Survivor Gabon Review

0:00 And we are back with day 17 of Survivor 46 and 46 Dr Bob just won Survivor gabone against suie and sugar I know that gabone has a lot of fans I don't know if they are ironic fan like the types of fans that like coach where it's like okay this I feel like this is a joke or if they actually like gabone so I want I'm glad today for the first time we have Austin and for the fourth third or fourth time we have mcken back both from DCP production I don't even know where to start I guess starting from I want to ask you guys this question if you actually know the answer to this because I actually don't know when people say recruit what exactly does that mean like I cuz I felt like this was a recruited season and then during the I actually watched the recap episode and all of them had audition videos so what exactly is a recruit I mean they might have recruited them but had them make a

1:20 Tape like at this point they might be saying like hey we want you to play you're in but just like do this thing I don't know Austin I honestly don't that's one thing I've also never really understood is like what it means when someone is quote unquote recruited versus like normally applying to the show because there are especially pre-merge there are so many people that I'm just like there's no way you act exist in real life let alone exist in real life and applied for this show and actually got on Jillian's a prime example it's just I didn't get it and we start from the very beginning with them picking tribes and there is one person that very clearly knows how to pick a tribe One Survivor and there's one person that very clearly doesn't we need a mom over here yeah I'm just like what is what is happening and you feel the pre merge I feel so bad for Maddie more than anyone else because he just ends he just keeps on ending up on these tribes that have they can't do anything you've got the Once Upon a Time gold medalist and outside of that you've got like G Sizzle stop it when they when I totally forgot he went by his first

2:41 Name there and then he was like OMG Sizzle I'm like that's embarrassing stand for Golden Child Golden Child yeah I so honestly I forgotten that part too until I think Randy makes a reference to it Austin we're going to start with you do you feel like most of the fans that like this season like it ironically or do you feel like they see a lot of Merit to what happens in the season I think it's a little bit of both honestly for me specifically like I enjoy the season it's not like one of my like top favorites but part of the reason why I like it's probably like 25% Nostalgia because it was the very first season that I watched live my parents started with season two and then I picked it up when I was in Middle School so this was the first season I watched live so it kind of holds a special place in my heart in that sense but I feel like in general gone has like a little bit of everything to be honest like you have two pre-merge tribe swaps which is insane which is insane and you know you got Idol plays you

4:01 Have fake Idols there's just it has pretty much it has something for everybody and I feel like Gabon also has a lot of diverse characters as well you've got people that like you love to hate and then you pe have characters that are just overall likable you have ones that are just there yeah they're just there like Jackie and Kelly yeah I was like going to be like the two blondes Jackie seemed like she was actually in a pretty decent spot and what the I mean once again I don't believe in stop screwed but she did kind of get screwed with that whole thing yeah but like I wasn't really pining for Jackie to go far in the game anyway so it doesn't matter McKenna I dislike the bone very much so I just hate how it just feels so negative the area of Africa that they're in it just makes it feel dirty rather than Earth last Eden like when they pan over the landscape it's beautiful but when it's at Camp it's like this gritty like dirty camp and then they're being mean

5:21 To each other so it just has this like Haze for me I'm just like not great well and I so I will disagree on that aspect only because this is you know in real time I'm finally on the HD Seasons so like when the show first when the first episode first starts I'm just like wow this looks amazing and it doesn't matter the camp is like you said it is yeah but it's just like okay this is this just feels like a nice change of pace because I haven't really gotten a chance to watch much TV outside of this for the last two and a half weeks so like going back to watching things in HD has been so refreshing and I would say that's one of the few positives that I have for this season is the HD and this is the best variation of the theme song that we ever get in my opinion I think the only thing that I could put close to is maybe like Africa which is ironic I love like I didn't skip the intro this is the first time I haven't skipped the intro since like Cook Islands I believe but outside of that and I do this is not me [ __ ] on the season because I do think there is there is Merit to this season I think that a lot of players in the season that are looked at as jokes actually do a lot and we're going to start with sugar so sugar you know we have the Sugar Shack and that you know we know about

6:41 You know her catching no votes at the end and all that but like if you watch the if you watch the season anytime sugar is involved with a vote she's basically determining what happens every single time includ like whether she's being emotional or not and there's a lot of times she's being emotional with it is still the determining factor for when Ace goes if you want to skip all the way to the end when Maddie goes what are our thoughts on sugar Austin do you have thoughts on sugar in gabone I enjoy sugar for the most part I feel like she in general played a very good game it's just however she obviously didn't get vult at the end for the sake of like feeling people feeling like they like she backstabbed them I guess like maybe she didn't like do a good job with a pitching her game at the end she didn't really fight for it to begin with and B I don't think she like managed the jury that well either I've got thoughts about that can I go ahead though because I want to touch on Sugar's final trial I think she is a player who was like came into the game because she was like a model

8:01 She was looked at as a lesser player than someone who is wearing a suit in the game right so I feel like she's already starting on a bottom foot now being exiled so many times getting like [ __ ] on by people and like just be jury management might not have been great pitching herself might not have been great I think she just kept digging deeper into the hole that everybody threw her in the beginning and so I agree so all you two and then this comment right here all basically said the same thing and I do agree with most of what y'all are saying the one thing that I will say is I do feel like I mean even though she didn't she didn't manage them perfectly based off of people's you know right as they're walking in trial everyone has their words like oh I expect this it did seem like a fair few people were giving sugar the chance and a lot of people were trying to lead her with some of the questions for her to answer them correctly even Randy says oh yeah sugar played a good game I just want her to say this that and the other and I'll probably vote for her and then whener just does she does not care she doesn't give Randy anything and you see him move over to Bob and then Bob kind of drops the ball and he's like please don't make me vote for Susie

9:22 It's like yeah Randy I think Charlie was another one that I think at least had thoughts about voting for sugar crystal was looking for a reason to vote for sugar and sugar goes oh you were mean to everyone that's why I voted you out I'm like oh my God like she had I think that there is a path to her winning that game at that moment because she was the one stirring a lot of the votes and she did have a potential of getting of winning the game one because no one ever voted for her and she was really never on anyone's on anyone's radar but she just really dropped the ball the main thing about this final six as a whole is they all just dro the ball at the worst time and it's like a comedy of errors once again like I talked about yesterday with Amanda today it's just like they all of them I feel like had a path and they just [ __ ] the bed in the worst way do you feel like so we do get sugar back in a couple Seasons oh God it's only for an episode what were her heroic tendencies in this season that you feel they saw it and were're like we need her back as a hero I think it comes back to almost the Candace effect too with she was on exile

10:42 So many times and survived it and used the idol like it didn't just like sit in her bag she used it and it Ma MADD got votes negated so I think there's like things where you know Bob is creating this fake necklace cuz he can't find the idol and all of a sudden like sugar is the one who is finding the idol I feel like it definitely has to do with her Exile stays I feel like there's something to be said about like even her connection with Bob though too of like because you see when she is deciding whether or not to like let Bob go to fire like she has this connection with him because she recently lost her dad and he's like the Father Figure to her out there so I think like in a lot of ways sugar is a very relatable character in a lot of senses and people like gravitate towards that so I can see why that would be a reasoning behind you know bringing her back in that hero role yeah and I also feel like and I went through the math today and I don't know how it took me until this time watching to realize oh they were just trying to get as many people from 9 to 19 and just forgot nine for some reason as far as that cast for Heroes versus DS but we're going to talk about that on Friday

12:03 Overall I did I liked sugar more this time than I've ever liked her watching this season in the past I do feel like yes she the crying does become a lot towards the end but outside of that even some of the conversations she's having with people like when they when they decide they're going to go after Ken when Ken's have when Kenny has this idea that he wants to give or he wants Bob to give him the necklace sugar goes to Bob and says hey this is what's going on and then she goes back and tells Maddie hey just let me do the talking and we will be fine and it's like yeah that's a that's I was I felt like I had just forgotten that actually happened but she's sitting there saying like taking control of a situation and yes it's all based off of emotion but like it that's fine as long as you get to that end point and can defend it and that's where the problem comes in is because she didn't she didn't even expect to catch votes she says when they're walking to tribal she say I think I might get one it's like that's insane based off of what you just did the reason why sugar gets no votes the entire season people might be looking at her as a goat but they also needed her in like every vote like you were saying before like she's not catching votes because

13:23 Both sides are trying to get her for their side of the vote yeah she's easily like one of the biggest like poster children for the swingboat yeah she's the swingboat the entire time and except for well no she wasn't even at that tribal Susie was the and I guess we can move on to Susie because Susie is pretty much in the same spot at least pre merge and I think the reason that she didn't get those four votes those first four people on the jury is because they were upset that she flipped on them when the merge hit or like right before the merge hit right and I think that's upsetting because Charlie did seem like a game player that respected game Randy seemed like a game player that respected game despite you know him being a common he did he was going to vote for sugar or he was potentially going to vote for sugar so why do you think that the four of them were so upset with Susie when they told her to her face she is number six what else was she supposed to do in the situation just kind of okay we'll go it's all it's nalia esque I was just gonna say the John Carol effect it's Malia esque where they just could not handle the fact that they flipped the game like that and I felt

14:43 Bad for Susie because I do feel like Susie of the three perform the best at that final tribal and for me watching the final tribal I vote for Susie over the other two because and we'll get to Bob in a little bit Susie you know she was being very confident with her answers she was giving the only answer she didn't give was when Ken said you know we'll have you take your vocal cords out or whatever and it's like yeah I would say no to like [ __ ] you why do you think the do you think that just at face value it's just the four of them were so upset that she flipped or do you feel like they actually thought that Bob played better than her and had a better performance at final traval I don't know man I feel like it is a is a tad of like bitterness but I think they also might have just liked Bob more like even personally they might have been like well I was burned by suie and I like Bob and hell with sugar so that like that's where they went like I mean Randy was like I don't want to vote for any of you but I'm forced to this is my least desirable option a final three and it is you guys yeah awesome

16:04 I mean I'll Echo that I literally think it's a combination of bitterness and who they liked more yeah and it's an I won't say it's annoying because I mean as I go through this that is very much how a lot of juries especially in the recruitment era vote anyway so I shouldn't be too surprised and it's funny because and before I get to Bob I want to talk about the person that I felt like was act playing the best game this season which was Kenny I feel like Kenny was I won't call him under or underrated because I do feel like people give him his flowers but I do feel like Kenny got too big for his britches at the final six final seven final six because I do feel like he had set himself up very well to get to the end and then he got you know he had this not I won't say the delusions but he almost it's almost the Christy effect from Amazon where he realizes that he's in control and he vocalizes it to his family visit and then all of a sudden he loses all control because he tries to get like I said too big for his britches hey Bob you know you screwed me so now you have to give me the idol or whatever it's like I don't it's it's so

17:25 Embarrassing how the wheels fall off of every single person in this game Susie not shutting up when they after she wins final four which allows Bob because sh he's so pissed off that he gets sugar to vote for Maddie instead it's what are our thoughts on Kenny before we go any further our thoughts on Kenny a I love Kenny was one of my favorites watching the season for the first time and cuz like I feel like it was someone I could late to cuz I grew up like playing video games and stuff like that so like when I'm in you know I'm in middle school watching Survivor for the first time and I see someone like that who plays video games and I'm like oh I can relate to that and I just thought he played yeah he played a very good game for sure yeah I hate Kenny oh W okay speak away I am not a Kenny fan I was actively rooting against both him and Crystal I was I disliked both of them I wanted them off my screen and was very happy when they got voted out so what is it about Kenny I don't know it's just like he is too big for his britches I feel like he felt like he was Top Dog

18:46 And then everything kept and then everything kep came crumbling down like the first interaction we see is like oo I don't want to vote out the hot girl and it's like dude you're not getting with her anyway how do you know yeah come on honestly afterwards who's to say but I will say that I don't think I was a I won't say because he does he does end up voting for her to go I think that if you want to look at why the season in a nutshell is just so embarrassing is the fact that the wrong person went home first round because the wrong person went home the first round when it should have been Jillian and it's not and I do feel like after that Kenny kind of read the room and realized oh these people suck like they I feel like Kenny could do could sit there and be like The Mastermind because he Reds the room and sees oh yeah these people are not any good at anything that's going on here they have no idea how this game works and I think that if he had just stayed the course he had Kota people saying that they wanted to vote for him at the end you know when Karen goes out Ken

20:06 Or Randy one of the two says like I really like Kenny this that and the other it looked like Charlie and what's the doctor's name Matt Mark what is his name Marcus it seemed like they were a little happy that when he got voted out but that could just be whatever I do feel like probably wins against anyone in the final six I think the hardest his hardest Road would probably be against Bob but not really because Bob of the way that Bob perform at final tribal anyway I feel like Kenny wins of that final six and it's just once again I know I keep using this phrase but I have it stuck in my head he got big for his britches and you know he instead of staying the course he just he just collapsed and so but it's so funny that you say that you don't like Kenny because of that duo I didn't like Crystal I've never liked Crystal today and I don't I still don't like love Crystal or anything but like today I finally understood why she does have such a large fan base and because she's another one where it's like these are it's the season of the cartoon characters I've never watched Total Drama Island I'm just assuming this is what that show is like I don't know

21:26 But it's just these people are just I was embarrassed watching the first episode of this season CU it was so bad but I think that's worthy if it was if people came to me and said they ironically like gabone I'd get it because I ironically like it after it was hard to get through but I it was fine it was funny if you just put 20 people that don't know what they're doing out or 18 out on not even on an island in the middle Africa to say hey play Survivor that's what you got that's very much what you got there's a certain level of it being such a cluster cuss that it's entertaining yes I know all right I've gotten some ha I just personally don't like keny I'm not arguing that he's bad or that he's good it's just I'm not a fan of Kenny's no I get it I get why I mean I don't who's a really good player that I'm not a fan of oh I mean the easy answer would be like I don't know I can't think of anyone now because I was

22:46 I wasn't gonna say a certain person's name because I don't think he's a good player everyone knows who I'm talking about I'm talking about him in two days and then the next day after that the rest of this final Maddie I know we brought we know we touched on him earlier as far as I felt horrible for him Prem merge because he just he was just always from the Jabron tribe every single time he just ended up being with these people that don't know what they're doing and that they suck they suck at challenges the one where they have to like they're like tossing the ball it's basically playing keep away and he's yelling at Sugar like CU she's just sitting there laughing at everything it's like I can't I can't deal with Maddie having to go through this and then Maddy kind of shoots himself in foot by aligning with Ace which I don't I don't Ace is just another in a long line of cartoon characters and I do feel like sugar did screw him because he wasn't trying to come after her but I was also happy he was gone but I do also feel like Maddy made the wrong decision side siding with him and that is what ultimately costs him oh no not ultimately cost him but almost does when Crystal and try to make take him out later in the game we everyone knows I don't believe in the phrase robbed you either win or you lose do we feel like Maddie is the robbed God of this season

24:07 Or you just think there is no robbed God because everyone SES he lost fire he lost fire yes I agree like was he probably the more favored person to win yes but he lost fire like that's the you could say the same for 44 Carson was like one of the favorite I know all right Carson was the faor to win at that fir making but he lost yeah so it's just I don't you won't hear it from me but I just I just wanted I'm just putting it out there because I know that some people believe in this whole robbed thing is Maddie this robbed God or did he just lose Austin I think he just loses he just loses okay yeah I don't like aie for everyone that was here yesterday I don't like Azie specifically in Micronesia as a player I'm sure he's great in real life as we go through the rest of the finals oh Dr Bob Dr Bob so this time I tried to pay more attention to the games of the final three plus Maddie and I do think that Dr Bob you know I know that he has this rep as being oh the worst winner

25:27 That's not Chris under would and I'm just like okay fine but Dr Bob does do a lot this season that I feel like the label of one of the worst winners is a bad label because I do feel like he does he does do things this season that ultimately puts him in a great spot to go to the end even after being on the wrong side of the boat a couple of times that Bond was sugar and admitting that he wrode Sugar's coattails at final trial I think the fact that he never had to turn on any of his people and when the Randy thing happened the fact that he sat there you know when Karen asked him the question and him saying hey I didn't like the fact that they laughed at Randy during that situation I do think there was Merit to it but once again and ultimately it doesn't cost him Bob sits at the end and has one of the worst final tribal performances of all time you know just the way he answers questions it's I'm actively rooting for Susie here today knowing full well she loses because of how horribly Bob is doing with these questions Austin as a person that does enjoy has this Nostalgia factor of the season and does enjoy it even though it's not one of your favor or not your you know what do you think about Bob as the winner what

26:47 Do you think of Bob as a winner I should say I remember watching it and actually being like happy that Bob won mhm and then on a rewatch like as I got older I see some of the stuff that I didn't see the first time around like more of su's game and all that kind of stuff obviously like if you win you win you know you won that season you got the votes from those specific jury members so there's always Merit to whoever won like you deserved to win that game like as a winner overall like he's probably towards the bottom of my list yeah but like to say he's a bad winner is like I feel like is a little harsh McKenna yeah I mean out of that final three I was rooting for Bob big fan of his bow ties and but I mean he literally had said like I basically didn't do anything strategically but his social G like game was there where he was like nice

28:07 And he was handy around Camp he like had other aspects to him that you know could warrant a win and it did yeah this is one of the last seasons where what someone does around Camp actually matters and I think that the one of those reasons is the location and I know one of the comments earlier was a lot of the challenges were very unique a lot of everything this season is very unique and it's similar to China where it's like I don't need another season in gabone because we have this like we don't have we don't need to become oversaturated like Fiji Seasons right I'm all right with a China season and a gabone season because it's whenever you start thinking about oh gabone that's the one with that challenge you know that China is the one with that location I do like a lot of those a lot of those aspects and I do think that Bob being the handy person that he was at Camp definitely added to his social game but it like his social game was not that bad either because yeah the Randy thing he probably didn't have to do but the Karin thing he was actually trying to help her out on his on her way out because he knew there was almost no way that was not going to happen and the fact that he was still like hey I'm going to sell you this and then you just sell it to everybody else and you know maybe it'll work maybe

29:27 It won't I think the only person that was like upset with him was probably Kenny which is ironic because Kenny out of everybody else seemed like the most like a this is a game had that this is a game type mentality because when even with his final words he was like yeah I know how to lose I'm a gamer I get it but his final jury question to Bob is why did you lie about the necklace thing and's like that's one of the only like legitimate answers that I actually believed is oh you were going to vote me out if I gave up the necklace like why would I not do that's crazy and I do feel like that kind of May swayed Kenny to vote for Susie I think Kenny would probably always would have voted for Susie even though the edit definitely didn't show it like that I forgot where I was going with that we'll move on because so everyone I'm just going to put it out there everyone I hit the wall today finally I hit the wall today I am exhausted Beyond Reason but I'm going to push forward because I know that I hear SES on Friday and then I have a long week next week specifically Saturday through like next Thursday with the seasons I have to do then so I'm gonna try to push through and then just

30:47 Suck for about a week oh question that works how big of a oh how big of okay oh was Karan with com about okay so she's TR to do snakes and rats yeah she's trying to be the next snakes and rats with her final I mean it kind of did turn into that because everyone knows that common like it's not as big as snakes and rats but I feel I feel like when you think iconic tribal final tribal speech is kin's is in there let's talk about Karen I don't like Ken I don't and Ken is a character because it is very mean girl is and I know that's her first confessional like oh yeah I'm going to own all of it I'm going to be this I'm going to be that and that's cool it's very antagonistic to the point of the no wonder people are keeping you out of reward challenges and everything because you're pissing people off the social aspect of the game like her and Randy yeah they had their people you know their onion Alliance outside of that they just kind of didn't care about anyone else and that's thep of you know that's the type of player that you know if they lose in the end they're like oh well you know it's just because they were bitter it's like hell yeah they were bitter

32:08 You treated them like [ __ ] like what how else do you how you think people are supposed to react in that situation if you're not being somewhat nice to them even if you're being fake about it what are our thoughts on Karen didn't like her on First Watch and still don't I okay keep on going I just I just I can't someone that is just like that mean for the sake of being mean is just like not my person yeah I'm with you m I was rooting for the current Randy Charlie Marcus side of things after rewatching her and Cara Moen though so down on her like not she likes her gays I know but gay men specifically which is not me her she like gets her hot guys and her gay guys and then she's good which she had Charlie and Marcus she did she was she was set up fine yeah so I was I was rooting for the un Alliance

33:28 I love Randy I think he's hilarious so like I was definitely wanting that side to move forward and just the whole like interaction between Karen and Susie when Susie's like yeah I was thinking about voting for you bad move bad move Susy I liked Randy like every time I watch the season pass the wi okay I won't say I like Randy I understand Randy I understand Randy because once again you are out well Kar calls them mutants I'm gonna be nice and just call them cartoon characters still but ry's out there with a bunch of cartoon characters and he's like his OG tribe is just the worst so I do feel like when he does flip to the Kota Alliance it probably works better for him as a person obviously it doesn't work out for him the end one of the aspect of the Season that I do like is the fact that the that Alliance this tribe that had been winning everything you know and this Alliance that had come out on top and it only lost Jackie that they lose like they just get picked off one by one once the last vote of the Prem merge and excuse me the rest of the merge goes on they lose

34:49 I it's at the sake of getting you know the Fong Alliance instead but like I think that works I don't need hot guy Marcus and you know his lover Charlie and mean girl Karen and Randy the kudin and Bob I would rather have these cartoon characters that don't know how to play the game plus Kenny well I mean that's what they were trying to do with this fake merge Summit situation it was to make the Kota Alliance not happen basically it was supposed to be a merge and then they delayed it for like three hours and then we're like psych it's a tribe swap for one round for a round and a half because they still have the reward challenge afterwards [Music] right oh do you want to comment on the weird tribe swap with Marcus and Kota oh yeah that was interesting least yeah the fact that we have two pre-merge

36:10 Tribe swaps in a season is definitely like something that like they don't split into over everybody else where they don't split into three yes where they don't split into three yeah I so because the Cotto Alliance I was always rooting for their downfall I honestly didn't think it would be Marcus that left first but when it does we get the most memorable meme from this season where they show up and everyone has their different reactions which I think is one once again one of the biggest positives about the season is that we got that gift from the season but outside of that you know the the Kota Alliance they have two characters that I really care about whether I like them or don't like them and that's Randy and Karen and then we've got Bob who once again just like Bob's is always just Bob and then Charlie and Marcus I forgot marcus' name when we were sitting here so like that just shows how relevant Marcus was in my head the only thing I remember about Marcus is he's friends with Chrystal's cousin yep and that's it and I think that probably comes down to the way the edit was because they kept winning we didn't have to spend enough time with them to really learn who they were you know and Jackie and Kelly also started on that tribe so by the time they get swapped it's like who

37:30 Are these people we do have Ace who we haven't talked about yet much Ace is a fun pre-merge character but I like I said I feel like he didn't outstay as welcome also I was trying to count how many times his accent changed and I counted eight at least there was at least eight times that it would and it was usually after something crazy had happened or if he was if his mood changed and I think that adds to the theory I don't even know if it's a theory at this point that he was faking the accent what did we think about Ace gosh I'm I was never an ace fan but was like sugar why the heck did you vote out Ace like I did I wasn't like happy when he left because sugar did a bad basically because Kenny because Kenny convinced her to do it because he was a great player listen I'm not saying that he's not a great player or that he is a great player I'm just saying he's not my cup of tea atin yeah I'm gonna Echo that I'm just very mid on a not a whole lot of thoughts there is he's got a cool arm tattoo

38:50 That's like one of the only thing it looks like a bullseye almost question what was your thought on rewatching the auction the cookie incident in particular one I totally forgot about the whole bathtub thing where Sugar's judging Susie for how short of a time she takes a bath so I would stay there the entire time the cookie thing still confuses me because what it looks like happens is Randy makes a joke about do I have to give it to everyone and probes is like yeah you have [ __ ] give it to everybody and so he offers everyone a cookie and Sugar's like she doesn't want one and then propes makes a comment everything and then all of a sudden are you sure you don't want this last cookie Sher takes it she gives it to Maddie and that's you know that's kind of the end of it and then Randy takes another half from Karen and Sugar's being really weird about the fact that ry's upset at how this went down but like from what we are shown it seems like Randy wasn't trying to antagonize her in that situation which is unlike him my thoughts are there was very clearly something that production didn't show because there's no way that had happened exactly like that because it doesn't even make sense why Randy you know why sugar wouldn't do that and why Randy would be so pissed off the entire day when he

40:10 Did end up getting half of a cookie from Ken anyway does anyone to have a different answer I think we are missing something because the fact that like R Maddie didn't say oh Randy you can have this cookie that Sugar just gave to me back because that was his cookie like it was his cookie because Maddie also Maddie had his own cookie a half of a cookie and now sugar SL Randy's cookie and it's like do we think Maddie did not offer to give one whole cookie back to Randy but we had to we don't see that but we still get Randy pissed off that Sugar gave away his cookie this is just once again just fully encapsulates this season the fact that is a big moment in the game is Cookie gate the fact that cook Randy W cookies and may or may not have offered one to Sugar once again I if people looked at gabone as a cartoon or like a spoof if this is considered a Survivor spoof I think it would be it's perfect television if people like this season because it such a car crash I even probably give

41:30 You credit to that but for people that think that this is just like an actual good season it's like you are crazy unless you have Nostalgia for it too so I'll give Aon a pass because he has nostalg for anyone else I don't get how this season has so many fans online and that some people which is we need John to comment so when John mup you listen to this eventually because he loves gabone and said top three season to me in a text message you need to comment on this video so we all know you're reasoning because yeah I don't get it and you know as we start to wind down with this I think one it comes after Micronesia so like that it was always going to be fighting an uphill battle I do feel like you know actually I don't feel like this because I was already say I feel like there are some compelling characters but like outside of sugar and maybe Randy not really like compelling characters that was like I'm fully invested in this person storyline and sugar is a bit of a stretch but because we spent so much time with her this season we're kind of obligated to follow her entire storyline I think that once

42:50 Again from final six to final three someone just drops the ball at every single turn and it ends up with us getting a horrible final three but a final three where sugar should have run away with it and didn't because she [ __ ] the bed Susie could have won it but you know she couldn't get certain people and Bob probably shouldn't have gotten any votes because he was just so blah about everything question is there anyone who could have won that would have made the season better or gabone was always going to be considered fun cartoons use no matter what even if Kenny wins I feel like cartoon because Kenny is such a Kenny such a what's the word I mean I won't say that he doesn't give off winter Vibes because that's BS he's an animated character himself too like even though he's good he still is like a character too yeah okay so yeah I'll go I'll go with that so like I don't feel like there's anyone that could made the season good in my book even if you even Seasons with good winners they can still be bad if that if that you know I think winning is the reason the

44:10 Season is like yeah considered cartoony like it's literally the entire cast as a whole and all of the absolute mess that the entire season is yeah I mean we have one of the worst tribes ever in two iterations the third iteration actually wins which is insane Marcus no yeah they don't have Marcus and they still win yeah but so at this point we've have three historically worst Tri tribes because we haven't gotten to mat Singh yet we've got ulong and we've got ravu ulong at least won a fair few reward challenges ra ravu lost all but one challenge just period and Fong I think won two or three challenges as a whole ravu has an asteris sticks to their win too no no not that one they actually their Ru 2.0 won a oh okay they won one reward challenge oh the hot dogs yeah I know yeah but so where I was going with this is I still think the funs just from a TV point of view they are the most interesting of the three because with Ru

45:31 It was like I hate Rocky so much that like no matter what he does I hate this tribe because Rocky's there with oong it was like okay outside of Stephanie and Bobby John like I don't know these people I know ibrahim's name because he's black and like I know James because I hate him I don't know any of these people I just watched palao what seven days ago now and I couldn't tell you anybody else in that tribe's name honestly but with Fong here even though they all suck the only person's name who I've forgotten is no her name is her name was Michelle the first boot yeah Michelle Chase Michelle okay so I can name everyone from OG Fong because they were just so they were I won't say Larger than Life but they were characters they had their own unique quality about everyone was no generic people on this tribe and that can't be said for said for Cota because even though Jack you know were there they I remember their names I feel like they were very generic I feel like Marcus was kind of generic as well but he was on the jury so I we had enough time with him we've had two people from the season come back we've had sugar and we've had

46:51 Randy right just sugar and Randy yeah there's no way anyone oh and yeah duck I forgot about gr were they the right three people I mean we've talked about Kenny and Crystal and people think they should have been brought back I think Randy 100% needed to come back because he's just King but did I need to see Karin or sugar not really awesome I would agree Randy definitely needed to come back and I think they brought like Heroes versus Villains was the perfect one to bring him back for I obviously would have liked to see Kenny back by now and honestly probably still would and then I feel like Maddie could have come back also really I mean I'm not gonna I'm not going to judge I'm not like hardcore pitch it but like I wouldn't have been upset if they brought him back if M come back yeah put him on the ballot for Second Chances yeah like that yeah something like that I would say that you know the three people that they have had come back I understood two of them I understood sugar and I understood

48:12 Randy I also understood that you know they needed gabone representation so they had to get I'm surprised they had two people from on the same season for because that same season being gabone Ken on that favorites triy and Caren I would say is probably like number four or five as far as fave rank as far as like what people probably were pining for I don't think there were many people pining for Karen after she was an on Heroes versus Villains I don't think anyone really was like oh I need another Karin season and thankfully she is the merge boot that's not on the jury in that season I do think that yeah Randy neither Randy or sugar outstate they're welcoming her verus villains and I think because that cast is the characters are so big I feel like they were you know small fish and a large pond in that season to begin with and then for season 50 is there anyone from this season that you are dying to see play on season 50 I figured you would say that die on the hill for any of them so GC okay I mean we haven't talked about GC and this is like my only like this is my favorite part of gabone is GC

49:32 Becoming the leader and then being like no I don't want to be the leader and then gets lost before the challenge and they have to try and find him to come back like that series of events is some of my favorite survivors it's such a because in my head I Tred to watch it as if I'm a player that's actually out there I'm surrounded by production and we are actively all looking for this man which means he is totally Off the Grid to the point where their production saying no we've got to go to the challenge sorry like he's just out here it's like okay what if he's dead though like what we don't know what happened to GC and then all of a sudden he's back and they go and they lose the challenge and he basically asked to be voted out yeah GC very underrated pre-merge character no not really he's just I follow him on Instagram and he's just out here does he what don't know G Sizzle oh he still goes by G okay all right it's Danny Golden Child Brown that's embarrassing instag bio how many followers does he have 435 do I have more followers than GC there's no way right he's a legend and I you know what GC

50:52 Back for 50 stop honest I could okay I do have more followers in GC so you know I if I if I were to picked one person from this season that I would be like wow they actually brought them back for 50 it'd be Ken it'd be Kenny like I think that I don't think I don't think that anyone from this season is coming back for 50 and not even because of the whole pre-33 thing I just don't see anyone pining for anyone from this season in particular but I do think that Kenny could gain some traction from fans yeah to send him back out there it's very much like and we to a vote and he's on the ballot I think he makes it he gets yeah absolutely I think we've talked me and McKenna have talked about Nate and sha Rector and then yesterday I talked about Natalie Bolton I think those types of characters ones that like were very big on their season and people have been pining for them for years if they leave this in the audience's hand and those people you know those types of people are out there I think that and especially if they put them next to people that have returned even once I feel like the fans will be like no let's vote this person this time because at this point there are so many Survivor super fans

52:12 I guess that they outnumber the casuals Hope let's hope this time and we don't get Monica Billa again or KY kappenberg again yeah or vus or you know Jeff Barner for second time that was the second time nonpr problematic time and all with jeffner it was funny in Australia because I didn't like k overall gabone gets like a 3.5 out of five like it's harmless but it's just and it's funny but everything is just it's so it's bad it's bad it's not Nicaragua when I talk about Nicaragua on Sunday I believe that's when I'll really start like being upset about everything because Gabon is not bad Gabon is gabon is so bad it's good yes it's the room it's the room Survivor Seasons I can stand watching gabone again Nicaragua is my bottom season like I cannot like I hate watching it but Chase Ray no

53:33 Doesn't one fan of the Season what's her name Jane oh it was not okay it wasn't even Holly it was Jane thank you both so much for coming on today to talk about the season once again I apologize to everyone that I was very low energy today I'm hoping that by the end of token jeans I know that for Samoa spoilers I'm going to be blasted for S because I always drink with Eric Cardona because I have to carry you know on his legacy of being a very drunk juror I'm not gonna be like totally neb where I can't talk but like I'm gonna be a very much more high energy person so thank you all and we'll be back tomorrow night with Survivor token shein which has already I paused it but it's already starting and we will see you all on the other side freeze Ace freeze