The Traitors USA: Season 2 Cast Reaction

0:00 Welcome back to the nullify take here on YouTube boy we've got the TNT takes for you on yet another reality TV show it's been the season of traitors 2023 and it sounds like we're gonna be finishing this year very strongly with more information coming our way about traitors USA season two that's right baby we've got spoiler accounts on the loose a certain couple of spoiler accounts that normally spoil challenge cast members have come out and have started spoiling traitors to the point where peacock now has officially released the cast as well because I think the cat was out of the bag but I brought in two people here with me that you are all very familiar with Kahuna and Maki who have both been covering Traders with me this year so obviously kuna covered Traders Australia with me and Mucky is our traitors specialist because he did both traders in New Zealand and Traders Australia and very soon we'll be hosting Traders Canada here on the channel Maki it sounds like I'm gonna be working you over time in the next coming months because it's Traders Galore buddy well what can I say the hustle don't stop baby you know your number one Trader specialist is here to do all the hard work once again for

1:20 Chris you know Chris you're like the poster boy you know you're like every podcast you know you're looking all glamorous and sexy but I'm the hard-working Hustler you know behind the scenes doing everything for you but now I can finally take some credit and you know officially start doing the nullify take into the muck you take you know so as long as you don't mind up the take then I'm okay with it yeah we've had a lot of Mucky takes throughout the history yeah there's been there's been some interesting takes but I'm really interested to know who Mucky is gonna look forward to seeing on this season because kuna I brought you on because I think between the two of us we probably cover the widest range of shows in the US and we've got a bit of an idea of some of these players that are coming in and this cast I have to say looks like a very heavy hitting cast I even said on Twitter maybe one of the most heavy hidden casts that we've seen since winners at War and Survivor yeah they went down the All-Star part they got rid of normal people all together it's not just a few celebrities they're going hardcore 100 we want all celebrity all the time and they went hard they picked a very strong cast maybe like potentially a little bit too much if they're if they're shooting all their bullets in this season

2:40 Whether you go for upcoming Seasons which is going to be an interesting you know choice they have coming up I think there are still some people left on The Cutting Board or cutting floor when you're looking at certain players in the Big Brother era like they've got the goat from Big Brother arguably the goat from Big Brother on this season and we'll talk about him very soon but they've also got two of the goats from The Challenge arguably the Two Goats from The Challenge they've got two legends from Survivor playing the game one Legend was rumored to be on the show and that was Boston Rob myself and Kahuna actually spoke about this prior to hitting record today and Mucky what do you think about Boston Rob not making the Final Cut not being good enough to get on the show what does that say about the rest of the cast how heavy-hitting they are yeah and the other males on the cast must be you know pretty massive for them to cut bust and Rob off you know he's a great poker player great Survivor player probably one of the most dominant Survivor players in the US but that's obviously you know debatable and yeah now I was I was a bit sad to see that he was rumored on the cars but then he was not on the official cards because I feel like having him poverty and Sandra though would have been the perfect original Traders it would have been obvious that there are Traders I feel like each of them

4:00 Bring so much different strategies into the game of Survivor and all that have got some kind of some juicy beef between each other on who's really the best out of them three because I've all been like heavily praised as the goats of American survivors I think they're all wanting their title on I took up Boston Rob and poverty or I took out Sandra and Rob you know so yeah kuna you had a really good theory prior to hitting record in regards to why Boston maybe didn't make the cut and it wasn't just because him and CT maybe would have been too hard to understand because they would have been doing their own thing with the Boston twang if they were talking too much on the show there would have been just too much Boston that's going on and you know CT is kind of like the Boston Rob of the challenge and you couldn't have the Boston Rob of the challenge and the Boston Rob of Survivor on the same season but you had a bigger theory in regards to why you think maybe he didn't make it on the show this time yeah it's not based on any sort of fact but looking through the list like we saw it sort of come out yesterday like oh Boston Rob I know yeah I you pointed out Boston Robbie made the fight I didn't even clock originally because I just had him in my head from yesterday that he was in but I thought similar to what I was saying before like they've gone really hard they've kind of gotten the goats from Survivor they've gotten the ghosts from The Challenge and if this season goes like if season three season

5:21 Four where do you go from there like especially in the challenge ranks or I mean the Survivor ranks with Sandra off the list with Boston Rob off the list with poverty off the list soiree's done it last season you know you got you got a Tony you got a few mother a few others play but team TV baby you've got to get yeah of course but you got to save you got to save a couple of you know bullets in the chamber just so you can take your shots later on Lance do you reckon Russell Hans gets the call maybe one day I mean controversial for peacock yeah he's probably like and I think it's part like he's his game is very obvious and I don't know in the trailer game isn't it is I'm wondering if the personality that drives that game is as adaptable to a game like the Traders or he would just be like too gung-ho like what if he throws someone's socks in the fire and they're like this is not Survivor Man like I'm here to him so it'd be funny yeah it would be funny I would enjoy aving they're saving Boston Rob for another season yeah that blew the budget on all the All-Stars and you know that Boston Rob would have given his appearance fee and it would have been up there probably to make an appearance on the season so maybe they're saving that for next season who knows maybe if we're lucky we get three Traders at the end we won't spoil anything for people who haven't seen that outcome before and

6:41 They can afford to have Boston Rob on next season but let's read this article that came out on today and it came out today they said you know ready for some more backstabbing they released the full cast They then there's a few people here that I don't know so Traders season two who's going to be on it we've got carstenbergie bergerson from love Island USA known to viewers as bergy custom Ferguson appeared in season five of Love Island USA which premiered in July but ew who worked as a Dairy Queen manager and previously described himself as a hopeless romantic ready to give his heart to the woman of his dreams I don't know if this is going to be the show for him Kahuna yeah I feel like you're maybe the one person that would know something about love Island you look like someone that maybe would check out love Island casually sometimes but I know that Mucky is not the most successful when it comes to the love Island stuff so any of these romantic dating shows you know and I can say that Mucky you and me you and me in the same boat okay and I love Island's bad for me ever since my application got rejected now I'm not aware of Love Island USA at all I just I mean someone who works at Dairy Queen saying there are hopeless romantic red they give his heart to a woman of his dreams is not what

8:01 I would consider Traders material or faithfulness or maybe considering the last season of Traders Australia season two he could be a good fit for the faithful maybe and fairness and fairness we don't know any of these people that come from love Island so you know maybe there is a player within him you know I don't know how good of a player he was on love Island you know was he a player or was he just you know not that good we'll find out I think this season now this person here CT to day did whom absolutely dirty with this picture man there's so many good pictures of CT out there he's been on so many seasons of The Challenge that they could have chosen from but they chose the one picture where he looks like a homeless person and let's not forget that this guy is the second most successful player on challenge history right so here's what if he's seen as one of the two goats a lot of people argue that he's the god of the challenge right so CT tomarella is no stranger to reality TV he first appeared on real world Paris which by the way poverty nearly got casted on and then last minute I think there was like something where she had to pull out but she was going to be on his real word well Paris season before Survivor and then obviously she went on to survive there and became a Legend So finally CT and poverty who are both now single which could be a good thing for both of them are

9:21 Going to be on the same season and a reality do you want to watch Love Island you do wanna I just want poverty I just want poverty to be happy kuna you know I feel like poverty deserves it and I also recognize everything you could make her happy Chris you could definitely make her happy listen I feel like I could but I don't know if Bobby's gonna agree with that you know they say shoot for the stars and then if you don't reach it at least where do you land to land like you land on the moon land on the moon there you go so you never know you never know you know at the end of the day CT great casting Choice he's really good with the physical stuff but I think a lot of the times Kahuna people forget that CT is also good at the social game they forget about that because how many seasons he's has he gone on to where he's the biggest Target and people don't throw him into anything because they're scared to go up against them or he becomes like you know he reinvents himself like he's become Uncle CT in recent Seasons yeah he's become the fun Uncle everybody he wants to hang around with as he's become the older person on the seasons that he's played in he's got a really good sort of one suit punch in that he is intimidating for physical challenges which doesn't really apply to the Traders as far as being solo or one-on-one but as far as being able to help the team get silver bars or whatever they have in the

10:41 Silver bars in the US as well I forget now I think so yeah but I mean obviously he'll be able to dominate those physical challenges but his other side is that he's incredibly sociable he's a fun smart likable guy and he can fly under the radar a little bit like despite being a Target he's often not targeted not just because of the intimidation Factor but because he's kind of Switzerland he doesn't take sides in the house when there's big divides he isn't often like even though he is the vet of all vets and kind of gets labeled with that he's not in with the vacation lines from The Challenge as much and can kind of float between and be the guy that everyone goes to it like you said Uncle CT and the thing that's underestimated about CT as well because of his physical prowess he's incredibly smart maths wise very smart puzzles yeah very good and I think if it wasn't one of this there's probably a few people in this class coming up where if it wasn't for the fact that they may be an obvious pick like we thought Luke Toki would be in Australia I think he'd be a great Trader honestly I think he'd be a great Trader as well and I think that he could play it down to the point where people wouldn't think he's a traitor and like you said people will underestimate him because a lot of people don't even realize how smart this guy is he's such an all-rounder when it comes to reality TV so happy to see CT come into the season now this next guy

12:02 Allow me a moment to Fanboy you know Dan giesling is one of my top five favorite reality TV players of all time I never ever thought that I was going to see Dan back on our screens again he's become a very successful twitch streamer he probably loses more money by walking away from twitch for the two weeks that they're gonna record then what he stands to gain by winning this so I feel like he's taking a risk and for a long time he didn't want to leave doing the twitch stuff to come back and play in Another Big Brother season but you know the first season that he played he's a big brother champion magnificent lost all of his allies very early on in the game had to reinvent himself two or three times in that season play the underdog win his way from the back up by very good strategy and great social skills and then came back for an All-Star season with only three other players that were returning players there were four captains which he was one of them coming back into a Big Brother season and as the biggest threat people were already saying that this guy's the goat he's the best ever play I always debated between him and will Kirby who's another top five reality tv player of mine that I love and he's such a big fan of wolf Kirby he actually took Kirby's game and added to it when he came back onto the show and to play but you know Dan at

13:22 The end of the day came back and dominated Big Brother twice as not many people who can say that they've done that he didn't win the second time because he was a previous winner and people helped that against them but he played the best game and you know I think that Dan if he's not a Trader it's going to be an absolute waste of bringing Dan back because this guy has got the ability to be a Trader and for people to think he's a traitor and still like he could be what Sam was and Traders Australia where he will make people believe he's not a Trader even when it's obvious like Sam has got nothing compared to what Dan can do when it comes to manipulation so happy to see this guy I know both of kahuna and Maki you probably don't know who Dan is right so I don't know if you want to move on from him only by reputation from what I've heard as soon as I saw him cast the internet went off like they were legendary can't believe that he's going to be on so yeah no I've not seen it but from everything I've seen just people spewing his Praises I he's got he's got a lot of hype and a lot to live up to in my eyes because well so many people that I trust have said it even if he comes back and flops out because he's got like I would argue his reputation is the equivalent and even it's bigger than Sandra's because a lot of people still doubt sandras 2 wins no

14:43 One doubts dad's credentials like the guy was dominant it's like Tony Black Horse coming in to play the game it's that level of reputation that he's bringing with him so I feel like even if he flops out it does not taint his legacy whatsoever this guy is god tier and will always be and for those that only watch Traders and say oh well why didn't he do well there they're missing the point they need to go watch the original Seasons that he's played in this guy is amazing so happy to see him come into the season this next fella is Deontay Wilder known as the bronze bomber Deontay Wilder has accomplished heavyweight boxer Waldo has also showed off his athletic prowess and Beijing Olympics in 2008 and took home a bronze medal he seems like he should be casted on the challenge to be honest kuna he'd be much better when they say he's a beast he's huge he was he was in a feud or not a feud but I think it was a trio of natural maybe two big time like against Anthony Joshua who is the World Heavyweight Champion so he's at the peak of boxing or was he kind of had a couple of losses and people started doubting his the mental side the Killer Instinct the member mentality and now he's applying it to the Traders so we'll see if the knock on him is definitely not physical but maybe that he doesn't have that killer instinct we'll see how it sort of applies to a show like the Traders it's fascinating

16:05 But even then I decided to go back there was a player on Traders New Zealand his name was Kings and even he didn't have the Killer Instinct I guess you can say you know well one of his opening lines or in the city was oh my mum told me not to lie and Paul Henry said well your mum isn't here is she so yeah but Kings brought so much entertainment with just like scrambling gameplay obviously it wasn't a mastermind of the season but with just the entertainment he brought on not being a mastermind you know he made a couple mistakes here in their strategic wise so just adds all the fun to the game right and I feel like sometimes people who don't expect to be strategic like one of my favorite players in churches well I just want to add I just want to add to that boxing coming from like obviously I've never done anything at Olympic level but coming from a karate background having competed in karate growing up there is so much mental work that goes into fighting that people don't even realize you know it is setting people up for a trap so you can counter and boxing is no different in regards to that he would have some sort of strategic mind it's just can he apply that to the game of Traders that's one of going to be the big question about him but to achieve at the level that he's achieved clearly he's a competitive guy so I'm hoping that it's

17:25 It's going to be better than I think it was lucky that we had in season one who was an Olympic swimmer didn't really add much to Traders season one in U.S so I hope it's better than that right Brian Lochte though was renowned and mocked relentlessly for being like a dumb guy like he's he had things like he was on Saturday Night Live after winning gold medals and stuff he was very famous and he's just he just comes across as yeah like a Dopey nice guy he was not healthy I don't think he Deontay Wilder has that same reputation at all for sure let's move on to this next person it's going to be good luck Chris good luck so cool no glue we all gonna give it a go no that's not going to be entertaining but it can count remains on season eight of Love Island but recently broke up with her bow David San Clemente per U.S weekly the couple won't won the reality dating show date at least then a year so again another love Island person I don't think there's much we can add at least one of you two want to jump in and say something I mean she's recently single login yeah that's what I'm saying the next person again we're talking Legends here in the season Janelle three-time Big Brother

18:45 Player the powerful Blonde Barbie the original Barbie from Big Brother she's someone that is a challenge Beast would have been phenomenal at the challenge if she was like in her prime but she played most of her Seasons I believe in the early 2000s to early 2010s and then sort of came back and All Stars too to be the first player to play an All-Stars 1 and all-stars 2 and All Stars two for her and big brother didn't go as well as her previous two outings playing the game but both first Seasons that she played she went very deep into the game she was physically really good strategically she was very sound so I'm very excited to see what she can bring she's also done The Amazing Race as well with Brittany Hayes another player from Big Brother as well so a lot of people are freaking out about having heard in this season as well her Dan giesling two very good friends as well they overlapped on one of the seasons that actually I don't think about it she may be like a full-time player season six seven and 22 so there you go seven season six seven Fourteen and twenty two she's a full-time player and she was also played with Dan so a lot of experience five different shows she's been on for reality TV I'm excited to see what she can bring to this season from both a challenge standpoint because

20:05 She's gonna bring it but also just to see socially and strategically how she's going to do and she's very vocal as well which I really enjoy she's gonna be good TV is all I can say in regards to having her on this season I know you guys don't watch it so we're going to move on to the next person here Johnny Bananas give us a little bit of an intro on bananas why is bananas of any significance coming into the season so we mentioned CT as being one of the goats of the challenge this is the other one this is the seven time champion ring fingers full of rings from his championships on the challenge he's arguably the goat because he has the most number of championships he's a physical he's smart he's social like in that similar to CT he should be a Target every single season but for some reason whether it's his smile I don't know but he kind of gets by a lot of that is on the strength of his networking and that he's got friends around him and he insulates himself well and there are seasons where he can't do that because everyone's out to get him and then he relies on his physical and he can actually get through eliminations he can get through challenges and if you get into the end he wins but that doesn't necessarily translate to the Traders however I do think like he

21:25 He's come out and said on recent season of The Challenge like you've said Chris that he doesn't stab you in the back he'll stub you in the front And discussing before the podcast you said I think you're full of because he'll do whatever he needs to do and that's the type of attitude he has he stabbed someone in the bed he tells Sarah rice did he tell her beforehand he was gonna steal the money and the challenge no he just cold-heartedly Mucky went to the final with this girl he did the whole season with her she's as do your partner at the end because he had a better individual time he could decide if he wanted to share the winnings For That season with her or not and he stole all of it so she got nothing after going through the ringer with him for a whole season it was hilarious to watch thank you that's why I personally trust oranges more than bananas you know so there you go hashtag trust the oranges he's also going to be on House of Villains coming up as well so really he could have yeah he's got the he and he's hosted on he's hosted his own shows on TV he's been on he's got the memories yeah he knows what he's doing as far as creating good television and I think we're going to see it a lot this season yeah I'm so

22:45 Excited to see bananas if he's a traitor or not a Trader he's that kind of person who will play both parts of the Season really well doesn't matter if he's going to be a Trader or not the next person is going to be John burko John burko might be a newcomer to reality to you but he's noteworthy in his own right burkos the UK parliament's former House of Commons speaker I know that Andre Lee freaked out about this guy being on the show and I don't know anything about him I've got zero I don't know if any of you two yeah you don't follow the UK politics either do you Mucky he looks like the guy from The Hunger Games I wanted to say you kind of look like Boris mate like you know the previous prime minister of the UK If you if you don't follow politics I don't but the fact you think I'm a prime minister oh okay it really blesses my heart Chris I didn't say yes maybe I've got a secret identical twin who knows let's move on to the next one now this one here Kevin Crider from blink Empire it's from a Netflix reality show called Bling Empire and confession timing from me this is one of my guilty pleasures I actually quite like Empire so I watched it I watch it pretty casually I think it's been two seasons so far and Kevin is The Playboy of that season

24:05 So he's the one that normally goes out he's 37 38 still single playing the field I think it's in La that they shoot at normally it's kind of like a Kardashians type of show with very famous and Rich Asians in the US I have to say I've got no idea how he's going to translate to this show like it kind of feels like a little bit of a left field choice to bring him in hopefully he does well because I really like him and bling Empire he's one of the more tolerant cast members from That season I don't know why I watch it because sometimes you're just like what are these people on about because they're really obnoxious rich people but I think it's because he doesn't come from that wealth he doesn't come from that generational world he's actually a bit of an outsider in the group where other people have got like so much money and can be full of themselves quite a bit he's sleeping his way to the top is he yeah you could probably say that maybe I don't know maybe he got in touch with the right producer to get on the show like but yeah he's like the most normal one out of the group I would say so it's interesting that they chose him but don't know how he's going to do this season happy to see him on it moving on to the next one I think this is somebody that you know right I'm excited not because I know anything about the Real Housewives of

25:25 Miami let me just put that out there but that last name she dated Scottie Pippen right her ex-husband Scottie Pippen is one of the greatest basketball players of all time top 50 NBA player original 99 2 dream team they have a son together named Scottie Pippen Jr lhasa hooked up with her son's teammate yeah like the age difference there at all but I it means also that guy Malik Beasley can always say to Scottie Pippen Jr hey I did stuff with your mum like always hold that over it you know what I mean and Will Smith yeah and then to make this even better again I don't know anything with Desperate Housewives the next contestant Chris if you scroll down a little bit yep his last name is Marcus Jordan that is Michael Jordan's son okay I did not know that's that's pretty cool that is Michael Jordan's son who Larsa Pippen is currently dating no ways yo man I mean so hats off to her hats off like she's doing it right there's always been like a bit of a thing like my Jordan and Pippins Michael and Scotty to Michael vote like the greatest duo in the history of basketball

26:46 But there's always been a thing of like Scotty thinks that he may have been better than Jordan if Jordan wasn't there right and Jordan knows that he's Michael freaking Jordan and I just love that maybe I just think a little conspiracy theory in the back of my head Michael Jordan said Marcus I want you to go after Scotty's wife because then I beat him my son my baby boy is sleeping with your wife Scotty I win that's Michael Jordan's like crazy as he's suddenly become a lot more quiet since this has happened I'm sure he's not in the media as often anymore spouting his things around I don't know I haven't watched the show I don't know her personally I know that history and for someone to go leaving Scottie Pippen to go out with a son's teammate and then later go that's Savage Michael Jordan's son is so insane so I don't know what that's going to mean for the show but just that little sordid history brings like Giggles to him you know what I mean just while we're on the subject that she is my pre-season winner pick oh she's already won in the game of life let's be honest like she doesn't need to win she doesn't need to win the show like her just doing what she's done like she's doing it right she's going down the line I

28:06 Would be if I was Marcus Jordan I'd be worried about like you know LeBron James's son after this you know like I feel like you know a couple of years from now she might trade him and move on yeah LeBron James's son I'm not gonna even try and pronounce that last time Dancing with the Stars So Max and Rose to fame is a professional dancer on Dancing With the Stars he's now married to his co-star fellow dancer Peter and a couple has two children doesn't tell you much being on Dancing With the Stars being an instructor maybe he'll have a lot of patience and let's be honest kuna he's gonna need it having to deal with bananas and some of the other sort of celebrities that are playing in this season because there's some really high maintenance people on the season so maybe that patience is being a coach a dancing instructor will come in handy yeah I could apply it to some of the challenges as well perhaps balance and coordination is often important so yeah he's probably a fit guy too I'm assuming like you know I have no idea I'm just basically you know generally he needs to apply the Liam's strategy and just become friends with the traitor and then he'll find us himself in the finals he'll probably make sure you don't know that yeah moving on to the next one here we've got Mercedes MJ Javit from Shahs of Sunset brother fans will recognize Mercedes

29:26 MJ Javit from reality series Shahs of Sunset her love story of her husband Tommy Faye was followed on by popular show and the couple recently celebrated their fifth anniversary I've got nothing on this let's move on to someone that we do know and this is the reason I know Mucky has been silently sitting in the corner waiting to finally have an opportunity to bring someone I know someone you're finally you're useful you're useful why is poverty so important and why is this such a big deal that we're seeing her on this new traitors season I mean she's you know you look at the Mount Rushmore of U.S Survivor and poverty is you know rock solid on there right you know she's played four times I feel like her first and her last performance was you know I could be the worst performances she had but even then for when I was at War you know I could actually have no shot because she had you know a big Target on her back especially with all the old schoolers going up pre-merge but I feel like this is going to be massive you know where Survivor and Traders are a very different game the reason she had no chance in that last season that she ran into real life friends they were playing the game together and Wendell and Nick and Michelle right so she had no chance to penetrate that because this was an outside of the game relationship

30:47 That came into play and also she just had I believe her baby daughter not that long ago so she was a new mother we know for some people that takes a little bit of time to get that cut throat in his back but it's been a couple of years now since winners at War so I feel like she's mentally probably in the right space coming into the season Bucky yeah and you know she's this well known as a flirt she's single now you know so I'm sure she's not afraid to let that sort of side of her out there yeah she's very strategic as we all know and I think she's going to do quite well I think she's going to struggle because of the whole idea of the you know because in Survivor everyone is afraid of the all-female alliance because of what Harvey did in Micronesia so I feel like that stigma is always going to follow her everywhere no matter what social goes on to so I think it's just gonna have a bit of a hard time because of that because do you think that these other people watch Survivor do you think they know about Survivor well it's a certain someone on the cast which still one of the biggest debates one of the biggest debates who do you have your money on who do you have your money on is poverty gonna Outlast Sandra or Sandra going to get one over poverty because we know there's this big beef between the two of them coming into the season that's going to be good who do you think I think probably is going to Los Angeles this time oh I think the other way I reckon

32:07 Sandra is going to school poverty this season I reckon Sandra's just got too much experience and I also think Sandra like she really knows how to play with that threat level we spoke about it in previous podcast where the more she plays the more impressive she gets because she owns her status as a queen as the queen of Survivor which poverty is also a queen but she's not the queen of Survivor which is where the whole battle came in Kuna who do you have tiebreaker who do you have do you think it's the Sandra or a poverty win this season I think like we talked about you said have has anyone watched Survivor like I don't think bling Empire love Island all that I don't think they've they're die-hard fans of Survivor and what about Marcus Jordan do you reckon he watches it oh I wouldn't I wouldn't think so but I do think between the two of them I think Sandra might be more recognizable just because of the two win thing and being the queen and has been on other versions I don't know if that translates at all but it's a new song there's no there's no Home ground Advantage sorry I just want to add also between the two of them Sandra is the one I think that is the most in touch with the online reality TV Community like she goes to Hearts of reality she hangs out with a lot of people that are from I think the reality

33:27 Realm of TV where I don't know if poverty does like I feel like poverty for a couple of years disappeared to their own thing where Sandra's really locked in like I would say she's got a very good chance of knowing some of these people but one of the exciting things about poverty playing this game is that poverty has been rumored a few times to almost make the jump onto the challenge she's put in the casting process a few times we're just timing didn't work out and she's now going to get the opportunity to play with a couple challenges this season as well so it could be interesting if there is a bit of a connection there potentially because of their casting process we spoke about CT and her nearly being on the same Real World season so maybe there is a few connections that poverty can pull on and maybe she'll relate to some of those people a little bit easier than Sandra and that could be a risky call but I still have Sandra just by a little bit I like to imagine that the when it's putting a cast together the producers will ask very pointed and specific questions do you know about Survivor what's your history of this do you know this person have you heard of that person and I'm hoping that can help inform who they pick as Traders because everything about the Traders the way the format works I think it comes down to the cast and do you have capable competent smart Traders and on the other side capable smart faithful because we saw very recently what it's

34:47 Like when you don't and the Traders can really run rampant and dominate so if they decide that this cast does not know enough about a Sandra poverty to say they can't possibly be Traders because they would instantly just be assumed to be then they may get a shot in and both like really manipulate their way through this game which we know they're more than capable of what I want to see and what we need for everybody in Survivor to be happy because I kind of feel like you know when Mom and Mom is fighting and we the kids had to sort out the issues right now that's what's happening with poverty and Sandra fighting so what I feel like Traders need to be the marriage counselor in this situation and give us what the fans want put poverty and Sandra both in the Traders camp force them to work together this season or to try and mend some of those Broken Bridges between the two of them because all will be well and our dear little monkey my younger brother will be able to sleep soundly at night knowing that poverty and Sandra has become best mates again Mucky is that what you're hoping for here as well do we hope that we see both of them you know Mom and Mom making up and working together this season I think I mean I'm someone who loves like the idea of the battle of the Titans right the best gun games the best right and so I would personally love to see both of them as Traders

36:07 But they're both gone for each other you know similar too yeah they definitely will but I'd love to see you know that sort of epic battle happen to you who really you know can put themselves at the top because I think both of them can be equally matched because it was very close between poverty and Sandra on who's gonna Heroes versus Villains and you know even though Sandra has proven himself time and time again she's never made the merge again since coming back right and do I mean there's probably since when it's in serious first villains but I feel like yeah they're both equally matched like you know strategically and socially it'll be really great to see who can finally like take that Badge of I outplayed this Legend right so yeah but I don't think it'll change anything in survivors you know for instance I think that in Survivor Center will always have the bragging rights even though love poverty as well like I'm excited to see what you can do this season let's move on to the next one here peppermint from RuPaul's Drag Race Kahuna what do you have for us she better work I watched early Seasons That's why I know that phrase and I had it I used to work with a guy whose name is rupain and every time he walked past

37:28 My desk I'd say RuPaul rupeen's Dragon Grace stir and then yeah and if he'd asked me a question I'd give it to him and then say you better work and just throw RuPaul references that's the only extent I have so I would do that but I don't know peppermint I mean like she's a performer obviously used to you know covering herself in different disguises Etc it's a Persona I'm interested to see what they would be like outside of that and if in a house like the Traders where you're living there waking up and having breakfast and all that is it full drag all the time and how does that prevent people from connecting with you or assuming that you're not giving your real identity or can you know what I mean like I'm interested to see how the Persona plays out in a show like the Traders yeah moving on to the next one here we've got Peter Weber The Bachelor similar to Mucky what do you think monkey as an eligible bachelor over there in New Zealand what do you think of seeing a bachelor making it over onto the show well as the Bachelor of pack and save cleanliness I can I say there's a lot of key social skills that goes into the bachelor right you know you've got all these different people coming at you so it's like how do you socially exactly how to fight them off how do you socially adapt between one

38:48 Business to another yeah we had some interesting DMS in the night coming through to Maki you know so he's yeah there is a strong with Mucky you know there is a strong The Wizard of Oz right here you know of course if I was ever on Australian survive and they have those dramatic titles mine better be the wrestler of pack and save cleaners for those that in America don't know what packet Savers it's like a big Supermarket basically so you know Mucky works in the in the meat section so he's a lot of the times when they when they look at him they just see a piece of me you know it's one of my greatest reasons [Laughter] no but I mean I'm excited to see a bachelor come and play I feel like they're sometimes is strategy in The Bachelor but it's just not strategic strategy that kind of makes sense right because you do need to have a good social game to weave your way around people because people do get upset people do get jealous my stepmom watches a bachelor all the time so sometimes when I come around I watch the episodes with her and you know I do find

40:08 It quite funny how one guy's able to socially adapt himself to all these different people everyone's got these different lives and personalities so he or you know obviously there's The Bachelorette as well so he and she has to match their personalities with the other people to see who they like or they don't like and yes I think this guy is going to be quite social throughout which the social gaming Traders is the most important I would say out of all aspects so yeah I reckon he's going to do quite well yeah I like that moving on to the next one here we've got Phaedra Parks from Real Housewives of Atlanta Federal Park started the Real Housewives of Atlanta from 2010 to 2017. she now dabbles in several projects on her Instagram page she describes herself as an attorney to the Stars mommy mortician model actress and author so wow a bit of a slashy when we look at that she's got a lot of different things that she does I mean who doesn't need an attorney who is also a mortician you know what I mean like that is fascinating yep as far as being a multi-hyphen I've never seen that particular combination of words put together in a sentence before so I've known nothing about her I know that I think Real Housewives Are the biggest faction in the house so yeah if we're talking about survivors teaming up we want to see Sandra in poverty or other

41:28 Challenges going to stick together I mean real housewives are going to dominate on numbers like so if they can figure that out and vote together if none of them are actually Traders or whatever it could actually go well so who knows especially if she's an attorney mortician model actress author yeah moving on to the last person here or no not the last yet but moving on to the next person here Sandra Diaz twine from Survivor one of the two goats of Survivor two-time winner and my winner pick for traitors this year as well I think that yeah I think Sandra has made for the Traders I reckon this is going to be a season the only fear that I have Kahuna is his spiciness like we've seen it if somebody crosses her will she be short-tempered but this is an older more matured Sandra now that have played even in Australia like I have to back her because she played an Australian Survivor you know she came over here showed some love to this franchise brought her daughter introduced us to Nina twine who also became an All-Star in Australian Survivor and I was very impressed with that season when she came in because she should have been the first person out being a two-time champion coming into the game how she was able to let people sort of forget about it for a period there where they wanted to work with her in the game was very impressive to see so it does depend on if she becomes a Trader or not but I reckon if Sandra is given the

42:48 Trader mantle seeing how well it went for Surrey last year I feel like Sandra's got the tools in a toolkit to do really well this season but it does come down to does she become a Trader or is she just one of the people there because if she's not a Trader then I would vote like all the big stars I would be like Dan's got to go Sandra's got to go anyone that's good at reading people and they can figure this out needs to go I take the bachelor guy to the end I take Kevin From Bling Empire to the end I take Marcus Jordan to the end I take the people that I don't think is going to be strategic that's the flaw of Traders right kuna yeah absolutely big stars out early yeah you gotta Target that anyone that can pick your game if they're not a Trader then you I mean you want to know how influential she is on a show like Survivor the grandfather of reality competition shows she was picked for island of the idols all right was that was that the season where she was the mentor with Rob like and to be the person to pick as the Legend of the game to Mentor a whole team and just another example of how completely influential she would be you mentioned before Chris that CT's photo looking like a homeless Wolverine Sandra gets a photo from 25 years ago but she made sure she's like gee you better you better respect you know yeah I

44:09 Don't want I don't want current day I want photos when I was young and looking a lot different so the example of there's just always things go right for Sandra there you go Queen stays Queen Mucky queen says Queen yes slay no I'm really excited to see Sandra come back and I think you're right I think Traders is more up Sandra's alley than probably Survivor but something there's no sit-out bench there's no City and but you know something to give send your credit for an Australian Survivor as well something that you mentioned Chris first on vote out because normally shoot two-time winner the Australian Survivor is extremely physical compared to the other survivors and Sandra who's most well known for not doing well at Challengers participated at every Challenge and is most and like she still made it you know pretty decently fast so she's definitely got a great social game got great strategy yeah I hope she goes really far all right let's not forget she's a voice of the fans she wanted no part of age of Extinction she was like screw this twist I'm out of Survivor yay no Khan the farm there Chris edge of extinctions you said you were only here for 30 minutes all right that's the monkey's gone

45:29 For the rest of the podcast let's get continue on here are you gonna behave Mucky no age of Extinction is a good twist okay oh man Jeff Probst is going to be on your phone real quick to get your own for Survivor 46 or 47. I'm gonna call hello is that on your Shane Blackberry Rock all right the next person here Cherie Whitfield from Real Housewives of Atlanta don't know anything about her I believe it's still might be no we've still got a few people here per Instagram picture everybody feel holds a lot of titles including mother author designer Fitness enthusiasts that's good for her entrepreneur executive producer and television personality so she's got quite a bit going on quite a lot of experience by the looks of it I don't watch any of real housewives when the website that covers this stuff is trying to put forward a case and all it can do is pull what you wrote in your Instagram description that's not a great sign you know I mean like if you're just going off their own Instagram description as to what can we how can we hype this person up on a web on our website so we get views and you're just using her own description from Instagram probably a finalist probably a finalist let's be honest yeah it could be probably making it deep in the game

46:49 Moving on to the next one here Tamara Judds The Real Housewives of Orange County as a staff The Real Housewives of Orange County Tamara judge has learned all about keeping her friends close and her enemies closer after leaving the show for two years judge returned for season 17 which premiered in June again don't know much but as Mucky said oranges over banana so who knows maybe Tamara won't be able to do it again they have the numbers and they'll be good at like I want to see at the round table if there's a glass of water anywhere near them because you know in the discussion someone's getting splashed in the face if there are like real housewives Style yeah wakuna you've got the mic and I believe this last person you know better than even myself I know trachelle from The Challenge All-Stars I saw a play in all Stars when she came back but because I wasn't an original challenge fan in those early years I haven't seen all of the earlier Seasons that she did play in but I do know that she's got a bit of a reputation on the challenge some people love her some people hate her so it's a bit of a controversial figure well an example of her reputation is that her name is trishelle but is often referred to as trashell as in that she's trashy she was the she hooked up with Leonardo didn't she

48:10 [Laughter] he's one of the sort of OG's like very popular people from the challenge but it was from a time when it was more focused on the drama and the fights that she would get in and she would get very drunk which would then leave to the fights and then all the hookups and all that sort of thing as far as competing itself on the show she was never really like in the vein of a Kara Maria or a laurel or anything but she's more famous for the drama that she brings and the character as opposed to her actual prowess for a show like The Challenge so I don't know I don't know how it translates to the Traders she didn't necessarily show her ability to keep things under wraps she was very vocal very out there and always spoke her mind which drove the fights and stuff so probably a finalist yeah so there we have it that's the cast that's the full cast here for traitors us season two and our original sort of takes on where we think things are going to go the biggest thing that I got out of that last

49:30 Little bit there from you talking about trishella's I hope Traders season three phones my girl Cara Maria where's Cara Maria on this season we need to get her on for Traders or weird season we did hear Tori was actually annoyed me she asked if she could go on it and was not invited and then Corey said that he was asked for season one yeah but couldn't go b m or MTV said no you can't go and then he didn't get a call out for season two so he's like you know did MTV do me dirty here when they're now calling on challenge people when I was already in the mix and Tori said I put my hand up first of all the entitlement from Toyota thinks she would automatically just because she said yes but interesting that and you were heartbroken about Corey right you were hard broken and Corey's not on the season yeah well I mean of all the things Corey could go on I don't think Traders would match him very well like he would suck at this I'm telling you I'm telling you I admit like we had Andrew Lee you know really gutted that Corey didn't make it on Twitter and I tweeted out that you know Kahuna is crying in a corner and he's like goona's not a fan and I'm like nope he wants to take him on a whole brawl do you reckons I just mean that because I would literally be impossible to

50:50 Pick up and move I would just lay there until he died from us he's not lifting up 180 kilos man there's no way let's get this battle going give Kahuna the BK a call and put Corey on season three with him for Traders we want to see this beef resolved on the biggest stage in the trader season itself but this was a lot of fun to talk to both of you about this upcoming cast just a little bit of bonus content for everybody that is subscribed to the channel over the last couple of weeks please consider subscribing because there's plenty more content to come in the future hit the like put the notification Bell on within the next week or so we're going to have Traders New Zealand interview dropping that Mucky did his very own first interview so look out for that we've potentially got two Traders Australia interviews lined up so just trying to get the clear for that as well so some more great stuff coming we've got a Survivor African player I am having a chat with over this weekend that's going to drop soon as well and some special previous players potentially lined up for some coverage for Survivor 45 as we covered the season as well but for now that's it catch you guys next time bye