Edge Extinction okay so number 25 here go this season number 25 is Survivor 44 for me I like kumbayas I don't need to come kumbayas every season I think that 44 and 45 back toback being kumaya was fine with me I really liked that even though they were all playing the game hard they still respected each other I do feel like pre merge wasn't I mean it wasn't horrible but I did like turning it on the other day I did forget that some of those people existed so there was that which I guess kind of drags it down for me but like once the merge hits once they get once the Matt Matthew which one was the younger one Matthew Matt blankin the one with Franny yeah okay so yeah once his episode happens I think the season picks up from there because he does kind of end up in a situation where he's kind of screwed so he goes and I think the season get becomes way better

9:22:07 You know Franny establishes herself as this challenge Beast you know you've got Jam Carson and Carolyn and you know at some point these people are going to have to get rid of them right and then it's only at final four where Heidi gets rid of Carson that it's like okay well she basically just did what Natalie did in and wners at War where like yeah you your goal was to break up this Alliance and you did you just did it way yeah too late because yeah she got rid of Carson and she sits next and you know at that point I feel like the three of them all have a great performance good to great performance as far as final tribals are concerned I do feel like the fact that jam was able to get them to laugh yeah through a lot of it I do feel like the fact that Carolyn was able to just tell her story and it seemed like it was really resonating with a lot of people out there I feel like Heidi telling her story was really reson I don't think there was I think that they voted for Jam but I don't think that anybody would have hated if any of the three of them had won fans and players alike I don't see that as a final three where people are just like I can't believe that this happened

9:23:27 You have any thoughts on that yeah so I mean I was roting for the tik3 the entire season so I wasn't disappointed by that 44 I think is my second highest New Era season I think it's like lower 30s so or higher 30s I think like 31 or something I'd have to look but I enjoyed the storyline enough where it carried the season and I was entertained more of the time car is just a fantastic Survivor character it's going to be fun to see her on the Traders season three and have her deal with Tony and Boston Rob and then like I don't know maybe her and Jeremy can work together I mean that'd be cool so with the Traders this time around because Boston Rob has been in the reality TV sphere since 2003 MH I feel like a lot especially because we've seen now two seasons where a lot of these folks don't know a lot of these Survivor players and what they're like because Rob almost transcends Survivor because of everything that he's been on yeah if he's not a traitor he's dying first because if you get rid of him no one's going to suspect that it's anyone like you can get rid of Boston Rob and no one suspect anything it's like okay yeah we got rid of Boston Rob

9:24:48 Right what if and I think that once he's gone I feel like no one outside of people that watch vior are going to know Carolyn Jeremy or Tony and I think that puts him in a good spot yeah I agree I mean it's it'll be interesting to see how they play together or when they get rid of each other so yeah I agree with that comment but I think at hour 10 I'm going to post another hey just another Milestone hey we just hit hour 10 which I think would be at the end of this episode or roughly the end of this episode is this a so I think halfway through this episode will be spicy Jeff is the name spicy Jeff this that's the title of this episode of spicy Jeff I didn't even know that was the title of the episode I knew that I didn't know that episode 7 was episode several I knew was I didn't let's see yes oh my God that would be awesome to have Carolyn on the trailers I love her and take her take on life yeah absolutely

9:26:09 That twist where one player Jamie the one player Jamie Vote or something was dumb wait what are we talking about I'm talking about I'm we're talking about 44 I don't know if it was a Twist the one that I think of is that first vote where Brandon plays the idol and Matty goes home first oh yes and there's okay yeah J played the shot in the dark right yeah okay that makes sense do you think that they'll make Boston Rob tra no because I also feel like they I feel like if they make Boston Rob a Trader people would clock that too so did you get yeah I used the bathroom I made a couple sandwiches and I drank water so and I di that around two-ish two or three-ish yeah and I probably won't eat or drink it the rest of the day it's it is what it is I'll do I'll do all that tomorrow when I finally rest how are you liking your X-Men watch so far good it's really fun as always to talk with my fellow nerds that I've that been

9:27:29 Doing this with for a while and just like going through some of them I haven't seen in a while are actually a couple X-Men movies I haven't seen ever I actually had never seen the we skipped it in like our reviews but I watched it on my own I had never seen the Wolverine where he goes to Japan so oh yeah the sequel yeah I'd never seen that before only seen reviews of it and everything so I didn't it wasn't my favorite it's better it's the second best Wolverine movie yeah it's better than Origins that's what I can say about that yeah it is better than Origins it is and you know I know that's a low bar but it's better than Origins I remember seeing that movie and just like what is this and I was probably 17 when Origins came out and I just thought it was the worst thing and I had seen Green Lantern and Green Lantern wasn't that bad compared to Origins yeah well Origins completely botched Deadpool as a character so yeah I'm excited to rewatch the Deadpools again it's been a bit a few years at least since I've watched both of them so it'll be nice to kind of rewatch them right before Deadpool and Wolverine and we just we just did Logan

9:28:50 This past weekend so which was very depressing so also it will be great to rewatch something fun after something so sad that's yeah do I ever have my ranking for 46 no I don't I'm gonna wait until after I'm done watching it my favorite show is lost I have they're all they're all on DVD over there to my right to my right yeah lost and Survivor which we are 11 minutes into episode 9 spicy Jeff and I think this is a prime time to add my next season so last we saw was Survivor 44 so 20 24 we have no that's Brian you must have not actually seen lost then if you think the ending was bad Australian outback is number 24 Australian outback is something where and I talked about this with Phil earlier you remove the nostalgic glasses which I finally did this time around and

9:30:10 Once the Jerry vote happens it kind of just drags and it drags all the way to the finale which drags for two hours for you to deal with just the final three I think yeah so you just it just never ends and you know it's one of these Seasons where it feels like survivors trying to kill their players and we get that from season two to season four of just like hey let's just let's just kill everyone I think that the characters are a lot of fun we talked about it earlier we've got half the cast back now did we need half the cast back probably not but we did so it doesn't matter yes Colby did make a million dollar SP I've never watched Alias I know that you know JJ ABS did it and everything I just never got into it no loss is a show that I will do a rewatch of like every two years I did one earlier this year because this is the 20th anniversary of it coming out but actually lost and Survivor are the reasons that I to go to Australia and so I did in summer of 05 oh wow yeah I think the best part of Australian Outback

9:31:31 Is we get our first Jeff entrance in the helicopter they're playing the Hy dues as they could come in I mean I there are other good things to Australian Outback but like that is that will always be my favorite part is Jeff getting in the helicopter and showing up to the reunion outside of that I think I tweeted this out when I watched Australian outbag this time around growing up as realizing that coocha were the bad guys because of just I think three to four coocha members in real life have just ended up turning out to be scumbags or also played on Allstars and were looked at as scumbags I think that ogore you know Colby is kind of the villain over there but you know he's Mr Texas so we can't hate him and I mean Jerry's a villain with like whatever a villain is in 2001 that's a hard question Harley's definitely up there leitus Frank lepus the helicopter pilot is definitely one of my favorites he's one I relate to the most definitely

9:32:51 A different feeling to not have them out on a tropical island with water Etc made me feel how surviv wonder how Survivor would do in different environments and the cold Etc yeah I mean we end up in Africa the next season and it's like hey if you don't build your Camp the right way these lines will kill you it's oh okay cool and this water is Tainted by elephant oh okay cool so yeah this is definitely one and in mares you got you know have the no bugs and you have they find I think they found like a skeleton while they were out there and I think by Thailand it's like okay maybe we won't NE kill them [Music] yeah once again anyone that didn't watch the show or you know I have never met a lost fan that hates the finale I've met people that casually watched loss that hate the finale but it's just like I watch I know people that casually watch survive that Russell H should have won Samoa yeah that's how I see it if you're casual then yes but if you're if you're a real fan then you know yeah Al is one of my dad's favorite shows I know my dad has I think all of Alias on DVD Tina

9:34:11 Should have been on W warb I would say that if I were to replace a female winner on winners at war with Tina it probably be Danny boatride yeah or Amber but you have to have Amber because you have Rob and that I don't know how they didn't see that was probably going to cost their boy Rob if you put his wife out there because Rob's not a Target on his tribe but his wife is and that you know he so him being out there actually screwed her because Sandra was so butter that rock ever told you that he was play it was such a fun stupid storyline yeah it really was 36 days and he never told me so now Amber's gotta go I'm like H I feel like we're missing something here yeah I mean I think Rob said it that way he didn't even know that he was gonna be going until like right before so or something like that so do you miss having Survivor go to different locations I know it's all about the human experiment but I would like to see them go to other places I do

9:35:31 Miss them going to different places I do enjoy the Fiji aesthetic I love it I do miss them going to different the problem is not I'm not even talking about the financial thing or anything like that the problem is at a certain point you kind of run out of places that you can actually go and then there are other places where like I really want them to go back to gabone again I think of gabone I only want to think of the first Survivor gabone I don't really want them to go to Outback again because when I you know but I think the bigger thing is I really just location for me doesn't really matter at this point because we've been because we've been in Fiji for so long and it's just like all right yeah guess we're here again it doesn't yeah go ahead I was going to say like I mean I just feel like Survivor needs to differentiate itself I think we need something like themes back or you know if we're not going to switch locations at least make the season more distinguishable and so like unfortunately it's it I think the show is struggling in that respect right now but or at least like switch it up from three tribes at the start like it's kind of getting tiring of six season SE six seasons in a row with three tribes

9:36:51 I just would love to go back to two tribes and like when I'm watching something like Australian Survivor when we have these massive these two massive tribes at the start like it's kind of a breath of fresh air looking at that now compared to like how many seasons in a row we've gotten of three tribes yeah and you get to I mean this is not a knock on it but like you get to hide if you're certain players to hide in the background if you're if you're you know you there is really no place to hide in a in a in a group of and I feel like at a certain point you know some people do it does take some people a while to like gain their footing and here unless you have already put yourself in a four person majority which happens pretty fast you're probably screwed so 's see do you want the food eating challenge back even I think the last time we got it was Ghost Island fairly certain was Ghost Island I could be wrong but I think was I think ghost island is correct yeah so but I mean so last time we had it was in 36 I love the food eating challenge that's one challenge that I feel like I would do amazing at and I don't feel like I would do amazing at most challenges and I feel like I would do amazing at that one

9:38:12 Even if 36 yeah I want it back I think that answers the question do you do you want it back Jake do you want it back I'd be a okay with that I think just bringing something back from like survivors classic era like I think would just work so well I kind of want like more of that and I guess like there's certain challenges they have been doing that with like they just brought back last gasp in the new era and like so there's definitely challenges that I'm glad that they have brought back and we talked about this yesterday with them bringing back the auction I think that and because of 44 we had talked about how you know people kind of game a lot of the challenges or whatever and I'm glad that after 30 where they game they had gained the auction to the point where it's like no fun anymore right I'm glad that they made they had certain rules in place this you're not going to get in Advantage there's no advantages there's a set number of things yeah the whole if you have the most money or least money then you lose your vote type thing it's like okay can we please stop with the losing of the vote thing but I think that they could do the same with what's the other thing they've gotten rid of oh the touchy subjects yeah I think if they brought that back because sanan deler basically

9:39:32 They just tried to game it so that Missy would win if they brought that back and had stuff and put into place then that would be a fun challenge to have back I mean it's I know it's really big in the orc Community they just the yeah they and I like the fact they had to go search for the money they weren't just kind of giving it they weren't just given the money Bruce just kind of being just walking like he's just having a fun time I think he ends up with 80 bucks yeah I think one reason they took it out was because it was culturally insensitive like implying that what is normal cultural food is presented as so I see what you're saying what I will say is every time Jeff presents it he says this is food that everyone eats out here like it's a delicacy I don't I think us as fans have called it the gross food challenge I don't think it's ever actually been called the gross food challenge I know when lrgs is called the gross food challenge because it's usually actual gross food but yeah it's a delicacy thing I what is the most egregious twist wait what everyone's using the ingredients again so twist Survivor has ever done

9:40:56 I would say some of what Australian Survivor has done has been pretty bad because like they have done because they do non-elimination twists so they'll like throw in stuff to not eliminate somebody like they'll do randomly like they'll do like an edge of Extinction or something like in the middle of the season for like three rounds and then end it and just like just to fill out time and there's stuff like that or like one of the Australian Survivor Seasons King George's first season they had like the twist in the very beginning where he could just like save himself and five other people and like basically it's screwed over who ended up being the first boot because they didn't have any way to save themselves before tribal so they're Australian Survivor as much as I really do like it there's times where they don't have great twists in place and I think the last couple Seasons they've gotten better with that because I think production has finally hit their role with Australian Survivor egregious trying to get and to watch yeah like I said I've watched yeah I know Brian I know you brought it up earlier I watched heres of villains and yeah one day I'm going to watch most of them yeah The Medallion

9:42:16 Of power was actually bad Med didn't say it's welcome either they got rid of that at the Swap and I would say honestly the Do or Die is actually the worst yeah got rid of it before someone actually got screwed by it which mathematically probably shouldn't have happened Do or Die is actually the worst yeah I agree with that I did want to mention as well speaking of Australian Survivor because trib and nerds were covering that as well and I did want to mention that if you want to hear from a some Australian Survivor players my team and I we just interviewed dirty hary and Simon me so from Australian Survivor so definitely go check those interviews out because both of them were really good and it's great to talk to like Survivor Legends like that it just feels so surreal to me as a fan well yeah I think one point you were like trying like oh I've got a surprise and you're like ah screw it's this you go I thought that was very cute austral so I can't speak to this but Australian Survivor editing is terrible though in terms of confessional count by five or six episodes you can get pretty much cancel the winning chances of most

9:43:36 Players is that the case I will yeah I will say that there are people that get zero confessionals in some Seasons which is insane because that doesn't I will give credit that American Survivor does not do that we at least get a confessional from every single player in a season but it's just like I don't know like some players are definitely irrelevant that is definitely a flaw in Australian Survivor along with the bad twists but just like the challenges I would say for the most part are better in Australian Survivor I think their willingness to play hard in a lot of cases can be better and since the new era I think I've been referring jlp as the host I think Jonathan lalia has been doing a great job as well yeah I was very serious and I see Brian put it is it the is it basically just a idol nullifier the idol cancellation I'm trying to remember which season this was because I have to rewatch a couple Seasons was this in this might have been brains versus Brun or blood versus water but I think this I think this is a thing I just can't remember which season it was makes it larger than life hero so then their blind happens

9:44:56 Much more epic and you feel the intensity that's true I will say the intensity of some of the blind sides is crazy and like you do feel do feel bad when some of like your favorite players have been built up like get voted out or get blindsided like one of the things with Heroes versus Villains I love heroes Australian Heroes versus Villains it was crazy how much like George was built up and then it just was like disappointing when he got cut right before the end and like I wish like they would have given a little more credit to Liz in that season because like she was clearly she clearly had a game plan going in and she was able to cut George right at the very end but I think that's the Hourglass yes yeah hourglass is bad but even then I'm all I mean I'm not all right with The Hourglass I still think that do or die is worse because do or die you could actually just be taken out of the game for no votes you just you're just gone at least with hourglass okay yeah you're screwing over six people that they at now have to but

9:46:16 They still have to vote like there's still going to be a vote involved Do or Die is I could I cannot believe that they actually made that a thing because there's it's literally just luck based and in the worst way I'm just texting where's he at yeah I believe that was probably like blood versus water cuz I definitely remember blood versus water Australian Survivor blood versus water at broaden s Nina which was great had some other great cast members but like I really don't care about half that cast because the show did not care about giving them anything all right we are at an endurance challenge about halfway through spicy Jeff we're on episode nine so we've got four episodes left I don't know what the math is am I going to it's probably going to be about 14 and a half hours right for this challenge oh yes Titans versus Rebels is great the most recent season yes yeah I mean I'll

9:47:37 Once again I'll I'll watch them eventually I'm not gonna binge watch them like this but oh yeah no I don't blame you because they're so lawn but yeah it's like watching Big Brother like I can't sit and watch but watch Big Brother because it would take forever yeah yep Survivor South Africa might be doable at least the like yeah I watched the final two seasons of Survivor South Africa yeah and they those were great and I said this before tonight I think Survivor South Africa is a good medium between the three episodes four and a half hours for Survivor Australia and the 90 minutes but once a week of us Survivor I really like I got really into Survivor South Africa in its last two seasons sadly you know it was the last two seasons yes the yes do or die was the one with the skull in the crossbones where there's one and three it was the Monty Hall they made it the Monty Hall problem and thankfully Deshawn and Lindsay were able to guess right both times and I think that if like okay let's just end it there because if someone ends up going home because of this twist there's going to be a very big backlash like

9:48:57 You've never seen before and so they were able to avoid it thank goodness yeah so I mean like I said I can only speak to the last two seasons but like I thought it was worth it yeah I would say so there's so basically their last season was an All-Star season and they had people that came from what survivor South Africa seasons four and five you don't need to watch the first three at all because they nobody comes back from those and like South Africa basically got rebooted a couple times to make it make sense and then technically season six was another reboot but they brought people back from the two seasons before that but just start from season six South Africa Philippines and then just like I think the allstar season return of the outcast does do a good job of explaining who like the people from the earlier seasons are so and because of this because they change the Australia versus thing I think we're going to see a fair few South Africa players more than us Sur us players on there and if that's the case I think the shoe in for that is probably chap probably chappies please give me chappies again

9:50:17 G be chappies hated seeing what happened to him in the second time but second time I mean it was also kind of expected though right yeah after what after him doing so well the first time it made sense it just was very disappointing as and I'm because I'm a huge chappies fan yeah I mean he was one of the characters in the first season that I watched that really got me into it so that when the second season was announced and Brian actually the second season was pre-merge versus post-merge yes which is we had talked about earlier that if Survivor us were to do it I think that's it would be a cool concept once you're in the move for Survivor again check out definitely check out surv I know I know I know I know I know I yes I will I'll get into like I said South Africa I really enjoyed the final two seasons yeah so oh nice I was gonna say there is also a UK season from last year which was okay ited it started off rough and it the post merge got better

9:51:37 And then I never got through the two New Zealand Seasons but there's those as well those as well I just couldn't get through like how those were edited I guess so I know I remember seeing a couple of New Zealand players because they did a sequester menu during Co and it was like did international well International versus America you know so a lot of those players I had never seen before okay so Charlie won how much time is left in this episode okay we're about halfway done the episode we're about eight minutes from The 10hour Mark yay I can't believe it I can't believe that I have been doing this since 8:30 in the morning but you know here we are I'm I mean I know it doesn't look like I'm paying attention but like I really am just I'm enjoying this I think this okay so this is the Hunter episode I remember where I was when this happened let's see I need to watch the recent UK one I was busy missed it when I have the links to watch yeah I it's probably worth watching like at least for the post

9:52:58 Merge so what were what did you see with the is were the issues with the with the opening with the opening of Survivor UK yeah so it just felt very low budget they literally their immunity idol for the tribes to win was literally a log with jewelry glued on it like it was that terrible and then they the editing was not great I believe the first episode the first boot like they don't really explain exactly what they basically blame it on the first boot failed in the challenge so that's why they got voted out which I don't I don't think is ever really the case at this point in Survivor history I don't think anybody really gets voted out just because of a poor challenge performance so I think that's part of it and just like there were people that had no idea what survivor was there's literally a guy on there who right there's literally a guy on there who is pretty much just misogynistic and like the only thing he did all season and somehow last through half the game was basically he voted for a woman every single time so

9:54:18 Like how many days is it I think it's 39 from my memory I think there's a couple characters worth watching Survivor UK for the That season because that was also one where they had an ear two early 2000 Seasons that were terrible and aren't so they try it again yeah so they try it again it happens I'm sending a message out real quick turn [Music] internet present presents how do you spell presents I got it oh God I think now I'm starting to I'm I think it's starting to hit me now yeah

9:55:39 Yeah I think as I as I looked through where to hit double jit it's and I realize that I still have to get through four more episodes I get that Al is two hours no didn't they kind of do that with that one show that was out a couple years ago celebrity get me out of here or they also did the one like that was really a ripoff of Survivor that was like the I can't remember what Ray Lewis was on it and like meta World Peace was on it as well yeah that show that show exists and I think that's the closest we would ever get to a celebrity one it was absolutely I tried watching it and it was literally the host was so cheesy that it just turned me off I was just like I can't sit and watch this my apologies stream hope all is well s all

9:56:59 Right I'm being ballsy so no Brian no I could not next season what do you mean next season what do you mean what's going on here next season of what yeah but next season of what are you saying T I don't know I don't know next season of your rankings oh okay I was like what are you talking about oh okay so number 23 we've got make sure this is right we've got Survivor Africa another you know another long line of Seasons that or not a long line of Seasons but a series of four three seasons where they are trying to kill their players

9:58:19 And you know I understand that Lex has a very large fan base I've never been the a Lex guy you know it's you know him telling Clarence like hey I just want to tell you man to man because I don't want it to be any and then him trying to cut the head off the snake because one other person really weird and it goes on this and I love that it was T Bird that did it yes I think that but I mean having said that I do think that Lex big Tom and Ethan are a fun Trio despite the fact how they treat Camp Clarence in the opening episode I'll get over outside of that I really like Kelly T Bird I think that Brandon and what's his nut's rivalry Frank I think their rivalry was of its age I think that the first tribe swap is great because we get to see Silas get voted out because syus sucks I love the milk and blood challenge that's probably my favorite challenge of the season because once again I feel like I would just I feel like I would killed that challenge

9:59:40 Yes I know like we like they didn't screw them they didn't SC like they ain't screw they ain't screw but I yes that is a thing that happened Kim Johnson is there who else it's so when I watching it this time the dentist Carl Dr Carl yeah he has his whole he has two different rants bitching about gen xers and it's like wow this is so dated yeah that hasn't aged particularly it has not aged at all and the fact that he's sitting there saying oh yeah like you know they've been handed all this it's like oh man where do I know that from oh yeah that's what the Genex are said in Gen X like 20 years later it just shows how much people take their Generations way too seriously we're g mean I'm a millennial I'm going to do the exact same I mean I feel like I already do the exact same thing with jenzy so I'm not any different Kenzie and Ben are talking about something oh they want to Blindside Tiff they want a Blindside Tiff

10:01:00 But they Blindside Hunter okay T Bird well but the problem with and we I talked about this earlier when I talked about Allstar archetypes you know you youve got Kathy as the archetype there sadly because I would have rather T-bird over Kathy but once again I'm glad that t- bird is not on All Stars anyone that's not on Allstars or anyone that gets voted out pre-merge I am happy that it went that way because they don't have to deal with it well Rob Cino goes home early enough that he doesn't have to deal with the mess the Survivor allars you know Tina going home early going home first Rudy you know threatening murder on everyone that votes him out you know who else actually like gets voted vot Rich gets voted out Ethan yeah and Jerry yeah and Jerry I think the whole thing with Kathy referring to Amber as a cancer around the tribe even though Jenna's yeah Jenna's mom as a cancer when Jenna's mom is dying of cancer

10:02:20 Is a weird phrase to use I think that the way Kathy and Lex react to Rob saying hey I'm probably gonna stick with this Alliance and them crying about it a lit as a t bit weird and like I will always say especially for people that come from the or Community when these people think they're playing friend vior and their best friend is not playing friend vior and he votes them all out you can't be butt hurt over yeah I get that entirely as an org player myself yeah it Happ like it is what it is you know and I understand that's where the Boston Rob as the villain story art comes from it's like yeah he was villainous in the season but I feel like there's this perception that Rob like this huge after Allstars and it's like that's not really the case you ever want did you watch Allstar like he's playing the game and he's not doing anything that's stepping over a line except for voting out his friends yeah I mean I don't know if it was like because I feel like he kind of came off as the Russell in All Stars like he was kind of how it appeared to them

10:03:40 I do agree like I probably would have voted for Boston Rob over or Amber but like you know I guess I can see the perception sort of although as you've said like Lex and Kathy being reacting the way they do and just like that jury being as insanely bitter as they are so well and the thing is so I think that Shen is probably the most the most rational person on the jury and she both Amber right she's the she's the least B person on the jury and she votes Amber so I do think that there has to be some Merit there the fact that the same person is voting for the person that does win the game all stars is that bad it actually is that bad I'm not the rich Sue situation I have my own thoughts on that I don't even put I don't even put that in why this season is bad Allstars is actually just it's bad it's boring yeah it's so boring once the merge hits the only good episode that season is the shien episode The One she wins immunity right because in that episode we also get the touchy sub we also get touchy subjects and Alicia realizes hey I'm probably on the bottom doesn't stop her from still antagonizing

10:05:01 Xen anyway but it is what it is yeah and then from there like other fun moments like however you feel about Sue the way that her tribe is overly celebrating the fact that she's gone by singing W ding-dong the witches is dead is Optics aren't great Kathy saying she dragged she dragged us into a core of hatred which is not something to say like it's just it's awful yeah no matter what you feel about it yeah the fact that the audience at the reunion booes the out of Jerry for making a very good point yeah like her point was very accurate and those people because America they've been trained by Colby and everyone else to hate Jerry hey Claire I'm SW hey CLA [Music] it's all stars is not fun Brian like it's not it's not fun at all yeah Lex sold the game by voting jerat yeah you're right but he also thought his buddy Rob was gonna have his back and he shouldn't think that because you just voted out Ethan after telling him hey you got to be a man we're here for money now like you

10:06:21 Got and then two episodes later you know getting upset that Rob wants to Target you get over yourself all right we're at Tribal Council nine why is what we've got it's we're at the 49 minute mark this tribal goes on that long I guess so All Stars would be in my bottom 10 yeah it is in my bottom 10 I don't think that it's ever been I think at one point when I was a child it probably was like in the 20s but allar is not good it is actually the worst so it's the worst of the returning Seasons it's also worth watching oh re-watching sure if you haven't watched it since you were a kid just so you can make your own judgment on if you like it or not and CLA I won't say I won't put her out there like that but yes so okay so Allstars came out in 2003 I think or four yeah okay so I

10:07:42 Was 13 12 or 13 years old and so was CLA I guess she said I could put it out there I was 13 14 years old and I remember I was a big Boston Rob fan at that point so I was pulling for him in that season I didn't care that he didn't win what I cared about was my mom she goes I don't know why you support that man don't you know that all white people from Boston are racist and I'm like whoa as a kid you're hearing that one of your favorite players because my mom is like oh yeah don't you know all white people from Boston racist I guess so I'm a Red Sox fan and then I learned that people in Boston are Alicia was all oh Alicia being bitter was always frustrating to me too she was only annoyed made a promise to take her to the end that's her fault she believed to be closer to Rob than Amber yes exactly I was gonna say Alicia also went through the entire game 30 days without having a single Alliance besides that one promise to Boston Rob and it's that's just insane to me that she is that like prideful that she won't make an alliance it's like what are you doing pulling for Bost yeah of course all

10:09:02 Once again all of our favorite people are going out Prem merge in that season and I'm all right with it because I don't need them to stay any longer to deal with the of the rest of this season but like I think the what was it the funny 115 the one where it says Rudy puts a what is it a what's a holy war what's the Muslim phrase for holy war Jihad he put a Jihad out on the rest of the cast it's one of my favorite articles from that because he really does just say oh yeah I got friends back home that'll take care of him it's like I ha this man be serious I yeah all star is not fun yeah that's true because that's how a lot of the pre-mades were made because they were all chilling right before like Rob and Amber were already knocking boots before they went out there and yeah that's how sest Nino got screwed cut you can make it to the end alone if you're Mike Holloway which sucks that he was in that situation but like it is

10:10:22 What it is yes it's a joyless season I watching it this time around I it doesn't help that it's 16 episodes it just goes on forever and then you have to watch the million dooll fan vote thing afterwards where they give rert a million dollars even though it's very clear that then his cast hates him CLA I would say that you give it give it another give it another chance not to say I think it's good but maybe you watching it you might enjoy it I know they're Allstar Defenders we just had one in the chat but can't be me also I cannot wait to cut the off tonight I've been letting this grow out since I started and I think it's time for it to go I need to get rid of all this where we at they've got 10 minutes left why does this tribal go on forever God oh also at some point we hit the 10 hour mark and I forgot to mention hey we hit the 10 hour mark we' hit the 10 hour Mark yes Shen was the only great point about the post merge yes like I said earlier and it's very similar to

10:11:42 To ghost Island where unless you are invested in the Dom Wendell story arc ghost Island yeah if you're not invested in the rber story arc of all stars then you really have nothing to get invested in and for me I just did not care about rber this just this time around just because I've seen it happen a thousand times yes she is like Andrea belkey I love that you pronounce or you put it out phonetically yeah the concept of all stars is great the concept of all star is a lot of fun when they're all coming in and it's like oh man you know was this person and this especially watching it the how the way I've been doing it is a lot of fun seeing them pull in and then immediately it's just like I hate all of these people not all of them but yeah it's not Heroes versus Villains where you know you're seeing it happen it's like okay cool now we're gonna get this yes it is Russell H the Russell H Show part two but once again it's exciting to watch him lose again because he's a piece of one of the Bri spot oh yeah she Sheen's

10:13:03 Going to get all the love because Sheen's the best and it's ironic because she's the only person from Thailand that's ever come back yeah and will probably ever come back I went on my Thailand rant my highest Survivor take is the pure returning player Seasons never work I disagree I think that game changers and Allstars are bad Second Chances is one of my favorite Seasons her of FS is my favorite season and wers at War like I always say it will always consistently drop down the list for me just because once Sophie goes home it just becomes the Tony show and you know I like Tony when where at War but like I would like to have more suspense than oh Tony's winning then after Sophie goes home I've already seen I've seen the Russell vote out and surviv Australia come on as the as the Russell hater I'm gonna watch him get voted out in anything if there was no Allstar there would have been no heroes or villains yeah but that doesn't mean that we that all stars was good it just means yeah why I don't want to give praise to something even like yes it's an iconic part

10:14:23 Of Survivor history but I don't have to like it because like it I just can't get behind things that happened in All Stars it's the same thing with game changers like I just dislike both those Seasons game changers is actually my least favorite rury season but that's also personal because it started going downhill as soon as Malcolm got voted out yeah I mean CLA you could just hop in here you have the link like wasn't important no he was important to the pre merge like the pre merge happens or the way the merge happens is because of that rivalry with Russell and for Tyson kind of shooting himself in the foot I did I not send you the link last night I guess I might I my bad sorry that's that is my fault who did I send that to earlier yes game changers is very bad I and I'm gonna argue with that point too I think the premerge is great because the Boston Rob versus Russell rivalry I really I think he's a great part of the Season

10:15:43 Even though he's only there for half the season but it just that's actually probably one of my favorite probably my favorite storyline of the entire season is that rivalry it makes me support Boston Rob because like yeah if I have to pick between the two of them I'm always gonna pick Rob first 100% of the time yeah sending all right oh yeah and I wasn't even yeah yes thank good and Tyson voted the way he should have we may have we may have seen Redemption Island I'm going assume that means we may not have seen Redemption Island I think it would have been we may not have seen Redemption yeah I assume that is what it means as well I mean there's a rumor as well of Tyson voting himself off supposedly led to them offering Tyson Boston Robin coach Seasons where they could get a free win which coach screwed up anyway but like I don't necessarily yeah I don't that but I've heard that conspir conspiracy the too hiire hi Oh I thought you did that on purpose oh no I just I'm on my you didn't look at my little

10:17:03 Cat I just was having a hard time well for joining me oh my gosh I can't believe you've been doing this for a month and a half and that I've been doing this today for 10 and a half hours I was going to say that but I was actually more horrified that you've just been doing this for yeah for a month and a half I know but I'm done I'm done after today so you know it's and then I'm just gonna sleep and read a book shave yeah read a book shave get back into shape because I've lost a fair amount of pounds Hunter's getting voted out Claire what were your thoughts on 46 also guess who was in the chat earlier was it me no oh who it was Liz wow I love Liz I think you might love Liz more than me but I actually if we're talking about 46 she was like one of the best casting because she like literally I'm sorry I just how do I talk about Liz saying things that you haven't already said about her like she is so unique she's like the only person I've ever like seen on the show that is

10:18:23 Her you know what I mean like there I don't think like there's been casting like her before she had a strategy like it didn't have to be right but like she came in with like a point of view and a plan and I don't know like I would rather see someone like that than someone like Charlie because like I don't know when I watch the show there's like no I'm on my little phone sorry so like when I'm watching the show like I don't need tips for how to play Survivor if I ever played Survivor like I don't care like I don't need to know about little grip strand thing like I want to see like people actually play like and I don't know I just hate that they're so obsessed with like the super fans and like catering to this is how to play this is how the social game like this is how I navigated the social game and like why is it always like a very smart White young man who is like having to deal with feeling like he's not part of the group and then somehow he's able to you know use his emotional intelligence to gain friends and like have a strategy like I hate the Carson you know I hate Carson but like the Carson's the Carson Charlie Spencer 1.0 pipeline of just like super smart kid or I'm sorry not Spencer 1.0 Spencer 2.0 where he's like I'm gonna use emotional intelligence yeah I have I have a girlfriend now and I just don't know

10:19:43 How to tell her I love her and Jer F you talking about was rooting for you little bro like actually 1.0 Spencer is like brilliant because he's so obnoxious and so wrong but so sure of himself that he's right and it's like this is fascinating to watch like I don't want to watch like a self-actualized or someone who thinks that he's self-actualized but really you're 25 and you're not you know what I mean like I would prefer someone who doesn't play like a Flawless social game well and the thing with Spencer that I went off on when I talked about Kagan is he's claiming to be like this the student of the game and yet he doesn't understand that anything that Cass is doing even though Cass is playing a very good game and he's amazing and he's just like all like Cass is a doesn't understand how to play it's like is that so because she started off on the bottom and is now sitting at final three and all of yall calling her a goat sitting at the you know on the jury I think that if she sits next to woo I think I mean I don't I won't say that she absolutely she wins against woo she's a trial attorney she can argue herself like I think that people were bitter and so that's valid that maybe it wouldn't have worked out but think of what's cass's Journey from

10:21:04 She's on a tribe of six I actually think about this all the time which is embarrassing but so Cass starts on a tribe yeah right yeah who I'm in a safe space Cass is on a tribe of six where she is the small old lady some and her first the first vote out she's on the outs because she's with the baseball guy David name yeah so sorry I haven't I watched this maybe like two or three years ago but I haven't watched it in a little while but so she's on the outs her first round she's a small older lady she's on the tribe of six and somehow makes it into a power position on the tribe of six like that's incredible she is working with like the you know the Sarah Lina or whatever during like the merge she realizes this doesn't work for me I'm on the bottom of this and she has the agency go you know what no this isn't cool with me I'm switching like she's nasty she's a prickly person but she's making good moves she wins an immunity challenge like completely coming from behind like that was one of my favorite that like besides like the Nicole with one or Noel with one leg challenge like one of my favorite challenges in the history of Survivor and oh and then when Spencer is gonna have the idol when he finds the idol and she's like he has an idol like he's going to play it like that's her read she's so good I'm obsessed and I love Tony he's probably my favorite winner besides well I have a couple of F I have like a couple of favorites

10:22:24 Like I don't know Chris from Van watu is like a personal yeah Chris is probably my favorite but it's hard to say because he played only once and like it was a different time but I think he's amazing like I think anyway but like Tony only wins because Trish is there to like clean up all of his messes like and then Sarah cleans up a lot of his Messes in 40 and he's still one of my favorite characters and one of my favorite but like don't act like he like Trish's road to the end was I'm sorry whatever cass's road to the end is way harder and I don't know I think she's I hate that people are like oh she would have never won like they only say that because Spencer who's like a Spencer who he doesn't I don't think that know anything and I went I went on the Sarah luina rant during winters at War talking about how she has her whole moment where she's like oh yeah there's this gender bias where if a woman does this then they're looked at as a I was like you mean how you treated Cass and exactly kind like so cannot stand her no she sucks yeah I mean I do like Sarah's WIS but so I'm going all the way back to your archetype thing because I have sat here yeah the last two weeks talking about how I don't like that archetype the skinny like it nerdy archetype

10:23:45 Like yeah go on sorry so they especially in the new era where they're telling the Back stories and stuff whenever it's them whenever it's Carson or anyone like that it's like oh man everyone else has these sad stories and it's like oh I was a I was a skinny kid and then I lo or I was a fat kid and then I lost weight or like I wore glasses and had racist like okay so you were a nerd in a 1980s teenag so you were teenager yeah there's nothing if you really want me to relate to you based off of the fact that you were a skinny or fat kid and then you weren't that's not really appealing to me well it's usually that archetype well I mean I think you know everyone there's a word for it and I don't remember the word but it's like you know there's a realization that people can sometimes come to when it's like holy crap everyone's life is as complicated as mine is and you know everyone has a story I think that's actually what's happening with Jeff propes these days because he's been doing the same job for xman years like he needs to find more meaning in his work which is why he can't just be like you're a hot girl in a bikini you're an ex- football player big buff guy you're a cowboy you know what I mean which is why he's like oh my gosh I need to give these people depth and stuff because that's the only way that I can feel like I'm making a difference in this job that I've been doing for 25

10:25:05 Years but when you're like a 25-year-old like straight white man yeah Jake you're the villain but you know what I mean like it's not that you haven't been through stuff but like what have you really been through know like so I don't know I just I just hate that we get one every year and like they keep doing fabulously like I just I don't care about your story I'm sorry like have fun working on the moon like I just don't care I can't I can't be bothered to care but live never SE someone like Liz exactly and yeah go back let going back to Liz this is I think this is the episode that she has her moment has that moment she had moments every episode though like I know but were looking for it okay yeah fair enough you know but if you were looking if like you knew like she was just always there like she avoided the curse of like getting voted out with an idol by never looking for an idol she's literally a genius I love her yeah the okay I feel and everyone that's are we going to start this Tony discussion again because once again I feel like Tony is a fun character in Kagan and I feel like he's a great winner and winners at War I think like yeah

10:26:25 Tony's the only person to ever play like that in Kagan and win every other play that has tried to play you know overly strategic or make all these big moves has fizzled out because that's what happens overrated you know that's subjective but like I said Tony's a great character in Kagan a great winner winners at War and he's he doesn't outstay his welcome game changers he just kind of he shows up for the premiere and he off by the second vote yeah he doesn't overstay as welcome for sure yeah but I don't know I think I never answered your question because I was too excited to talk about anything but I think 46 if it had gotten out of its own way and just let people play instead of having you know like why can't we have a swap like bonu like bonu is a great character that if he wasn't like the only focus for like getting what did he get like 40 confessional confessionals in four episodes that's crazy that's so bad like he could have been he was such a fun character such an interesting character but it's like you can't shove him down our throats like that I'm sick of the three tribe format but like this was such a fun cast and a cast that like really wanted to play

10:27:46 But I think they the prodction just kind of gets it in its own way and like doesn't it kind of Clips everyone's Wings you know what I mean with like these crazy like there's never earning the merge people never get to actually vote because one big problem I have is the like the merory vote is then right after that they split up into two groups right so what ends up happening is people don't want to make like a big move at the merory like you know what people probably would have voted off someone like Charlie but they were like we to vote out like the easiest person I think was Mariah because like it'll ruffle less feathers because I don't know what group I'm going to be in for the next round so like it's stifling gameplay because like the format is to like people don't know what to expect and that's what the problem like I don't know I just I feel like this could have been like such an elite season if they just let people play but they keep doing too much they keep doing too and that's I mean I don't hate the new era like it seems like a lot of people do I do think there are issues with it and one of the issues is not only did they have Meritor and like yeah they started off horribly with having Meritor with the hourglass they got rid of The Hourglass after 42 43 and 44 I can't remember exactly what they did with merory but for 45 and 46 they do the like they have merory I think Lydia went and then Ellie went so it was like two

10:29:06 Fabulous Girls Who had no business going yes yeah and both my crushes from those Seasons so but then we get to 45 where they have merory they get rid of someone one then they merged but that first person that they you that goes out at the merge doesn't make the jury which I know that like in the past that it was a thing with some of the earlier Seasons where the first person that makes the merge doesn't make the jury but I feel like that just wasting two people in a situation if you're you know people Caleb is one shot in the dark away from not making jury and yeah you didn't even need him on the season he's so annoying Caleb from 4 I'm just messing with you know I wouldn't I don't like people that remind me of me like he reminds me of me Caleb reminds okay yeah no he's like too good at like being amazing like I'm like looking at a mirror okay same with Kenzie I couldn't like her because I was like oh my God this is literally just oh so then who were you pulling for here I was pulling for Kenzie I just like saw too much of myself in her and I was like H God like I see what you're doing like you're so friendly like just drove me nuts no but no I was I didn't think Liz was gonna win but I was definitely rooting for Liz but I was mostly just trying to I you know

10:30:26 How we both feel about Liz I just never saw someone like her in my life like imagine being Liz like having that as your brain like I could never I'm obsessed I'm leaving yeah sorry I'm all over the place I'm in such a wacky mood but no I just think I mean the jurries are too big like you don't need especially with like the laughable like the fact that it's like two weeks less to have like 11 people to have someone who was voted out at what like day 12 like on the jury that's crazy to be like that's not like you have not earned anything so you do agree that they should earn the merge then no I agree that they I think that they should just like have the format be like maybe I think I think it was good in David versus Goliath where like they were on two tribes and they to three and there was like some movement and then there's a big merge and like I mean at the merge like you know at that point you can be on the jury if you want but like why are you having six people voted out as your pre-jury like that's onethird of the cast that's crazy that's too few people you know what I mean like it's like there's only five vote outs before question out of all of your co-hosts from the past month and a half who do you think would most likely win and who would most likely be voted out first tough

10:31:47 Question I know I'm not going to answer that there's no way that I'm gonna answer that question I mean Claire's here I'll say that she would win but like but I don't know that's a that's wild I feel like you know I feel like you know and you're just not saying it you're right I do just I'm not gonna say it how would you do I would be a merge boot is that just because a black man keeps being the merge boot no but that is a good point I would be jur I would be the first juror I would be the Caleb because I saw a lot of myself in Caleb which is ironic because he's clocked as this very personable social person that can get along with everyone it's like yeah I feel like that would be the time for people to get rid of me because oh Liz here we go she's pissed she's pissed wait is Liz in here no h no oh she's ready to be pissed that she doesn't get pick the yeah she co-hosted with you no she was in the chat earlier oh sorry I'm really derailing everything I'm so sorry

10:33:07 What did you think this is more important you have a better like knowledge of what's going on so what were your thoughts on 45th I think it's fine I think it's a fine season you know I don't I don't hate it or anything I think that this season definitely solidifi Survivor fans as being crazy now because of how they went after Maria and a few others after the season was over but you know I'm not going to complain too much I would say that 46 by the end of this I'll probably have in my top 25 of like the new era Seasons like 41 to 46 so it would be for me it's 402 45 46 41 43 did I put 44 in there 44 somewhere in there too so 46 is in the middle of the pack for the new er seasons 2 oh she froze I guess I am kind of spoiling what's going to happen as this progresses but did you I don't know if you heard anything that I said where did I leave off with my

10:34:27 List oh all right number 22 oh you're an elevator okay hear sorry I was leaving my apartment and like he was get I can sorry I give you a second so number 22 on the list we've got Survivor Kong Claire I've been doing a countdown of the seasons throughout this so number 22 on my favorites list I've got Survivor Kong I love Michelle Fitzgerald I love most of the cast I think that Scott and Jason are villains that fun rooting against I love Sydney this was this is definitely a season where the Survivor fans really started to show that they might actually be monsters because of how they went after Michelle online like personally attacking her online and you could see that you know with how she sees herself and winners at War where she oh yeah the fans the fans didn't like me and Rob's just like the fans you know the fans can't tell you that you deserve to win or not because you won yeah Brian it just barely misses

10:35:47 My top 20 it's 22 it's I'm shocked it's that low I feel like it's such a good season it is it is a really good season I 22 is not low 22 is in the top half right like mathematically that's in the top half of Seasons oh we're losing CLA but I mean I'm glad that people are starting to come around to Kong because I remember when it first came out people were very low on it because oh our winner didn't win it's like well too bad like I said the Liz scene they're doing the challenge right now but the I'm pissed scene is about to go down so I'm I guess I'm excited about that I actually don't even remember this challenge yeah the scene where Ty doesn't give them the idol is amazing because he just kind of look like they look at each other he just shakes his head and it's game over I thought it

10:37:07 It's great television I've met people that think that the dream actually like the tie was the person that should have won and they screwed him and it's like once again I feel like you people just kind of need to chill out a little bit all right we so at hour 11 I'm gonna someone remind at hour 11 for me to make a post because I didn't make a post at hour 10 not that I you know okay someone take Liz so she won't get pissed she's gonna get pissed y'all Q my boy yeah we've I forgot to keep track of who we just got slam with a bunch of folks at that point so of course am I not going to have dinner probably not and probably and unless someone wants to order

10:38:28 Me something that's probably not going to happen tonight do the do the metab backs harm the season no for Kon no it doesn't because I feel like I mean the Caleb one is compelling to me you know I resonate emotionally with that scene the Mr Joe one is hilarious no not hilarious in a funny way but hilarious in a he's yeah anyway and then the Neil one you feel for him until he says what he says to Michelle on his way out I don't know I feel like we lost her and I don't I know it looked like she was heading out somewhere I feel like she would probably stay around for a little bit longer anyway but yeah Claire was someone that I wanted to get to come on for this but our schedule's never matched up so okay so he has to pick one more person and he's not gonna pick Liz pick her pick her Q maybe he pictur this time come

10:39:57 On oh once I haven't asked this question in a while no one can hear my TV red I'm gonna assume no oh yeah it was I mean it's like I said it's great television oh Jeff why are you leave her alone let her have her moment oh Claire's back sorry my thing was dying but yes sorry I didn't mean to like talk so much but oh my God you're F no one ever talks to me about Survivor well someone did ask where you went so that oh I'm around I'm around I just I'm not driving my car is not on but I was like I needed to what's it called well I told my boyfriend I'd go to the gym now because I've been going so late at night that I get back at like 10:30 he's like what the and I was like we're trying to watch Desperate Housewives so I made him watch the goat he like he like loved it I think he like doesn't know enough about reality TV to know that like there better

10:41:17 Shows but did you watch the goat on Amazon he watch the Survivor yeah oh it was all right Devon is like wonderful I always loved Avon so that was good but it was okay I actually thought it was like a really good game format because like the comps were like so Equitable and like so cheap but like in a good way but I think if like Devon and Wendell weren't there it would have been like a terrible Show Oh Thomas stop I do too yeah the goat started coming out while I was doing this so like I haven't watched jack except for Survivor for the last 46 days so I'm surprised you've like done anything other than sleep like been able to sleep is crazy to me oh I mean it's usually like 12 to 13 oh it's about 12 hours a day and so what I'll do is if I know I have plans the next day I'll just like hold all night to like watch as much as possible for the next season so that's insane but I had no social life right now yeah I have no social life then you also like but then you're posting about it right so you're talking about it for like an hour two hours also and like you probably like use the bathroom like I know as a guy like guys take so long like girls like we're in and out but guys are like that's their time it's crazy to me I don't know how you have time for

10:42:38 Anything I get seven hours of sleep I get six seven hours of sleep it's not it's honestly it hasn't gotten hard until the 90minut episode started yesterday and it's just like all right it's kind of draggon even the Seasons it's just like all right I can just I'll take a nap during this episode and be all right you know you did this a couple years ago I did is there anything that surprised you watching all this or like that you did that you caught that like that you didn't catch the first time around or the second time like the first time watch in it or the first time that you did the X season in X days yeah it's very easy to pick up on who's a recruit and who's not because they'll just s for the thousandth time since I've watched Survivor China the fact that James revered the immunity idol as the immunization thing is so hilarious to me but even just like people don't know the rules when they're playing and I would say that my biggest takeaway this time around is in Micronesia Everyone likes to put parvity on this weird pedestal as far as like she's play she had the most dominant win it's like she really didn't in Micronesia it's really everyone else in her Alliance

10:43:58 Is making all the moves she just happened to fall into a situation where s can't sit at the end and all she has to do is beat Amanda who's gonna pout her way through fin trial yeah who can't speak and yeah is gonna p and you have to deal with Azie being a p on the jury making it all about him and how he's in love with Amanda and James telling parvy we already know that Amanda's going to win this it's like yeah I those types of things I feel like rubbed a lot of people the wrong way and so they but I don't think parvy was like this alltime great winner because of the I think she played a lot better in Heroes versus Villains right that's yeah once again I don't I'm not knocking what parvy did like she won and I will always respect what winners do I'm just saying the a top tier s tier yeah the revisionist history would say that parvy was leading this all Women's Alliance and she orchestrated all of these blindsides when it wasn't the case at all you know Azie gets taken out because of three Jason gets taken out because ofal is there an echo there was an echo who else

10:45:19 Eric they gas lit the out like well three Natalie and Amanda gaslit the out of Eric Amanda plays an idol to get Alexis out so like Harv's name does should pop up in any of those but I think that yes a win is a win and you deserve to win if you win she also probably had the smallest Target going in like to 16 like it's I remember like well no one cared about Amanda either actually because I don't think that season had aired yet but it's not like she was SI who was like oh my God she almost made it to the end in her season blah BL you know what I mean like parvy was just like oh you were just yeah you were the pretty girl on cook Island yeah bikini babe number 48 of yeah and she becomes parvy the legend in that season in Micronesia Chris I Chris from Van watatu is the most underrated winner ever and Van watu is the most underrated season ever like watching Chris navigate that entire thing is so fun like and even the way that he bullshits his way through final tribal and Scout calls him out like oh yeah you're full of and he's like yeah I am so what I wish they would cast someone like Scout again I doubt they would but like she was so she's so unique she's also like James Gravedigger James where it's like

10:46:39 I don't think I've ever seen it or lit our best friend Liz like I've never seen someone else like you on this show ever I imagine being like a lesbian back in like the 60s like that's like very not Progressive is the wrong word and like Brave is the wrong word but like she was so ahead of her time yeah I have I have statements about this so I can't say to anyone with the heart would have chosen Liz the heart has nothing to do with Survivor and she did just vote against him like I understand that she loves apple and I everyone knows I love Liz Claire loves Liz this is nothing to do with ant this is not an anti- Liz thing it's a I understand Q's point of view thing but it was beautiful because Q got his come upin because he brings Kenzie and Tiffany on the on the reward with him and they both vote against him that next vote so it's like Karma's for you like you gave these people food and they still didn't vote for you and Liz didn't that's the thing like I If you go on my Reddit history like I spent like a few days like arguing with people and then I was like actually I'm not speaking to any of you but like Liz knew what to do she was pissed she had to yell she had her moment and then she was like okay I'm gonna do what's best for my game

10:47:59 And she votes with Q whereas the people who brought who Q brought on the reward voted against him like I don't know like she's just not getting enough credit for her but no Q won that challenge he didn't have he had his plan to like befriend his former whatever the purple tribe was no he made he made the like you know what I mean if you win the challenge like you get to pick who you want I love that he didn't pick also like you don't want people who play optimally because then you can like watch chess like you want to see people who are messy people who are histrionic people who like Maria I was OBS I didn't like Maria at all like in terms of like her vibe like I don't like her like I don't care for her as like a person I like wish to know in my life but she probably care about me either but like she's in wonderful character like she thinks she's like this boss babe she's a Doula like teaching people that they shouldn't use hospitals to give birth like you are first of all delusional but then on top of that she's winning challenges she's a bossass and then she's like sing for your supper play Rock Paper Scissors like I want that I want messy like bad not bad but like not clean gameplay you know what I mean like being so obvious that she made a great move so she goes and tells everyone instead of like trying to keep her Threat Level low and like and like moving the next thing like that is so interesting to

10:49:19 Me and I mean you could go back and forth on like her did she vote the right way or not I mean I think she definitely voted bitterly but like that's okay if people didn't vote bitterly like that wouldn't be the game you know what I mean like if it was you can't quantify the winner and this is not a hot take but like if the game was about who won the most challenges or who didn't get votes for the person like against them throughout the game like then you wouldn't have the jury at the end like the whole point is that it's not a quantifiable winning rubric which is why you have 40 some odd different winners of just the US version like oh you're breaking out you're breaking out yeah I don't know I Maria as a charact I would rather Maria come back than Charlie rather Charlie come back than the NASA Carson but yeah I don't know I think my service is bad I'm sorry no it's F your boy Carson Claire doesn't like Carson like I don't like Carson so while her while her service is going out Claire doesn't like Carson like I don't like Carson also to answer this question no I haven't brought up Batu yet we haven't gotten to Batu on the

10:50:40 List vanatu won't show up for a while so we're Claire did you hear everything you know my old cats were named after vanu I told you that my old cats were named after van watu I don't think so oh yeah when it was I was airing in the eighth grade and my dad brought home like little kittens and I named one Amy because she was really skinny but her stomach was like big I think she had worms but like she reminded me of Amy and then Eliza had like these big crazy eyes so I named her Eliza and that's awesome it was from because the show was airing at the time and I was like you're Amy and you're Eliza did they get along oh yeah no they loved each other yeah they did better than a savannah watsu folks the actual baby all right so 21 we're gonna go to CH 21 right yeah 21 we have Survivor China so low yeah Survivor China for me is it's a fun season to just introduce someone to Survivor like it's there's nothing there's nothing crazy about it's just like it's a very there's so much crazy about it you have one of the greatest winner Super Fan brains over Brawn winner of all time you have Courtney

10:52:00 Yates and her British father and her cute little news boy cap and her everything you have hot Gravedigger James not playing two Idols you have love which apparently has not ended well talk about that yeah but that was nice for a while until it was horrible you have ironically I covered this season the day that news broke oh geez wow I'm the radio lady huh yeah no horrible actually I don't even want to make a joke about that but yeah horrible wait but so why isn't it higher I China for me is just a season that I can just show someone's like hey this is what survivor is it's you know like I said I mean I do like cast I love the cast Courtney Yates is one of my favorite players ever I do think that James as a character is fun I think that the problem with James is people like to lump him far as like no see like I don't like Lunch Lady Denise but how you don't have to like her like she's so fascinating because she does because she does martial arts her navigate through it like she does martialart important to you about Survivor if not Survivor China's just that I'm sorry oh I'm so what oh my god

10:53:20 China's yes China's 21 yeah I'm sorry people I can't believe this was the ranking that actually set people off but yeah China's 21 for me because it's like the genre bear stuff is so uncomfortable to watch now and it has been for a long time but he was in his defense he was big braining it because he's of his mind he had a plan he had a narrative he is an actor he came in being like I'm going to start as this misogynist problematic man and I'm gonna learn to respect women and I'm gonna have a heart of gold like and here's the thing if he didn't have us come up in at the end with Courtney shutting him up like how many challenges did you win like shut up and like Jean R like it's such a satisfying ending and he wasn't in terms of like Monsters he wasn't a terrible person he was just a jackass like thing in their camp like trying to like put the girl like putting his arms on the girls and everything and like trying to rub on them it's like it's and they show it and it's played for laps it's played for laps that's weird to me it's not comfortable it's not comfortable but I do think it was dealt with they at least confronted it I mean

10:54:40 I don't know compared to what happened in 39 which like actually like I couldn't watch Survivor for a while after that like I don't think I ever felt exactly the same which is scary to think this is how I am now and I'm like oh no I'm just like really reserved about Survivor now like you know it's different but this is me tempered but like okay I mean it's valid but I just I feel like it checks off so many boxes I'm horrified but it's fine but like I am horrified to think that like there are 20 Seasons you prefer yeah how is it said in the same breath on the same line that all stars was like it's not Allstars is 38 If All Stars was what like Oh I thought oh I saw in your chat before I thought all stars was like one you were oh God no allar 3 okay never mind no all stars absolutely not no I hate all stars no China I love I like China is a fun season China has a fun winner kind is a final really fun final three one of the only times we get a final three that all three people catch a vote I think all three people catch votes

10:56:00 What episode am I on I'm on episode 10 halfway through 10 are you back I can't hear you but I can see you moving does anyone hear that buzzing sound can you hear me you can't hear me I can't hear you either there's this oh I can't hear anything you're saying okay by Claire so that was Claire she's great and we will probably get her for 50 and couple of years all right so we are slowly but surely getting through this we are halfway done with episode 10 we are three minutes away from hitting the 11th Hour and I'm still vibing I'm still having a good time it's all right Claire we'll see Justice for chat yeah I'm sorry I'll send you the whole list after this is done so you can yell at me for everything

10:57:21 But where was I going with this I think at the end of this episode I will post number 20 and then we can kind of start yeah Claire's amazing I she was one of the first people that I met when I joined the online side of the community so one of the first people that I met in real life when I joined the side of the community she's awesome we're at final eight we're at final eight I think at this point obviously I was still rooting for Liz who I thought was going to win at this point was probably Kenzie I think at this point I was like okay I can't really see anyone else maybe Tiffany but I think I was letting bias get ahead like I just didn't want Charlie to win I didn't see Marie winning H winning but I definitely thought that it was going to be Kenzie by this point in the game but I was still rooting for Liz of course I was still rooting for Liz so what's the Twisted final eight oh the rice yeah if four people so have

10:58:41 Like I mentioned earlier yeah I mean my favorite scene of China is when Jamie and PG throw the challenge and Jeff asks are you good at any are you good at puzzles PG she says I'm good at sodoku and James says sodoku pay attention anytime I have a friend or whatever say that they're going to be doing sidoku I say sidoku pay attention because it's such an iconic line oh PG and Claire have the same birthday cool PG's hot PG was hot PG still is hot and she was also very fun Sharia I've met Tria once she was really nice she probably should have stayed longer than John rer but that tribal Courtney tried to save her yeah Courtney was trying to save her and Todd just did not want to lose genre bear you have to get more of them yes we were one of my favorite pictures is a picture of me and Claire at the Survivor 41 Premiere party where I was still

11:00:02 Making a lot of money and I just bought a shot I just bought shots for everyone the entire night which was an experience all right we are now in the 11th hour so I'm going to post the link and I think I might do this one more time before the finale but I appreciate everyone that has been in and out throughout the day both in the chat and you know joining me on camera it's been it's been a lot of fun I very much was the man that night I'm kidding yeah it was it was it was a fun night I look for I do plan on doing a the 47 Premiere because I had I didn't do anything for 40 four through I didn't do anything for 45 or 46 Asar premere or finale and I do miss that you know that atmosphere of being around Survivor fans I probably won't go to like the bigger parties but like there are smaller parties that I can go to in New York City where I can still have just as much fun and spend less money so I probably I'm G to do that all right so we are going to find the link we're going to post the link

11:01:22 Nullified take do I watch Big Brother did okay well first I did not get an energy drink but I did eat lunch and I did use the bathroom drink water and all that big brother I watched all the seasons post covid because of the diversity campaign I especially watched last season because three was on it and I was never going to miss that but outside of that no I really have I watched season one and two when they aired back in the day and that's it and I know season one people don't even consider actual big brother but it's fine copy link Twitter entering yeah Big Brother's fine did you make you yeah eventually I'll probably try it out not I'm absolutely not going to watch it like this but like I've heard enough about the show to know that you know it is probably something that's on my alley yeah I season one the problem with season one and big brother

11:02:42 Is it just it's just forever it just takes forever ever to and so by the time I watched so I watched season two when it aired and then I just never watched after that but you know I thought the theme I thought the concept was compelling and obviously you know I know they changed it a lot with adding the vetos and all that entering the 11th Hour of the live stream at final [Music] eight been a fun ride with guest and all right RoR 46 and 46 Seasons 46 days it continues paste we'll do that again and post

11:04:03 Yeah we're in the 11th hour I'm honestly surprised that I that I'm still going I'm gonna reposted that oh no repost okay I think this is Maria's I think Maria wins this challenge she WIS I think she wins this challenge I'm still thinking about oh no don't worry I'm not come on I'm not going to give up after 11 hours at this point I know I planned for 13 I thought you get the TNT award the summer for the most content by one TNT podcaster thank you very well thank you very much you're doing great thank you like I said soon as I'm done with this I'm GNA go to sleep for many hours and then I'm going on a trip starting tomorrow night I can't say where I'm going but once again it's not I'm not going to go play Survivor or anything but I'm going to off for a few days and you know I'm looking forward to not watching Survivor for two months

11:05:23 And I'm excited for 47 you know I as we especially as we get closer to 50 I my interest level which is never really wavered just continues ah it we'll do number 20 right now just to we're going to do number 20 so this is a season that has fallen down a lot but I still enjoy it for the most part it's Survivor race Force Cook Islands I think that the cast is very topheavy there's a lot of forgettable people pre-merge I think that what sa what obviously saves the season is the sto the I24 storyline I think that Ule is great I think that you know I'm not the biggest Azie fan but I think that he plays his role well in that group of four I think the fact that we get pener from this we get poverty 1.0 we get Nate who is very underappreciated as a as a character because she I mean he is the first person that parvy ever flirts with on the show

11:06:43 And I mentioned this during the micro Pro pod party comes off as a bit of a chocolate Chaser in her first two seasons you know she goes after Nate and then she goes after James which is you know great for me Cowboy you know yes Cowboy is a game changer yes you know cowboy was a very fun character and without knowing it changed the game forever you know split the vote is now just a thing the God on yes okay so the god idle and I know that's people like to kind of use that against ues wi I don't think that's what cla's doing right here but they he try to use that as against you as far as oh hit the godle it's like yeah they did I mean he did but it didn't really matter because that forsome was never going to waiver and if you're silly enough to not at least take a shot then that's all on y'all this is the last season of the guide Idol until we get the Tyler Perry Idol and Kagan and they try to claim it's the first time we've ever had an idol like this which is not the case yeah Nate was Nate was a bro like I would say Nate and Shawn Rector as far as the well and Davey but from 37 are the three black males

11:08:04 That you know I would love to see come back and I feel like only one of those three would actually have a legitimate chance of coming back yeah can't blame other players on uctions decisions I agree but also they were trying to like in 11 they had the Gary hogaboom Idol where you could play it before the votes were cast 12 we have the god Idol and Terry almost goes to the end thank God he doesn't and then in 13 we get we get the last version of the god AO before we get the real version in Fiji yeah we get everyone's favorite hero Candice one of my favorite things about Cook Islands is the fact that she just continuously gets sent to Exile Island and we're supposed to feel sorry for her I understand that she was just trying to get back with her OG tribe I get it but she's a traitor and she stepped off and Azie Ule sundra and Becky you know Becky at the auction where she got to pick who to send and steal their money and she says Candice and Yu's face of like oh man we're really doing this again and Candace they keep giving Candace all this oh feel bad for

11:09:24 Her like you know she it sucks on exile it's like yeah you're right it does but I don't feel for her and then we get her versus Villains where she immediately flips again she's a flipper and then in blood versus water she does an Al welcome and she does a different type of flipping in that situation where she flips off Brad Co pepper but yeah we don't get a chance for K to flip in blous water and I would have to imagine that she probably would have Darnell yeah I Darnell got the out of the stick especially being on that tribe with Scott and Jason I've got words but I'm not going to she's a hot blonde doctor I will never feel bad for her yeah I mean that's all true I Andy who I had on for sandan Del sir he I whenever I play in games I always ask who their who their all-time Survivor crush is and Andy said the Cody's he was like Candace and John Cody are arees and I'm just like I've never heard of John Cody I've never heard of a John Cody stand before but like good on you I would say that he's an attractive Mill

11:10:47 How far how much left do we have in this episode we have about 14 minutes left in episode 10 we are 1110 into the Stream So I think me selling it as a 13 hour stream it's probably lowballing I think it's going to probably be closer to 14 hours because I gotta imagine that the finale is two hours and I'm actually going to watch your Survivor crushes Darnell all right I mean he's an attractive guy I that's I guess that's surprising not because of is that yeah Andy loved the Cody's it was it was it was definitely a shock I am surprised that darell is your now that I'm thinking about more I'm very surprised that Darnell is ear Crush out of other people that I feel like you would I don't know okay so it's because of his height okay that's fine it's because it's height whatever and work for the post office I don't

11:12:07 I don't really put much talk into to height well I can't because well I mean I would never anyway but I can because I'm 5'6 who goes home this episode oh Tiffany goes home this episode with an Isle in her pocket yeah yes he was a hard worker and he the they voted him out because he the goggles fell off his face or whatever because I don't think Scott and Jason were ever gonna not vote out Darnell first that's if you want to talk hot taks I think they were always going to vote out him or Sydney first if everyone that understands what I'm saying was graduating college he was a swim instructor yeah you're preaching through the choir I Darnell's fine I'd like Darnell you don't have the goods me I'm sure Q is tall do you like Q oh man my voice is really starting to go to oh my God all right so I don't know who's going to hop in here next I

11:13:31 Think Phil messaged me if I if I picked up on his hint from earlier I haven't even gotten a chance to like look wait what why do you know all these people's Heights off top of your head how okay I know what's next after okay I think that my number 19 might ruffle some feathers but it's fine we'll wait a little bit this is Tiffany right I think it's Tiffany Darnell I mean that's I used to say the same thing about Hannah Shapiro but then Liz came into my life and it's never been the same honestly I would yeah he's 6'5 and a half oh okay well okay I haven't put on my glasses in a while and I was wondering why I'm like straining to read what's going on the screen

11:14:52 Because I can't see who else are we still have a fair few people that are supposed to drop in throughout the night so I look forward to that who this oh who are you anyway God I'm so hungry again I really need to do anything I don't think I watched this episode no I had to because this is this is the I'm pissed episode so I had to I just remember a lot of this happen well and like I keep saying because I finished well because 40 four days before I started the marathon 46 is just kind of a blur to me did you mention earlier that you played coach rugby I thought you said you went to Australia because of it was a few hours ago is that what you coach yes yeah

11:16:12 I my career rugby coach I've been doing that for eight years I went to Australia when I was 14 years old as like a i gift for you know graduating Middle School I was ready go off to High School so I went to Australia the family I lived with they all played rugby so voila wait so what is your criteria for the season rankings can you go over that yeah it's how they resonate with me like I don't do I think that China like historically is better than some of the ones I have in the 20s no but just how I respond to them that's why CH I feel like this is just because of the China thing but yeah China's 21 China used to be like 15 or whatever for me ironically it's just China doesn't do it for me like it does it for other people and that's all right we all have opinions and I understand that mine is probably wrong in some of you guys' eyes but yeah once again China's in the top half of my favorite Seasons so but that's my criteria just how they resonate with me and especially watching it how I watch it

11:17:33 Watching it in order you know some seasons do kind of fall and some seasons do kind of Rise vanatu both times that I've done this all three times that I've done this vanu has always like gone higher and higher on the list for me it's just am I entertained do I find players that I resonate with gameplay yeah sure whatever location is fun and China's location is amazing rewatchability and yeah when I was a kid I used to get up early in the morning to watch Australian Rules Football we went to Australia when I was 14 I'm not big in the sport for some reason I watched that as a kid yeah Al Rules Football is insane like I know I play rugby and all that but ules football is for crazy yeah there are some great Seasons like the top 10 is already full so I get it yeah and my top 10 I can't imagine people will disagree with most of them I don't I can't see anyone disagreeing with any

11:18:53 Of them if being honest but we'll get there soon as Tiffany goes home I'll post number 19 and I like 19 I'm gonna give youall heads up I like it because it's just so chaotic and no one really knows what they're doing but the characters are fun we've got a fair few returnees from it Jesus look at that gut oh my God Claire I'm looking at the one of the pictures just sent me and my gut is apparent my co gut what picture am I looking for though I'm looking [Music] for another one I'll find it oh I've already sent it to you I sent it to you a while ago no I already did gabone was 34 gamone was 34 it's I mentioned it's I've never watched Total Drama Island but I just assume that's what Total Drama Island is it's just a bunch of cartoon characters and this is just the liveaction version of I appreciate that the co gut is still

11:20:13 Bothering me no gabon's not I'm not even going to I'm not even gabone is low for a reason I understand that like oh it's funny because it's so it's yeah but also Gabon is actually not fun where did I know I sent CLA picture a while ago also I love Li oh my God I just got to the just got to the point in our conversation where I sent you that interaction I had with her yeah this picture Claire I think that's a you can't see the you can't see the co G what's TDI what's TDI I don't know what TDI is yeah nothing that is true like Gabon is it's a

11:21:33 It's a cartoon and oh to yeah so I think I mentioned that earlier I do want to watch Total Drama Island just because I've heard enough about it over the last however many years I didn't watch it when it was first airing I know they just recently came out with another season but I want I can confirm my belief that gabone is just to toal Drama Island and the cast brings a drama yeah it's also very recruit heavy Randy is probably the biggest fan on the show and Randy is a big fan yeah Jillian picking suie is her first pick like what is what is happening here what is what who is this jackass oh Dan he died no Dan's the lawyer who was the what was it Marcus was the doctor Crystal after she got her gold medals taken away for steroids and it just ironically you know yep yeah Marcus gets sniped out because they because of crazy

11:22:54 Twists honestly and I said this during the gabone Pod at that final three based off of their performances there I would have voted for Susie because she's the only one actually answering questions Dr Bob is basically saying oh yeah I was following sugar and Sugar's basically like oh I don't really care and it's like oh my God Randy is willing to vote for you and if Randy is willing to vote for you that means that a lot of these other people are probably willing to vote for you and yet sugar just kind of lays down I think that yeah Kenny was probably the best player in the season until he got he get too big for his Bridges towards the end and tries to start big braining everything and so they get rid of his ass but I really like Kenny I think that yeah by far the best player in the season I think MD Matty's fun Matty's fun yeah he got too cocky yeah if Kenny had just chilled for a bit I think that Kenny could have gotten to gotten to the end Tiffany's tiffy's being B right now Q smile

11:24:14 Yeah how you guys not like you played an online Survivor game with someone claiming to be Kenny it's entirely possible he's he's an online gamer so I yeah they the Maddy GIF is the most iconic thing about gabone and that's not really a knock one the season in that in that respect because I do think that gif is once again on like the actual Bad season so like Redemption island South Pacific and things like that I would just sit on the funny 115 and just read all of those and when that entry came up the sugar Karin Matty one it's like yeah that is the that is the scene from That season I know the confessional where they vote out Randy probably an honorable mention [Music] but I really enjoy I really enjoy the GIF all right that is the end of episode 10 we are

11:25:35 Slowly get I remember hating Ace and then watching it this time he still annoyed the out of me but like sugar did just kind of get DED into voting him out so that is I guess Justice for Ace I guess yeah that's true okay starting episode [Music] 11 at 801 starting at 8:01 p.m. and we'll do ahead and do number 19 a drum roll please I'm pissed her accent really comes out in that too H how can you hate Liz all right number 19 is this number 19 is San Juan deler because I love Natalie's Revenge

11:26:55 Arc not only for them getting rid of Nadia but for them getting rid of Jeremy and she kind of plays circles around everyone at the merge once Jeremy is gone I Jackie did you vote for who I told you to vote for is an iconic scene I remember when arap was covering the scene and Stephen and Rob at first I thought it was you know on purpose but I realized they kept calling Missy muffin I think on accident this ironically I think that Missy is probably my crush on That season which is wild it's just a bunch of people that don't know what they're doing you know Drew chrisy getting once again too cocky and going out them trying to bar for the Flint them trying to give back the new Flint them eating all of the rice and have to giving away all of it so they can get you know more rice even though the merge is coming up pretty much right afterwards the fact that the three best players well the two best players on the season I did not rank Borneo yet the two best players in the season get voted out back to back at the merge Kelly Wentworth goes home early because she's looked at as a threat because she knows the which once again shows

11:28:15 That this cast is mostly made up of recruits that read speech is a lot it's damn near uncomfortable but I enjoy it I remember when I did 42 and 42 and not and realizing that Reed and Josh had broken up and I was like oh well there's no hope for me then if two gay virgin Christians can't even stay together then where's the hope for me and I guess I'm only slightly joking sanan doer is I love it I love sanan doer it is it's a decent followup to the first blood versus water obviously I think the first one is Leaps and Bounds better do they play t yeah so that's the last time that they do touchy subjects because they try to game it so that Missy can go on the reward and Jeff gets pissed off yeah and Jeff gets pissed off and so he's like well this is just a farce and that's also where Reed calls Baylor brat and Missy gets pissed off with it yeah they started to play it they got rid of the people that were on the bottom and then they tried to fix it so that Missy won and yeah that kind of set off Jeff and so we haven't had it back since it's funny that in 29 they

11:29:35 Killed the touchy subjects Challenge and in 30 they killed the auction until 45 so I'm hoping that we can get touy Subic back at some point maybe for 50 yeah we have started episode 11 the next episode is the pen ultimate episode so we are if my math is right and it's probably not we're going to finish this around 12 oh G's here all right we got our next p Gman how are you doing man I'm doing well I came to say that San Juan dser is actually a top five season wow you okay I mean please go ahead we were we oh okay I guess while we're doing this I had china at 21 and the chat was not happy with me how do you feel about China and then also how do you feel why San do are your top five I would say that I like China but I simultaneously think that China is overrated I think that China sometimes gets looped in with the best seasons of all time but when you really think about it structurally you have a very obviously losing you know pre-

11:30:55 Merged tribe you have a boot order and a winner that comes off you know very predictable and you look past the top tier characters of the Season you know you're you know Courtney and your James and you're left with you know a fine rest of the C cast and then you have genro existing so like there's I think a big drop off in the terms of the quality of the cast from it's a topheavy cast you know someone else did say that too and before you get to say one eler I forgot to mention the whole Eric not the outside the game thing inside the game remember the first two times I watched China I thought that Eric with glasses and Eric without glasses were two different people because that's how irrelevant he was to me and so there would be like there would be times where I'm like who the hell is this guy and like Eric like that's that can't be right you know Eric wears glasses it's the Superman effect okay so why is sanan dser top five for you so for me the original concept of Survivor was you know you have these people and they create their new Society I would tell you that San Juan deler is one of the only examples ever where they did create their own Society of rules that don't exist in any other Survivor season ever the way they try to negotiate with Jeff probes the way that they traded their rewards

11:32:15 Off like it was nothing the way they broke an entire challenge the way that you have even at the final six a mom and a daughter a daughter has to convince a mom not to throw their entire game away just for some guy just the Dynamics that exist within sanan deler don't exist anywhere else in any other Survivor season was the gaml good here no even a legend like JY Collins you know has to learn the lessons because of his mistakes here where he built up you know the huge war of Jeremy versus Josh they both die because of it and then all of the you know Misfits end up ruling the day afterwards and it's a award-winning win from Natalie Anderson in my opinion throughout the end game stret that is totally underrated she kills it she's amazing and there's such a good narrative for the fact that this is one of the only Seasons where there's a gender disparity of 10 men eight women and you end up with at one point the entire jury is men and you're left with a female you know final three The Underdogs come out every edic prediction was wrong in this season which was another thing they're like Josh is gonna win nope Jeremy's gonna win nope John's gonna win nope because everyone underestimated Natalie including those stupid educar I love the San Juan D sir it is incredibly entertaining

11:33:35 Hi also malcol thank you for joining Malcolm we are we just started episode 11 so we've got two episodes left of 46 I guess going back to the question I've asking everyone all DED Malcolm what were your thoughts on 46 first of all just like coming in at the tail end of the Stan wal sir discourse it's like oh so true so accurate like all the points you know thoughts on 46 I'm thankful that we got 90minut episodes wait is this like spoiler-free can I like talk about you say whatever say yeah say whatever you want so like I'm thankful that we got 90 minute episodes because I think it would have been a much more harder time to depict why Kenzie wins in only 60 minutes because and I think we talked about it on like my podcast like the podcast I did with you when we talked about Michelle's win like the editors I don't think have ever really done a good job of editing a social game and I think they made it very clear that if Kenzie gets to the end it's because of her social prowess you know so like I think that's my overall thought process and I remember watching and I was like this is not a season for strategist

11:34:56 This is a season for like entertainment like because I was entertained but like the decision making and all of it I was like what are we doing here like there's a clear Duo here in Charlie Maria that just like no one wants to take care of and I think you know I felt so bad for Ben getting third place and like talk about getting purpled like you're the you're the second runner up and like there have been Runner UPS second runner ups that have had better edits than him like I think Xander I think about who Jake like I think about like even freaking Amanda K Owen even Owen I feel like got a better headache where at least we knew what was going on with Owen's game or at least his attempts to try and play the game I just felt like Ben was like hey I'm here why he can name over a hundred Metallica songs so like let's give him credit where credit is due and I do agree with you and I and I talked about this earlier where it's very similar to Erica where and it's the Alexis Jones effect of we have all we have bonu going to ship wheel island or whatever it's called at this point saying oh yeah Kenzie you know Kenzie's a threat Kenzie is goingon to win this game you know people

11:36:16 Are clocking Kenzie as a threat like when they go back to their tribes the first thing they say is hey Kenzie is a threat and we never really see we never really see it we just know that everyone is saying it which means it has to be true because these players wouldn't just be saying it if it wasn't true and I think that Erica got the same type of edit in 41 where these people are trying to throw a challenge to get rid of her and they still and she still survives and they keep saying oh yes Eric is a threat Eric is a threat we're not seeing it but and that I think everyone can agree that is a Survivor problem of they don't know how to edit social winners specifically social female winners German go ahead it's because you aren't really going to get a confessional of Kenzie where she's gonna say something like I'm a mastermind because I'm friends with everybody you know and editing that into an episode would feel super weird you know because Kenzie isn't going into a confessional I think bragging about how likable she is she's just likable so it's a lot harder for you know the producers to immediately edit that storyline where instead and the one thing I don't really love with 46 is there's too much Charlie confessionals they give him so much time to talk about strategy and numbers and everything but really at the end of the day he gets rid of Venus over Kenzie

11:37:36 And goes to the end with Kenzie when he had a perfect third person there Venus that he could have beat so his numbers and strategy didn't really no but he's smart white guy no he's smart white guy stop it he's smart white it I also want to say as well in terms of like Kenzie's Threat Level I feel like we did get a little bit of confessionals about her social game right like I think we heard a lot from her like her job as like a hair stylist and how she gets people comfortable to get them to talk and things that nature and you know she gets to build those connections like in 3 seconds because you are as someone that now has hair it's like you know I can have everybody just be all up in know so I definitely think we got tidbits which was much more than what we got from Erica like I think ER really would have benefited from 90 minutes because I think we might have gotten more confessionals as like what she was doing I still remember in 41 where they talked about Erica's relationship with Heather and in the audience I was like wait what the hell like that's important are they a clear Duo I must have missed that right yeah like there were there confessions about Erica Heather and I was like we have not seen that like at all I was it was just shocking so yeah well and my and it's funny I

11:38:56 Forgot about the whole hair salon thing as someone that grew up basically in a hair salon like yeah those are the most personal people you'll ever come across because they will just talk about anything and my mom will listen to anyone talk about anything and do the hair of almost anyone despite beliefs they would had have as we get as we start to wind down like I said we've got two episodes left which is insane that you know I've been doing this for 11 and a half hours have did you really complete it in 46 days yeah this is day 46 what are you doing after this he's mad I like tonight after I'm done with this yeah I'm gonna go to sleep for 10 for 10 hours sleep log off do nothing oh yeah congratulations on the accomplishment I love Survivor but not that much but like I just want to make sure you get your flowers for doing this in 46 days because that's a lot of episodes you know it is and planning to do 50 and 50 in years 5050 yeah but I'm stopping after I'm not I'm not doing anymore I was like I was like driving and I was like he wouldn't do 50 and 50 days that sounds crazy am I'm the one that's crazy because you're gonna really well that's why I reached out to all of y'all last night and you know

11:40:16 YouTu have hopped in we've had a lot of other people hop in throughout the day is because I do appreciate the fact that one that I was able like I've been I'm in this community and I can meet people like y'all you know me and German have never played in a game together we only really know each other because I worked PR for a game for him once Malcolm obviously we it goes but I had Abraham on here earlier and he we talked about Survivor diversity campaign so that was nice to really you know talk to someone that you know was impacted by that but I'm appreciative of the fact that I you know I have people that I can have talk about Seasons whether they're good or bad for an hour or two you know when I do these things and like I said earlier I'm mostly here for the bad this times yeah that's fair but the thing is like that I definitely I still pick and choose who I want because I know one I know a lot of people won't be able to talk about things but two I know that they're people that have deferring opinions that can still be respectful of others you know because I'm not going to have anyone that comes on here that's like a big Ben Browning person or something like that like it's going to be people that have some type of conscience so you two and I than everyone else thank you both so much for taking this is not saying leave it's not I'm just I want to make sure I get this out of the way now

11:41:37 So that if you do end up bouncing at any time between now and 11 o'clock or whenever I'm finished that but anyway I will be back most likely so okay see you for now all right I'll see you for now yeah you know what I'm gonna move on to the next okay so malcol I'm also doing a countdown like of my season ranks because I my ranking changed you know doing it like this so at number 18 we've got three 1.0 we've got Survivor Panama one of one of the craziest tribes that you're ever GNA get in the history of the show what's up you have Panama is number 18 yeah is that too what I'm just to hear like one through 17 well you okay you'll be here for 17 you might be here for all of them but 17 you're going up yeah 17 up to one yeah Oh I thought you were going like from one down oh you no I'm yeah I'm working my way up oh okay never mind yeah but Panama know so is it too for your in your opinion is that too low or too high no

11:42:57 You know thinking about it like 46 Seasons I feel like 18 is a is a good oh my God I met Claire at St Pats you met her at St Pats yeah she was in here she was in here about an hour ago where did you rank 44 where did I put 44 put 44 oh I put it 25 interesting okay but I think Panama is where it should be thank you I agree I think that so obviously Panama is kind of Saved by the fact there's a train tra a car crash tribe on it and it's full of these C we've got Shane who's going through nicotine addiction you've got Danielle who's the captain of sports you've got crazy Courtney you got arus who is portrayed as a fool in the first episode but like is probably the second most level-headed person there you've got Bruce and his zen garden and then you've got Siri who is supposed to be I mean realistically sir is supposed to be the first boot then sir is supposed to be the second boot on her new tribe and somehow is able to turn into a legend after just one season

11:44:18 She doesn't like if she doesn't come back from Micronesia I think that she's already in legendary status and I think legendary I think Micronesia just solidifies that you get you know this Terry storyline which I mean I'm not a Terry Deets person so like I am always rooting for his downfall during the season you know we get this is the where the god Idol is first introd produced as compared to the idol that we get in Guatemala I think that casting is very topheavy once again but like that top is very good because half of them are just crazy and the other one is c Ian Dan Fuego for some reason he's a legend among the community you know the fact that what was his name Nick who there were two generic white guys it was Nick and Austin I think Nick was the one that had very inspirational final words when he gets voted out yeah Sally was cute you know let me just say and this may be controversial like I think I got like you know some people standing and thirsting over I don't understand it man what's going on going on here I

11:45:38 I am a man of many tastes I have no type I have no Ty I yesterday well I think Davey said this first and then like he put me on to it Jamie in 40 four is both Island hot and real life like I think Jamie was my person for that is that is that is that weird is that is that a take no I don't think so but I think but there have been some tweets you that you talked about like oh I'm like standing her like because she's hot and I'm like you know what we all have different taste yeah Different Strokes for different folks man yeah I mean I mentioned Missy earlier from San yeah I don't huh you think Miss's hot no what you're talking about sorry what are your thoughts back to pan back to pan think about SP pan she had milk energy and she also looks like she hates can be hot like whatever I'm just I'm Andrew

11:46:58 Please back to Panama back to Panama go back to Panama talk oh what are my thoughts on ter getting third Spar I think there's probably credit because they love them some Terry Deets and I feel like they were starting to get tired of their favorites going home in third so but I think the problem is that with the final three right like with this thought process like I just wish that Survivor production just like let the story of the Season play out versus trying to do whatever it can to get like the story that they think is best for TV right like I say it all the time like we are just getting a Viewpoint of their experience you know and I think of like the experience that they played out and I think the constant manipulation of like from final two to final three the fir making it's like all right if you're doing all this and you still edge of Extinction for freaking Joe like if you're doing all this and your man's are still losing like then like he sucks like we gotta keep him moving you know what I'm saying but I think definitely with Terry you know for someone to be so dominant physically in the challenges and to like fail at the 11th

11:48:18 Hour like I'm sure that does stuck and I imagine from a producer hat it's like a damn it what the like what are we gonna do from here he was supposed to be our Great White Hope yeah but I think also the problem I also think the struggle now is that like unfortunately with Survivor jurries I feel like now that there's a final three it's usually just like either going to be a blowout of one person winning or the competition's really between two people right so like I don't ever think we've had and correct me find wrong you know you spent 46 days on this but if there was ever a compelling final three we not just which one China Amanda flopped she did flop but like Amanda was the front runner going into that and then she flopped but I would say that was the fact that all three of them caught votes and yeah like watching it I probably would have voted for Todd I felt like the three of them were a compelling but you're talking about end the moment so you're talking about the oh if that's the case one world I think that Sabrina Kim and Chelsea put on a great performance there with the three of them I think that from there 31 32

11:49:38 I can make compelling as one world was Chelsea still got zero votes you're right but I do feel like the three of them put on a put on a good show there I know at HHH all three of them got votes but like right 39 was just chaotic because all three of them just kept talking over each other 40 was a great like even though Michelle gets no votes I feel like Tony Natalie and Michelle put on probably the best final tribal that we've gotten like they all make great cases and I think that if it was Sarah instead of Tony there the votes would have been spread out even like actually a lot more than the blowout that Tony gets didn't cut you off though but no it's okay I just think that's my gripe a little bit with final 3es is that at the end of the day like there will be a front runner or there's going to be someone that's like completely shut out from like contention or like from those conversations because you know were picking between these two so again it goes back you know what I wish I wish that it wasn't always a final three like I kind of like earlier a final two kind of unsuspectingly right so even keep the players on their toes in terms of like decision making

11:50:58 A winner and stuff like that maybe switch it up a little bit because that final three your thought process is like all right who's my goat or who's the one person I know is not going to have any type of chance right so even when you were mentioning with this season the fact that Charlie just didn't take Venus or didn't take Q right like I think it could have been very and I think that's why I kept on saying that for this season like this isn't a season of strateg it's because you let you don't get rid of Venus you don't get rid of Q like people that you just know 100% you're they're not going to get votes so how do you bring them to the end and it would be on someone like a Kenzie or a Ben to get try and get rid of them but for Charlie and Maria to be such a power Duo it's like look if we bring one of them to the end you know me and you got 50-50 shot and even at four right let's say if Q wins immunity he probably brings Maria you know I don't I don't know I just think that like for Charlie Maria to control the whole season and to really flounder which I think strategically made no sense for them to get rid of to Target Venus and Q respectively right like if Maria had Q Charlie I feel like should have had Venus because that's fair yeah Maria was playing her I think Maria was playing her own game of like cu's my

11:52:19 Like my Ace in a hole just in case whereas for Charlie should have been Venus as his Ace in the whole just in case right like I would have loved to have seen them kind of like a wendelin and Dom where it's like hey we are lock step but here I'm here where I'm gonna like try and one up you know what I'm saying like yeah and we both know that we're probably going to send the other one to fire if either one of us wins immunity we just kind of we know this is going to happen as long as we can get to this point let the best person win I do want to bring up this Melinda thing because if I remember correctly so I'm 33 I'm fairly certain Melinda was the was on the old women's cast and she was 32 years old so I was very offended by that I think what's also interesting because I have to go soon I oh if your name is Bruce yeah I have no comment go ahead Bruce from Panama shout out to him the end yeah but I think oh where was I going with that damn Miss's where I draw the line I think when it comes to like just overall like I'll put a bow on like 46 as well as Panama I think was a

11:53:39 Really good winner I also appreciate that r like Road for sir throughout the entire time I think sometimes you know thinking about like Survivor diversity campaign and stuff like that I think it's very easy that the black players kind of get discarded when they're no longer needed and ours still was trying to bring Siri to final three so like I really appreciated that as I'm looking at it again also the age disparity is kind of funny because like as someone that's also 33 if I was put on the old tribe I would be my confessionals cursing someone out because I'm like time for this like how are we finding old here like I'm not a senior citizen like you know what I'm saying so I think that's funny and then again just to talk about 46 just a little more before I go I think Kenzie's a great winner deserving winner I appreciate the social game aspect of it and I you know I'm not going to get into like the after effects of the season but like controversial decision I mean I don't understand it but I'm not going to attack the woman online for voting away because I wasn't like I was ready for Charlie to lose anyway so like I don't give a but I think also like if anything that should speak more to Charlie's gameplay like the person that you worked with l