Survivor 43: Episode 11 Review ft Coach Drew

0:00 Foreign [Music] [Music] foreign [Music] [Music] welcome back to the nullify Tech channel here on YouTube we've got the TNT takes for you on Survivor 43 episode 11 that's right I'm your host Chris and I'm very pleased to welcome a friend of the podcast today to the channel someone that I thought to have already been on the channel but we just realized coach Drew this is your debut appearance here on the nullify take how are you doing I'm doing well man thank you for having me I'm

1:20 Yeah I was actually surprised that I hadn't been on before just because we had talked about last season over in mind but yeah I'm glad to finally be a be a co-host on here and a guest yeah well we're very happy to have you here also welcome Jake my fellow co-hosts for Survivor 43 Jake how you doing good just dealing with some finals for University so it's getting a little crazy but I will be done soon thank the Lord yeah we're nearly there it's nearly it's like the final stretch of the year now before we get to have a bit of an interview break do you guys get like a proper break in the U.S towards the end of the year do you get like a couple of weeks off work at least because I know the stigma The Stereotype for the rest of the world is that Americans don't get any leave I don't know if you're aware of that so we get Christmas Eve and Christmas pretty much every job gives those days off but other than that no I work at a university so I get three weeks off oh that's good yeah that's well that's good if you work for a university I think then you get proper breaks it's the same over here as well but they'd always find it funny because I've Got Friends Drew who you know they are lecturers at universities and they still complain that they don't get enough leave

2:43 Every year I'll take my three weeks and call it a day yeah also welcome you to the live stream J.E saying that he is excited by this one coaches here the same one not the Survivor one so the one that's got all the hot takes years here today with us and also is Christian gal saying hey dudes he says the gameplay is average with the cast just saying we'll talk about that it's a bit of a hot take to start off there coach Drew what has been your biggest hot take so far you reckon this season what a sort of landed maybe like a lead balloon in the community when you said this is your hot take for the season I don't know if it's a necessarily a hot take but I mean I'm on these reddits and then the Twitter and all that and you know people like to talk very horribly about the season one person even said it was the worst season ever which obviously is just not true because Island the idols exist but I will say that you know the cast is pretty good I have enjoyed a lot of the characters that we've had this season yeah the gameplay might not be what the fans want but the characters that we're getting I feel like makeup for some of the lack in gameplay I consider this to be more of an old school type season which is all right we can

4:03 Get those every now and then the fact that we have an old-school type season with all of these advantages is kind of insane so yeah my hot take I guess would be I don't hate the season and I actually really enjoy the cast well over here that's the take that myself and Jake agrees with like we're both here yeah we've we both have been enjoying the season and I think that a lot of this Jake comments about the cast not being good and maybe overplaying and maybe not reading things correctly I've been critical at times as well of the cast I think of some of the game moves that have been made but wouldn't you agree Jake a lot of this and I know we sound like a broken record it's down to the fact that we just continue to throw so many game breaking mechanics into the game which doesn't allow people to organically play the game anymore yeah it's just the game can get broken by these things like and I feel like the cast sometimes like overthinks about like whoa but what if this happens next round I gotta make sure you know that I've got everything in order and just in case and it's like let's chill you know let's keep it you know let's keep it simple and also even if the gameplay isn't that great like that isn't very indicative of a great season necessarily like some of the best seasons have that's a very fair

5:23 Point pretty it's the characters the gameplay yeah exactly yeah like I mean coach Wade wasn't necessarily a mastermind strategist he came back to playing South Pacific and it was a lot better but we fell in love with him when he was the crazy man doing all the crazy stuff out there and similar to this season we've had a very big character maybe a larger than life character and gabler play this season coach Drew what is your thoughts been on the Gambler of it all you know where he started the evolution of Gambler to where he is now what do you are you high on this guy or not what are you sitting on so at the beginning of the season I didn't think gabler had any chance and Hell of doing anything this season you know and then as the seasons progress I'm like okay that's a wholesome Moment by Gabe where there's this in the back of my head I'm like it's going to end up going to Jonathan from 42 territory of there's going to be a moment where I just kind of snap and just don't like him anymore it hasn't happened yet but I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop but you know right now I think that out of the six people six I think he's my least favorite but I still think that he's a fun character I'm fairly certain that he's going to sit at the end and get no votes because no one is saying his name but not because he has good relationships with him I think it's just because

6:45 It's funny because Jesse and gabler are the only two people who've not had votes against the massive yet in this game and that just blows my mind that I mean Jesse has been the player of the season right he is clearly the one that's pulling the strings or the editors definitely showing us his game more than anyone else's and then Gable on the other hand the crazy guy in the beginning the one that nobody thought were going to make it into the merge myself and Jacob at one point thought he was going to get Medevac he didn't he didn't want to play his Idol in the first game he wanted to play a shot in the dark like there was a lot of craziness happening from gabler and now he is one of the most sane people and it's setting up the storyline is being set up as we progress through the season as the gabler versus Jesse's show I mean at some point you're going to say who's going to take a shot at who but it's getting a little bit late now for him Jake Because by the end of this episode like coach Drew said there's six people left in the game there's three Idols still left in the game so I mean I don't know how Gable is going to pull this off yeah and as far as We Know correct me if I'm wrong Jesse still has Cody's Idol is that so maybe Cody's just like given up or forgotten about this Idol because you know if it's Jesse's now I guess he can just play both at final one at final six one at final five so the windows closing definitely no

8:05 One has any idea that Jesse has this Idol that you know Dwight gave him from Janine like crazy still craziness that happened I know last week I was saying I was super high on gabler because of the edit and I still kind of feel that way but also like when you think about it from a gameplay standpoint it is starting to feel less and less probable because I just don't think so I'm starting to think about the Maneuvers and I'm just not exactly sure what he could do yeah MJ Lancer welcome to the live saying finally called one of these lives yeah we've been moving times around quite a bit depending on who we're talking to so glad that we could be live at a time that you could be here but we also appreciate everybody that listens to this afterwards on any of the audio platforms or watches the videos at a later stage please consider liking and subscribing as well when you see this because it does help with the YouTube algorithms JC's here hot take if Gable wins the season it becomes the greatest newbie season ever now for me personally for me personally got me personally it'll always be kagean I don't think that gabler winning here would for me beat Kar gayan but I will say that it would be definitely a memorable season coach Drew we spoke about that last week because you

9:26 Know a big problem with some of these newer Seasons now I feel like is that it's harder to remember the people who are playing it's harder to remember the seasons because it's also now just generic 41 42 43 so you know 15 Seasons from now how do we remember 43 of Gambler doesn't win yeah and it sucks because like I said earlier I feel like all 41 through 43 have had memorable characters and they've had memorable moments but because they're just given such a horrible title you know people shouldn't put stock into the titles but we do when we think gaboon we think you know Dr Bob we think sugar when we think when you say 41 it's like all right which one was that and you were like once you start to remember like oh yeah that's the one with Xander and Shan and all that it's like okay that makes sense but it's unfortunate and I will say that you know doing when I did 42 and 42 over the summer I started to realize that as I hit the 40s of once I hit 41 it's like yeah I don't feel like any of these characters are memorable outside of their outside of their season and I don't I only want to see them play with other people from the 40s I don't want to really see them play from with them playing with anyone from like 37 36 it's weird it's weird

10:46 Yeah it's interesting and I also think it's because currently it is kind of a little bit and it saddens me to say this because I don't want to be on that train of people that keep saying that it's a watered down version of Survivor compared to what it used to be but it is it's less days it's you know it just feels like Jeff has gone through the motions and Tribal Council these days as well he's not really asking hard-hitting questions he's not really getting the best out of them and for me coach the tribal councils have become really boring like it's not live tribal councils right now and I'm saying this I'm still enjoying the season I'm still enjoying Survivor and I'll always watch Survivor but tribal councils have become a bit of a snooze face it's like the least interesting part of the game right now yeah it's I watched it at a bar this past weekend and I had so I had walked up with subtitles because it was very loud in there and I kind of just zoned out until I saw them get up to start voting because it I knew that nothing was going to matter that was being set there now it turns out there was a few things that happened that you know I had to go back and watch saying okay that's cool but in the end you know the most important tribal moment this season that has happened you know while sitting there is Ellie not getting the idol right like yeah Capital camera so

12:07 Yeah it's really it has not been memorable from a tribal council standpoint and it's quite ironic because with so much advantages with the knowledge's power with all these different things that are now coming into play you would think that these tribal councils would be a lot more live you would think that a lot more happened we will talk about this episode specifically because I think Sammy tried with the knowledge of his power a little bit and he tried to you know make lemonade out of lemons or whatever that saying is you know he tried to do something with nothing in this episode but let's get into the episode a little bit here it started off pretty rough for Sammy because you know up until last week I thought maybe a week or two ago I was like Sammy still has a chance and then suddenly it just started going Bank down and he was playing a dangerous game myself and Jake talked about the fact that he's been playing the middle ground and it's either going to work out beautifully for him or as soon as somebody sees it they're going to cut their head off the snake because you know you can't have a player like this who is dangerous who can flip-flop back and forth still in the game and in this one he called it wrong he thought Noel was gonna you know stay in the game and he ended up voting for Carla and he has to do damage control coach what did you think of the scene with everybody getting back into camp and them calling Sammy out and how he handled it as a whole well I mean I know that everyone is now saying oh yeah he was very clearly 19 in this episode because of the way especially the his vote out confessional I

13:28 Feel like he handled it as best he could in the situation he didn't he didn't try to attack anyone he even tried to throw someone under the bus when they're I think it's him and Carla laying there and he's asking who was the first person to do it and he's like not me it was what did he say Cassidy okay Cassidy and either they Linger on them looking at each other for a bit there which I thought was a fun little production thing but one of many in this episode I knew it was pretty much game over from for Sammy that just based off of how this season's been going where if they show someone being like it might be done for them that's usually the person that goes home this season in the episode and they don't really try to throw you off too much it's like okay yeah this person's bottom yeah okay so Sammy it wasn't I actually thought they were going to set us up for him to actually successfully play a shot in the dark same yeah and so when they showed not safe I'm like wow they've really built that up and also because his edit this season has been one of the biggest edits as well like they've constantly gone back to him he's constantly been shown like we've seen his strategy where the show hardly ever gives players this level of respect and showing their gameplay when they're not

14:48 The winner of the Season you know what I mean so I kind of felt like it was setting up to be a big move but obviously it didn't happen at the end of this but Jake what did you think of you know semi trying to diverse sort of divert the attention to Cassidy here and do you think that this could still mean the end of Cassidy in the future because it does look like by the end of this episode Carla does not fully trust Cassidy so something did stick in her head I think that Sammy kind of you know obviously he's got to do something because he was he knew he was about to be dead in the water but I think he got he almost got lucky with he because he had no idea that you know Carla told Cassidy about her Idol so I think he just got kind of lucky that there was a weird little you know you know itch in Carla's head that he happened to like kind of irritate by bringing up Cassidy's name and that almost resulted in him being saved but you know I just I just really respect that you know like he even saw the writing on the wall at Travel Council was like you know I'm not done yet like let me you know I'm playing my shot in the dark he even announced it which pissed people off as we'll talk about but he you know let's talk about it now since it's up like since it's up we'll talk about it you know then we don't have to edit to the end of the episode but he plays knowledge his power or he tells everybody he's going to

16:08 Play it in advance you know and people are like you know why are you doing it's disappointing but he holds Carla to that and he says why is it disappointing like why like if you're truly with me my vote should not matter in this way coach what did you think of this gameplay by Sammy are you for it against it looked like the jury was really loving what he was doing yeah I was all for Sammy doing it because he's he was aware enough to know that things that were probably not going to go my way tonight and I like the way that he handled when people were starting to say oh well basically trying to guilt-trip him into not doing it's like well sorry guys one I know my name's on the Block but two like you said earlier if you guys are really with me like you've been saying then this should matter and it's more and I'm not gonna knock the people for getting upset because they're also trying to manipulate the kid and I'm glad to I'm glad that he was able to stick to his guns and to say you know what even if even if y'all are with me I'm gonna do this now and I'll just deal with it when we get back to Camp which we he has shown he can for a 19 year old kid can deal with a lot of that Fallout so I think he was thinking well if it does go my way yes these people are gonna be pissed off but screw them let's get back and then we'll you know we'll go from there because now we'll check the deck is reshuffled again and

17:28 I might not even be the target next time yeah he probably thought you know survivors like the high tide and the low tides you can never predict you know when the high tide is going to come and the low tide is going to go right Jake it's always in flux Jeff that is a your Jeff bringing up that analogy of tribal like I'm sorry isn't the whole point of Tides that they are predictable that they know what the tides are gonna be why it seems like it's a theme this season that he has to find some analogy which has always kind of been a thing in recent Seasons but specifically this one like you said earlier he's just not asking hard-hitting questions and this is like the first tribal where like you know when Sammy's talking about the shot in the dark it's like the first thing first time something memorable has happened in a long time I me and my dad watch together every week and we almost skipped tribal because we both talked about how like nothing ever happens they just talk about some analogy and everyone gets their turn of like bringing their but did you find it did you find it funny though Jack that as soon as he brings up the analogy like all the costs have to be like you know they all have to talk about it they all have to make sure they keep jiv happy they've got to talk about the higher the low tide put it back into their game I just find it

18:49 Hilarious you know by now it's just funny for me to watch and like listen Jeff is trying coach what's happened here with Jeff what is what has happened with this guy like he was used to be and I still think he is one of the best hosts ever I mean you've got to respect the fact he's got into 43 Seasons but I feel like he's going in a different direction I don't know if while I was doing 42 and 42 I basically broke it down like the Jeff the Jeff character as it changes so like the first few seasons he's very much just Jeff he's just the guy that's there and you know then it becomes Jeff the kind of annoying host that just says outlandish stuff because I'm untouchable I'm Jeff Courtney why are you anorexic it's like all right dude relax then we get into the next phase of Jeff where you know he's antagonizing people during tribals and you know asking questions that really don't matter and is trying to you know lead things a certain way and now we are in the Jeff is a meme and knows that he's a meme phase of his career where Jeff reads the internet he absolutely does and he sees what people have been saying about him especially during lockdown everyone re-watching Survivor and they're all tweeting about him he's gonna go back and he's gonna try to change it's almost like he's

20:09 Trying to Pander to everyone so that everyone loves him and the easiest way to do that is by just becoming the meme the Jeff Meme and so that this is the Jeff meme Arab and I'm depends on the episode for me or whether I like it or not listen Jeff's Jeff I'm always gonna like Jeff I'm a little bit worried about the fact that he seems to sometimes not have a personality anymore and I think you kind of heard it on the head of the fact that you know like stand for something Jeff you know stand for something don't be you can't please everyone you're gonna piss someone off down the line and I think that we live in a society now where people are so afraid of you know pissing each other off and it's okay like listen I've got family members I don't always agree with on everything and it's okay they're still family members you know I might only see them once every now and again but you know ever have I guess he needs to hold people accountable a little bit more instead of going down this track but I do want to read a couple of the comments there's a few interesting comments that's coming since we've spoken about the episode Jay here says Cody still knows about the knowledge his power or still believes the knowledge of power could potentially be a thing that's why he's not given it back to Jesse and it I mean you never know who's got what in the game he also says that he's worried about the future of the show because this past episode and the episode before what's the lowest rated episodes ever I continue to see that being a thing online where

21:29 People talk about that and yes it is worrying right it is worrying but one thing I wish that they would put out there as well and I've said this a few times is how many how many people are watching it afterwards I watch it afterwards on Paramount plus you know what I mean so I think that we've we're seeing a new age of supporters and people who are following the show that just don't watch it live anymore because you know we've gotten used to Netflix we've gotten used to streaming shows on demand like the whole culture has changed now where you maybe have something to do at 7 30 p.m I don't know when it plays over in the States but you might have something to do at that time you're out playing squash or you're socializing so you come back afterwards and you then watch the show right coach so I don't know if I could take to the bank just the live viewership numbers I think that they take everything into account and look at people who stream it afterwards yeah well I mean it's not Survivor Australia where 40 plus million people are watching the show that's not going to happen with any show that's on now shows don't have that many people watching them now because like you said the streaming the art of streaming has changed things so that people don't watch things live unless you have to watch them like sports and even then people still go back and watch sports after the fact so I try not to put much stock into who's watching it live in the numbers also survivor's been around long enough where I feel like they have

22:49 All ironically immunity I feel like I feel like they are immune from oh now we gotta cancel Survivor now after 44 Seasons I think that when Survivor goes off it's going to be on their own terms I just think that the show costs less to make now than ever before especially these days yeah I was gonna I was gonna bring up Christian girl saying you know I need to go back to 39 days I still believe that as well but one of the things one of the things I've realized through because I was very hard on that right season 41 42 I was like how dare they go to 26 days we got to see 39 days and what I've realized is by the third season I'm softening on it a little bit and I'm like you know what I'm still Survivor it's still Survivor you know but the one thing that I don't like is the fact that because we've gone to 26 days we need to go out of our way to starve these people now speed everything up throw a lot of people throw a lot of advantages in there because my thinking is give them enough food to be entertaining like I don't want them to be eating luxuriously I don't want them to gain weight while they're out there but what's wrong with having enough rice just so they can think of strategy or be a bit more animated at Tribal Council you know what I mean like I feel like that also adds to the fact that we kind of see these people just withering away and Jeff in this episode admitted that some of the old school stuff is better I mean he brought a challenge back in

24:09 The immunity Challenge and he said well we're throwing it back to old school back when things were tougher but it was more tough you know and I'm like didn't you say this was the most difficult version of somebody you're contradicting yourself right coach hey oh yeah we're gonna bring it back to when we used to try to kill you guys and then in that same breath ah you guys have been out here long enough we're just gonna we're gonna call it there it's like what you can't you can't say you're gonna bring this back to try to kill you know quotations and then immediately call it for time you know because it's getting too darker because of the tide okay the tide went away sorry just let them sit there someone's eventually going to come up it might take six to seven hours afterwards but someone's gonna eventually come up now I understand you have to speed it up because of tribal and everything but it's good TV watching two people breathe through a little gate is actually good TV I got my friends at the bar to watch that they had no idea what was going on it was just fun yeah they're like this is insane what are they doing to these people they're torturing them but Jake do you reckon that you know Carla and Owen has now broken this game and we won't see this coming back in the future because this is insane this is unprecedented I mean for someone like myself who watch International Survivor and the US Survivor I've seen this also in Australian Survivor I've

25:29 Seen this also in Survivor South Africa there has been times especially in survivors of Africa where I legitimately thought someone was going to drown and for them to actually get through this to write out the whole high tide and going back down to low tide and for this game to be broken basically I feel like we don't see this challenge again because they didn't have a tie breaker in mind they were not supposed to break this I think that you kind of mentioned it right there I think if they were to do it again they're going to find some sort of tie breaker some sort of follow-up afterwards or what they can do is they can just bring the bar even lower and so they can basically guarantee that somebody's gonna you know there's only gonna be one person at the end of this because I think that maybe they like underestimated or I guess overestimated the tide I guess it didn't go as high as they thought it was or something they didn't like get the length quite right I'm not sure but still just crazy from Owen and Carla to do that yeah I've got so much respect for them so much respect coach like I mean yes frustrated to see that they pull this thing and they don't get a winner because I know that Americans are very similar to myself we don't like draws we like to see someone win and

26:49 This was a draw you know and that's why football in America I don't think is as big or soccer in other places as in other countries because we're frustrated with zero games or one games right but yeah again like I said I mean massive credit should go to them because they stay down there for a very long time and I think there must have been a fear of like hypothermia or something like that taking place with them being in the water as long as they were because the tide going down I think what Jeff and why he called it was the challenge is holding your breath it's not just staying underneath this bar and holding on and there was no danger of them you know going or submerging under the water with the low tide coming in so that I don't know how long it would have taken the next high tide might have only been the next day so I mean like how long would you have them out there so I mean I understand it sucks to pull the game but hats off to both of those players for winning yeah so I mean for me looking at it wasn't it was an interesting challenge I think they have to bring a tie breaker and if they do bring it back in the future but how about Cody and you know the whole thing about getting the message going out finding this Advantage running around in Camp and then the advantage for once we've been saying it for a very long time they make it too easy for people to find advantages these days they finally listened to the online community and

28:10 They put it in this you know Satchel or this little pouch that looks like the tree and everybody kept walking past it how golden was it to see Sammy needing an advantage standing right next to it his face is right next to the tree it's right next to him but no one can see this did you find this entertaining coach seeing them because normally it can be a little bit boring seeing people run off and go and full advantages but how did you feel about this advantage and how did you feel about the way that it was hidden this time well at first I thought okay it's not gonna be the first person and I'm gonna be annoyed that I wasn't the first person it's gonna be the second person then the second person doesn't find it and then it becomes fun because then it's like a guessing game of who's going to actually find it and that Scene goes on for a bit and it just keeps oh yeah this is it like they're finally gonna find it and they'll like turn and walk the other direction it's like wow okay no one's actually finding this thing and I was watching with friends and they kept saying well aren't they you know aren't the cameraman I'm like the cameramen are there to mess with you they have many camera people there they're filming all different directions you can't pay attention to a random shot that they have so when it did end up being Cody that finds it I'm like well he's gonna quickly get caught then right because yeah and then he doesn't and to top it all off picks

29:30 The right person and this season where there is no real challenge Beast he just he guesses Owen and you know I thought that was move of the episode even though that was just guesswork it was just guessing yeah it shows you how well he knows the people because it basically gave him a little bit of a clue to say who would deal while Under Pressure who would deal while being in this I think he knew exactly what the challenge was going into it so he had to think about that and then he was like okay well Owen seems to be someone that's good Under Pressure which to me was shocking Jake because whenever we see Owen on our screens he's always frustrated about not getting his way and not being in power right like he seems like this kid that's like well I'm not going to win even when Gabriel comes sermon says you know I still got a plan to get us to the top three he's like well you can take me there I'm not going to win and he feels really frustrated about the fact nothing is going his way but clearly when it comes to the challenges there must be a calmness that comes over him or something and Cody read that yeah I think that also maybe Cody saw well we targeted him targeted him before and he pulled out a clutch immunity forget which episode I think that was what you mean got voted out and so maybe he thought oh this is the you know same type of situation you know he's he once again voted incorrectly and he's just super frustrated so he's going to go all out to

30:51 Try to keep himself safe but yeah and I liked that they told that they told him what the challenge was because I was like this is completely useless if they don't so I was happy to see that not knowing what it is it could be anything could just be a puzzle could just be like who can hold like weight on their back you know obviously that's going to vary so I was glad that they told him about it yeah and he got lucky that it ended in a draw because might not have yeah I mean listen hats off to Carla I did not going into that I did not expect Carla to be one of the two people winning their challenge so she did an extremely good job and it shows you how much of you know how much heart she has for the show and how badly she wants to win this thing so I was really impressed Kahuna TV here in the live he is my co-host for the challenge Australia content says I'm not up to date so I won't hang around and be spoiled but just dropped in to say hello Kahuna hello hope you're doing well on the Sunday morning over there in Australia Jay here says apparently they were only able to do this challenge because they had access to a certain area in the Fijian ocean that has perfect conditions for the challenge makes sense because they haven't been doing it for a while so maybe previously they haven't had that access to do it Joe also says this is a good replacement for do or die question

32:11 Mark and I do think they should do it at the final 11 since the final 11 in the new era has been a boring boot episode that Ray reinforces the majority yeah and I mean the more people you have also I think in left in the game it sort of nullifies the power of this Advantage if the extra person gets immunity because there's still more options left because we ran a real big risk at the end of this coach of having another Surrey type of moment happening with Advantage again because you had three advantages or three immunity idols we had the shot and the dark being played from semi which could have made a fourth person immune and we had Cody also immune at this stage plus the two people that won the immunity so I mean that's like seven possibilities right there of outcomes that could have happened right and yeah they don't have a VLC for that because if all seven people are immune you can't you can't do anything they you know they can't go to fire because that's not fair to the people that are immune so they really lucked out honestly double elimination the next Tribal Council you say okay everybody goes home but next time just know you're going to be voting two people out yeah or that or they have like some sort of impromptu immunity challenge right there at Tribal Council like they've done that a few times like sometimes they'll do a double elimination

33:32 They'll vote someone out and then immediately Jeff is like okay you're about to do another challenge and it's like some trivia thing maybe it would be that but even then like we don't we shouldn't need that you know we should just be having things be as simple as possible one of the things I'm missing really missing at the moment and I think I've mentioned this before on the podcast but I miss a very simple immunity challenge where people have to guess who's the most likely person to be associated with a certain question you know like for instance who's the biggest goat left in the game and people write down gabler and he gets pissed off because of that you know like it just evokes emotion it gives people an idea of where they sit in the pecking order and at the moment I feel like they're all these frogs at a very hot pot of cookie talking water and they don't realize that they're being cooked right now you know unless you're Jesse or Cody who's clearly the Stephen Fishback and JT of the Season at this point unless they do get sniped before the end it's looking or even you could say the Dom and Wendell then it's another great deal they're in power right now coach I mean what should we see changed here for people to finally see that Jesse and Cody is sort of running it because it looks like Gable is the only person who's on to it yeah and we'll go back to your first point about how they should bring back they call it touchy subjects in the in the ore Community but

34:52 Yeah I feel like San Ramon Del Sur kind of broke that challenge because they tried to rig it for Missy to win and I think they kind of caught on to like hey maybe we shouldn't do this anymore because now they're just doing it because they know they don't want to hurt each other's feelings or whatever the case is having said that with six people left I feel like Jesse's still you know I feel like Jesse is well protected you know he I feel like even if someone did decide to come after him they would probably come after Cody first in which case he has two Idols to save himself and Cody or whatever the case is and you know people listen to Gambler because when it was him versus Ellie people believed him then Ellie got caught in a big lie and Ellie was my winner pick so that sucked so it's not like gabler doesn't have like any idea what's going on it's just all a matter of are these people are going like are these people going to buy into gabler yes or are they gonna hear what gabler has to say and just kind of still do what they feel they need is need to do to win the game in the end and it's going to be very frustrating for them because I would love for Jesse won it's gonna be really frustrating for them you know to sit

36:12 There and get Jesse to the end it's like well yeah that's very clear it's very clearly who was you know I probably want those Carla but it still could be yeah I mean you touched on something I want to explore a little bit here we like to do it on the podcast it's not necessarily reviewing the episode it's kind of looking into the future but you know if Jesse did win this season you said you would be high on that I would be high on that as well I think it would be pretty satisfying to see Jesse when an in a way where he kind of dominated a season for a chance because I feel like we haven't seen that in a while myself and Jake spoke about the fact that I don't want to take away from Mary annswin or from Erica's when I just like different flavor to my Seasons like I don't want the same winner to win season after season I like seeing an over-the-top winner I like seeing a behind the scenes strategic player playing a slower game but I like seeing the variety of this different gameplays of how do you get there and I still think Erica is a lot more dangerous than what people probably think because they just didn't really show a lot of her game so if she was able to come back she could be threatening and it'll be interesting to hear it take since you've watched that season more than once I haven't but you know looking at this of Jesse coming back to Jesse if Jesse wins this season where would you rate him like where would he at this stage based on what we've seen right now is he a middle tier winner bottom tier winner or a higher sort of touching towards the higher tier winners at this stage because he's been pretty dominating throughout

37:33 The season I would say that if Jesse wins this season at the on the trajectory that on the trajectory that he's on now it would be the most dominant first time when since whether like either Wendell if people say that Wendell was a dominant win and if not Wendell then Tony I feel like that would be the most recent dominant winner on all newbie season so I would put him up there with Windows above him Windows above him like I just want to say if some people say Wendell didn't have a dominant what do you what he was dominant I agree with you but you know you gotta yeah but I would I would put him with Wendell and Tony as far as first time you know all newbie cast going out there and just basically running the table you know there's never really been a moment this season where it's like oh Jesse who's in trouble yeah just he's not Jesse's never and I can't say the same thing for gabler because honey Dwight like right in the beginning when he went against him Dwight was like I don't know if I should trust him that much but I mean that was it that was literally it was a blip on the right eye gave him the idol exactly yeah so what Gameplay at least at some point yeah well what's impressive to me and why

38:53 Bring this up is because when they go back from immunity to the camp there's a lot of talking happening between different people and they're like everybody's got their own plan you know Carla suddenly is willing to sacrifice Cassidy which is crazy to me this deep in the game but she's legitimately fearful that Cassidy is gonna get one over her and it's I mean how many times can Carla still play the idol as a top six or top five I think it's top six so literally there's the next episode she has to play it I think everyone has to play there's this episode yeah so I mean what's the point of trying to get Cassidy out so close to the end when literally you can only hold on to that Advantage for one more round and after that it doesn't even matter anymore because Cassidy can't come and Blindside you but she's willing to vote out Cassidy Gable Heroes of it he wants to do it he's also pushing for it Cody wants to push her at everybody it seems once Cassidy out and then who's the one person who turns the vote around it's Jesse and people are listening to Jesse because he's like well this is fearful or he's got fear towards this because if Carla is happy to vote out Cassidy what plan does she have cooking with Sammy potentially that could upset the apple card going into the end and Sammy is a threat and fire so he actually gets his weight that was impressive to see Jake seeing Jesse I mean I shouldn't be shocked because he's been doing it the whole season but again he's getting his way here and he's doing it in a way where he's listening to people he's hearing them out he's not talking

40:13 Over them and then he sort of injects his own idea and people all go with them it was what does this guy have he's got the Mist he does he's just really it's quite simple he's just a really good player I mean yeah he when he's talking to Owen and talking about like voting out Sammy and he I just loved when he was like he's like yeah I don't know why you've been out of the out of the loop it's that's like that sucks you know like was it because of me yeah it's like ah who could have who would have done that to you oh my gosh it's like bro like you've been part of that this whole time like and Owen totally fell for it he's like oh yeah Jesse like he's got my back like he wants me in on the boat so that was that was great and he just you know I had a bit of concern with him and Cody because it seemed kind of the opposite where a couple times Cody was like hmm I'd rather have like Dwight and then Jesse was like I'd rather have Noel and then Dwight end up going home but now it seems the opposite it seems that Jesse's now getting his way over Cody which is good and it makes more sense because Jesse just seems like a better player than I think purely what Jesse did earlier in the season was he was like okay Cody I'll give you this one because I

41:33 Know down the line there's going to be more important decisions to be made and then I can say listen I listen to you on this one you give me this one you know like I feel like Jesse is that level of player he's thinking a couple of steps ahead but very impressed by Jesse the other person in this deal is Cody coach Drew how do you feel about Cody's game going into the in-game here because there's also a large contingent of people online that believes Jesse is Omar of this season and he's going to get taken out before the end and Cody's going to win the season how would you feel on a Cody win where would that sit for you as a whole I would I mean Cody I feel like Cody's done enough things that I wouldn't the only person on the season that I would be like is gay boy if he were to win and I would still give him his props because he won Survivor which none of us have but she's like daveless played a better game than Owen though you got it you gotta admit like Owen has been on the outs the whole game and I don't this is coming you can ask Jake this is coming from a very big Owen fan like I mean I picked Owen first in my draft this season and I've been hoping and holding on to an Owen when I'm like come on Owen but I've got to admit it like gabler's played a better game than Owen at this point I think the Gambler played a really good game at the full merge ever since then that one immunity that he has but like it's not like he's being shown to be

42:54 Doing much but he's in the votes coach like this is this is my thing like he's in the both of us people are trusting him and they're coming to him where Owen just can't I mean like he said what is he's Charlie Brown he's constantly chasing but he's like that's a great Underdog Story if he gets to the end and you're next to gabler and so what you're saying what you're saying is you would prefer for earn to win over Gable but you're not necessarily saying that Owen has played a better game than gameplay no I don't think yeah I just yeah I don't think that Gambler has a chance at winning because I can't sit I can't see him sitting next to any other two people and beating them and I can see Owen Cassidy Carla all being able to do that against the two right people but back to Cody you know I feel like if Cody is sitting next to the two right people which is basically just not Jesse I think that he has a pretty good chance at pulling it off I think that he his hardest his hardest final three probably involve Carla but I feel like Jesse has that type of personality he's got Charisma I think that even if people did go in there trying to like bring him down a few pegs I think that he would do it but still keep you know his personality about him I don't think he's gonna you know just go straight down like this but I also don't think he's gonna go after it and like and try

44:14 To attack them back I think he'll keep his personality and just answer the questions if you like him cool if you don't cool so I if Jess or if Cody yeah if Cody wins it could be like Tommy or you know yeah Chris Underwood that was fine but first want to acknowledge to them and say hey y'all nice to meet you drew so coach Drew is from the Survivor Buffs Channel on YouTube he has a podcast on there called Survivor hot takes that he normally does so if you like Drew and you like what he's saying on here you resonate with that go check out the content on Survivor Buffs as well for coach Drew as well then he also says here Cody definitely fizzled out honestly he's been inquired for him to be a winner I think Cody still has enough positives around him and we haven't seen much negativity and just by proxy of being close to Jesse if Jesse gets taken out I think he gets the credit and they're like well we need to give it to that deal because they were playing the game probably the best up until that point so I still think based on that at this point if I had to guess I'd say he's the second most likely person to win after Jesse and we'll talk about the third person who's Carla very soon she's definitely still somewhat in the running but I think since the merch has gone pretty quiet as well the sad thing for me with Cody coach is that when the season started I was legitimately looking at coding I was like this guy has a massive character

45:34 Like he could be the next you know Philip Shepard in a good way or like the next coach or the next you know like one of these bigger than Life characters and then like zuderman said he's just fizzled out like an it's a little bit perplexed like I don't understand he started so well he was this big character and now it's he's almost not there he's just your he could be any Survivor you know I would he's not memorable anymore no and that's I started off not liking Cody because he was that type of character that I don't usually root for in these games and now he's you know now I just I care about him because he's still there but I'm not in any rush to get a Cody return after this and that's you know that's what two episodes left I think he could go ball to the wall the next two weeks and be the craziest person that's ever existed and then it's like I still don't like you but at least it's a character now like if you have to choose between Cody and roxroy you're going to choose rocks Roy every time because Rockstar is awesome [Laughter] on the same tribe coach I mean that's TV a match made in heaven I Cody you know Cody is just an another guy now but I do I

46:54 Do feel like fizzled out only in the character aspect I feel as far as gameplay is concerned I feel like Cody has still you know done relatively well so yeah and you know like Jay said he's a Salesman talkers talk as a talker I absolutely understand so yeah exudomania says I feel Carla can get to the end and win her and Jesse have winner type edits Owen has an underdog edit then everyone else is just there and yeah let's talk about Carla a little bit Jake how are you feeling about Carla coming into the end game here now Jay you know she has potentially turned on Cassidy here and I think not pulling the trigger is going to come back to Biden in the next episode because I feel like this has given Jesse some ammunition to continue to and we even see that on the next on Survivor episode there's probably going to be some divide and it looks like Jesse's trying to also do that with Owen and gabler so I mean it's some high tier gameplay happening here at the end game yeah I am I feel like the Gap is widening quite a bit for Jesse and Cody and then everyone else I do agree that Carla's probably that number three maybe Cassidy is also in that convo but yeah Carla has kind of been on a decline for a while although weirdly

48:15 Enough I still think she has a better chance that gabler who I was really I was really high on gabler last week like I just felt like his edit was starting to get a lot more like he needed to pull the games JC and Cody this episode If he if he win against Jesse and Cody and he could get the numbers like coach said but it's about getting the numbers and then I think that could have been his Marianne taking out Omar moment where people are like wow Gable to do that but yeah I'm worried for them as well and I was you know you also got to think about who is he going to sit next to like you know Gaylor I thought he was going to bring Owen and Sammy and everyone was going to say oh Sammy he's just you know flip-flop flip-flopper like he just you know yeah like just kind of seeing wishy-washy and obviously Owen just you know out of the loop the whole time and then gabler like I guess it's gabler you know that's like that's how I kind of I envisioned it going but at this point I'm just like I don't think he could be Carla I don't think he I don't even think he could be Cassidy Carla I think could be Owen and gabler I think she could even be maybe Cassidy so she's got a lot of she's got a way better chance than most people in the game but obviously one thing with two Idols one

49:35 Thing that keeps getting shown by the editors right and this is one of the reasons why a lot of people online have been upset about this season because so many women has gone and have left in quick succession right and the editors keeps showing the conversations with Carla where women are telling Carla we need two women at the end we need the woman to go deep and every time Carla does not follow through with that and Carla potentially is again not going to follow through with that when she votes out Cassidy I feel like Carla gets to the end and she gets eviscerated by the likes of Cassidy Janine Noel I can very easily see her get not many votes if any votes coach at the end I feel like that's his story it's gonna be the Mike Turner thing from last year where towards the end of that game I kept saying I hope Mike doesn't because at that point I was rooting for Marianne but I was like oh Mike doesn't go into final tribal and try to continue to portray himself as loyal and all of this because he hasn't been and one of my favorite moments from the final tribal is when everyone's coming after him and he has like this coming to God moment where he realizes oh my goodness I haven't been as loyal as I thought I had been and I feel like and I really liked Mike so like I really liked that moment for him and I'm afraid that's what's going to happen with Carla like you just mentioned where you know Carly keeps saying these things and then doesn't do them people

50:56 Hey do you do realize how that make makes us feel as you know as women or whatever it is it's similar to Shan going after who wasn't in Sean in 41 where it's like hey it feels like you were trying to do this it sucks that you know that they're going to be put they potentially might be put in that situation but also stop agreeing to go to through these things but this is what makes this is what makes Survivor so great right because I've said this many times because it's easy for us the armchair critics here to sit on the side and say oh man if I go out there I would never vote against another South African on Survivor International because I'm gonna stay with my people or I'm gonna make sure that you know like if I'm a woman going out there woman is going to win the game but then you get out there like DeSean I feel for DeSean like I still feel for him right now he legitimately thought his best plan was not to stay with that Alliance because that would get him to the end and he could potentially win so you have this conflicting moment there's a Survivor you know what you know morally should do but then morals doesn't always win you the game and that's the beauty of it and I think that I feel for Carla but like you said it's the problem that she is leading people on stall and giving them hope when there is no hope and it and it's such a balance and a tricky situation to give that right to vote people out

52:16 And not offend them to the point where they're like well you gave me false hope or you were you know saying you've got your head my back throughout the whole game and then I get to the end and I've spoken to Mike as well one of the love is guys you know so I you know I'm sad for him but yeah he played the game the way he played it Marianne played the game she played it and she ended up winning she was a she managed that jury beautifully and he did it and we may see that again this season with Carla I feel like not enough people are talking about this online that Carla potentially could be held accountable because why are we seeing her Jake every time like you know the editors are pointing this out for a reason definitely I think that there's been kind of a theme of you know women trying to stick together but it's just not working it's gonna come up at the end somehow I was actually re-watching the first episode and Cassidy has a confessional where she talks about how she wants to play like a fox under the radar and then she mentions like I feel like I don't want to be seen as like somebody who wasn't playing the game because that's how when that's how women are usually perceived is that they are their followers and so she kind of brings in like the gender into that and so I just I have I just have a feeling that it's gonna be a theme at

53:36 The end some way somehow and I think that your prediction is could be spot on about cars and the counter could be said about this as well because Cassidy has it's been seen as the person who's tried to keep women in the game she's been seen as the person who tried to you know mend the bridges with Janine bring her and had that relationship going in there it could also be that Cassidy gets to the end and the woman respect the fact that she tried to get them to go deeper in the game so it could also be that we're looking at it from Cassidy's point of view but that it's positive oh sorry for from Carla's point of view as a negative but it could be a positive forecastity like she could go to the end like Sandra Diaz twin did and say I try to vote Russell out so many times I told you guys we needed to get wrestling you didn't give me that chance she could be saying well I tried to keep the likes of Noel in the game I try to keep Janine in the game I try to keep all these people in the game but the votes were against me here I don't think it's likely but it's still a potential possibility here ultimately though we get to Tribal Council semi's not fooled here you know he knows he needs to play his shot in the dark coach were you sitting on shot in the dark now I mean we've had three seasons it's Fallen flat three seasons in a row can we put this one to bed now yeah it sucks because I actually like the idea of shot in the dark because it was not broken enough where it just totally changes the game but this is now the third season

54:56 In a run I think we've seen it played four or five times maybe and with no successes I feel like yeah this kind of retired it's now and now it just doesn't matter you know we didn't even hear about shot in the dark for most of the season and my conspiracy theory was oh they're going to try to bury it so that when someone does play it we forget all about it because it succeeds that would have been cool that's why I was more convinced that this was going to work and when it said not safe it's like oh well okay so yeah we just get rid of it I actually really do like the Cody advantage that he got this episode I feel like that's another one you know that you can kind of work with it you know so yeah shot in the dark can just kind of yeah it's useless it's useless well one thing I will say about shot in the dark is that it leaves us on a positive note with Sammy like I've got a lot of respect for Sammy I think he's a great game player I've got like I came into the season I remember our pre-season content when we were drafting he was on my team he was one of the later picks like real late in the thing and I said this kid's too cocky there's no way he's going to do well he came across us that way when he came into the show and then he just continued to prove me wrong weekend and week after and

56:16 I was like man this kid's actually playing a really good game he's way more mature than what I thought for a 19 year old he's fitting really in with the group he's reading the social situations really well he's playing that middle game I knew it was a risky game but Sammy kind of played the game I wish I could play if I was out there you know and I feel like he can leave this game with his head held hi Jake because like he said he lied to so many people and blindsided them in the game he did not want to go out that way and shot in the dark provided him with an opportunity to show the audience that he knew it was coming definitely I think that we might be saying that Sammy's the best teenager to play I think he is yeah like who else whatever teenagers I don't even like Swati like and there was there was a woman wear a wall with his big moves and resume and all that stuff yeah like I mean you know I know that like he you know yeah he got caught up and he just played both sides not quite convincingly but like he actually like got some done you know like he and he had something going for him and okay Julia oh yeah I could put her up there I guess yeah

57:36 Oh Michael Yeager was good as well he was bringing me some player I remember okay fine there's a few but he's in that he's in that upper tier of teenage but I mean even if you don't look at him as a teenager because he wouldn't want to be looked at just as a teenager who played the game I mean he wanted to be respected as a player I still think Sammy out of the people that got voted out this season up until this point is a likely chance to come back because he was good at confessionals the camera definitely liked him he seemed to have good strategy and he's young like I mean the guy could come back 10 years from now and still not even be 30. you know what I mean so I think we see him at least once more if the show lasts long enough and from that perspective I do like shot in the dark because it shows us well which players are completely out and they just don't see the blade coming and who actually sees the blade coming in they're trying to prevent it or do something about it but overall I'm not too big on it I'm not really thinking that it's worked out and like zuderman says here he thought that they were going to ring it and saw him as the perfect archetype to be a production favorite or like an underdog potentially in the game I don't think that we're going to rig it like I think Survivor of all the reality TV out there I think Survivor is probably one of the most honest ones like the ones that actually let things play out the way it plays out right coach yeah I mean they've shown it by being pissed off at some of their winners

58:56 You know and I mean I'm a staunch Advocate that Survivor is not rigged and my big thing is I'm not a Ben fan but the fact that people think that survivors somehow when they've never rigged it for Siri or Ozzy or any of their other favorites okay so yeah I agree with you this is it's they could put situations where they put their favorites in good spots but they can't outright rig anything because of the people that still vote so I do see that Sammy I do see Sammy coming back I think Sammy comes back over Xander listen I want like I was a I was a I like Zenda I was I wasn't I wasn't following the whole online said is horrible because it was a counter movement because he was popular so people were trying to discredit him because he was popular so it was like one of those things where people are like polarized it's like 50 likes them so the other 50 is not gonna like him basically I don't think xender is a bad kid I think he played a decent game I could see the flaws in this game and understand why he didn't win so maybe that's also why people got annoyed because a lot of Zender Troopers out there believed he had to win and just because I like Xander doesn't mean I've fully needed to win long story short if I had to choose between xender and Sammy I would choose Sammy every day I think sami's got more skill for the game he's more of an all-rounder so I think there's more

1:00:17 Possibilities of where the game could go I think Zender he comes back he turns into the new Aussie you know he's always going to be a good looking young guy with long hair if he still has it that's decent and challenges but game wise like how much game does he really have I don't know even the move that he did where he swapped his Idol away he was helped in that move to do it so that his Idol didn't get taken so I don't necessarily think he's the best player that season I'd much rather see Evie come back from that season between the two of them anyways let's get into some of the points here and also our draft to see who's the left in the game we came into this episode here with three people left in my team four people left on Jake's team I do lose semi sadly he is out so I've got two people left in the game I hope solely on Kodi at this point because I don't think Owen is probably winning this thing if he does I'd be so happy for him like I said I chose Owen as my first pick for the season Cody I believe was my third or fourth pick of the Season let me just double check fourth pick of the Season overall so I've got two of my top four left in the game out of the people that are left in Jake's team he's got only one person left Jesse was his first pick Jesse is still left in the game the rest of them were sort of more towards the middle tier but they have been outperforming our expectations throughout

1:01:37 The season and doing extremely well now when we look at the points here Jake I have continued to close in on you like Jake's been leading the whole season he's been at one point he was about 70 points ahead of me on the draft but you know I've been closing that Gap the Gap continues to be closed and I'm now only 18 points behind you Jake so even though I've got less people there's some Heavy Hitters that are getting me points so let's look at what the points are saying overall top person of the season and taking us top spot again after last week he's been top the whole season lost the top spot to Jesse he's back in top spot this week it's a whopping 78.5 points to Jesse's 65 point season second as Cody now Cody's had 46 confessionals throughout the season he's had three Team Challenge wins I'm sorry more than that four Team Challenge wins he's won an individual immunity in fact he's actually won a second individual immunity that I didn't update so I'm actually even a bit closer so he's won two individual amenities and I'll give you the update at school in a bit he's made the merch which was points he's had a successful Advantage play in this episode and he found an additional advantage to the idol that he found this episode so that all gave me more points this week he's at 83.5 points at the end of this Jesse's at 65 points and then coming in at third place at this point is our third pick

1:02:57 As well as potential winner Karloff at 58.5 points so overall this is the score that we have and I'll just maximize this a little bit for everybody that's here in the live this is the school we've got 319.5 points for Jake and we've got 306.5 points now for me so even though I've only got two people you've got four people still anybody's game at the stage in the game and to remind people who have forgotten we give points for professionals one point Team Challenge wins is three points individual immunities is Five Points making the merch is Five Points Advantage players is Five Points finding an advantage three points runner up before the season is 25 winning it or all out is 50 points and then we have our bonus categories for most confessionals most individual immunity wins most advantages fans at least votes casted against them so that's where we're sitting at what do you think of that Jake so still a close race getting into the end game here yeah I think that ah I'm riding on Jesse I mean I think I've got I've got the number one as we the consensus we came to I've got the number one you've got the number two yeah and then I've got three through five I'd say gabler's fourth at this point in my in my mind okay actually no maybe Cassidy it's between Cassidy and gabler and you've got both of them

1:04:17 You've got six who with Owen so yeah so it's gonna be tough so I think that you know as long as what we're predicting is you know accurate I should pull it out yeah I think it's going to be exciting to see what happens here in the end game I think that for me to have any chance I need Cody to win more so he can have the most even if he gets second place he needs to have the most immunity wins for the season he needs to have the most advantages found least votes casting against them is most likely going to be one of yours because both Mike gabler and Jesse has not had votes against them but it could go either way like I'm excited to see how this first one plays out I've also thought of a few things that we can amend in the scores for next season because of how this one's played out but I've been enjoying this what do you think Drew of the draft overall and sort of the teams that are left and how we're doing it differently this season I haven't I was I've been going through this Ellie and Lindsay were my two picks at the beginning of the season so to see that Jake had both of them yeah I'm with you bro after they left IHOP shipped to James and then from there after James left I think I've I think I've been firmly on the Jesse train

1:05:38 But these are me and Emily also do the draft and she had her winner pick is Cassidy at the beginning of the Season she picked Cassidy and she felt like gabler and Jesse were also going to have good seasons and she did way better than I did honestly I think Jake's probably going to pull it out Chris but like yeah I get it I get it's gonna be tough I like to root for the underdog so like let's go let's go team on team Underdog I'll take it I got to keep my title from last season where I pick Marianne nice yeah but you see last season what we did differently Drew was just outright winner so whoever won one so we thought we make it interesting we did it for the first time in survivors of Africa this season complicated yeah so there's more points involved so even if someone wins they don't just win the whole draft but you can get points for other things which I really enjoy I do want to go into the live quickly see if there's any other really good comments that's come in let's have a look here imagine JD and semi on the second chance second season I don't know if that's fair to JD like I love JD but I mean let's be honest like he didn't show too much potential in that first season I want to see JD back though I'm fully like can we get a post merge versus pre-merge season so we can bring JD back please like I want to see turn of the outcasts but for U.S

1:06:58 America yeah also here Deanna Bean welcome to the live seeing Sammy has much more strategy than Zender agree with you Dan I think we all agree with that zuman honestly his end didn't even have strategy Jay he's saying can you guys break down potential final three Converse and who likely wins in each scenario and most likely loses fire making now yeah sure I think at this stage the most likely combination for a final three if I had to guess based on what I'm seeing play out it's going to be Jesse Cody and Carla that's my pick for the final three I think Jesse Cody and Owen Jesse gabler and someone else with Jesse getting first someone else getting second and game we're getting third Jesse JC gets first and any combination he's in yeah at this point at this point Cody I think without Jesse being in that combination gets second that's why we said he's probably the second most likely person to win I don't see anybody really beating Cody either Carla I think with any combination that doesn't have Jesse and Cody in it has a very good shot Carla and Cassidy going against each other with anybody else

1:08:18 Would be interesting because as the edits said this week their Carla believes they've played a very similar game the editor hasn't necessarily shown us that but they believe that and I think that's why Carla wants to cut her because she's like well I don't want to see them I don't actually see them as playing a similar game but I guess that's the perception out there that color has not this through that everybody else has but Carlos so because I feel like Carla thinks that's going to split votes I feel like Carla wins over Cassidy personally who else could there be like Gable I think I think gabler's got a better chance than what Drew maybe would like to believe if he got to an end scenario I think he's got a story I think he's got a story Drew yeah my story is remember that time I won that immunity by doing this for everyone that's ever existed remember that yeah I don't think that's a good one everybody on planet Earth I did yeah that I don't think that's a good one to fit you know the camera kept showing us everybody on the side rolling their eyes so I've just got a feeling that's not the one to talk about but I do think he's got a like gambler's story is the one of you know I came into this game I was 20 years older than everybody else I found it difficult to relate to people I had to play the game differently like he said from the start there's only been one other person who's one that's been over the age of 50.

1:09:36 So he couldn't play the game like everybody else and connect to them at that level so he had to sort of sit in the backseat in the beginning eat up all of the you know things that Ellie was serving him at that point and he wasn't happy and then waited for his time to pounce and then took out his biggest threat in the game and then continued to be a loyal number to those who wanted it but also still you know at some point what gabler is missing is he needs to take out the Jesse and if he takes out Jesse and Cody then I think he beats Carla and that's why it's hard to do these final threes because I feel like even if he sits next to Carla but if he was the reason to take those guys out I think he beats her as well because you need that move I mean Marianne has literally shown us you take out the biggest Target in the game you can get credit for that I mean Marianne before that didn't do that much strategically like she was just there a number she was you know a fun character someone that we all love but that was her move and it showed that you can do that move against the best player and get the credit for it at the end that's the new in fact I think that is the new manner of Survivor in this faster paced game that's how you want to play you don't necessarily people forget because the pre-merge is so short people forget what you did in the pre-match it's also it's all about what happens after the merch yeah they're pretty it's if anyone's ever seen Moneyball or a red Money Ball a lot of the stuff does not matter like the

1:10:56 Pre-merge matters is because you know you build your relationships and it's fine but at the end of the day no one's got no one cares about what happens pre-merge and really no one cares about what you do early merge it's all a matter of do you win in the end you know do you do you yeah you can go on this these you can vote out you know you'd be Omer last season and vote out everyone and be responsible for all of it but Omer doesn't get to the end and I think that the you know the team the team Marianne's sitting there you know watching hey I can't win like this I can't win by voting all these people out but what I can do is do what I'm going to do and then get rid of the person that did do all of it and then I'm good because who else can beat me at this point I've already taken out the person that took out everyone else and I agree with you know now if gabler like if we get to six and gabler gets rid of Jesse and then gets rid of Cody or let Jesse get rid of Cody and then get rid of Jesse hell yeah gabler wins and whoever does that hell yeah they win and they better sit there and say hey I did this my way and it worked so yeah and I think Owen is Owen is just

1:12:16 Yeah he's sitting on the sidelines just wanting to have a move that's what I'm saying I don't see them unless Owen like really comes out strong and is like trying to pull some Mastermind move why would they take him out that's why I think he's kind of a lock for the fight Jesse and Cody's relationship is going to get tested like you know does Jesse take Cody to the end does Cody take Jesse to the end like very rarely you get these strong Duos take each other to the end like a Stephen Fishback and a JT or Wendolyn Dom like you don't see that happening very often so I'm very interested to see if that actually happens and if they go in a different direction but for us watching the show it's going to be exciting to see what happens over the next couple of episodes I think we've pretty much touched on everything that we can here for this episode unless there's anything else drew that you wanted to touch on this is the opportunity to tell people what are you working on what are you doing currently and where can people follow you can follow me on Instagram chosen10515 or Survivor Buffs Twitter same thing at the click kliq or Survivor Buffs on Twitter also if you're gonna follow me if you ever have time watch my recap of 42 seasons and 42 days so it was a project I did over the summer I'm not doing it again until season 50.

1:13:33 I'll do 50 and 50 days but that's still a few years away my next Survivor project I haven't really thought about it yet but I do want to do another long thing like I did over the summer just I lost a lot of weight doing that so hopefully something that's less stressful on the body than yeah I was seeing all the content that you were like religious with that every single day boom you had it you had a next episode on you know it was impressive to see and you know definitely go check that out guys what was your biggest sort of I know you probably don't want to spoil too much of what sort of happened and you want people to sort of watch what was the biggest thing you changed your mind on watching it again like because I feel like every time you go back and you watch it again you get more enlightened by the fact that you're seeing things the second time around the but also I love the idols has a great cast and it sucks because the pre-merge is really good and then the like this time around you know you try to watch it you know differently and the merge I just still didn't care once it happened because it's just covered by this Dark Cloud but Island Idols has a great cast and banawatu's top 10 season like Ben Watson was really good yeah

1:14:53 Yeah I wish I wish I had at the top of my head I did a season rankings obviously with some of the Survivor Buffs and a bunch of other YouTubers as well not that long ago on Russell muscles the channel in flim Masters and I'm pretty sure I had venue watches somewhere in my top 10 as well there it was it was one of the seasons I really enjoyed like I think it was like eight or nine for something like that from memory for me personally and I'm so glad that you're that you're that you're on that now as well because I feel like it doesn't get the love it deserves you know and it's such a crazy outcome to a season as well with such a crazy good cast you know anyway so I guess moral of the story go watch better what to what's happening over here on the nullify take well in the next week we're going to be doing some more exit interviews with the challenge Australia as we can I'm sort of working with Channel 10 on that we're also going to be covering the next two episodes for the challenge Australia and also we'll be covering the finale for both The Amazing Race and also for survivors so oh no actually survive us next week the survivors a week after The Amazing Race so it's a two episodes still before the finale right yeah so I might have another special guest on next weekend Jake may not be available unless anything has changed on us and for the next recap we'll talk about that afterwards but I might have another special guest joining me as we talk about the next episode hopefully it's an exciting

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