The Traitors USA: Season 2 Episode 6 Review

0:14 [Music] [Music] a [Music] [Music] welcome back to the dollar fight take Channel here on YouTube where we've got the TNT takes you on the traitors us season 2 that is right I'm your host Chris I'm back to bring some order to this podcast this week I heard it was chaotic last week with Mony taking the helm but I am back to bring balance to the for scona how are you doing that's what happens when you know you leave it in the hands of monkey things are going to go astray you know what I mean I tried to keep an adult hand you know be the adult in the room I don't know how well we went

1:34 Yeah well first off you may have to kill your camera because you're breaking in and out again on the on the live so just make sure that you do that I think it'll probably better just for the sound but yeah I thought we had Kahuna on the podcast to keep mcky in line but I've been hearing from a lot of people it was off the rails last week a lot of Dan slander that happened while I wasn't here my boy Dan and I know that a lot of people are going to have a lot of hot takes on that as well but I still stand my man Dan I will always stand my man Dan chude watching episode 64 Titans versus Rebels chude I have to catch up on that afterwards but we're not podcasting about that until Thursday so that's kind of Fallen a little bit down the priority list to try and get this podcast out first then we have lovable Nikki asking where's maky I can authenticate lovable Nicki maky did indeed not have the shield and he's been banished off this podcast tonight because he didn't have the shield no he's he'll be back he just can't make it this week sometimes life comes in the way like it did for me last week as well lovable Nik saying it was off the rails in a good way and boo Chris why boo me why boo meable Nik I feel like it's just because I

2:54 Won't leave like I'm still a fan of Dan One Bad season one season of things not working out great doesn't mean the guy is not a good player I mean he is the goat of Big Brother I don't care what anybody says Lexa saying good evening from rainy Los Angeles glad I caught you guys live again can't wait to talk traitors Lexa welcome back to the live love him L saying Dan sucked he did In This Moment like I can understand where he was going but obviously he did work out but also I do have a hot take on why Dan struggled this season I don't think it's a hot take but I think people are looking past this fact when it comes to him and then mcky in the live saying just want to point out that your boy a legend of BB got outplayed by a simple guy who gives roses to beautiful girls he knows how to slam the game because your boy dance game is lame yeah I mean listen it's hard to argue with what Peter has been able to do in this season but I will say this Dan came in with a reputation and apparently a lot more happened last week than what we saw on the show I don't know C you probably didn't listen to Dan's podcast this week with Janelle or last week I should say I've not no yeah so Janelle sunk him last week not fedra she sunk him

4:14 Last week by bringing out a lot of his gameplay and Big Brother the things that he did she said he won the game twice which he only won it once we heard it a little bit on the round table with fedra said you won the game twice and he's like almost twice but I didn't win it twice Dan came in with a massive Target on his back like nobody expected Pete to come in and be a good game player which he is we give credit to that but it's like Tony vucko coming into the game to play this game like he would have a massive Target on his back playing the game as one of the goats to play a game of any season it's why bananas the goat of the challenge went out first but people keep forgetting the fact that bananas went out first and he's a goat as well the bigger the player the harder it is to be in there so hats off toy C and Sandra who's still sticking around but Dan is bonafied seen as the best Big Brother player of all time that carries the reputation ker coming into this game so it was always going to be difficult yeah admittedly I can see a reputation like that and any of the Gamers have got that again working against them so far but I haven't seen big brother I don't know his reputation aside from what you tell me which a trusted Source no doubt but he hasn't been let down because of his reputation in this game I think it's his gameplay like he's made some pretty bad calls

5:34 Left some cookie trails along the way and being pretty obvious in the way he's approached it and kind of put himself out there and then obviously Janelle burying him with stuff that was probably you know like again it wasn't his reputation necessarily leading into I think he didn't play the game that well from a power position as well you know 100% listen I'm not going to disagree with the fact that you know py had a record coming in as well and we're seeing her having to deal with the consequences of her own legacy as well this season as well as Sandra as well as CT some of these people but C is not necessarily even though he should be seen as a strategic threat that's not what people look at when they look at CT they think that he's this physically strong guy with a good social political game but not necessarily like a strategic Mastermind like Dan is I think one of Dan's biggest problems was coming into the season he tried to play the possum game that he did and big brother but Janelle kept calling it out even last week she said you know you play the posum in the beginning and then you strike later on in the game that's how you've got into the end twice in Big Brother and as Dan said at the end there he's never had a single vote against them in big brother ever you know in two seasons and he got to the end so it's a reputation and no one can take that away from him but I do agree he didn't adapt quickly enough and you've got to take your

6:54 Hat off to Peter I was so impressed with Peter Kahuna last week when he set the Trap and finally I feel like we've got a faithful after watching so many seasons of Traders that's not an absolute idiot and that actually knows how to play this game as a faithful by doing things like setting little traps testing different theories you know you've got to take your hat off to Pete he's a player he's a player and Dan did not see it weavy did see it and Dan's fully to blame for his downfall because he took control in the trader Tower in regard to who he wanted out he was adamant it had to be Bergie why did it have to be Bergie at this moment kuna because it's still like as much as I am still a fan of Dan I think Dan's an awesome player and also a great person outside of the game if you follow him outside of the game he's very gracious and defeat and all of that you know this was not the move and I still don't understand why he was so adamant to go after Bergie at this stage K can I'm not sure either especially consider considering that there was even the suggestion yep yeah the fact that there was even a suggestion of risk there P said well clearly he's lying and he had to make that decision based on his read that Pete was telling the truth he believed him he's all in

8:15 Now I can take my shot and was it worth that risk like if there's even a suggestion there you don't need to go down that path there's other options available to you it's not like he's back was completely against the wall here and in all reality by not taking a shot at Bergie it made have may have cast less suspicion on him like Bergie accused him Bergie flat out said it so he's trying to do the double meta like the double back thing like well of course I didn't do it because you know Bergie accused me that would be dumb for me to be the traitor and then take out the person that accused so he's trying to be game gameer out but like there were other options you didn't need to do that in that moment yeah if this was Traders Australia and we had the same people out there being faithfuls maybe it would have worked but not in a cast full of experienced reality TV people who have played their own shows a lot of them unknown as pretty big strategic players in their own right these people were never going to get fooled by this strategy of Dan coming into the game and I was just shocked that he underestimated Pete as much as he did because in his own season he was always really good at reading people and knowing when they were lying to him but he kind of

9:35 Looked at Pete being a bachelor and thought just because he's been on The Bachelor the show he must not have a lot going on upstairs and he underestimated him and that ultimately became his downfall in this game because P did say to him like you can't underestimate this kid this is the perfect opportunity for him to lay a trap let's go for this safe option he took the risky option and brickers was extremely entertaining to watch Kahuna because they all thought Bergie was not going to come back but you know lo and behold Bergie does make his way into the breakfast how would you have reacted in that moment kuna do you think you would have been able to keep your Poker Face on with Bergie coming in if you thought you just took him out of the game I mean that's a tough one like he's already celebrating the fact that Bergie like in his head he's in internal monologue is don't celebrate that Bergie hasn't come in and you're winning here like that's always the thing right when you murder someone and they're like oh where are they how did they not come back oh my gosh burgerlicious you know that sort of thing but he's now got the opposite where he actually walks into the room and then you have to do a complete 180 that's a hard flip to make and how do you do that on your

10:55 Face especially when Pete is specifically looking like they've set a tra like he didn't know that necessarily or maybe he did at that point I don't know but it's a tough thing to do I was really curious how do you because I think they both as soon as he walked in the room to me all bets are off the game like you should know by that point if you're Dan I'm done and if you're py I'm done I need to turn immediately on Dan like I think my reaction in that moment is be like Pete like what the hell does that what's going on Pete like you know like I don't know like they were like oh he's here but they should know he told us therefore there's a calculation that is you know Happening Here I need to be able to go wait what like and act confused not like yeah he confus this like you need to be like what is going on yeah like how C was C was legitimately like yeah C is like you told me but I don't know what the hell's going on you know C had a very genuine reaction to it and I think it's hard for us like we sit on the sidelines here and we feel like we could have acted there's a lot better but none

12:15 Of us are like Oscar nominated actors ourselves you know so how would you react in that moment is difficult to really know until you're in that seat and you see that it was a failed attempt a failed assassination attempt add Bergie in the game you know you don't know how you're going to react but in my mind the meta play we'll talk about it I guess as the podcast unfolds but it was either to go straight after Pete to say that he set it up and it's suspicious that he kind of knew where things were at so maybe he's the Puppet Master behind the whole thing or you have you shoot fire at either CT and py who is the three people with yourself included that are potentially has suspicion on you but apparently Dan wanted to play the game with pav he didn't want to take a shot at her that's something that he explained in his own show afterwards he really wanted to go to the end with poy and there was a bit of loyalty between the two of them to a certain degree I do want to go back to some of the comments here that have come in since we've spoken about this Lexa says I watched a bit of Dan's postgame press conference that he did on his YouTube channel and he seemed so gracious he said NBC let him talk to his kids and wife every day and it was a good time hats off to Center for running the game the faithfuls are not getting a single vote yet I think her reputation is even greater than Dan she actually won twice that is true Sandra has a massive reputation in the game as well but I would say Dan because no

13:35 One has won twice in Big Brother Dan and Will are probably seen as the two best players of Big Brother of all time they're kind of like Sandra and Tony so he's like the equivalent of that reputation and Big Brother on the other end but yeah definitely didn't deal well with it lovable Nikki says that is good that the producers let them talk to their families Lexa says Also let's not forget there's no day 16 in this game and Sandra has never gone out before day 16 so that means that she may go until the end because there won't be a day 16 and in recent times that's been the bogey day for her Mike maky says does Kahuna trust my sources when it comes to a good game players M sources is he talking about the voices in his head I don't know what sources guide his choices in game players but his track history would suggest that he needs to listen to new ones 100% like we haven't forgotten about the absolute fail of Australian Survivor draft last season where he picked all the players that went prior to the merch you know so I don't know we can trust this sources yeah Char says I got my pece test tomorrow do you think I should stay up or go to bed and everybody is telling him go to bed go to bed you know and he did coming with some money here thank you Char

14:56 With the $5 okay I'm off the bed pie have podcast goes well thanks chud we appreciate you see whatever else people are saying Dan should have listened to path that Peter was lying and murder Peter totally agree Danny welcome to the podcast as well says the fact that he told both poverty and Dan should have been a huge red flag that is a trap but it was a trap yeah Lexa says I don't know I don't want to see John and Kate go but if I was then I would have targeted Kate because I think it's too suspicious to take out someone from the faithfuls or the Fai of Sandra a yeah what a random move for Kate to be in the game like what did you think of the fact that they brought her back midseason no I think it's random yeah like I like Kate but it'sand I said last week like I don't I don't understand like it's not like she was some power player last SE like she was annoying and caused drama and tension in the house by throwing challenges and you know wearing a eating smile like look in her face just hating the whole experience so she was you know impactful that way but not as a game player yeah I just I think it's interesting obviously it's because they lost is

16:16 It forgot his name the boxer guy earlier in the season so they probably had to make up a number and they were like and they're probably like okay who's always available to jump on one of these shows K cool let's give her a call she'll probably fly out at a moment's notice and jump into the game and she's probably like yeah whatever I get a second chance so she becomes the first rur ever to come back and she was fun in the first season but I don't like people joining the game midway or halfway through the game so probably would have been a good random person to take out but and she didn't have protection in the game either like it wasn't they like they brought her in and said she can't be banished on the first night she was a full-blown player since they won yeah just complete full-blown yeah it was weird it was definitely weird loveable Nikki saying Chris you don't know my accolades yeah is that a threat I don't know I don't know your accolades all I know is every time I do one of these podcasts lovable Nikki comes for me in my takes so that's one thing I do know so I'm not going to be coming for her on the round table like Dan did you know I feel like with fedra the Lost Bananas and Kate brings drama to the show that's true Lexa says I'm super excited for Kate because I found her so hilarious last season but if it was Dan I would have taken her out because no one expects him to do that might have some heat off him daddy says she has

17:36 Good confessionals don't mind having her back I don't think she will mess up the game I see her more as a commentator that is true kiwi welcome to the live yeah so breakfast was interesting obviously after that they know they're in trouble so both Dan and py have conversations with Pete and Pete is sold on this thing and he's playing this game so hard at this moment like on my notes I wrote down Pete's gonna get taken out of the game like if he's not turned like they're going to take him out because he's just unbendable when he's talking to both py and Dan he can't eliminate both of them at the same time but he doesn't really entertain much of the conversation and he's pretty much like I know you're a Traer I'm not going to work with you at this point when they both have conversations with him prior to the [Music] mission what did you think gaml as smart as it was for him to definitely should be getting his fails for setting the Trap and the way he came up with it in real time during the challenge to say we'll just say that we've got the shield when we don't like that was very snap judgment thinking very smart but then to play it too much to the point where like he's even said like I'm essentially sacrificing myself here because I'm so like I've got them so much like they I'm

18:56 Dead like they're going to kill me they have to kill me he's played it too hard like he could have set the Trap being a little bit more quiet with it when Bergie walks in don't even like mention it see what happens see if they approach you what does Dan say with that information that's been put out there what does pav say with that information that's like I said they should be going hey man like I thought you had it like what's going on right and you can gauge that reaction as well like was that too much acting or like you know yeah there's a little more he could have done without putting such a big Spotlight on himself like immovable Spotlight which I'm really fascinated to see how it plays out with him being a Trader and if he like if it works out the way I'm kind of seeing it in my mind's eye then povery is an absolute genius like the downfalls that can come Pete's way now if he becomes a Traer what that's going to mean for the way movie is so crazy yeah listen if the guy wins I'm going to be like phenomenal gameplay Peter awesome to see you win this game you're the same of trador us season 2 you know you're You're The Mastermind of this season hopefully without all of them I won't spoil it for anybody at the end of what happened on

20:16 Traders Australia season 2 just in case people want to watch it but it'll be interesting to see how it's going to turn out because Peter's now made such a big deal out of the fact that he's got to be murdered next right everybody's like he's like I'm way too obvious now they're going to have to take me out of the game so what happens if he's not taken out now because he's accepted the trador invitation it's the most obvious thing under the Sun Well if they haven't taken him out exactly right they've probably recruited him and pav could use that to her Advantage fedra could use that to her advantage in the future to take out Peter so I feel like Peter because he's been playing the game so hard if we've learned one thing about Traders is that if you're a faithful and you played the game too hard and you become the leader of the faithfuls you're doomed it's very difficult to be the leader of the faithfuls and get to the end game because you're a either going to be someone that no one's ever going to banish because they all believe you're a faithful so you're no Ed to the traitors they're going to have to vote you out or B you're going to be someone that they're going to try and recruit so that they can lead everybody astray so I do feel like he's cornered himself a little bit here so I'm fascinated to see what is going to happen a saying also if he backs off poty Bergie smell a rat yeah bie seems to be pretty glued on as well Denny says if

21:36 Peter accepts he is allowed to still keep targeting yeah he is allowed to still keep targeting p and that would be the smart thing to do that would be the very because then he's like continuing to buol that resume but if he takes two Traders out backto back without there being consequences of him being voted out clearly he must be a Traer no Mur clearly yeah with no yeah like he's still there like starts becoming not only is it how is he still there but then it becomes how did he know so well like he was so confident that Dan was the traitor it's like he knew somehow you know what I mean like then that adds that's just another layer on top of the of the why aren't you murdered yet like there's multiple things that keep keeps adding on to it and then yeah if he's not as adamant in the pav Chase why isn't he like Pav's if he accepts and he has to accept there's no choice yeah you always become a traitor like you have to because that's the only way out of it from here he can still get out of it yeah I think he can still get out of it mainly because a lot of the people around him are potentially dumb like I feel like if they can if they can no not all of them you know why kin John and Kevin yeah John and Kevin definitely

22:56 Bergie seems pretty glued on and then the other person trelle is the only one that made the connection that if Dan was firing shots at fedra he was desperate clearly fedra has to be a traitor she's the only one who's made that connection to date so fedra is not completely out of the woods in regards to this Dan may still have you know he may have he may have had bow out there and he probably hit it with a poisoned arrow that could still kill her in this game basically the poison chalice the poison chalice yeah she's not completely clear lick up with the big take here saying I think Sandra is the real leader of the faithfuls but I think she's playing a damn good under the radar game especially poking fun at Peter's Alliance faithful of the faithfuls the only thing that's missing from Sandra at the moment in my mind is the fact that she hasn't said as long as it ain't me you know anybody but me in this game at this point CU that is Sandra go-to strategy when it comes to winning these types of reality TV shows Lexa saying I think Sandra and C have a lot of power in the faithfuls because I think P wants to keep Sandra around since they can talk and seem to have buried the hatchet and fedra has a crush on CT I thought fedra had a crush on Bergie

24:16 She called him balous I think everyone had crush on CT yeah I thought you were going to say everybody has a crush on Bergie no one has a crushy Mony does Lea saying if any faithfuls are endgame it's got to be Sandra and CT I actually think trelle has got a shot like my mind keeps going back to trelle and CT having that conversation about burying the hatchet between the two of them looking out for each other and letting each other know if any of them are going to be in danger like I could see a c and tral make it to the end in this game to be honest so that's something that definitely still stands out yeah I agree with that she's looking in a pretty good position at the moment not considered a faithful at all the only obviously in a game like the Traders the biggest thing is that you can never unless you get Shield after Shield after Shield you can really never do anything about getting unived or murdered like there's no control over it there's nothing you can do especially now that she's considered such clear faithful of the faithfuls like she's up for like elimination at any point Danny says yes Sandra and C for the win also says true trelle CAU that implication

25:36 By Dan that path and fedra are the actual traitor smart maky saying don't get me started on the poison chales that one St things for maky taking out his beloved ekin Sue Lexa saying she likes both of them let's talk about Kevin From Bling Empire since Kahuna mentioned him is like a Survivor goat not great as the full time to be dragged to the end as the thing of the Traders everyone hates him I like Kevin I like the I feel like every season of traitors needs to have the one person that has the worst read it's like even going into the round table he was still defending Dan he was like no man Dan's done nothing wrong like it can't be Dan and somewhere along the way yeah somewhere along the way they convinced them to vote with them but he was still not on to D's Trail after it was so obvious with Bergie not going out of the game yeah poor Kevin but he's in an alliance he's in the power Alliance at the moment the faithful of the faithful so like yeah he's in a good spot lovable Nikki says fedra does not have a crush on Bergie so lovable Nikki speaking up for fedra in this situation I don't know she said her bolicious Danny says trelle and Peter are definitely playing the best right now we'll see what the

26:56 Twist does for Peter get recruited fedra always says how T and handsome C is and she has said several times bananas was two she wants to keep the handsome men around who can blame her yeah Mak said that's why Chris will be casted in the next season what are you talking about Chris always likes the Ops hey I like I like variety is the spice of life you can't just have everybody be terrible at a game such as Traders like Mony you need the good players you need the bad players like a Mony you need a little bit of everything on a season Kahuna would you agree with that oh yeah for sure that's why we have a Kevin and that's why we have a Bergie and then other end of the spectrum yeah or a monkey in that in that pool players and then the other this is this is the problem with maky being in the live instead of on the podcast we can we can talk M at this point he's M's a big boy he knows why am I dragging mcky listen lovable Nikki M started it you know he started it with me like Dan started it with fedra and I finished it okay let's leave it

28:16 At that what did you think of the mission did you like the mission on this episode kuna they had the big catapult that they had to get all these different pieces oh yeah of course of course and you have to get the ammo for the shield and whether you run off and get ammo and take the yeah look it was okay like I feel like it was probably the most physical like they had to like it looked like they were really struggling to get it up there but then I went hang on a sec they've got like a really short time limit it can't be that hard like if it's I'm like when they were going I was like oh there's 10 minutes left like if it's not like they've only been going for another 10 minutes it's not like you know the challenge finale or something but it looked hard it was it was brutal CT doing CT things yeah absolutely much more than they may be used to anyway like having to walk up the mountain but it was it was certainly a lot of fun catapults as soon as you involve something with a catapult like that's fun but the shield the way it ended up being with the shield immunity like were they how are they even doing that were they aiming it like it's still the giant catapult well that's what I was going to I was going to bring this up and say how crazy is it like that

29:36 Winning $20,000 came down to one person having one shot at this target yeah and it's so happened to be John like because catapults was last used when John was a young boy so they needed to get someone from that era to come out there and actually shoot this catapult he had the experience and he happened to nail it and one hit as well to me it's just insanity this whole challenge was Insanity when they finally got up there and they had one shot to do it and John ends up pulling it out being the like everybody keeps talking about CT in the meantime I'm like CT who we've got this John challenge beast on this season that you know runs faster than anyone else knows how to shoot a catapult is a great Traer Hunter clearly John's the guy to watch out for this season kuna people are underestimating it and by the way like just to give a little bit more credit to John the way he delivers his round T like verdicts like with all the politician pump and Circumstance and just to give one like word like he really loaded up on he's like Dan took a while there Dan loaded up his thing I want my time and he like if he can deliver it like that every time I'm all in like yeah go for a John for the win like John's my guy now lovable

30:57 Saying Sim down about CT Chris listen CT gets a lot of love but John gety don't worry he's fine he plenty he's gonna be okay John needs our support this season I feel like Daddy says we love you mcky don't tell mcky that his head's gonna grow you know he's already he's already got a big head like it's gonna even get bigger when you say things like that Danny Lexa says if they can get Peter who do you guys think will be murdered or banished next let's assume Bergie somehow is safe also like say Bergie gets the shield that's a good question who will they take out next M at this point in the game I mean Goa actually no like well firstly they're anyone in the next one because they've offered to turn someone into a Trader but then after that they to get Peter and then Peter's going to have his own takes but you have to take a number out from Peter's side you can't let his side just get the numbers and dictate the pace of the game so that would be John Kevin which John and Kevin you keep because they're both pretty oblivious trelle might be in danger trelle Bergie yeah if Berg is not available trelle is next up yeah oh man that hurts I want trelle to do well but yeah I feel like trelle or Bergie would probably be the two next also said this

32:17 Was my favorite Mission next to the bird calling this one was so fun but Sheree winning the shield was very anti-climatic since she was not on the Block yes and after everybody needed it so much like I kind of sometimes forget sh's on the show like she like we never hear from her she's just there it must suck for people who are like real housewives fans that see her on the show and she doesn't get any content like I don't know anything about her purple Sheree purple Sheree Denny says I love the bird calling one for them all running around the castle repeating the bird sounds Alan kept cracking up that was good Lexa saying can we talk about the breakdown of both alliances of faithfuls on each side it's five faithfuls of faithfuls in Peter's Alliance and five of them in the gamer Alliance right which is the stronger team while me personally I'm always going to lean towards the gamer side the only problem is that the gamer side has a traitor in there which is pver but I feel like if Sandra it sounds like Sandra is suspecting her because Sandra even said in this episode that we're on to P in the game but I feel like Sandra is not taking a direct shot at poverty because she probably thinks thatty as long as she can make poverty that she doesn't suspect pover she'll keep her around and if she

33:37 Gets to the final because the real gameplay the Meta gameplay in my opinion kuna is if you know who one of the Traders are and you know that they're an ally of yours remain faithful to them pun intended go to the end and vote them out so you take the money it's the it's the meta gameplay and I feel like Sandra might be playing that kind of game with P at the moment yeah hide in the shadow like be like know who they are but don't like you got to keep because the power again like I say this every episode but the whole game was designed to show and illustrate how powerful it is to have information over those who don't right so if you know who the trader is and they don't know that you know that's now information that the faithful have and the one tiny like very rare Advantage they actually have over the Traders so you got to if you get rid of that and you if you know they're a Trader they're in your alliance and you can and keep in that wing of safety by taking them out you now open yourself up to recruitments which you have no idea about again and you're starting from scratch at least you've got them on your board you're tracking them and you can keep aware keep your eye on them the whole way through and then figure out other ones and see where you are but if you've got one that you know and you're close to them that they're not going to murder you

34:57 Then you got to keep him I agree I totally agree I think that is the right way to play it Alexa saying the gamer Alliance is Sandra CT Kate John gamer Alliance John is in the other Alliance no so Sandra C Kate and py I would say would be the gamer Alliance where do MJ I think they're in the middle MJ and Shere I think mg and Sheree is in their own category with fedra as the housewife Alliance like I don't think they're part of the gameer alliance or the faithful Alliance if that makes sense the faithfuls alliance is Peter Bergie Kevin trelle and John is part of the faithful Alliance as well Blood Money's asking do you guys see JN go to the end only as a goat type yeah not because he got there on his own power and figured it out and is in control yeah not no problem Le it does get confusing sometimes but John's been hanging out with Kevin and Pete and Bergie and also with trelle a lot but trelle is an interesting one like is she really with the faithful Alliance or is she kind of with the gamer Alliance because she's also got loyalty to CT that Dynamic hasn't been made clear enough for us as of yet like it's interesting

36:17 One of the other big things like logistically that Janelle spoke about when Dan interviewed her on his podcast was how much less time they have to strategize because it's unlike Big Brother they don't actually live with them the whole time they get very small blocks during the day that they're allowed to do strategy talk and then they told no you're now on Mission you can't talk about it you know so she said there was a lot less time to build strategy but they probably also do it to kind of keep hiding the traders's identity for a little bit longer so people can't compare notes as much so she said there was limitations compared to a show like big brother which I think people don't always think about logistically yeah that's true yeah cuz I know that an Australian Survivor they don't necessarily sleep at the hotel they go somewhere else afterwards I don't know if it's the same in the US I don't know if they actually sleep in that castle or not or if they go to a hotel for instance so okay yeah so logistically it's interesting blood Money says Peter needs to be recruited to be Trader because he can be double agent for the faithfuls of the faithful Alliance yeah we spoke about it a little bit earlier blood money what we think is going to happen with Peter I think pver will set him up for failure in that so it'll be interesting to see if he does accept it what's going to happen there because he was so adamant about him being taken out that now if he's not taken out that is suspicious it

37:37 It's really good for poverty because first of all if he can if he does fully Buy in right yeah and is's and actually runs defense for them and gets the scent off there off pav a little bit with his crew and starts putting it somewhere else then she's got someone that's going to work for him if not and she can turn on Pete offer him up as a traitor somehow and cast CU like we said if it's like why aren't you murdered how did you know so confidently and then it turns out he does reveal himself as a traitor then py again yeah and then it's like no see that's why he targeted me the entire time he was a traitor the whole way through like he had like one actual traitor that he had pinned and then he was putting it on me as well as someone that was innocent but I am impressed with PTY P's playing this game well she giving us glimpses of what made her a great Survivor player back in the day and I'm seeing a little bit of that black widow energy coming back as Peter is like gunning for her and she is just she is ready to devour Peter at this stage like her conversation on the trader Tower with fedra about what if we took the most loyal of faithfuls and turn him into a traitor and then watch him all of his friends take all that was such a gold py line

38:58 And hats off tedra like she for me because I've never watched Housewives is the F of the Season like I'm really loving her character I want to see her now play on more game shows in the future like take her to big brother I don't think she would do Survivor but you know get her on The Amazing Race with someone like I just want fedra on my TV I'm not watching Housewives I'm sorry fedra as much as I love you I can't bring myself to watch that show but if you're play another competitive reality TV show I'm all there for it because she is giving us everything at the moment I'm loving F by the way Dan's like ammo not great but he went full guns blazing at fedra and she handled it like a boss like she sat there I think part of I think if I have to think I think Dan's theory was this isn't great I don't have a lot here there's not a lot no that I'm working with but if I throw something at fedra she's going to panic and in the moment she'll something will come out of this right I'm thinking that's what she the idea was but F was cool she was like what no that doesn't make sense and just rebutted everything that he threw it he's like no that does that's silly calm the whole way through and it really did make

40:18 Dan like it made it look sillier but in comparison to her reaction like you know what I mean just be like no dumb yeah it's really well done and you've got to give Dan credit that he played everything right up until that point he didn't give a name until they got to the round table which meant that there was no way for fedra to know that the heat was coming her way no one could have gone to her to say be prepared for this so he played that correctly and like you said he kind of expected her to fold over like someone that isn't experienced in playing competitive reality TV shows a game show but her experience of being a lawyer of having accomplished a lot in life and like you said just having that Poise about herself yeah she ate it all up and she threw it right back and I do think that I'm not taking any anything away from fedra because she handled it as best as she could but I'm just putting it out there for all the fans that are like see this is why Dan's not great and all this kind of stuff it's rubbish he went in with a massive Target into this season so people were on to him not just this episode they've been on to him for a while so I feel like there was like you just said he had to throw a hail marry and try something so I applaud the fact that

41:39 Way yeah 100% much easier Somey EAS yeah there's some loyalty there that I still don't fully understand I feel like between you and me I feel like P and Dan had a pregame Alliance going into this I just have this feeling everything to me shouts pregame they probably knew some of the people they were going to be playing the show he had mutual respect with her and Sandra due to the fact that they're some of the best of Survivor they're both CBS he's one of the best of Big Brother there was something going on there to me that screams pregame between the two of them and Big Brother players are known for doing pregame alliances as well yeah so I think that's why he didn't shoot at her and even when she was shooting at him she did so very reserved in her response to him she didn't go all out against him yeah I feel like a of I'm trusted down the hallway and maybe I'm wrong exactly and Peter's like don't let that fool you don't let that fool you okay like she is a traitor let's see let's see what people are saying Danny says do you think Dan would have done any better as a faithful I do think he would have done better I think he wouldn't have had the pressure on him to be like he kind of Dan came into this playing a very old school game like he himself admitted he hasn't played any of these games for like 10 years

42:59 Game shows have moved on the level of the competitors that are playing these games now are a lot smarter compared to what they were 10 years ago they consume a lot more of this type of content plus he went in against a very experienced group of players here as well that have all come from other shows you know so I do think he was Rusty coming into this game I don't know if Dan would necessarily do something else in the future but man like if there's ever a Traders Allstar season I hope Dan gets the call back because one thing you can't like I don't get like why people are so against then like can we at least admit he was great TV this season like you know even seeing him scramble even seeing him like firing shots on his way out was better than him being wallpaper out there 100% like I didn't like the shot I didn't like the ammo that he used in the shot but the way he took the shot the delivery the commanding the room and laying out his argument and all it was all argument but I appreciated the Craftsman like the way he delived you know what I mean he I could see the Charisma I can see how people would fall into that little bit more juice to actually work with than complete nothing out of nowhere yeah he did his strategy was wrong I think but Dan is a very smart player like if you gave him another

44:19 Shot at traders to come back and play an Allstar season he would he would change up his approach like you'd see a different game from him it be hilarious if he's a Traer again but that's why they need to do like a trador All Stars at some point I'm just fascinated to see because if you've got previous traders that you now don't know if they're a Trader or they're a faithful I think very interesting game loveable Nikki saying Chris did not play H sorry Dan did not play Everything correctly until the round table Dan came out of nowhere with a name no one expected Dan played as a Traer all season I agree that like we kind of said who he fired at definitely not the right person and I think it's I personally will call it out I think there was some pregame Alliance going on I could be wrong about that Dan has admitted on his own show that he wanted to play with P until the end he wanted to stay loyal to her to me that's strange but that's the gameplay he wanted to play I do think the right move would have been not to let someone prepare themselves for the fire that you would bring I just don't think the ammunition he had he was shooting blanks I just don't think that was effective you can make and given heads think because who he hoping he could catch fed guard and get her to slip up like he said Kahuna and that failed clearly failed on the day

45:40 The only people who knew someone who was cast was Lassa and Marcus okay beforehand I mean no one knew who was on the cast before the vehicles come on love Niki we've been in the game for a long time when it comes to reality TV shows and the reason I say this is because I've also listened to another podcast with a certain Miss Sharon tarp where they actually had my personal so a lot of people say Dan's the best player of all time in Big Brother I actually think it's Dr wool personally Dr wo is well and truly retired Dan sort of modeled his game on Dr W quite a bit when he came in to play the game Dr W was the original sort of pioneer of big brother and he had a conversation with Sharon T where they spoke about who got what calls for certain shows maybe Traders and a lot of people were phoning Dr wool to ask him if he was going to be on this season prior to the season starting so maybe they weren't 100% but people were calling each other and they were like hey you may have gotten a call are you on this season I don't believe that call didn't go out I think certain people knew beforehand maybe not everybody but I think game players would have done that and Big Brother players a notorious for doing this as well you know this Niki

47:02 Sorry CT and bananas had no idea like they were surprised by getting out of the cars together like yeah at the castle that's true he seemed somewhat shocked but also not because they're like I can't I can't shake bananas Wherever I Go loveable Nikki says not again Dan he kind he was kind of wallpaper he was saying nothing to the players I don't think he's paper because he was a Traer and getting confessionals I think that in the confessionals he let us in on what he was thinking at all times which was entertaining you know and at least he had some strategy behind it I think in the house he probably would have been pretty lowkey maybe some players did find him boring because he wasn't really giving much but I think to the camera at least he was good I just don't have a dislike for Dan I never will and no one's going to be able to change my opinion about that I'm very biased when it comes to it but I understand he may not be everybody's cup of tea and that's fine that's 100% fine where did you sit on Dan like you can you can break it I guess you only know him from this show but do you agree that he just brought nothing to the season and if there was an Allstar call he shouldn't even get the call you don't have the buyers I do no I think I think he did come into the game with a very big disadvantage like you said he's playing behind

48:22 The eight ball it's hard from that position but that's good to be because other Trader you need to have some sort of disadvantage he clearly is a smart guy I can see the building blocks of a player I just think like this I don't think he played that well as a traitor but I can see the way his mind worked I can see the way he talks in confessionals I can see all that stuff that he would be a very compelling player I think that he just it was Traders is tough man like it's so random people decide things yeah like you can't game it out as hard or because of the unpredictability of it you know what I mean so you're kind of at the mercy of Randomness a little bit so it's hard for someone who is a very strategic game player to account for a lot of that randomness of you know without the things to go off of there even though he's got all the information when I talk about Randomness from a traders's perspective it's how the faithful react to having no information they go off of that person winked that person looked funny that like and you can fall into that trap of you're too quiet like you're too quiet you're too loud you're too anything they'll pick anything and like yeah it's tough it is tough it's interesting

49:42 Yeah but I don't I think it' be the go and become a legend on a show that you most of these shows you don't have control over but where you have at least got some level of control and you can TR and game it to the end like you said become a legend on that and then play Traders when there's nothing to lose like with Dan for he's a leg doesn't matter what he did on this show it's a legend and Big Brother that's never going to change you know what I mean so then you can take the risk you can take a calculated risk and go play a show such as this that can be a gamble there's definitely strategy that comes into this game but it's like you said what strategy is going to apply what season you don't know you're saying too much you're saying too little you clear your throat at the wrong time I mean there's the strangest things John nearly got voted out for that in the first episode you know it's hard it's a hard game so I don't hold it as against him like I do think he's obviously good un confessional he's got good I think you know my showing of Dan is yeah I like him he's been he's been good he's good TV I think he could have done better I don't think his moves were perfect but from what I see of him as a character I'm in yeah no I definitely enjoyed it so I think we spoke about

51:03 A little bit about the recruitment we spoke about fedra ultimately you know coming out on top do you think that fedra can take this to the end now do are you thinking fedra has got the inside Lane here or do you see potential trouble do you think that we see both P or fedra at the end or do you think only one of them will potentially make it because P's also tried to take a shot at fedra before but kind of have had to pull back from that yeah and C caught red-handed as well fedra said don't do that like yeah and then now Dan's taking a bigger shot that like P took a little bit and fedra said ah dire no and then he's gone so fedra is looking really good right and considering that if they recruit Pete accepts which we all assume he's going to I like the line that fedra said to pvy where PV sort of said you've had a tough time today as well you were dealing with the accusation from Dan that wasn't easy do you want to go through it together and she goes look I've had a tough time but you're still screwed I'm yeah you're in the ICU I'm in the lobby so like and if Pete comes in as well I think automatically off the Jump he's going to be in a worse position than fader as well so she's going to be double insulated even more so with a

52:23 Pick from py she's using to insulate herself which will insulate fedra even further the only crinkle to that is how hard trelle holds onto that little that little seed did Dan drop something with fedra there and if she can use that to convince others and who does she talk to where does she go with that information yeah is it pet or CT that's going to be interesting Lexa says 100% I think fedra can win trelle is the only one who suspects her but poverty has so much Pete who do you guys think Peter as a Trader would want to go to the end with between pver and fedra I feel like Pete's got it out for pver like he wants P's head on a spike like and he's going to know that pver is the one that pushed for him to become a traiter as well probably like I just don't see Pete and pavy both in the end like I see Pete and fedra there more than pavy or P taking out Pete and then pavy and fedra being at the end those are like but both fedra will team up with one of the two and go against the other it's either going to be P by the way the fact that they recruited another freaking p and now we've got p and f fedra like that makes it very difficult in that t Tower but

53:43 If py and fedra have like we're OG Traders from the start kind of oh no she wasn't she was recruited as well so they might say we've been in a bit longer let's take let's not let Pete come in here and take us out or they might sort of team up Pete and Fedrick and go like I've been here with P longer and I want to get rid of her it's me and you Pete all the way so there's both ways that it can kind of go and I think P can do the same thing to Pete so it's interesting sort of ramifications either way they I think they will turn on each other I don't think they're going to be strong all the way to the end and I think fedra will reap the benefits of the little war between Pete and poverty interesting yeah so couple of things here coming up I've got Jesse saying none of the Traders will win I think big call there so saying a faithful will take season two out and if that is true I'm wondering who that faithful will be could be Sandra could be trelle if she gets to the end she's kind of on to fedra I think Sandra's kind of on to py so both of those get to the end they possibly have some people they can call out and in a final situation Alex you sorry how you feeling about CT in the game

55:03 Listen Love nikk Is Gonna Hate Me on this one she calls my man Dan wallpaper call her spiders spay confessionals boring what a c done really that's been entertaining this season let me just put it out there kuna has he been more entertaining than Dan this season oh no he hasn't had the chance he's not a traiter like you know there you go she's jumping I have the challenge coming for I knew LEL Nikki wasn't gonna take that one lightly I love CT by the way but your boy's been lowkey the season when it comes to the challenge when it comes to the challenge you've got bananas you've got Jordan you've got K Maria youve got CT Chris is going to be on Josh best Casey like his big brother all the way Dan H listen I'm having some fun I'm having some I'm having some fun CD is gonna go f he's a challenge asset I'm having fun with everybody out there I love CT but I'm just trying to show that from one season to the other season just because you're great at one show doesn't mean you're necessarily going to be that great or entertaining on a different show you know yeah C's playing

56:24 It right he's playing the Dan strategy being lowkey but it's working for him it didn't work for Dan at all being the tra he's building relation I think everyone likes him I think him as well yeah he's gonna be he's not I don't think he's going to be banished anytime soon unless the Fallout from Pete's trap works but Pete kind of covered him by saying I laid the Trap and there's no chance like from the person who had the suspicion to then get their endorsement I think adds more for CT and he can lay low a little bit and take some shots I want to know what he's thinking as far as nail Traders CU he's got to be suspicious of poverty now as well he's got to be blood Money says according to Sharon tarp Twitter the Traders us cast season 2 will be in New York City this week for press the reunion films in March and I hear it may be taping in La wi has got crossed there but there you go true now one thing that happened this week I don't know if you were aware of this but I took note of this because you know I'm someone that always wants to know what the news is out there when some of my favorite players suddenly makes an appearance after maybe say almost four years of not hearing about this player and someone came out

57:44 Of hiding this week and suddenly opened up his Instagram account again retired retiring in 2024 got to keep busy while making that dollars find me on YouTube X at Tony Vos 73 are we thinking that Tony maybe got the call for Traders season 3 is this an international Survivor crossover what do you think is happening herea I got really excited when I saw this I don't know like you made a big leap there I saw you post that I was like okay he hasn't actually like he's just started social media again he doesn't do social media unless he's on a show he always only opens his account when he's on a show he never does social media if he's not on a season because he's not that kind of person he doesn't like social media so this is a big move for him to open a social backup he's trying to make some money he said he wants to retire in 24 we go so for those who don't know here Jesse goes he got the he got the Traders three invite blood Money saying Tony vlos is the winner of Kagan and the winner of winners at War so for those who don't know he's the goat he beat all of the previous winners and a season full of Champions L Nikki loving your skepticism next say I hate Tony on but I think he might be fun on Traders I think

59:04 He would be more fun without Sarah I'm a big Tony fan like Tony love Tony like the fact that he won the game twice to me it's insane so I'm for me I'm winning for the rest of my life I don't care if none of my favorites ever win a reality TV show again just by the fact that he's won twice and I get to call him the goat that's it for me I'm happy with that I think he'll be entertaining on Traders and he's a c I think Traders is a good fit like he'll be the best one for him and I could see it happening for sure Tyson would be fun Boston Rob or youu like listen get them get them all in there Boston Rob was cast this season originally remember that was the rumors like we heard he was on it and then got changed at the end yeah he's on Deal or No Deal Island instead huge chance Sandra won this season hoping Tony will do well yeah true that is like Sandra is the one who imagine if sir wins Sandra wins and that's yeah that's not fair that means Survivor players shouldn't be on this game they Domin I love that Sandra is the one who also like because I saw it on Sandra's feed not on anybody else's and Sandra on her Instagram said the King has returned to Facebook Instagram and Twitter like why she's just been on Traders po as Welling him up I'm loving it and I'm buying into your conspiracy theories

1:00:24 Here let's put it out there the season hasn't started filming yet does Tony suddenly start getting the pregame Alliance calls coming into him now that he's opened up his account is this is this Tony pregaming by opening up and now people know that he's going to be on there putting it out there putting it out there by the way speaking of Sandra I don't know if it was one of those things that I missed when I'm like looking at my phone or zoning out but what happened to her head did we miss that yeah they never show giant okay good I was like she spoke about it on her Instagram someone maybe in the live would know what happened but she heard it in one of the missions I believe but I don't think they showed it on the TV Lexa saying Chris that's how I feel about Sandra she's my favorite player of all time while she's the other goat it's king and queen king Tony and Queen Sandra of Survivor like how can you not like the king and queen you know Boston Rob is on Deal or No Deal Island Sandra edit is so good Sandra's edit is literally perfect so far she has not one single bad thing and I also want to say if Sandra does win kuna who made that call who made that call when we did our cast assessment about who's gonna win the season I'm just gonna say it putting it out there and it was before the season fed again I don't know how anyone can let Sandra

1:01:44 Get to the end of any game she ever plays ever again like Scrabble Uno or whatever just don't let Sandra get near the end because she wins these things unfair if she's in the game Knock on Wood Jesse saying Dina cats W in charge of casting said that she wanted Boston Rob so bad yeah Boston Rob would be golden in a show like this Boston Rob would automatically be one of I Trader like he would be bananas he would either be a Trader or thought to be a Trader and gone immediately yeah loveable Nicki saying you like the live so please like the live yes please everybody like the live bloodman is saying bring King George Queen haly for Traders us season 3 yeah because Traders Australia has been canceled as far as I'm aware so we're now going to have to hope that some of these players make it over to the US but I do feel like to be honest with you we've had a lot of comments come in for Traders Australia in the finale and we won't spoil what happened a lot of people are low on that season and also I towards the end I didn't enjoy it as much that season it was a bit of a drag to get through I think if you compare the two shows like the US definitely has the superior version when it comes to Traders and now that they're taking all these two things for Australia I will ride for Australia you know that I'm Australian all the way yeah I'm citzenship Adidas

1:03:04 Tracksuits Roger corser that's enough yeah listen it's not it's not tell me they shouldn't have the tracksuits at least yeah they could do challenges in Adas tracksuits this is not squid games okay they don't need to be in a suit to do it yeah I think it's maybe they thought it's too close to squid games probably yeah anyways that is the end here of this live I think we've spoken about everything from this episode we will be back next week hopefully with mcky included if he can get his Tech sorted out consider subscribing to the channel hitting the like but button putting the notification Bell on we will go live on Thursday evening over here in Melbourne Sydney time at around the same time 9:00 p.m. to talk about this week's action of Australian Survivor no spoilers in the live please I haven't seen tonight's episode as of yet I'm going to have to go watch that straight afterwards so that I'm prepared for that on Thursday but I've liked the first two episodes this week and the first three episodes last week we're off to a very solid start on Survivor so if you're watching that make sure to tune in and then on the weekend we're back at our normal time for the challenge content obviously and we're looking forward to having everybody on there as well but for now

1:04:25 Have a good evening everybody and a good day morning wherever you are and we'll talk to you guys next time bye