The Challenge 39: Episode 16 Review

0:13 [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] welcome back to the nullified te Channel on YouTube where Kahuna and I got the TNT takes for you on the challenge 39 that's right we're back baby kuna how you doing M I'm doing great I'm doing really well I'm probably not doing quite as good as you living it up on the Gold Coast right now just the loveliest part of Australia love it over here absolutely love it in the Gold Coast we've got Chris in the live as well you'll have to do this on tonight I'll be in and out ah okay that's fair Chris that's fair we did change it because I'm in the Gold Coast and loving it in the Gold Coast the Gold Coast reminds me of Florida like honestly

1:33 Like walking around here and get real temper Vibes at certain spaces when I'm walking around and you know just the weather the people you know there's a lot of bikinis out and about I could tell you that much it's hot you know it's warm weather over here and Good Vibes good friendly Vibes I do miss the ocean and really nice beaches because Melbourne doesn't have that they've got more Bays than the beaches that you get up here so surface Paradise are you like actual surface Paradise I'm at surface Paradise yeah pretty much like it's like it's the Vibes isn't it's so chill in the whole s city is just like it just gives that you know relaxed kind of feeling yeah holiday Vibes and it's also like it's not like there's people here but it doesn't feel like everybody's on top of you like it's like it feels a little bit more spaced out and I don't know it's good vibes you know but I still have love for the challenge I still have love for everybody in the live when it comes to talking about the challenge so I know I had to move it from yesterday to today and I apologize if that through some people's schedules off a little bit but I had to try and fit it in I didn't have time to watch the episode until last night but I CAU up and I'm very interested to know what everybody's thinking of this latest episode because we lost to real

2:53 Ones in this episode some people may even say three I know that Ed is a LED or hater type of guy at the moment when it comes to the fandom a lot of people not that high on him but you can kind of understand kuna after this episode you know how Ed has been going at the fans online he must feel like an absolute idiot after making this big move in the previous episode and absolutely failing on him and then him going out first in this daily like put yourself in her shoes kuna if the fans were criticizing your gameplay and you felt like that was the only move you had in the game you would feel a little bit sensitive about that wouldn't you yeah absolutely I mean I do like it and it is a shame that like when you say losing two real ones and maybe three I think we've lost five in a row of potentially the top competitors like in the show we went Raven Zaza Ed yeah like man like it's so brutal yeah absolutely and yeah I mean if I was Ed like I feel like he's one of those guys that un fortunately the end result maybe speaks a little bit louder than the work in progress and I feel like he showed that he's very good at this game he's smart he's athletic he seemed to be one of the top competitors but just kind of

4:13 Had that one thing where like they were obviously turning on him he didn't he didn't see it he didn't know they were using him he's fine for that like to be the bottom and then on this one need wanting to go for that win he just gets that little bit too greedy at the end and these dumb things will outshine what I think is a really good competitor and yeah I don't care I don't I know the fans would like for us to hate on Ed because he's been clapping back at the fans I couldn't care less like maybe I should jump on social maybe he's done something horrible I don't know but I do think Ed is someone that I'd like to see come back in the future and play the game again won me this season yeah like I think he's got potential and he hasn't reached it yet but let's say hello to a few people here dores welcome in the live saying hello you lovely gentlemen I'm trying to keep hope alive even though I have a feeling I'm going to like the end I'm not going to like the end result of this game not many likable people left but I hope everybody is Team No after this episode because she is like carrying the torch we'll talk about that like if you're not team NES then what show are you watching right now kuna yeah my goodness like if this show like I've been hold I'm G to just go on a small tangent here Chris I've been holding on

5:34 To hope and it seemed more and more unlikely the closer it gets and the more I hear rumors and blah that season 40 would end up being a all Champion season I've been holding on to a small glimmer of hope not knowing that you know they're looking for a new Champion to add to the ranks they've just added a few more in USA in Australia in world like you know by trying to add a few more Champions to the pool that they can get from I was holding out hope but looking at this season and looking what narice has done looking what kylin and Hario coming like being that Underdog Story they've un Unearthed some absolute Superstars here and then on the oppos turned Jay into some sort of super villain like I feel going to season 40 they need to capitalize on the momentum like the livia narice thing here now like is going to be to like they can't waste these people and now I'm like I get it now like there's no way season 40 is going to be all Champions they have got some storylines that have come out of characters which people have been complaining about all season and look what it's kind of turned into as far as some of these things out of it's amazing it's been it's been a slow burn this season though to get to the point where we are now at and I feel I'm with you I'm all in on these

6:54 Story lines that are being created like you now like we'll have to get into it but you've got so many good things this episode may have been like even though it hurts so much seeing these people leave may have been the best episode yet because thing it's sad but I know it was amazing like I like it's sad that they're gone but I'm like that was that was TV you know setting up future it's setting up like future Seasons like if they don't what will make this episode truly sad is if they don't follow through on this and give us that future story lines with what's happened because this is why reality TV can be better than script the TV because you can't script some of the interactions that we had in this specific episode and I'm excited to talk about it but I do want to say hello to a few more people here YouTube bear cat hello welcome to the live Willie hey guys this episode had its highs and lows and it was a good episode I agree you cat says YouTu be cat says two fantastic episodes in a row Del says it was a good episode and had me screaming as well crying and screaming I agree like I mean I felt at like I mean I invested like and I wasn't invested in these people for a long time but I'm super invested like it was it was sad to see the conclusion but it was like yeah it's like it's like people said it's crying and screaming at the same time you know for what we were seeing a saying it's over

8:14 For me no more harass you and Colin that was the show no a no please hang in with us into the show as long as narice is still in the show kin andasio lives on in my op see what that means is they've done an awesome job of getting are to invest in Hario and kin like the fact that you're so impacted and saddened by them walking off means the show has done its job if we didn't give a about them and we're like oh yeah haran k whatever like don't you want to see yeah like don't you don't you don't you want to see Jay's downfall because you know it's coming you just know Jay like Jay's not winning the season if Jay wins the season oh that would be insane like if he could come back and win the season from here but I don't I don't think Jay's going to win it I just they're burying him in the edit in my opinion they're burying him they're not giving him a good guy edit at all fast Fall From Grace a fast Fall From Grace like the quickest heel turn in history let's see what people are saying here if only James and Cory had been eliminated instead of HK for the first three falling of the Rope we'll talk about that let's see who else is here that are new that are dropping in lucana saying hello Luciana an amazing episode but I'm worried for the rest of the season there is my only hope right now and I agree definitely my only hope dicks welcome as well saying I don't think any of the men

9:34 Have won have one been in sand what is it do you do you get what D to say I don't think all the men all the men left now after kyin Haro no one's actually been in Elation and one got you DS got you that's true fair call there they've all been sort of I guess dodging it AR saying how many elimination wins between the final men way less than one the ones that are left what a waste not deserved in my opinion yeah it's all the scared guys that are still in the game that like finding way but I mean listen I don't Mark people down for that part of the game is not to be in a position where you get in danger let's talk a little bit about the beginning of this episode because as much as we like horo and kyin what was that start like what was that start with kyin coming in pretending to be the only one coming back you know you've got Olivia and tears making the moment about her you know typical Olivia you know I feel so bad I don't deserve a friend like this and needing to be consoled by her friends and you've got you know narice consoling kin Carin some Tears like what was that g it was likeo but sometimes they've got weird gameplay like we can admit to that at least right Kahuna yeah I yeah like I did hear on angel cake Drew interviewed

10:54 Kylin and Haro and basically they said that was the plan and they thought it would be 30 seconds a couple minutes apparently it was over an hour what and that's yeah so kyin was just awkwardly sitting there and horo said he got to the point where he's like am I actually out are they going to SL me back in because they production back Productions heard them having the idea this is this is according to the interview with angel cake so we're taking his stuff which I'm you know obviously homage to angel cake 30 minutes they said okay well if you're going to do it we're going to make it a thing like let's do it properly and like send like and they held heras you back production was fully in on the joke and all that and then kept it going for ages to the point where Colin got really awkward and didn't know what to do anymore oh man it just it I don't know if production thought it was going to be good but it was it just came across even for me on the show I like this is a bit weird like it's a bit cringe you know what I did love though like the Olivia thing is like at the time I was like okay but it was so perfect to have that at the start of the episode knowing what happened at the end of the episode that it was

12:14 Bookend like that's editing you know what I mean it's good storytelling I think again it's not a good it's not a good look for Olivia it's not a good look Olivia at all like she's also she's coming across as this really bous player similar to Jay in a sense in this because to me she comes across as the pickme girl you know like I need to be popular at all times I need attention I will go where the wind blows and you know I can't remember who said it even towards the end and that I think it was Corey said this in a confessional where he was like if Olivia can turn against her ride or die her best friend there's no chance in any future season I trust Olivia because if she can turn that quickly on someone she's that close with what will she do to me in the game so I feel like Olivia's kind of screwed for future seasons based on how this episode has played out like it's not looking good for and we'll talk a little bit about it later on but I want to bring up the burner Emanuel conversation as well what did you think of burner and emanuel's conversation you know you know not to get too personal but you know for me I've got a great relationship with my mom as well like my mom like I phone her once a week maybe on the weekends I can't give her a call then maybe once every two weeks I'll give her a call she's in South Africa obviously I'm Australia so we don't get to see each other all the time but I had a great mom growing up as well I couldn't imagine Bern sort of upbringing

13:35 Not having that closeness with a mom but I feel like it explains a lot of why burner is who she is while she's always so defensive she always becomes confrontational when there is no need to be confrontational she even had this confrontational scene with kylin in the beginning with KY like lower your voice and she's like I won't do I won't do it or like she's he's like don't come at me and she's like what are you going to do like she's provoking him the whole time you know and KY ins of her personality the SE it doesn't matter though right like okay we can understand why you're an but you're still an like you know it doesn't you gotta you gotta work on it I do like that kylin sort of said look everyone lets gives her a pass for being completely rude and I'm sick of it so why he called her out on that and said everyone knows you're rude no one no one sort of says it what I didn't like about the Emanuel burner thing was that we keep getting emanuel's Mom like he's even getting more calls I feel like it's like Cory doing it yeah like man like why are we hearing so much about his mom in that story and it's literally the only thing we get about him yeah well they don't have Nelly this season so someone else have

14:55 To give us that storyline cuz Nelly was the one in the previous season that always did it for his mom he was a trouble kid but his mom was close to him I used to think for ages Nelly was going to win the show because of the fact that they had the mom confession one I'm genuinely worried about that now with Emanuel because he has nothing they can't give him a storyline right he's not contributing anything now that haras yeah his wallpaper and now that Haria and klin are gone they're like we have to give him something let's keep doing the mum thing let's pump the mum thing like I'm worried that they're trying to give some sort of edit to a winner that's nothing so that's interesting because you the way no that's true and while marus is there she took out K I mean she's got a huge can she win the final yes if it's like this I guess isn't it yeah like I mean let's all hope let's God is Chris listen this is what I always say like when we did the draft one thing that sticks out of my mind is how early she was picked in the draft I didn't see it I didn't see it I was like narice is one of those people coming into the season I was like she was fine I didn't watch her previous show so I didn't have that following of who she was and I didn't I wasn't impressed enough with ryot OD

16:15 To feel like she's going to be this big character or challenge threat coming into this season she's completely won me over I mean Hario was undefeated Hario was undefeated kyin beat the most champions in the house consistently came second in thees so close to winning even in this daily second again he's a clear Bonafide competitor so for her to take those two out and we're just dismissing her like emanuel's going to walk to the final and win this season it's so disrespectful in my opinion it's so disrespectful to say that just having the performance that she's had you know I get where you're coming from but we can't say that she doesn't have a shot she was an absolute Beast like she was great I my thing with n i knew she was going to be big this season and I was picking her early as well but not necessarily based on physical attributes I know I saw her in Ral dies and was like she's got attitude she's got spunk she looks the way she looks they're going to really try to get something out of this girl and then when she had the reunion and the way she interacted with Raven I go she's TV like she's great she's going to be good on this show but I did not necessarily predict her physical capabilities which is showing like she's up I loved it like she's really you know what I like more

17:35 Than anything about narice and like listen it's funny to see the hypocrisy it's funny to see the fakeness of a lot of people on the show like I kind of get entertained by that but it's also refreshing to have someone that is so real she's just real she's like this is who I am these are my people this is who I rock with I don't give a crap like she has in some way tanked her game this season for Rio and kand by not going with that power Alliance of Jay Michelle and the rest of the house but she's like I don't care these are my people and I really respect that even with Olivia the fact that she gave Olivia rope and was like you know what I rocked with her coming into the house she was my girl I can't because of something external being told to me change that so I will still stay with her for now she hasn't done anything to prove that she's against me but then to have that moment where Olivia turns against her and she actually tells her like I mean this was an arice heavy episode so many different ways and I mean like I said just absolute Superstar if she can have another showing like this and if she can win this season if she wins this season I think there's a case to be made that she would be one of the best Champions we've had in a very long time but regardless the star has been born like she has to come back in Future Seasons yeah I think they've got

18:56 The potential there for like if battle for a new Champion was supposed to be about the Next Generation and we've heard them banging on about it to almost at nauseum where a lot of the OG fans are like ah but like I think if they can get three four five people that can have an another few seasons and be that the show can be built around like I think they've done it with some of these people like that was the purpose of this season to have a chance for newbies to find their feeding find footing and not be in the shadow of some really heavy Superstars and veterans that always dominate a season give them a chance to shine and look what we uncover right Nar is an absolute Superstar yeah let's read a couple of comments that Kev since we've been ranting about Nar and how good she is YouTu Bearcat says Michelle did a perfect burner and spies Lies when she cried to NY about being her best friend know where she got it so basically saying that Michelle is a bit of a hypocrite here for not understanding why Berna is so emotional because Berna feels like Michelle is her bestie Michelle doesn't necessarily want to talk strategy with her if you think about the party scene she gets really annoyed by Jay in that party scene for trying to put her on the spot in front of burner but Michelle and

20:16 Michelle's one and listen I get what you're saying but Michelle is another character that went through and this is why I said you can't write the kind of scripts that we saw this episode she was like I feel for Michelle man like Michelle's kind of like there's been times where I've been annoyed with Michelle but Michelle kind of calling Jay out on his beers a few times have made me like Michelle more and more because she's not just the Sheep that's following him like she's won a show he hasn't yet for Clear reason and he's putting a like even in this episode again I just got the weirdest vibes from J when he talks to Michelle as well like his very like social manipulation that abusive boyfriend type of relationship like I just didn't like how he was yeah because of me you know you put me at risk I could have gone in against CT and I would like never have done that to you and it's like ex strange I don't like that interaction and just because Michelle wants to save niss and Olivia who she's close friends with yeah and like and the fact that he said that he would he would he wanted to pick Emanuel over her and she's like what the like yeah that was wild like wild imagine how different the chain would have eventuated if he picks Emanuel picks burner picks colen

21:36 Like where does Michelle end up in the pecking order and she's going from last yeah like close right she's dropping dangerously to that dropy would have saved her would have saved her for sure but you know like it doesn't it's not a comfortable place to be in when you when you don't have to and then like we're hearing she's hearing him entertain like I don't think he was genu do you think he was genuinely entertaining berner's idea or was he just like she's talking to me I can't say get lost like CU she's I don't know I don't know what he was what he was thinking and then Michelle's comes he's like thank God Michelle what do you think like someone distract me someone else is here to take the heat of this awkward conversation with verer yeah it was weird hell yeah Willie says b was making a fool out of herself fighting with kin and he was smiling during the fight and that's always K's emo he's just like he's just like what are you guys doing like I'm not getting physical and especially with a woman like I don't know B's weird like I said definitely gives us an understanding of why she is who she is but for me to have respect for burner and that story is she needs to go back and watch this season and how she's interacting and understand that she can't always have a victim's attitude she is really that girl that keeps making trouble people AR just like if everybody keeps telling you're confrontational

22:56 And you're making a big deal out of nothing there's probably some truth in it you know what I mean like everybody can't be wrong at the same time like last season because I liked she was because if you remember she was she was partnered she was partner with C she was partnered with CT and CI couldn't wait to get rid of her when he played with her because she was she wasn't in she wasn't in r or di she was in spies lies and allies right that was right yeah and she was with she was with CT early in the season and CT was like she's tanking my game she's talking too much she's like just couldn't wait and we couldn't understand what was going on because they didn't show her fully I feel like in the early days but C kept talking about the fact that she's going to tank his game so I think like this says I always like learning about cast backgrounds but I feel like this conversation said one thing and one thing only they're both making it to the final otherwise they give them this random screen time possible YouTube bat says love that kin calls out people totally agree Jor says Olivia chose the wrong possible option possible if she had chosen narice even after making that promise to Michelle andj it would have been a huge iconic political moment it would have been a huge moment regardless like Olivia would have probably solidified her call back next season she probably would have solidified because

24:16 We know that CT not CT TJ loves both fasio and kyland as well they're now Sav the big characters stay in the game the house continues to be divided the drama would have caused like Olivia is so petrified she made a move out of being scared at that moment and she's like oh I can't be and then she's probably going to be like gone next in any case Nar is not coming back into that house to be Bes with Olivia she's coming for blood like I could tell you now she wants revenge she wants to take the people out that put her in that situation I'm not as down on the move as the majority I do think it was a poor move because it could have been better but I can see why she did it and I can see the positives and the benefits of what of doing it as well right I just think she could have done it like you said she would have guaranteed a spot it would have been iconic political moment like Jo says it would absolutely have lived on as a massive moment to do that what's her reputation now C can I just jump in here and say what is what is Olivia's reputation now in the challenge if she does come back like who's going to want to work with her like who's going to trust Olivia to have their back after that's not too bad either like she can now get a guaranteed callback as a villain as a snake as this three first four

25:37 Potentially yeah potentially unfortunately but I mean she that is going to be one of the consequence she's now solidified a call back but for the wrong reasons and it could have been for a better reason that's why I'm saying I don't like it because I feel like she's wasted the opportunity but I do think that in and of itself it's h you talk about Jay being a full from Grace like Olivia was the F darling she was the F favorite after last season and that has not gone well in her second season out yeah it's been it's been it's been a rough ride for her let's look at I think the worst move would have been to do nothing like the fact that she even tried to get like she realized she's at the bottom four with them she made it very clear with her tears how invested and how in she is now with haras they're all looking at her going she's gone there's no way she's working with us right so she's fourth right if narice is third at the bottom behind harass and Kyle and then Olivia's fourth she's right at the bottom by doing what she did she got picked third behind Michelle she's jumped she's jumped ver she's jumped all that you know I me like you're giving credit to Olivia when all the credit here should go to Michelle like Michelle's the one who convinced her to make the move Michelle's the one who said sure

26:57 But I'm saying as far as why you make that choice goes she did like she it wasn't like a horrible strategic decision is what I'm saying I get why she did it could have done for this season yeah but she could have done better like and like I said if she didn't do that and they don't win a daily like this by next episode she could she could have picked narice could have said and they would have been amazing who blah and it would have been for one episode next episode if they don't win again she's gone right yeah well I don't like the move and again I hear what you're saying I hear what you're saying but the challenge is a Unique Reality TV show it's not like the other shows where you play it once you don't come back for another 10 years you've got to think and it's one of the things that frustrates us sometimes about the challenge is that people play for future Seasons more than what they play for the actual season so for a TV moment this was great like this was great that it played out the way that it did for a long-term challenge move I think this was horrible for her she doesn't have that many people that will ride for her maybe Michelle will still ride for her in the future Jay will still ride for her in the future some made Choice maybe she's paying off from there and right now there was eight versus three like she's picked the majority right and majority wouldn't be going

28:18 Forward yeah exactly I was going to say production's not the smartest when it comes to picking the right people to come back so they'll probably pick a lot of these people that are not as like by the fans to come back because they don't like production doesn't really care about the ratings as much it seems like I mean if they cared about the ratings they' pick the people that the fans love but that's too difficult it's like half of the cast trying to do math it's very difficult for production to actually figure that out but you know so maybe she did make the right choice because she's aligning herself with more of the dislikable people instead of the likable people from this season and most of the dislikable people will probably come back compared to the likable people if that makes sense so she's probably yeah she's looking at going look at narice is the golden girl she's clearly going to look she's with the she's clearly not coming back fans love her she's clearly not getting the call back they'll definitely bring well she can go I'm gonna come back as the villain I'll be the anti doesn't have the smart for that she doesn't Olivia did not look at it at that let's be honest she did not go down to that level thinking about this okay I want to read a couple more comments is saying and we would all be seeing her differently than how she is now yeah Emanuel blames all the girls for forcing themselves on him on his Twitter I could just can't help it I just

29:38 Brief I just walk around in the house and the girls throw themselves at me I have the same problem in life and I know he's difficulty the struggles YouTu B didn't think much of n at the beginning now team narice totally agree a says haras was distracted by love that is why he lost I do I don't think I think he went all out he just couldn't do that origami puzzle that was the that was the thing I threw him out did you Noti the trick was the neck yeah the neck notic it's not a square it looks like a square but n saw it's two triangles put together yeah it was the difference it was the difference that was the difference just that says nerice can win the final she is good at puzzles and she's good at endurance she proven last season and this season that she is final material I've been loving nce since her rookie season yeah 100% team narice more team n here kept up with Nelly she can win a final Michelle has grown got to respect that 100% I enjoy Michelle I think Michelle has been she's she's G to come back for future season she's just too good in the confessionals she's that player that's I don't know if she'll ever win I don't know but she's definitely going to be a main stay I would say on the challenge I do like this Michelle I didn't like the Laurel pandering scared

30:58 She's got to get rid of that victim don't do that stuff seeing her stand up for herself is kind of badass 100% this is the Michelle that people love from Survivor that we're seeing come out now Ki saying absolutely agree on Jay he is out of his mind totally agree kiwi wiie says to me sometimes with Michelle I tend to be upset of her because of the moves she's making other times I like her because she is entertaining and she goes and stands up for herself and that again that is what we like about her in Survivor she stands up for herself she's a bit of a backbone she definitely always tries to ride the middle as much as she can even Survivor I think it's harder to do in the challenge you have to choose a side but this season she has got a side which means that she's having to having to we're going to see she's going to live and die by this the different decisions that she's made because I don't think narice is looking at Michelle in the same way after this vote right at Olivia and Michelle I think she like narice going back into this game now she's going to be a true Rogue she's just going to play for herself she got no one right nothing in no one yeah Dan says I don't think Jay gives two ifs about burner but she thinks she's so high up on the friends chain I think Jay would cut her with no regrets totally agree if this was a burner and she was 22 that is one thing but she's still acting like this at 33 Den saying I am so disappointed in Olivia

32:18 Apparently she asked TJ if she could change her mind but he said no yeah at least there that right yeah I did like I did like I did like TJ calling Michelle out a little bit as well when they were doing the like nominate and Michelle was like and he's like no it was Jay and Michelle like I can't actually it was Jay he called Jay out because Jay was right at the start and he's like oh you know this is so hard now and you know emotional about the friends stuff and stuff and he's like Jay what did you expect in this game like he's like this is the game you're playing so I liked even TJ was getting annoyed with Jay in this specific episode I don't know if you noticed that and P pushing them to make a decision and when the chain started going wrong or not wrong it I think it went the way it was supposed to go really but Jay was like tell him to pick narice tell him to save narice and Jay was doing like oh now it looks like I was trying to save her and I think that whole thing yeah that's what he called like where do you think that's going to go like how did you think it was going to happen here like they said of course it was going to go that way he like I can't save everyone I only start the chain I can't save and even him like running around afterwards to go find to show all the lists of hey look at every single one you always had you saved yeah and it's like no dude you've

33:38 Been you've been working against narice and her wants and needs in the game for a very long time in the game this was not the first time you know and keep saying he keeps saying confessionals she's not working with me yeah and like dude you're like you haven't given her a thing like the entire season like everything got to be his way he thinks I'm protecting her therefore like you know I've never said her name I'm not throwing her in therefore everything else is accepted but she's not an equal partner in the alliance like she doesn't have like she the whole time the only thing she's asked for Jay has Emanuel Michelle has Corey Olivia don't know who Olivia has she's supposed to have Hario she wants harass she's like you guys have got your number one you're saving outside of this inner I can't have anything I can't have one guy I can't have rasio like I mean and it's like she said how did Mariah get above her in the pecking order to be able to keep James save this whole time like how did that happen just because Jay is so fearful of Haro in a final that is the basically the thing he just doesn't want to run against them but in the meantime his best friend is Emanuel who's also super capable of running a f so I just don't get it I don't get Jay's gameplay it's conf using the season yeah and then

34:58 When he doesn't get his way he like cries and Tantrums it's so full on like it's such a big maybe some people just you know the saying is like power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely and the Spider-Man thing of with great power comes great respons like he's in the driver seat he's always played from an underdog position he's always been mostly because of his gameplay and social right he doesn't know how to be bad positions but first time he's in power and he's like ah like what do I do with her I don't know how to handle this like too much too much power di say can I see why she was scared and made the move but flipping on Michelle would have been a challenge history totally agree Olivia made the worst move of her challenge career it will definitely be held against her in future if she returns I agree I do think for future games okay auna saying about this game the problem is the challenge isn't like other reality TV shows she'll definitely get the call back I don't know how well she's going to do YouTube bcat says say kiwi skirt the original challenge casts were in the early 20s they were new folks are almost all in the early 30s Olivia had the opportunity to flip the house but she messed it up she could have still had Michelle in her top five and still saved her top four Willie also says here Olivia's reputation will now be someone who isn't loyal and snakes their best friends I think it's not going to

36:18 Look good for her in the future Geor J is saying I think Olivia will get a call back that Montage at the end building up the Rivalry between her and R was something never seen a production do and I love the soundtrack of that so freaking much because as n is walking back into the house in the background you hear the song say this is how villains are born and I'm like they're talking about the Nar is coming in to burn the freaking house down like they she's in my opinion Nar is not a villain she's an anti-hero moving forward into this game she's like you know if you're a fan of Marvel she's the Deadpool of the challeng right now she's the anti-hero coming back and I bet you she's going to play ball she's going to be like Jay we're all good all this kind of stuff but she's going to take some names the first time she gets an opportunity to take a shot at an Olivia or Michelle or Jay she's doing it like I bet you she's going to go after that power structure I'd be disappointed if she doesn't the walk especially because it was both of them that she elimin it was just like so badass yeah like they made it look so and they are building a character sure like this is when the challenge is at its best when it does this type of editing when it has the music on point like you and I have spoken about this before and I've said to you this is when I feel like Survivor doesn't even get

37:38 To this level of like character building and editing anymore like they just have the secret Source when it comes to it and it's a shame that it's taken this long into the season for it to get good and I think for me personally it once again proves that the original or the main MTV show it's too long they should go to the format that they have for CBS they should go to the format they have for World chion make 12 episodes make it about 20 people instead of 30 people have it be just better because you almost don't care about the first 10 people going or that first 10 episodes because it's just it's the prelims if you're a sports fan before getting to the playoffs I want to get to the playoffs a lot quicker I want to get to where it hurts a lot quicker where you see this type of story lines a lot quicker that's just that's just my take on it double welcome here in the live saying Jord Jordan Tori bananas all like Olivia she'll be fine true if you've got those three on your side in a pretty good space if they're all in season 40 kiwi say shows in the game two you two Bearcat pretty obvious now you mentioned it cheers kiwi skir saying I don't think they'll still stay enemy survivals wouldn't happen they don't need to have a rival season they'll bring him into anything hoping that they'll get the fireworks of a rivalry

38:59 You don't need to wait for a Rivals season specifically you know yeah and I was going to say I don't think like they're still not following each other on socials and stuff I don't think this like I don't think Nar is the kind of girl she doesn't come across as someone that doesn't seem very forgiving I don't think I don't think she's going to forgive her quickly Dolores is saying I feel like Olivia had a choice and she was scared and found herself making a decision that will end up having dire consequences in my opinion totally agree I think the only thing that was good about the schoolyard pick was that Jay freaked out about Colleen not picking narice he was so pissed about that I think Colleen is done now who did colen weird who did Colleen pick at the end Cory I forgot Cory right Cory yeah Colleen Ken I mean really again like he's just weird like he's been telling her I don't care about you and now suddenly she's got to do what he wants to do like I mean it's not gonna happen and Cory was like but if she picks and narice that's me screwed like and Colleen was like but you wanted me to go in like why am I doing what you want you wanted me to go in like what are you talking about it was so weird da saying oh my God Olivia screw rasio yeah welcome to the challenge this kind of happens on the show what are so many people outraged over it yeah I don't like for me personally I it's a good call it's a good call and

40:19 It's a good game move like I said for TV brilliant I mean it gave us something in this podcast to talk about and be excited about so from that perspective awesome we're basically triggered on her behalf in the future if she was to go back and play with the newer generation I think it will screw her but a good point was made by someone in the Life who said that she probably has some good friends with bananas and the Jordans and the Tories of this world who will use the Like a Porn again in this next season and she will probably be okay for a while but she won't win against them you know like how do you I don't think this comments about us Chris we can say it wasn't a good move but there are people that are legit legitimately hate Olivia yeah absolutely she's a snake of garbage she's trash she's you know blah how she is in real life you know she all that stuff and people are legitimately outraged we can go that was a bad move maybe it's going to have game consequences strategy blah but people like she's a horrible person I hate her I hate her I hate her yeah but to me duu that says more about people themselves that have that of hate towards the TV character that they don't know in real life like to me that says more about those people that they feel the need to project that hate on someone else that's on TV like I've never fully gotten it like you can you can

41:39 Like or dislike someone in the context of the game but for me as soon as it's the game's over like I don't go and follow these people and trash talk them afterwards like let them live their lives like none of us are perfect the only difference is most of us don't have cameras following us around 247 otherwise a lot more of us would be in trouble YouTu Bearcat says rasia has mentioned that he has reached out to Olivia but is still a fractured relationship yeah I can imagine andasi is a good guy like he would try and probably can say Olivia had his this Dean headlights look on her face she knew she was making a bad decision and made it anyway hash n's Revenge coming let's see Danica says I think n can make it to the end it will be down for her Michelle at TNT dynamite don't know don't know what we said at the time but thank you kiwi SC for hyping us we love we love we love people telling us that we're right we get it right most of the time but every now and again we do maybe have a take that everybody won't TNT dynamite above I see do you think no like I think we' take turns I think we take turns to annoy the live audience every now and again you'll say something that'll annoy them every now again I'll say something TNT dynamite says do you think of Michaela Natalie Anderson and Justine were on the season the game would be different

42:59 Yeah totally I agree with Ki SK it would be different because those are all very yeah very strong woman love Justine obviously she was great on USA 1 and or the whatever the U World Championship season jeez it's not even that long ago and I'm already forgetting the name of the season and Michaela on USA 2 was great Natalie was great I'm just it's just a shame that Natalie probably won't ever come back like I saw a what was it an Instagram live between her and Michelle where she spoke about the requirements for her to come back and I think it's pretty out there so I don't think we see her again yeah right lucana says in my opinion Jay is very jealous of narice Jay flips out as an underdog with power as under and yeah he doesn't know what to do with from either position Dy D says thank you unfortunately Mela declined 39 justtin was alternate although she did love Island games with Johnny M and Natalie was never called well I think Natalie is like I don't think she's all that interested in coming back so she said something about like the prize money needs to be a million dollars and there has to be like a guarantee that a female and a guy can win and all this kind of stuff like she's got stipulations she's not just going to be stepping back into the show for no reason

44:20 Which is it's like from a Survivor standpoint she's got a reputation so you can kind of understand it but in the challenge she hasn't really she looked like she was going to be a demon the first season she played but she hasn't been able to fulfill that yet so it's hard to have that kind of requirements when you're not necessarily in the challenge Legend as of yet you know what I mean love the soundtrack totally agree with that let's see what people are saying here sort of moving through the comments as well Den saying I'm ready for James Colleen to go Cory Al can go to I don't see any of them doing it in the final yeah I mean that's what they're kind of keeping them around right like a lot of people are saying Mariah is sort of doing a good job keeping James safe but I don't think anybody is fearful of James in the final they saw him gas out in that elimination they were like this guy doesn't have the stamina to do a final so I feel like they're in a good spot and then Ken is another person who like would you really be fearful of running against her no it was funny with this episode I haven't paid a lot of attention to the social media side but I did see something come up in my feed narice took a shot at Mariah saying that she chose James over her an actual friend and Mariah came back and basically said look you are a real genuine friend but we weren't then we got close after filming

45:40 Because of the show so at the time we weren't really that close and yeah James was you know a fling or whatever but I was close with him he did everything I wanted the entire season and the other reason why I was able to do it so successfully and protect him is because no one was scared of him after seeing him in the elimination they're all happy for him to keep going forward so yeah Mariah admitted that in rting saying like the only reason why I could even save him so much was because no one wanted him to go yeah makes sense it's the old the strategy take a layup with you to the final Ki SK 1,000% agree Chris it's a game and should be taken that way by people saw the future cuz I still agreed with you too yes true Ash says just logged in Still Standing Michelle aser love the fact that you're backing your girl all the way we spoke about Michelle a little bit earlier in the live and both kuna and I agree with you I think a lot like I've never disliked Michelle but these times when she plays the victim role that we don't like it I think it doesn't come across well but when she's queen Michelle from Survivor when she's standing up to Jay for being a bit of a douche sometimes and she has that whole mentality of bro come on you know you think you could just tell me what to do that's the Michelle we like and she had a bit of that spice again this episode

47:01 So I do like her I do like the fact that she at least she like I mean Michelle got the best of all worlds in some ways like yes Nissa still pissed off at her but she managed to save one of her two close friends here so I mean that's not bad Jay didn't want to give her even one she found a way to at least get one of her close friends saved in the game so you've got to give her credit for that CU she was she was moving against the tide against the tide of this game and where it probably was going to go with both Olivia and being in danger at the bottom and she managed to get one saved so you got to give her credit for that yeah and she's right like when she's if there's the power struggle between a Jay and a Michelle and Jay's sort of gaslighting her and throwing out everything's because of me I'm protecting you the whole time if it was me if it was you in trouble I'd come to your back blah right but if you look at the relationships in the house and even the confessional that Michelle said she's gotten to the point now where she's been so successful they've run out of people they can waste like it's now at that position where everybody is connected because they've been so good at it and when she ran down the list except for like Emmanuel right now they're all her connections Jay is lagging like latched onto her she's not latched onto Jay she doesn't need Jay

48:21 Anymore right now like she is solid in her numbers Jay is the one who is struggling with Assa gone with Ed gone with like you know he's starting to dwindle a little bit he needs to play it nicer and Michelle is in a power position and I love that about it you know like she's showing that she's the one that put herself there not Jay she's not just going yeah and we're seeing it we're seeing it this season it's been frustrating at times with Jay trying to hijack the direction of the game but Michelle's doing a decent job she's hanging in there Den saying Natalie could go on the USA version she might feel more at home there plus they may pay more I don't know if the pay is necessarily more for the USA version but I do know that viewership numbers are a lot higher on the USA franchise so I would be shocked if the Challenge USA doesn't get a third season it would be shocking for me if they if they don't go down that road and I can see Natalie making an appearance potentially on there the pay would be more because one of the things that has been a controversy in the past is that I know Tori was complaining when they started the new shows is that the CBS people were paid because the way they pay the cast members is a scale on the number of Seasons the long number of Seasons you've been there you get paid more right and the CBS people when they came onto USA and onto the

49:41 Challenge were paid for their CBS Seasons as well so the number of Seasons they did on the on Survivor they were they were recognized as a veteran of that number of Seasons whereas all the people that came from are you the one and other shows not real world and the challenge weren't given that same recognition so Tor is like I was on three seasons of X before coming there and some of these foreign people coming in are getting extra benefits and pay based on their Seasons but we didn't get the same thing so I think USA 2 being all of them are from other CBS shows multiple Seasons would get paid more than say a Colleen from that's a good call yeah and especially for someone like Natalie who's a winner of Survivor you know I feel like it give her a bit more to stand a bit of leg to stand on is saying I wonder how next week will be because now Colin and RI are left who will they put together with narice I think narice has got an opportunity to I feel like I think that n's got an opportunity to somehow get back into the good graces of these people like I feel like a lot of them do feel really bad about narice being in the position that she was in the game you could see Jay was and tears very emotional cuz him and AR were tight prior to this game and he hasn't been showing her any loyalty I feel like he's

51:01 Going to try and bring her back in but i' I think if Nar is a good player here problem is she's just so real she keeps the animosity that she has for Jay Michelle olier she needs to hide that coming back into the game she needs to find a way to bury it and then when the opportunity is right to strike and potentially be the downfall of one of them take one of them out you know denica saying so is Mariah not with James anymore haven't kept up with him like I don't think Mariah and James would it's a longdistance relationship right the UK and Florida like it's you it's how do how does that even work I can't even imagine I can't even imagine dating someone in Sydney if I'm in Melbourne like I mean you're talking different countries here I think it was done as soon as they got on the plane yeah and she messed up a good situation I don't know if it was a good situation but you know and I'm not saying bananas as an angel but she was kind of in with she was kind of in with the challenge crew for that fling for one season James must have been really good it's all I'm saying for to for to mess that up you two bear cap Michelle is no meltdowns to this season doares says I've not kept up with the current couple situation I do think rasi and the r might still be together they are as far as I'm aware they're still together duu Natalie Anderson such a missed opportunity her and West

52:21 Could have been amazing if they played longer 100% what could have been what could have been yes totally Michelle's game not J's D says if Michelle was smart she'd get n re Olivia to have temporary truth and bring have those three run it to the end maybe even bring Berner or Mariah make it a girls final that would be get 100% I wanted to bring up let's talk a little bit about the daily challenge itself what did you think of it like we haven't actually 50 minutes and we haven't spoken about the daily challenge like how did you feel like I've got thoughts but I'm kind of curious to know what you thought about this daily challenge at first I was like I saw the mega structure in the ocean and that's what I love about the challenge yeah but then it was just like Drop fast and do nothing like there wasn't even get flags off the thing while you're going down or you need to collect X's just go as far as you can as fast as you can and really like if anyone had any sense of logic whatsoever as soon as Jame well goes in the first round then anyone after that you just get off 30 centimet and say check like as long as you don't pull you're safe like it's so rigged that way like if anyone was actually smart Cory and Ed don't move

53:41 And you're safe like yeah I totally agree with you I totally agree I think that as soon as James fell Ed absolutely just being probably super competitive maybe had a little bit too much pre-work workout prior to going on to the daily challenge you know was really amped up on it and tried to win it outright there was nothing for him like I feel like he was never in danger if he didn't fall into the water and to lose again to lose Ed this way on something that is a bit of a carnival trick it's not you know it's like what is this like we've got a couple of ropes they got to stops on this rope it felt lazy it felt unimaginative like we always give the challenge credit when it comes to some of the yeah over hand afterwards like yeah that's what I was gonna say har like we talk about them doing the testing on the they didn't test that the rope burn what were those gloves for if not to protect from the Rope like they got they probably gave them like I don't know what type of gloves they were but it didn't clearly didn't work and yeah it was it was a strange one for me like also there was a bit of controversy because people swear black and blue and narice has actually

55:01 Said in lies Haro no didn't do quicker but had no rope available in his like he got further on the Rope Jay when he asked for check still had some rope like some slack rasio was gone like he went right to the tippy top so there was that W but I mean I if there was that and people are saying that's the case to me I assume I assume that it was like levels like within tolerance you got to this far and you know you were both within a feet like two feet of it of the rope and J was faster you know something like that I don't know YouTube said it was a really old school challenge in the one a lot of people asking about the Rope the gloves how the gloves didn't protect them kiwi good in Dan car it's a risky move and she could just them breaking the trust but all she has to do is tell them just to watch them and close they are so it must be a conversation up in the top someone just play the Sens Willie says I wish that harasu won the daily because that would have changed the game I agree like I mean I was so ready for Hario to get power in the game finally yeah but again I feel like some people will say that production rected for a Jay but I don't know I don't know do does

56:21 Production really look at Jay this season and how he's coming across and think oh wow next Superstar this is the guy we got to get behind I guess rasio doesn't really he doesn't bring like the thunder in the confession based on TJ right they would have been rigging it for Haria like TJ loves Haria and K yeah I don't know very strange you could if you squint and are really like cynical you could go it's pretty coincidental that a challenge perfectly suited to Jay his strength R was kind of at the most pivotal time of the game as well like you finally got a you know a rock climber that's been working on ropes for eight years gets a rope challenge right at this point of the game is perfect for him but obviously I'm not silly enough to go oh they did it specifically because how much does a thing like that plan like take to plan out you know what I mean I don't think so I think it would have been digs with the best comment of the day saying also little embarrassing if under armers sponsored The Challenge and the clubes got Absol shreded out there would have been bad advertisement for them youat says the challenges are too big and complex to just move for a particular player I agree D says I don't think production riged I think they would have learned leaned towards sasio N I agree I feel like that's where they would have leaned

57:42 As well because rasio is kind of The Golden Child coming up at the moment like you know you've mentioned it a few times and I kind of agree with it now I don't want to make this a thing but he could be like the new age like he's not the same player so I'm not and I know people hate him when we compare players he's not exactly like him but in the sense that he's the Golden Boy Who sort of doesn't get involved with a lot of the messiness he could be like a Landon of the new era you know in that way like I don't think he's as competent a player as Landon was like I just want to make that clear but I can see him being in that mold kind of yeah for sure maybe even like a LeRoy in some ways as well because Leroy was always the nice guy I'd like to see bit strategy in Social game like he needs to figure out how to maneuver the politics because he's got could be that for him in the future if they come back I reckon she's got the capability to run the strategy social side with him being the power behind that in future Seasons D says Landon has a bit of a temper though he pop off sometimes where asarasi is cool yeah that's true that's true it's probably a little bit more like it's hard to compare I don't know if we' had Landon hell yeah it's hard to like say completely what did you think of the elimination obviously

59:02 Big moment we've got the three of them you know narice Hario kyin going down there did you give narice any shot at winning that or did you think it's tickets for her going into this thing because to me personally I thought harasi was going to come out Victorious we've never seen him lose he looked really good until he got that origami puzzle had the cylinders they had to put together overall do you feel like this sort of secret Conquest elimination is it's paying dividends do you like it and what did you think of this you know I guess as a whole I mean I think it serves a couple of things I still don't necessarily like men versus women equal footing in everything because even at the start of this thing right like you well the big boxes that they had to jump over and like I thought it was funny it looked good in the edit like you see harass just parkour just leaping over and nce comes and goes a serious like it's so big for her she has to jump like it's not fair but then production turn around and go St narice swon like we got it right it's perfect it's equal women can do any like and I think the fact Women are Smarter than men see I think the fact that she did it's not to take away from nce at all but like

1:00:22 It's not the exception that Prov the rule you know what I mean just because it happened once doesn't mean that this is the perfect setup for a finals kind of thing like this like I said if these women were smart they should go down that chain and just pick all women the whole way through and just leave men at the bottom the there's so many ways to game it ese now that narice is coming back and knows what's there as well she should be saying to these women send all the men in like just send all the men in every week that's what we need to do like yeah don't see it's like Zara last week with the ropes over the wall Nar sorry Zara and N are beast so Zara just getting sort of stuck trying to get over that wall de saying do we think that rasu kind of threw it once you saw niss was on her and doing really well and then Dan saying I thought niss was G until the puzzles then I knew she was going to nail it Elise saying Hario definitely wasn't give me 100% and risk killed it I don't think he threw it I actually I'll come out and say I think to me yeah like I think I think that he was definitely conflicted and very proud of her when she won but I think that parasio is also a super competitive person like I mean if you look at last season whole season he wants to win like he even said in this episode I want to win the title more than the money like he's just competitive

1:01:43 He's an athlete I don't see him throwing it even for narice I think she outright won and he just got stuck on that origami puzzle that was the thing that threw him off and he couldn't get it in time but it was really cool to see how happy they were for her when she won similar to how last week they didn't celebrate when Zara lost they immediately went to her to make sure she's okay like just like you said New Legends new favorites new veterans are born in this season and normally if you think about it even when CT came on talking about he never got the shot that you know he's giving Haro and he was constantly someone they didn't want to see in a final similar to how K Maria was constantly thrown in there the people that we love the people that become great at the show long term are the people who have got this journey of perseverance and fighting their way to the top where you feel like you're a part of that Journey as they become Legends in the game we've spoken about that where we feel like I know you're a big fan of Tori but Tori feels like she's been pushed on us people like Jay feel like they've pushed on us I feel like a lot of these new legends that they're trying to create that they don't it doesn't feel the same it doesn't feel like they've had this journey of struggle to get there you know what I mean feels like obstacles have been removed for them to be elevated that's not the case with a nasio

1:03:03 Or with a kand or with a arice or with a Zara in the game right now like these people are going through this we're seeing them go through the trenches and not having an easy road to the top so I feel like a lot of people will be invested in their journey in future Seasons if they do come back so let me throw a thing a scenario out to you if next season 40 is not what I said of all Champions season and they want to be able to take advantage of some of the momentum built off of this season with some of these great characters what is the thing here like I started thinking last night I was like maybe you do the heroes journey is huge with this current season like they're getting Heroes Journey edit like even though they've already out they've already had the heroes Journey edit I was thinking maybe Generations like you have 40 Seasons it's 10 the first 10 season second T like you know what I mean like a decade of who would represent this season or the current gen like generation from 30 to 40 is anyone out of this making like obviously Hario kylin narice automatically get in but if it's 40 people four generations maybe 10 cast members from a five women five men do you think that D I don't think I don't think they will do I don't think they'll personally I don't think they'll go 40

1:04:23 Seasons with the four generations I just don't see it happening because a lot of people who played at the early Seasons probably I like 50 yeah they're too old they couldn't come back and compete against the kids of the day like I mean well the first generation counts CT like C CT deboed in season n or something you know what I mean so there's still peoplebe yeah but it be tough to make up a full it'd be tough to make up a full team I feel like it would it would but what about the current like I would go new generation versus old generation and just have it like the old school legends versus the new school you know it's like I said it's Champions versus contenders or veterans versus contenders Legends contenders so how many people from this season make it into that group over the last 10 seasons of new seasons of new yeah aot a lot they've made an impact when you look at the seasons where we even if you don't like Jay you don't like Michelle some people don't Michelle's in there you know narice is in there kyin haro's in there Zara's got a potential case to be in there Olivia she's got a there's a lot of people I feel like from the season that get start of the season from the start of the season to now the people complaining

1:05:43 About this cast this is the worst cast ever it's battle for a budget Champion like they're doing good yeah but again format at the start of the Season yeah it's the season too long the first now the cre gets to the top like what I said you need shorter Seasons smaller cast 20 people or so 12 episodes make quality over quantity I feel like that's what I would sort of push for but yeah I'm thinking next season probably is going to be like it'll be like some sort of a Legends versus contenders or veterans versus contenders whatever you want to call the type of season my personal preference is Champs versus contenders like so people like a team of people who have won versus a team of people who have never won that would be what I would like to see personally wouldn't be completely one-sided dominant would Emily come back though at leise like I feel like she's been out of it for so long like I don't know if she if she's one of maybe an allars like she did the chamser stars that was two weeks or something I think she could do an allars but maybe not a flagship like I would love to see her come back like I think she'd be right the newest she do well is there anything else that we feel like we haven't spoken about that you want to bring up Kahuna no like I said

1:07:03 I think we this was a phenomenal episode with a sad outcome like we're sad to see who went home but it's really showing how good the quality is of that episode and like I said I'm surprised that I've come around to actually if not liking at least respecting the character of so many of these people on the show like bad or good I think they're building something and I'm high on the season I'm high on these people when in previous season people oh not in previous SE in the start of the Season people have just been on this cast for so long and I'm glad that we're got we're finally going to be able to get a few really good people out of this to continue the show on so as you said Willie brings up there are some people in this cast that shouldn't be should yeah sure some of the earlier people I do think most of the people that are in the game right now well I guess even if you look at let's entertain that for a second like if we look at who's in the cast right now who do we as fans not necessarily care too much about like who's in there for me Colleen hasn't done much for me she's pretty face like pretty girl got a lot going for her outside of the game she's in my opinion not made for TV she's not made for the challenge I don't find her entertaining Colleen to me couldn't care less burner couldn't care less Emanuel couldn't care less personally

1:08:24 I just don't think he's got that piz about him that I'm like oh I can't wait to see what emanuel's going to do next who else is there missing Mariah like 5050 She's Like H whatever James I mean I care a lot but it's not necessarily because of her gameplay you care about Mar like how I care about colen there's like five people immediately that we could just name I'm like do we care not really you know some of the other people thing is though what I'm trying to stress is that I Cory has done some stuff like Cory is like up and down for me as well like but I could see why a lot of people feel that way I could definitely see it yeah I mean every season where there's new people we're always going to get the fodder at the start right there's people that have to be early boots because they're not that great of characters and sometimes they get through and end up being there for the long term despite not being great characters but the fod is part of every season there's always like I don't know if you remember like the one that sticks out in my head if you go oh name a random Challenger in my head I always go gabo that dude like I'm like how did a guy like that end up being cast right but they have to be part of a show because you need people to go out I just think that this season people were expecting that we weren't going to get the same number of high quality people

1:09:44 That can come back right I thought everyone thought that this whole season everyone maybe with the exception of Michelle and Jay and a big T were pretty much one duners but I think we've now Unearthed a couple of Mainstay people that will be able to be used going forward yeah it's been a lot of fun listen that is it here for this week we've had a great live audience here today with us again taking part in the conversation as well so thank you so much for everybody in the live for jumping on I know this was at a different time from when we normally do it we should be back on the normal time next week there'll be no traveling from me I should be back at home but for anybody that is new to the channel That never sort of seen us before consider subscribing hitting a like putting the notification Bell on we do all competitive reality TV here on the channel or as much as we can cover with having full-time jobs being one of the other things that keep us busy so currently we're talking about the Traders us we're doing Australian Survivor and we're doing the challenge so make sure to subscribe and follow us for any of the coverage across all of those shows but for now that is it thank you so much everyone have a great rest of your weekend we'll catch you guys next week bye