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The Amazing Race Australia: Celebrity Edition 2023 Week 6

Podcast episode · 12 Nov 2023 · 1 hr 16 min

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0:10 [Music] [Music] p [Music] [Music] welcome back to the nullified Tech channel here on YouTube we've got the TNT takes for you for the Amazing Race Australia it is I'm very happy to be joined by V Michelle Tom we're going to be discussing the final week of The Amazing Race Australia celebrity edition and what a final week it was we had two episodes again as always episodes 11 and 12 and we finally saw the end of The Amazing Race Australia season seven what did you think of the season seven as a whole Michelle are you are you feeling good about the end I

1:30 Am because I love the cast and I love India was included even though it was only Asian countries I loved India so and the cast is great so I am okay with this season there you go V new two Amazing Race didn't have a lot of experience you kind of crammed a little bit in before we kind of started the season how are you feeling after your first full season of The Amazing Race Australia oh it was such fun it was really fun it's a fun show it's very wholesome and just lovely I enjoyed it just lovely just lovely it's really nice maybe this season they were nicer to each other than they are generally but they were very nice to each other this season they were and Tom maybe turning back to the dark side once again how are you feeling after a season of The Amazing Race Australia hello there no it's this is my celebratory gown I mean I'm quite offended none of you dressed up I got this I got tux on got the tux on I'm feeling very underdressed yeah I shaved I mean at least Kahuna shaved but V Michelle what are your excuses don't know yeah look I got here in time yeah I've got a button

2:51 Here you can't read it but it says luck off yeah I'm feeling ve very fancy dressed and of course I'm wearing gold pants I'm not lying and I'm not going to show you so yeah I'm wearing no pants so that's my well you should show us that can you two stand up yeah let's see who's telling the truth we want to send a big shout out to the people in chat already of course we have our fifth member the statistician the guy gives us all the info and the numbers Jonathan gray made it this time good on you Jonathan hey Jonathan Ellen back again this time at least there's a comment that doesn't mention Jana hey so crazy that this season has come to an end a really satisfying end to a wonderful season next year's cele version has a lot to live up to I agree yeah Jonathan agrees is our top three season easily the best bow season yeah I think so and also it was so nice only having 12 FS rather than 24 to be honest yeah so we did get a tighter shorter season little bit more Compact and I think I agree with Ellen like I appreciated the fact that it was so tight and well paced and quick there wasn't a lot of filler in between I didn't feel like it was dragging out and I didn't

4:11 Have to see all your beautiful faces for six months as opposed to you know 12 weeks instead of 24 weeks so that I think that works out well like it keeps it going fast you know what I mean yeah it does sure it was only it's six it was only six weeks not even 12 it was six weeks season six weeks sorry two a week whereas you know the US one is a 12we do yeah and of course Ellen says we finally saw the waterfall pit stop it's a little embarrassing there's no waterfall in the background really I thought there was we kep calling it The Waterfall isn't it for a long time look yeah there's a lake and I saw the water so I called it a waterful but I want to coin the term from now on in all reality TV shows the waterfall immunity which means when a team you know a team is safe because of an editing blunder so it's like having a hidden immunity idol that will run until you see that thing let's call it the waterfall edit yeah waterful Ed there you go coining it's gonna be used from now on Ellen said I could bring up y if you'd like H we're good let the woman rest keep going said for the first time in three years every team RAC in every episode

5:31 Ah okay yes Jonathan sometimes you didn't see a team it was really weird oh right okay because especially last season I assume with 24 or whatever it is like crazy there so much the editing you need to do to give an equal storyline across the board there but this year we didn't have that problem and leby welcome saying wish they follow up this season with a normal non selib season if Network te want to have 20 plus episodes of The Amazing Race it already has been confirmed for next season it's going to be celebrity one again isn't it oh really yeah they're going back to the well they liked it they obviously even before the season finished they saw what they had they saw the edit and realized that this is the way to go apparently what do you think in comparing the normal everyday Aussies versus the celebrity version Michelle being the Amazing Race expert here look if you can get a really good bunch of Aussies a really good casts and it will be a good season like the season two from 2012 great season still a cast great destinations and so that's why it has been deemed one of the best seasons in the world

6:51 And because this was just Asia but it also had such a good lot of challenges and it was a good cast they did well I don't know how they can live up to it next year with another celebrity cast they're going to really have to dig deep to find to put in propes words to find you know a cast as good as this one I like normal everyday people as people call them if they're good personalities yeah Tom what are your thoughts on it would you go back to the well for celebrity or do you think we should go back to normal Aussies well one thing I don't like is when someone does something good and then they think let's not try and do anything new and interesting let's do the exact same thing I would be okay with maybe similar to Champions versus contenders Survivor you could have six celeb teams and six Regular Joe teams and you know you could you could sort of have a battle cuz I know back in the day there was an Australian versus New Zealand Amazing Race and I wouldn't say that was a good season but I don't think I think the concept wasn't bad I think was a good concept there so having like races that might have an inbuilt

8:12 Reason to support each other from the get-go just because they're part they're part of the same side would make it a little bit more interesting like you know like that you sort of you got built-in rivalries instead of just a whole bunch of random people and then you know halfway through the race they all figure out they hate George and that's when you know they all work against him I not they were working against him I think everyone wanted George at the end because easiest beat in history I reckon if I reckon if George or Harry and Teddy were at the end Darren would have stepped on that mat a little bit earlier all I'm saying V would you have done the same thing look yeah I like what Tom said where there's a where you've got a bit of a fans versus favorites I always like those sort of Seasons where you get a bit of Best of Both Worlds I think the celebrity thing could get a little bit dry after a while and you know I think part of these shows is that it's aspirational that you're supposed to watch thinking that you could have a chance and do it better so I think if you saw celebrities all the time you'd go well they're clearly not getting the regular Joe's anymore so I think I think a fans versus favorites I think would be a better choice but and then what do you do with the money though like the fans get

9:32 The money but the but the celebrities don't that it goes to charity and the public would want the charity to win they wouldn't want any of the regular people to win then so it'd be a bit difficult wouldn't it well the regular people could be charity cases let's be let's be real like you know they're all poor that's what regular people are right yeah I think it depends on the celebrity I don't think people always trip over the idea of celebrities winning the money in Australia I think our definition of celebrity is a little bit loose sometimes as well like I watch I watch shows and you can't tell me that you know danne is it was danne is it danne Simpson he's a celebrity but you can't tell me he's Rich enough that he wouldn't want the money if he actually won aazing race you know what I mean like you get people in the show but I think what sets it part and I kind of appreciate like I'll show you a bit about my another real reality show or a game show that shows my nerdy side but one of my favorite shows at the moment is celebrity letters and numbers have you heard of this it's on SPS it's basically it used to be called in this in the UK it's a show called countdown where

10:52 There's two different games within the game you get a bunch of random letters and then within 60 sets 60 seconds you have to make as many words as you can out of those letters right oh yeah and then another version of it is that there's random numbers generated and then you have to use those numbers generated to come up with a formula to get to a an end number okay so they just give you random numbers and using these numbers you have to plus this minus that times that to get okay so it's a very nerdy kind of game show where you compete and win a small prize money but lately in the australi version they've done it and changed it to celebrity version so all the competitors are Comedians and things like that right and I remember going why do they want to do everything celebrity in Australia versus nor and I got it because I was watching this show and I think it applies to The Amazing Race as well in that you've got a budget that you're working with and you can either give that money out as prize money to the winner at the end for a normal person or you can use your budget for appearance fees and then a small amount for charity as well right and that way you're getting the celebrity name you're getting the you know they're always going to be good on camera they're going to give good confessionals they know how to like work within the entertainment

12:13 Industry and probably work with the producers to get the best shots and they'll probably do a challenge in a certain way or open up to camera so that they're getting the right angles they know what they're doing because that's their job and it costs just as much if you're giving out a $250,000 prize versus $100,000 prize and then actually giving toble it is there you go so there's that as well right but you know you're G to get entertaining people that know how to entertain because that's their literal job you're very rarely going to get people that aren't as good on it and then you get that element of as well like someone one of you mentioned that when it's celebrities you can kind of watch and go maybe I could beat them and that was the case with that show that I like celebrity numbers letters and numbers and when they used to have Celebrity Jeopardy and celebrity sale of the century they dumb it down a little bit because the celebrities aren't like necessarily the smartest either so if you're going to put celebrities on an all celebrity show the standard maybe comes down ever so slightly so that adds to it as well you're like I can actually you know compare myself to it a little bit more but I can see why they would want to do it Ellen said here if the if the Amazing Race Au is getting the ratings

13:33 With celeb Seasons I understand why they're going to do it again next year they can have normal Aussies after that though please yeah though yeah I can see the benefits of it and they're going straight back to the well they're not like giving a couple seasons in between to let the novelty wear off and every time a celebrity one comes up you go oh cool like you know a celebrity one but if it just becomes the standard there it does kind of wear off a little bit I think I have a I have a question for Ellen what qualifies as a normal Aussie cuz when I have the chance I'm going to apply for Gen and would you call this a normal Aussie does this does this qualify for that I mean Aussie say oie I wore this I wore this shirt in my Survivor self tape for the latest season and of course they had you know ti versus Rebels as the theme you know and I guess I'm I don't look like a Titan and I don't exactly look like a rebel either but when that season inevitably crashes and burns they'll know where they made the mistake so it's just all about finding good casting people who clearly are interesting and yeah I know I know a few people who went through to like the second or third round for That season and they TI

14:53 Oh yeah one of them just look like a Titan yeah he looks like a Titan and self tape was terrible it was super messy and everything but he just looks swo so he made it through he looks like TI yeah but anyway so yeah the key is muscles or looking like a villainous person which I'm I don't look like it I guess well I'll make a confession Tom that I have worked in casting before for an I will not name the show but I have worked in casting and I would be very interested in you so there you go thank you yeah see I thought crazy enough to work I thought the bow tie I even I went down the villain George route and because I thought you know just after heo those villains they'd want more of that but yeah H stupid people everywhere that's all I'm saying if you could cook as well I would have been very interested in you and that's all I'll say I can make I can make a mean bowl of rice there you go that's enough yeah important it's important skill that one there man you got to put the water up to the fingertip finger thing everyone knows that measurement everyone stuffs it up honestly it's ridiculous Amateur hour all right so we do have our celebrities which we all agree it was a good season we like our celebrities we thought they were a great cast because of what

16:13 They sort of brought to the show but we see we get down to our final four in the penultimate leg of The Amazing Race show season seven we begin at kaching International Airport where the first challenge is to go to a market once again and put together your shopping list of items but this time it's for a the clue said a jungle celebrity which they all sort of liked and appreciated and they're like oh a celebrity and they find themselves at the market and then on their way to a wildlife center for what becomes a an intersection where we get to see teams team up once again now there wasn't I'm skipping ahead head but did you want to discuss anything at the market there's not that like it's the same task yeah just Market yeah get it head to the next thing and they've find out there's an intersection where they have to team up Darren and Tristan wind up first allly and Angie end up coming into second place so they team out with Darren and Tristan which means Harry and Teddy Emma and Haley are teaming up to basically feed the orangutang breakfast and then they also need to remember specific details about them and basically what they've been taught

17:34 What they've heard about these orangutangs and remember them in detail what did you think of this challenge Michelle first of all too late for an intersection it shouldn't be at the final four yeah absolutely ridiculous the latest is should be at final six you know even final eight like what why final four it just messes with people and I don't agree I don't agree with it I love the challenge though I love how they have to remember all the information and you know Darren and Ally and Angie and Tristan were so onto it remembering all the bits and pieces even repeating lines you know and saying them back and this is where you know Emer and Haley were good for remembering things but obviously they were hoping the boys would try and remember something but they were empty vessels basically I love how the girls kept up the positivity as well they were like oh you know they go for a party yeah we have talked before about how it seems like some people are saying that Emma and Haley get challenges that are perfect for them this was not that for har Harry and Teddy right yeah

18:54 Did not play up to their skill set Tom I thought Darren was being a harsh when he was saying oh the boys are useless and they I thought all of a sudden he turned a little bit vicious towards them but he was right but I thought he was a bit unnecessarily harsh on those poor Betty and Teddy I also think that the challenges that Harry and Teddy would be good at are the ones that and Tristan would also be good at so maybe they sort of wanted them out because in a final three it depending on the challenges Harry and Teddy could steamroll the competition just depend depending on the challenges that is the challenges that ended up happening would oh Harry and Teddy I wish they made the final three that would have been great seeing them in the Bookshop and then doing the memory stuff man that we missed out there again like they mentioned it themselves it wasn't my phrase but their dumb head came into play again and made them not because it was an intersection as well it also impacted em and Haley but one good thing for em and Haley coming out of the rang oh but I forgot I really appreciated like you mentioned before Michelle that

20:14 One of the good things about this season is the challenges they've had have actually been pretty great really great locations very visually inspiring like set pieces and this one as well with the rang tanks Darren got really emotional and like seem to really appre said it was a lifelong dream of his and this is the sort of thing that Amazing Race can do and show is all these cool things that you don't necessarily get in an island of Survivor or in a house of big brother is that there's not a lot of orangutangs in other reality shows you know what I mean really so it really adds to it yeah there're sea snakes and things like that I will say those of tangs I'm dead inside but I felt something with Darren and those of tangs I thought it was beautiful I watched both episodes back to back and there was some mushy stuff later on that I didn't like too much but the orang tangs I felt that it was very beautiful moment for Darren and just for Darren yeah everyone else loses they do complete it and because of the intersection they are teamed up Emma Haley are weighed down somewhat by Harry and Teddy's memory and one good thing that works out for Emma and Haley

21:35 Coming from here is that going to the next bit the next challenge is that Harry and Teddy go in the complete wrong direction for a while too they're like I don't know man like what are we doing here and they just keep going like what's the play there if you don't if you think you're going the wrong direction do you stop immediately and find out because we've seen sometimes they go for like an hour in the complete opposite direction drive and drive and drive like the one said to the other I trust you and the driver said I don't trust me like I don't even know who said it who but like stop the car this is crazy God so then the next challenge is they end up at the campon danu river and they basically have to build bamboo rafts like their own thing and weave them and bind them together which seems to be a much more difficult task than you know they probably thought leading into it right when you think about it you think oh it's just a bunch of bamboo you titled together but to be able to get it to not only float and maintain but also carry your own weight there's a certain skill to it for sure Tom yeah and I found it funny how like I was thinking

22:55 Oh Harry and Teddy might be at the back but they'll smash this Challenge and then Teddy's just like yeah no I can't like I built a desk at from Ikea and I was pretty proud of that my dad was next to me and he was like oh I'm offended for men right now like he like this guy is useless U but I was thinking because they were really good at the silk challenge like that was the best challenge so like I thought the little tiny bit of I guess delicacy you need for like tying the strings and getting through all the like the cracks and everything they'd be good at not to mention I guess like any like strength or like just hand stuff like they're at the gym pumping dumbbells every day thought their hands would be used to like you know getting into the work I guess they probably get their hands manicured after they go to the gym so who knows oh yeah I'd be scared I'd use up all the Rope you know wanting it to be firm because you know these rfts have just integrated before so I'd be wanting to use a lot of rope and the problem is I probably wouldn't have my raft long enough I mean wide enough because I've used up all the roof and I can't put any more bamboo on that's always a fear of mine and I've never even done the challenge but every time I see it I worry about that

24:16 It's this thing I have so it is finite resources isn't it like the rope and stuff they have to figure out how to use it most efficiently and most effectively otherwise you could just like get it unlimited rope and B it completely like nonstop so yeah there's a bit of a challenge to that how are you at crafting bamboo rafts V oh well I mean it's one of my strengths no that thing would be wobbly it would disintegrate I would be alligator of crocodile food within five minutes on that thing be there the show would be over I'd still be there trying to make it sorry was it real crocodile Darren saw or a log or something no crocodiles in Borneo there isn't there aren't any I don't know it look dodgy Ellen said watching this challenge gave me horrible flashbacks of a E6 camp where I had to build one but it sunk yeah make one when you 11 that's crazy that's a big ask although sorry I'm wrong okay plenty of them let me just say it's a saltwater crocodile so

25:36 It's not in rivers Borneo is home to the giant not just the saltwater crocodile the giant saltwater crocodile the biggest reptile on Earth at eight meters long fully grown yeah he find me and i' be just sitting on a pile of sticks in the water at that stage even bigger than Australia wow my God Jesus considering that there are 8 meter crocodiles in Borneo Alli and Angie flipped as well there yeah like can swim so that's true swimmer she's a swimmer she swam for Australia I don't know if people know that or not but they had to do that speed bump first oh wait who did the speed bump yeah alien for another super easy speed bump Dead Set where's the consistency people well if they're really bad with a slingshot it might not have worked well thumb no they didn't want any fireworks for Ali and Angie because they didn't deserve it for that challenge I'm just saying I would I would give fireworks to this comment from leai my favorite moment of the episode

26:56 Is the raft judge the way he Jud raft is so funny and sus oh so tight yeah I clocked that too there is fireworks so I was thinking I was going to actually mention that IET forgot about it okay so the raft challenge was basically six kilometers that they're rafting through all the crocodiles and all that sort of thing Alli and Angie recover from their ra flip Darren and Tristan end up going first whereas and then Ali and Angie em and Haley Harry and Teddy last again and they get to our roadblock which is basically the blow dart challenge which I was really excited for this because every young boy just imagines being junker with blow darts like I'm I know I did maybe I'm wrong in that regard Tom did you have you ever thought and think that you could definitely do blow start Warfare I thought it was cool but I was like I think I think was it Harry or Teddy who I don't know whoever wasn't doing it was like oh make sure you don't inhale that's what I was thinking the whole time I definitely like [Laughter]

28:16 Oh we had again the tradition of people saying that I do X in real life therefore I'm good at Y in The Amazing Race and Darren saying that at school he used to do the peash shho and blow paper wads black do you get that to you now do you get that done to you Michelle are you are you now the vitim little no they don't have pens you need pens to do that mine only have pencils you don't want them throwing them or learning how to fling them with velocity oh God no yeah blowdart challenge V what did you think hard easy good bad looked like you needed a lot of luck it really seemed like luck right because Tristan was going for a while allly rocked up he even gave her like oh a little bit of advice maybe don't have it quite on the edge or something like that and first go like immediately so how I don't know how skill-based it was and I think it looks easier yeah it's probably easier than it looks it looks really it looks impossible but I think it seemed to be easier than it looked

29:36 That's people seem to be able to roll through it pretty quick but yeah a lot of luck involved especially when they're like oh I got the little one wasn't aiming for it but yeah I got the hardest one first yeah so yeah the roadblock challenge blow doarts a little bit of like in there again really good variety of challenges that we're seeing here different skills tested different you know resilience patience all that sort of thing which I always appreciate about the Amazing Race is that it's just so full faceted that it's not one team that could be physically dominant or puzzle dominant or whatever it is it really does need a multifaceted approach and skills across the board we end up from that roadblock basically heading to the what do we what did weci we calling it The Waterfall edit waterfall the waterfall edit yes the coined and minted TM so after this roadblock we basically find our way to the waterfall that didn't fall much water the waterfall of death the waterfall of death not for everyone because Ali and Angie after the luck of blow dart you know oh I got the small one first

30:57 Ends up finishing first they beat Darren CH second em and Haley third and then we see finally after six weeks and many episodes when they actually spoiled it before the season even started we get to see Harry and Teddy standing before B in front of the famous waterfall that wasn't and we finally get so the immunity stood strong Tom yeah and the whole time when I've been saying waterfall really meant as like a metaphor like you know they're going down a stream and then once they reach this destination that's when they plummet once again to their death so I didn't actually think there was a waterfall I was talking from a more artistic standpoint tears waterf yeah I mean metaphor it was a beautiful moment there was one thing that made me laugh a little bit and this is bad but when they when Bo when Bo was doing the like the sort of Lifeline Beyond on Blue Spiel they had like the lady who was at the pit stop and she had no idea what was Going's doing his really he's doing his this really emotional moment and she just goes she just looks like up there she's like what's going on I couldn't help but laugh it was it was like maybe they should have done a closeup on B

32:17 For that because yeah she kind of kind of killed the mood a little bit Yeah but it was other than that there was a really like beautiful moment between Harry and B and all the hugging you know just bro I love you bro Bros had big feelings man like you know oh such big feelings bring it in as he says Ellen said the waterfall edit is production fail but yeah the waterfall edit we say goodbye to Harry and Teddy in fourth position how do you how do you we sort of sum up Harry and Teddy you coming and forth did they sort of get over should they have done better I think they kind of probably achieved a little bit more than they should have probably right yeah I think they landed where they should I didn't think they should have been in the top three I think I said at the start of the Season they're a team that like had like would have a lot of strengths but like one big weakness which in this case was their Direction and it would cost them in the late game but they'd be able to mainly be somewhat dominant for majority of the race of course they had their little stint in the Middle where they were doing pretty poorly but they were great at the start sort of great towards the end and then waterfall yeah

33:38 Know waterfall if Harry and Teddy I think didn't have the again quote I love the dumb head the mental lapses like I think they probably would have won a few more legs along the way maybe even avoided elimination this week because like again it's just it comes down to them getting loss not following instructions not reading something properly not remembering the rangang details and they seem to have a lot of the other stuff down pretty good like you mentioned obviously they're huge they've got the physical component but they could also do things like the silk and you know they seem to have some pretty good things but when it comes to just the mental game and that side of it they kind of dro the ball a little bit I think well that's just how it is if you don't if you need all faculties working for the race and one thing can let you down how it is so we had orangutangs we had bamboo rafts we had blow darts and we said goodbye to Teddy we had waterfalls again that weren really waterfalls and we said goodbye to Harry and Harry and Teddy and it did mean that for the first time in Amazing Race Australia history and all female team could potentially

34:58 Get to the end we've got Darren and Tristan we got Emma and Haley and we've got Ali and Angie a good combination of people lead leading into the last episode 12 what do you think I feel like the final four as well as a whole like even having Harry and Harry and Teddy there it's a very strong final four any of them Harry and Teddy probably the weakest but any of them probably could have won right and I don't think there's anyone else in the rest of the race that has been eliminated maybe except for Tom he might disagree with Beck and Kate but there's no one else one weakness that should have been up you would swap someone out yeah well Beck and Kate should have been at top but other than that you know I yeah right like people everyone that's in the final three should be in the final three yeah and people who aren't in the final three don't necessarily like sometimes you get someone knocked out early and you oh they were really good but you know something bad happened they probably could have gone all the way I'm not feel pretty satisfied maybe Grant well I mean Jonathan seems to love Jan and core I'm surprised Ellen's not ripping his head off in the comments I mean I agree yes they can shine in

36:18 Some episodes but if there was if like Harry and Teddy and Jan and C did 100 legs I imagine J and would come last and more of them than Harry and Teddy would just because they're like this or that and I think Harry and Teddy for the most part like here a little bit more consistency yeah so Yan and core they won they also came second quite a bit so I think theirs is just yeah it's the consist it's rocks and diamonds it's highs and lows and sometimes those lows can be too low to recover from in a game like The Amazing Race right yeah so we go into our final episode the finale who's going to win who's going to get to the mat first who's going to win the race and be our amazing Racers the final three teams start the final league in K quala lour and they're reflecting on their Journey so far and that we start off with the first challenge is it's called I wrote down my notes and sometimes I've I write too fast or I'm not sure what I wrote when I come back to it but fangs by Dori teams basically build a fancy dessert with one member blindfolded this is V's like type of challenge

37:39 He loves the fruit baskets and the flower some fruit bouquet and more fruit here what do we think of this one well see this is one I couldn't relate to because I adore snakes I've actually paid good money to have that sort of experience with snakes and so they're getting it for free and so I couldn't quite put myself in the position of how that would be off-putting but you know you can't even think how it might be offputting to have a freaking giant ALB I've had py my body to win money and that yellow snake was just beautiful I'd be distracted by it we have a snake I own a snake so we I take it out as well and I'm cool it's not it's more my wife my wife's like an animal person I'm kind of like tolerant but we own a snake and she has she's got the snake license and all that sort of thing and I get it out and I hold it and I'm comfortable and I'm cool with him he's name is sal Salazar oh my God but or S you just call him s how you think of that one but there are times where if he if I'm holding

38:59 Him in my arm and he'll like go up just that little bit where I can't see where his head is or I'm like I just like I just do that little bit like I'm cool with him he's my snake I hold him all the time but there every now and then like it's still a snake and my one is nowhere near as big as that dude and I think like as comfortable as I am that so beautiful a giant python like the ones that it's not it's never it was never going to be dangerous there was nothing was ever going to happen like I don't particularly like walking in the bush and seeing a snake that's when snakes scare me but you know a it just it'd come up and it give you kisses in your ear and that would be what distracted me that would but yeah that's what I mean just look beautiful surely you can at least like the initial like you're blindfolded and all of a sudden a heavy scaly thing is touching your neck and like just without prompt that part's got to be that' be the part that gets me cuz I'm like a very flinchy person like someone walks into a room I'm like so if I'm just blindfolded and a snake I'd just do that and like I don't think the snake would appreciate me doing that you know but like I've they were told to keep still yeah still you know that's you never know when it's gonna come don't move or

40:19 You die yeah I'd be relieved it was a snake and nothing else I'd just be like oh it's a baby oh I'd be excited but I can like I can understand like that it could scare some people I just I don't know I'd be stoked yeah so you like the snake side you're not as big on the on the fruit dessert side well the fruit this wasn't quite as boring as the others I liked the challenge of needing to relay that information I think it was a bit more interesting than just copying something looking at it so and they had the snake involved so I liked how they all explained it so differently like yeah I think Emma was saying it's a volcano and then someone else was saying there's drips coming down it was just the way they interpreted it even angles Darren's like when you look at it from the top it looks like something's just been Splat on it yeah and then I think Emma said the seven petals to the flower and you just see the different mindsets and approaches that describe things she gave a year group like the drawing of the petals so I think did she say kindergarten or year one or something she was saying those sort of flower petals like she was

41:39 Really specific it was great not specific enough though was Angie describing how you put your little star man oh star watermelon fruit yeah on the on the watermelon Bowl which you know was the issue because Angie and Ally actually had the check first but just oriented the star on the watermelon ball a little bit funny which means that em and Haley who did listen because they again how you describe things makes a difference says he's sitting on there like a little man with his legs on with the legs on the side and point at the top and that's the best way to describe it because that's exactly what I saw when I looked at it like you put him on there like a little dude so yeah it meant that em and Haley were able to get the clue Darren and Tristan also got approved after fixing their mistakes so one thing that I'm liking so far in the finale and even the penel episode as well I don't know if this is editing or production or the way it's kind of worked out but I know in previous seasons of The Amazing Race us I've seen hourong gaps like so big gaps and people are often racing by themselves and when

42:59 You get to the final three I guess it was different because they he launched them all at the same time there was no like time from when you checked in you were released at that time everyone went at the same time but to have them racing together completing the task together and then going to the one of the world's biggest bookshops together for a book club which was called book excess this Bookshop this is crazy like this is like one of the best bookshops I've ever seen what did you think of this Michelle I thought it was amazing and especially I couldn't understand how they I'd see that hole straight away and the map straight away it's just something I just look at minut details all around me all the time so I couldn't understand why they couldn't see it was driving me crazy I'm like you're even looking at it Darren what are you doing like it was insane for me but I love this idea it's so different it's like they haven't done this before like sometimes you know the Aussie Seasons copy things that have been in the other SE other you know franchises because it's easy you go to that country they've already got the setup with the people there they've done it before so it's you

44:19 Know the production knows what to do but I love it when they bring in new things that no one's done before and this is one of those and it was just interesting I got a real like National Treasure Goonies kind of vibe like having to figure something out and follow the map and blah and it's actually a secret thing hidden on the wall that's in plain sight but you need like I really dug that so basically they end up in this Bookshop they have to find the Travel section which has a map they open the map and there are cutouts on the map that basically tells them where the next clue is but they don't know how or what reference that map is it's basically a grid square or Square grid with certain sections cut out like Tetris pieces they happen to line up with the giant Florida ceiling bookshelf and if you put your map over the bookshelf then you find the Declaration of Independence but there was it obviously showed them the section there so that was that was really cool Darren Chamber of Secrets since we're talking about sther oh yeah or maybe the Chamber of Secrets opens up or whatever yeah for sure that be I couldn't believe oh I couldn't believe emmer and Haley like

45:39 They finally find it and they're like it's in the Travel section like wasn't that like in the clue because like Ali and Angie and Darren and said Travel section straight away and I'm like girls you something all right yeah they couldn't find I thought I heard them at one point say transport and I was like did they confuse transport with travel and there's no there's not a lot of Transport sections at a book shop is the history of book on Mac trucks yeah but if I ever went there I'd just ask for the book on the top shelf like what was the point of some of those books like no one ever gets are the ones that are like 20 ft up in yeah there's no way to possibly get them or maybe like I just walk in there and just in L start climbing the bookshelves like ah sir please I'm get it I want that top book I want that copy of Harry Potter I want it but you'll get there and it will just be cardboard be like they tricked me it's just like the worst book ever I'm like really come on guys 50 Shades of Gray I mentioned before the Declaration of Independence Ellen agreed with me gave me the National Treasure Vibes there you go oh Jonathan with some stats for a six episodes in Malaysia half a season in the country no other Amazing Race season has been has done that

46:59 Wow yeah breaking records so Emma and Team struggle to obviously figure out the puzzle but Emma and Haley sorry Angie and allly see Darren and Tristan what they're doing holding map up and they kind of follow each other one thing I liked about this section I don't know if you've noticed this or picked up on it but it seems to have been a real thing for em and Haley specifically throughout the season and I'm really glad in the final episode in the final Challen or one of the final challenges when they got their clue and she ripped the thing it was a really good rip and H Haley even said good rip Emma like they were so excited to do the rip well because it seems like a real isue all the way to the end I've opened one of these envelopes before and you want the good rip you want to get all the way to the end it seems to like be a real issue for them like CU when they get it they're like stoked as like yeah we got one we got a good rip like they're more excited about the rip than they are the challenge or whatever funny so we actually go to a third challenge actually I'm gonna this is going into what I'm about to say Ellen said I really appreciate how packed this episode was but it didn't feel rushed they could have P it out with filler but they didn't which

48:19 I appreciated yeah we got I think we got four challenges in this episode alone and was back to back to back a very quick through and because there's only a three teams left we're getting through the challenges quickly as well because you don't have to see six seven eight teams complete it and get the full edit you know what I mean so we're getting really good edits of the actual challenges themselves and then we're going to the next one and the third challenge is a route info called hip hop don't stop where they go to the mashid jameek bridge and basically have to learn a mop hipop pop dance routine Tom you're our resident musician I was familiar with Jpop I was familiar with K-pop never heard of mop before are you a big mop offici I'm sure every country has like a you know whatever the first letter is Pop I'm not really a fan of like any of those specific genres but all I can say is another Dance Challenge oh that's convenient oh how good were emmer and Haley at it though almost like of course they going to be almost like they're professional it's like they know how to dance or something leading up to the challenge by the way after the good rip they're in the taxi going to

49:40 The challenge and one of the things that I wrote down is that Emer Haley knowing that it was a dancing challenge just started saying dancing dancing dancing said Thank You producers thank you producers thank you producers yeah what do you think of em and Haley and Alli going on Taxi Darren and Tristan deciding to go on foot it could be a risky move which we've seen in The Amazing Race before play a big part sometimes it could mean the difference between first and last or eliminated or safe Darren and Tristan take the Gamble and go on foot is that a good idea Michelle depends if you're you know fit enough to be able to jog it if you need to jog or run sometimes in an Asian country in particular it is faster on foot than to get stuck in the traffic jam but it was getting late in the day now maybe it was around Peak hour it could have been better on foot I mean it didn't make much of a difference for this episode turns out it was a gamble worth the risk because they maintain their spot Maybe even like they said maybe we can even get a few extra minutes on them and which when it comes

51:00 To this end of the game that's what makes all the difference but when it comes to learning dances hip-hop dances by the way one of the biggest shocks of the whole season for me was when Emma memma said with her outfit the way she's wearing and her hat and her shocking red hair and all that sort of thing she said I grew up Loving Hip Hop and I was like what it was pretty cute I did [Laughter] not my favorite she's adorable I love it love I love hip hop her favorites NWA in 36 mafia or something but I was say did anyone else appreciate Ally and Angie they were my favorite part of this challenge just seeing like Ally like full on like Michaelson just smooth and then like Angie's like Peter Garrett from Midnight Oil just like that was that was amazing she looked like a like a robot skeleton and then Angie was like you know good dance it was so funny Angie I mean Angie was so not smooth but the funny thing was is that Ally said I'll say I'll say

52:20 What we're doing but unlike Emer and Haley who would say the step before they did it she would say it as she's doing it so that's why Angie's doing this she's trying to quickly get into the position that Allie's already started so it was it was just a bit hard for poor Angie I thought Ally was quite good at it though I think it was it was another challenge that was made for her she's no slout she was pretty good she's a she's a singer isn't she yeah so dancing stuff yeah there was this moment where she was like as a model singer dancer that and I'm just like actress and I'm like oh okay just calm down just a second okay what else do you do well vibes from Survivor yeah every episode that well Darren's one of those people as well TV host actor like they bring that up he wasn't fxing it too much I feel I feel but the show would say it for him on hisf but Darren did say in this challenge that he watches dances on Tik Tok so he's got this yeah like yeah because I watch dances on Tik Tok and I don't have

53:41 It I'm a Savage [Laughter] ah Darren also said by the way that hip hop dancing is in his blood he's also Sharon McMullen yeah maybe River Dan is in his blood of course as we would expect and as we would expect Emma and Haley complete it first go they nail the choreography it takes it's perfect challenge again for them because you know Emma Grew Up Loving Hip Hop so much Darren and Tristan needed a few attempts three and the smoothness of Ali against the Peter garness of Angie took a couple more times to complete but they finally got there and the teams are running now this is the last the last the last Challenge and they're basically on their way to the final puzzle so they get to what looks like a like as far as production levels go they actually set something very intentional and specific up for this it wasn't just something rehashed or used it like the

55:01 The circle bar where they put the photos that were all back liid and everything against the back backdrop of where they were as well looked really stunning where the challenge was to correctly place 11 photos of places they've visited throughout the throughout the challenge and that they're actually some incorrect photos in there as well so there was the red herrings in there as well as trying to get the chronological order there's some in there that were trying to trick them how do you think you would have gone on this Michelle for one thing one thing why the hell didn't they lay them all on the ground because they're very easily you can put the same country together and see which one is the correct picture or put them in chronological order all 20 and then figure out which one isn't correct not they just kept putting them on that little thing to the side I would have had them all down on the ground would have done it a lot faster obviously you know it's attention to detail you know that there were yellow lanterns instead of Red Lanterns that Darren saw but seriously people why aren't you looking at them all in a huge group like it just frustrated me because when they've had challenges like this before they had one in a recent season I think they had tennis rackets or something like that it was or paddles and people

56:21 Put them out on the floor to figure out what did go there and watch it do you think any of these people have watched The Amazing Race though Michelle that's the Fatal but some of it just like common sense like look at everything it's in its entirety like come on but if you're this is the only time I'm going to defend emmer and Haley when you've got the fruit salad and Hot Potato dance routines just float blocking up your brain 247 you can't make these decisions on these Common Sense decisions so that's the one time I'm gonna defend them you know that's it I also haly actually walked in there and said oh it's like I'm in a TV show wait we are because it was so beautifully set up it was elaborate and it looked great like again the whole season I've been saying like this it's a very well put together show Hy production levels but that last scene there looked spectacular I thought I really did love that so em and haly arrive first Darren and Tristan however take over because Darren picks up that it's the there was no yellow lanterns

57:42 At the dragon at the dragon Temple challenge Dr I swear they're going to do that again when the shot came off I'm like are they going to go Dragon again and they didn't wasted opportunity yeah they should have I'm surprised that Darren you know because I don't know whether he's watched a couple of episodes but he said oh Tristan hi Ellen Tristan you know had written all these notes and it's because he's a lawyer no it's just race 101 you take notes throughout the season and then you're okay by the end but I love how Darren thought it was like this amazing thing that trist has been taking notes well Jonathan said that it is kind of a classic final challenge for The Amazing Race and again had they known that sort of thing then maybe but yeah by Tristan taking those notes it certainly saw them well because they ended up finishing that challenge first em and Haley struggled with it Ali and Angie struggled with it but eventually all three teams competed and Darren and Tristan are making their way to the final checkpoint the end of the race they're looking for the River of Life Lookout Point Darren Tristan get some local help again Darren

59:02 Not afraid to you know recruit locals to help in any challenge the only team that has done it throughout the entire season including just get us to the end I don't even need help with maang I don't need help with language just run with us family come with us strangers apprciate I love this family like oh what was the kid's name that they thought was lost for a second Sebastian sure surely Jonathan will know but my favorite moment of the episode was probably like when Darren and Tristan like oh make sure you guys keep up with us and as soon as they get out of the Train the dad like in the bright yellow shirt is just like he's on it and Darren and trist like oh like oh we're not that fit we're old men dad face he's like I'm going to win The Amazing Race yeah and it's like just leaving his kids Behind like oh who cares about them I can buy new and when the kid was left behind couldn't get through the start the gate thing and Darren's like typical Sebastian always behind oh honestly they were great TV that family they were Darren knows how to find a man Darren knows how to do

1:00:22 Good TV he's got the best one line is season he's picking out strangers he's doing all that sort of thing he watches Tik toks and knows how to dance and he also I believe again because he knows television he is a host he knows what works well he made a massive play here some might say is controversial but really winning The Amazing Race he gets to the mat sees B there and he's about to win and says we're not ready yet he plays what turned out to be a really beautiful television moment he says I want to do it with the other teams and it's get to a sec but I'm assuming I'm assuming that this is only plausible and possible at all because it is a charity celebrity edition yes well because share but obviously they're going to have to put some stock gaps into it for next year because they can't have it happen again so they're going to have to tell people you can't do that again yeah because like what do we know how long they I know the Charity's like hey are you going to give us the extra money now like there's 100 Grand that could have come our way we're only getting 30 did they have to wait long is it something

1:01:42 That could only happen if they were all very close together I don't think they had to wait long for emmer and Haley I don't know how long it would have taken Ally and Angie to finish but I think Emy would been pretty quick I loved that made me really happy yeah so he did say we want to finish with the other competitors he waited for em and Haley stopped them explained to them what he wanted to do they start crying immediately overwhelmed with how generous this is from Darren and Tristan and then they do the same for Angie and allly and together on the count of three they all jump on the mat at the same time for the first time in Amazing Race history we not only have female winner in the Australian show but we have multiple winners at the same time and the way B said all of their names and said you are all the first team to check in like I like yeah I was the same like I don't often I love get emotional about reality TV but this was sweet I thought it was so nice it's for charity they'd raced a long time together I loved it Michelle what did you think of this decision from Darren and trist I don't mind it as long as it doesn't happen again goes on

1:03:03 But I love the idea and it was surprising and yes it was a world first and I do love when Australians do World firsts so yes good and on that note I quickly have to leave because I've got this call coming in and I'm very sorry to leave but I love sharing this season with you guys you finish it off and I'll watch you on the replay than don't worry we'll wait on the map for you we'll wait fireworks bye yeah hey all right are you ready with the fireworks Tom what do you think Kahuna what is it with you and me and every show we do together having some ridiculous ending like no one wins trade is it everyone wins this just honestly and like the one thing that would have made me like the W Emma and Haley more than the other teams is if you know like while Darren's giving his speech like I want us all to you know to be here and share the moment and then and then Emma just pushes him out of like she just like this whole like happiness has being a facade the whole time like get out of the way I want to win and then you know like she just like becomes like terrible person that would have been amazing I was hoping for

1:04:23 That too Ellen's apparently great minds because Ellen said it as well I'm not going to lie I saw the look in Haley's eyes where she was like I could run to them right now and win that would been that would been that would have been a much better TV moment like having someone wait the other teams and then another team Snipes them at the end that would oh I would watch that on repeat for the rest of my life yeah even if even though I wanted Darren and Tristan to win but yeah like I'm not I'm not here for the goodie you know just the're rang tangs wholesome they're awesome you know like I've got the SC I've got the thing right here and seeing three people come first what is this is this like Primary School are we all winners do we all get a ribbon oh Dead Set H just think of it Tom it's good for Darren's brand yeah I synic good for his brand it was very good for his brand yeah but like I said he knows what he's doing as a cynic it made me like his brand a little bit less but I still do love Darren he's still a great guy you know yeah but he's a he's a host himself right he knows what is going to look great as far if he was like if I was Bo I would love this right now if I like

1:05:43 Bo saw what like he was excited by it too he's like wow like they know when something Monumental happens that hasn't been done before when it's going to Target the heartstrings or when it's going to elicit a specific emotion or response I think they kind of get a little bit like it triggers that little thing and they got really excited and Darren knew that and played up to it so I appreciated the savviness of it if not the generosity and the good-natured human Spirit of it but just the he was smart to do it because it looks really good for him as a as a TV host you know what I mean I'll tell I'll tell you something that tugs on the heartstrings Ellen sing killing me out asking my opinion for Amazing Race or I could cry right now thank you very much if they didn't All Stars which teams from this season would you include Tom I can guess I kind of wish I brought it up a little bit later so I had more time to think but well you know Beck if they could clone Beck and Kate like several times that would be great otherwise if I if I couldn't choose them I think Harry and Teddy should come back and I think either Darren and Tristan or George and Pam for that rivalry I'm with them and then

1:07:03 You know if H as another team I feel like you don't need to see emmer and Haley again I feel like they can't they can't bring anything different yeah but also like they're just happy and that's all they really are like I don't need to see that twice I didn't really need to see it once to be honest but allly and Angie loved the dirty jokes and they were like the most the team that surprised me the most but I also don't think like from maybe if you know an Ali can bring Cody next time instead no actually no I love Angie oh if they could have a three thre person team that'd be great now probably Harry and Teddy is my number one and then number two would be Darren Tristan and George opam and then number three oh another one a wizard what wow yeah and those balloons are for you Ellen and number three is also for you J and Court just so you know you can see your favorite person once again as a final note to end on can you imagine how much winging y would have done at cord during the dancing thing yeah so yeah trying to make Happ again what are you going to do now what did I do yeah you did this I was doing this anyway you guys

1:08:23 Keep going I'll just do don't mind me yeah it comes to the end of what turned out to be a pretty great season I don't know where does the season rank Tom amongst the other Australian Amazing Race Seasons I might need Jonathan on hand to type this name out cuz I can't remember the names of the people but there was a season there were these two buff male nurses in a season I can't remember what their names I think FEI was one of them and they were like they had every I mean their nurses or even doctors I don't know they were nurses or doctors so that they were intelligent they were like fit and they were really bad at Challengers to there was such like a an average team and there was this there was this episode where yeah family I knew it was Nick dang it yeah I remember there was there was a challenge where like they were had to race with camels and like s FEI and Nick running along with the camels I don't know there was like an inside joke of my family that made that like the funniest moment in Australian Survivor history but I really like

1:09:44 That season and yeah Tom and Tyler you know great characters I one thing I learned about the Amazing Race is a lot of Amazing Race Australia fans really hold on to Tom and Tyler like I remember being really upset at the time but I forgot about it but clearly everyone else has not forgotten about Tom and Tyler being you know ripped off at the very end so yeah but I thought that season was really good but this is definitely up there it just the fact that it was like only 12 episodes really was refreshing I wish Australian Survivor took out even two episodes that would make Australian Survivor way better in my opinion so yeah good on channel 10 for doing that I think they did it out of necessity they'll definitely try and add more episodes in the future if they can because money one come on no money one sadly I haven't learned that spell yet in my Wizarding class I noticed that when you when you talk about more episodes I do wonder if obviously the celebrity version of it makes a difference to how many episodes they're going to run I think like I think it's a harder sale to get celebrities on the show when you go hey you're going to be racing around the world for like 6 weeks instead of three or you know you know what I mean like I think it's an easier sell for the shorter

1:11:04 Version and I do think that combination of having the shorter season it felt a little bit tighter a little bit more compact helped with the you know they had good tasks good locations one thing that I was down on the season is what Jonathan mentioned before is that it was all in a very small part of the world as far as the Amazing Race goes we saw some great locations we saw some really good challenges but it was only in a m a handful of countries from India to Malaysia isn't like a worldwide Race Around the Globe you know what I mean like so I felt it was a little bit constricted in that regard and felt similar from week to week but what they were able to get out of that I really felt they're maximized and I appreciated the season a lot what did you think of it be I loved it I had a lot of fun I do think sometimes having as Australian reality television does have the tendency to go on and on a little bit you know and sometimes that's really great but you know when you're having three maybe 4 hour long episodes a week every week for 20 something weeks it's a lot of content and it can feel it can feel like it drags so I think having you know two episodes our long 12

1:12:24 Weeks they kept it really tight fast Punchy and perhaps they almost split this the celebrities in two going okay we'll offer them just the three weeks but we'll do two seasons of it perhaps that was kind of the Network's approach to getting making it work and so that's why the very next season is a celebrity season yeah so I think it was just really fast and it made it really enjoyable again I think the more versions of celebrity edition they do I think the term celebrity gets harder and harder to apply because even this season like again like Angie and allly I didn't know who the hell allly was before like I'd heard of Cody I didn't know who his sister was like you know like it really like Pete I mean I love Pete I know Pete but he hasn't done anything in about 10 years I'd say like you know what I mean like the more seasons they do the celebrities that they're GNA have to get to after multiple people say no and they keep going down the list like when the list for season one of it or the first version of it included Harry and like Alli

1:13:44 Simpson like celebrity is going to be a hard Monica going forward I think but yeah that it does bring us to the end of our first season of The Amazing Race Australia that we've done together great season great show but really great podcast Tom V thank you so much for joining me and giving me all your insights and wonderful funny on liners and all that sort of thing what have you got for me I just want to celebrate this amazing this amazing moment you get balloons you get you will get fireworks this is an amazing this was a lot of fun a lot of fun with you guys so thank you very much and thank you chat for you know all the weekly customers for rocking up you know it's been lots of fun talking about this with you guys the chat always makes it so much better obviously Ellen contributing so much to the Yana hate I love it and Jon our statistician as always leai everyone who's joined us the whole season through thank you so much we really do appreciate it was a lot of fun I'm pretty sure we'll do it again next season so you know until then I'm Kahuna this is V with Tom nullified take for The Amazing

1:15:04 Race Australia there it [Laughter] is so yeah thanks everyone we're going to get going now but yeah give us some fireworks give us some balloons whatever you got for us Tom balloons fireworks come on come on my fireworks don't fail me now thank you so much thank you appreciate it what will you do with the Sundays I know I know there might be other shows starting we'll figure something out probably will be congratulate Ali and Emma for doing more roadblocks than Darren and Tristan oh there you go yeah Emma did five you said this season right bye guys bye it's been fun how's Jonathan thank you so much everyone Amazing Racist show is done but we'll be back with more shows I'm sure coming up we've still got the challenge on the nullify take we've got the Survivor both us and UK with Tom and V we've got squid games coming up at the at the end of this month as well reality show there's always a lot going on in the nullified te make sure you subscribe and we'll catch you soon bye