The Traitors USA: Season 2 Episode 5 - Review

0:10 [Music] [Music] a [Music] [Music] hello everyone welcome back to the nuli tech channel here on YouTube where we've got the te texts for you on the recent episode of traitors us and ladies and gentlemen and everyone my name is maky Hope and I'll be your host for tonight as unfortunately Chris has got one a bit too many things to do but we are gladly joined back by one of the true Legends of the NFI take you know every time he opens his mouth you just want to laugh you just want to cry you just want to immerse in every tiny thing he says ladies and gentlemen he's a great here's the wonderful

1:31 He's the amazing Big Kahuna how are you lucky doing good sir doing very good mate I'm glad to be back on the Traders after meing last week for because we had a hell of an episode this week man it was a great episode it was a juicy episode and not just an orange juicy it was a banan juicy episode without the bananas right it was such a great episode a lot of chaos is happening and I'm looking forward to breaking it down with you tonight G absolutely I always look forward to it of course we have the people in the chat yes let's say a quick hello lovable Nikki hello Hopey you're doing amazing snuff finally made it live to breakfast love that brother love that Erin hello where's Chris so unfortunately Chris has got a lot to do with work at the moment so he yeah real life got in the way yeah how dare he right how D heah you know like we're putting our hearts and souls into this right and what's Chris doing you know he's just wandering off he's like now guys he's keeping the lights on he's keeping the lights on it's important work comes first unfortunately hello

2:51 Lovable Nikki and how are you K Mari how are you doing K obviously last week you're pretty sick how you doing now yeah doing well man doing good recovered you know just loving life we go there's always a lot going on the nullified take we doing I think we did four podcasts this last week so yeah and then we did that we did our own thing with the yes big foot encrypted discussion which we're going to have part two of at some point soon I'm sure but yeah we got a lot to get on to tonight for the Traders episode five was a hell of an episode man it really was so you oh wait who was it that got murdered who' got murdered in the previous episode again I was thinking U but then I realiz before yeah my bra actually gone blank now but anyways we're coming to the Breakfast Table and whatnot and immediately with this episode CA I was quite worried for Dan we've been hearing in the past few episodes he's not really giving a name he not really saying a name and he's still not showing any name like I think was CT he asked Dan have you got any oh it was Tamra thank you

4:11 Blood man it was Tamra that's right that's it was Tamra and we even see like in the like for Brick CT ask Dan like have you got any names or anyone your suspicions of and he's just saying no like what's your thoughts on Dan so far and the game he's playing I feel like his time is running out and he's on borrow time this he can certainly get his out of but I don't know I feel like he's kind of painted himself into a corner here by making it almost seem obvious that it's him like Lassa called early that it seemed like there's a patent to it that it was a male taking out strong male competitors and he's almost laid out the cookie crumbs and someone saying there has to be at least one male in the group at least one you know playing the averages playing the laws the odds and yeah it seems to be closing in around him anyway it's it feels like the net is getting tighter what do you think yeah it's really hard being in dense position right because when you think of who are the original trailers that going to be picked like there's the same with where Mad Dog pilot Pete which I'd love to talk about him a bit later on but he's with Kevin he's with Bergie he's with John and he's like guys

5:31 It's pretty obvious like we're not the we're not the male Trader right wild Earth with their pick us first whereas you got Dan you got bananas you got CT and whatnot so I think they're really starting to look at it from a wider perspective right obviously they're going to want like some reality stars like competitive reality stars like a Survivor a big brother or even like something from The Challenge to be part of the original Traders right yeah I think that's what everyone of logic is where if it's not Dan then will have to be a CT so I guess it's where some like a bananas would have really helped out down in the scenario because bananas you know I haven't really seen them in other shows but from what I know he is like a gameer and he is like a big player as well so absolutely yeah good to help Dan Escape yeah I mean I D Dan's making the logical move right like I feel like a smart game Yeah by being smart and logical it feels like it's leaving a trail like you know what I mean there's a signature there because it isn't completely random and doesn't make like it's leaving a signature that seems to be pointing to him and then he backs that up with his

6:52 I'm just a quiet dude I don't really talk much which apparently in this season of the Traders is oh you must you know equals bad if you don't talk and that's like I know that's what Chris always says about this game it feels like it's so much up to luck but that balance that delicate balance between being too out in front yeah saying too much and then being too quiet you know what I mean yeah I commented by love for Nikki Dan is playing a smart game Kahuna please I mean like he thinks he's making the right moves he's being he's trying to be strategic about his choices and stuff yeah like that I don't mean yeah I obviously it's not smart because he's leaving that trail like people are busting him but I do think that's his mind like that's what he's trying to do by taking out bananas by taking out Marcus who called him out like he thinks he's doing his the right thing as far as he goes yeah no it's even when like Janelle like started calling him out in the round table I was thinking that Dan shley is gone now because like he couldn't even give a name at the round table and then the one name he did give was like the person who was accusing him of being a traitor is like I don't know because

8:12 How does Dan get out of this scenario Kahuna like if you're Dan what do you do he has to give up one of the other Traders he does yeah and I feel like the better one would unfortunately have to be I know he's his logic originally was fedra is too hidden if we give her up as a Trader like that'll help us a lot because there's no way people are picking her before us as a Trader right which makes sense but I feel like now with that mindset of what you just said they kind of have gamed it they feel like there's probably one of the competitive game or they calling themselves The Gamers there's probably one of them in the lot there so if he can give up poverty maybe it takes some of the okay they've got a Survivor player we don't need to chase the Gamers so hard because maybe that fulfills the quota like if he gives up poverty you know what I mean yeah but I think giving up poverty is harder than it is harder than easier said than done at the moment because he seems to be the one that's sort of in most trouble it looks like yeah and I personally think that him and pavy are a great Dro together you know they're

9:32 Working extremely well but I think you know putting Pav's name out there it's going be much easier than putting Fager's name out there nobody likes her yeah because we'll get to that in the second be apparently nobody likes py but fedra hasn't done anything to make people like suspect her or question her and I think the murder on Tamara is actually extremely smart on dous part as well yeah because it took especially considering coming off of the last episode where the potential clash between pavy and feder was by throwing shade or throwing a spotlight on the on the Desperate Housewives so if one of the Desperate Housewives is killed then you know it wasn't you know they're not the traitors kind of thing and it kind of adds to it like I think someone said it in this episode that was it might have been CT but someone was saying they just don't see the or maybe Janelle actually yeah I think it's Janelle Jan The Desperate House just do not have the strategy you know what I mean like and which is so great because fedra sitting there like you know yeah golden in the sun just chilling in this like completely hidden amongst

10:52 The scary Gamers of Dan and py casting big Shadows to hide in like I know that there always needs to be like minimum of true of two Traders but I think if fedra was the only Trader I think she makes it all the way to the end like because I think I think Dan's time is pretty much up I think pvy could potentially be the next Traer out but none's coming after fedra not once has anyone thrown any suspicion on fedra no and it's even like it's almost like the perfect amount of hidden because someone like a Bergie or a John where they said there's no chance of them being a traiter like you would almost go well they're so un Trader likee that maybe the producers might throw a spanner in the thing and actually pick someone but someone like fedra is just dead smack in the middle like no one's thinking about her as an outside chance no one's thinking about as an on like an oddson favorite at like one of the game is he's just kind of there and not being a threat at all and it's pretty fascinating to watch actually yeah and you let's quickly talk you know at the start of the episode where we were Liv on a massive

12:13 Cliffhanger you know go where pavy and fedra do have this blow up and fedra is like nobody likes you py you know everyone thinks you're a Trader and it really did seem like that there was going to be this huge like Trader argument like were you surprised that it only lasted for like five seconds and then they were completely a good no I think I think no I'm not surprised because I think like fedis to me anyway she seems smart she knows like causing that kind of rockus is not a good thing to do so she's being smart about it but she's still making it clear to py like don't mess with me like yeah she'll bite she'll she'll stand up for herself don't bring it my way we if we're doing this we're doing this but don't play games with me and I really dug that and pav seemed to like take it on board as well you know what I mean like it's not like she really stood up she was like I'm really sorry I didn't mean anything by it blah and I think fedra got to sort of establish herself a little bit more in the group and not let the game and sort of overtake which she hasn't anyway but she's also put a foot down do not mess with me do not try to come for me do not put you know shade on my name

13:33 Which I appreciate her putting that out there I like that she says you want to go to war we can but let's be cool and kind of keep the peace and I mean obviously for fedra I think it was like genius that she had taken out you know Tamara over Sandra because those are the two main options for the murder do you think that this was the right move for Dan and pavy as well for Tam to be taken out I'm not sure actually I'm not sure how they got that got that over the line as well and made that choice because I didn't see as you said I think it works really well for fedra like it took yeah like coming off of that round table where the he the spotlight was put firmly on The Housewives to have a housewife go home re looks really good for fedra I don't know what benefit it gives to Dan and P because tamaron didn't feel like a threat at all you know like Janelle feels like a real gamer she and she is she's one of the Big Brother whatever but she seems like she's getting it you know what I mean but I don't know like Tamara did not feel like a threat in the game did not feel like much of an

14:53 Entity at all I don't know why she became the target from a Dan and point of view what do you Reon yeah I mean I think it was a classic case of they gave it to fedra and it was between Sandra and T and I potentially think that Sandra is may be a really good Ally to both Dan and pav at this stage in the game like we saw that you know she's or good with CT and so I think you know when it's between someone who you're allied with and then you know someone who you're not really allied with maybe you kind of just let fager have this one just because of the previous round table yeah just as a smoo as a as a peace offering yeah let's just quickly look at some of the cheeky comments here mahuna from lovable Nikki I agree fedra is on no one's radar so he'd have to do too much work to yeah to get her out right now yeah absolutely I think fed's playing a very under the radar game and I think it will be a long time before anyone starts suspecting F perhaps even the ingame so many people that you would think would be ahead of her like in the pecking order right like as far as traiter Vibes or fear like I don't know what criteria they do but just in the general ethereal

16:13 Like are there a traitor in this fedra would be would be down the list there' be a lot of people ahead of there I think yeah absolutely poverty at up Dan yeah so in the and the and the Tells at the end of the episode K you know we get a chat where well I mean let's quickly talk about it now right Mad Dog Pistol Pete right you know everyone's perceptions of him was very low coming into season he's just a bachelor what strategy does he know all he knows how to do is just hand out roses to a very beautiful woman and then just marry one of them by the end right where's the strategy in that well this man gave his roses to us this episode K where he comes with a great plan where he obviously it was Bergie and was it Bergie and Janelle who found the shield it was noan yeah trelle and Janelle was with Pete with Pete that's right that's right so it was bur andelle they found the shield but they decided that as an Outsiders you get for people who are outside that they'll keep it a secret but Pete tells the people who is most expected of which is CT py and Dan that actually

17:33 He has the shield right seeing if they'll take the bait on going after Bergie and we do see that Dan wants to take out Bergie what's your thoughts on pilot Pete at this point I mean yeah like I who said it someone Sandra said I think they teach you that at Pilot School like Pilot School like it's it was clever move I'm really interested the fact that he picked CT Dan and py as his suspects like the three in the gamer sort of group and dropped it with them I'm really hoping that like because he's right but I'm hoping he's not wrong in his rightness and this lands on CT instead of Dan it doesn't feel like it like he seems to be centered on Dan focused on Dan a lot and as I said like not only was this when I said earlier the net seems to be tightening around Dan this is just another one of those things is that pilot Pete sort of got his feelers out and has at least got some data back on what to do is it does he think it's povery does he think it's CT does he think it's thing because yeah if Dan what Dan saying like he's gonna pick Bergie is

18:53 Such a weird like he really believed Pete right yeah he really did yeah which power even brought up there like oh cuz he told me the exact same thing but in a separate private convo so obviously so he's lying right obviously but no I gotta go for Bergie like he's not playing it save Mad Dog Dan wants to go for the risk like it's such a shame that Chris isn't here kah because I would have loved to see Chris dive deep on how this is a genius plan by Dan you know because the way Chris loves Dan and Rogue right it's P's got it right there she said we have to like we can't risk it you got to just pick someone on the inside of the castle you can't even risk a shield getting in the way and blocking you know that sort of thing Pete that was a smart play by Pete yeah do you think that Pete is gonna is gonna clock Dan in this move like do you reckon if Dan does go for Bergie and obviously it fails because burgus got the shield do you think that is enough for Dan to out of the game I mean it's one of three yeah it's one of three right and he's got two he's got two out of the three in his sights

20:13 Like he could take he could take a shot e like randomly and get a 66% chance here you know like yeah so I don't know like I'm thinking he probably and I'm thinking he's leaning most towards Dan like Dan's looking sus to people already so yeah let's quickly say hello to a few other people in our chat kiwi skirt welcome to the live and JY John sorry for my Miss pronunciation f is playing the best game right now but D might throw it under the bus next week I think we already talked about it I think if Dan throws fedra under the bus it's much harder to actually convince people to get on board that train but if he throws P under the bus I think more people would actually would actually consider putting P's name up what's your thoughts the thing is as well if either of them catch a sniff if pvy suspects Dan's trying to play sneaky buggers at all he's so much easier to flip like if she if she decided to turn I think with one or two words here and there like people are just waiting to pull the trigger on Dan I think especially now with pilot Pete in the mix if she turns on him too

21:34 Like I think she I think she has to now as well right if they miss here and we don't know but if they do go a Bergie and they walk into breakfast a Bergie or Chelle's not on the on the menu at the moment but if Dan gets his way goes to Bergie he walks in not only do they have to play like oh like what's going on but P knows that Pete has Flo that she said he's obviously lying he's put it to both of us so she's going to have to come and go hey like you were right like you came like I don't know like how do you play that like you told me you had it what's yeah I don't like I'm not sure like it's a really interesting play that Pete's done here puts them in a in a hard spot by actually putting it on both of them that they have that knowledge now when you have that knowledge what do you do with it yeah how you play it and I definitely do think you know like if this plan of Pete works out then I definitely think I definitely think that Dan is gone yeah I can see p potentially going before him but I think there's already too much suspicion on Dan and this would be like the cherry on

22:55 [Music] top I mean yeah oh after you no please pleas keep going I was just gonna say because like how else can Dan really get out of this like what cards does he really have I don't know like I said he has to sacrifice poverty he has to give up poverty but like I said if she suspects at all if she has any suspicion that Dan's I'm trying to backstab her then she can easily drop bombs I think like he's got he's right on the like Tipping Point and if she like adds a little bit of fuel to that fire because I think she's actually protected him a little bit like there's been conversations where she's kind of directed away from him but also just by being there she's another suspicion away from him or a little bit of a meat Shield if she then turns on him and actually adds Fu to it adds a little bit of momentum to you know the anti- Dan sentiment then I think she's got more than enough to push it over the edge yeah absolutely comment here from SN all the murders over them bananas have been very safe yeah that is true that's something I've noticed where I feel like bananas was the only murder that was ever like we' got to get a threat out

24:16 Whereas all the other murders have been like what is the safest way that doesn't put any Target on us but also like puts a lot of confusion on people cuz if few Marcus was very targeted like Dan like there was it was one conversation but Marcus called him out and says hey I don't like how you do it you don't say anything and then Dan you know took him out so that was very that was very that's why I said before that he feels like he's doing the right thing by playing it to his game but in doing so it leaves it a trail like it feels like it's a little bit too signature based so then after that it did sort of get mixed up I guess with Tam Tamra was only Tamra yeah and ensu my dearly beloved but ekin Su wasn't by Yeah by Dan I guess ensu was kind of random I don't think would have chosen ensu was just opportunity Murder By opportunity yeah I mean because if you're a Trader because we've seen many different styles of Trader gameplay do you kind of do what Dan is doing and you just actively Target people cuz we saw that with Sam where it's like in TR Australia where people who are quite suspicious of Sam who would actively Target them

25:36 Yeah or do just sort of take out the what's it called sort of like the Kon F really and just try and create as much confusion as possible I feel like you got to take out the people that are would be the biggest threats right yeah but are they the biggest threats like are they obviously the biggest threats to you so like we always say like once you well they always say on the show like once they get called out you can't then attack them because it's obvious that you did so the Traders then Target them because it looks like someone else you know what I mean like you plant suspicion and blame elsewhere yeah I don't know man like I don't it's pilot really in like impressed me with that it can it can really explode and I'm hoping Dan does go for a Bergie I hope he gets his way and misses because it's it again it feels like it's just one of those like hubris Pride cometh before the fall like he trusted his read so much on Pete when P's telling him to his face and he's like

26:56 No like I know what I'm doing I want Bergie and then for it to backfire I really like I'm hoping that's the outcome here it would be such fascinating TV yeah and yeah we've got a comment here from snuff Dan can be that stupid to fall for Peter spff surely but I mean I think you guys are forgetting that Peter is a bachelor all right you know he knows how to play the social game right he knows how to hang out with a lot of different very beautiful people really sweet talk them so then every thinks that the is number one yeah but then he gets rid of one of them each week right and I think maybe Peter's done a great job socially integrating himself especially as a faithful as well because not only do people like not only aren't they not expecting it from him to be a traitor but I think that's really just like helped him move forward in the game so people just won't suspect he's a traitor yeah I also really like that the people that he's surrounding himself he confy says I know they're not tra and he's looking at it and going like they're not Trader material whether he's seen the show before or not I'm assuming he has because he's right like when he looks at a John when he looks at a Bergie like no producer would ever go I'm gonna pick these dudes to

28:16 Be a traiter you know what I mean so you can go and surround yourself with them and build your alliance with them because you know with almost certainty that like they're not even in the equation like you know what I mean like some of the others you might go maybe they are maybe they're not but some of these guys are just like no there's zero chance so then he attaches himself to them to build his little Alliance of the of the non threats which is was good to surround you with you know what I mean yeah we do have coming here hi guys just woke up 6:15 GL C live thank you so much for coming here really early hours in the morning good morning good morning and we do have a very interesting comment here Dan's fault is underestimating other players and failing to adapt so here's like a really interesting like argument I'd left have with yukun obviously with Dan he came out of retirement to come and play this game right he played the two seasons of Big Brother he did extremely well P off very phenomenal moves have you seen his seasons of brother okay good by reputation yeah so when you have like that like that massive of a reputation right like everyone sees you as one of the best like you walk around thinking that you are one of the best and you come into a

29:36 Game like this do you think that exposes you to being outplayed by players who just don't think it's on your level like even just by like the smallest things so he would I mean maybe it depends on the person like we're talking about people that are in as much as reality competition show like these are people that have been multiple seasons of Television like there's a certain level of ego that comes with that you know what I mean and the fact that he's won once came second the other time and is considered one of the greatest he gets in and sees that he's playing with bling Dynasty and Desperate Housewives and you know that sort of thing maybe he does think he's a little bit above it and he's playing a little bit sloppy but I don't know I just think like the Traders is such a hard game to game like to meta out to strategy out and he's trying really hard to do that but when you go off of like feelings and Vibe and like the smallest thing it's hard to dodge that sort of thing you know and his the whole thing so far with Dan obviously Pete laying a trap gives actual realistic and verifiable information

30:57 Between CT Dan and poverty but outside of that it's just being you don't say enough you're too quiet like you know what I mean like it's not like he's even if he was gamed up to play this game and he's not Rusty and pass it when you're saying that sort of thing like you're talking about oh so I didn't say enough and now I'm screwed like it's such a like a weird criteria to go out on you know what I mean like it's you can't predict the sort of thing when the whole thing is the whole thing is based on Vibes yeah we do have a comment here from love Nikki praying for Dan's downfall at the next round table well not going to likee Kahuna I'm also kind find that bandwagon because here's the thing right every time we do one of these reality TV shows it's always my favorites they get taken out really early right but Chris's favorites somehow always goes very deep so Dan gets taken out early we're going to see next week Chris is going to be the one crying it's not going to be me I've already had my moment right I've already moved on it's fine but Chris will be the one that is sad I will we be excited for that as well I think the bigger message that you need to if you if we're analyzing it and look a little bit deep just take one step deeper

32:17 Mony the bigger message is that you said Chris's pcks always go for far and my pics my favorite people always go out I think there's a message in that like maybe the people that you like are not good at the things that they're doing or maybe all of Chris's favorites have been rigged from the start he knows the spoilers of the seasons so he knows who goes deeper who doesn't we do have a comment here as well by IR if Traders tried to murder Bergie would be the first attempt to murder due to the shield no there's been there's one murder in Traders New Zealand I believe there was one in Traders Australia as well yeah I yeah TR Australia as well so it'll be the first for USA but not for international but let's move on to the challenge Kahuna so everyone hops outside and they have to split it up into two into two teams you have an outside team where they have to run to all the different spots with the bird sounds and the inside team who has to match the sound with the with the bird that's inside if you're playing this I mean once again I feel really stupid for asking you this just like the hiking question and our last book for

33:37 Podcast are you gonna be in the inside Sandra and fedra inside like you're not even worried about the Shield or anything I mean if I'm in the game you're probably going for the shield but I don't know which one I want to do is I would have been like who was it I think it was Bergie or someone like just completely cracking up when they're doing the bird sound yeah like it was so good to build in a challenge where that be like and Allan's just watching them run around the castle screaming and again any challenge where you can get John like being frantic and running around like with a like a chicken with his head cut off is just television gold I love seeing that little dwarf run around yeah and it was so funny cuz even when i' given the answers to alen like it felt like a narration from John it's like the bird is kind of like a David aten the aners I really loved this Challenge and I loved that it was it was Kevin and someone else who was partnered up with Kevin was that Janelle and how they got lost yeah no

34:57 No it wasn't Janelle was with Pete it was it MJ it must have been MJ yeah it must been an MJ and how they went out you running to try to find the shield and they got lost got try to find the shield and then it sh it shereé oh yeah awesome yeah I just loved how like they get lost trying to find the shield and then you got the people and going green team we haven't heard from you that's also why I give a little bit of extra props to Pete because he was aware of the fact that they were taking a while and got lost and he turned that into if we've taken ages they'll believe that we've got the Shield like we went for the shield that's why like when someone said before do you think they'll believe Pete's Bluff I think it works because he built it off the back of we took ages like we were the last one to call in a bird sound you know and like we were gone for a while so they must assume that we were looking for the shield so that sort of added a bit of cover to his story which I think was pretty smart to pick up on that yeah have you got a favorite bird by any chance a CA

36:17 A CA what type of bird is that the C is an Australian dinosaur that basically looks like a velociraptor wait that's right we're looking at this the other night that's right that's right that's right it stands at about six foot has razor blades on its feet a giant like horn on its head yeah and I think there was this report recently that it killed a man in Florida that was you know Florida Man story which is always great they're trying to keep a bird like a castle it's tough Stu or that one in New Zealand that John Oliver did John MOA or kiwi no he got there was a competition last year to make for bird of the year or something or the official bird of New Zealand and John Oliver influenced it and made this really weird the Ticky bird or something made it the bird of the Year New Zealand bird because oh for those who want to know more about our thoughts and opinions on the dinosaur bird in Australia what's your channel called is it justun Vision check out Kahuna Vision where Kahuna and I the other day talked about Sasquatches mystical creatures

37:38 And this dinosaur bird as well we do K Vision yes it was a it was a great chat and we're probably going to do some more in the future as well so highly recommend checking that out but we do have a surprise entrance here actually yeah where you know like I saw some rumors online about a player potentially entering him but I was like nah no I'm not going to do that but then they did they brought back Kate what's your thoughts on them bringing Kon quite like into the game I don't know why like I was a bit M on it I was like I guess she was she was entertaining because she caused a little bit of havoc and Ruckus by not doing challenges and stuff but it's not like she was some force of you know traitor detecting power she was just a bit of a and got on people's nerves and called it as she saw it so it's good entertainment but I don't understand the need to bring him back in like she's not like she's an expert you know like on Survivor they would have returning players as seen as more of an expert player as a veteran I don't see her as being advantaged or any better off in this by coming in late and being on the second

38:58 Season but I don't I don't know why like what do you Reon of it I was a bit like wait who is this again and not to go back and relook at the cast of Chas season one to actually remember who she was and pretty much same as you I was like okay so she started drama here and there yeah but it's like but that's literally it like it's not like she was like a massive Traer hunter or something you know exactly yeah like if she was voted out early too early and deserved that second shot or she was really on the right track and got taken out you know whatever it is it was she was just there like and caused drama so yeah and a great comment here I don't know how I feel about Kate being back has happened any other versions not of the Traders but I do know it happened on a strali big brother one time it's the only season of Big Brother I watched and also one with Luke where they brought on a past player who was like a massive player like in the previous season sort of halfway into the game but I'm not sure how I feel about Kate coming back in this late because like I mean it's obvious that she's not a traitor because they haven't gotten any of the Traders out yeah and it's like she's just such an easy murder like why don't they just murder her yeah I think because she will always be an

40:18 Easy murder like you know what I mean like she's just you kind of know and I mean would she would she even a good recruit like to maybe throw someone off the scent so hard to get someone laid in and then recruit them or would they think that she's in to be recruited you know as a Traer like I don't understand the benefits of it Beyond drama but so far she's chill anyway like yeah you know like it was quite funny you know like with the with her and kin having a small back for at the round table where K's like okay how I want to do this is I want to say my peace and everyone just listen and then she's like wait who's that guy again and he's like hey Kate are you not listening and she goes you want to vote for her I got it I understand it all it's [Laughter] fine Kevin is Kevin's a weird one man he was he was hard on the Janelle train man like yeah he was really hot I almost felt a bit bad for jel because I feel like she did have some traction going but I feel like the second that she started throwing out names that's would when her game started unring you she threw out CT's name Dan's name and Sandra's name

41:39 Like I feel like for the banishment just only throw out one name well we've said before on Australia I feel like The Meta would be to as soon as you know who the Traders I will have a pretty good suspicion of who they are you kind of want to not get them out and be and cast suspicion their way and but befriend them and sit in their little protected you know protection kind of thing so it's an interesting approach anyway for sure that Janelle unfortunately I think she kind of brought it on herself by being like I said that balance that really delicate intricate fine line that you dance between too quiet and too loud and she went over the too loud like she was throwing out too much to the point where it made people suspicious do you think as well that like it was a series of events that also made people be very suspicious of her like right from the start she was she was probably like a really selfish faithful just the amount of times that she would rush out to grab the shield yeah you she also had that fight with like IU for shield as well and even like after the challenge I really like this moment as well after the challenge Alan is like does anyone want to confess to have a shield or keep it a secret and Janelle goes as a team

43:00 We want to keep the shield a secret and I feel like when you just really put yourself in that leadership position especially someone who's been quite selfish racing off to grab sh was left right center I think this creating enough suspicion on you already don't you think yeah I also feel like she was maybe like it goes too far like in my own head like it's such a weird thing but in my head I'd be like okay she's going too hard or so hard that a traitor would not be trying to be that obvious like you know what I mean like she's acting really obvious and selfish right now maybe too suspicious but it's so suspicious that a traitor would be like oh look maybe have a little bit of caution and she didn't she threw caution to the wind and Just Came Out Swinging and right in her in her you know her thoughts and her suspicions were are correct so her instincts are right but she just couldn't get the people across the board because she just felt a little bit too full on I think especially in comparison to Dan who is so cool calm and collected we do have a couple comments here Kevin was too much at the round table I did not like

44:20 How he was talking to people I mean I don't I just found it really funny you know like kev's gameplay is so out there and it's so weird like I loved it I think it was yeah it was after U had got poisoned he was like well I [Laughter] didn't what's up guys here like Kevin is hard to watch lot I don't know I find it really funny I really do you know something that I miss from shows like Survivor it's just people making really bad gameplay decisions and you know people who obviously don't know the game that well and what not like that's what I love about traders that people are so convinced it's someone even if it's like quite obviously not them like Lassa but they just go so hard at it and it's always just so funny to watch I love that Kevin has already multiple times and I think multiple people have said Kevin is just too stupid to be a traitor like he's just got a reputation of they all know he's dumb like when people are saying it out loud like how dumb are you coming across like yeah to be that obvious if people like calling him out on television and again he makes up that little crew of Bergie John and Kevin that Pete's

45:40 Kind of gone these three idiots no one there's no chance that they can be traitor so I'm going to be around them I kind of dig that Kevin falls into that group imagine if that's the final four of the show like can you actually believe that like if this like the very end is it's pilot Pete madk Legend John and Bergie Legend That'll be amazing that be F absolutely amazing yeah Peter done he said he and J had the shield to sh time I don't think so I think that yeah what SN said in the next comment I don't think Shield protects you from banishment it's only from murder from murders yeah when yeah Shields don't protect from banishment there was in the Australian version in season one a super like a super Shield where they had to do a separate like challenge like the first three to finish the thing can then do a separate Shield Challenge and then that gets a shield which was for both banishment and murder but okay this one is only banishment it's a little bit easier to get you just have to run off in the other direction for two minutes like you can't get you can't get immunity from safety from banishment

47:01 As well just for the simple way they get the shields as well yeah what do you think of like the shield so far because I quite like how open all the shields have been it's like yeah here's a challenge you don't have to have to do a challenge and then randomly see if you're going to get the Shield or not it's like the shields are right there if you want to grab them you can otherwise just do the mission what's your thought on that yeah it adds a level of complexity and strategy because one of the things that about the random pick in the Armory or whatever of the shields was like automatically they knew the meta was like to shut up don't say anything but this you have to kind of put your cards in the table do people know that you have it protect yourself that way and this was the first time we've seen that not play out in that they could hide if they actually got the shield or not yeah and the first time that was really a viable option Pete throws out a new strategy with it and uses it to his Advantage so that's really cool I'm hoping there's other chances where they might be able to use Shield play in different ways U because so far it's just I went and got it because I want protection and I'm safe and I'm good and I and they come out and they go like that's the first time I slept okay you know things like

48:21 That so it's important to get but I'm hoping that it can be used more strategically than just straight up protection for one individual like how can it be used more advantageously yeah is there anything else from this episode that we haven't covered I guess we could what do you think is actually going to happen here like prediction wise because they left it on a cliffhanger again is it going to be Bergie is it going to like who are the other who are the other options that they kind of left it with I know Bergie for Dan and they wanted fedra and py wanted someone else I think it was kin Kevin yeah well I mean there is some insid information did you watch the next time up was it straight after I don't know maybe I didn't was straight after yeah I didn't then you didn't okay well I'm I won't really talk about it then but they did actually spoil what happens oh really go are you sure well it's part of the thing right well actually I don't know is it spoiler alert if it's actually in theual yeah it was it was on the next time on it was a overhead shot of the round table and you can see who oh yeah okay yeah I

49:41 Did see that I did see that did see that yeah so that means they did go isn't it because he was there because he was there and if you count everyone and it wasn't an old shot's not in it like it wasn't an old I believe she's not know okay yeah there you go no it's not spoiled anymore okay yeah no so obviously they did take the shot at berie go so I feel like this is it for Dan it has to be right unless like I said Pete extrapolates and does his calculations and lands on a CT or p over Dan but I do think everything points to Dan and when Bergie walks in and both py and Dan are like oh they're going to realize that they got done by Pete I think the poverty the move is you have to actually go to Pete and say like what again I asked before what is the approach there like how does py play that off like be like I guess it doesn't matter right like you can go oh was it you like you told me you've got it and you're safe maybe they must have tried to murder you right like you go to Pete and go like they had to

51:01 Have a shot at you everyone's still here you've got the thing and pretend that you still believe him like that's the way you got to play it off right yeah definitely and then maybe just sort of sweet talk you to being like did you tell this to anyone else and then just wait for Peter to give a name she doesn't remember yeah probably yeah so I think both our Productions are pretty much the same that Dan is gone next episode yeah I'd say so if Pete's smart enough here again like I said Dan could do the same thing right like the whole thing of this game is based on Mafia or werewolf and the whole purpose of that game it was designed specifically to back up a dude's thesis that a small majority small minority with information over an uninformed majority will always win yeah right so Dan as soon as Bergie walks in and they realize like we missed that he has information that other people don't have and anytime you have that information he may be able to weave a way out of it like I said I would go to Pete and go that means they tried to take a shot at

52:21 You've got the you've got the shield like they both have to do it and the first one there or they both play it off that way you know what I mean like and then CT cops it but cuz CT doesn't know he doesn't know what's going on he can he might think the same thing but he doesn't associate the same urgency with getting to it you know what I mean yeah do you think I mean this was just a random thought I had in my head but I don't see how it would help Dan do you think this there's a chance that Dan and py could turn it on to Pete for making such a boldg Rive move like that turn it back on him like as far as the getting him banished yeah or Mur like they can obviously murder him at any point but that would be dangerous as hell because he's dropped their names to a few people now but I don't see how they can get it behind him get it back on him because he's got that group of like dummies that he surrounded himself with remember on the Australian version how Sam had Liam yeah and he would just do what he had he's got three of them now like you know I mean like there's multiple Liams that are just like yeah and if he's smart enough to play them he's not a traitor he's a faithful person so I think he knows he's got them in his pocket and he can sell it especially when you've got such dangerous

53:41 Scary people as a Dan looking so juicy and obvious you know what I mean like that's such an easy s par is a much easier sell than them turning everyone on Pete like how do they make that 180 turn on Pete when Pete's got quite a few people trusting him at the moment yeah and as you're talking I sort of just realized that this move won't actually help Dan because I feel like you know Dan's whole thing is you know when I shoot I don't miss I get 100% right and then if he just if he gets a faithful out it's sort of like well You' literally just was yeah see but that could backfire the other way as well right because he hasn't done anything so far he hasn't throw names out and people are like he's too quiet he's not throwing names out if he does throw a name out and he does that thing of I don't miss when I shoot then people go how do you not miss like why did you not miss where we're throwing out freaking names all over the place and we're missing because we don't know anything but you take you say one name you're quiet All Season you decide all of a sudden you want to take a shot and boom you know exactly who it is like that's a suspicious thing as well you got to be careful of and I'm worried Dan might be a little bit too like I think what the

55:01 Vibe that I'm getting off Dan at the moment is that he's a little bit too black and white in his gaml and he's like I'm doing it this way and this is going to work whereas and people and it's he's got to go in between the gray a little bit more I'm playing it quiet and then he's too quiet and now I feel like he's going I'm going to turn it on a bit and he might go too hard as well like it's binary it's not you know it's one or the other it's on or off and it's a hard way to play when you need a little bit of nuance to it you know what I mean yeah absolutely but unfortunately Kahuna that is the end of our live stream if you're new to the Channel smash that subscribe button down below and leave a comment on your thoughts on this episode as well do you think do you think Dan's goose is cooked or do we can he somehow makes his way out of it you know even though I haven't seen it I've definitely heard many stories from Chris on how on how Dan has literally escaped The Impossible before and if you're into other content we'll be recapping the first week of Australian Survivor as well episodes 1 to3 have we got a sit date for that or was that just in the upcoming days it's gonna be on Thursday on Thursday night Thursday same time same time 900 PM Australian daylight savings time like

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