The Challenge: World Championship Episode 11 Review

0:01 Foreign [Music] [Music] [Music] foreign [Music] [Music] welcome back to the nullify Tech channel here on YouTube where I've got the TNT takes for you on the challenge World Championship episode 11 that's right I'm back I'm your host Chris as you can see I am back tonight on my own kuna is not here he did stand in for me yesterday on the Survivor 44 coverage and then he's not so well so overnight he's not feeling well but I listened in on that coverage and I think he did a really good job

1:22 So you know hats off to Kahuna for stepping in on a last minute there for us and doing that coverage so this is going to be a little bit different I haven't really been doing solo lives on any of the shows this season but it means that there's going to be more time for me to talk to you the audience let me know if everything is sounding good with the audio because normally I have so I can bounce off to tell me if my audio is working I'm hoping everybody can hear me I'm seeing some comments come in so I feel like you guys can hear me pretty good lovable Nikki welcome back to the live stream here says that this is a spoiler-free chat please be respectful and do not spend the chat thanks lovable Nikki yeah we do like to keep it spoiler free I know that everybody is really excited because we've got all stars 4 coming up pretty soon there's a lot of usa2 spoilers that are floating about I'm doing my best to stay off the internet as much as I can so I can stay spoiler free for That season I really do not want to know what's going to happen before it actually ends up happening Chris welcome back as well oh thank you so much I thought both the boys Kahuna and Jake did a really good job yesterday and covering but it's obviously good to be back I'm a little bit jet lagged I'm not gonna lie I was in the live with Drew's Bakery before this and that kind of kept me going because when you've flown from New Zealand to the United States you've

2:42 Got to get used to all the time differences and things like that and that has hit me a little bit but I think I should be okay for this live especially because I'm going to be talking about this episode and there's a lot to talk about there's a few things that I really enjoyed from this episode Cass wash welcome back Ryan welcome back Danica welcome back as well Kahuna did tell me it's Danica I've been getting it wrong the whole time thank you for being tolerant with me I do that quite a bit yeah it's not a not a bad looking hotel room it's got a very old school kind of look to it I think Dolores saying hi Chris gonna injected fabulous I agree yeah I did listen into that I went back and listened to the whole thing yeah so much good feedback for Kahuna I think he was really stressed during the live sort of having to host it because it is very different when you're like the main person that is hosting it compared to when you're the second person on it because you've got so much more that's going on you're trying to drive the conversation and make it entertaining while reading the chat and I think that you know when you're doing that it can be quite daunting if you've never done it before but you know Kahuna is an absolute Legend I know he's going to be really good at that in the future as well we've got the million dollar Island Australia that we're going to be covering here on the channel and Colonel will be hosting that and you know the last night was just a good practice run for him which I know

4:02 He'll he would have enjoyed that audio is good that's good to know lovable Nikki thank you so much because you know being on the move at the moment I've got a different mic different setup but you know we're getting there we're getting there told me Chris if we can hear you that's good hey Asia welcome back to the life some static I ever can hear you very clear some static that's not good I don't know if I can fix that on the spot angel cake welcome here to live as well kind of saying really sorry to ditch you today I'm in bittering with fever it's okay you'll be you'll be fine next time we'll hopefully have you back for the power rankings could not good job last night as well who else do we have here we're gonna said true angel cake in the chat yes even angel cake is saying I hope you get better soon and Joanne's saying hey long time no see Angel cake we've just been in his Bakery as well so yeah let's get into this episode I personally you know I just came off the live with Drew and that and Drew's been saying you know he's so grateful that the season is almost over and for me personally I'm gonna I'm on the other side of this I've enjoyed the season and I think I've got Rose glass maybe like tinted Rose glasses on or what's the

5:22 Saying for that where I'm looking at it from the aspect that you know I've been enjoying what Danny and Sarah and the newbies have brought to the show I think that the MVPs have made the show very interesting this season because they weren't just listening to the Vets throughout the season and I think that's something that we're lacking in the main show sometimes and it's been good to see them stand on their own feet this season for me personally so I've enjoyed it I have enjoyed where it's gone but I do also see that there has been some times where I feel like it the edit maybe hasn't reflected too well on the Legends and they haven't really hidden like the bad aspects of some of these Legends game as well you know we go I was praising Jordan for his growth and then he had a really bad episode where it showed he still had that Tendencies of trying to have things his way being a little bit it's my way or the highway with Kaz and early in this episode we get a little bit more of that relationship between Kaz and also Jordan and you know Cass telling him how she feels and the way he communicates with her sometimes she doesn't feel like she's an equal partner in this Geo and it really gives Jordan an opportunity to reflect and this is why I do like Jordan and when I look at him sometimes we as fans we can be very quick to say this person they've done one thing

6:42 Wrong they've wronged me I'm no longer a fan I can't be with this person but I know that we're all complex human beings right like when I look at my own family I don't agree with everything my brother says sometimes I think my brother's an absolute idiot but I still love him you know I know he's a complex person himself as well you know and he probably thinks the same about me so seeing this grow from Children Here coming to the realization that hey maybe that competitive spirit that I have how I communicate with my partner it maybe doesn't come across in a good way where it's almost like he's looking down on cares for not performing and it's making her feel worse off and then obviously not including her in decisions and things like that I do like seeing a sincere apology from Jordan in this episode and you could tell that it was sincere in this episode so I'd be really interested to know how everybody else feels about you know Jordan after this episode because I feel like it's almost like a couple of seasons ago where CT did that to us with Big T where he took us on this roller coaster where we're like we're all big CT fans but then we thought he wasn't dealing really well with Big T and then we came back around him it's kind of this roller coaster of emotions when it's like one of your favorites or one of the Legends going through all of this you know but me personally I'm a I'm a fan of complex personalities that's why normally when we've got myself or Drew or Chantelle on a podcast together we're talking I'm always the one that's like you know I don't know

8:02 I like being dream like Sarah but these are all like complex people like they're not squeaky clean and I feel like that's what I like about them because I feel like if you're that way you're showing your true self to us where I feel a lot of other competitors sometimes put on like a front when they're in the camera and only tries to put their best foot forward and don't want to show who they are as a real person I'm less inclined to follow or like those kind of people let's have a look here at some of the comments that have come in I'll go up and I'll read as many of these as I can tonight we've got Chris saying the MVPs have made the show true but the Legends have been doing everything to take away from the good gameplay yes that's been that's been Troublesome so I feel like when people don't like this season they're coming at it from like a main challenge fandom perspective where it's probably not fun seeing people that have been like they're supposed to be the Legends they're supposed to be the people who are representing this franchise go out there and they've been embarrassing so from that good but I think what makes this season good for me is because it's clearly showing some of the inadequacies of the show currently and how they cast and how they allow for people to play like there was this big rant which I'm sure we'll get into at some point on Drew's Channel about the prize money for instance

9:22 And how people are not planning to win it because prize money can be shared you know it's interesting it's this friendship Alliance that we've all been annoyed by and I feel like this season has shown some of these flaws now if production is going to learn from this and if they're going to tweak things that remains to be seen you know I'm a little bit worried because my theory is that they don't really want people on there that challenges the status quo that's my big fear Johnny talksport welcome to the live stream again to say he says to be honest I think Jordan wants to be number one but he knows he's not going to be there until he wins seven championships I think Johnny I've been talking to one of the listeners of the show offline a bit on Instagram who's a big Jordan fan and I do think that Jordan could become number one like I mean he's pretty young compared to the rest of them how old is he now 33 34.

10:12 So he's got a few championships still in him and I do think that he's got to be the hot favorite going into the finale which we can definitely get into at some point as well Dolores says the Legends are not playing like Legends they are not really playing in my opinion yep and that's because there's too many friends there that's the big issue it's been there it's been a theme yeah a lot of feel better kahunas out there Kahuna will get up he's just you know he's just going to take those vitamin C's and it'd be good Andrew cake saying the leaders are anything but legendary this season yeah it's disappointing and I can understand that it would be like you know for me coming from Morphin new school challenge fandom perspective well I'm like you know and then saying that I mean I've pretty much seen all these challenges that are now perceived legends from their beginning origin stories till now so I also have that understanding of where they came from and where they are now that's why I like the growth that I've seen in Jordan like I mean yes is he perfect no but we've seen that Arc over seasons and Seasons he's not the same person that he was when he started some of it's good some of it's bad because we don't see that I guess Jordan wanted to throw himself in this season as well so he still has that like I'm not scared of anything even in this episode he was like call me down if you want to you know so he still has that part of him but it's the fact that they're all kind of protecting each other out there has been has been boring and some of the real Legends of the shows like

11:33 The bananas and that have not really been doing too well like I thought Wes left with his head held high at the end especially with his speech to the MVPs and saying hey you belong here you're taking the show to new heights I thought that was really classy of him he probably went out the most classy of all the Legends Johnny says I wish bananas wasn't eliminated too early yeah I think bananas really have been struggling to be honest with you Johnny talk sports like he's been trying to find his feet like he's been out of the game for a couple of Seasons now he's come back two seasons in a row he hasn't had a really big impact even though I mean hats off to me made a finale last season but he would definitely benefited from being with Nani in that season and I think he just read the situation wrong this season as well coming up against these MVPs who were all legitimate superstars in their own right you know and I think that really had made them struggle you know and we'll talk a little bit about that later on because there's more than I want to say on Sarah for instance and my ass is I will always like Jordan we're complex everyone is great it's very rare that we have black and white I agree and I feel like too many people think that everybody should be perfect like if they don't agree with me on every single little thing then they're not a good person they're against me or you know they're horrible but everybody messes like messes up like I mean think about your friends in real life I'm sure you don't agree with everything your friends do at

12:53 All times and if you do you've got a boring circle of friends just get a new circle of friends love them like you said I did not think Jordan was sincere oh you didn't think he was sincere I felt like you know just in the tone of his voice he seemed like you know he kind of got it I could be wrong I might be reading it wrong but I felt like he was pretty close to tears when he was apologizing like he was getting a little bit welled up Asia saying I love Jordan but he does have those moments and Partnerships where I think I could not be his partner and I think you know as someone that is very competitive myself you know I think that for very competitive people sometimes they just get to that point but they're like pushing and they think that it's positive but you've got to understand how to deal with different personalities and different people need different types of encouragement and sadly in the challenge history like a lot of the male Partners have not been the greatest when it comes to actually supporting their female partners and this is not an issue to the challenge alone like I feel like this is you know a society a societal thing across the board but obviously it is reflected sometimes in the challenge where they just don't get the same respect and that's what chaos was struggling with and I think that's a trigger point for Sarah Lucina as well and why she got so triggered with Johnny Bananas when they had that conversation because she went through a whole arc

14:13 On Survival where she said she wasn't getting the same respect as some of the mail the parts that were in her Alliance which I think there is some truth to that to a degree as well bennica is saying I sort of feel like some of the legions are there just for the paycheck I would assume most are being paid pretty well just to show up yeah I don't know what the story is in regards to payment and things like that but obviously we just went through I know Danica I think you were in the life for Drew's patreon as well where we discussed some of the things that Sarah said on the podcast the official challenge podcast which I yet have to go and listen to definitely going to go listen to it after this because apparently she spilled a lot of tea and she talked about the fact that it was hard for her to go up against these friends that consistently give each other money when they get to the end so now there is an extra incentive to get Jordan to the end because you know if he wins he's probably gonna throw some money away or if Casey wins she might throw some money away so instead of trying to play to win now you're trying to get as many of your friends there so that if it's not your day in the final at least you still get money out of it which is not a good thing in my opinion and yeah I think fundamentally the game there's a lot of things that have been shown this season in the game that I feel like needs to be reworked like we need to re-look at this should we allow for people to be able to give money should they just have a first

15:33 A second and a third price instead of the way that they're doing it now so that it actually encourages you to go out and win because that's the difference for me and some of these new players like Troy and Danny and Sarah and even to a degree Emily how they're playing the game they want to win they're hungry for the title where the likes of a like I think Jordan is hungry as well Jordan doesn't care because Jordan knows I can go against anyone at the end and win Tori I question her decision making this season and allowing for Jordan to go so deep but one thing I want to say even this episode I was so annoyed by this whole storyline between Jordan and Tori and this consistent you know I don't know it's like this romance that people were so Keen to see both of them come back and play the show where it's now getting overplayed and it's a little bit annoying to a certain degree where any little thing that Jordan does really triggers Tori like I mean him just having this deal that she wasn't aware of was this big thing for Tory where to me it's like he didn't go against there he didn't do anything I guess she was angry because if he doesn't win she's not guaranteed to spot in the final but still I felt like she was overreacting a little bit on that whole thing he's just saying I'm Miss West I think he was still in the game it would have been way more interesting I agree any season with Wes in it is interesting I love

16:53 Wes I've always said like you know if there's one player from The Challenge that I want to see go over and play Survivor it's Wes the problem is that if people know anything about this he'll be a huge Target in the beginning and he would not have a chance of saving himself in an elimination unless they bring back something like a Redemption Island or an edge of Extinction or something like that which I'm in Survivor not a big fan of but I think West brings great entertainment you know sometimes the strategies are brilliant and it works out and he wins or sometimes it blows up in his face like it did this season but one thing you'll know with West is he won't be boring and he's always classy in defeat and to me that is the sign of a true champion that is the sign of a true legend someone that can take a loss on the chin when I look at you know the sourness that have come from someone like a Johnny Bananas and you know even the mudsling after he went out of the game still that he's going on about like that to me is it's not like I mean Johnny you've won more than anybody else you know like own that and you are great you have had your time but you know when you lose take it on the chin and move on I think it's really important to do that Dolores says honestly I feel the legend should be put on vacation for at least four seasons they're not doing their job yeah I agree I mean not on the vocational lines but we should just put them like I've said this a few times and I'm a big believer that you should

18:13 This Legend should come back and play the game that's why I'm fearful and I know we're not going to get into the USA too much here on this specific life but that's why I'm fearful for the USA when I see the cast that they've selected for That season because a lot of them are the same old people that we're getting again now in the USA so it's like I would have much rather seen that be a breeding ground for new talent and new strong MVPs to be born that can then come onto the main show as rookies and at least they're battle-harden to a degree where they can stand up to some of the legions or we see a world championship season two which I don't know if they're going to do it or what the plans are for this next one Amaya says Jordan definitely was sincere I just think people don't change overnight 100 people don't change overnight and I don't think Jordan is pretending like he's changing or anything like that I think he is on this massive growth trajectory and you know there's one thing like where a lot of us I feel like can't probably appreciate it but it must be so difficult like when you're on reality TV like I mean in my mind I'm perfect but when I get on reality TV I'm sure there would be certain character flaws that I have that would annoy people and that I'm probably not even aware of and I think that's what's happened with people like Jordan where he goes on the show and he sees himself afterwards and how he acted and what he said in certain situations he

19:34 Probably doesn't feel happy about it you know he probably has friends and family it says man you didn't carry yourself very well on that specific thing and Jordan's personality is complex because he's been a fighter his whole life just you know he doesn't see himself as a victim which he isn't but because he's got a disability like that would have had like put a different mindset for him from a young age like he would have had to over perform to be noticed in his own mind because he would feel like he's starting on a back foot and that puts a chip on your shoulder so I feel like that in itself is a big part of why Jordan is how he is let's have a look here angel cases the final looks brutal can't wait for this week's episode yeah it's gonna be awesome I mean what a stitch up by the end of this episode for Troy for two seasons in a row this guy cannot catch a break he ends up going into an elimination gets battered up probably less so bedded up in this one than his Australian one but then he has to go do a final straight afterwards which is not great when you're going up against people that didn't have to put themselves in an arena and exert any energy it's going to be pretty tough you know and hats off to both Troy and Casey you know they get thrown in there again third elimination they dominate a third elimination down there as well and when and again a match up here where Troy was severely

20:54 Outclassed when it comes to the weight class situation like I mean him running up against yes is a bit bigger than him I definitely think he made the right decision like if I was down there I would not have picked any because Danny knows what he's doing I mean the guy played NFL you don't want to go against some like that we've seen the damage that Facey does in this type of situation and he didn't even make it all out all the way up to an NFL position and then you also have on the other side Jordan who is extremely good similar to Troy's got a really good power to weight ratio so it would have been a really cool battle to see both of them get in the only criticism I would have is that if you're Troy and this would be interesting to know what you guys think and I'll probably read it later on down in the comments but if you're Troy who would you have thrown in there because I do understand why they went for yes and Emily because they did them dirty in the Daily and Emily's been gunning for Troy so this was Karma you know right then I'm sure the producers love the fire that Troy had in his belly because this is the most vocal we've seen Troy this whole season about wanting to take Emily down but I feel like you know you've got to go for the person who's the biggest threat to win the final like do you even want to run the final against Jordan I feel like they should have probably thrown Jordan and Kaz down there and I wouldn't to back Casey to give Kaz a really good

22:14 Run for money I know she's got mixed martial arts background which would have helped her especially in knowing how to maneuver your body and how to distribute your weight with your body and things like that effects you could have done well but still Casey is someone that has played football like American football right so she's used to context board so I feel like they should have taken the shot even if they lost there it's almost better to lose here than loose to Jordan in a final unless there was a guarantee for some final money you know like you know third place is going to give you x amount of money which there is no guarantee as far as I'm aware so I'd like to know what you guys think about that and I'll read it as I go through these comments bonuses Jordan's the favorite in this final but I wouldn't count out Theo yeah Theo's been interesting like I mean if the challenge had like a classic edit like Survivor you'd almost count them out because he's had zero confessionals and edits and we know Theo is charismatic with no Theo as someone that has got really funny jokes and things I mean this episode the funniest thing for me was when he said you know I haven't done anything so we need to win one that's my worst performance who wins one and then Tori and Jordan has this very serious conversation and he's sitting there and he's like you know what I think I deserve the spa or a Jacuzzi after this and you just see him go and sit in the jacuzzi on his own yeah I love you and obviously he did extremely well in War of

23:35 The Worlds but yeah I don't know something's not been there I don't know if it's the dynamic between him and Sarah if they're not you know connecting really well this is the first time he's coming back after a long absence from The Challenge I wouldn't say Theo is my second favorite at this point like I do think Jordan is the favorite obviously with Kaz and then Danny and Tori have just not been on the same page this whole season and I don't know if Tori's mind is in the game really like I really feel like she's a bit scattered brain this season so I'd almost put Troy and Casey as the second most dangerous pair going into this final and that's what a lot of people were saying as well out there right they were really considerate or concerned about Troy and Casey coming back into the game let's have a few more of luckily what you guys are saying amazing I have no doubt Jordan will get to seven yeah if he plays I think he's there size of an ox I'm not too sure what he's referring to there angel cake angel cake angel cake a lot of Nick is saying yes he is typically the favorite when he gets there it's very hard to beat Jordan I mean the last one he lost because he was with Vanessa I really feel like if he was a different partner he could have continued his very high strike rate of getting in finals a mayor saying West loves a speech

24:55 He does wizard speech was class definitely that's how you want to go out I mean if you're a Wes or someone like this or a bananas don't you want to like if this is your last time being eliminated like how do you want to be remembered and at some point this is this was the biggest difficulty for me when I first came into the challenge was there is this love for fans with these people that have been there for years and I understand the respect I understand that you've got to there's like a certain love that you have for the people that have bought the game right they're the pillars of this Legacy that has been built for the challenge but there is going to come a point where these Legends will have to hand the Baton on to someone else and I think Wes gets that he gets that listen we need new Innovative creative players coming into this thing because he's not going to be there forever he won't be able to play this game forever they're getting older and All Stars in the beginning was kind of like this is the league for the older people but now they're bringing younger people in there as well and they're kind of mixing and matching it quite a bit but at some point they have to think about that like you know how do you bring new people into this franchise so we can get to The Challenge season 60.

26:05 And you know the likes of a West and those people I don't think they'll be around that long you know especially if I'm starting a family Chris's question if Jordan wins world championship does it counts toward his record because some people say spin-offs don't count as a legit win example waste is a two-time champ not three even he won an All-Stars three good question and I look at it this way so firstly when they went into the season they counted any of the Championships like Janae came in as a two-time champion they didn't say she you know she had zero championships to her belt so I feel like production themselves counts any of the spin-offs as an actual championship I would have always been of the belief that the spin-offs aren't of the same quality as the main show because you've got younger fitter more athletic competitors that are on the top of their game competing with each other but in reality if you look at the season Chris I believe that this has been one of the most stacked Seasons we've ever seen like across the ball when they had this cast all of us knew when they were coming in with Darrell Jordan bananas Wes all in one season you know how do I like her Tori came in with a championship she's kind of been getting to the finals quite consistently and she is a good Challenger at this point Casey you cannot deny Casey is up there when it comes to consistency Janae has been proven

27:25 To be really good in recent Seasons I mean you can't blame for Janae for going out this season she really had no control over her fate and the one the final I thought it was a very strong cast like I believe that this season should count as a win for Jordan if he does win it because he had to beat probably a more competitive cast than what you would get on the main show like any of these MVPs that came up I don't think outside of the Argentinian team and this is set with all due respect to the Argentinian team I just don't know if they fully knew what they were getting themselves into I don't feel like there was any layups really this season so for me personally I think it counts I think it's impressive if you win this season BBG 95 says bananas underestimated both the MVPs and some of the Legends like kellyanne 100 I forgot kellyanne was legit this season like I mean I know I've been annoyed with kellyanne a few times in the past but you know she was playing man she wasn't leaving anything out there and she won two dailies from memory as well Joanna's saying Johnny should have retired after his last win he feels out of place now yeah it's weird how some people can still be like they still just fit in and you almost don't know the age gap between them like for instance CT like I never felt like you know CT became Uncle CT and he had that dead energy about him but he was never awkward like

28:45 I don't feel like he was out of place and I feel like he could fit in better with the younger crowd like even the season with bananas flirting we've just seen it was just weird like it didn't feel natural to me at all and I'm not a bananas hater I actually like what bananas brought to the show I think he you know without bananas the show would have been worse off because he has given the show so many memorable moments and he is a legend of the game but I think you're right here and I think he maybe is past this Prime and let's see what he does in USA I guess but yeah I'm fearful for him like maybe he should go to All-Stars rather than the main shows a mayor saying bananas has been having a hard time with these new folks he's trying to adapt yep he is and they're just not falling for any of the stuff like I mean even when I had Troy on and I spoke to him and we spoke about like the toast and everything and everybody was like who is this guy they don't understand the history behind him or you know him trying to take lead and things like that so it came across is a bit awkward I think for them double welcome back to the stream it's been a while W says I have no issue with Jordan Politics on All Stars 3 and total madness he got exposed because he had no allies yep yeah and I mean total Madness from memory is a total Madness the one that he won we had to like win every single time when he was thrown no that was

30:05 War of the Worlds too I love the fact that he was being thrown and just consistently won his way to the end and then stole one you know against the Carlos cult and I'm a bakara fan but I mean I'm I was loving what Jordan was giving us that scene season yeah he was definitely you know he was he was portrayed as to her and he was the hero That season you know lovable Nikki is saying to and or say Wes is for the bitterment of the show he does not need the money he'd never joined the vacation Alliance yes I don't think he would ever go there but he doesn't need the money firstly right Nikki like he's got a portion and a Lamborghini in the garage if you've seen his house his house is pretty impressive as well Johnny says people said that after Rivals three but he still won another championship yep Jordan is an actor now stage tears and Maya Baker some people will never think Jordan can have feelings and grow unfortunately it does matter though as long as he believes he can yeah I think Jordan can change I'm and again I might be a sucker because I love it when people show growth and they want to get better and you know I try and do that in my own life like I don't think I'm perfect by any means like I try and be better if I'm like you know like I said I can see the competitive side I can I can get that because I've competed at a very high level in karate my whole life and

31:25 And because of that you know I have some high standards so I think even when I play like Monopoly I'm like don't be so competitive Monopoly like just chill out people are probably thinking you're being a dick you know but yeah it's it can be tough especially if you're like that type of A type personality Danica is saying I think Jordan doesn't realize how dominant he is over other people when he hears it from his partner it's a bit of a surprise I don't think he intentionally is trying to be hurtful I think I think you've got the right denica I think you've got the right to read there I don't think he's trying to be that person it's just it's like a reflex for him because he's just that competitive and he doesn't realize until she set it down is like listen this is the things you're saying this is how you're coming across I do think he's trying to improve like I'm still annoyed with the fact that you know in the moment he wasn't dealing with it well especially when you know Kaz is like you've done a thousand of these eliminations I haven't you know he didn't have a good response but at least he did apologize and at least he's trying to change it's better than you know the Jordan of old I don't know if he would have owned up to that to be honest I just saying yes lovely West is not pressed about the money but when he is on the cast he is here to win literally my favorite Challenger yep John is saying I feel like bananas just wanted to parents check this year once he found out it was a partner splitting the price I think he only wanted to win last year because of Nani

32:45 Hmm that's a good point I think you know he did he did come back for 90 last season and obviously Nani was going through a lot and they've been friends for a long time so that was pretty adorable but yeah we learned one thing hermanani under pressure I don't think work well together they don't communicate well Johnny says he's not my favorite player but I think Troy would be good for the main show I agree I agree and that's why I'm very sad to hear that at this stage I don't think Troy is in the running for it but you know things could still change I don't know if anybody's going out there yet but I like I mean you've got to give it to the guy he's gone to the finals back to back and he does for me give that Derek Kaczynski type of energy the short guy going in there beating these bigger players in the eliminations he's become a bit of an elimination King I mean he's got four out of four record now in the eliminations which is pretty impressive you know this season's been good to watch Castle was saying I'm starting to think Marla Jordan was a clone yeah probably level Legacy is Asia Williams he's definitely trying to win I mean we see most Legends trying to get all their friends to the final West knows how to make good TV that's true angel cake says yes I'd love to see Troy on the flagship show 100 he's got the angel cake entertainment and our fandoms

34:06 Approval you know signed sealed and delivered casting team and producers make it happen get Troy on this on the show as regular Troy suddenly wants to win and wants their money he is welcome on the main show in my opinion yep and especially I think they may miss an opportunity here to get him and Emily both back on the show because I think out of these MVPs Emily is a sure thing I just have this feeling that Emily they love what she's bringing to the show this specific episode obviously they were giving her so many water challenges you know they're like we've got an Olympian on here we've got to do at least three water challenges and I found it ironic that the city that nearly ran out of water probably like four years ago Cape Town was like within a month of running out of water had three Water Challenges there like I mean there was a drought there not that many years ago but somehow they found the water to make this happen to help Emily get to a final and it didn't work for her here but hats off to her in this elimination because we've seen Casey go down there and dominate physically against every single person and Emily doesn't come from that physical background but she beat Casey in a round of hobra which was pretty impressive you've got to take your hat off to Emily for doing that's that Champions mentality that mindset that she had to beat Casey and around and then also

35:26 I was so impressed by Casey because it's easy to lose that confidence in yourself when suddenly someone's beating you at your own game and you're like oh man have I lost it does this person have that leg up on me but again Casey also has their Champions mentality to get back up and win the next rep which was very impressive to witness overall this was probably one of my favorite eliminations to watch I always loved the whole brawl eliminations is my favorite part of the challenge I'm always excited for that and yeah seeing the emotion from Emily at the end man I'm not gonna lie it kind of got to me I was like I'm getting a materion why am I caring about Emily you know but I'm not a hater of Emily's I thought I thought she brought something this season and what she's got similar to Troy is that fighter Champion mentality like they want to win she wants to be at a final so bad you know to the point where it bothers her Troy is 1-1 and she hasn't won one you know and we could have had that Troy Emily Dynamic go on to the main show and you know would they still be against each other would they work together like I thought there was a storyline there that they could explore and the fact that maybe we don't get many MVPs from the show on the main show to me is really like production is going to miss an opportunity to bring some strong players into the game that potentially could push against the vocational lines you know that's what I'm worried about WC Crispin off words count for me

36:46 This is a three-time champion let's face it these finals are harder than they were 16 years ago in Darrell and Co were winning that's a very good point Abu yeah and also the quality I think like I said of these people Johnny talksport says yes Troy on the main series Amy says that mullet looked horrible on Jordan there's a few people I mean that really liked the mullet they're Reckoning that Jordan should bring that money back I don't know he would fit right into New Zealand on the south island of New Zealand when I first moved to New Zealand everybody had a mullet and I was like geez I'm not getting one even if I don't fit in here in New Zealand I'm not getting a mullet I don't think I could pull it off Danica is saying I think Troy and Kiki would be great on the flagship agreed I would love to see both of them back on Amaya says Johnny did a differently for Nani but Emily was his initial partner so he did it for her as well let's have a look what else is here angel cake I don't miss the uncle daddy mullet yeah Asia's saying yes Troy gives me Derek K Vibes he's a warrior we need him on the main show 100 agree Johnny talk says I feel like bananas only joined the vacation lines for Nanny if he was with Emily like he was supposed to be he wouldn't have yeah and him and Emily together would have been a very strong deal I want to see you know I know Emily had some problematic stuff as well back in the day

38:06 I mean I don't have a strong enough opinion about that I feel like she was pretty naive and stupid in what she said back on the show then but you know I would love to see her on the show to see how she would be now like I mean I'm sure she's matured a lot she's grown a lot as a computer competitor if I'm just looking at her as a competitor I'd love to see her on the show from that perspective because I feel like she could give some current people a run for their money sir don't bring you know what over here Janae so Joanne says why won't they cast Derek on the flagship anymore yeah I don't know why they're not costing him like Derek has kind of lost a little bit of his glow in the All-Stars for me as well like I started really high with him second season he was making some dumb decisions All-Star Seasons I didn't feel like he was giving me much like he's not the Derek we remember from back in the day for me personally Danica saying Asia derekay is one of my favorites right I mean especially the Derek from back in the day right and I don't know maybe it is just the OG's he was playing with where I don't know like I don't feel like he doesn't stand out to me by the end of this I don't know if anybody else feels like his All-Stars especially the last two performances were

39:26 Kind of out the assault Uncle Daddy might stand my casting is so hard not everyone can do three months I think that may be a part of why yeah that's right and I think that's why people like Danny and Sarah would be completely out I mean obviously we had this very emotional scene from Sarah this episode where she was struggling being away from her family seeing her kids drawing and you know missing out on being there seeing her son grow up which clearly is starting to really take a toll on her and then also her husband like hey are you having fun out there you're partying it's like he clearly hasn't watched any of the recent challenge Seasons because no one's partying anymore no one's gone wild like they used to go back in the day it's all business these days when it comes to the challenge but yeah it's interesting I feel like Sarah has got this thing where personality wise she's such a high performer someone that wants to compete at the highest level that's why she does ultra marathons and all these kind of things and it's probably getting to that point where a lot of people that I know in my life like friends I've had that have had kids like for a lot of women they struggle with their own identity when they like get kids and they're like oh now I'm a mother and I've got to be this person at home so it means I can't do what I want to do and be a little bit selfish and this was I feel like Sarah's opportunity probably

40:47 These last two seasons to be a bit selfish and go do something for yourself and you know find her own identity in this competitive realm that she loves to compete in but then she's still dealing with Mommy guilt and being away from her son and being away from her family so just clearly played a big toll on her I know some people were like probably not as engaged because they're not Sarah fans like I am but you know I feel for her and for me Sarah is undisputedly now hot take one of the goats of reality TV she's played in five competitive reality TV shows and she's made it to the end and four of them and you can almost say she made it to the end in all five because getting to the merge which is her worst performance on Survivor her first time I think she was the merge boot it's still an achievement on its own it's not easy to get to the merge so she's clearly good at what she does and I think at some point I might do a completely separate video talking about the fact that you know she's a goat and it might be unpopular with some people but you know results matter and she's done really well this season again seeing her this episode struggle with the decision though between Danny and Emily I was a little bit annoyed with it I'm not gonna lie I was a little bit annoyed because I'm like man you came in here with Danny Denny is your right hand person he's there for you like to give you that emotional

42:07 Support when you're struggling and now you're considering like you know turning on him here in the last minute that to me was a little bit hard to watch to be honest but she did come to her senses like I do think even if the stalemate wasn't there she would have still ended up saving Danny in that moment that's why she told Emily this before they went to the arena and they had that emotional moment together it's crazy to me how quickly Emily and Sarah bonded on that deeper level to the point where she was actually considering saving her over Danny like it was a consideration there for a moment which would have really annoyed me Johnny I think Jordan is a changed person I just think they play things up for the show because they need him to be honest may not be on there for much longer this there's like more entertaining ways to be a villain than some of the stuff Jordan does like some of the stuff like how he is with his partner and stuff like could be seen as like being a bit of a misogynist maybe like talking down on his female partner not seeing her as an equal that type of stuff is a bit problematic and I don't think he's a good villain to be honest but in saying that like I don't think he does that on purpose that's my take I know Nikki's like he's acting and that's fine we all have different opinions about this stuff and that's fine I do think that he it is

43:27 In his personality just to bite before you know so but I do think he is trying to change I really do think that he's doing some work you know and they are saying I do think he plays it up yeah he definitely places certain aspects of his personality I think he does play up 100 and he is going to be that next guy I think if people don't like Jordan I'll say don't watch The Challenge probably for the next five seasons because I do think Jordan is going to become a Mainstay again like he's here for the long run bananas is getting older CT who knows when he's coming back with all the stuff he's got going on outside of the challenge he might have to come back and make some more money pretty soon but yeah I'm worried for Herman I don't know if we see him back anytime soon and how long can you keep it going like can he keep competing at a competitive level until he's 50. I don't know I would have been against them though Danica says maybe next season should be Challengers who have not been on for a few seasons they have quite a few good players that have not been on they could do another season with newer players and them I've heard some rumors that next season potentially Danica could be a season without any Champions now if that's going to be true and if that's going to happen I can't tell you but I've heard some rumors floating about that we could maybe get a season with our Champions on there and that would cut out a lot of people if that is the case I mean there's been a

44:47 Lot of new Champions that have been made in recent times but maybe they're trying to give you know Corey his first season get a young buck on the champions list because I don't know if Nelson's coming back anytime soon Johnny talk sports says even if this he made it to the NFL he would have been a special teams player or on a practice squad now specials team player because obviously I'm not I'm not from the US and I don't follow NFL too much I believe Specialist Team player is the one that like runs to the ball when it gets kicked off because I know there's like your defensive team your attacking team and I think your specials team is there and maybe like the ones that kick the ball for posts and chases it so yeah there's a few things I don't know so I mean I'm imagining it's because of a stature he's a big boy so I would have thought he'd be able to like do something on the defense potentially Asia says yes steady car I would love to switch up the cast at this point I think I think we all really want to see young blood that's why like if you haven't seen my video yet on this channel I did one for fresh meats three and I nominated eight International Players four from Survivor South Africa and four from Australian Survivor that I think could be good additions to the to the show let's have a look Johnny said to be honest I would have went for Jordan and Kaz yeah 100 percent I

46:07 Think that would have been the right move it was smarter go for yes and Emily but I would have loved to see Troy and Casey go up against Jordan and Cass yeah would have been would have been amazing that would have been epic Theo's jacuzzi debate may have been my favorite scene of the entire season comedy gold yeah 100 like I loved it I mean feel clearly is a great sense of you know like he's got a great personality and a great sense of humor so we're missing out on so much not seeing her more this season W saying I think they may made right move choice to choose yes and Emily generally I think Troy and Casey can win it yeah so you think Troy and Casey can still win it above Jordan and Cass it's possible man but it's hard to bet against Jordan now like it's very hard but I hope that it's a close final between the two teams like I just don't know what other team could really push them based on the ex sort of past performances we've seen in this season angel cake says I'm still worried about Casey's endurance but hoping her and Troy can get the win yeah on the next on finale episode we saw Troy Kerry and Casey at one point which is never a good sign never a good sign at all Johnny talksports is that yes get that many confessionals and all-stars one I don't know like I mean this was kind of like he came out of nowhere and also that's one and one of the things that was funny for me this episode was seeing

47:28 That scene of yes going back to Troy to say oh man it sucks it's how it is and he still struggles with that backstabbing strategic game because Troy was clearly not having it he's like yeah whatever yes you know I'm not taking it I'm not going to listen to any of your beers so yes they'll struggles with that he was kind of forced this season to play more of a strategic game because of Emily and so forth but one of the things I will give yes a shout out for us I did see online he said I think it might have been on Twitter he said that all of the decisions him and Emily made was 50. so all the hate going Emily's way is not warranted because he was in on all of the moves so if it didn't work like the deal that they made with Jordan and Jordan ending up portraying them and sort of eliminating them early I don't look at it as a failure I mean they had to make a deal it was the only thing on the table at that point now well they always knew that maybe Jordan wasn't gonna do it but again Jordan lived up to the whole thing about saying that they play with honor and integrity which I kind of found laughable a week ago but he proved that's how he plays the game because he did not win he stopped before the end which I don't necessarily like I want to see people go out there and win the Davies but he allowed for Sarah and Theo to win it so he did do what he said he was going to do you know he just basically said

48:48 Emily and yes you didn't read the fine print no AMD did you say I have to make sure you guys win you know which was funny to see because they were under the impression that he was just going to allow them to win lovable Nikki says education entertainment Casey's enduras is trash unless she's worked on it yeah not good Joanne says yep she got she gases out pretty early BBG says I think this cast was so stacked means so that it should definitely count as a title for Jordan if he does win yeah 100 I agree it's stacked she looked terrible in season 37 final Casey may have not been so good in the endurance she has definitely been more likable this season so I wouldn't be mad if they weren't one that's for sure yep I think she's surely she's working on it right like you have to if you've had a couple of Seasons where it's not gone well for you not good at all so everybody's agreeing that she's not good at her endurance but one thing I will say about Casey this season in my mind I know a lot of people have been and I'm included I'm definitely not excluding myself from this have been very critical on Casey when it comes to how much this should bring to us from an entertainment perspective like is she fun to watch like is she a character and she hasn't been when she's been worth Nani her girlfriend and her best friends from Big Brother on there she seems to sit back a lot but this season we've seen a little bit more of this fiery side of her fighting back having to go into eliminations

50:08 I've enjoyed this side of Casey you know Curtis is the relationship fans have with all the bits was Consolidated by sitting many of their real world seasons that's not competition based and so you just get to know and like or hate the characters and that's where obviously I miss out from that because I've never really watched Real World I'm more into the competitive reality TV side of it but I get it I get 100 that's there and that people will be loyal cash wash says that KC Billings together for Troy's sake otherwise I need him to drag her I want the boy to win 100 kellyanne made the season yeah kellyanne was phenomenal this season like I really enjoyed it and also I like the fact that she was like no screw all the vet alliances and people playing to be able to get on the main show and be in a final maybe in next season I'm playing this season to it I don't care and that's what I want to see more of like kellyanne in my opinion she can go to the main show let's put her on the main show because she wasn't the Sheep she didn't follow the rest she played her own game and I respect that I feel like Joe Janae coming into the season she was seduced by that Alliance where she was kind of doing their work in the beginning because she was like oh if I do get onto the main show maybe one day I'll be cool kids that's the feeling I got but kellyanne definitely didn't give me that vibe let's see

51:28 What education is a great canyon is Queen for spicing up the season yes one of the legends that actually performed for us Co division says sorry livable Nikki says Kona Vision very true I've been here since the beginning Real World New York Road Rules won the first Challenge season Road Rules All-Stars these are my babies yeah I get it like I get why people come out like wanting to fight you know because it's almost tribal like when you've watched it since the beginning Emmaus is bananas probably will do All-Stars But ultimately it's about pay for him yeah so are you saying that they pay less fall stars because I feel like if you probably look at it's almost like pound for pound like if you almost have to work it in like how much do you get paid per day you know and All Stars is becoming a pretty big payday if you're only out there for maybe like three weeks versus three months and you're still able to win like half a million dollars it's not a bad payday I think Danica says I think the new people should take a week to catch up on the challenge history learn the personalities and traditions yeah it's a fair point it's a fair point I mean if you were to go and play Survivor I would say you know learn about previous players get to know what they did and what they didn't do you know so that you can learn from that in the game and definitely when you're going up against vet I think the problem that there is Danica

52:48 For new players is probably that it's intimidating and like there's so many seasons that you've got to go watch and there's like some of the seasons can be hard to even get I guess most of it's on Paramount plus now especially if you're in the US but if you're like an international MVP coming in as someone that is international I can say it's really hard to get your hands on all the seasons of The Challenge globally so I think it's a big problem for Global players when they bring them in when he's calling Ashley's Ashley Eminem's mom a bit lackluster this season I feel like he's still the theory we all know and love it's just the camera has not followed him like it's not been the story about Theo's triumphant return to the show because if it was we would have seen more of them 100 think we would have seen more of them Emmaus is the fact that Amber B loves Jordan I trust her judgment yeah true Amber's seen like posting in pictures with Jordan recently which is quite an interesting trial that she was in from memory Johnny talks Sports this rumor has a bananas gets paid a quarter of the price money just to shut up wow that's a lot I wonder what western you know CT gets if they if they go and play a man says Johnny for sure gets paid six figures a season man well if you're if you're the goat I guess you know

54:08 You can demand that pay Kunis is when TJ said B to yes and Emily he gave the I hope to see you both in the future it's a good sign I 100 think that Emily is loved by this production team because they protected her and her crew immensely in the challenge Australia they didn't show some of the bad stuff that happened and they're still censoring it right now like you I had an interview with Connors and parts of it couldn't make the cut I'm not allowed to talk about it but for those that know that are online that follow some of the stuff that happened behind the scenes all I can say is there's some rumors out there that have pretty close to being accurate so you know and she was part of that side so they protected her from that and some who have Grant to a degree yeah I think they love her I really do think we see Emily back icono thank you for jumping in man get better soon go and rest up Danica says we could have people like Tony Zack Kara Jenna there as so many that could be on another world championship with International Players yeah I agree Zach is a little bit worrisome like I don't have a problem with Tony time Cara obviously everybody knows where I stand with current Maria massive Stan and I like Jenna but I feel like if Jenna was to go out there and

55:28 Play maybe you do need Zack out there otherwise he might just phone her up again and make her want to quit the show again which would not be good but yeah I'm not the biggest sack fan but again like you know if I'm being true to saying you should give people an opportunity to grow and prove you wrong and that they can they can learn then maybe you should give him another chance should 100 be on global I agree that was crazy that she wasn't amongst the Legends but maybe when they first cast it they weren't sure if they could get her back on she was still like on the outs I think with them we're now probably she's now after being back for All Stars four maybe she's back on the on the roster educate saying I'm looking forward to All Stars four but maybe a little break first we aren't getting a break it's been non-stop angel cakes like just bang season after season I'm looking for tall stars as well can't wait to talk about it definitely at some point we gotta we gotta get the trial back together I know it's been hard with different schedules not matching up and things over but at some point we've got to do this especially when all stars are there maybe the end of the season we get to download a little bit of our opinions get to bounce it off each other because I know I'm normally like the Wild Card I'm the one that's like got different opinions to I feel like the most different and out there opinions compared to yourself and should help but even you guys have got your own opinion so I think it'd be good to sit down dad was saying

56:49 Total Madness was when Wes bananas put him against fessi in a pole wrestle impossible to win yeah I remember now yeah that was that was a lose-lose situation for him Jan says I can't wait to see the trailer four stars four yeah it's gonna be fire I can't wait I just know Cara Maria is going to be all over it because she's going to dominate this season guys It's the Return of the queen you heard it here first Joanne says I think Darrell said on challenge Mania that Danny was done doing the challenge apparently he didn't even want to do global interesting yeah it's sad because I mean I can understand why I don't think Danny is also this Family Guy and I think he didn't enjoy his experience out there this time but one of the weird things with Danny is even though he didn't enjoy it even though he sees he's done he's been very active on social media engaging with fans and things like that so I feel like you know he maybe he can be persuaded again in the future for like a world championship season two if he is like an automatic draft as a previous USA champion or something I don't know Sarah said she's done two yeah I'm not surprised it saddens me because I feel like for me personally my take on Danny and Sarah is that they are pushing the game in a New Direction and they're kind of showing a lot of the things that are wrong with the game like people playing for friendship money being shared which is why

58:09 You don't always play the game to win on yourself you know being totally against throwing themselves in for no reason and things like that like it's just they've been like the voice of common sense for me this season separately in the future Seasons I agree I think Tori needs a break we've seen Tori on like how many seasons now like bring Jordan on his own for the next one Lena sang Darrell's interview was very eye-opening I'll go listen to that Lena I've got a bit of catching up on podcasts to do but I'll definitely go listen to that it'll be interesting to hear what he's got to say Joan's saying double I felt bad for him I assume that's the poor whistle Angel Cake's saying I could see Danny and Sarah are not thrilled with how the season experience ended leaving a bit of taste for them yeah and I mean obviously we know that Tyson was already out Angela was already out prior to the season and I think it also led to why when I look at the USA 2 cast I think in some ways it's a downgrade even when I look at the players that they've brought in from Survivor I don't feel like it's the same caliber of players like we've got on the first USA and maybe that is because they're like we don't want people that are at a certain level because they will have certain demands or expectations so we'll go for people that have been not a part of like the Survivor possibility of coming back or

59:29 Like almost like legendary status Danny didn't necessarily come in as a legend from Survivor but Manny in my mind he's just gone up and up in stock like since he's been on the show a man says Jordan will probably won't do the next two seasons because of is it hates racing I don't know so I assume there's something else he does outside is right the vacation lines is going to kill the challenge franchise slowly and methodically yep they need to break that thing up very quickly Sarah isn't a pickle She's sort of portrayed herself as a villain when it's not a great look for law enforcement officer she should watch how she acts or if it could affect her day-to-day job yeah I can I can see that and listen the thing with Sarah is that she's a Cutthroat player like even a Survivor that was a big thing for her like she's like I'm gonna make the best decision for me to get to the end and win the money and she said why is one of her biggest arguments in survival was why is it okay for a man to do that in Survivor and people look at that person as that guy as a strategic Mastermind of the game right but when a woman does it automatically they're a Villain Like because women can't be this villainous betrayal player that's why we don't have many great villains when it comes to females sometimes in the reality TV world so I think she's got a point where there's like this double standard between the two and my opinion on reality TV is that whatever you do on reality

1:00:49 TV should never be a reflection of who you are as a person outside of the game because like someone earlier said Jordan plays up certain parts of his personality for the show Sarah probably does the same like you're on a it's like a game it's like when you play Monopoly just because you're playing villainous you know and you're buying out all the real estate from you know the person who's struggling in the game doesn't mean that you're this terrible person in real life it's a game at the end of the day but some people take it very personal and I hope it doesn't affect her personal life outside she doesn't deserve that in my opinion the mayor says they don't have to cast the vacation lines as a whole but I think that they're the slim pickings because of the three month thing yep Troy welcome back here to the live always good to have you I'm just doing the solo review it's more of a general chat about the challenge and then whenever I can insert something about the episode I do it's been a lot of fun reading all the comments and just interacting one-on-one with everybody Amy's saying Emily and yes we're crazy to choose three time Survivor player one time winner over their own Australian team I knew Survivor sorry Sarah would cut Emily from the beginning yeah Grant try to warn her but I think that it's hard when you've just got more in common with a person you just naturally gravitate to that person and I think Sarah and Emily connect as both being strong woman who are very athletic and into this Sport and have got a very competitive personality about them I just think they

1:02:09 Can through so the Cutthroat Sarah come out this episode because her eyes man when Emily was competing that was the most intense that I've seen her eyes this whole season was it was that level Where She Went Crazy on USA almost you know yes Salad to Troy everyone always good to have Troy here in the live I'm so far behind on all of these lights I'm trying to read as many as I can I might have to skip a couple as we're going through here yeah definitely congratulations Troy making another final it's insane you know insane for you to be able to get there again and you've just got bad luck man like constantly being in these eliminations before you go into a final which is crazy yeah Emily is a world-class athlete definitely gonna saying she got duped in the challenge by Jordan told her number one age was going in and it's against her Rivals she wins the first round and then loses to someone smaller she then had the field position balling while Casey and Troy ring the bell even more one of the most humiliating defeats ever yeah I mean listen it can only be one winner in this right lovable Nikki says Jordan did not honor that deal Chris well I don't remember him saying that he would help them with I just remember him saying he would not win it himself and

1:03:29 Stop in front of the finish line but she did so I think he honored it the most thing you honored the deal yes and Emily just didn't understand what he truly said 100 he never said he'd help them one I didn't hear that unless they edited it out service Emily's backup number one ground was Emily's number one Sarah needed to stay with her number one Danny agreed Sarah did stick with Denny yeah I thought so that whole thing where she told Emily she was going to put her in I agree I think that showed she was going to choose Danny It's just sad that she like was doubting it at one point and like Danny had a good point in saying well you could have told me because I don't mind being the bad guy I think the team in there that I want to throw in there you know double saying am I the only one that expected Casey to body Emily in that whole world doesn't she play rugby no I thought Casey would win 100 it was impressive that Emily actually won one it was very impressive because Casey did that for you know at a very high level I don't know it was like division one or whatever she got up to but she's she was basically at almost a pro athlete level that's what she did Emily's large and Aussie were both different yeah but I mean again even if you're large like Emily I think the thing that for Emily really came out as her fighting spirit that I'm a you know Olympic Athlete type of feeling came out like she doesn't quit I think her heart even more so than her athletic

1:04:49 Ability really carried her in this episode for me personally angel cake said I thought Troy and Casey were going to win the whole brawl to null going in with surprise him he got a win exactly it's impressive it's really impressive for her to get that win no one else has done this to Casey yet on the challenge right so it was good to see let's try to say Hey guys does anyone know I don't maybe someone else does I try and avoid it as what I normally do is I would look at to the point where they show us who the casters and then at that point luckily they're really good at saying don't read below this I won't read below that Asia's saying Emily annoys me a bit but I don't mind her she's a lot less annoying than Lola did as an Olympian playing the challenge I think Emily is like a good potential villain but I don't know if production sees her as a villain I do but I think she's interesting because she does have strategy she is very competitive and the fact that she cried at the end for me like we don't see a lot of people show that much emotion when they go out because they're like we're just going to get the call next season like if any of these Legends or MVPs sorry vets go out of the game no one cares because they know they're getting the call next season that's why it's it means so much more but I do think she's coming back Chris says please no spoilers okay

1:06:10 Yeah I wasn't rooting for her but still like her as a villain and a competitor let's have a look choices yep very protected let's see I needed the trial back together yeah well definitely at some point at some point we'll definitely come back together we're gonna have to talk about this Cutie's saying well Casey said she thought she had won the first round two she said bell ring was closer than what it looked on TV wow so it was very close one of the things cutie that I will say it's interesting how you know when she did get beaten in their first round she still came back strong and that to me was impressive to see because a lot of people just you know that show's case he's got fight tonight in her because no one has given her their push up until their point and she came back and won the next one so hats off to her Amaya says Emily just gives a dark Bobs but I'm okay with her being on the show Jenna and Zach on same season shouldn't happen can't handle the way they fight especially since they're married yeah it would be bad I think it's kind of like a Jordan tourist situation I don't want to see this cutie saying no Cara Maria can't beat Laurel yeah she hasn't been in Laurel in a she hasn't beaten her yet in an elimination from memory but you know it's always the first for everything it's why I love sports you never know

1:07:30 What's going to happen you know Emmaus is Tony is bananas adopted son so I definitely miss him yeah he's back on All Stars as well Sarah and Danny were pushed away for not being pawns for the Vets that's kind of how I feel Jacob BBG says Darrell and yes both mentioned that Survivor players have a different approach than typical challenge players and they were very smart yep I agree I think that's why you need strong Survivor players on the show like not that I'm saying that Michelle and Jay aren't but I just don't know like Michelle has always had for me a question mark on how good she really is and I don't think she's done well in the challenge and then Jay's a bit a little bit too sporadic not as calculated mayor says team Laurel always she needs that second one love Kara though Amy Says are they saying that they're done because they can beat Jordan that's unlikely to win any money no I think they just didn't enjoy the experience in total I think Danny and Sarah just don't like playing in this version of The Challenge that's the only version of The Challenge they've ever played in and I don't think it gets any easier for them like if they go to the main show there's going to be even more allegiances to other people that consistently comes back with the application Alliance Curious Thing Casey is too thin for finals she needs to prepare her body by eating carps and drinking Gatorade coconut water Powerade so that her

1:08:50 Body doesn't break down in the finals yeah she is actually quite lean but she's got a lot of muscle like strong for her build Cass watched his cutie I don't know what they've made me laugh it's so specific yeah I feel like cutie should be like you know it should be Casey's like trainer give us some training advice before she goes out there again facts they need to go back to having second and third yeah 100 need to do that usa2 having MTV players is an interesting choice MTV definitely wants to make the show CBS very true very true let me see I've gotta skip over a couple of comments here there's so many coming in but thank you for being so active Casey said the second round she had Emily so hard and Emily could not recover yeah I could see that I definitely could see that I think that Casey just knew she had to up it in that second game like no one's actually pushed Casey yet and it's like you know there's that famous saying no one knows how good they're going to be on a fight until they get knocked in the face and that's what happened to Casey and she's got their Fighter's mentality so hats off to her for standing up and getting it done in this episode trying to see if there was anything else that sort of stood out that we haven't spoken about here in this episode my hot takes here for this episode is that Troy is proving himself

1:10:10 As a badass and I'm not just saying it because Troy is in the live I think Troy could be the new Derek he should be on the main show The Producers should phone him get him back out there a la the fire Troy had in his belly towards the end here and how open and brutal he was in the confessionals about the fact that you know he was going to go for Emily he's gonna he's gonna take out of the game I really enjoyed seeing that side of him because he was very calm throughout most of the season Jordan and Kaz definitely going into the end game I think is going to be very difficult to beat especially since Jordan has made peace with Kaz they seem to be in a good place with each other you need that cohesion going into a final and Jordan is a beast Cass is going to be able to run with him I think she also definitely redeemed herself a bit here in the puzzle part of it and with the math that she had to help with I think she was the one who sorted out the whole puzzle and then Jordan just sort of worked off that so it shows that you know she can do it and that we shouldn't be looking in too much in her doing extremely bad on that first math puzzle that they did Danny and Tori love Denny but I do think he's anchor tutorial this season and Tori I don't know like something's just not right with her like she's more worried about Jordan and what he's not telling her at the end game when it shouldn't matter as much then actually just going out there and winning like I'm I'm a bit worried for

1:11:30 That I don't know how Danny's gonna do going up against Jordan I know he didn't want Jordan in the final but seeing him there it's going to be tough so I think Troy and Casey in my mind they're the pair that I'm looking out for to challenge Jordan and Kaz the most the most battle-harden having gone in so many eliminations recently they've had a lot of opportunity to work on their teamwork they basically did two dailies almost every single day because they had to do the daily and then also the elimination which gave them double the amount of time to practice but they are going into this final with a disadvantage because they just came off an elimination so it's going to be tough for them they don't get any recovery time to sleep overnight and get ready for the next day they have to go straight into it so that's going to definitely come into play and then Theo and Sarah like I just don't know where to place them like as a team I know they've won this one but they were struggling to do this puzzle and if they didn't have the help of Kaz and Jordan I don't know if they would have gotten it I know Theo can run I think he's good at that I know Sarah's not two bed at puzzles and she can was kind of in some ways even though I'm a big Sarah Stan I have to say she was kind of Lucky to win her season with so many people falling out in front of her so it's going to be interesting to see how things play out here a little a last couple of reads here through some of the comments that are coming in Amaya saying Jay Michelle

1:12:51 Think too far ahead while also not thinking things out yeah and I think Michelle's too emotional like she gets very emotional about certain things and I don't think that you know this is where Sarah and Danny was like we don't want to get emotionally involved we want to make clear decisions and they and they Sarah didn't get emotionally involved until Emily was her only option at the end so some people will say well she did get but it's the end game it's hard it's always at some point it's going to catch up to you I feel like Michelle gets very emotional from the start which is not good and Jay's a little bit sporadic in his strategy doesn't seem like anybody really trusts him Kitty Sanctuary is a beast and tough to beat yes Troy's been awesome this season give it up for Troy Davis destroy has quickly become a favorite of mine yes we need more Troy fans up there so we can get Troy back on the season Asia's saying this season showed way more of Danny's personality even but now I'm like yes bring him back yeah I'm the same I wasn't on the Danny train for Survivor I was always like I am biased as hell like I know my own biases and as soon as the Survivor player goes and plays The Challenge I'm going to support them I don't care who it is I'm going to support them and Daddy was like automatically he's part of my tribe going into the challenge but like even in the season that he won it was like he didn't really give me much but I was happy for him this season he's been fighting he's

1:14:11 Been like very vocal I've been loving what he's been doing he's been in breakout Superstar for me this season so it'd be a shame if we don't get to see more of him in the future I mean I liked any but I still don't get it Danny seems awesome man I'd love to go have a barbecue with Danny Danica is saying I liked any better last season this season he seems unhappy yeah it's sad to see him not enjoying his time out there but I really like the fact that he was being the voice of reason this whole season like he was basically pointing out in my opinion A lot of the things on the show that's not great with the Friendship stuff and you know not making strategic decisions not voting out the person that potentially could take the money from you in the end like there's a lot of things I found myself agreeing with Danny more than disagreeing with him I just say really I barely noticed them before he won out of nowhere yeah he was very quiet I mean the only thing he said Asia that whole season was Kiki this Kiki that and I feel like he's gonna go back to Kiki and say why did you tell me to hook up with or connect with Tori this season because Tori did not help my game whatsoever dedic has saying Troy is used to that they did the same thing on his season where are you going to be in Florida I am currently in Orlando and I will be in Tampa as well then I'm gonna go to the Bahamas and

1:15:31 Then I'm coming back up this way before I go through to Canada so predominantly between Orlando and Tampa it's the main areas that I'm going to be so yeah I'm looking forward to it so far it's been awesome the weather is great over here I've even gotten a little bit burnt today which is great you know get a little bit of color I may say Tori seems like she isn't there she needs a break even Jordan said she should never do more than three shows in a row I think that should just be standard for everybody not to do more than three shows in a row BBG 95 says Michelle is good socially and physically but she never she never been good at mastering strategy yeah I agree I don't think that's her thing she needs that person there that she can bounce off almost and Jay was not that person like I feel like if Michelle and Sarah played on the same season she would do well or with one of these people that like you know is bitter strategically in the game like I said she gets too emotionally attached amazing Sarah lack partner chemistry yeah it's I don't know it's weird like I don't I don't I don't get that relationship well and I think it's because they just haven't shown us much of them reality realness Chantel welcome in the Life says okay so you need to settle the score between myself and Drew and what order do you think these four teams will complete the final okay so I've got Jordan and Kaz as the favorites for this

1:16:51 I just think that they're going to be tough to beat the whole thing this season was we need to take Jordan out before the final and he got there and Kaz is not bad and I think that we saw Kaz and Jordan make up before the final for a reason because we needed to see their chemistry working prior to going into the end and Jordan's got one of the best hit rates in The Season's history so like why would you bid against the guy second I've got Troy and Casey because I feel like they're more battle-hardened and they've you know not only done dailies together but also eliminations which has given them extra time to work on their team chemistry food I've got Danny and Tori and I think last I've got Theo and Sarah I just feel like Theo and Sarah we haven't seen much from them so that's my fault be interesting to know where you guys are sitting on that as well Asia says I agree I may I actually like Tori but I think she needs a break at this point it's a little sad she can't even play the game now yeah and she even does podcasts about it so she's constantly in it Denny McRae Hey welcome to the live always great to have you here as well you've just so you know Danny while you're here absolutely loved your season so far you've been great this season I think that you brought attention to a lot of things that have been broken in the game for quite a long time and I think it's a good thing for the show I hope they realize that some of the things you pointed out and being

1:18:11 The voice of reason out there is a good thing and hopefully you know myself angel cake and relative illness get to talk to you after the season because I'm sure there's a lot you could share about the show and your experience we'd love to have you on and congratulations definitely for making the finals back to back that's not easy to achieve well done brother says Chris you're only an hour away from me I'm in Melbourne welcome to Florida it's great yeah thank you so much I'm enjoying it here at the moment people have been really friendly yes everybody says hello to Danny before Danny care or Danny denica for some of the reason it's like I always go into before Danny but I know it's Danica watch out for the afternoon rainstorms they can get bad really okay I'll look out for that yes but no Kiki stories this season I think it would have been confusing thank you my man Troy what's up man hope all is well yeah the Troy's in the chat as well a mayor not taking breaks because your perception of reality dwindle Dolores oh my goodness Danny is in the room is it possible to be Starstruck in a chat I'm kind of loving it because Danny was always my favorite is Danny's manoon Great this season Troy saying all

1:19:31 As well loving you in at the season it's awesome to have both of you on at the same time everybody's going crazy because we've got two players here in the life this has been a great life everyone I hope it worked obviously we didn't have Kahuna here for this recap and review for this episode but you know I try to answer as many of the comments as I can give you guys as many of the opinions as I have you know I've really been enjoying this season I know that for those that are fans of the legends of the game which I'm not saying I'm not but I do think that you know this has kind of shown them that there's a few things about bringing the same people back over and over again that have kind of broken the game to a certain degree so I wouldn't mind seeing more strong MVPs like Danny like Sarah Troy people that are standing up to the house get them in there you know mix it up a little bit for season 39 so we can see New Legends being created in the show so that's my takes here for this episode talking about the latest episode I can't wait to hear everybody's thoughts in the finale to hear what will happen at the end and to see who's going to win this show I think that like I said Jordan and Kaz is going to be tough to beat in the end they should have taken him out before this but obviously there's been many people that have been protecting Jordan none so bigger than Tori herself but yeah it's going to be interesting to see how it breaks out I'm very excited to see we'll

1:20:52 Probably have Kahuna hopefully back by next week so we can talk about it we'll have to get at some point the crew of myself angel cake and relative realness all together so we can give our final thoughts on the season I can't wait to talk to everybody I hope that the live worked out in the way that we were doing it was a little bit impromptu compared to how we normally do the lives here but it's been great talking to everybody's been phenomenal and asking questions taking part in it if you're new to the channel consider subscribing hitting the like button putting on the notification Bell it is the best way to be notified when we're going live also when you help the channel grow and we get more people subscribed to it we can reach out to a lot of the great people like Troy who's been on the channel before Danny who's just in here now which I'd love to have Danny on at some point if he's willing to talk on the channel as well we can reach out to more of these players and get them on for some exit interviews and get their thoughts on what it was like to play in this season Kahuna is saying so we got Troy Danny Drew and Chantel in the chat and this is the episode I miss here what an episode to this right gahuna the nullified take I'm just north of Orlando wow so many people so close here cool live guys have a good night yes same to you Joanne thank you so much for doing the back to back lives as well as you're saying we love you Kurt I get well soon yeah Kahuna is going to get up he's going to get the vitamin C's

1:22:12 In him and he's gonna be good thank you so much angel cake also for being here for the whole life really been so great talking to everybody catch you guys next week this has been a great live and thank you bye