Survivor Season 42: Draft Picks & Cast Assessment
Podcast episode · 26 Feb 2022 · 1 hr 38 min
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0:01 Welcome back to the nullified take where we've got the tnt takes for you on survivor 42 drop the fall keep the two jake we're back we're going to be watching another season of survivor cbs this is the first time that me and you get to actually talk about survivor cbs us for those who are not aware of who we are i get i guess we can both do a quick introduction in regards to our own fandom and you know what got us into survivor jake we'll start with you give the viewers a little bit of a view because a lot of them might not be watching international survivor which we're covering at the moment right yeah so i started watching survivor like four years ago i got surgery like pretty major surgery had to was like bedridden for like a couple months and i had nothing to do but watch tv pretty much and my sister told me to watch survivor and i was just absolutely hooked i watched like three seasons in a in a week and i finished all 40 seasons at that or however many seasons there were at that point and i just wanted more so i went on reddit and everyone was talking about australian survivor like south africa forever i just i watched all of those and here we are i'm talking about it with you yeah deep dive into the survivor fandom you know especially since you watch international
1:21 Survivor as well and you and me we connected last year on a different podcast and we started talking about you know survival worldwide content you know a lot of talks about survivors of africa australian survivor i'm a super fan so you know my name is chris i've watched survivors since the very first season when richard hatch won you know greg was my favorite that season and a little bit of a hint there for you guys i've been doing a lot of special content short form videos of survivor and i will be bringing out one that will address who my favorite players are for each single season so from season 1 to 10 through to 11 to 20 i will continue to do like a little bit of a tribute to those players that i really loved watching but i'm a super fan of the show i don't proclaim to be the strategic mastermind i mean i call this channel the nullified take because at the end of the day we've got to take but it doesn't really matter jake because everything that we're going to be talking about it has already happened in hindsight yeah we don't know we don't know the full story of what's going on out there we can't really speak for what everyone was thinking and the true nature of the game yeah and i just want to welcome back some of our die hard live listeners and podcast listeners for different things here that we do on the channel adrian is saying let's get this started the draft is going adrian welcome to the live dolores always so
2:41 Grateful to have you here you know popping in commenting on all those videos i always appreciate it dolores says oh here we go i've reviewed the players and listened to some big talkers we should hope this should hopefully be interesting and we're hoping that we've got some interesting takes for you this is the very first time that myself and jake will be doing a draft we've never done one together even in last season i think i had most of my drafts with riley but i don't know what your strategy is going into this jake and i think vice versa you probably have gotten no idea as to what i'm going to be doing yeah you're just going to have to wait and see i guess how much prep did you do you're going to have to wait and see i like it you see this is how jake would play if he's out there on survivor he would not give anything away well let's get into it let's give the people what they're here for we're going to go straight into a wheel spin the wheel's got myself and jake on it over and over one of us will get to go first and choose which order they want to do the draft picked in so if you win this for instance jake you can choose to either go first or second and you can also choose i guess to make it fair you can choose if you want to go first and second the person who has to go second they can choose if we start with a male or a female that makes it fair you know so a little bit of interesting twist there both of us get a little bit of power so let's go into it and spin
4:01 The wheel we've got dolores saying jake comes off as a player which he likes i like it as well so it looks like i am going to be the lucky person to choose if i want to go first or if i want to choose the order of if we're going to go male or female first so what i'm going to do jake is i'm going to give you the option to choose if you want to go first or second and i will choose what your first category would be if it's male or female so would you like to go first or second in the draft picks i'll go second okay so i've got the draft pick set up over here and i apologize to the players if they ever watch this a few of you your head got cut off in the pictures i'm going to rectify that next time when we talk about this on our weekly recaps because obviously we want your full face there so i will go first jake will go second and i get to choose if i'm starting with females or if i'm starting with males in this and you know what jake i have been very underwhelmed by the males this season like i actually don't think that the winner of this season is going to be male i know very big call very early on in the season here but because of that i think i'm gonna go with females first because i've got a specific female i've got an eye on her i think she's gonna be a killer this season and i want to
5:21 Get into that i think first so let me bring this back up and the first person here that i'm going to take off the board is going to be no one else but jenny kim she's going to be my first pick for this season and i've got a few reasons as to why i'm gonna go with miss jenny kim as my first pick you know she for me comes across as someone that's got extremely good energy she seems to be someone that i would want to work with if i was out on the island and i always make my decisions based on that to a certain degree she's got a little bit of life experience she's a little bit older i guess than some of the people that are going to be out there which means that you know she's not going to be easily led astray she's 42 and you know i'm hoping she doesn't get seen as the mother in the tribe when she's out there she's a creative director she's someone that stated that she really enjoys kelly wentworth's game for the tenacity she really wants to emulate laura beck because of lauren beck's social game all players that i also have a lot of respect for i think that you know she's someone that's got high emotional intelligence as well you know there's a lot of talk by this cast about emotional intelligence and i'm a firm believer that it's something that you can't study up on a book you either have it or you don't have it you know you can read about it you can refresh
6:41 Yourself on it but you either have that skill set or you just don't have it so i've got really good vibes for her you know i think that she's gonna go deep this season what's your thoughts on jimmy sorry jenny kim yeah i was actually very high on her as well so i'm a bit sad that you took her but i agree that i think that her life experience is gonna help her a lot because you know we see with like pretty much any woman like over 40 is always seen as the mother and like we're even seeing in australian survivor like chrissy like obviously she is a mom but she's not even that old like i don't know why people are like always calling her mom like i don't know it's kind of strange to me and we saw it kind of with julie in season 38 edge of extinction she was like seen as the mom and like just kind of not taken seriously and but i don't think that's going to be the case for her i think she comes off as really relatable and yeah like easy to get along with i agree with you that she seems very like someone you would want to work with in the game so i have high hopes for her i would be shocked
8:02 If she yeah i agree i would be shocked if she was taken out in the pre-merge yes adrian here says there jenny is the silent player at the pre-med and once she gets there she's going to be a silent assassin that nobody is going to see coming and i agree with that and you know you mentioned about you know jenny being a bit older hopefully she doesn't come across as the mom man she does not look 42. she looks good for her age i mean i thought when i first looked at her even in the videos i thought she was like late 20s early 30s i think she's got a young energy about her and i also when i want to do my assessments for this i want to make sure that i pick players that i think is going to relate well to others because ultimately that's going to be important this season so we've got our first one here on the board jenny kim my first draft picked here so this means jake you're gonna go and pick your first female pick next and you're also gonna get the first male pick here back to back who's gonna be your first pick here okay i think i'm gonna go with chanel yep danny for doing that to me she was my she was my second pick so tell us why if i'm being honest i made me
9:22 Picked her because i thought you were going to pick her up i was kind of trying to control you a little bit and you did you did but yeah it's that doesn't mean i don't like her and think that she'll do well i just i just really liked all of her interviews like she just seems like she knows a lot about the game which you know we see that from kind of everyone nowadays now in these new seasons you know everyone is quote unquote student of the game but i do think she you know that always doesn't hurt and i think she's going to be able to keep it under wraps like people just get way too excited out there and like wanna do become the next kim spradlin next boss and rob you know i don't think that's gonna be her i think she's very she's very calm and collected and i think she'll be able to see be i think she'll be able to make good connections and i also think that she like jenny will be she's someone i can see myself working with and i think that she just kind of comes off as like very like respectable i guess
10:42 Like i think if she makes it to the end like even if she like doesn't really have played a real really good game i guess very impressive like done that much i still think that she can be able to kind of show herself to be like oh yeah i deserve this i don't know if that makes any sense that's just how it works in my head make sense dolores here in the chat says there you go player recognizes player jake well done on the pick there you did you definitely did troll me because she was gonna be my second pick and you probably picked up that i'm a person that loves to go off good vibes good energy people that come across as very sociable she's one of those players again that to me comes across as very sociable but like adrian says here that she's a massive orc player as well and have participated in some awk survivor online she's also studied up on the game on reddit and learned about game theory and where people have made flaws now that could be a positive or a negative thing because sometimes it could get you to overthink when you're out there on the island i mean we've seen plenty of super fans not make it very deep because of that but i do feel like she's got a good level head on her shoulders and that she could be a very big player this season and one of the things that really stood out for me with her again she's 29 i know i'm so bad i'm such an
12:02 Ageist normally if you're a little bit older you know and not that she's old don't come at me chanel please you know you just have a little bit more of a wise head on your shoulders and you've dealt with a lot more circumstances and situations in your life you've been out of your parents house for long enough to know that the life can be life can be tough at times you know but you know she's got a role here as an executive recruiter now one of the things you may or may not know about me jake is that i work in the hr tech space and our clients are recruiters and i work with a lot of executive recruiters on a day-to-day basis and i tell you what to be good in that role you have to be good at understanding people because you're dealing with people for very high roles they go through the recruitment process there's things like the great resignation happening across the world at the moment where people are leaving their jobs people are pulling out last minute so you've got to keep the client the potential employer happy and the potential employee which is the candidate so you've got to do a lot of juggling and you have to have great people skills and you have to be good at listening to people so it's a sales role almost and in a different type of way it's a sales role without the threatening sales tag to it so a lot of people might not realize that you need those soft skills as someone that's in that field so i think she's gonna do good i think it's a really good pick here from you i hate the like i hate the pic that you made but you
13:22 Know i understand why you did because she wanted to steal her and that's fine you know that's gonna happen i'm gonna have to do i'm gonna have to get you back hopefully on one you know who's your first guy pick you know i am i don't want to diss anyone because we haven't even seen anything yet from the season and this is a good point this is a good point to say also if any players do listen to this i know you probably won't it's a small podcast but if you do come here and you listen to this we can only judge you throughout this whole season and throughout all of this based on the edit that we see based on the limited information that we see this is not a reflection of you as a human being and we understand that you will act differently out there compared to what you would in real life like i just want to put it out there so jake you can you can go ahead and throw shade at anyone this is based on what we've seen in the edit this is not add them as human beings you know yeah okay hmm you're thinking really hard about this one i'm surprised i'm taking you this way i think all of the great ones are female i'm sorry i think the women are good i agree i think the women are so much better than the males yeah and i hope they prove us wrong i hope they know what's wrong you know what i'm gonna go i'm gonna go with a pic you
14:44 I'm gonna go with a pick you may not expect i'm gonna go with daniel okay he's the first one right there yep i like that pick for you he was my second guy pick so it's a good pick really okay yeah for some reason i was reading that you were not going to be high on him but yeah you want me to yeah tell us why what why did you do yeah so he kind of reminds me of myself a bit he's i can tell he's a bit self-deprecating which you know someone like we've seen self-defecating people do well on the show like cochran you know they seem to be more relatable and like people that can kind of make others feel like oh yeah this guy you know he's just you know kind of lowers their threat level and i think he just kind of appears non-threatening which is really good you always want people to be underestimating you in this game because they you can't you know you can only go off physical appearance you can't you can't tell what's going on in people's heads and i think this guy is smart and he the only thing that worries me about him is
16:04 That i think he i think he might need a little bit more confidence in himself because you know i think he said like i don't think i'm gonna win this game which is like okay good to maybe come in with low expectations because then maybe you won't be disappointed but you know you want to see some people like have a bit of confidence in themselves but here i'll give you some confidence daniel i think that you could win the game i think you're going to be good i think you're going to make some strong relationships and i think that people are going to see you as a good guy and i like you i like you daniel so yeah that's my second pick yeah i like daniel i think it's a good pick he was he was going to be my first pick for a majority of me doing my research and then i kind of last minute changed it over to one other guy who i thought had an even better chance at winning this season if we were to go by that but the one thing that made me concerned for daniel i saw one rich strike for him throughout all of my research that i did and that was him saying that he was gonna be honest about his life honest about the fact that he's been a cancer survivor and you know i think that's very in life that's great and you should be honest not in survivor telling people that you've gone through that struggle and that you've made it people are going to hold that against you it's
17:24 A great story when you get to the end to potentially win the show i think it's a red flag him being too honest could be a big concern but he is a super fan he understands the game he respects the greats i mean he's a tony blackouts fan who isn't and you know he seems to have good energy he reminds me very much of nick from david versus goliath also you know he's a law clerk you know he comes across as this good likable guy could be underestimated by people around him i don't think nick came in thinking that he was going to necessarily win the game or talk the big game from the start so i can see a lot of similarities between the two of them and you know to be compared to a winner i think is a positive thing overall and apparently he's been on irhap before as well for a wrap-up on a spider-man movie so you know he's rubbed shoulders with some great so he could bring some interesting things to the to the show i'm hoping for the best year from him moving forward now i do believe that it's going to come back to me for my first guy pick and i know that you're anticipating who possibly could be out there that's gonna be better than daniel at this point and i'm gonna tell you the person and i'm gonna probably completely butcher their name but that's okay i apologize in advance i'm an ignorant south african living in new zealand and i'm not cultured enough but i'm gonna go for
18:45 Hey ching i believe so the asian assassin that is playing this game he's coming into the show as someone that is a data scientist you know he reads numbers on a daily basis he very much reminds me of kiran from survivors of africa immunity ireland who was a very big player in that season a business analyst strategist i think that this guy you give him room you get him to mix in with the other people out there he's gonna be coming up with some great plans and he's not gonna be the two i see to anyone out there he's gonna want to take control of his own fight in the game and have a very strong pocket or could even play like a very close game to like someone like todd from survivor china i could see the similarities even between him and todd he's you know he's raised in front of the tv he watched all the seasons jewel wasn't it was his idol you know similar to how he was my idol for the first 20 seasons and i still probably rate you in my top five of all time winners out there and you know i just think he's again got so much confidence he seems to be a bit more confident about his own ability compared to someone like daniel potentially and i think that he could be a threat in this game what do you think about and i'm probably pronouncing it wrong
20:05 This season do you think he's gonna do well he is the one i am most split on because on paper he should be great but i think he's just gonna come off too threatening i don't know why but to me just looking at him he seems like a threat like i don't know why but he just seemed he looks smart he looks strong he looks like he's likable and you know those sound like good things obviously but i think it's just too obvious i don't know why but like that just seems like i and i think that he's going to be a favorite for sure like a fan favorite i think he's also going to be like you know i think reddit does like winner picks there i think he's going to get like the majority of winner picks oh really i think so i don't know he just seems really he just seems really smart and really cool and yeah it's like kind of like if yul kwan and todd had a baby and he came out and like he's like the perfect mix between the two of them right yeah no exactly like he if he can just manage like the threat of what i mean
21:25 I'm just going off of what i see i don't know if anyone else is going to see him like i do but if they do and he can just manage that i think he could easily win the game i think he's i think that's a great pick but for some reason i've just got some doubts about him i don't know it's just what's going on i just have some weird i'm just going to pretend i didn't hear the doubts you know and just yeah go back him he's my he's my first guy perk so adrian says because hai and chanel were on the same trip i think we could see a ricard and shawn type of duo again but in reverse in my opinion i you know chanel i could see a little bit of similarities but i didn't want to point that out you know because i don't want to be people be thinking ah you know chanel's another black girl playing this season and chantal was one last season that's why you're making the comparison but i do think that high is going to be a little bit different to ricard i feel like ricardo was a capable player and a really good player but i feel like there's going to be differences between the two of them it's hard to articulate exactly what that's going to be but i feel like yeah i don't know rickard we didn't get to see his full social game i feel like on the show he was very calculated but i think like i is going to have a very good social game with the strategic side of it i think and i think that chantel last season kind of helped ricard for a long time with the social connections within the game and i don't think that high is going to have that
22:45 That issues personally but any case there we go you know i got the difficult name to pronounce out of the way so for those that are joining in late here on the live picks we've so far got four picks on the board and we're doing our draft picks here for the season i have got the next picked here for a female and i need to get my list back up to see who i had in my third spot because i guess you've taken my second pick as well and i just need to double check quickly and make sure that i get the right person here as well as we put this up yep i've gotta so the next one for me is gonna be drea wheeler she's gonna be my second female pick here ultimately she was gonna be third but obviously you took that second pick away from me and drea is someone as well that also gave me chantal vibes this season as well you know she's going to be a physical asset i think for her tribe out there she's an athlete and a fitness owner and that means that you know when you're a fitness instructor you kind of are like a therapist but you're similar to how i said that you know you can be an undercover recruiter which could be a sales person i think a fitness person also can be an undercover therapist because think about it a lot of people that go to get fitness and training and want to get into a better mental and physical space in life
24:05 They go there at a sometimes at an all-time low they want to change things around in their life and be because of that they trust their fitness instructor with a lot more information and i think you have to have really good social skills you have to get along with people that are introverted extroverted you have to have a great communication skills and emotional intelligence as a whole i think that you know she's 35 again great life experience coming into it she's someone that i think could be a really big threat and she's a massive kelly wentworth fan so in that sense you know i'm a big killer windward fan i think that she's gonna be threatening when it comes to playing those physical challenges i am worried for her though that she could stand out as a beast but i do think that there is at least one other female that is going to be a bigger challenge beast than her so i think that as long as she's not seen as the biggest beast out there she could potentially get far and also with this cast i can see her very easily relate with a lot of people on this car so i think that she's gonna go pretty deep yeah she was my third female pick yeah i had chanel one jenny two drea three so really like drea i think you're i agree that her occupation
25:25 Is gonna help her because i think it is a bit understated how like you need to have good social skills when you're like a person is she a personal trainer well i believe she's got she said that it's she's an owner so she's a fitness consultant but when i when i heard one of her videos i think she owns the fitness center that she is the fitness consultant and so she's like a business owner and if so i mean she to me just screams bad you know in a good way like she's got to be out there like a boss lady type of thing you know i think that she's either going to go deep or she's going to get taken out early because she's going to be just that big of a threat but she's not going to be anybody's 2 i see or 3 i see you know she's going to want to be in charge right i think that us i think people might see her as a bit of a bad so i think that might i know i'm maybe like overthinking this a bit with hai and now drea but i think that she might come off a bit maybe intimidating and threatening at first but i think that she has the social skills to kind of alleviate that and make herself less threatening even though i mean i mean just looking at her she looks like a bad very strong i think she's gonna be gonna be a beast
26:45 In the challenges as well so i think that's a good pick now dolores says who wears a dress to an island if you're going to be stranded on it and dolores i don't know if you've watched any of kelly wentworth's tick tocks but she had it probably not because i'll be honest i only just tipped my toes into tech talk you know like i'm late to the game as well when it comes to that and it's intimidating getting new social media platforms and following it but it can be quite funny and you can follow some of your survivor players on there she's actually addressed this quite a few times and i'm very aware of that the players do not get to choose the clothes that they wear the production team tells them what they're going to wear when they go out there and there's actually been a lot of complaints in the past from female players specifically saying that they don't get to have like coats or warm clothes because the producers wants them to be in bathing suits and you know look good on the show and there's a lot of complaints that in the past have come out about an unfair advantage to men on the show because of that because the females would be out there cold at night because they don't have enough clothes so i know they've changed that a lot now and that they do allow them to have more clothes i think but well still one pair but the production is very heavily involved in what they wear out there in any case all right so we've got my female pick out of the way so we're back to you now jake as a part of
28:05 The snake draft and you're gonna do the next female pick who is it gonna be all right i think i'm going to go with lindsay she was my next pick so goodbye i quickly knew it i knew it is this one here i just want to make sure yeah yep that's her good pick tell us why yeah i just this one's a bit harder to explain it's when i just was watching some of the videos i didn't watch all of them i she just has a lot to say i think is one thing she's very talkative and i think that might be a negative but i personally really like people that you can just like kind of keep on talking to like you know some might see that as like oh my gosh like okay just shut up already but i really like it and i think that will allow her to be able to make some good relationships of just like she always has something to talk about and out there in survivor i know it's not so much now that it's 26 days but there's a lot of down time between
29:26 Like you know we only see like the big things that happen on the show but there's a lot of down time where you just want to you just have nothing to do but talk or sit by yourself and people may want to sit by themselves but personally i would want to talk to someone about the strategy about you know personal lives so i really like that she has a lot to say i think like in the video that i watched they asked them a question and like some of the others had like maybe like 10 second responses but she was long yeah her she went out for like two minutes like expanding and expanding and like linking it to something else that i'm like it reminds me of myself i feel like i can maybe sometimes have a bit too much to say so maybe i'm a bit biased but i really like her i think she's gonna be a beast in the challenges i read that yeah she played football as when she was younger which is really cool that she's a female and that played football like that's pretty tough hope they didn't go easier on her i'm sure they didn't but i think she's going to be i think she's going to be a beast and she might come off as a bit like i said but too talkative
30:46 But i personally would like that in an ally that you can just keep on talking to so i agree man like i mean well i guess the show's a lot shorter now only 26 days but still you're out there for endless of times during the day sitting on the beach with nothing else to do so you want someone you could talk to or who entertains you when you're out there i think likability is a really big thing i'm a little bit more 50 on how likable she's going to be i think she's going to she's going to be on that thin line between being annoying and being likable and it's just both of the videos i've seen obviously lindsay i don't know you outside of the game and i mean you look like a great person and i'm sure you're great outside of the game it's just what i've seen and i think it's interesting that you know adrian or who was in the chat here that brought up that it was adrian that said that lindsay is either gonna be a young jerry or a nora or a natalie anderson and what a combination of three previous survivors to put together there because they're all very different in their own way i actually think out of those three she reminds me the most of jerry and it will be interesting to see if she is a jerry when she's out there on the show and if she can find her colby to annoy but you know i think it'll be very interesting to see play out she's a dietitian so clearly in great physical shape when i said that the previous pick that i made there was one female that for me was a bigger physical
32:06 Threat that was definitely going to be lindsay and i think that with lindsay she could be that physical threat that you know you're either going to want to keep her in the game because she's going to help you get to the end or you're going to be taken out but a lot of the times the physical threats when they are female they're not seen as big of a threat as they probably should it's normally only the big male alpha guys that get seen as this threat before the merge and then a lot of challenges towards the post merge start phase of the game it actually does benefit strong women so i could very easily see lindsay go very deep here in the in the game she's also a very big fan of lauren beck who isn't she played a very good social game and i think that will make her aware that if she's got a strong guy that she's aligning with her in the game that she will need to take that move and make that move rather sooner than later so that she doesn't end up in the same spot that lauren did in her season so i do like lindsay i think it's a good pick from you there and i believe we're going back to you now for your next guy pick who's going to be your next guy pick and i'm shocked that for the women we've gone toe for toe we've had the same strong females in mind in regards to who we think we're going to is going to do well this season very simple yeah i think i think they're just they're good i think the females this season are good and i think everyone can kind of agree on that which is which is good to see
33:27 So just to make sure we're only doing five picks each right so now we're gonna go through we're gonna pick everybody that is in the season oh i think it's equal it's equal numbers it's 18 so we both will end up yeah mine maybe one of us will end up with one more guy or female we'll see how it works out at the end i didn't really think it through so we do it on the spot no i think it should be it should be fine if we're each yeah okay so let's see so you've got a few people still left in the game while you're thinking i think that dolores brings up an interesting point here saying that lindsay i get concerned because she really liked the way boston rob played and i did do a reaction video to some of the videos that dr dropped on entertainment weekly and i kind of mentioned it when they started talking about previous survivor players they really liked and i said you know boston rob legend of the game you have to respect the legend he's definitely in the mount rush boy he's definitely in the top echelon of survivor players but the game has moved on so much now that even though some of that advice may have been good back in the day these days it's maybe not as accurate as it used to be because the game has evolved a lot in any case but jake coming back to you there i hope i gave you enough time to think about who you're gonna have as your next guy pick i know the guys are tough but yeah who do you have coming in as your second guy pick here for the season yeah i think i'll
34:47 Go with mike turner okay yes this is the first time that me and you are very different on our picks because mike turner was my last pick for the guys so i'm really interested wow really why are you picking up this early yeah well okay so i think he is has a certain appearance obviously he's a retired firefighter so he may come up a bit tough but i think on the inside he's a bit he's a bit of a softy you see yes that was that was kind of what made me like kind of turn on him which sounds kind of dumb because it's just like okay well anyone could have any favorite player but i don't know just like it's i really like tai as well i mean who does this say that he's their favorite player i don't know that says a lot and i think if you admire the kind of person tai is and i think that he kind of says like you know he kind of wishes that he was more like him and he yeah i just think he's a bit more of a softy and i think that he's the you know i don't think he's gonna be the greatest strategic player but i think he's no
36:07 No dummy and i think that it may be hard for him at first to make some relationships but i think that people might see him as kind of the sweet older guy which you know he's not even that old but you know relatively when we're talking survivor and i think that you know i think he'll just be well respected but i agree that he's a wild card i think that he could he could flame out pretty early but you know you know what jake the difference between genius and complete flop out is a very thin line you know and if you looked at someone like tony blackos in his first season when people looked at him you know even coming into winners at war i'm pretty sure he was the last person drafted for very obvious reasons coming back into that season and he ended up going all the way and winning it and i can i can see someone like a mike surprising us like i mean i had him low definitely for my picks and the reasons you kind of mentioned a few of the reasons i think he's an older guy comes from a different generation you know he was a firefighter 58 years old boston rob is his favorite player even though he really enjoyed tai and he wants to play similar to thai because tai had this loving side to him and that shows that there is some depth to mike as a player but you know him being a big boston rob fan being big about being
37:27 A beast in the challengers and a worker at camp somebody that's gonna you know make sure that the camp is in a good spot i feel like that's survivor back in the 2000s and survivor has moved so far since then that i'm really worried for him when it comes to the strategic part of the game and also just from a point like can he relate to these younger players that are out there that are looking at this game so differently now and there's a diversity in cast not just in you know the ethnicity of the players that are playing but also diversity and thought you know people are thinking differently about things now compared to what they did when he was in his 20s so can he relate to them but i can also see if he if he finds that sweet spot and he becomes like a terry deets who's almost like a father figure out there to a few of the younger players and people really see him as a leader in a positive way and he's not coming across as forceful he could go deep i just didn't want to take a gamble on him and be honest this early on and i was very 50 on where i would put him and ultimately i put him at the bottom i may have been a bit tough on him to be honest i don't know where he's gonna where he's gonna end up on but i mean time will tell who is right here when it comes to it yeah he's i see in the chat adrian is saying that he gives them a bit of tom laidlaw vibes from
38:47 Island of the idols which i actually that made that is a pretty good comparison in my opinion and you know tom didn't do too well on his season but you never know you know i mean it's a different game now from it was three seasons ago i think that the smaller tribes are pretty interesting because let me see do we know the starting tribes yeah we do we do it's on the survival wiki page and i haven't taken any of that into consideration when i've chosen my teams i probably should have but i just looked at them individually because you know there's always a chance i guess there's less of a likelihood of a tribe swap if we're going to be following the format that we had last season but you know i just wanted to vote for the people who i thought would be good so he's in green so he's with olivia ginny look at this he's the three guys three top guys are all on that tribe daniel yeah hi and mike yeah we should have taken this into consideration right before we went and we put all our eggs in one basket because if this is anything like 41 there's gonna be no tribe swap so yeah i mean not all of them can make it unless they beast it out like who's the truth last season yeah but and they could be they've got they've got some good competitors
40:08 We've picked we picked everyone from green except for lydia penn how much are we going to be upset when green goes to tribal like week after week you know what and i'm and the worst thing of all is like this goes against every thing in my body when it comes to investing because it's always about diversifying your stocks and we put all our stocks in the green basket here oh god okay that's okay i'm just going to get something sorry lydia you're probably gonna be the last pick now because we're just not gonna even wanna touch the green sharp anymore but all right so i'm back on to the next guy pick and i apologize i didn't get the best pick with his face being cut off there but it's gonna be rock roy he's gonna be my next pick i really like rock roy now obviously he's a bit older as well he's a stay-at-home dad he's mentioned about you know having a lot of patience dealing with kids at home being able to you know go out there he's hoping that he can play a game similar to john cochran which to me is very interesting because hot take here between me and you i've never been a john cochran fan at all and it's not because of the archetype and i don't like i'm sure he's a great guy super nice guy i just couldn't relate to him couldn't get behind him i've liked other people that would like i would see him closer to if he's seeing himself as this nerdy type of guy he's probably closer to a davey who i loved
41:28 You know or i like christian ubiqui so it's not that i don't like that archetype i just always struggled to get behind john cochran because i think it's because jeff tried to shove him down our throat so much and he tried to sell him so like if he didn't do half the selling he did on john cochran i would have probably liked him a lot more but i struggled to you know the force feeding that he was doing that just didn't translate well for me and you know we'll see how this plays out with rock roy here and what tribe is rock road i'm just gonna have a quick look so finally we get someone from the blue tribe in that tribe there he's gonna be with romeo swati tori zak and drea i think him andrea could get along really well he's going to be 43 a little bit older on their tribe as well so you know they're gonna need someone that brings a little bit of their dad energy a little bit of leadership and calmness to the tribe so i think that could be something that's going to help him a lot in the game and the big thing with him as well is that he is a big fan he has watched all of the seasons you know so again i feel like he knows what he's getting himself into the one thing that made me fearful on him jake is that he also spoke about being that provider at camp you know if he's going to catch fish he's going to do all these things people are going to keep him in the game and you and me we know that the game has moved on from that it's not about being a provider anymore but at least i think he's got a strategic side term as well so if he can combine the two i'm very hopeful for what that could mean for rock roy and where he
42:48 Ends up in this game yeah last my last pick i was actually debating between mike and roxroy i know that i just decided to you know kind of take a chance on mike but could back come back to by me but who knows this is just for fun so yeah let's see roxroy i like that he's a stay-at-home dad have we ever seen a stay-at-home dad or someone that has been like advertised as a stay-at-home dad i'm not sure but so that's pretty cool but that's not really like i think what makes him someone that i was kind of looking at for the pen i do like that he's a builder bit more life experience it is pretty interesting that he wants to play the game most like cochrane but i think he'll see his reasoning he said he understood his weaknesses the second time around and it strengthened him to compete and win so that is a pretty good reason you know it's not just saying like oh i'm also a nerd so i want to play like you know it's a bit more than that he actually likes the you know strategy of cochran which i do think cochran's a good player maybe a bit overrated by some people like jeff but cochran's great and i do
44:08 Do think it's pretty interesting that he kind of saw himself as a as a nerd growing up he doesn't really give off that vibe to me at first but yes so what adrian is saying so there's a guy i'm sure you've heard of him chris his name is redmond he yes releases the cast every year months before cbs like officially releases it and every season since like i think game changers or millennials gen x or something he's been releasing the cast and he'll it'll show like a picture of them that he found with all of their names and he could not find any a picture of roxroy he could not find anything it's because he has no social media he's like kind of untraceable he's off the grid she's pretty i like him i like he's a true og he's a true og you know staying off the grid you know if you know yeah right shouldn't be joking about everything going around now but you know if there's any cyber warfare then he's not he's not going to be in any problems or any trouble at the moment but dolores here says that the reason he joined the tribe is because his wife told him to get off the couch proof that he can do it better that's yeah that's pretty cool you know he's probably like us you know just kind of sitting on the sitting yeah exactly he's the couch potato it's kind of kind of like cereal you know saying oh i
45:28 Could do that while like shoving potato chips down his throat you know his wife was like well then go do it if you're so good i like that because yeah and he's like okay i will and now i believe i believe i'm next here i think i'm going to do another female pick next in the game and just want to have a quick look at who's still available on the board here i've kind of held off from picking this girl and i didn't want to be the person to pick her because i don't know how she's going to go but i also feel like picking her any lower than this isn't a good thing so i'm going to go with tori for my next pick and i'm very worried for tori and how she's going to go this season and the reason for her being is she's the only blonde girl out there let's be honest that's going to stand out like crazy and people like even the women out there might be looking at her as a threat because she could potentially be the pretty blonde girl that could persuade guys to do things for her and you know do a poverty type of strategy and seduce people to do things her way i did feel like in the videos when she spoke about the fact that she's a therapist that is going to help her so much because you know people tell her their secrets every single day and i was like
46:49 Of course they do tory they pay you to do that you're paying someone to tell your secrets to them and get advice from you know that there's an nda you're not allowed to talk about it you're going to tell them everything but survivor these people are not paying to get your advice so i don't think it's going to be as easy as she thinks it's going to be out there to get this advice from her tribe or get some insights as well but i mean the thing with her you've got to respect that she's 25 years old you know she's watched this game from a very young age i believe she was the one who said that i can't remember and correct me if i'm wrong that she met jonathan penner when she was like 11. and she was at an airport and saw jonathan pena and she was a fan back then and got to meet him such a crazy experience and she and now she's a player similar to jonathan that's so cool to see and she's a massive kim spradling fan i mean who isn't you know a strong woman that played a very good strategic and social game if she's got any of that strategic chop she'll do really well this season i am worried for her because she's gonna stand out this season that's the problem because she's a good looking girl she is in good shape i don't know if i don't know where she's going to fit in with the other woman that's my biggest fear but i think if she can get in with the guys get a bit of an onion layer around her and strategize she's got all of the makeup and characteristics of someone that's
48:09 Going to go very deep this season so she's my wild card picking her in the spot at the moment what do you think of tori you know i don't really have much to say about her other than i was probably gonna pick her next and there's really not a lot i can say is that i do think that she has some potential but i that is an interesting point you bring up that she might kind of stand out i didn't really think about that but it's an interesting thing to think about and i think really all i can say is that i just think i kind of like the other females better that i've already kind of gone after but i was probably going to pick her if you hadn't so yeah so adrian says that toria has played an all-called sequester before and she got six plays i actually know about sequester i haven't watched all of the seasons to be honest sequester for me a lot of the times it's too game heavy and not personality heavy enough i really enjoyed the personality moment seeing people socialise that type of stuff so i really struggled to watch sequester but i know that it's very popular online and her having been out there playing in such a season against others that you know is about strategy and voting people out and things like that she may have a little bit more of an advantage than what we give her credit for coming into the season being a little bit more game ready
49:30 So it'll be interesting dolores says her tribe she has three guys so it's rockstar will take care of her like a father and that's another good thing i guess for her because i mentioned that she might struggle to fit in with some of the girls here but let's have a quick look at the blue tribe here she is with swati romeo roxroy and zack so not a bad position for her to be and if she can get in with the guys yeah it would be interesting i don't want to comment too much because there might be some other players still up for grabs is there another how are we going to be is there another person on the track yeah sorry there we go drow andrea's going to be strong so hopefully they get a connection going i'm at six each tribe so yeah so it should be interesting should be interesting to see where this ends up but going back to you here for the draft picks i believe you're going to be doing the next female pick yeah so let's see there's four left okay i think i'll go with marianne mary anne okay mary anne marianne which one is that again is this one here right yes tell us about marianne why did you go for mary anne she just has a good energy to her i think she's just like she just seems really fun and i think that you know i know you and i
50:50 Are very agreeable on the fact that we are looking at players that we can see ourselves being allies with and this is kind of a random thing to like be basing it off of but i think in the very first preview that we saw of 42 was on finale night of 41 we saw and there was like this shot of omar and marianne like looking at each other and i don't know it just looks so like facial expressions yeah i don't know and just like i mean that could be foreshadowing to let's see she's starting on the same tribe as omar yes she is so i this one is more of like a i just really like her which obviously i've liked everyone so far but i do i think she's just gonna be really fun and i think she'll be able to looking at her tribe let's see she's got jackson jonathan lindsay maria and omar i think that she's already in a great position on that tribe i think that she was just gonna fit in well with those people and i think that she also let's see how old is she twenty three twenty four all right twenty four
52:10 Now probably twenty three at the time of the game yeah it's 23 at the time of the time of the game yeah i just i just think that she's going to be really fun yeah so i really i really like her you know yeah i just got i just got good vibes from her and i'm a very big good vibes person she looks to have such a great personality so positive you know like i would need someone when i'm waking up at day 17 without any food to look at and just look into that beautiful smile she has to give me that energy to go yes i can do it i can keep going if she's going i'm going because she's my girl you know that type of person and i think she would be that i think she would be a really great alliance member to have and what i liked about her story and obviously being an immigrant myself to new zealand for those who've never watched any of my content i'm from south africa originally i know what it feels like to immigrate from one country to another country and the struggles that you have to go through and her parents went through that to move to canada and it was a really funny moment in one of the videos that i watched where she said her parents told her hey if you want to you know if you want to tough it out if you want to know what it's like to survive we'll just take you back to the village we're from back in africa or i think it was africa in any case you know and you can do that and she and her mother couldn't understand why she wanted to play this game like survivor her favorite player is davey you know i love
53:30 Davey she's into video games tabletop games you know she's got a lot of similarities she looks like a girl i could have conversations with you know and i think if i was out there i would be i would be playing with her so i think it's a yeah it's a good pick she i think she was it was between her and another girl for me for this next pick so i'm semi got it you took her but i've got another backup in any case at the stage it was between there's two of them that i kind of look at as almost the same but you may have gotten the better one of the two who knows the season will have to tell us you know okay so next one for you is going to be the guys so who do you go for here as we start getting into the pointy end of the game for the next guy pick yes so adrian just while you're thinking the adrian says she said kenya so that's good to know the good thing for her is she's religious like her other tribe mate in taku and her and omar are both canadians so they have to pay up yeah those things are going to be big like if you've got another canadian out there can canada go two to four oh in the in this last two seasons can that happen yeah that would be two canadian females perhaps yeah would that set up a canada versus usa season then somewhere in the future i'm honestly shocked they haven't like done that i thought 41 was good
54:50 Excuse me i thought 41 was going to be that honestly when i heard that except i think that they did have i think tom was canadian on a yeah he was the first he was the first canadian and he was the only one on that season so and then obviously 40 was winners at war so no one had been canadian at that point i'm surprised they didn't do it for 41 but that would be cool to see canada just kind of embarrass the americans going 2-40 already let's see for my next pick i think i'll go with zach zack all right tell us what you like about zach as your next picture for the guys so zach he reminds me of myself and he also reminds me of adam klein see that which i think i think that's kind of an obvious like comparison just like i don't know just kind of the way about them but i just i really like him he also is a pizza delivery boy i used to deliver pizza which is pizza delivery boys rise you got to be you know together we got to stick together
56:10 Exactly i really i think he's really funny i've been looking at his social media he just seems like a i think he's in like a comedy club at his university which i am as well i also am in a we like write sketches and stuff and perform them which is really fun so i just kind of know like the type of people that like to do that stuff and i think they're pretty hit or miss with how i think they would do in survivor it's funny i kind of think about this stuff when i'm like looking at like people that i interact with i'm like how would they do in survivor so i kind of already thought about this and you look at me every time zach and you're like i mean jake you look at me and you're like oh chris man pre-merge boot every single time he'll fall too much that guy's out first he's always wanted to talk about survivor every single week just give it a rest no but i really like him he actually follows me on instagram so that's just my buy-in yeah apparently yeah apparently idolizes adam klein and you know for me i see the adam klein resemblance a little bit i'm glad to hear that you say he's got that comedy side to him he's part of a comedy club i didn't know that at all
57:30 I don't follow him on the socials and anything like that i was a little bit fearful that he came across as a little bit more nerdy compared to adam like adam is a nerd but he's got some real good social skills to him and you know he's really jokey and he's got self-deprecating humor and i think that sort of you know endears them to a lot of people out there i was worried that zach would take himself a little bit too seriously and i know a lot of u.s people watching this have never seen any australian survivor but he actually reminds me a lot of baden from champions versus contenders too i got very strong baiden vibes from him and we won't talk about placements or anything like that but baden was a pretty good socially aware sort of player but he was a bit more of an introvert if zac is in comedy club maybe he's a little bit more of an extrovert so i might have had my read incorrectly on him zach would have been not my next guy pick but the pick after that so it's still a good pick for you at this stage you know i think it'll be interesting to see how he goes yeah you didn't do your research man should have known yeah i might lose out i might lose that should have known he was in a comedy club they're missing out here but yeah no i know that you do need to have good at least somewhat good social skills like you can't you have to like communicate with your club members and like to create a sketch like you can't just
58:51 Like well you can like create one all on your own and then just you know do it but you want to take like advice from others and like talk about it and like you know work as a team and you got to have social skills for that and so i think i think he's going to do well but i do worry about maybe how he's going to do in the challenges he is a bit skinny don't want to yeah judge maybe judge a book by his cover too much but you know that's kind of all we can go off of right now so is it just me or did we start on the green tribe and now we're just going down the list on the blue tribe are we are we doing that now i feel like we're just going down the list and my next pick is going to be oh my gosh my next pick is going to be from the blue truck so like have a look at this we've got tori we've got zach we've got rocks roy we've got drake already picked so a lot of a lot like we're really shading i mean you did pick marianne but i feel like we're still shading a lot of tacos we are shading we're shading a lot and we're gonna have egg on our face by the end of the season because obviously we've got no spoilers we don't know what's gonna happen and they could be the most dominant tribe out there and i'm gonna go down this list because the next pick for me that i'm gonna go for is gonna be romeo
1:00:11 Yeah who's gonna be my next guy that i'm very happy to grab romeo at this stage stall and that he's still available for us to be able to pick him because you know to me he looks like a true contender a contender he's 37 he's a little bit skinny i can see but i think he's got some athletic ability to him the thing that stands out to me jake and why i think romeo could be a contender this season is he's a pageant coach so he's surrounded by high maintenance females all day that he needs to he needs to keep them calm he needs to get the timelines done so he's used to dealing with a lot of different personalities we've always heard that the pageant game is survivor 101 people are backstabbing each other you know so he's got a he's got to navigate those waters and the pageant wall so i think that he's going to come across as very likable you know people are going to really enjoy having him around again as i go off good feelings and who would i want to play this game he loves the legends of the game he's a big sandra fan obviously because she was the first latina to win the game saree poverty rupert and rob all players that he likes there's a lot of old school players but he does seem to be a student who have kept up to date with where the game is going right now he thinks that people is gonna underestimate him since he is a small man and he's a gay latino and i think he could be right i think that there's a good chance he
1:01:31 Could be the ricardo of this season and i would not be surprised if he's that underdog guy that plays a very big game so i'm really a fan of potentially romeo and i'm happy to sort of pick him at this place i think he could be a bit of a blue chip stock for me coming in so late i think that's a great pick he was going to be my next guy had you not taken him but it is interesting we talked about this with jenny does not seem 42. romeo i don't in my opinion i don't think he seems 37 no i know yeah i know i know that like 37 is not that old at all but we're talking relative to survivor here the oldest type of you know oldest people we usually see are like 50 max and i don't know i just don't think he looks 37 but that's good you know he's been i think i don't know if he says in his like survivor wiki bio but i think i saw that in one of the videos he talked about how he like grew up in like the ghetto and okay and he was like he's gay and that's like
1:02:52 Frowned upon over there right yeah and so that was something he had to go through which is really hard and i commend him for that and so i just think he's a hard worker i think he's gonna i know that he looks a bit skinny but i have a bit of confidence in him that he'll do fairly well in the challenges so yeah i do think that the that him being a pageant coach is actually probably gonna translate pretty well so yeah apparently tori seems to just be all over the place like i mean she's played in the game so she might be able to connect with zach because she's been in sequester and he might know her from that it could count against her by the way we and survivors of africa saw someone who won an online org game get targeted for the fact that there was such a dominant player in a different game last season and we won't name the names here because i don't want to spoil it to anybody that may go and watch that at some point but that could count against someone like tori as well but apparently she was also in the pageant world which i can see and that maybe would mean that romeo and her have got something else to connect on there on that tribe but you know i think it's interesting they do have a tribe with less muscular guys in it so you know how are they going to do in the challenges if the challenges are quite physical luckily
1:04:12 In survivor us there is a balance to challenges it's not like australian survivor where it's all about yeah so i think they do have a chance yeah for sure this isn't yeah australian survivor where he'd probably be in a worse position i'm sorry my dog's born all right well i'm i'm going to stay true to the trend here and you know i could mix it up i should i should be diversifying my stocks and picking another player but i'm probably gonna hate myself for doing this at the end of the season but i have to go with who i think individually made an impression on me and i'm gonna go with swati for this next pic here on the on the teams she's 19 youngest player coming into this season so that in itself is going to be a challenge for her i think that when you're a young player playing this game you have a problem in the sense that people always think of you as the kid they think of you as someone that needs to be helped or guided through the game and you don't necessarily garner the type of respect that you would like to get so that when you get to the end of the game you actually have a realistic shot at winning the game because people ultimately have to respect you as a player you know and i think that she could fight against that perception here but a couple of things that i like about her again the story of her parents being from india first
1:05:33 Generation migrant she grew up in that i can relate to it she's a she's an army national guard she's been in the army so clearly she's struggled and survived and suffered before so she's got a little bit of toughness to her even though she's still so young she said that the army reflected the values of what her parents taught her very well so i think she's going to be an old-school soul and a young body out there playing the game so she may really get along with some of the older people in her tribe and they might take her under her wing she's got great energy very excited someone that i want to see play the game her strategy is undefined she wants to play she plays she said i don't have a specific strategy coming in i just want to be a little bit under the radar in the beginning play it safe and then take charge of the game later on but she doesn't think she's going to play a game like anybody else and i think that when you're that aware that it's very difficult to replicate because a lot of people are like i'm going to play like x i'm going to play like why i think going in with that mindset's the wrong mindset and i think for a young woman coming into this game she's got an open like a very wise head on her shoulders and she's open to playing the game that is required ahead of her which are all good signs in my opinion so i think swati could be another person that could do really well i might hate the fact that i've got so many blue people in my tribe but i have to stick true to how i saw it when i when i watched the videos coming into this
1:06:53 Yeah you know i might be underrating her but there's just something off about her with me i think she is extremely smart but i think i think she thinks of herself a bit too smart i think interesting i don't think she's i'm not saying that she's like you know arrogant or anything she seems like a really nice girl but you know just the fact that she's young it just doesn't look too well i mean we haven't seen like someone that young win yet and especially recently we've seen a bit older people win but yeah i think that she i don't know i just get the feeling she's got a tough gig yeah i think she's she lacks a bit of self-awareness yeah so adrian says honestly looking at her she said she's gonna do this that she does look 19 to me and she says she's going to age up to 20.
1:07:59 Yeah i mean listen i think that she's a bit of a she's a wild card pick for sure we've never had a 19 year old win the game but records are mean to be broken you know and why can't it be swatty why can't she be the great game player that goes out there and does really well like adrian said she's played in an orc similar to chanel she's finished fourth place before so she's got a little bit of an experience like i don't think orgs necessarily translates as well into the game of survivor because you're you know having to be out there 24 7 living with these people it's a different sort of thing compared to just jumping on for two or three hours a day on a video call and strategizing and doing challenges in isolation in your own house i don't think that orgs necessarily translates well to the game of survivor in my opinion yeah i mean i've won two orgs so i mean i would have put it out oh yeah sorry oh shouldn't have said that's why i don't play orgs i don't even want to play orgs i don't even put that out there just in case i ever do end up on survivor people be like oh no chris this is the type of player he's going to be you know yeah which by the way that reminds me you need to tell me after this who the one on south africa was that yeah i will yeah people know people yeah so there's this person one in a very dominant fashion one of the biggest orgs in south africa
1:09:20 And then struggled when they were in the last season of survivors of africa because it came out there were other people who knew about it and that was the part of the so i don't know if it made the tv show but people ultimately targeted them because they knew that they were a good game player and this is they're just immunity island immunity ireland yep so i'll talk to you about this offline i don't want to spoil it for people that i know americans might never go and watch survivors of africa but just in case they do yeah because some of these seasons are making it to paramount plus these days so you don't want to spoil it for people if they if they do want to watch it but any case back to the season we've got swati as my next pick here this is where we're sitting at the moment with the picks and we've got two females left on the board and three guys left on the board we're gonna have uneven numbers here going into the end so i'll open it up i'll be generous you can pick any male or any female moving forward as we go to the end of this so you we can mix it up a little bit because it's late in the game i don't feel like i mean famously you know we've made some picks in the past and other podcasts where we pick people quite late and then they end up doing extremely well and nearly winning the season so i mean there could still be the winner could still be out there i mean me and you don't know anything so but i'm going to open it up you can choose whoever you want who's left on the board anyone okay that actually doesn't really change much for me i'm probably i think i'm going to go to lydia
1:10:42 You're going to go with lydia for the next one and she's the actor slash bartender on this season so what do you like about lydia i think that she let's see let me pull up her see i kind of did some research on kind of the people i was going to pick so i could tell you what i liked about it if you if you're thinking about it like i mean yeah lydia was my lydia was my second last pick for this season it doesn't like it doesn't sound like i like her but it's not anything i mean i'm having to weigh up against a lot of people here coming into this the one thing i'm worried about with lydia is will she fit in with the other people there and physically will she keep up with the others and the challenges is my biggest concern for her but she's someone that you know talks about the fact that she's not gonna let people know she's an actress because that could be seen as a threat like if you look at australian survivor actresses have done pretty well in the in the past you know and it could be a little bit of a super power because you can you can fake empathy and you can fake caring about people and things like that while you're out there i mean that's literally what actresses have to do on a daily basis and also i think as an actress you need to be able to put yourself in someone else's shoes which is literally what survivor is about right what is this
1:12:02 Other person's best move what's going to be in their interest can i put take myself out of my position and put myself in their shoes at this point and i think somebody that does acting they probably have that skill set she has grown up with a family who've watched the show for years and years so she knows the game really well she's got great energy i mean i think that i would love to be friends with lydia because i think that i'm a talker she's a talker we would be sitting down and having a conversation for hours and hours and we've spoken about how necessary it is to have likable people out there that you're suffering with when you're playing this game she likes players like tom westman saree and debbie she said that she would like to play like some of those players which is interesting because they're all three are very different i guess tom and siri is a little bit the closest to each other but debbie like i love debbie but i don't want to play like debbie let's be honest it's a bit of a wild card out there but i think she could be interesting i think she could be an interesting watch this season i just don't know how she's gonna fit in and if she's gonna contribute enough in the challenges to stay around for long enough that's my worry for her yeah i know looking at her tribe i think she might be in a bit of trouble if her if they lose early on yeah i've already got i've got the two we've got the two top females on her tribe
1:13:22 Jenny and chanel so that would be tough if her tribe were to lose that is yes see what adrian is saying that it is it that intrigued me when i read that she wants to play like tom weston i think i think that shows that she's very cultured she knows about she knows about tom westman i mean tom westman's great and i think that he doesn't get enough love does not absolutely not absolutely not he's great and i think she's really funny just from what i've seen from her but you know just being funny isn't really enough to [Music] really get some social bonds going and i think i agree with you that it might be a bit tough for her to kind of fit in with everyone so i was i was debating i wanted to pick a female just to keep it going but the females are strong this season i'm telling you it's going to be it's gonna be interesting but you get the next pick in any case so you can clean up shop now if you want to because i said you can go any way you want you can go female or male it's up to you yeah i'll keep the tradition going i'll go with omar okay
1:14:43 Tell us about omar why are you liking omar why did you pick him why did you pick him this low jake bad on you for picking him this low ah you know let's see let me look at my past guy picks daniel mike zach i mean i'm just gonna be honest i just like those guys better and i think i don't know i just kind of wanted to be kind of a little different with picking mike i might even like omar a bit more than mike honestly but omar i just think he's really interesting he just seems really like he's an interesting guy he's a very interesting guy like exotic animal veterinarian i can't read him but you see that's my worry for him jake like omar gets out on the island is he going to be perceived as someone that people are like i can't put you on a box like you're an unpredictable element in this game i don't like i don't know how you're going to react to certain situations or where you're going to go because he comes across as like hard to read like what type of game is he going to play i didn't get much from him when i did my research you know like i like the fact that he works with exotic animals he's a veterinarian so due to that he has to adapt to the day today he might be working with different types of animals that normal veterinarians wouldn't have to work with he never knows
1:16:03 What's gonna happen from day to day so i don't think even omar knows the strategy he has coming into the season so i'm sure he's a big fan because it seems like everybody that is coming on this season are big fans and let's have a look of who he said he would like to play like so which pacifiers would you like to play like i'd like to play like rob for strategic prowlers surrey fields her sit and wait and strike strategy tyson apostle assassin's strategic game kim spreddling his social her social skills were top-notch and then natalie anderson for her laser focus so again like i said i think it stays true to the fact that i don't think omar like you've got one assignment name one player and you end up naming five players like i don't think omar knows what he wants to go do out there yes that is that is very true he is a bit hard to read but at the end of the day i just think that he i think he just might be able to get something going with a couple people and be able to create i don't know i just think he's just it goes back to what we've been saying i think he just seems like a kind of guy you'd want to work with and i know that we're saying that he's a bit hard to read and that might not be too desirable in an ally but he just seems like a really chill guy and i think that you can just talk to him i don't think i think he's got a nice mind for the game and he can
1:17:23 You can talk to him about it and i like that about him and he also just seems really cool so two comments here from adrian so firstly she says i love omar's interview saying he hates the he hates hands and thinks ozzy is overrated and saying that many early favorites were gone during winners of war which is a very popular fan opinion clearly a big fan likes a lot of different things about the game but i again like i said i mean he's a little bit all over the place for me so i don't know i think in survivor is not the place to go and find yourself you know you need to know you need to know what your strategy is going in i'm not saying you should you know you should never preempt how you're going to play the game because you've got to be fluent for sure and maybe it's good that he just likes so many different things he's a jack-of-all-trade master of none but i'm a little bit worried i just can't put him in a box but he could be very good he could be that player that we've slept on because adrian does say i'm surprised tomorrow is that low i really like him from the interviews i could see a strategic side with a little villain to him which you know i love the villains adrian i absolutely love the villains to kind of like a doctor mike character which you know i like dr mike so i mean if that happens i could see a little bit of resemblance maybe between them that would be good i would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when hans i haven't seen russell hanse's cast reaction video but i saw that he did one not that long
1:18:43 Ago i would have loved to have seen russell's reaction to omar saying he doesn't like russell hans because i bet you wouldn't have been a very positive one that would i want to go back and watch that now i'm going to go watch it just for that like i'm hoping he yeah i did watch that i'll just skip to that part yeah and just so you guys know like i like i think russell deserves a spot in the legends like he's a legion like he's changed the game like but russell does take himself too seriously yeah and that would have been funny to watch i mean i don't really see yeah sorry i just wanted to say yeah i was just gonna say like i don't see how russell can't be on the list of legends i think it's just he has to be people it's just an objective thing yeah people a lot of people don't like him but i mean the guy has never had an impact in the game like he can't deny if you like him or dislike him for who he is as a person or how people think he is as a person because i think it's very hard to yeah i guess he does he does a lot of talking so a lot of people have seen a lot more of him after the show than what we would see a lot of other people but you know at the end of the day like definitely deserves a spot there but anyways let's have a look at the last couple of players left here for this season we have got left on the board currently i believe it's marie as maria we've got jackson we've
1:20:03 Got jonathan left on the board and i'm gonna have to go for one and i did not come into this one thinking i was gonna pick this person because i really think this person is being set up to fail this season but i will do it i will take a stab in the dark i am going to go with jonathan for my next pick of the season and jonathan to me you know 29 year old guy company owner he comes across as the alpha male sorry to say jonathan you're probably a really nice guy but you kind of come across a little bit like he might be the douchey guy you know this season which i'm hoping you're not going to be you some of your interview questions it did seem like you were a little bit full of yourself and if that comes across on the island that could be very bad for you i don't know how socially aware you are and how that could come across on the island but you're gonna stand out man like you're a beast there's no one else out there that have not done you any favors they haven't casted at least one physical alpha guy out there and i don't know how you're gonna do with other people but this is the end game now i'm taking a stab and i'm hoping that somewhere an unlikely friendship will blossom like we had cowboy beastmode cowboy caleb and ty become friends and nobody saw that coming going into that season anything is possible in this game and sometimes opposites
1:21:24 Attract and people will work with people that they would never get along with think back to season one rudy and richard hatch no one saw that coming and you know that's the thing about survivor it's a beautiful game you know anything can happen so i'm gonna go with him i'm gonna take a stab in the dark in the spot but i am very worried because i don't think he fits the bull of what new school survivor values in a winner at this point so i'm a bit worried here so i'm taking a stab at the dark jack what did you think of jonathan i just can't really take him too seriously and i say that in the nicest way possible this is this is something that i knew i noticed about him someone mentioned on reddit right when redmond released the cast that he was on endurance when he was 14. i don't know if do you know endurance chris yeah so i'm a big i'm a big the challenge fan and janae who won the last challenge all-star season she was an endurance season error as well so i've seen i think when i was a kid i saw some of it but i didn't see like i didn't follow it closely it wasn't one of those shows that made it its way to south africa growing up yeah so i just think that's really funny and it kind of it's just like kind of ironic that like endurance is all about the challenges and i think he's just focusing too much on the challenges that's like all
1:22:44 He cares about it's all he i don't think when i went through his interviews that he talked at all about the strategy like a single time it was all it was all about yeah i wanna i wanna break the record for most immunity challenges one and or like yeah i won the world record for most pull-ups with a hundred pounds on my back it's like i don't want people to know that because that's gonna be put a threat on me you know yeah and it's like well that's all you are thinking about it's like he hasn't even clicked in his head like there's a bit more to this jonathan than winning the challenges so i also he's just really he's just funny i don't know i think he's a bit i just don't think he's really gonna be taken he could be a character he could be he will i think he will be there's one he said it like two or three times in these interviews he keeps saying i can't even say without laughing it's like i don't want to change diapers out there i want to change the game and i'm like what is that phrasing it's just like what does that mean like are you babysitting like what are you talking about but he yeah i don't have what is it
1:24:05 Did they did they say what type of company owner he was like service rental beach because that was the one thing that stood out for me the guy's a company owner he's a boss in his day-to-day life it means that he's got a lot of confidence he's used to taking on risk because business owners take on a lot of risk on a daily basis and again you need to be able to communicate with a lot of different people you got to communicate with suppliers you got to communicate with clients you know there could be like some people that become owners of companies you just don't get along with them because to be a very successful company owner and build an empire you've got to be an unreasonable person to have that type of success but i think as a small business owner sometimes you get more likable people who understand that they can't just be completely douchey to people out there to get to the top you know so it'll be interesting to see what type of a business owner is and how that potentially translates into his game and if that's something that he could use but yes i am worried about the fact that he's so focused so hyper focused on the challenges not so much the social game out there but for me one of the big issues i have with survivor casting at the moment and last season by the way the casting wasn't the issue the twists were the issue and now that me and jake finally get to talk about survivor because i couldn't talk about survivor us on the previous channel because i was only focusing on international i could start diving into a lot of these topics but i think that you know
1:25:25 A big thing that for me is an issue these days is that we just get too many game bots too many people that are like massive fans like i do want a balance between people who understand the social game and the strategy and some who don't because that creates fun tv you know like if everybody is game bots then we get sequester and it's all about strategy which some people may like but i think that it doesn't translate really well to the wider audience and to the casuals or people who like more characters on their show so i'm okay with that i'm hoping he brings something to it but the guy is going to stand out like a sore thumb like i mean everybody's going to look at him because like i said the they did not do him any favors coming into this thing okay so i think i've got the second last pick here and then i'm going to ultimately leave you with the last one here on the board yeah that's a tough one between the two i can see obviously there are the last two picks here for us left in the game i can see pros and cons to both of them but i think i'm gonna close it off with jackson i'll put him in my team obviously jackson mentioned you know he's gone through a big change in his life transitioning as well and that has given him a certain resilience in life which i can't even begin to imagine what it would feel like to go through something like that in life and that you know that's had a massive i guess influence in how he sees life and how he communicates with people
1:26:45 I am worried about him because he wants to play an honorable game but then also he says he wants to make a big blind side is he going to be this guy that just wants to make a blind side for the sake of making a blind side or is it going to be you know is he preempting it or is it going to be something that he can do but one of the things that really stands out to me is a healthcare worker so as a healthcare worker you do need to have a lot of empathy you do need to get along with people really well and you have to care for them to be able to work with them so i think those things potentially could help him in the game but i am i'm a bit worried for jackson i'm not gonna lie it's why i'm picking him this low i don't know where he's to fit in this game but then again maybe he'll do well originally i had him just to get above jonathan and i kind of changed it now because i was going to pick both of them any case it doesn't really matter but you know i'm a little bit worried for him what do you think of jackson i you know i like jackson but it's like everything that he said in the interviews i'm kind of i kind of scratch my head out a bit and it he kind of confuses me a bit with what he wants to be he wants to be honest but also yeah he wants to like run the game as well which i don't think those two can really coincide and
1:28:08 He's got a lot of things going for him he's like you said a healthcare worker he started in and runs his own company he is extremely hardworking he does weight lifting so he's really in shape which by the way he looks really good for 48 i don't think he looks that well or looks that old sorry yeah and yeah i think he's just gonna be a bit too passive and i think people are just gonna see him as like oh yeah the likable kind of guy that's just kind of there you know and that worries me a bit but as a as a person i think he seems like a just genuinely great person and i really commend him for what he has gone through like you said i can't imagine going through that takes a lot of resilience and just yeah it's just really admirable yeah definitely i mean it's interesting adrian brings up here that he said that cece is one of his favorite players i did my reaction video earlier today and i had a reaction to that which will drop tomorrow so you guys should go check that out because i was surprised by that and then also
1:29:28 Another player that he mentions that he wants to play the game like is elaine you know from which was the island of the idols so yeah so it's interesting that some of the players that he gives love to isn't necessarily the og legends or the people that you would necessarily think he would really enjoy so yeah i'm he's a bit of a mystery i mean that's why we're picking him this later in the game here and there's not too much that i think we can add to that you've got the last person here left on your side which is going to be marianne i guess that's going to come over what do you have on her what do you think of marianne how do you think she'll be really put on elimination before she even plays the game how do you think she'll be doing i don't really know i for some reason she just doesn't really stand out too much to me i just think that's the main reason why she dropped this low and i think everyone else just kind of stands out as like oh yeah they'll i think they'll be good like chanel jenny hi let's see who else sorry it's not marianne it's maria i think yeah i just don't i don't know like these kind of moms
1:30:49 They're very hit or miss you know or i guess i should say they're usually miss and like we saw with heather last season i mean i've we've heard conflicting things ricard says she could have had a chance of winning but i don't know if i buy that and you know she made it far in the game but she didn't ultimately win julie made it to the end was given was pretty much just disregarded in that final tribal and i don't know i just it's hard to when we're doing a draft and we're supposed to pick the players that we think are going to do the best when we're picking someone whose archetype generally just does not do very well so it's just it's hard yeah i mean you kind of spelled it out all the concerns i have she's going to be the she's definitely going to be the mom out there she is a stay-at-home mom as well so she'll fall into that role and probably allow for people to put her in that bracket while she's out there she wants to be a mix between angelina and tony i want to see that i really want to see her be a mix between angelina and tony because i like i know a lot of people are not that high in angelina i think angelina's amazing tv
1:32:09 I love tony obviously so if she could be a mix between the two i'd love to see that but like you said the archetype she falls into they either go far and don't get respected at the end like a chrissy or they don't go far at all and they don't make a dip in the game at all so it's very hard to place her here this season i hope i'm completely wrong and you know me and you we've completely shaded a whole tribe here today we've shaded taku because we're very low on taku as a whole you know we've got we are about marianne maria lindsey i think lindsay were probably the highest on in that tribe jonathan and jackson and we didn't have too many good things to say about a lot of the people in their tribe like not and again just putting it out there we don't know them as people we've seen snippets so far of a video before they go out there and play and a lot of the times the videos don't really mean much like i've seen so many times where people get so invested in the pre-season that when the actual game play they're really disappointed that their favorites are not doing well because this is just pre-season content right now but those are the final ones there that's the final teams and sorry for the face is being cut off a few of the players i'm going to sort that out when we go into the next one myself and jake will be talking about the show here weekly we will be eliminating players and then ultimately i think jake we should have a little friendly wager going
1:33:30 On about who's gonna win and after most players go into the merge that'll be the one point to be interesting to see who gets the most players at the merge and then secondly ultimately who's going to win here the bragging rights for the very first draft that we've had for survivor us i think is going to be very interesting and very fun to have a look at i feel very confident about my team jake how do you feel about yours i feel confident too so we'll see i think i think this season is gonna be unpredictable i think that's kind of the theme with three tribe seasons is it can get a little bit messy at the beginning where like if one tribe loses a couple you lose players that probably would have done better a lot better if there were two tribes and they could have you know kind of blended in a bit more i love taj so and again i reacted to that on the video that's going to come out tomorrow my reaction to some of the videos i love when they brought up taj has been shaded so far in survival and haven't been brought back yet dylan ferry also just jumped in here on the live dylan welcome always good to have you here i hope you go back and watch a few of our cast assessments here that we've gone through today and why we've picked certain players in certain spots but you know as we get into the end here of this specific podcast i want to thank everybody
1:34:50 That's watched this video and that have gotten this far into it to hear two fans talk about you know a lot of things that we apologize on and you know we've got our own theories in regards to who's going to do well but we don't know anything we're not spoiled we don't know where things are going to end up this season and i hope that you guys will join us in the journey as we do our very first ever recap every episode we'll try and keep it tight 40 to 45 minutes and unless there's a lot to talk about we'll yeah there's no real limit we're not on a network here so you know we can we can talk for as long as we want but we're trying to keep it tight to the most important things each episode and i hope you guys come back and you have fun and hit subscribe you know hit the like button on this video give us support i'm so grateful for everybody that has helped us get to 223 subscribers when we hit 500 subscribers i will be giving away an australian survivor merge buff for last season now to give you an idea for those that are in the u.s and that have never seen australian survivor that same buff was selling for 750 us dollars on ebay because it's so rare it's not available to the public in general so whenever these buffs become available they're worth a lot of money so and it's going to be fully still with the tags on i've never used the walnut or anything like that it's a brand new australian survivor merge buffer last season and that's going to become available when we hit 500 subs i'll have a competition running for that i'm really excited to give it
1:36:10 Away jake it's been great talking to you man like i think that we should do one more we should do one more podcast before the season starts maybe even next week we do like a little mini one talking about what we think will happen this season and what we're looking forward to and you know based off what we've seen on season 41 i'm really having my fingers crossed that this is going to be a good season because 41 it had its moments but overall i think it fell flat a little bit i agree i think it would kind of like it was very up and down for me one episode in particular it was like episode three or four one of the worst episodes i've ever seen of survivor just so many advantages so much like i know it's been beaten to death by fans but it's just too much there's just it's we're kind of losing the essence but then the very next episode it's like oh personalities suddenly exist now and the editors decide to focus on that it's like what the heck is happening then the episode where shan gets voted out amazing like in that cast they had great cast but it just seemed like it had so many things working against it and inspired those thoughts keep those thoughts for next week i think we should talk about this next week in a mini podcast let's talk about what worked well at 41
1:37:30 What didn't work well and what we hope to see in 42 but as we close off here again guys thank you so much for watching we will be back next week to talk about we'll do a little bit of a pre-season discussion on what we'd like to see on season 42 and as always you'll see me and jake back next week to talk about australian survivor we will be joined by a former player gerald from last season he's going to be on the podcast same time that we did the interview with way this week to talk about next week of australian survival which has been really good to watch as well thanks guys as always and we will catch you next time goodbye