The Challenge All Stars 5: Fantasy Draft & Cast Assessment
Podcast episode · 18 Jan 2025 · 1 hr 55 min
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0:01 [Music] [Music] welcome back to the nullify Tech Channel on YouTube where I'm joined by some friends it's been a while since I've spoken to both Shantel from reality realness and Drew from the angel cake vits channel here on YouTube but for those that are no newcomer to this channel you would know that there has been a battle between us for ages for fantasy draft pick dominance and Chantel all the pressure on you coming into this one you did say to us in our DMS earlier when we spoke about planning this thing and putting it together that you kind of feel like you've gone backwards so there's some pressure on you coming into this draft how are you feeling coming into the draft I am taking a completely new strategy on how I'm going to be drafting oh
1:32 If you guys can hear me I am not hearing Chantel so I'm not sure if it's just a my end Drew can you hear Chantel no I can't hear her either no okay now it wasn't letting me unmute weird okay oh and now mic's not on okay maybe it weird something weird happened okay not a good sign for you quiet me it's is silencing me I don't want my thoughts and feelings to be heard here but what I was saying is that what I've been doing is not working and they say that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results so I am doing something completely different to expect a different result and I'll let you know what that is that I'm doing as we get off the draft I feel like Drew and I already got like a little taste of that you're muting yourself right off the bat to try and throw Drew and myself off she's pretending Drew like she doesn't know what she's doing but is this all the cunning of a mad scientist coming into this draft that has got us figured out because we know Chantel wants to get a win and Drew you're someone that I still think leads overall with most draft wins I think I have narrowed the Gap in recent seasons in fact I'm coming into this specific one as the reigning all star champion but do you still have do you have the numbers there Drew it' be interesting to know if you've got the numbers but I feel like
2:53 The Press numbers on me at the moment but I do know that you won all star 4 which in the allstar realm I think Chantel won all star one I won two and three and then you won four so it's one one2 at the moment but I do know that you are getting close if not surpassed at this point I don't know surprised I'd be surprised if it surpassed you because you had like the madest run for a while there before any of us won anything but I'm so looking forward to this specific draft I mean we've been we haven't spoken about the challenge in a long time and that's due to scheduling and things like that so I don't know where both you are sitting at the moment when it comes to your challenge hype I mean I've been low on the last two finals that we saw because of production interference I'm not a big fan of that but Chantel how are you feeling coming into this challenge allars 5 rival season are you hopeful well if any indication is the fact that I have not yet watched the reunion part one of the challenge regular main show and I'm here today to talk about this season I would say that shows that my interest for this is way more than that of the main show so I love the idea of Rivals I'm really
4:13 Hoping that in going to MTV it's not going to water it down because what I love about it being on Paramount plus is that people are a little more candid a little bit more themselves you know we got some volatile characters are we going to be able to see them at their maximum their fullest so I am hopeful and I'm just excited just to see some people play that we haven't seen in a while and they're likely going to get into confronts and so I like some drama and we haven't had that much drama in recent years and so I'm looking forward to some new drama onene Drew this is an interesting season coming into this I think the fans are divided I've I actually did watch your introduction into the season so I know your thoughts coming into this one coming slightly prepared I wanted to have an idea of what you were King of the cast but you're a politician my man you don't give anything away you were very neutral I feel like on your cast assessments so I don't know if I necessarily learned anything but one thing I did see there was you discussing the point that there's so many newcomers playing this season of All Stars when allar was supposed to be for ogs it was supposed to be for the original how are you feeling as an OG fan coming into this season I know we're hyped for the for the Rivals theme that fans have wanted to see for a while but what's your thoughts coming into the season are you hyped I'm get I'm growing I'm growing in hype
5:33 Even though my shirt says I got to Hype I'm growing in hype because it is one of those things where it there's so many weird things I don't think the newcomers are like that big of a shock because of how like all stars is such a vague term it's a buzzword to get audience members to watch it's vague enough to where you can put anybody on there and it can be whatever and I think that this iteration of all stars is what the MTV team wanted all along like they went with Mark's original thing and then they were like slowly creeping in people you got Jordan coming in and all star three you got Wes coming in and then all of a sudden it's like oh yeah by the way fessel and it's like what no like Big T and Cory L what are we doing here but that's what they wanted all along they wanted to bridge it over and then it gave and then so having the newcomers in and then it also being on MTV is just a it's just a little alarm belt going off in my head and then on top of that you have what happened in Allstar 4 final with the Stars everybody handing out stars then you have the karma points and it's like I don't want this thing to become a tradition I don't want to see that come like Propel into the future and everything so I don't know there's little alarm Bells but after seeing the trailer I kind of got a little bit more hype so I'm kind of leaning in there but I've been
6:53 Goofed on trailers before where they put something in and it's like I can't wa tell I see that scene in there then the scene never makes it into the challenge and I'm like where the heck was that scene so yeah classic gotcha they do that all the time to create a hook for people to tune into the season but you know Drew I'm with you on that I yeah I don't know what to expect from the season I think it's best we go into the draft we leave our thoughts until we actually start talking about the cast in depth and I'm going to go back to you Drew's you're the one that's got the spreadsheet you're the one that sort of manages the order and all those kind of things and in fact I did want to say hello to a bunch of people we've got Chris Demetria Sue Willie Julia C who else do we have here Sue Becka I don't know if I said hello Georgette is in the live as well Danica welcome back to the live Ricky Dreadful Ruby Darren Hawkins a lot of faithful viewers of all of our channels here to watch us do battle once more thank you for jumping on everyone Chris did say earlier here as well no spoilers for All Star 5 spoilers will be deleted and you will be banned from the chat so please keep it clean and Chris will be looking out for that Chris thank you so much you will also notice if you're watching this at a later stage I turned the comment section off for this for afterwards because people tend to
8:13 Come back to these drafts in the future and then they comment spoilers when we don't have moderators in the comment section and I don't want to be spoiled on this season it's just too juicy of a cast for me to get spoiled halfway into the season but Drew let's get into the order if you can let us know what's happening I think a bunch of people in the live chat also wants to know who won season 40 so if you can let them know who won season 40 maybe first and then we'll go into what order is look like in this draft yeah I could definitely talk about who won season 40 I okay so it's kind of weird because I can't find our Trio draft board realistically I don't know oh just the three of us you mean not wait we did I think we did one I think we only did one draft with Kahuna included for season 40 okay are we talking about did we do two of these though did we do one this the three of us and then another one or was that something else not for season 40 All Stars we did yeah for All Stars we did okay I got confused there yes so challenge 40 coming in third place I'll just get to the results coming in third place it was team Chantel who got 503 total points her last standing player was Cara Maria who got eliminated on the final elimination
9:34 Against Tori so sorry Chantel I but you did get fourth place speaking of Tori Chris Tori was your final player left in the game heading into the final she was looking good until the final she was looking great until the final and then she didn't even Place in the final besides fourth place frustrating there but she was able to get you 229 points underway to getting 500 84 points nearly half your points came from Tori Cory was your second highest player with 130 so good job getting Cory there it came down to me and Kahuna who had the most players left in the game Kahuna had three players in the finals I had four players heading into the final and Kahuna got second place with 968 points and I got first place with 1,115 points thank you Jordan thank you Michelle also Al shout out to the karma points for helping Rachel get the like dig it in and stick the knife in and twist it that Drew in points what did I say about Karma points I love them so much anyway but just throwing that I will say that helps a little bit because in reality we're going
10:54 Off of the all stars 4 results and I came in dead last I came in third place and I was the one that was blanked out from anybody making the final I had flora and I think one other person and they all got purged right before the final so I came in dead last Chantel got second place and Chris got first place and you are the reigning champ of All Stars for who would have believed that Chantel when we started doing all star drafts back in season one when I knew nothing about the OG players but that's the thing is they start bringing in the Young Guns and then you like draft them up and I'm like and it's just like I'm like it's not authentic to All Stars and I'm trying to hold on authenticity and you're like he's 30 I'm like h fine and so yeah and can I just say while we were going through all those incredible intros I do have the numbers for where we sit with all of our drafts and everything Chantel wow you are sitting at two wins winning allst Stars One and season 37 Chris you are at five wins and I too am at five wins so we are actually tied so we've done 12 of these rafts by the way holy heck 12 holy heck this is our 12 this is our 13th Lucky 13 and Chris and I are going ins
12:14 Whoa this is incredible that's insane well all the pressure like I said on Chantel coming into this draft session T it's on you let's see what happens here Drew so with me winning the last one Chantel getting second place and then yourself getting in dead last we have agreed to the order coming into this draft which will have you pick in the first round chel will pick in the second round I will pick dead last because I am coming in with a bit of a handicap on this one then I will have the fourth pick Chantel will have the fifth and Drew will have the sixth pick so it's going to be like a classic snake ladder we're also going to try something different on how we display the draft this time around so that it's a little bit easier for everybody to follow along so let me just have a look at this we'll put it something like that getting used to the new software so okay so let's go so we've got the draft up there for everybody to see and Drew is going to be the man behind the steering wheel F in the background who will put all of these teams into the draft as we continue down the draft and I am excited about the draft Drew you've got the mic I don't know if anybody's got any final words before we start the draft off officially Chantel any fighting words before we start this I
13:34 Don't like that I feel ganged up on the fact that you two have I trading up wins five wins a piece dah and I feel that it's time for me to be Like a Phoenix rising from the ashes and just at least get a win here on Allstar 5 so I got a lot of heart and a lot of faith coming into this draft Yeah well who knows maybe we should add like Karma points for the chat in the future and that could really mess up our draft results in the aend actually don't hate that but I also don't want it maybe the I'd pull a Rachel and be like hey a win's a win right yeah get the three rings on the finger be like I've got the would be the third win as well similar to Rachel somebody who doesn't have like anybody going into the final some finds themselves in like first place or tied with first place that would be wild Chris says you've got the Chantel G power okay so Drew you are up tell us who are you picking okay I feel a little bit nervous now about this but I do want to show off my I got to Hype shirt if you know you know and I'll let everybody else know if they don't
14:54 Know where it's from but so coming into this draft I'm thinking that this is like wide open sure there's some players that are a little bit more athletic than some people there are some people that maybe could work better together but I came into this draft pretty open-minded you know I don't think a lot of statw work is going to be the right way to go about this I feel like this is a draft more than anything because not to not to bash on this cast but I feel like the cast is more centered towards drama and that's why they put all these people together and why it's a rival season and I feel like that's where you have to bank your thing I've already tried to get my drafts going through who could win and all this other stuff and it's blown up in my face where I have one player left no players left or the people that I think is going to win don't win and they don't do as much as I would like them to do so I went a whole different route I did my own rankings I also had the help of the bakery ra raiding all of these players and I put them into I averaged it out with my close Confidant Kristen as well so we have gotten a list of players and I think I'm gonna go with
16:14 A pair that is fa highly rated on the bakery side I think that they can get they're going to get a ton of confessionals they're going to get some argument points they can argue with each other they can start arguing with other people I feel like they are going to be safe the safest route to go for and so in my opinion I am going to pick the pair that I have nicknamed shayon but really it is Devon and Shane I will pick them first banking in professional points they can still they both are good competitors where they could win a daily challenge here or there I feel like they could win an elimination here or there but overall I'm going to bank in professional points narration and drama points they could argue with each other and then pick fights with everybody else so that's who I'm going for with my first pick all right put him in there for Drew team Drew getting the first team here Devon and Shane first draft pick bold move Chantel what's your thoughts on that pick I mean I do love that pick I love that you know we've been anticipating dvon coming back onto the scene she's probably not going to be super excited that it's a rival season but we have seen her be able to work with some pretty volatile characters that being bare and
17:35 Being decently successful at that and so I think because Shane is pretty strong and I feel like they're going to be a little bit older they might have gotten over something things they might have a couple little Spats in the beginning but I think they'll be able to work together I think they're both pretty good at confessionals so lots of confessional points they're going to argue and they might even argue with other people so I just think that yeah it's going to be a very solid Point getter for sure I don't know how they're going to necessarily gel and work together but I could see them figuring it out I feel like they would both be trying hard to figure it out and then you know leave all their drama when they get to the Daily or leave all their drama when they get to an elimination and I think they might be able to figure out how to work together so I think it's a pretty strong pick for me personally I was going to be a lot lower on Devon and sha Shane until I actually watched your video Drew doing the cast assessment where you reminded me on that cast assessment that Devon actually is a beast at eliminations and specifically in the season where she was I think it was paired up with bear where she kept going and one after the other and she was eliminating people and sending them home Devon actually could be potentially a little bit of an underdog coming into this season maybe a bit of a sleeper team like you said on your
18:55 Cast assessment so I knew you were going to place them high based on the work that you did there but I didn't know that you were going to pick them number one in this case but they definitely can get to a final I don't know if they can win a final but if they go deep into the season there's going to be drama points they're like Devon is the queen at confessional so I think if you're thinking about all the points that are at stake here and maybe this is a good time for you drew to also let us know how the point system is going to work just for people who haven't sort of been around for a while and maybe have never seen one of these drafts it's not just outright winning the season but there's a lot of extra points that you get for drama so if you maybe want to do a quick rundown on that yeah so normally how it goes we get one point per confessional so it's a PPC points per confessional so if you have somebody who is a Storyteller or is somebody who is Forefront the face of this the season then you're going to get confessionals you're going to get some points daily wins are five points elimination wins are three points if there's some kissing and making out which I feel is going to be very minimal on this season especially being on MTV but if so happen two points per kiss and make out argument drama is two points per so it's always going to be beneficial to get somebody who is a little bit more bombastic a little bit more out there disqualifications if it says on the on the screen disqualification DQ or
20:15 Anything like that or they quit it's minus two points if your players make it to the finals you get plus 10 and then for a win you get 50 big bonus points and then you get some extra plus 15 points for most confessionals most daily wins zero elimination scen and then winning a phase in the final you get plus 15 for your teams as well yeah I do want to say this real quick about Shane and Devon I think it is a risky pick because neither of them have made a final in their challenge career but this is the tricky part about this cast is that I had a different team at number one Kristen had a different team at her number one and then the bakery had a different team in their number one so it was like the top five was somewhat similar players but they were all jumbled up so I feel like if you're going for somebody I might as well play it safe with the first pick and I just feel like Devon and Shane are I think well equipped well strategized and could get a lot of points so I'd rather take that situation going into the game perfect
21:36 Oh Chris are you talking I guess I'm talking Chris we do not hear you at this moment if we are supposed to just so you know all right yeah I was just saying just a reminder for everybody who's picked first so Shane and Devon out first but Chantel you're next with the second pick here so over to you so I don't have a bakery to be Consulting with so because I'm an aquarius an aquarius likes Innovation they like technology they like the internet I decide to plug in stats and information into chat GPT to be my personal Bakery here oh and so chat has given me an order that they suspect will be who will get the most points and win down to potentially the least points and lose so I looked at the order that chat GPT gave to me and I am okay with standing by standing with chat GPT standing with AI to see whether or not this will help me be able to get this
22:56 Win now I'm not saying that I just left it up I looked at the list I was like you know what this list is okay I can go for this list and so we'll see I'll let you guys know as how chat GPT thinks that the order is gonna be so starting off first still getting what is chat gpt's number one draft pick out of these 13 Pairs and chat went with fessel and Amber as their first pick now I'm not the biggest fan of fessie but he is like 6'4 6'5 we know he's the D1 athlete he doesn't necessarily get along with Amber but she is a winner and fess's been to was it two or three finals he is going to Def do well likely in the daes I think that they'll be able to work well enough together he's you know smart with like math stuff and you know brain games and Amber is really great at endurance I just think that they might be able to gel and work together because they both want the win they have to work together so what chat GPT says about them why I should choose them in the number one position it says Amber's Championship experience and fess's dominance and dailies and eliminations make them consistent top performers likely to earn points from daily wins
24:16 Eliminations and it says and confessionals I'm not sure about confessionals because but maybe I wouldn't say that they're the confessional king and queen over here but that's what chat GPT says and I'm G to stand by chat GPT with this number one pick here I do think that they have a pretty good potential of doing well and I think people might be scared of them as an entity sometimes that works in the favor of some of these power players that nobody wants to go down against them in elimination so if the format serves them they might be able to evade elimination and I think that if they get to the end they would be the dominant top dogs to be winning a final so I stand with chat GPT what a strategy all is revealed here by Chantel having her own Bakery sort of coming into this one and I'm not going to lie Shel I did something very similar but I actually consulted grock for it so it's grock versus J P this today so it's GNA be interesting to see who's gonna win out in the end is it going to be Elon musk's Gro or is it going to be Chad gbt but I'm really worried hum or human beings as a collective and a community I will say humans can do it too isn't Chachi BT
25:36 Actually or and I guess Gro having all human data that they're considering in this like you know like so it's all humans I will say one thing I will say one thing though even though I consulted grock I thought grock was a bit cooked in the head so I'm not going to fully go down the line of what who it who it chose it even had like people from pre rival seasons ranked in it wasn't even like accurate to this specific I gave specific parameters so I okay I definitely curated it to here so basically watchel is saying it's a human erris you got to get with the game you don't know how to use AI yet but no listen I like f and Amber is an early pick I did have them in my top three teams coming into this season as well I do think that if they can find a way to work together and I think the one thing we know about these big brother players is that they're strategic people don't always like that but if they're paired together I don't think there's going to be that much drama between the two of them plus Amber's not going to have to fight for the approval of fessy with any of the other Big Brother players this season like there's no other Big Brother players coming in so she's not going to feel like the ugly stepchild which she would never be ugly but you know she's not going to feel like she fits into that spot so I just think the drama is not going to be there so it's going to be interesting to see
26:56 How they work with the likes of like a Nani for instance you know Nani obviously being with Casey and then you've got fessie being close friends with Casey then you also have the likes of Devon coming into the season that is a part of the vacation Alliance like there is still the potential here for a very strong main season Alliance to come into this Allstar season so I do think that they have got some protection in numbers coming into the season and then FY if you like him or hate him you know I'm pretty neutral I think that the more fans talk about him the more fans are annoyed by fessie the bigger the sort of carrot is out there for production to continue to bring him back because he's still in people's mouths you know so I don't hate it I think it's going to be an interesting season they're obviously younger and coming into an All-Star season where they're going to go up against some oldies that could play into it but the one thing we don't know about Amber is how fit is she at the moment has she been keeping up since she's had the baby because not just the fact that she's had a baby but now her priorities has changed right a lot about her life has been about this family that she's starting has she stayed fit has she stayed in the scene so she can come back and actually perform in the season that's all to be unknown and then we know that fessie can crack Under Pressure like he had his best friend Casey running a final with him and he burned her out in a
28:16 Final so how's that going to play out but I do think if we're looking I'm not surprised Chad gbt went that way statistically they're a very strong team coming into this season Drew thoughts I think it's going to be a really solid pick at the End of the Day Bakery had them ranked in their top three at number three I will say that with fessel and Amber the only thing I would say is that you're banking on them winning because I don't necessarily know how much drama points or like if they can win and I feel like they could win every single elimination I could see them winning a ton of daily challenges you're just banking on them to win and I think they have the best opportunity if they make that final I think that they could win that final you know so I think that's overall like as a competitive group I agree I just worry and I've always put in so much hype into like oh you got to pick the best compet the best of the best when it comes to the competition and it's hit me in the face a couple of times I just don't know if there's going to be some hookups but hey you never know and I will say Chris I could tell you for a fact with some of the stuff that Chanty puts up on his Instagram and Twitter stuff and then she's gotten some promotions out there for her content specifically and she's keeping
29:37 It she's keeping ited she's keeping up blocked out that's good and Chris trying to like changed my words here saying that I'm doubting mothers that's not what I'm saying I'm just saying she's got other responsibilities like you may not be doing that okay so Chris coming for me it's getting hot real early in the draft picks here so we have got the first two teams selected and the next one is going to be up to me to select who is going to go as my first round pick and then I also have the fourth round pick two in a row here and the first team I'm going to go to now if you ask me a couple of seasons ago when turbo returned if I would pick him first I would have said no but I going to pick turbo and 9 first in the first round the reason for it being is that turbos featured all over the promos coming into the season with a hat and he's just featured so prominently and I'm seeing him in the trailer he's looking good Nani and turbo played together in War of the Worlds they were a very strong team so I'm surprised that no one has picked him prior and both Nani and turbo prior to this and turbo is a bit of an uncontrollable unit but I do feel like when they were together Nani kind of controlled them a little bit and kept them in his cage a little bit and coming into the season hopefully Turbo's learned hopefully he's learned that he can't fight everyone to get to the
30:57 End and win the game on his own he has to work with alliances Nani does have people in this house like we just said she probably can work with fessi and Amber she probably can work with Dev and Leroy I think she's one of the most connected people in the house so with Turbo's ability to win finals and being an absolute super athlete and Nan social game I feel like that's the perfect balance coming into a season like this I also think that they'll get plenty of confessionals there's going to be a lot of drama between turbo and 90 and what happened in the last season that they played together so I just feel very solid about this pick and Drew I kind of agree with you that you know when you did your cast assessment you said that this season The Producers is giving it to Nani they're like here's your win on a silver platter if she can't win the season I will go as far I'll double down on what you said she's never winning any Challenge season in the future thoughts on that one Drew oh man it sounds so bad but I have said it a couple of times I mean she's gotten so many opportunities and this is it like this is a golden platter so people were wondering who I had put as my number one team for a while it was Nani and turbo I had up there I feel like they can win they're the only real pair at this moment that yes has had like rough patches but they have worked together they were paired up with each other so they know they you know they can
32:17 Work together and they did incredibly well on season 33 when paired up together so I feel like Nani is going to be a driving force I don't know how many confessionals turbo is gonna get but I think Nan is gonna be a driving force she is somebody that has been on a lot of challenge Seasons I think she's going to be a major player so I feel like she could get a lot of confessionals Turbo's gonna get into it with everybody you know Nani and fessel or anybody realistically Frank's in here and I just feel like this is a team that I could see winning dailies winning eliminations confessionals arguments the whole the whole deal you know the only thing that I think was worry is a little bit worrisome is what if the same thing happens in season 38 happens here where Turbo gets thrown in and then everybody's helping the other team in a memory game or something like that because yeah Nani has some friends like fessel and Ana but that's not like the normal grouping that she normally like has she doesn't have a huge deep connection web connection of everybody in here but you never know what's going to happen so I think that this is a solid pick it's definitely in the top three it was number two for the bakery it was number one for me and I think it's a really solid
33:37 Pick thoughts on the piic Shel when they were number one for me like when I was thinking about like how I'd want to potentially choose and I was really toying in my head when I had you know I had them as an option with my pick but I just wanted to stick with chat just to see if that strategy will work for me so I definitely thought that they are a great pick I do agree that the producers are giving naie her second best like time to be able to win this like she should have won that with bananas but they really just mess it up with those damn cinder blockes block blocks because if they had done that you know like more like how Derek did it in 40 they would have likely have won the season so I do think this is definitely not a season to lose she has the perfect partner who she already kind of knows and knows how to work with to potentially win this season against people that are not necessarily all going to be as super physically competitive for them so I do think that it's strong my only worry is that turbo he always doesn't care to go down and prove himself he's always like well whatever I'll just go I'll fight them I'll go down I'll they he doesn't he doesn't play a smart game in that way by avoiding some conflict to
34:57 To avoid being put down in a situation where you could go home and so I do worry that his interactions with the other players might get them s down into something that they're not good at and then go home so they're a little bit of a volatile pairing but I think that they could be a very successful pairing it really depends on if they end up working well together and how many people he rubs the wrong way so scary pick but a good scary pick they were my when draft personally I'm really happy that turbo is still in the conversation to get these call backs and to play The Challenge at least I wasn't sure where he left off in the previous season when he kind of burned out but I also have the fourth pick coming into this season and I've half listened to you guys but I've also half stressed about the fact that I need to do the next pick and in my mind I'm going back and for like what's grock saying I know what I know I know what I want to do I know the chat's absolutely burn me for doing this I'm going to say that I'm leaning this way just because you know I'm thinking of the two male teams there's two male teams currently in this cast and predominantly when you get Seasons like this if it's a final where there's a lot of running they've got to go uphill and things like that physiologically it kind of Suits
36:17 Them we don't have a Jenny West this season that can Beast any of the men so I feel like it's the fact that there's still these two teams up for grabs is making me Le that way but I have serious reservations about both those teams which is probably why both of you have not gone in that direction I promised myself after picking Leroy in season 40 I wouldn't pick him again so I think I'm leaning that way because Leroy has been absolutely pitiful in his last couple of Seasons coming back and playing the game and I don't know how he is going to perform this season even though he's got Devon there who's a very solid game player I don't know if I if I rate that much either and I'm not a fan of Adam don't like the guy I think he's very Petty but could get a lot of drama points this season points pett points and then Steve is an absolute animal and he had such a good showing in All Stars four and I didn't pick Steve That season it was I think in the one that we did with Kahuna picked him and I remember him punishing us with that pick because Steve just outperformed everybody kept sending people home in the eliminations and then ended up doing well toward Ward the end of the season as well so I'm leaning this way I'm going to go with Adam and Steve because of that I think I'm going to take Adam and Steve in this next spot because like I
37:37 Said two male teams up for grabs I need to get one of them Deon and Leroy is also probably going to be a part of that Alliance of fessy Amber and NY I already have NY and turbo I don't want to hedge all my beds on that Alliance in case it falls over so yeah I feel like Adam and Steve is going to be my next pick now if you ask me coming into this I thought maybe one of you would have picked one of these two teams already but thoughts on that pick Chantel Adam and Steve is going to be my second pick round pick number four it's definitely a good idea to get the two like the male on male teams one of them at least just for the fact that we don't know what challenges they're going to have but in the past they haven't really cared on like you know if one gender is going to be better at something than others like the fairness is not always in play with how they construct some of these challenges so I do think that it will be useful to have two men on one team at some point in the game and so I definitely think it's a it's a good I feel better you saying that so it's not just the guy backing another guy team here on the podcast it's just kind of a fact you know it's just human body physiological you know factors so I do think that you know Adam was starting to get some good confessionals he was getting a little spicy with some people and so maybe he's going to have
38:57 You know maybe he'll cause a little more friction with some other people maybe him and Steve might kind of go at it a little bit and yeah we were impressed by Steve and so I could see both of them being like the older guys having something to prove on Allstars this is their platform the platform that was built for them I could see them wanting to do very well but I could also see people like the newer class people not knowing who they are never seeing their season and just feel like there's someone that they could just throw into elimination depending on the structure so yeah we do have that side of things but I think I don't think that they're going to do the worst in any daily if and fall into the last place position and if last place goes in like I don't think that they're going to be in that situation but if there's some power going on and people are going to be throwing people into elimination I think that they would be a team that a lot of people might be like I don't really know them so toss them in there so you might be have to combat Drew thoughts on this pick here in the fourth round or fourth spot I should say all right so I want to just say a few things I don't know about all your fingle fangled physiological stuff or whatever but I just remember back in season 40 when all the women were
40:17 Out swimming all the men and they needed life preservers and the women were able to outdo the which one of these women Drew tell me which one of these D which one of the women in this season is going to outperform like I don't think there's any of them at the level of the final four that we had in season 40 I think the final four women were stacked on season 40 so we do are any of the women from season 40 on this season no so like it's facing CT and everybody in season 36 run so I will I will not stand for this because I will say listen to that this is an Abomination no I'm just kidding but I do think that it is weird that there's like two menmen teams but there's something inside me there's a little voice in the back of my head saying this is a red herring you know I feel like everybody's going to lean that way saying like these two guys teams are going to be like stacked and moveed forward and everything and I just don't know you know I don't necessarily subscribe that I feel like Adam's going to get all these kinds of professionals and everything I feel like his was inflated due to Avery being there and then like oo they're going to get together after the season oo and it's like I don't care you
41:38 Know go hang out with each other but I feel like I'm a little cooled down on their confessionals I think the same way I feel about Amber and fessel they are going to be strong physically you're just going to be banking on them winning which they can win they can win eliminations they can win daily challenges but it's banking on the men or them winning and if they can make it to the final that'd be great I think their closest allies are Katie and Veronica because both have done like Seasons with both of them so it could work out I just don't know how much Katie right now are Stephen Katy good I don't know you know I'm not I'm not I'm not all up in that business on social media away from all that I just don't know I don't know Kristen had am Adam and Steve kind of high I think the bakery had them in the top four I had them in my top five so I think it's solid but I just question I just felt like they I felt a little trepidation not like I did with like Deon and then Nani and turbo where it's like I feel like there's points on the table and I'd rather grab those instead of like going for an Emmanuel you know in season 39 or go for a Corey in USA to
42:58 Where it's like hey he they should do well and then they do well but then it's like okay on the way there it wasn't as thrilling or as many points as I had hoped that's all I'm I wish I wish I started with you on the assessment and then went to Chantel she had better words for me on that one you're making me feel terrible with this pick because definitely from an alliance standpoint I think they have some work to do I'll just once again say Steve is a beast when it comes to being an elimination so I still feel confident that he could pull it out if he did go down there I just don't know about Adam's the question mark there a lot of this rides on Steve for me okay Chantel we're going to go over to you for your second overall pick this is the standing so far with those four teams being taken off the board what direction did the stat GPT chat tell you to go into okay so let's see if you guys can figure it out while why while blank is a confessional machine and strong strategists and blanks physicality and experience make them contenders in dailies and finals their social connections should keep them safe early I think it's going to be a Nissan Ashley no I'm gonna not listen to what Drew has to say I think he is keeping
44:18 Me away from the other mail team because he wanted them for them himself and I am taking Devin and Leroy off the table now I know that Leroy has not done as well as we had hoped he would do he did get to the final though in All Stars 4 it wasn't his performance in general wasn't that great and then obviously he didn't do well at all on 40 but he's got to be coming in being like okay I've embarrassed myself kind of you know a couple times now I need to get a win he's still doing it for his family has two kids there at home and Devin has just such a big ego that I just can't see him allowing Leroy to drag him down and so he Deon has the connections of all the new people we know that Leroy and Nani are super tight and so he's gonna easily be in that vacation Alliance and M people from the vacation Alliance are quite strong and so I think that he'll they'll be insulated socially and I think that they will might be able to hold their own in this partnership because Devin has what Leroy doesn't have and I think that Devon might be able to coach and give Leroy the confidence that he needs he does well when he has somebody that he's working with in the game he does well when bananas is in the game kind of
45:38 Giving him some guidance as to what to do and how to play or when he was when cam was in the game and he was giving him guidance when he was working with Casey and all that stuff so I think that Devin might be the second coming of a LeRoy Whisperer and it is going to help them do well in this game and finally get Leroy at least to a final since his you know return back onto the challenge so I'm taking the other two boys off the board all right will is saying that Chad GPT is giving Shanel bad choices do you agree Dre I'll be again I was not saying that so I could somehow take them off away from everybody I do think that this is a red herring kind of like what Chris said I am not I have not been impressed with Leroy stumbling forward on Allstars 4 to make the final but somehow get seventh place and he looked terrible doing it and then Devon looked apathetic on season 40 I just I hope for Leroy's sake that he can he can get it together you know I think with Devin they have a chance you know like what talking about with Nani and turbo it's the
46:58 Same thing with Devin and Leroy this is on a silver platter to get at least to the final you know but I just I couldn't I couldn't put them high enough in my ranks after what we've recently seen from them Leroy from the past two seasons Devon from last season I had Bakery had them sixth place and I had them not too much higher I had them pretty much very much in the middle at sixth place so I mean not a bad pick at five if we're going with the rankings it's not a bad pick but it's one of those things where it feels like they should do well it just it hasn't been on their side recently and I think that's the wor you think that you know if what if you're all GNA down Rock Bottom you have to rise up right you have to start climbing up that mountain you can't just keep on going worse and worse and falling further down and down and down tell that to Danny and Tyree you know I'll I'll back I'll back chel up slightly on this one I had them at fifth on my ranking so I feel like you picked them exactly probably where I would have been looking at them I hear you on the red herring call Drew but I feel like male team they have to be somewhat in the conversation both of them like Devon has won
48:18 A championship Leroy has been to more finals than most I don't know if he's probably been overtaken by Cory by now but you know there's a lot of experience there and this is not Leroy's first season back we're talking about his third season I believe since returning retirement now thing of the past because Leroy is starting to come back season after season hopefully he's getting back into the swing of things coming into this season and I know that there's a lot of Leroy fans that would like to see him finally get one and I like picking people with a point to proove like surely Leroy's ego is bruised coming into this season after having been shown up for two seasons in a row he's here like a lot of these challenges they do look at the comments they do look at what fan perception is out there and I'm telling you right now L cannot be happy by people saying he's tarnishing his legacy and that he shouldn't have come back he should have stayed retired like if he's taking the risk if he's saying put me in coach I'm going to take a swing at this he better be ready and like I didn't want to pick him like but it was I was contemplating between Adam and Steve and Deon and Leroy like it wasn't like it wasn't a part of the conversation for me so I don't absolutely hate this one but if they do go home early again Chantel I feel like it's over for we're done I will if they go home super early or super embarrassingly like I think I'll have
49:38 To you know stop picking Leroy and rooting for him in that way I mean obviously I'll always want him to do well but I won't be having him on my teams 100% okay let's just have a quick look at where we're sitting with the draft picks we've got five picks so far Devon and Shane we've got Amber and faceall Nani and turbo Adam and Steve and then now Devon and Leroy getting the fifth slot here we're going to go over to Drew for the next two picks he does get number six and seven so really interested to know where Drew and aka the bakery Master where are you like the head cook or the chef what do they call the person who's like the head of the bakery yeah Baker we go yeah I do want to say one thing real quickly in All Star 4 I think I chose ler Roy now in season 40 Chris chose Leroy and then chose Leroy this time to I think we've all said the same thing of like okay Leroy did not do too well I'm moveing I'm not gonna pick him and I thought I'm not gonna pick him for season 40 and then I'm like I don't think I'm gonna pick him for this draft and then Chris is like I picked him for season 40 no way like I got him and if he does bad I'm not g who he's GNA be down at the bottom with like Beth and somebody else the next time we to do a thing it's be like who do I want
50:59 But hopefully they do better hopefully they Leroy versus Tyrie you choose Tyrie maybe no all right so I got the next pick and you know what out of principle I'm gonna do something to cleanse all of our pallets you know the two menmen teams just went off and I think it's time to pick a woman team that's right I'm going to switch up everything and I'm going to go with what I deemed my number four ranking the bakery chose them as their number five ranked team and I'm going to go with the peanut butter braw and the UK sensation the atomic blondes that's right I'm going to go with Melissa and Nicole I think these two women are feisty I think they are physically strong where it's like I think a lot of people are going like underrate how strong they are we all know physically how strong Nicole is but Melissa back in the day Play Dirty against Sylvia in particular and they're gonna argue Melissa can argue with the best of them she has big T in the house with her I feel strongly about these two Nicole has a sensational
52:19 Record if she can stay healthy hopefully she's been drinking her milk hopefully her bones are a little bit stronger and she looks out for a little divots in the grass so she doesn't roll an ankle but I just think that these two women are going to be so strong and maybe they maybe they'll kiss each other you know maybe they'll rekindle things Allah Melissa and Laurel back in All Stars for you know so one can only hope I just have I know not they're not going to be people's favorites for this pick but I just really like Nicole and Melissa going at this spot right now did were was Nicole and Devin partnered up in something when was it that anybody says like I need subtitles and it's like a giant baby season 36 double agents they were paired up with each other and then he's like she's like a boss not a Boston she's a New York she's a Rhode Island or Long Island Long Island that's it Long Island like baby or something like so yeah that was them so yeah she they also have Devon and Leroy in the game looking out for him too so that's thank you for making my case that they are a great pick I really appreciate I just wanted to remember whether or not they were friends or not or like did they hate each other as a partnership thatat okay I mean
53:39 I definitely can understand why you'd pick these two together I think that they are both you know strong athletically you know she has a couple they have a few numbers in the game I don't know if it's the numbers that are going to have the control and the power of the season but they do have people that they could be working with so I think that's good I'm never really rooting for Nicole so like I just don't think I'd put her on my team even though I do like Melissa Nicole just drives me so crazy and she was just so cringe on Allstars 4 as well that I'm like again I thought you would leave her for Chris to pick because Chris loves picking Nicole but yeah I'm like I didn't have them or chat didn't have them next so that's good I didn't have to pick them and I'm happy that I won't because I just don't know I don't have necessarily faith in them doing getting to the end I think they might do okay in the beginning but I just don't see them getting to the end together yeah I yes like I picked Nicole high up in my draft once so I'm like the biggest Nicole St number one yeah but you have to look at who was picked before I got to pick Nicole like you guys took like Laurel and car Maria away from me so I didn't have much choices I feel like going into that season and she did go deep in my defense but I am worried with the that the season is set up both Melissa and Nicole are not the
55:00 Biggest two females so if they do go into a scenario where they've got to go head-to-head with one of these teams in an elimination I could see them physically not being up to up to the task or falling sort of you know just the luck of the draw could potentially get them knocked out of this game I do think that a my basically a my reasons for why I would have picked them I put in team Scrappy probably going to be good for like confessionals and things like that so I definitely understand it from a point scenario and potentially like you said make out points could be something that we could see with these two as well nothing's off the table I'm not sure if either of them are in a relationship at the moment because I definitely don't follow them on their socials but and I also don't know if they would even care to be honest both of them like definitely Nicole wouldn't I feel like care if she's in a relationship or not going into the game she will do whatever she needs to get to the end but yeah I had two teams picked higher than them at this stage in the draft they're my number eight team at this stage but not a bad pick I don't hate this for you drew like I mean this is kind of we're heading towards the middle and obviously when you get to this it's tough pickings the slim pickings when you get into this you're kind of picking points and you're picking you're picking to get a Hail Mary at this stage in my opinion like I don't know if the winner if we're picking the winner this late then we're not good at our jobs is what I'm trying to say drew oh I like I like how you're like
56:20 I like this for you I like this for you if anybody I'm glad you got that you know this is so this is so good for you being so patronizing it was hilarious it's all good it's all as Dre have the last laugh by the way if this team ends up winning he's goingon to be like I'm clipping that I'm putting it on the short I was to know it all from the start yeah I'm gonna put my face on Michael Jordan being like and how do how do you think the dynamic with Corey Le I guess they're going to have to be working with Big T but you know fighting still I feel like Corey is going to get into arguments with Melissa more than Big T but I just feel like there they're such at a numbers disadvantage especially Corey coming into this season that it's he's going to have to he's going to be backed into a corner and he's GNA have to play with Melissa with Big T's numbers and then gain that way that's just how I feel especially in the beginning of the Season all right as Chris was saying we are getting down to some of the lower numbers this is pretty much my final pick because when I get down to the end I'm only going to have two teams and one's pretty much unpickable and I feel like that team's gonna be sitting there waiting for me at the end so I'm gonna go left instead of
57:40 Right so this is finally this is my last pick and I came into this draft really solid in picking one specific team I might be wearing a shirt signifying my admiration for this team but with the teams that are left I don't know if I can pick them because I did the trailer breakdown and I know everybody was ringing the bell red alarms red alarms when I was bringing this up in my tiny tabl talk live stream about I looked at this and this team kept on coming up over and over and over again I saw him in the background of this daily challenge I saw him here I saw him here and people were like you've done this before and it's bitten you in the butt remember Theo when you thought you saw him throughout the entirety of season 40 and he got you 70 points and got half the points of Corey when I that's my biggest regret out of every and even I won that draft and I still regret not picking Corey instead of Theo but I'm gonna go with my gut because at this point in the draft you're kind like you said Chris you're kind of throwing hail Mar's I know that they're in the season at least from a good amount of the that I saw or what I thought I saw I need an HD version and MTV did
59:00 Not put up an HD version I had to get somebody's Twitter feed to do it but I think I saw them in a good amount in the trailer I know that one person on the team is very combative has started plenty of fights that of with Nani that of with CT back in the day and everything also they did an Instagram live where they decided to shoot it in the shower and he didn't need to do that but I got to see their physique and they are very physically strong I'm gonna go with Frank and Sam as my next pick two champions from season 23 haven't been on the show in quite some time I just I just know that Frank can get some drama points and he's also a very strategic Mastermind I think that he's going to be somebody in the confessionals quite a bit and I don't know I don't know I don't know but looking at everybody else I just feel a little bit better leaning into this team as we're getting into a little bit of the unknown with everybody else so with two Champions granted Sam has only done one season but Champion is a champion you know so I'm gonna go with that I feel like they can argue with each
1:00:20 Other Frank I feel is going to pull some arguments in Daily challenges in the house with Sam with everybody else and he's going to want to call the show and I think he's going to be somebody out front in Center for confessionals and arguments so I'm GNA go with Frank and Sam they were seventh on the bakery notes they were fifth for my own personal ranking so yeah just before we comment on that one just two comments that I wanted to bring up here in the live the first one is Sam back in the Life saying that it's his birthday this month happy birthday Sam I hope ah there you go Chantel and yourself s happy birthday to both you and Chantel there we go and also duu calling you out a little bit here Chantel I just wanted you to be able to respond to this I mean I used to think looking it was chat GPT wasn't it was chat GPT I can give you I can show you the chat gbt list I swear chat GPT made me pick him all those other times too I swear okay well moving on from this Shel what's your thoughts on this pick of Frank
1:01:41 And Sam going in this I did see them a lot in the trailer absolutely but I also saw Sam struggling a lot in that trailer like you know on their hands and knees crawling up sand dunes so I mean they it looks like they do a few different dailies or activities so they're going to have at least maybe move into the halfway point of the season with the amount of content that we've seen from them which is great which means that there's going to be opportunity for confessional and other points I just don't know if I see them winning just because Sam just does not look like she is in shape right now and Frank does and I saw him lathering himself up in that thirst trap video I didn't even I don't even know what he said in it but I saw the video for sure and I'm just wondering is he is this a distraction because like he wants to get as much camera time as possible because he's not gonna end up winning I'm always curious when people are like coming out into the open right before their season starts does that mean that like they just don't do well because it's always like the winners are usually very quiet right so I'm just curious as to what's his strategy with how he wants to present himself right now so obviously I love I love frank I'm excited to see him back here
1:03:01 He's very smart big hote head I don't really remember right now how many connections he really has in the game like does he have any friends right now I don't not been a minute yeah like not really so they might have to prove themsel a bit I don't know so I think they I could see them getting to the halfway point I don't see them winning right now I do think that Frank is going to get a lot of confessionals so I think it's I think it's a middle of the road pick and so it's good s yeah I just had a quick look in the background so I'm not going to proclaimed to have known this from this the outset but obviously Frank having played in free agents Leroy was on that season as well so maybe they stayed in touch to a certain degree and then Nani the other person so maybe some connections there I do think that if you pick this team which it's not a bad pick I probably would have leaned towards this direction myself next you're just banking very heavily on Frank and what Frank has done and this is no shade towards Sam because Sam is also a champion Sam's won that season but I remember Frank screaming at Sam a lot that season and Sam sort of struggling a bit so that will be interesting to see how they now work in a in a deal where they're the only team it's not a bigger team like they worked in previously
1:04:22 And if Sam can keep up with Frank but Frank is a beast he played like three seasons from memories prior to this and he made a final he won a final and yeah like I'm excited to see him come back and play the game if nothing else even if Frank goes out mid-season here and only lasts for a couple of rounds hopefully this does mean that we get more Frank in the future CU I know that he's been on the Michael Lewis podcast a few times saying that he would like to come back so this is not new he's been on that podcast saying that he would love to play The Challenge again so he finally got the invite back I don't know why it took this long to get Frank back on a season maybe it is because the producers just haven't stayed in tou maybe yeah it's possible I'm not sure what he does in his yeah I'm not sure what he does in his personal life but I know that he's been open to coming back so maybe with us being a shorter season we get him back I'm excited I'm excited about this pick I don't know how they're going to go but I also can't say that this is a bad pick because I don't know who I would have picked ahead of them going into the next rounds here so I'm very curious because at least the pressure isn't on me to make this next pick it's going to be on Chantel to go in this next one so it's not on me I'm not taking a here we go if you lose this one never I didn't lose it drew it was Chad GPT who made me lose this draft is what I'm hearing I mean I can't do any worse right
1:05:42 Than like having no players in the final like or just like I could just match that so I got a lot of room for improvement here so I'm hopeful so I'm going to go with the team that you guys thought that I was going to pick before we have a winner that's going to get a lot of confessional points that I do see a decent amount in the trailer now I know ankles isn't necessarily you know a comp beast but they are you know she is an elimination Beast and so I'm hoping that this is the dangerous Duo that chat GPT says that they are going to be because they chat says that they'll earn points through eliminations drama and confessionals and even if daes aren't their strong suit they're gonna do decently well so let's see if Ashley can get Ana a win on All Stars 5 wow here we go here we go biggest pick of the draft so far we've got Ana and Ashley taken off the board and you know what this was the very moment that I realized that grock was going to let me astray like Elon Musk has it out for challenge fans I feel like with this grock GPT because it had Ana
1:07:02 And Ashley as the second highest draft pick for me when I did it on Gro grock was really high on their chances to win because an has got all this experience clearly they haven't actually seen her perform in finals they've just seen her get to some finals they've seen her win statistically some eliminations but not very high personally on the chances of Ana and Ashley winning this season but I know at this point we're not NE necessarily picking winners here Chantel we're picking people that we think will give us points we give us some fighting points we potentially do really well in eliminations if they get in there Ashley's a very capable and smart player people have been wanting to see Ashley come back and play the game for quite a while but I really can't wait for that first confessional where Ashley looks at the cameras and says what the hell production team what the hell challeng got you put me witha this season are we supposed to have a rivalry cuz I don't know about it like I've not seen where this rivalry is from where it was born if it was on social media or anything like I've never actually seen them be confrontational with each other and I feel like Ashley's rivalry after this season is going to be with the production team for putting her in this bloody spot where she's got to work with ana love the fact that Ashley's back Ana's clearly coming back for the paycheck now Drew what's your thoughts on this
1:08:22 Pick this pick is interesting because I had them ranked 12th and so did the bakery so we had I when I said that there's two teams that I thought that I would be choosing from this is the one that I was planning on choosing with my last pick because I wasn't GNA pick a different team that I know now is going to be there no matter what but look here's what I'll say good about Ashley and Ana one in the trailer there featured a ton they're yelling at each other I feel like they could get into arguments with other people when you have players with such big personalities like Devon like Shane like Frank and Ashley all in a season together they will argue with each other as well as argue with their own teammates so to me that's going to be that's going to be points definitely a niece of being on The Challenge official podcast will get points Ashley coming back after such a long time points I feel like this is a solid team I just felt like with Ana being in the atmosphere that I didn't think that they would be chosen as highly like I thought I would get the sneak pick at the end but I don't think it's a bad
1:09:43 Pick again what we've all been saying is that it's kind of like a crapshoot towards this point in the draft so you're kind of just picking the points on the table and hoping for the best now we did see Ana and Jordan go deep on season 38 make the final who knows what could happen Ashley does great in pressure situations in eliminations Ana we've seen her do great in eliminations what can they do together let's see I feel like this is a big question mark like I don't I'm not super low on this team but also I was planning on picking them with my last pick so I could I think this is the one of the bigger question marks in my mind for the draft so of course I was worried as well with oops we may have lost Chantel there for a second G her all right well but are you there still Chantel I'm talking but you can't hear me okay you're good strange did you hear anything I said no okay so I was also worried about Ana so I plugged in I am worried about Ana and her physical ability I know that she has a great elimination record but others may do better than her in dailies and depending on the format may
1:11:03 Get voted in but she does have some decent connections I.E the vacation Alliance and chat responded your concern about Ana's physical ability is valid her endurance and in daily challenge has been a recurring critique while her elimination record is strong her tendency to struggle in endurance-based or a agility focused dailies could make her an easy target for votes how however as you mentioned her social connections particularly through the vacation Alliance I.E it says n and Leroy but I think they're kind of complaining that and other longtime alleys could help protect her from consistent targeting so it's like here's how you might approach Ana and Ashley in your draft strategy and so an Ashley's winning record Ashley's two championships prove that she can perform Under Pressure especially in high stake situations like finals draw mine confessionals Ashley tends to deliver High highly entertaining confessionals arguments and emotional moments which could rack up points even if they don't win dailies elimination strength anda's elimination prowess and Ashley's versatility could help them survive even if voted in multiple times and social protection Ana's strong ties to the vacation lines May reduce the likelihood of being targeted early so I stand with chat GPT here
1:12:23 All right putting a lot of f in this AI Chad gbt challenge robot here I don't know I don't know I don't know how it's going to go like all I all I'm saying is it's going to be a wild shoot it's a crap shoot at this stage right I've got the next couple of picks and there's not slim pickings slim pickings out there I think I'm just going to go with what my original rankings were and I had this team ranked at number seven which in hindsight looking at it maybe a little bit High but I'm going to I'm going to stay with them and it's going to be kellyan and Sylvia for my next pick reason for it being kellyanne has competed quite recently against some really strong competition if you think about world championship World Championship was probably the season that I enjoyed the most from Kellan I actually thought that she was trying to play the game on her own terms she was trying to create this counter Alliance to go up against some really powerful players in the game and I do think physically she's still capable to hang she's capable to hang with most people out there and then syia I know a lot of people weren't the biggest of fans when syia came back and all stars but I remember her even though she didn't go as deep she had a really good performance she won a couple of dailies in that season from memory and had a bit of an alliance going I for some or other
1:13:43 Reason I'm not as good Drew at the history of the challenge as you are I know you make your living out of it and you go back and watch a lot of these seasons over and over but I feel like Sylvia and Shane have got some sort of alliance yeah exact she is coming with conne there and if Devon and Shane does really well that they could pull into a big brother type of alliance with a vacation Alliance like so I think if I'm looking at the numbers maybe cyanne is in a better position coming into this season compared to some previous Seasons even though I know she's horrible at playing that social game at times I'm really hoping because I really do like kellyanne and Kean and Silvia together I feel like could be a strong pairing thoughts on this pick here Drew in the spot I think it's really solid I think it's really good and I had them ranked seventh as well on my rankings so I think that this is a really good pick eighth for the bakery both are fit both are young I think that we saw in the trailer that they're yelling at each other and that's points I just feel like both of them have gotten second place in a final
1:15:04 And I think when both players heads are in the game they can do wonders and like you said Sylvia has the lavender ladies kellyanne does have some connections here via the all stars web because she's been here since like what season one Season Two Season three I think she's done like almost all of them except four so ex and then and then she just did 40 for a split second but on that season she got to probably hang out with Leroy and Devin and a couple of other players Ana and everything so I feel like this is actually a pretty decently solid pick so I'm actually I'm actually I'm quite impressed yeah well not only are you impressed I think Chris also in the comment section here said that she didn't expect that pick from me I don't know why you didn't expect me to pick them cuz you doubt mothers exactly step mom though that would be different I guess right all right chel thoughts on this pick you got her them in a good position if I was going with my own thoughts I would probably have taken them before the team they chose before this so you know they're both pretty strong I'm curious
1:16:24 If there's going to be a little bit more drama that hasn't been ironed out between Sylvia and Melissa who knows if they're friends again and we I think if you saw in the trailer preview that kellyanne and Sylvia did have a little bit of an argument right they were right am I making that up I don't know no they did they were yelling very loudly at each other okay so yeah I think that you're they're going to get some points this team I do worry about kellyanne for the fact that some sometimes she flounders Under Pressure and you know she can't do puzzles I don't remember Sylvia's puzzle abilities is she good I think so I believe so if that's the case then maybe it could be a nice little Pi a good fit pick here so yeah like I'm I think that like chbt had them at F five number five and so you're getting them at seven so I think you did a good a good thing so I hope they do well all right still hanging in there because I do have to do the next pick here as well as we get into the final round and this will be my last pick kind of sad we've gone through this so quickly I've been having so much fun trying to decipher who is going to be the teams to look out for and this is kind of I feel like where I'm at a bit of a disadvantage when it comes
1:17:44 Into this because there's a couple of players like I don't feel super high and I can say this now because I'm not picking one of these two teams I don't feel super high about ktie and Veronica I don't feel super high about Beth and Jan so that kind of leaves me with Big T and Cory and Ashley and Dario that's kind of where my where my thinking is but the problem for me is I don't remember Dario and Ashley all that well and that's why I feel like I'm at a disadvantage cuz I almost am leaning towards the team I know and I don't think yeah like I know they're dated and now they're Rivals apparently so but I don't really remember them from their season so that's not a good sign like they clearly didn't make an impression on me when I watched it back in the day so I'm going to just go with the known quantity or the known entity I should say here with Big T and Corey for my next pick and the reason for that is that Big T lover or hater I think the fans at times have been divided probably more so lover recently is a big personality and is someone that the camera loves so she will get lots of confessionals she will be funny she's got that connection with Melissa her Melissa is never going to turn against each other so with that she's clearly working with Nicole hopefully you know with Cole having been on Seasons recently there's connections that she can work on Big T and Cory I don't think that rivalry is going to prevent them from playing a good game Cory is a game player
1:19:05 And he will put game first in this instance and I do think some people still sleep on Cory like I do think Cory is a competitor and he's someone that if he goes up if you go up against them in a in an elimination similar with Big T she's got a big heart I can see them winning some eliminations I can see them hanging I don't think they're winning this season but I'm hoping for some drama points here I'm choosing drama points at this stage Drew thoughts on Big T and Cory being taken off the board I think it's a really solid pick I'll be for real they had a really solid season their most recent season if we're talking about being worried about Devin and Leroy because of previous Seasons we have to bring up the recent seasons of Big T and Corel they have they can get into arguments with each other and Corey has shown that he can be out spoken with everybody and anybody and when he thinks that somebody is coming after him he will be loud and there is enough people to get loud with on this cast I think Corey is one of the second biggest or third biggest guys in here so you got that going for you big T is I think really strong on puzzles she can cook for the house so I think that's really solid coming in with baked in numbers with Melissa which then gives you Nicole which maybe gives you a siphon to Devon and
1:20:25 Leroy I think that this is a really solid pick Bakery had them at the ninth right under kellyan and syvia so I think you're really solid I had them around the 9 10 11 pick system after everything so I don't know I think I think this is a really solid one I mean I can see them winning daily challenges if there's puzzles I can see them doing well Cory's coming off of season 39 final appearance and everything so I think you're good I think this is really solid and there I feel like there's a reason why you don't remember Ashley and Dario and it's because they're unremarkable like enough I think the I think the whole situation with Dario is that CT said on season 30 which I think was the last time we saw Dario he said all he did was sleep all day every day in the Redemption house and there was nothing to film for him so it's one of those things where it makes it makes why you can't remember them because you went with Big T and Corel and I think that it's solid I think I think out of everybody who's left that's a really solid pick thank you I feel better about that Chantel thoughts about bigie Cory being picked here in the last round by me I think that know your last round last pick I
1:21:45 Think you got a pretty decent one out of who's left I think that they are would be the most favorable Choice we'll see if they could work well together we saw Big T was able to work pretty well to get with CT will Corey have that way to be able to finesse their partnership I don't know and I don't know a big T will be able to finesse how Corey is going to work what if they have balance beams like I don't know they could do derail their team or anything with Heights didn't Cory have like a massive fear of heights as well I don't know freaked out in the final little anill he was like freaking out over it I'm like what I forgot but if he makes a final if he makes the final and he freaks out at that point I'll at the sandun that you see Sam crawling up right like is do you think that he's gonna get to the top of that and freak out like I don't know I don't know so I mean yes he got to a final I in his last showing Big T has been doing a little bit like not horribly you know not out first or anything like that and she has some connections there I don't know if they have combined the social capital that they won't be kind of a layup team or a team that many people might not mind throwing
1:23:05 In I don't know if people are will be scared to throw them in that they're going to come back and have some power because they're going to win some daili so I'm not sure but I think in this position with who's left in the game I think they're a great pick yeah all right so you do have the Mike Chantel and the next one is your pick you're going to pick the second last team of the draft I know and I mean not that I have great options to choose from I mean I love everybody I'm just saying in terms of who I think is going to get the most points I don't know if these are the most point getting teams like well-rounded but who chat GPT has next is somebody that you like scored and I'm like oh man what if they're gonna surprise me right we got one a backtack champion right that has come back and hasn't been doing well but is maybe it's gonna have something to prove going back onto Allstars where she's made it happen twice so I'm hoping that you know with some maturity being able to speak to Beth like Beth yes she's really she gets on people's nerves she gets in fight with people so we know that I'm we're GNA get some I'm gonna get some you know argument points from Beth but maybe
1:24:26 Jan will be the Beth Whisperer and they'll be able to work together at least a little bit and do okay I just don't want them to be gone first but at this point they would be who I would think would be the first boot of the Season which is really scary to say like Drew's gone Drew you're right I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just wondering is anybody else see this comment that's on my screen or is oh what do it comment where I don't know it's I accidentally think I clicked on something and now it's just stuck on my screen but I don't know oh it says Corey also fumbled that first part of I think I think I misclicked on something and I'm trying to get it off I don't know how to get it off so I think I accidentally Oh I thought you're like you're like making a dig at me or something being like something I said about this pick is messed up my computer cuz it's so bad no I was trying to I was trying to hit the arrow and then I think I accidentally clicked the a comment and I was like I don't know what to [Laughter] doted does say that J's recent wins has made her a strong competitor but also F best physical performance May hold them back but they'll likely learn points from conf earn points from confessionals drama and
1:25:46 Could potentially have some challenge successes so all right so there you go so what's your thoughts Drew on the last pick year for Chantel so she's going with Beth and John a is that what I'm hearing about yep all right so the people where did you have them ranked I want to know where did you have them ranked last 13th and then Bakery also had them at 13th so they were they were they were sitting down at the bottom look I've been banging the drums for John a slays all day but John A has not slayed in quite some days after Allstar three it's not okay been like two years or something now it's been so long it's been so long and I and I held on to that John AO for so long and I got to speak to her which was awesome at one point but there's a point where I started like stepping back a little bit I'm like okay there's a point where you got to you got to do something you got to you got I got Leroy and John a two people that everybody like okay
1:27:06 Stepping away from these draft picks because look they got some losing stink on them out of all the rivals they are the most rivalis like they have some real deep beef and if we know anything from Beth she likes to Stir It Up and I think that there can be there can be this this I don't even know what to say a storm about them that they can bring on the house I just and I'm hoping for johon I'm rooting for johon you know if Jon a can win with Beth this season holy heck that is incredible I just we just haven't seen John a slays in quite some time and I am just I am I wor you know I don't think they'll be the first out but I do worry about their longevity within the game because Beth is somebody who is very is very polarizing so I just don't know if they're G to be they'll get last if Beth is like I'm gonna stand on principle I don't like you John so I'm going to quit this daily challenge so we go directly into the elimination and then she quits in the elimination or something I don't know somebody throw her throws her whole suitcase in the pool again and then she wants want to get in a van and leave halfway through the game
1:28:26 Who knows you know so can I just say something I feel like if Jan can learn one thing she needs to get like I don't know if these guys have got like Talent managers that go out and you know negotiate for contracts when they go back on these Seasons but whoever's doing Ana's contract negotiation with the challenge she needs to get that person hired like last year like 2 years ago she should have hired that person because Ana's had recently Jordan and now Ashley to come back and play in a season so she's getting like phenomenal players champions in their own right carrying her ass on these Seasons similar to Nani with bananas and the likes of a turbo being her partner but at one point here I thought Jan was like The Golden Child Of All Stars like they were trying to create this narrative that she's the queen of all stars and suddenly they do not give a crap about her they're putting her with Beth like Beth is a fun character she's good casting from an entertainment standpoint but they're doing J dirty this season so like for me personally I put them dead last on my rankings as well they were number 13 on my rankings and I do feel sorry for you I mean this is the last round chel so it's like you can't do much worse like I mean any of these picks
1:29:46 We don't know where they're going to land but it's a tough one I don't know who I feel more sorry for you getting her or J I actually having to go out there and comp with probably J Jana is being so dirty by this and like I'm not even the biggest Jana Stan but Jana is she's great I just don't want to see her Legacy be tarnished by appearing like this like it's actually got me a little bit heated thinking about it right now so I don't know if you guys have got any thoughts I just rambled there for a minute or so but clearly they need to bloody do something about this like a Jana needs to like negotiate better coming into these Seasons definitely I was I was saying the same thing as you as like oh who did who did Jana get mad in production that's not allowing her to come back to well not defend her immediate title but at least one of her victories yeah I'm curious because what I don't know what's changed if maybe there's some tea out there that we just don't know but they are still inviting her back so maybe she said she wouldn't come back because she couldn't commit for that long and so they're like okay we'll give you a partner that you won't stay in the game for too long maybe they have some sort of arrangement like that I don't know I mean people are coming for me for choosing to go with Chachi PT and I get it's all in fun I'm just I'm just trying something different to have a good time and you know like it's not that serious
1:31:07 We're not playing for real money I haven't won in the long time anyways so what's it's whatever what it is and you guys can roast me and make fun of me about how bad the pics are it's just going to make it more entertaining right watching team just crumble listen can I say something on thisel yeah I need to say something on this Chad cool down on Chantel you guys were Chantel's CAD GPT two rounds ago when you had the opportunity all the power was in your hands to pick shintel the best reality pick team of all times and guess what you guys fumbled so don't come for Chantel like this leave her alone she's having fun with Chad GPT today okay and see allow myself to be at the mercy of AI maybe AI knows something that I don't know like it maybe it's being able to predict something that I can't see because of what I know about these players in these real life but maybe this is going to be a season where just things go differently and maybe I pick the best team who knows who knows but all no matter what I will complain about it but it's all in good fun I don't actually care okay I feel like we need to get the point T up on what
1:32:27 The points were in the season that Chad chose for you and then Chad GPT and then the real competition this season will be did Chad GPT outperform the live chat on the straff compared to that season I'm sure Drew still has the numbers drew should we should we put like a friendly wager on here to see if Chad GPT can beat the live audience I mean we can we can do it I would it out one two three 3 four five six I mean six players for each team was on that season oh with Kahuna okay here we go there we go one two three four five six seven eight nine so nine players so it's goingon to be roughly the same amount of players if we want to try to see if you can yeah I mean we could do it yeah definitely I feel like got you got second place you had Laurel and Steve on your final team That season with the with the with the people picking your oh no hold on hold on no okay so this is going to be weird because they picked your team for the quad so there's gonna be six total players for the quad so I feel like looking at this you got third place and you had Laurel on your team and I think with the pairs and everything you're definitely going to beat this draft having two extra players
1:33:47 I would I would think well I guess do average I don't know about this average per player points divided by the average of the players or something I don't know we could work something out all I want to do is I want to hold chat accountable for calling chatel out I want to this is the real rivalry we all deserve to see this season it's called The Challenge All Star Rivals five you know and then it's the Rivalry between reality realness and the live chat here on the dra I feel like that we can't go any deeper than that it's like the perfect outcome to this draft I'll keep I'll keep an I'll keep an eye out for it and I will have a special tally of like minus this with this and then we'll see like at the end what the final tally is Love It I think'll be good love it you know I kind of feel like Wes right now on Traders I'm just like putting something out there that maybe if someone's that confident there's more to it you know I don't know if you guys watch I don't want to I don't want to spoil too much but I absolutely love the last episode you know another Challenger dominating or having a strong performance in the early stages of the challenge that's or the Traders I should say that's what we need to see okay back to the draft you've got the final pick Drew for the draft who is it going to be you've got to choose between Katie and Veronica clearly
1:35:07 There's a lot of history there two very strong individuals a lot of fans love them coming into this season but they're going up against two absolute dynamos and Ashley and Dario tough choice where you leaning towards in this you know conundrum between these two teams one team will be undrafted for the season if you told me that I was going to have the opportunity to either pick Dario and Ashley K and Katie and Veronica I wouldn't have believed you but I will say that I did think in my original like predictions and everything here that I would have to pick either between like John A and Beth or Katie and Veronica just because Katie and Veronica despite having four Champions championships among them it they are the smallest of everybody in there so and I think they haven't had the strongest I think Katie was made the allstar one final and then Veronica almost made Allstars three but got injured or Allstars 2 and then got injured so this one's tough you know because I have a lot of respect for Katie and Veronica I think that they are incredible I think Veronica is highly underrated for what she has given to the challenge over the years and how
1:36:28 She was one of the people on Mount Rushmore to really bring it into the era that it is but on my shirt it says I got too hype and I didn't think that it would take me this long to talk about why I have this on my shirt because back in season 27 Dario and rafy went up against Corey Wharton and cousin Mitch in anim where Rafi almost won and that's when Dario says I quote Dario got too hype and body bumped his brother off the edge of the stage to where they lost the elimination and Rafi was like what happened he's like I'm sorry man I got too hype I got too hype and that one scene is the most overplayed scene in my brain at least once a day or six times a week I will think about that moment once and for that reason and because I am wearing this shirt and because they are able to be picked in this moment that I didn't think they were going to be picked I had this predicted to go to Chris with his 10th pick because physiologically they should have been able to get farther into this
1:37:48 Game but I will go with a mother in Ashley Kay I will go with a man who can get too hype and I am going to go with Dario and Ashley K there we go all the picks have been picked here in the draft with Ashley and Dario in the last round pick here like I said I don't have much to add on them because I don't really remember them that much so I'm going to defer to Chantel AKA Chad gbt see if she's got any thoughts on this pick being picked ahead of KT and Veronica in this last round Chantel well chat had them actually in 12th position saying that they're solid competitors but unlikely to stand out for drama or confessionals they may struggle to ACR points consistently in the highly competitive field here so H chat GPT doesn't have that much as much Faith as Drew does with putting the quote on his T-shirt chat chpt does not feel the same but I do think for age they're young they're GNA be pretty strong one thing though that Ashley just doesn't have that much fight but she does have Alliance in Frank and Sam from her original season they've won together so
1:39:08 She does have some numbers there so maybe depending on who wins in power that might keep them secure but she's just like she just doesn't have that much fight and so I just don't know if she's ever going to get too hype to be you know even winning eliminations but I mean at this point I think that they're are decent pick especially in the last position yeah and thoughts on Katie and Veronica not being picked oh I think that people are going to Riot in our comment section for this one oh I turned the comment section off the anything they can say they're going to have to sit with that for a while WR it now WR it now the chat while this video is going if you if you if you want to ride in the chat but it's not going to be afterwards all I'm saying ah I see I see well then yeah we'll be good then because I know a lot of people are big fans of both Katie and Veronica they're going to be super good at confessionals potentially drama as well but they're just not going to be strong physically and together like they don't they don't really complement each other physically we know Katie is terrified of heights especially Heights over water so that's likely going to happen if they
1:40:28 Get there and they're not going to do well Veronica just hasn't been great at much lately because she's so teeny tiny she's so small and I don't know if they'll last all the way to trivia for them to get a win so I understand why I would probably have wanted to pick them earlier if I was going with my own heart you know what I mean but my heart has not gotten me a win so maybe allowing them to not get drafted here might help my win percentage or potential so sad go well that is the final teams heading into this season for the challenge All Star five Rivals Drew should tell and myself we've picked our teams we've got a poll going up it's been up for about two minutes now here in the live chat to say who's got the best team and so far me surprise drw the lead with 47% of the vote and Chantel you and I we're locked together 27% in the second spot here okay people don't completely loath my team as much as yours that's good no I think and I also think that some people maybe didn't like we called them out a little bit for being anti Chantel on the live for doing the Chad GPT so maybe you know this is your time to show some love to Chantel you can give her a vote and let her know if you like her team
1:41:48 This is my karma vote my karma point this is your karma Point's vote like if they wanted to rig it right now they could you know and you could go from potentially having the team that no one believed in to actually winning the draft before it even started wouldn't that be nice yeah well we could decide at the end of the draft how the comma points and the vote will affect the final results we won't tell anyone before the end we'll just make it up as we go right and we'll just as long as it allows go from third place to First yeah this has been so much fun I really enjoy it like it's been a while since we've had the all of us on a live together and it's been really fun to talk about the challenge with both of you and maybe what we can do now is read a couple of comments before we start closing things off here just to see what people think how they're sitting with the team so if you want to leave us some comments here before we finish off the live let us know what do you think of the season are you hyped whose teams do you like who was picked way too late in the draft we'd like to know all of it get hyped like Drew here on the on the show Dolores is saying tell I have been having the TV on with this I've been cleaning and doing I had to stop and step in you got a great team Chad gbt heck why not you got this Dolores is showing you a lot of love here Chantel thanks Dolores yeah Chris is saying we are not anti Chantel
1:43:08 We love the Aquarius Queen thank youan as well saying love Chantel willly saying I don't have Chantel I don't hate Chantel but her draft is terrible she listens to jpt we thank her will is not thinking J okay I just like I don't know I don't think that I'll actually have the same results but I do know somebody that just did a loose consultation with chat BT for sport betting and they gave them some good picks so I was like well let's see if it worked to win them some money like let's see if it could work to that but this was there working with like official stats and stuff like that and so they're giving like a statistically like what would be the best picks for certain things so I didn't have that type of accuracy so I don't think I'll have the same results but I was just thinking like you know it worked for successfully for some sports betting it's gonna work my freebie draft right I tried it with Gro but it just had some really weird rankings and I was like I don't know about this I'm pretty sure it had like certain players that I thought like turbo and N9 was way too low so like tful something like that we they had this one had it third yeah so that's sounds like it's better I should have done Chad GPT du saying Veronica ain't done in 15 years how do you have CT
1:44:29 As a partner and flop so yeah I will say that Willie did say that Veronica was on allst Stars 4 and made the final which she did she could have gotten a little bit farther and gotten into fourth place but I look everybody's saying like makes an apology to Katie and Veronica I'm sorry but I'm not the only one that didn't pick her like we had we had 12 picks and I'll and I'll be for real I'll be for real I am not going to be up here saying that Ashley and Dario are a better team okay I will say that if ktie and Veronica I could see Katie and Veronica making it farther than Ashley Kay and Dario heck even if they don't make it farther than Ashley K and Dario Katie and Veronica could still have more points than them at the end of the season I did this purely because of a meme so I have the highest respect for Katie and Veronica when I am wearing I got too hype I can't leave Ashley K andario sitting there you know I picked a mean girl for season 40 and it worked out for me I just didn't pick Veronica this season but I have the utmost respect for them I'm not going to make sorry videos for Veronica
1:45:49 And Katie stands because guess what maybe I am one of them I just went with instead fair enough so awesome kri is saying love forel your team sucks but I love you so Dreadful Ruby saying I've got pretty sour taste in my mouth from All Stars 4 and 40 but there are a few people I'm excited to see hopefully that production won't mess it up I think that's where all three of us are sitting at as well right like none of us are coming into this season thinking wow production slammed it out of the park in these last two seasons in the final with the stars and the Hama votes having such a big impact on placement really annoying when they do that Drew especially since you know we never liked it when they tried to say we want to be known as like America's fifth major sport but if you're going to go down that way and you're going to say oh well this is like a legitimate competitive show and it's going to be based on who's the best surely you can't be doing have they changed their tune we haven't heard them talk about that maybe they do now just want to be like the best reality TV show and game things cuz you can't have your cake a eita too right yeah and I think that's what the most frustrating thing is especially to us as like the audience and like actual fans of the show not casual fans who don't do fantasy drafts who are in live chats with the fantasy drafts and talking about these players in real
1:47:09 Depth and taking this way too seriously like we do but it is frustrating because in season 40 all the pre- stuff said America's fifth Sport and so it is frustrating when that is your advertisement that you lean into that and then you show so much of the competition side and then you still want to have these gimmicky things of karma or Stars I understand you want a Twist but at the same time it's that's not a sportish kind of way to go about it and I know I've heard some stuff of Zach and Jordan talk about how the game changed after season 24 where they had to like put in the rules ahead of time to get all of it like figured out and locked in to make it fair and everything and then that all changed around 24 25 where they basically said they can make up whatever they want to whenever they want to for the sake of entertainment which then be entertaining like show us the entertaining stuff you know I mean there's a ton of shows that don't show like hookups and all this other stuff yet they're still entertaining so I don't know it's frustrating speaking of Zach I just wanted to throw this out there I do have all the people from Real World San Diego that one so wo well I'm also wondering like do I have the most winners
1:48:29 Or at least finalists on my team I feel like I could be up there oh let's have a look definitely have like what three or four winners one two three four you have four winners on your team I have three winners on my team oh from one from of the freaking Seasons sorry yeah and it still counts and Chris has two Champions two Champions Notting on winners huh and fun fact there's four championships sitting on the sidelines right now well that is a very good comment because BBG 95 reckons that Katie and Veronica will out score at least five teams in the draft points okay B call okay well see okay so maybe we could keep track of that stat too yeah I do a fantasy game for my patreon so I'll have all their scores on the like as we go along because I'm sure somebody will pick Katie Andor Veronica during the season so I'll be keeping a track of all of everybody so yeah keep well guys this has been a lot of fun
1:49:50 The last hour and 50 minutes have gone by so Qui quickly and it's been because it's been so long since we've done it we definitely need to do one or two lives like I'm going to be doing a lot less lives going into this year but definitely Keen to get us back at some stage in the future maybe do another we to do a conclusion of the season and see where we end up on the draft picks for sure and let's see how the next couple of months pans out it's just work keeps me super busy and my schedule's a bit unpredictable so you'll see me on the channel pivot towards a lot more short form content for the foreseeable future here on the channel you would have already seen I'm dropping a lot of Traders content I'm dropping Deal or No Deal Island content I can't believe we've got Dr W back in our TV screens love Dr W it's been fun to see him come in so hot on deal and O deal Island and I'll continue to do that also for Australian Survivor and Survivor 48 when that drops later on in the year as well so let's talk about what's happening on all the other channels like Drew what's going on your side I'm assuming you're ramping up and getting ready for this season off the challenge All Stars 5 yes I am I'm going to be doing a lot of things on the YouTube side of things I have getting in preparation for Allstar 5 also doing the review and recap for the reunions and then getting everything excitedly ramping
1:51:10 Up if there's ever a super trailer I'll cover it and do another breakdown hopefully it'll be an HD this time I can also do some breakdowns on the teams and where everybody's sitting I am also planning on an Ashley like deep dive look back at her first win because I think that lowkey it is one of the most underrated like wins she came into the season nobody thought that she could win especially going up against Camila and Nicole in that final and then she comes out Victoria so I thought that would be really fun to like look back on that season and do like I did with CT's look backs at his first wins and everything speaking of CT I'm also really getting in deep with the CT docu series that I've been working on for quite some time I've done some voiceover I've started editing the first part and it's coming along nicely it'll be up hopefully in February first for patreon and then a week later I'll be releasing them on YouTube H every other week once that happens but I'll make an announcement and I'm looking forward to putting it all out there so February it looks like will be the dates for the CT dark series which I'm looking forward to amazing can't wait to see that hit because I know whatever you do you put a lot
1:52:30 Of effort into it's always quality production so can't wait to see that on your channel So for anybody that gets to this video and you've never heard of angel cake which like that would be insane because in my opinion and I'm buyas best content creator for the challenge content here on YouTube go subscribe angel cake vids puts a lot of effort into all of the docu series that he puts out there and weekly coverage recap and reviews from each season as well as he's got a great patreon that he does a lot of offseason content or behind the scenes content for one of the most active discords as well so if you want to be a part of that Community go check out angel cake vids on YouTube Chantel you've also got your own CH channel reality realness and you do a lot of content on there as well tell us what you're up to at the moment well in five minutes you're going to be able to catch me and Drew talking about this most recent season of the traitors USA season three so definitely you know hop on over to reality realness with three S's and catch us discussing a really fun episode I definitely enjoyed it I can't wait to hear Drew's thoughts about the season so far and I will be concluding with the reunion so I'm gonna probably do part one and part two together and just kind of recap and do a little you know wrap up of season 40 we'll probably do that maybe Thursday next week
1:53:50 It's been a little bit more challenging figure figuring out scheduling with it not being easy to access anymore in Canada so it's like got to wait for this time for this to drop and can only watch it here like it's just been a little bit more difficult so trying to get into a flow and a Groove so hopefully I'll have that ironed out by the time Allstar 5 comes along which we will be covering over on my channel and I'm thinking about catching up on All Stars love Island UK one week has gone by and I haven't covered it yet but I think I'm going to catch up cover it and start doing daily coverage for that show so that's all I think I have going on right now but it looks like more shows are starting so you'll be seeing more of me so just subscribe to the channel ring the bell and then you'll know when every time I go live and you know join in on the fun there you go reality realness with three s's everybody and I've got the final tally before we finish off the live here for who has the best team Drew does take it out at 50% off the vote people reckon he's got the best team Chantel you're in second with 27% of the vote and then I am in Deb last 22% so all the work to be done here it's kind of the same order as the draft picks Drew had first pick Shel at second and I had third just putting it out there no this was a lot of fun everybody really enjoyed catching up with both Chantel
1:55:10 And Drew and everybody in the live thank you for being so active and for commenting can't wait to see who wins is it going to be the chat GPT Chantel or is it going to be the live Draft pick from the commenters on the previous season like where's that going to end out it's the Rivalry we've all been waiting for but if you really like this channel if you like you know and want to support all three of us we really appreciate it please subscribe to this Channel and all three of our channels and we'll catch you on the next live bye everyone