The Challenge: World Championship Episode 9 Review

0:01 Foreign [Music] [Music] [Music] foreign [Music] [Music] welcome back to the nullify Tech channel here on YouTube where Kahuna and I have got the TNT takes for you on the challenge World Championship episode nine I know we're coming to you a bit later than usual but I'm excited because I'm here with one of my fellow Mount Rushmore content creators of the challenge Kahuna you know you're right up there with Drew and chantella my eyes mate wow you're all

1:21 Right that's right that's big shoes to feel right there then I feel like team Young Buck coming after the Legends yeah or even the MVPs trying to like you know make their way in the game with all these awesome legends ahead of me so thank you I don't intend to be I feel like I'm the controversial one if anybody was to put me into the Mount Rushmore like I feel like it would because I'd be the Tory of this Mount Rushmore Turner I'll be your Danny wait that doesn't work does it [Laughter] in the life and still joining it I know it's quite late in the week that we're doing this running the risk of telling you guys too much I got food poisoning on the weekend so I just told Kahuna beforehand I've been out for like a couple of days so if I'm a little bit low energy compared to usual that is why because I tell you what I don't wish that upon my worst enemy and we were supposed to do this on Saturday evening and I had to like let go no listen I can't I can't get through a podcast and go no was gracious enough kind enough to reschedule for this day and for us to be able to come back and do it still because we want to deliver for you the audience may like you said at least it's not on the plane and Alicia not sick in the challenge house which would be a hell in and of itself we've had Tristan bananas you

2:41 Know everyone getting over it been taken away because of being sick but Chris soldier's on he doesn't get eliminated he's here standing doing the podcast so there we go it's the Australian Survivor rule that applies to me you know it's like the 24 hours you're out of the game but you can still get back in if you can still stand you know something like that so I don't know like I mean obviously we've lost too many people this season when it comes to injuries and things like that but this was an episode I really wanted to talk about in any case and I was really interested to hear everybody's thoughts here in the life and everybody's Sports you know Kahuna's thoughts I really wanted to get into the nitty-gritty of it because there's so many storylines Kahuna in the challenge World Championship that I feel like is coming sort of to a head right now and we're kind of seeing a bit of a conclusion to some of these storylines you know kellyanne and Tristan they were you know in the beginning of the season I thought they were going to be easy to beat because Tristan was struggling Kalyan was floundering but I've got to say they were the batlets and you know us Aussies and new zealanders we love our Battlers Kahuna so I kind of feel like I want to see more of both of them by the end of this episode yeah the Underdog Story is always appealing always something that you root for you know you kind of hope that the people at the bottom can get to the top and then when the people at the top are at the bottom you hope they can make their comeback as well and just always in striving for that parody

4:01 And equalness and competitiveness you don't want to see one team or one Alliance or one group just completely dominate you want to see people really going at each other so that it causes those Sparks and it causes the you know the friction and that's what we like to see and Kelly Ann and tristamine providing it you know we thought they were pretty low down but yeah the last week were huge moves and then this week trying as they might numbers are getting tough though as we get towards the pointy end of the season and you kind of mentioned it with the injuries and things like that like Kalyan had like a tough run with losing some of her allies in the game as well and you know the new combination of Troy and Casey becoming a team I think didn't really play into her favor because Casey is so tight with both Tori and Jordan for good reason because they're also protecting Casey in this game massively at this point but we'll get into that in a little bit I just want to say hello to everybody here in the live Chris thank you for being back in the life it's great to see you here again baby ice always excited to see my first co-coach back in the live as well Patricia is back here Lena I know yeah it wasn't great and well welcome back ahead everybody supervisor empathize he's skilled on purpose is that is that a pun notify I don't know I don't know

5:24 Man I feel like that's a shot that's a shot at us I think but hey getting into this episode interesting start of the episode like have we ever had an episode start with a bar scene right off the gate there's a couple of points here in this episode that and I think we've maybe have lost Cuda there where I feel like the normal flow of how these episodes work it was it was very different like for instance the bar scene right off the gate where we have Troy and Casey mingling a little bit and talking about the fact that they're now in this new partnership that they have to work together in the game and then also at another point in the game when like mid episode we had kellyanne going out and like picking flowers for Tristan which I'm sure when kuna gets back we'll talk about that as well but just the flow of the episode felt very different for me compared to some of the previous episodes that you would be used to seeing on Paramount plus I guess with Paramount plus they do take more risks and they do mix up the way that they do the episodes sometimes as well so quite interesting the editing of this episode was off yeah like that's kind of what I'm what I'm thinking like the there was something in the flow of this episode

6:44 Baby ice that just felt different for me like compared to other episodes and I don't know why that was like what was happening and I'm the worst and especially in the last couple of days having been not on social all that much recovering from my sickness I've already been following anything online to see if there was like Rumors in regards to why the episode was edited in such a different way is right is saying Tori and Jordan continues to force feed storyline the vacation Alliance loves to force feed storyline yeah and we're in the era is right and I'm PR or is it his side I'm sorry if I'm mispronouncing that we're in the era of the vocational Alliance right so I feel like we're probably gonna have to do with them sort of force feeding how the stories are being portrayed right now because it's been like what four or five seasons now of them running the game so they're kind of like the meta Alliance at this stage in the game and that's why I'm so happy with the season and how it's turning out I guess some may say that they're still there because you still got Jordan Tory and Casey there even though Jordan is kind of new to that Alliance but he's kind of by proxy of being close to Tori he's in that Alliance I feel like we've had at least some newbies come into the game that have given the powers that be a really good crack at the game which is which is exciting to see at least

8:06 Are you still there kuna am I back have you got me yeah just kill your camera and turn it back on because your camera is Frozen for me for some other reason yep I could see you but it's still it's still frozen for some other reason so maybe pop out of the stream come back in I'll be back in a sec right all right well while Kahuna gets that sorted we're going to continue to talk a little bit about I think Tori and Danny here in this episode they obviously have been a very interesting deal for me this season and I'd love to know in the live what is p what are what's people's opinions about the Danny and Tori Duo at the stage in the game have you been loving the back and forth the fighting that's been happening with this deal as they can't get it straight because it's kind of almost like an unofficial rivals or Frenemy kind of deal that we have here this season that I feel like after the season Danny is never gonna listen to Kiki again when it comes to who he should be selecting as a partner in the challenge because I'm pretty sure Kiki was the one who told him that they should have basically oh he should select either was it Janae or Tori and I'd love to know who Kiki told him to go

9:26 For first if it was Tori origin night let's have a look at what the life is saying to say this is why I appreciate the cast podcast interviews they are able to clarify things yeah interesting we've got you back now Cody I'm just reading a couple of comments here Chris is saying team Demi Danny all the way Tori isn't playing to when she's playing to help Jordan Danny wants to win and again I think it's a case of Danny coming from a show where everything is about the individual it's not a team sport it's not a well he's been in a team sport before I guess but the game that he played in survival was individualistic right and he doesn't have to think about those relationships for the future I get it's like let's say 101 Kona it's very easy to look at it and I'm not the biggest Tory Stan I'll be honest but I want to put myself in poor issues because we love to do it here on this podcast right just look at it for a second she was engaged to this guy there's clearly still some feelings there I think that not only does she want Jordan maybe to win she still would prefer one but I don't think there's any scenario where Tori can betray Jordan like I just think that there's still feelings there and like if you feel for someone and you mix that in with a game like the challenge things are good you know what is it gonna get married yeah and the funny thing is that Jordan of all people on the challenge is

10:47 The type that would completely understand the game move as long as you're open and honest about it like if you said look where who we are when he's the one who said I would not have our relationship dictated by a terrorist last season if you remember right so he's yes and I'm sure if Tory said look I'm Team USA your team UK we got to do what we got to do but you know that doesn't affect and Jordan would be like yep let's play the game like he's that type of guy but Tori is clearly loyal to the soil and she doesn't want to she also sees the benefit of having people around that will protect her because that's how she's gotten to the end every single season she's on like I don't I don't even remember the last time she didn't really make a final or get very deep into the game so yeah like she's got her she knows what works she knows the blueprint for her and she surrounded herself with people that are very good at what they do and can get to finals and like so far she's there she's heading there even with the friction with Danny even with the fighting with that like opposing views opposing like wants opposing strategies and they're still in it and she's got Jordan there she's got Casey there and she's got her people there that are going to help her get to the end so look you may criticize it but she

12:07 Does what she what works for her and like can you really blame anyone for doing that when it when it's a game of questions quick question here we've got Patricia here with an interesting comment saying Tori needs a break she's too caught up in the TV show friendship and are we seeing history repeat itself with Tori where if she continues to play the game if she continues to get to finals consistently she's getting too many friendships too many people she need to protect right now can I know it's kind of different a little bit to Kara Maria but can the game consume Tori to a point where this game could change who she is as a person even to a certain degree because when your life is the challenge and you don't do anything and I mean nowadays how much how much downtime do these challenges get because it's pretty much you're done with one season you're straight into the next one isn't she rumored to be on the USA as well or I can't remember the final cast I got out but I've got a feeling like she might be even on that cast right she's in every season these days that's a really interesting comparison actually I never thought of it that way like Cara Maria very physically strong fan favorite kinda got turned on and I feel like Tori's getting some bad like I don't know if she was as loved as Cara Maria like University I always was a fan yeah definitely there's differences there's differences for sure but I mean it's but also comparisons

13:27 Like if you look at it I think it could happen to anyone right if it's a fan favorite a non-fan favorite I feel like the challenge because they come back every season you know you can like fully your life becomes the challenge like how do you how do you even interact with people after the challenge when you've like them portraying and backstabbing people consistently in the game and then you've just gotta like go home ask your mom to make you a cup of coffee and then you're like distrusting it is she making you tea or she making you coffee because you're like still in game mode you know what I mean like how do you switch it off yeah and I also don't know like even when you're in that environment what kind of like decompression you can do like if you're a professional athlete right and you have to get into that zone of competitiveness I'm going to run through the opposition I'm going to do whatever I need to do but then after the game you go home to your wife and kids you relax you've got training you've got sports psychology you've got all these sort of things but in a thing like the challenge you go back into the house with the exact same people you just try to hurt right and then now you start the politicking now you start the deceptiveness and receiving and really that stress I don't even know what's more stressful that the physical challenges or just being in the house in that environment and having to try to figure out how do I stay in the house it's got to be such a thing that plays in your mind that is only going to be exacerbated by the hate that

14:47 Some of these people get online like the comments the feedback no one's prepared I think you're I think you think you're prepared for it like but I feel like you know even for me like I mean let's say the Stars aligned and I end up on Survivor South Africa one day right I've been on the game now for a long time I know kind of social media wise the Hague the feedback everything that you could potentially get but I don't know like mentally you tell yourself I'm prepared for that like I mean whatever I'll just ignore them they're haters but I think it must be tough if you're sitting on the other side and people are like criticizing every little aspect but I will say sometimes the podcast keeps me honest especially when I've got my takes you know like I know Chris keeps me honest especially you know if I've got to take as an agree with and I feel like Chris is giving me training if I ever do get onto one of these shows like I'll be I'll be better prepared than others that's what I'm trying to say yeah I'll have a look at a few more seasonal season of season it's Gotta like have that Snowball Effect I think and she should take a break I agree like I think even just for mental health to be on TV that much that constant have a camera in your face all the time like it happens for three what is it three months like ten weeks or some something like that and then they take a small break and then another 10 weeks like no wonder those vacations are so important to them right the vacation Alliance

16:07 They have to have that down time to kind of get off like being on the challenge constantly I think yeah Patricia's saying I thought about current Mariah comparison the other day thinking about how I like both of them at the beginning of their challenge careers I kind of like Tori a little bit in the beginning as well but now I'm tired of him find him annoying and I think there's also a little bit of fatigue for me is a challenge like fan and I know I'm a newer challenge fan I always say that and I've gone back and watched quite a lot of the older Seasons as well but I'm definitely not as well versed on it as you know people that followed it right from the start and I'm aware of that but one of the things that I picked up as well as like you when you get these trains when you get like the vocational lines like every season dominating it kind of feels like Groundhog Day and you're like I've seen it I've seen it play out I want something different I want something exciting and that's what the season has brought to me so I do agree with Lena earlier saying that she loves Denny standing up for himself you know we've been loving that energy and I'm really interested to know from people in the live and I know this is a little bit well we'll talk about the episode as well but the episode was pretty straightforward in regards to some of these storylines so I think we can bounce through pretty quickly when we talk about it but what are people thinking about Sarah at this stage because obviously again in this episode you know we've got the fun scene with Sarah and Tori doing the rock paper scissors and we clearly see that you don't want to take Sarah on for rock paper and scissors

17:28 So they don't get nominated to go down but a lot of people were very low on Sarah when the previous you know season was on and I've got to say like I feel like Sarah is pretty likable this season like everything we're seeing about it like I mean she's still Cutthroat she's a and again she's a we've spoken about it on this podcast before I look at it as like a boss like basically you know she's like I'm gonna do it my way I'm gonna get it done which I have grown up my whole life with very strong women Role Models around me like I've been very fortunate in that since and South African women in general also it's a cultural thing that they are very tough and resilient women so I kind of naturally like that in someone it's one of the reasons where when Kara Maria was standing up for herself I had less of a problem with it now I understand people didn't like it but I was like you go camera you've been bullied whole life you know doing the challenge now you started to get a backbone and people are not liking it but fight back you know and I do think it was good for her to take a break but what are people thinking about Sarah now after you know seeing her back on this season as well seeing a bit of a different side here because I feel like she does have that balance between her now she does have like the tough side that the game mode side but then you also see the soft side her caring for Ben her being concerned for Emily this episode she does have that side to her as well yeah like I think we when you have people that are you know

18:48 People and all-rounded individuals that aren't just one aspect sometimes it takes a bit to get your head around that you think yeah Sarah Lucina MMA fighter cop Alliance badass sort of woman but I mean she's got relationships she has fun she's a person and we forget that they're not just complete characters that there's actually more that makes up an individual human than just you know that one aspect that you get to see in a TV show that's highly edited so yeah we get to see interactions with Emily like even though it was kind of you know Throwing Shade at Tori and Jordan but earlier in the season the engagement thing was you know a joke and it was a player a lot play on and it was fun and you get to see that side of her while she also goes out there in challenges and throws everything at it and tries really hard in all aspects so I think she just kind of lives life in like in such a cliche but when people say they just live life at 100 miles an hour and everything that she does she throws herself into its passion whether it be my relationship with Emily my alliance with Danny my daily challenge or you know when she eventually maybe I don't even know if it's going to happen goes down into the arena she's going to put everything into that as well and that's kind of just what she does and you can't help I can't help it like that like I know it can be abrasive but I

20:08 See it as she's just doing her thing and owning it kind of thing and not really being sneaky about it she's just out there playing the game she wants to play and playing it as hard as she possibly can I have to respect that yeah I kind of had like flashbacks to her and Tony's Alliance and therefore those that are watching this that don't watch Survivor wouldn't know but Tony is basically the goat of Survivor you know and that's one of the big reasons why I've always had a love for Sarah is because she is one half of the cops are ass Alliance and I love that on Survivor and you need to go watch Survivor to really understand that side of it but I kind of looked at Danny as like her Tony in this moment when she's like I came into the game with this guy I've got this guy's back you know and she's so loyal so fiercely loyal to Danny and it makes me so happy to see this you know alliance between Danny and Sarah and like the fact that they're willing to go to war for each other it's so different from Ben who was wishy-washy you know and again I'm not I know people are like oh Chris is probably now turned on being like I think Bean is probably a nice guy but one thing I've noticed about being is he's wishy-washy in these types of games so you can't trust them so I understand why they didn't want to stick with him until the end but I want to read a couple more comments here Chris is saying I'm your biggest hater for now some so eye emojis there yeah like listen you're gonna have competition if I get onto reality TV I tell you what you know you're gonna have to get in

21:28 Line Chris there's gonna be a lot of haters out there I'm sure Lena's saying I used to generally like them both I know now look forward to seeing Karen Maria compete again I'm excited definitely I mean Karen Maria is looking in good shape at the moment that's all I'm gonna say like she's been training she's not been sitting at home relaxing on the couch eating Donuts which is fine you can do that if you if that is what you like to do but I mean Cara Maria has been ready for the Callback she didn't rest she was training that's for sure before Danny cab it says yeah but the vacation is with the same people so they really aren't a part of that much that's true Sarah's being sneaky in the background yep she is that she's good at what she does with the social game Ryan is saying what did you want to get away from people in the house instead of spend more time with them on vacation yeah I don't know that's it is weird they it's kind of like I feel like it's like when you like you know when you work at a place Kahuna and you know you have these parties like office parties afterwards and people like hang together like I've never been are you a fan of that are you a fan of like hanging around with people from work after hours because I feel like it's dangerous you know like I'd rather just stay away from it I always have the built-in excuse that I've got kids and stuff at home you know I can't I got another wife at home I gotta go no I've never been a big fan of it because yeah I

22:48 Work where I work and then you know but I recognize the need for it for some people and I recognize I have done it in the past due to you know wanting to do the politic game and you know playing the client letter if you will and knowing that there are times where your appearance is necessary so I get that I don't necessarily know that it plays out to the vocational lines but I get that they go through maybe it's like a trauma bonding thing like they go through this difficult experience with each other and now we can still like I like them but it's such an intense environment maybe I can just hang out with them and still hang out with the people I enjoy in a more relaxed environment I guess there's something like that and when like you said when your whole life is a challenge like where are your other friends they don't see them they've cut them off because 12 10 to 12 weeks at a time they're completely incommunicado they can't even like you know they're not checking their Facebook and messaging people and keeping up with what's going on they're in a in a house playing a very intense game and they don't get to connect with other people so maybe some of those relationships may have fallen by the wayside over the years who knows and this is the point you bring up I think this is the reason why we don't and it saddens me to say this but this is the reason we don't see Denny and Sarah coming back on a normal Challenge

24:08 Season on MTV I think if they ever do come back it will be for a shorter version season like a USA 3 or World Championship again it's like Legends or something like that as people who've competed before but I feel like both of them have got lives outside of the challenge world and I feel like if you get to be a part of the challenge it's such a great privilege and some people obviously at different stages in the life where they can afford to do that but I mean Sarah's a mom she's got a full-time job as being a cop but like I mean I'm surprised she's still employed to be honest with the amount of time she's gotten off to go do reality TV shows over the years and that she must have really relaxed bosses to allow her to do that as much as she's been able to do it Danny I'm not too sure what he's doing now that he's not a professional player anymore like maybe he would do it but I'm pretty sure you know he again he looks like a family man would want to spend time with the family I don't think we see them consistently coming back and that's why the USA two cast is looking very different we don't see many of these players returning I think back to back that we would have loved to have seen come back and play again I do want to read a few more of the comments here Chris is saying yeah was Auntie Sarah but I was wrong I'm liking it on the show we needed her here Lena's saying I'm shocked that I'm enjoying Sarah this season and before Danny cab is saying Ben said her caring for him was for the cameras now again like I said Ben I feel like is an interesting character because I even saw

25:28 It in Survivor a little bit of background or Survivor he hated on Jeremy That season for absolutely freaking no reason and he was so bitter towards him the whole time so I feel like Ben is one of those guys when you betray him when in his mind not that Sarah actually I don't know what she really did to betray him because he's the one who went against the alliance first from what we saw and maybe I'm wrong about that but I feel like if someone has done him dirty there is no forgiving them anything that they do and kindness to him is false in his mind I very much doubt that he knows what was going on in her heart when she did that because I do think Sarah's got a caring side to her and I don't agree with Ben on that before any capsues I don't think Sarah cares who others think of her it's a good strategy for her but not for an alliance yeah I don't think she cares too much either but I do want to talk about one thing though because since we're talking about Sarah and we're talking about you know Danny and they're a big part obviously of what we've been talking about every single episode it's not just because I'm on the survival watch they've been a big part of the season but how different was Jordan's approach this episode compared to bananas like it was interesting to see like bananas are slipping because I think bananas over the years and this is a hot take I've got and I'd love to know people's thoughts on their lives and I'd love to know your thoughts

26:48 Gonna I feel like bananas have relied on his reputation over the years like I'm the big banana man like you know I'm the I'm the goat of Survivor people will just follow me because I'm Charming and I've got the aura The Producers love me if I tell them to do this they're gonna do it because of who I am the aura I don't know if he's actually got the skills to manipulate and persuade people without the aura and Jordan is a different breed like I mean he just showed us how to do it this episode this approach was so much better it was negotiating it wasn't telling them what to do it was like listen we can give you this then maybe you give us that next let's it's a give and take situation here and Jordan came to them as equals where bananas came to them as I am the goat of the challenge yeah I think it depends on who the audience is Right bananas approach has proven to work very successfully for him for a particular type of Challenger he can go to the rookies that have haven't got the experience and maybe even the overseas players that don't even really know the game like we've seen players not even know what they're signing up for I think and he can definitely exert his authority there but when you run into legitimate players that have played other games in their own right and in the game like World Championship they're literally or

28:09 Not all of them but a lot of them are actual winners and champions as well like it's a very different Beast you can't throw your weight around as much like you know like if you're if you're playing video games against some okay here's why I went down this path because my son is five years old and he sucks at video games right but he always wants to play me dad play me play me play me I'm like dude I'm gonna freaking destroy you it's not even a thing and I have to like are you are you there parent gooner are you that parent that has to let them know every single time you're like I'm gonna let you know like you know I want to build up the confidence like that I kind of do a mix I'll win every now and then but you know sometimes I'll lay down and let him have a have a round or whatever we're playing and I try to build him up that way you know and teach him but he would be a very different scenario to playing against you know other people that have played games as long as I can have and all that sort of thing and I'm not very good at games but against a five-year-old I kick ass like it's I'm the goat when it comes to five-year-olds right and that's kind of what bananas has been able to do he sometimes has a few like he might have a West there that goes against him but once he goes out or he might you know be friction with Jordan depending on they see each other but over the last

29:29 Couple Seasons they're all getting together as well so his resistance has been much less but then we run into a season like this where you've got all champions from different seasons that have that have been around the block you know Sarah is a Survivor champion and a challenge Champion like she's not going to back down from that and like we've towed we've touted how much of a batter she is Danny a professional NFL player isn't going to be scared of a thing like this right like when it's the audience that dictates how bananas how effective bananas can be I still think he can do it just depends on what the makeup of the season is and that's probably why many people question the casting choices are they putting people there like you've said it yourself are they putting people that will you know bow down to the legends of the challenge yeah I really think there's something there and again seeing how Jordan approached this episode how he was able to work with the two so-called very complicated people out there and I do think that both Danny and Sarah are probably two of the most stubborn people you'll ever meet I love it's great TV it's been exciting to watch this season and for good reason they why should they trust these vets these legends that have had so many Caesars together that are going to be always

30:49 More loyal to each other than to them but I do really applaud him for the way that he handled it being the mediator obviously Tori and Emmanuel relationship that probably helps him a little bit as well so that Danny's like okay well I need Tori to feel somewhat happy because we're getting close to the end of the game here at some point we need to learn to work together because if we don't do that then there's no chance for us to win the season as a whole you know and but still seeing him do it like I felt like he did more things and it's also a massive growth for Jordan like this Jordan didn't exist 10 seasons ago you know like the jordaner was always fighting with the house and people not cleaning their dishes and like he was a very confrontational guy and we've seen growth and Jordan we've seen a maturity in him which I feel like Jordan if I had to have one pick of who is going to potentially equal CTN and bananas as record for Championship wins it's Jordan because he's like what 34 like the guy has got a good sex or eight years off competing still in him and he's so dangerous and Danny's been right to try and get rid of him and he's still there like I mean just based on experience alone based on her trade alone it's gonna be tough to beat him at the end his biggest competition his biggest potential roadblock going forward is he doesn't let Kaz know in this episode that he's going to Target Kalyan and Tristan and

32:10 We saw in the next fine episode there might be a little bit of blowback because she was only she found out about it very late on in the in the conversation and she didn't have an opportunity or he didn't have willingness to change his opinion about it which make made cares feel like listen I'm a champion as well and why don't I have more of a say in this Dio I've felt that very much so when you say he's matured and changed a lot like those that's the sort of thing that made me flash back to Old Jordan where he's got firm stances and he's not going to change and you're right like I felt the same way I'm like wait a second like why does he automatically just one thousand percent dictate not going to be Tori where she can't do the same for Theo or whatever or Tristan in that instance right she can't back her choice when he 100 has to back his to the point where like I wonder if he would you know we've seen the blowback for potentially flashing like teasers for next week would he go down into the sand in order to stand by his choice I think he would like Jordan's that kind of guy that's what I mean like is he's definitely matured a lot but there's still flashes of old Jordan there that's still like under the surface and that can come out at any point like and the fact that he sort of said when she said we're supposed to be working together and

33:30 He goes are we like in the in the preview for next week I was like oh that's old Jordan and then he just walked away I was like ah he's an again but it's only for little bit so but I think I think I think it's more contained though I do think it's more contained like it is firm he's like I'm not arguing I'm not gonna throw a fit about it but no I'm this is where I'm standing you know so he definitely still has that stubbornness about him but I also do think that you know funny enough like it's you know maybe he didn't have enough of a conversation maybe he didn't have enough patience to sit down and explain everything to Kaz or maybe we're just missing a lot of context because I'm sure you sat down with Kaz and said hey if you had to choose between Theo and between Tristan who do you want to keep in the game and we know Theo is the number one she's already told us that and he's gonna be like listen I can only protect Tori you can only protect Theo Danny can only protect Sarah who else can we go for that's literally everyone in the spot there is only one team that we can go for the bigger question here is though how do you feel about Kaz and I'm sorry I will come back to the live to reach your comments in a second everybody but how do you feel about Kaz not giving Tristan their heads up like she promised she would do like do you feel like it was a bit of a betrayal by her there or do you just feel like she felt so bad about it she just put it off as far as and as late as she possibly could which was at the arena

34:50 Yeah I don't I don't know like it would be such a hard conversation to have especially with like knowing that yeah like there's the potential that you might not even have to have the conversation if they go home then that problem is done I'll just you know that might be futurecast problem if he comes back I'll deal with that later but if I don't have to I don't have to it is a big dog when she literally said it to his face you should actually just call it out because there wasn't really anything you could do to change it like it's not like Tristan could have gone no you need to change something like the ink was set like the die was cast it was gonna happen the way it was going to happen so she should she could have given that heads up just to smooth over that relationship but I don't see they're changing anything either way right like he was going down no matter what so yeah all right let's read a couple of the comments here so we've got Chris saying I do not go to work parties either once I'm off the clock I'm gone I'm the same like just yeah gone don't want to know anything about work afterwards before Danny campuses kellyanne said that Danny spent his whole time in bed we're not competing not good for building relationships or for long-term game I think Daddy's again like it's this I feel like Danny like you know when you look at it like I feel Daddy's that guy Kona this is how I'm reading him like he's you know we all know that guy like you know

36:10 He's got to fight a number if people push him to an edge he comes out and he stands his ground but in general I feel like Danny is more of an introverted guy like I don't feel like he wants to mingle with everybody that's kind of why his edit in a lot of previous seasons has always been kind of like middle of the road for me like I've never like I've always liked him I've always thought he's a nice guy but this is the first season where I was boy I'm like man he's bringing like must watch content to the show I mean why did they why did they struggle so much in USA to get any content outside of you know shout out to my wife Kiki and I was like Kiki like 20 times because I just don't think like he's got the most you know extroverted personality and maybe that's the reason like where he was just like I just want to have my own time I just want to you know there's too many personalities too many big people around me I just want to do my own thing I agree though with a comment that it's not great for his social game Danny definitely doesn't go to work parties and that's what he's doing he's like I did the challenge today the daily I'm on the clock and that's it and hey he's one of us yeah exactly I'd be the same probably yeah Chris said bananas is old news yep and yet they keep bringing him back he's on USA too Lena's saying Ben's treatment of Jeremy and survivors why don't care for

37:30 Him I'm trying to keep an open mind but he makes it hard I would go as fast as say beaufort's treatment of Jeremy and Adam because even as a treatment of Adam Klein That season wasn't the greatest but you know I've got a soft spot for complex personalities and I also feel like he's gone through some in his life like I mean you don't you don't go to war go Behind Enemy Lines without coming out of that thing traumatized to a certain degree so I feel like I always lean sometimes I'm too compassionate like I always lean on the side of compassion and trying to understand the complex personality first before writing them off but I do like I said I stand by my words earlier like I feel like if you've done them wrong like this just know he doesn't forgive people which is sad because him and Sarah was so close that he's allowed for a game to ruin that relationship Amy's saying I didn't like the way Ben treated Jeremy in survival either he's got on the side eye from me after that Chris says Tristan knew 100 he was going in but Castle should have said something yeah 100 Troy Cullen Troy welcome back to the live as well obviously we had Troy here on the podcast last week when I had my really shoddy mic fix that choice so you know we'll get you back on another episode in the future hopefully the quality will be better but Troy says Cass definitely should at all Tristan I think because she thought it was obvious she didn't tell him yeah like listen if it's

38:51 That obvious then if you really value the friendship just go there and talk right Kona yeah there's no downside like he's gonna go in anyway he would have appreciated the heads up absolutely yeah Christina welcome back to the live Christina says Danny is most likely done after the season I agree Lena's saying I believe his wife encouraged him to talk more yeah well it's hard right because you may know that it's the right thing and Troy you could if you're still in the life you can let us know in the comments is Danny like how myself and Kahuna season he's probably just like more of an introverted person who likes his own time and you know I feel like for him to be as big of a character this season is because he's had us back against the wall with Tori from the beginning of the Season which has given him this great storyline and has made all of us love him on the show more but Troy I feel like he's a bit of an introverted person you lived with him in a house you might be able to let us know in the comments if that is your read on him as well because I feel like even if your wife tells you hey you need to be a little bit more outspoken you need to be a little bit more engaging that if that's just not your natural personality it's very difficult to do unless you're an actor which a lot of these people on the challenge are but he's definitely not an actor or an actress right Kuna no he's a he's a NFL player he plays sports for a living he you know ran into people very hard and

40:11 Got paid for it and that's what he does you know what I mean like he doesn't have to hide how he's feeling because there's no feelings in football you just do the X's and O's I run at you I win you lose whatever it may be and that's the way he goes about it yeah Chris is asking is Danny a real introvert or a fessy introvert it's an introvert that's why people don't give me yeah so many great comments coming in here leader saying I believe his wife encouraged him I don't know who was it that said they probably didn't get a lot of good footage from Danny and the challenge is hey because they didn't think he was going to win they thought Tyson was going to win yeah I mean I feel like there's a lot that gets left on The Cutting floor I'm pretty sure Troy told us on the podcast last week or maybe even it was off ear and I'm sure he wouldn't mind me sharing this that there was a lot of explanation that he did a couple of rounds ago on even when they filmed it about why you know Ben and Casey had to go last when they when they ended up you know not tying the vote because they actually planned it in a way that it happened and Troy did a lot of explanation behind the scenes on why they had a strategy for them to sit at certain tables and things like that and a lot of that left was left on The Cutting floor so I do think that they fall more than what people see sometimes as well so Troy says I do think Danny

41:31 Is a little bit introverted enjoys his own space and his own people I feel like once Grant left he just didn't feel he needed to talk to everyone all the time but hey you would have to ask him yeah 100 would have to ask him it's just your perception obviously Troy off of him in the house and it's interesting that he gravitated towards Grant as well because obviously him and Graham probably had like that Sports thing right where there was like hey we can talk about sports and you know I found it interesting he's like you know I'll come and visit you over in Australia so clearly they had a very big Bond very early on and he kind of lost that person so I think outside of Sarah like he probably didn't really have many people there and I also think if you're Danny you just feel confident enough that if people throw you in you're coming back because you're a bloody absolute freak of nature this I mean there's a really with six teams left there's a really good chance that he's not going to go down right there is a good chance yeah and then it would have been that would have been two seasons then that he hasn't actually seen an elimination yeah so that would be interesting I want to get back to the Daily because we haven't actually spoken about the daily yet we're 40 minutes in but I hope it's been good content for everybody listening we have a pretty interesting daily sponsored by the Transformers you know I haven't watched the Transformer movie since yeah I don't know if I should say this controversial name but since Charlotte buff and

42:51 Megan Fox was still in the Transformer friends yeah I haven't I've been stayed I haven't stayed you know just do it that guy but [Music] I haven't I haven't actually I haven't watched it in so many years I didn't know that they were still making movies they like the fast and the furious they just keep popping them out Kahuna left right and Center are you a Transformers fan no I'm a big Transformer fan like actually do I have any I don't have any here behind me but I've got plenty of Transformers for when I was a youth and now that I have kids of my own a five-year-old son he saw the trailer for Transformers he saw when I was watching The Challenge he saw Optimus Prime so he was freaking out I was freaking out because I anytime I see a red truck I automatically think Optimus Prime in real life and to see one decked out and normally I don't like sponsor Titans but when I see an actual in real life Optimus Prime truck I get excited that excitement died down quickly when I found out fighting words baby yeah because what I like about Megatron is this gigantic 10-foot robot transforms down into one single handgun which is always fun but yeah like I was so excited for the we've seen big

44:11 Trucks and semis on the challenge and sometimes it makes for really good ones the fact that there was a black Optimus Prime and a red Optimus Prime I was so happy and then the challenge happened I was like really lit down about how it was just so quick I felt like maybe like how my wife feels every now and then this is a family-friendly show okay the expectation did not meet the reality and it was just way too quick it was it was an interesting visual like and the way TJ hyped it up as well saying it was the coolest challenge ever like it did look great but man did it wasn't for what two minutes total again I don't want to Bisquick harking back to relationships with my wife but yeah it was it was a very fast daily and not much involved like it was there was no for something called The Challenge it wasn't much of a challenge except for maybe I would have liked I tell you what I would have liked for there to be more things with the trucks like I mean I'm sure someone like Troy a freaking ninja being out there having to run on one truck jump onto the other one click the key jump back unlock the button to hit it like it would have been like it's such a waste of his talents like I mean couldn't they like solve

45:32 A puzzle or you know like even in the USA or in Australia where they had to like swing next to it and use these like little pig holes together was more exciting I will say like the second part of it was exciting seeing the little four-wheeler jump out of the back of the truck I think it's harder than what you would realize with two things moving in opposite directions hurting the ground coming out of the truck would be hard to keep it going and then also there was a bit of excitement and seeing people rolling it like I mean obviously Emily completely stuffed it up on the roll but it's because she didn't know how to break and just kept the pedal to the metal you know which was an effective strategy but to get to the other side really quickly but she ended up rolling it looked really dangerous there for a second and then Tori just didn't want to let Emily shine and she needed to also do like a soft roll or something afterwards I don't know what she was thinking trying to like do a donut yeah she thought she was in Tokyo Drift just trying to drifted around the corner is that how they drive in New Jersey people in anybody in New Jersey is that is that her do people like do like just donuts for no reason over in New Jersey is that is that like the normal the normal thing to do because apparently she drove in New Jersey all I've said prepare for it that it's funny that you should say that there is I'm gonna go super Niche here and I bet I'm probably the only person in Australia if not the world who watched this movie in

46:53 The 90s there was a movie called New Jersey Drive about kids who would steal cars in New Jersey and do donuts around the thing and that was oh really the whole yeah so when you said is that how they drive in New Jersey I just went thing New Jersey drives you're like yes that is how they drive I was like it is I saw a TV show so that's enough proof the TV show showed me that is how they drive in New Jersey 100 every single resident of New Jersey that's right but yeah it was a fast quick challenge and there didn't seem to be a much chance for variation like I wonder how much time difference there was between kicking Darrell and Jordan and Kaz on the other end you know what I mean like it was just there's nowhere for the fall down or the holdups the puzzle being solved and being an equalizer was just quickly jump across and drive straight there wasn't turns which would being way too hard they couldn't even do that I think we shouldn't we shouldn't to blame TJ I don't think we should be blaming the challenge production team remember this was sponsored by the Transformers types must be tough I've seen that the Hollywood box office numbers continue to go down more movies continue to lose money these days then actually make money Hollywood's really struggling so maybe they just didn't have it in their budget and the Transformers budgeted to do anything more than what they gave us Kona yeah I think they just thought we get two semi-trailers they drive a

48:13 A four-wheeler thing I don't even know what you call that thing but you drive one of them it'll look great we'll have explosions coming out it'll be awesome but yeah it was just way too not enough there interesting yeah choices that there would have been less than a second between first and sixth so that close right and again that's again why I feel like they should have put more Nuance into it like get them to like solve the puzzle on top of the truck or collect more than one thing like something additional that would have like you know set them apart if it's that close and it all comes down to production you know like it all comes like your trust has got to be in production to see what the time was hope that the person hit the stopwatch at the right time and finish if it's less than a second it could just literally be the person not hitting the stopwatch at the right time you know what I mean like it's just too close for comfort in my mind everybody who says they don't talk about New Jersey I don't know what's going on like we don't talk about New Jersey I've been to New Jersey I've never seen Hamilton reference oh is it like is it is it Hamilton in New Zealand is it no the play Hamilton all right all right yeah most people don't go to Hamilton in New Zealand either so I would understand anybody shout out to Joseph he's Lawless shout out to the

49:33 Two people in New Zealand who listen to the podcast if you're from Hamilton you guys get it I'm from Auckland there's this rivalry okay Auckland and Hamilton it's just it's how it goes Chris say Troy color five seconds that is such a narrow margin yeah it's insane because this is the challenge didn't look that interesting honestly yeah so I mean obviously you know we somehow we get you know Kaz and Jordan winning this they take first place and I've got to be honest I kind of thought you know Sarah would have a good chance like being a cop like those people normally go through defensive driving courses and things like that like they know how to maneuver a vehicle and looking at the replay you can see how fast they were going over the finish line and by that you know Emily looked really fast cars look fast Sarah look extremely fast going over it the person who stood out the most was actually Darrell like he was like Grandpa driving like it was slow on the camera replay I'm like what are you doing Darrell this is a race mate I don't know why Kiki didn't jump in like you know why did Kiki not take the Reigns because all the other girls seem to drive and I don't know if white even had like a thing to do with it because it was a smaller and like sometimes when you drive go-karts if you're like heavier than others then it can hold you back I don't know if it had a role to play if it was just Darrell doing old man driving out there I wonder if Darrell was

50:53 Scared of the heights up on the truck he might not have been is it that high I don't I mean to me it would be like it's a semi-trailer so maybe I don't know if obviously yeah I like how you said is it a weight thing like on Mario Kart when you use Bowser versus like Mario the speed is such a big difference but yeah all right so Darrell in the field of heights wouldn't have jumped on I get it's not about him being in the car it's about just being on the track having to jump over but I feel like he would have done it before like I'm sure like I mean with the experience he's got he would have been jumping on trucks and there would have been other Seasons that he's done similar things to that I mean once again can we just give a massive shout out to Kiki who continues to be like she's probably like I mean who am I kidding she's my favorite she's my favorite MVP at the moment I'm loving Kiki man like Kiki can do no wrong in my mind what I love about Kiki is that she continues to throw herself at every single challenge every single situation and she's a badass like I mean talking about her history which we've heard about on the show before coming from you know domestic abuse and growing up with that and wanted to prove herself like I mean she's doing it every single episode I'm just I'm loving what Kiki is doing and I'm loving the fact that she's bringing out a very different side to Darrell that I'm actually I was kind of tired I'm

52:13 Not gonna lie like I mean I think Darrell's a nice guy I always say this we don't go I don't go after the person behind the character that we see on the screen but Darrell was kind of getting stale to me after the last couple of seasons of seeing him on and not doing really well but I feel like this relationship and this partnership with Kiki has made me again for me where I would love to see Darrell and Kiki win this season yeah I mean together they're gold they had another great little confessional with the pear-shaped when things go yes that was amazing what do you mean I like fish I was like I was like Darrell you're talking you're talking for me here because I've got to be honest man I love beer shapes as well I was like you know he's like you know what I'm saying I'm like I know exactly what you're saying Darrell I'm with you that was one of those things as an Aussie because I know the phrase so well I didn't realize that it was a specifically Aussie thing and I was like man it is like you know when you kick a balloon or a ball really hard and it goes from a ball shape to like a pear shape it's gone wonky it's wrong I know this because New Zealand Australia is so similar with those things like another saying we have here is saying turn to custard you know I don't know if you guys have it over in Australia as well I don't know if it's a thing over in the US but it's similar to things turning pear-shaped

53:34 Where it's just yeah it's not going well you know but yeah is good I'm I'm in the same boat I appreciate a good pair of shave just as much as derailing yourself Chris it's funny it's funny because for the longest period of time I feel like Darrell like he's a very serious guy but he's got a good sense of humor if he's paired up with the right person which is happening this season where we're seeing this fun side to Darrell a little bit more you know he's having more fun in the confessionals he says it with such a straight face you know his delivery is excellent it's been great like I've actually really enjoying it so let's see what people say about that before daddy cab saying I'm all for kick Andrew out to win this that definitely one of the most likable teams outside of obviously Troy and Casey as well being very likable as well come on everybody give it up a Troy especially being like the only Challenger who's so into the podcast and consistently getting on here and talking to us Kiki is the MVP of the season 100 Kiki is so good and I'm sure Troy would agree because I know that they're very close as well I want Kiki and rail to win if they don't win Jordan and Cass deserves to win yeah that I mean do they deserve it already like they've just won their first daily right yeah I mean really Tristan

54:54 Killian had two dailies they were the only ones with a double daily win so everyone else has kind of had one each so there's a few people who deserve it at this point Chris is saying you're out of control tonight keeping one out of the gutters oh this is all gone pear-shaped Christmas it's turned to custard on the podcast there Christina saying law who hasn't heard of pear-shaped I don't know because I mean it depends on which peer Chef you're talking about if it's the USB ship or the Australian pear shape Lena's saying not in the US all right so maybe Darrell was playing it up Chris say Troy yes Casey ah no boo go Kiki Amy's saying I like the fact that we got to see more of Darrell said that the elimination took one hour and 45 minutes he said his arms and hips were sore afterwards I hope he can swim fast next episode yes and they're obviously I mean so definitely I mean next episode's gonna be great seeing Emily in swimming challenges that alone is worth just having Emily out there doing this let us say Troy yes Casey a couple of question marks before Danny cab I like Troy and Amber but give Casey props I like

56:14 A bit of the season I agree before Danny Camp I agree like I get it's easy to just like this is my people these are the people I don't like but I always try and come into every single season and I'm like open-minded about you know people can prove me wrong at any time unless they did something horrible like the allegations around the Kenny's of this world you know it's hard to give away Cumberland did on the show in most cases I'm like you know I'll give somebody a chance to and Casey's not none of them and I do I will say Casey has been a lot more entertaining without her big brother group around of the season are friends well the man's here I don't know if he could talk to that or not Troy says even if I'm rooting for KiKi stuff the stuff that Troy fella we are speaking the same language so yeah so they do go into the arena here and then with this Arena obviously well it's an interesting one they've got to move puzzle pieces from one side to the other over an obstacle there was two players obviously we talked about the rock paper scissors we talked about the fact that Danny and Tori had to take one for the team but it was always going to be Tristan and kellyanne that are going to go down there and the fact is one thing I think you were you were frozen out of the podcast what I spoke about and I'd like to hear your opinion about it

57:34 What did you think of the scene just before they went into the arena with kellyanne obviously doing her best to whip up the votes get numbers which I think she was right you know Tristan is sitting on his high horse saying oh you know kellyanne should calm down you know this is not the time to alienate people and she's like I know these people don't talk like I know what I'm doing kind of thing yeah I feel like she was just going for broke they were always going in and sitting back was not going to do anything at least have a swing at it right Kuda she's trying to spin into gold and she didn't have a she didn't have much to play with so she yeah out of desperation she tried what she could and it may have come off as abrasive to thing but there's no other options here she had to do something and doing nothing guarantees you go into the arena not and doing something maybe gives you that one percent chance or I mean less really with the numbers they were looking at like it was always going to be I think them heading down really with Kiki and Darrell already in that position there was no one else that could have like who are you gonna yeah there was no one else really so it had to be Tristan and kellyanne I think and she's trying and I admire that you've got to take your shot because there's no point in just sitting there and waiting for it to come to you I don't know if Tristan's like yeah he's probably a genuinely nice

58:54 Guy or if it's that English British thing where like you can't you know you gotta you know be extra nice to people but there was nothing they could do she took a shot it missed and she's they're in the arena now for those that listen to the draft that I did with angel cake Drew and chatel from reality realness you would know that I was a bit low on and I think all of us were low on kellyanne coming into this season when we did our draft and we picked it quite late in it and a reason for that was because we had such high hopes for her in the first couple of All-Star Seasons similar to like Darrell you know they kind of fell down our picking wood off people that we would pick because we just felt like maybe they can't keep up with the new game and the way that it's moving and I think kellyanne similar to Darrell this stocks to use your famous Survivor Power Rankings lion this stocks are rising for me in the challenge world like Kalyan gets a call back in my mind just based on the passion she has for the show the fight she has in her to continue to push forward even when she's in the corner things didn't go away this season but I wouldn't hate seeing kellyanne on a future season again it was to the point where you know it's just it's the pointy end of the game here she lost numbers due to injuries and sickness and things like that it was very nice touch of her to go and collect some flowers or plants I don't even know if that could qualify as flowers

1:00:15 With the little cupcake to celebrate Tristan's birthday and leave him a note there and it was a sweet moment to see even though they had different approaches to the game I prefer Kelly Ann's not Tristan's laid back sit back approach I think he was lucky to win a season like that on the UK which was one of the shortest Seasons we've ever seen with the fuse contestants on it I think this was a steep learning curve for Tristan if that if he does get the call back to come in the future Kahuna he's gonna have to come with more fire under his belly like I don't know like there's promise there but I don't know if he gave us enough to justify the Callback yet yeah I mean I don't I don't know he hasn't really his biggest storyline is that he got really sick and was nearly gonna go home like you know that's not great and he was potentially that was the big Cliffhanger will Tristan go home because he's too sick to compete oh no he pulled through and actually won the trivia like he's shown that he's capable obviously he's got the smarts he winning the trivia he didn't do well in the counting thing in that first thing up but he's shown that he's capable when with a with a good partner like I said they're the only team that won two dailies which is a pretty big deal when so many people it spread out across you know the competition so he's got the capabilities but he's not giving much as far as the TV side of it goes and

1:01:35 Wanted to avoid drama wanted to stay out of you know things like that and that's not what TV producers look for I don't think well Troy here says in the Life yes Darrell and I are still talking I would say we have friends that's awesome to hear Troy because there are seems like a really genuine down sort of person as well so and I also think he's a great mentor for new players that come into the game I mean he had that opportunity to Mentor Ember who's now fan favorite as well Kiki is definitely in my opinion becoming a fan favorite as well he's again you know even though she's won before there's still a big difference in experience and I think that she would have taken a lot away from working with him this season so again he's like this great mentor figure that's still like even if that is his role in The Challenge moving forward but I do hope he's got to win in him and I do hope that it's with Kiki this season and maybe shouting for them at this stage more than anyone else Chris is saying always better to go out swinging here but I've read that one troy Cullen love it because he's still friends with Darrell I love Kiki since the first episode 100 yeah I think that for me just coming into the seasons the reason I picked this so quickly as my number one draft female pick which is still in the game just calling it out she could still win as my number one draft female pick you know I went for the fences and I feel good about that pick no name is saying I hope Darrell and Kiki make it to the finals

1:02:55 And win Troy 2 but Theo and Emily hasn't won yet either would be interesting for someone new to win agreed and I was sleeping on Theory that's actually a question I was going to ask you Kona do you think we're sleeping on Theo because Theo's getting very close to the end here and I mean he came second in what was seen as the toughest Final in challenge history in War of the Worlds losing to an absolute Frick of a human being in Turbo could he still win this thing with Sarah who's no slouch herself yeah absolutely I think I mean the six teams that we have left after this Arena elimination is just a murderous row I could see any of them absolutely winning a final as far as getting to that final the numbers I mean it's on the other side when you've got via Sarah in a alliance with Danny and Tori who's in the alliance with Jordan and Casey like Darrell Kiki Emily yes it's not looking good for them I don't think to get there I'm like they have to win their way in I think next couple episodes is going to be back into the sand for both of them or for kicking Darrell which is disappointing I want to see everyone like I don't know I don't like the skulls thing that we had a few seasons ago necessarily because it didn't play out well but I appreciated the effort to make

1:04:15 People go in and like win your way to the final I like the reason the skulls thing the reason the skulls theme didn't work and I'm a little bit off topic but it's what we do here on the podcast the reason the skulls theme didn't work is because there was no consequences to not going in until the end you could just wait until the last round then go and go get your skull so it was still in your benefit to try and postpone it what they should have done is at any point in the game TJ should have just been like well Purge you six so don't have a skull you're out of the game these people are in the final now then the next season there would have been consequences you know what I mean otherwise they just gamed it too easily but I agree with you I think they had a good idea but they ended up blowing it up because there was no consequences so yeah like it Emily yes I mean against that six those are the five teams sorry Theo is a monster like he looks like he could absolutely win any final but you could go down the list and say that about any of them when it comes to what a finals made up of like even like there's no Hall rules in a final right so a Troy and a Casey are perfectly made for an endurance final that sort of thing you know what I mean like Kaz and Jordan I mean Jordan is you know you can't say anything so yeah Theo looks

1:05:36 Like he could be slept on but the rest of the competition is immense as well so yeah all I'm going to say to this Christina is if Danny is saying that he's there for the money and Kiki he said that it's hard for both of them for separation I'm just gonna say a Kiki you better be training because Bloodlines too man like you're gonna be out there with Danny like it's happening we're getting we're getting we're getting the battle of the Kikis on Bloodlines too you know I don't know Kiki's bringing with her but you know challenge Kiki that would get confusing challenge Kiki and Danny's Kiki both on the same season but I'd love to see you know since she's a fan of the show you know Danny's Kiki that is you know get her get on Bloodlines too I reckon it'll be fun and we haven't had Bloodlines forever so I'm there for it let's try that theme okay we do need to talk about this elimination you know what did you think of it I thought it was it was a to me it was again it felt a little bit run down it's like it wasn't the biggest spectacle compared to some of the eliminations that we've seen this season a lot of teamwork obviously required a lot of calm heads needed to be prevailed like the most entertaining part of this whole elimination to me was Kiki and Darrell's commentary of it to be honest the tangerines yeah about them both just getting yeah tangerines and you know being good at the puzzle and just the

1:06:56 Whole you know I was getting mad at Kiki and I'm sure Kiki was yeah the Kiki's like yes I wanted to swear to you know like just their relationship and how open and the friendliness and the funniness the jokiness about it that was the best part of the elimination for me the rest of it was pretty straightforward pretty bland I mean it was impressive from both Kiki and Darrell to come back from behind after they were struggling in the beginning I think this was kind of almost like the polar opposite of the daily in that the daily was all Flash and all form over function it looked good but in reality it didn't work that well it was too fast no variance no real challenge for a show called The Challenge whereas this one was communication was key it was a lot more technically difficult to actually figure out how to work together getting up over the thing while you know Tristan and kellyanne were saying six foot four versus five foot four proved its own challenge in and of itself so it was a little bit more technically difficult and I appreciate forcing the competitors to work well and communicate and we saw Kiki and Darrell both of them taking a lead and calling what they needed to do at different times depending on what was needed and really that communication is what got them over the line so I do appreciate the fact that the elimination was a little bit more technically sound there was more difficulty

1:08:16 To it there was more challenge to it you had to actually figure it out and get into that Groove which eventually found it just wasn't as visually appealing as what we're come to hope for in a challenge like this there was no big hits and you know Falls and all that it was just holding sticks like carrying bricks which doesn't look good but is incredibly difficult I'm sure yeah and I think that height difference between you know kellyanne and Tristan definitely came into play it was something that they clearly struggled with there and Kiki now is undefeated I think what's this four eliminations now if you look at her Australian record going into eliminations as well so she's doing extremely well in these eliminations and Darrell you know winning a couple getting that confidence back the Darrell of all being back like you know you'd be a brave man to bet against them the only fear I've got for them is there's no one really in the game that is looking out for them right now who's protecting them who's going to keep them out of the Arena next week so I wouldn't be surprised if the battle of the Emily and Kiki happens next week if she doesn't win the swimming challenge out right because a deal was struck Emily and yes is on the outside Kiki and Darrell are both on the outside and we know that this whole storyline this whole season that have been building up between Kiki and Emily Kiki beat Emily in the arena

1:09:36 There's a grudge match happening round two in a heavyweight knockout do you think it's happening next weekend is like the stars are lighting is that where we're going I mean I hope so it would be great unfortunately like the only way Emily loses a massive swimming challenge like that is if yes is just a rock like literally like an anchor on her because Emily is a literal dolphin and I think as far as the Transformers tie in promotion they could have made her like a transform into some sort of shark creature that can swim very fast that would be a really good time for Emily and as I said on the opposite end yes could just transform into an anchor and just drag her down but I mean that'll be great Kiki is an absolute boss I love Kiki and she's shown that she is like this as I said this elimination was more technical more skill based a lot of communication a lot of teamwork but then her first one to get into the house at the start of the season was a freaking pole wrestle right and she shows that she has all of it she can do puzzles she's got endurance she'll get on a bike and rip off her g-string if it's getting in the way right that's what that's what Kiki does and I hope she gets a chance to really shine and like someone said before she's the MVP of the season if she's not into the main cast or

1:10:56 Brought back for other spin-offs whatever it is then it's an absolute waste of a hidden talent here because she looks the way she looks and she performs the way she performs and there's not often that total package comes onto a show like this and she's amazing and she's got personality like I mean it's like it can't get better it's like she's got all the elements you know production sunk a lot of money into the Australian franchise that didn't necessarily pay off on the Australian TV shows and I don't know if they if they ended up with a loss due to that or not but you want to get if Kiki is what comes from that if Troy is what comes from that you know if we get these and I mean if you like or dislike Emily she's she's a force and I do think we could see Emily back I think there's a reason we saw that whole comment about or maybe they wanted to kill Emily's you know whole career by putting her confessional out there that's it don't show me rolling and passing out because my mom won't allow me to come back on you know things like that I do think Emily brings something to the show she's she's a competitor so I mean if between the three of them like I wouldn't hate seeing any of those three come back to a regular season because they would bring something to the show you know and I'm really excited to see how it's going to end for Troy this season we spoke about it a little bit off here with Troy and that and the only travesty for me so far this season has been not seeing enough of troying the confessionals not seeing his personality

1:12:17 Shine out on the confessionals not seeing enough of her side of why things are being done and obviously now being partnered with Casey as well he's getting a little bit of content but I think Casey and her alliance with the vacation Alliance the big main alliance with the main show that's kind of going to always take the front seat to Troy's own perspective being shown on the show so but I really hope that all three of them do make it over that would be my vote for the MVPs too you know if we know Sarah and Danny is not going to be interested and I don't know where Ben's mind's at the moment then that's my hope that we see them get over to the main show but I think this is pretty much everything that we can cover here for this episode let's read a couple more comments here before we finish off the show Joanne welcome to the live I know you got in a little bit late tonight but you know it was last minute so you could be forgiven there's only this time only this time no joke we love you anyways even if you watched it after the live that's all fine let us saying in comparison to The War of the Worlds and finals probably this final's probably easy for Theo I agree Chris agrees that it wasn't a spectacle I like the way you needed to legit strategy for the task it was a nail biter Kiki said the sticks were heavy yeah that could play I mean they had to go back and forth a lot over that as well and you kind of have to like extend your arms out so I'm sure that's not easy to do Christina's saying I think that dryboard content I was going to say another funny part of the Arena

1:13:37 Was when they were in there and like Tori and Danny I like talking to each other and they're like we can't even shop for the same team in the arena like we've got like different teams that we want to win so they're such a hot mess team but I do love the fact that they acknowledge it and they can still be cordial with each other outside of that and they're like hey outside of the game we're probably friends but in the game we just can't see eye to eye on anything well they even said use this as a strategy she was like the fact that we're cheering for opposite teams whichever one comes back we might have a little bit of credit with them so that was interesting as well yeah might it might as well make a bad situation and do a good one right before Danny Camp says Emily and yes didn't win the last swim challenge because of yes wasn't it Wes who said that you're only as fast as your partner that's true Chris says we are in desperate need of Personality on the main show please bring on people who are fun and want to compete I agree 100 and don't bring in Bland recruits that will just do whatever the Vets say like we I think this season has proven it like we don't need that I'm gonna say that statement was funny all right so we got to the end here of this live thank you so much for everybody you tuned and I know it was later than usual we'll try and be back at a better time this weekend at I haven't spoken to kuna about this yet but we might do a live on Saturday evening over in the US of kuna's time and my time both sort of Alliance you should be good with that yep

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