Traitors NZ 2 Finale Recap

0:00 A [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] welcome back to the nullified welcome back oh well welcome back everyone you know dramatic opening Julia wasn't looking at the counter you know I'm lost I'm lost for words but we're back we're back Julia the finale of Traders New Zealand we're finally here at the end

1:20 How's it feel h i mean I'm sad because we have to hopefully wait another year you know and let's just hope that we can pull out another Traders New Zealand you know if we can if we can do it that would be amazing but man I just want to say right now did I not call Bailey is taking it out on day one you did you did like I think you addressed it on the first week but I was like nah no surely not and then week two is like oh maybe but then once Bailey became a Traer boom she just took over the game Bamboozled everyone and you know let's just quickly say it now congratulations to Bailey for being the winner of Traders New Zealand season two you know she rewrote history of season one where you know the Traer finally got to win you know like he was so gutted that Brooke couldn't win last season and I don't know about you Julia but I'm actually like really happy that Bailey won that a Trader won this season she deserved it man she deserved that one because she played I'm gonna say

2:40 I reckon the best Trader game that I've ever seen it was unbelievable she was so under the radar she played both sides so incredibly well yeah you know she got the balance perfect you know for being average because it's a game about not being a threat keeping a low profile you know and she hit that perfectly and to not to keep a low profile for that long is unbelievable it's a it's a she played a fabulous game yeah well who I think played the hardest game yeah definitely we definitely be talking about n soon but like Brook in my opinion from last season like I thought he was the best Traer to ever play the game like I know a lot of people would say Sam from trans Australia season 2 but I feel like a lot of that had to do with the fact that the cast like clearly wasn't that on onto Sam really like he had such control of the game which was that credit to Sam or was a credit to the faithfuls like not really thinking that much but Brooke I thought played a phenomenal game but I think I might agree I think bayy is probably the best Trader I've ever seen play of the game like her name hardly came up and when it did very

4:00 Quickly like quietened down all the way until the very the very end so yeah I think I agree with you Bailey definitely is tra play the game yeah and she what I loved is watching her trajectory towards the end you know her slowly becoming yeah I don't think Savage is the right word but she's been tactical she's been strategic and she was going I'm willing to you know throw some people under the bus I'm ready to go and shocked C you know he was like dang she is here to play you know and I actually caught up with s last week and you know I had no idea of the outcome because I said do not tell like you know I just did not want to know I don't even think I told him I don't want to know I just he was great he just kept it quiet because it's well firstly he can't tell me but secondly I wanted I wanted the excitement of having to watch like everyone else so yeah really fantastic last two episodes amazing absolutely phenomenal and you know I just want to say off the top as well I think Traders New Zealand is hands down the best Traders franchise

5:21 In the globe right now like I think just with like the game play the RO moments even this Grand Finale Julia like I feel like every of it was like watching like you know like something in like a masterful cinematic experience right where everything was just so dramatic so tense like I was thrilled the whole way through and no reveal no reveal whether or not they're Traders or faithful which is what you guys were thirsty for last season you know and you see them through the Reddit what is it like theads and stuff threats yeah people would you know last year when I haven't been on Reddit for since last year but I know that was a common theme saying hey we wish it would be way more exciting and a better gameplay if they didn't reveal who was a Trader and who was a faithful on that last day and that's exactly what they did they listened to the people you know soting so much harder yeah definitely because I feel like at that stage like do you keep playing them all the way to the final two or like you know like do you just be like no okay I think I'm done because if you know there are two Traders left

6:42 Like at one point you say no I want to stop you get what I mean it's crazy man and like they had the opportunity if they had done the numbers right but they were sure that there was you know yeah I mean if they could have stopped at any moment you know like they could have stopped and gone oh yeah we think this is us it could be me you know Bailey and you know Donna Bailey Joe and then stop there they can stop at any moment it's pretty crazy man pretty crazy something I was extremely impressed by was at the final five I was you know I' paused right before the round table and I was thinking okay how is Bailey going to get out of this oh same because everyone is you know onto her I feel like Sally is in such a strong point where even though Jason has kind of caught on to him like he's still got Joe right and I feel like you know Jason he also has clocked Bailey so he might as well get out one while the numbers are there I was just so impressed on how she was able to turn things onto SE turn things onto Joe as well like it was just phenomenal and there was a there absolutely element of luck there where we went oh man it's definitely you know it's all over for the Traders and it could be a faithful win

8:02 When Jace bought out the paper and said I know that it's bile and I know that it's Sali and it looks like Joe was going yeah I'm with you and then we almost had this Bree moment you know where we're like oh yeah he's on the same page as jaay where we're off and Away here and then bam you know it's like you Jay yeah you had the right idea before no oh my God but it's that's the game you get speed wobbles and then you question everything right so you kind of go oh yeah you're on to it and then you kind of go oh because you're so tired at the end I just remember pure exhaustion on that last day of just being I don't care anymore you know and just so tired and whatever I'll lose are you're just so tired yeah so and that was crazy that was that was so lucky that you know for Bailey that Joe swung and he said I think that's suspicious that Jay is saying trust me trust me yeah well a checky comment here from Andre which first of all thank you so much brother once again like I feel like you are actually

9:22 Like the poor Henry of this podcast Andre cuz you're just throwing money left right and Center I really appreciate all the support giving us to the channel bro you are an absolute Legend thank you so much bro but also this comment here it's all Joe's fault on how this season ended and it's kind of true I mean like I don't know how I would be if I was in a final four situation like that especially not knowing like because like maybe this is going a bit too behind the scenes but you know when you're at your final four could you communicate with any of the players or is it literally you stand there and just write down the name no yeah no more chitchat so they would have you know after that banishment where Cali got taken out they would have been all separated from that very moment so that round T was the last time for actual conversations about things so I imagine you would have had to go from that very moment okay what is it who is it what am I going to play and Jay had it so right you know he goes n it's those two I don't care I'm going again I'm coming for baile this time I'm going again I'm going again I'm rock solid and actually similar play you know jaay was a bit like me at the

10:43 End where I was like I know it's Colin and I know it's Brooke but I have to go for one or the other and I went the wrong way round but I just couldn't vote for Colin because he was my friend and then it was unfortunately we had the situation where I was coming for Brooke again the fire pit and to be honest it would have made no difference anyway to the outcome of the game but yeah we were being separated and then for a moment there somebody that was supervising us stepped out of the room and that's when Brook had an opportunity to talk to me and was like it's not me it's not me it's like yeah what and I just got the speed wobbles got the speed wobbles again and I went what sure no I know that it's you it's you yeah the same thing it's just like with Joe you go what no you kind of you just get speed wobbles and question you're so tired yeah it was a wonderful ending it was so unexpected I just cannot believe that Bailey pulled that off and yeah the odds were not in her favor at that last fire P that was wild yeah and like I mean I really did feel for Joe here because when I saw Joe's vote for Jason

12:03 I was like oh no he accidentally took himself out the game Al like how is he you know to like he was kind of onto Bailey but I think maybe he was trying to think well there some sus on Jason why not go to Jason now but I guess we can't communicate like you just got make a judgment call just hope it's right hey hope it's right yeah so a lot of it I know a lot of it is strategy but so much of it is luck as well and I think Dylan on that last week it's luck you know so much the time yeah that was C crazy and what an emotional moment oh gosh just the how being so crushed for Donna at the end yeah but yeah dang bad calls bad calls you just can't because what's so interesting about Traders and yeah there something done always love talking about because I love comparing it to Survivor where in Survivor it's like okay you can go to the end with your mate because at the end of the day it's the people who voted out decides who wins so like okay who played a better game who's got better relationships with the jury and even though the Traders is such a social game and it's all about you know building relationships and stuff like that you can't really fully

13:23 Trust and rely on your friends because they could be a Trader so it's like at one point do even like flip on your best friend right like CU didn't you I forgot what it was I think it was during like the king's one going after I had a panic yeah because I during the round table I was GNA go for Kings again H well actually I never the funny thing was that I never voted for Kings not once because I was never convinced and we had all decided that we were going to go and vote King's that Round Table and then during that banishment it was something that Brook said as he was like oh this is all distractions and I went I feel yeah it's not Kings it's got this is too noisy why and so I had like this moment mid banish you know mid round table and I kind of panicked and I was like who could it be I don't think it's Sam it's going to be either Brooke or it's going to be Anna or I pretty sure it's Brooke but if I vote for Brooke and I don't have the votes which I'm certainly not he'll murder me tonight so I voted for Anna to try and stay in because I just wasn't sure who the other Trader was at that stage

14:43 It wasn't until the last day that I went oh yeah definitely Colin and it's definitely Brock and then there were no murders that night anyway so I was like oh no I'm toast I'm done for yeah so it's so hard man you panic and a lot of the edits they don't show that stuff or things that you've said one-onone to the camera you know like even when seali and I caught up last week I said it's mindblowing is isn't it because you sometimes are kind of you played the game and you're excited for the show to come out because you're like oh this is my moment where I look real cool or I good and then they don't show it and yeah something that is so interesting about the Traders G I love is that is a 247 game right cuz for your season wasn't it seven days long I no 10 days so we did 10 episodes 10 days because we had 19 players oh wow 18 yeah and but you're playing like the whole time like there isn't a single break when you're playing versus like Survivor you do get your day breaks and stuff like that you know sort of in between where you don't have to strategize as much the TR con looking for slip UPS constantly looking for you know any sort of reason to banish anyone

16:04 Right because I Traer and yeah like the stress must definitely really get to you I just because you're so isolated as well you know like they you're separated you can't talk to anyone at all you know if you're having lunch or something you're monitored so nobody can have any conversations that aren't you know okay and you know like you could sit and talk but it can't be strategy or Traders stuff it has to be we used to call it chat so it would be you can have normal chitchat which was chitchat so we would just be talking about I don't know think we had days of talking about what was that zombie show not among us but the last of us Last of Us yeah so we I think that we're midseason at that stage and so we were talking about there you know oh man yeah stressful a man like no break and those guys I feel that season was way more stressful than ours just watching it the challenges sorry the missions yeah so bad we should talk about that yeah well let's get right into the last mission so we had a cheeky

17:24 Teaser from Dylan last week saying that this mission was is going to be you know just as gross and oh gross and just as hard as last season right and I feel like he was right you know we had so Bailey was tied up in a coffin and she had to you know untie herself and also find out what the code of padlock is to you know to get out then crawl through like this really disgusting sewage tunnel to like reach something at the end which oh yeah I could smell it from my from my TV same so awful and then where Jason which I feel like Jason probably had like the most chill one which is you much just have to climb up and down a cliff right like with the Rob it's like oh that seems like fun and then your Joe's one and oh Julia I was in pain watching Joe go through his challenge so horrific we're here to drink like I think was like five shots of hot sauce and then and then also eat like five different chilies as well oh my gosh like because I saw that there was like a bowl of chicken or something like oh okay surely you can you know put the chicken in the hot sauce or something like that yeah oh no he just went straight for it and

18:44 Oh I don't think I could do that one no I couldn't have done that one no yeah because like I'm all right with spice but you know like consistent like you know Time After Time After Time like that like no I would not be able to survive it through no way and then you had you Donna's one which I thought Donna's one was easy but then you know where she had to you know dissect the heart lung and intestines but the fact you had to put it back as well and like Stitch up the like the mouse I've got giant fingers I can't even you know use scissors properly you know so I don't think i' would be able to stitch up the mouse like that one really hard I think I don't yeah just the idea of look I can't even watch a scary movie we were watching oh it was a short film like in 80s New Zealand short film called kitchen sink yesterday I don't know if you've seen it but it's about 13 minutes long it's about a woman that finds a starts you know she's like emptying out her sink and then find you know finds like a stick or something hanging out of the sink starts pulling at it and then this whole baby comes

20:04 It's insane anyway there's like a bit where she's shaving a man's legs and accidentally slips and the razor cuts the guy's legs and I honestly nearly cried watching that I just couldn't even I'm just so bad with anything like that with like cups so yeah the M the mouse having to make an incision I think that would probably do me in yeah like normally with Gore I mean you know obviously I haven't you been around a lot of physical go before and stuff so I can't really speak on that behalf like movies and stuff there's only been one movie that's actually got to me sick and there actually a Peter Jackson's one of his original films where there was like a zombie virus spreading around and this guy used he used a lawn like a lawn it was brain dead yeah it was brain dead and he used the lawn to like kill all the zombies in the living room and I think it said like 18 tons of blood or was using that scene and I felt sick watching that like we're studying it for film school and oh I to go outside just talking about brain dead and bad taste this morning that's so crazy oh really oh my gosh just this morning yeah and then you had

21:24 Se's one which I would have probably struggled with this one as well very similar to Brooks where he to lie in a bed of bugs for 5 minutes and then once he's done he has to stick his head in like a box filled with crickets and wiers and stuff and he has to recite every single player in chronological order on you know murdered and banishment and stuff what's your thoughts on Seal's challenge I mean it all is so personally of what your fair is and would have found that incredibly uncomfortable getting into a bed with well God what the hell else was in there they just bugs maggots and yeah things bouncing around you I think crickets I would have been okay with the were their cockroaches in that little head thing I'm not too sure it looked like it I think it was just like crickets and stuff yeah I mean a awful as well I think I would have been okay with it though I'm all right with bugs I'm okay with bugs yeah so I think out of all of them honestly I probably would have done se's one first okay and then Bailey

22:45 MH then Donas yeah oh no wait I'll Jace first I forgot about Jace because that one seems to be the easiest and then Joe's last I reckon I reckon yeah I think I think I would have done Jason's won first thin Don thin doners thin Bailey's but I don't know how I would have done it at the start because obviously I'm a tall to big guy you know Bailey was lucky she could like twist her head around I don't think I'd even be able to do that I think my face would literally be like right up against the coffin roof but yeah probably ba one's the then seis then Joe's what no I'll go Joe's and seis because I feel like even though I've got a good memory just like you know having like crickets like on my face and being right in there I would easily forget the entire game and I'd just be for the whole 25 minutes freak out yeah I'd much rather you know die of spice on National Television Crick jump at my face oh it's so personal he so personal Andre what would you have done yes Andre comment

24:05 Below what would you have done man I'd love to hear it especially because he's such a challenge Beast Julia did you know that no he was commenting the other day that like on the hill challenge that it's just like running up and down Albert Park you've been to Albert Park right yeah in the cvd yeah here comes just the exact same as running up and down the of Albert Park oh well there you go I if he can do that he can pretty much do anything yeah what a beast what a beast well let's also talk about the other Mission you know because I actually really enjoyed this one it's I mean it's pretty much just two truths and a lie yeah except like you're in teams and like you have to guess you know two truth and a lie and I thought we could do a fun game jul oh gosh two truth and a lie because you know we obviously haven't you know met in person yet you know I feel like there's a lot of secrets to be shared and stuff so I'll let you go first what is two truths and a lie two truths and a lie gosh

25:26 I okay I've got I've got them okay sorry that was like I'm delaying that a lot I've been to Antarctica I nearly burnt down Church the night before s man Hillary's funeral and I would never bungee jump oh see I feel like the since you so specific you know like burning down a church just before s H's funeral I feel like they're so specific that it has to be a truth h Andre reckons as B the second one wait oh that's Antarctica I Reon the Liars who've never been to Antarctica

26:46 You win let's play really oh my gosh what oh my gosh wait how on Earth did you almost burn down the church before Federal polishing church pews with linseed oil Lin seed oil is flammable oh wow my gosh I mean fire engine and everything like full smoke and then I burnt a massive patch of grass like right outside yeah it was bad man yeah it was very lucky this is one of the hugest funerals in New Zealand history and I nearly destroyed the entire church so there you go oh my gosh yeah all right well I've got some for you are you ready I'm ready all right so the first one is I stopped a burglary at a supermarket by tripping over in front of the person trying to get away number two is I've had a total of eight jobs and number three is that I have been to South America God you on so much harder

28:09 I feel as though you have been to South America have I feel that maybe and that you have had eight jobs no have I don't know yeah eight jobs in South America and then the LIE is the tripping up and I hope that it's not because that's hilarious unfortunately the LIE is I've had eight jobs so it was really funny so I was coming back from break but I was on the phone with a friend because I used to never tie my shoelaces I just like stuffed them in my shoes right this how bad I was in my first job and someone was stealing I think it was like a what is it called but we had them at the chick house it was these large black things pretty much filled with cash and he took one and started running and I tripped over my shoelaces face planted on the ground and as I was getting up the guy then tripped over me the security was like right on

29:30 Him so they were able to you know get some of the money back because it you know all completely imploded everywhere oh my goodness yeah amazing too young for eight jobs I agree I'm only a spiffing 22 year old so but you know like I loved the truth or dear Mission and something that's so interesting is that you know they were split up into two teams and the winning team got to play for an advantage and the advantage was an extra vote and they kind of did like a shorter straw type moment where you know like you pull out the knife and whoever had the largest knife like wins and it was an extra vote what did you think of adding an advantage wild so good so good and it really set the scene for like building pressure of you know how we going to get close to Jason and you know you really need him on your side and stuff big pressure for SE big pressure for Bailey you know yeah just what I've really loved about the season is the twists you know especially for a view for it being so unexpected you know the missions were so unexpected as well and so crazy and really

30:50 There that it was so much harder than ours because they're sitting each other against each other emotionally that's definitely so clear the entire season cat amongst pigin type scenario so that's what I've really awfully enjoyed watching is just the made it made for wonderful watching for as a viewer you know just they so unexpected and that's what you love about Television right is you don't want to feel as though you it's predictable and you know what's going to happen and that's what they've delivered this season it was so un productable you know each round table you think it's going to go one way and then someone will come out and go yeah nah yeah exactly and something that's so cool I'm pretty sure this is the first ever Advantage ever added into the game of Traders because you know in the game of Survivor there's so many different advantages now and stuff like each Advantage is kind of like a new variant from the previous one and the extra vote has been around for quite a few years now but so interesting to add it into the game of Traders especially because while you know Andre says hereit Bailey got lucky rookie mistake by going to Jason first since he held all the power of course all the Traders

32:10 Are GNA be like oh like you know I want that power on my side right but I kind of feel like as a Trader maybe the optimal move is to try and go against that power what's your thoughts on that yeah I think Andre yeah he probably summarized it quite well there is that yeah you don't want to make it too obvious right that you're desperate yeah going the opposite far out maybe but then also I mean yes there was luck there but she got through yeah I mean luckily yeah I mean that was so that was so crazy you just what sometimes it's the you know overt is covert and then Co is over it's just so wild that's why we love this game right because you think it's going to go one way and it just doesn't so it's just crazy yeah and unfortunately for null he didn't get as lucky as Bailey and Julia he finally got banished you know like I think what is it since like the second round table or something people have been coming after him nonstop he's played the hardest he played the hardest game that

33:30 Series easily poor and he handled it like a champ he was so composed he kept all of the emotion out of it he just went yeah okay I understand why that looks suspicious or I understand your point there d he was so considerate and in a game like that to have such composure says a lot about no you know he's measured well so you know at first I kind of compared like Robbie and Mark together because I feel like they were like the two constant people always coping the shirt but when I look back on the season it was really null I feel like CED a lot more than Mark did probably because made it a lot further but yeah but I feel like with everything to do with like the three Graves especially and you know things slightly before then everything up after that people just haven't stopped begging on at no totally and it's a strategy to a point actually because we talked about this you know the you can play an ultra faithful game and that's risky because you may get murdered because they go hey well we need to get rid of them nobody's ever going to banish them or you can play a

34:50 Game where you are constantly on edge of going and yeah and no did you know he played that the entire way and it's exhausting it's exhausting but you know that at least you're gonna be left alone at night yeah exactly yeah it's really a that's a hard game so hats off to you no you played so incredibly well and I'm gutted that he didn't get all the way through would have been cool crazy outcome if you had taken it out oh what a story would have been right you know like cing probably ugly the most amount of heat in the game and you are somehow the winner yeah like that would have been phenomenal especially winning as a faithful as well I feel like EV would have been like oh okay you know he's a hero he's a hero but if he won as a traitor I thought the whole cast would have been like I knew it yeah you know I know someone who we haven't talked about at all unfortunately she got murdered at the start of the finale but cat poor cat you know the one who truly stood up to C Ali you know like really you know made him grind potentially even to his downfall as well what was your thoughts on cat oh cat was great

36:10 She was really great and I liked it that she great facials first of all you know just the eye n not I look there's something to be said about someone that can just call you out you know so she you know not quite right you know in terms of seali you know being slightly off you I don't think it was a traitor at that stage where she was kind of hanging thinking that's where the whole thing but really it doesn't matter you know she was she was on it she had she kind of went that was an odd interaction and especially if it and it definitely was s so when something said and they're fully gaslighting you to be like I didn't say that or you know and even you know SE Al probably didn't even remember saying that and that makes you even more wild it was the same thing with me you know hearing conversations early in the game with Robbie and then she was going no I didn't no I didn't I was like yes you did and then so that makes you more crazy because you're like you 100% said that and you're flat out denying it and then yeah so it makes you go why would they continuously gas light me like that

37:30 You know and then so it builds up your suspicion to be going well it surely it is them you know yeah so that was that was crazy but really smart move too I think to do to murder cat because you can play the and we talked about this I think last week you know maybe they will get rid of cat and then do the it's so obvious you know why would I do that you know the double play of it's obvious it's obvious you know yeah so I'm pleased that they did that was that was a smart move yeah well I mean I guess I guess I twist sighted that it was cat's words about you know the whole blackmail conversation and obviously she got proven to be innocent that really did flip Jason off of Cale so do you reckon that potentially Ultimate Reality if Sally had kept cat around do you reckon Sally still gets taken out of the final five like let's say you know because no was the first one banished so let's say they swap null with cat right do Reon makes it through

38:51 V wasn't it was only one vote eh well no there was two votes so you had the final six vote when no got banished and then you had the final five where s got banished yeah but wasn't it between Bailey or down to that one vote yeah and I guess that's what Jay was basing at off a yeah when he bought out that piece of paper yeah it could have been yeah so and with her getting taken out but even if she was still there it would have been worse it would have been worse for C because then cat would have been there I who else were they thinking of murdering no or I think it was Joe yeah no I think they needed to get rid of her because Still she was going to hit seali again and then yeah you know then it was even more in the favor that se was going to get taken out so if we think about it that way yeah well let's move on to the next play that was banished poor SE I mean Julia last week I mean I was even on the phone with v earlier like I think it was just a couple days ago

40:11 Actually and she hadn't seen the finale and she and she was saying s can't get this wrong like you know the numbers are there he's got Jason he's got Joe there's immediately half of the people left and like you know if he makes it through one banishment he's guaranteed final three where did it go wrong Jo I think yeah Joe and then you know what's even Wilder you know that Bailey threw out that Donna vote it's kind of similar to me throwing out an Anna vote you know and Anna just was like you know because they're good friends and then I thought oh gosh it's going to be the same scenario now Donal be like why are you suddenly voting for me that seems really unusual surely you're a traitor but she managed to weasel out of it and I was so surprised but she positioned herself well she said I just didn't think that it was null and I was panicked or you know d da D she talked her way out of it so well and she just had the Rapport there with Donna so she just had the numbers and then just Joe's speed wobbles towards the end I think that's what did alien unfortunately yeah cuz we do see like Joe

41:32 He's throwing out you know all kinds of names at one point he thinks of se but like oh no it can't be SE so therefore it must be Jason and something that I did love is that Joe sets up a trap right where he's talking about like oh you know if you're if you're a traitor like you're trying to convince yourself it's just a game it's just a game you're not really feeling the emotions and he's eyeing out everyone who's like either like trying to like avoid the conversation or not really participating in it and he clocks Bailey he clocked Bailey really well I thought that was such an awesome trap and then he also gets Jason which I was like oh I don't think Jason was doing anything that bad but when Jason was going on saying I need you to trust me didn't share the plan I kind of felt like there was King it was very similar to what king said last year as well where I think was in the episode where he got banished he like told Brooke oh I just want you to know that I'm going to be voting for at this banishment and then was just waiting to see everyone else's reactions to that then told Brooke later on oh yeah I'm not actually coming after you like it was just bit like you know random out there that just drew more attention on yourself yeah well it's the chaos right it's like weird moves what are you doing you can't do anything weird because then everybody thinks that you're weird yeah

42:52 So yeah I mean look I was so GED for SE I mean and but man you could see he was really struggling playing a traitor on that last day you know like the conversations that he was having with jaay the conversations he was having with Joe you know that oh my gosh how amazing was that speech that Jace gave at the round table he just held the room and was so accurate and on the money you know just looking at Bailey looking at C just told it exactly how it was it was incredible and I was going oh man are these guys going to crack and for a moment there I just went is SE just gonna say yeah I'm a traitor break it you know that was so you could just say it was eating him up inside so hard man so hard and the bit that really got me is when Joe was saying you know like on God on family on Utah like you could tell SE like he really didn't want to you know like say that but he had to get Joe on the side right and I feel like that must be so horrible like especially for Bailey

44:12 At the end we saw as well where even she was you know crying because she felt like she kind of you know like backstabbed Donna in a way on reaching the end with her as a traitor I can't imagine what it would have been like for Sally if he reached the end with Joe and announc he was the traitor oh deating it'sa yeah it is and people can say oh about the Traders winning or being bit stink about things but it is a g you have to keep playing you can't you can't stop and I know that Brook especially towards the end he was having a really hard time you know not wanting to play anymore because but you have to you have to keep playing you know cuz because you feel so awful that you're hurting you feel like it's fun at first and then it's when it's actually down to the last moment and everybody deserves to win you know and you're just screwing with people it's awful but so great to watch yeah how would you have reacted cuz I know you and Colin were really close how like

45:32 Were you ever thinking of taking him to the very end to the final two and if so how would you have reacted to finding out that he was a traitor well I knew that Colin was a traitor so I just made a decision I think was probably like an Integrity move from my part because Colin had saved me multiple times from banishment you know down to his boat until he was turned you know and we were still very good friends and I and I yeah I just couldn't do it I just went okay I'm just going to play it this way I'll go Brook and then I'll go Colin you know and then we'll say it that way and I was hopeful potentially that maybe Sam at that round table might go Brook I wasn't really too sure yeah I just I just couldn't do it was it's awful you know it's probably just how Donna felt like I can't I can't vote for you know it's because you've got your friend there yeah do you think Jason made the right move taking out seali instead of Bailey with that vote

46:58 Because I think it was probably what he had at the time so he probably had you know if you're getting the Vibes of the of the room of where votes are going to go you know and you kind of have to go with the vibe of are we going to have numbers on this particular vote is it going to go yeah you know you have to know that you've got the numbers in order to do it otherwise it's wasteful you know yeah because I think he ends up in the same spot regardless because I think he goes with Joe and C they take him out at the final three anyways so I do think his best bet was to go with Bailey and Donna and just hope that Donal will flip on Bailey but I feel like he's just yeah I mean even Andre says it right here it's 5050 toss up Bailey Donal Sally and Joe I don't think there's much else Jason could have really done to try and get and get Bailey out at the end oh sorry I kind of like dropped out there that was weird oh yeah to be honest oh we right

48:18 I think we're good yeah oh I think the Wi-Fi is slightly dropping right I okay anyway continue I know but I mean pretty much I think I think we both agree that you know either way Jason was like there's not much else he really could have done he was always becoming third in that spot and unfortunately that does actually you know bring us to the end of the podcast unfortunately and just before we do get to the smartest move of the week there is something I would love to share Julia I think it was like a week ago two weeks ago been ad for your company started spreading it like started spreading around you know all over insta I was seeing it everywhere is it all right for us to play this ad go for it go for it amazing I would be Ed delighted oh my gosh right for right hopefully the audio will play

50:07 Hey F Insurance tell us more about your insurance Julia well it's a company I've been running for jingos eight years I have grown it from the very beginning bootstrap the entire thing on my own and it's just grown from strength to strength so it's a yeah it's a life and health insurance brokerage huge client base now which is crackers and all really amazing people too so the way that I've builted it I guess is that it's always best to always just be yourself I guess and it you being authentically yourself even though that feel as though authentic is such a over kill word these days but it doesn't it attracts like minded people right so then you end up working with Co people and so I'm very lucky and in the sense that or all the clients that I work with now that unfortunately do at times get have awful things happen to them or they get sick or a loved one will pass away but I feel very privileged that I get to work with them and help them through the best and the worst times of their lives but yeah and I did that add actually with friends of mine

51:28 Jingo back in April we shot that and it's cool to be able to be in your own ad yeah and I did that with my daughter my son was supposed to be there but he was sick that day so he couldn't he couldn't be in it I think he had an air infection or something like that all the Glorious things yes yeah but they did a beautiful job that was we are 2113 and that's Jack and Miriam and K and Raman they do yeah they're creating beautiful stuff at the moment and actually I think shout out to those guys they've just been selected on the list to Pro you know as you know an advertising production company that can get contracts through public agencies now so government agency so the ministry of such and such wants to create an ed they can go through those guys which is so cool yours doing cool sh absolutely yeah really you know great job on that ad like when I saw the ad I was like oh this is so cute you know fantastic job Julia amazing job and where can people find out more about your insurance company is it like a website a way to yeah through Linkedin or just through my website it's just dubdub d.v

52:48 Var. co.nz yeah and I'm kind of keeping my Instagram stuff to more acting stuff now so and then just normal work day-to-day business is LinkedIn and my website so trucks along it's always busy it never stops it's always busy when I don't want it to be busy which is ironic yeah you know like last week tried to no two weeks ago trying to have four days off on holiday and towerer and it ended up being the busiest four days ever oh really like damn it should have put on you know leave me alone email but I couldn't where about in Tonga were you trying to go on holiday yes well was in between the mount and yeah I just seeing family friends and yeah was just trying to relax for a few days but nice yeah it was lovely because I'm from papar that's where I was born and raised and whenever I find out people like live in that area I'm like oh my gosh tell me where tell me where you know cuz yeah I actually had a customer like a couple weeks ago mcpack who lived six houses away from mine and

54:08 Papaa going to the same schools and everything but we're just like one year separate weird how crazy is that right so niut it's just new it's New Zealand it's New Zealand yeah exactly you know everyone knows each other we're all you know like related in some kind of way you know like weird that's why you have to date Shin BTY because you be related to her exactly that is the one reason why I want to date her is because when not Rel just in case just in case just in case but you know if anyone was wondering yes if you look at the photos right behind my head I did have the lovely opportunity to meet shinb or aana she even signed my hat right here you know I've got a shirt that says I love my girlfriend and that's a photo of shin on it and she signed it saying I love you too so you know who knows what happen right if you thought the ship between e and Iowa strong you know just wait till Shin bad rocks up on the podcast she will she will man she not she 100% will she will yeah she'll randomly come on she's probably

55:28 Watching it right now who knows being like you know get me on the podcast get me on the podcast so I can wear my pajamas in bed and talk to rcky exactly well one other thing I do just want to give a quick shout out to is that you know unfortunately I'm a really busy guy so one of my absolute you know besties her name is Mia has been helping me make these thumbnails for all the all the Traders podcast if you've been loving all the different thumbnails for the podcast and you're like damn I wish I had you know someone to help me make thumbnails or posters or any kind of artwork in general especially logos she's phenomenal at logos click an email to orus gmail.com or I pretty sure spell like a e S.M gmail.com if you are confused just flick me a message on Instagram which is mcky hope.

56:27 M and I can help you stand in the right direction she's been absolutely phenomenal with all these thumbnails and doing a great job so make sure you reach out to her for any sort of poster or thumbnail work or anything like that and Julia it's now time for my favorite segment oh God you know I look forward to this you know every single week and normally we've had V to spice things up you know we've had we've had Dylan to spice things up you know but for the first time it's just us two Julia you know the two Pioneers normally I feel like we're at separate ends of the smartest move of the week but now we have to come together we have to work together to decide what will be the smartest move of the finale and you know I'm going to leave you a choice you can either do the singing or you can do the beat I want to do the beat please you want to do the all right well far away okay unfortunately that's not actually making any sound it's just your camera go

57:47 Okay you couldn't even hear it James is losing his when he laughs sometimes he becomes close to de he's going red in the face be me I'm so sorry Joey but once again we can't actually hear anything yeah you're GNA have to be really loud Julia really loud can you hear that kind of kind of yeah sming like a little bit he it's so loud I don't know why maybe I'm good oh yeah there we go now I can hear it now I can hear it they were both just as loud it's the smartest move of the week smartest move of the week marcky and Julie have come together for the smartest move of the week welcome everyone to the last smartest move of the week hey on jeers creepers oh my gosh well I'll start off with you Julia in your opinion what do you think was the smartest move of the week look I

59:07 Mean Jace's moment of Glory like I he just didn't he just oh gosh James I just Jay was the smartest player look and those last two episodes hands down you know smart as faithful absolutely Jay play an phenomenal game as a faithful he really did yeah under the radar methodical strategic taking notes was it he did he lock the door who locked the door yeah it was Jason he locked the door see yeah what's going yeah absolute Mastermind well my one is actually Joe like and I'll tell you why I and Joe's move of you know you know on Ono and on Utah right because Utah is Faro I feel like they really tripped up SE Al especially at the very end I feel like when he was very hesitant to be like yeah on God on family on Utah I reckon that maybe even sent signals to Jason being like hang on why is he so hesitant to say those words you get what I mean and I think if it wasn't for Joe

1:00:28 Doing that maybe Jason would have stuck with them because they are the tip you know Pacific Ring of Fire and that obviously allowed Bailey to have you know more agency to actually reach the very end right so I guess now it's time to vote and Andre and to you know anyone else who's watching feel free to comment live right now what you think is the smartest move of the week as well but Julia we got to cast our votes what do you reckon was the smartest move of the week I guess I could roll over to you Macky because that technically puts us to why Jace ends up being such a gangster faithful you know with help of Joe yeah the help of Joe you're actually G to roll over for the okay I'll roll over for the first time for the first time well there was there was one other time but then you immediately flipped on me to join eile yeah did I you out of the bus and I enjoyed it I was very heartbroken well

1:01:48 Should we lock that in on family on God on Utah all right well you heard it late ladies and gents and everyone Julia has finally sided with mcky on the smartest move of the week the smartest move of the finale is Joe being on God on Faro on Utah and that Tri Sly up to give to give Bailey the win and Julia I would normally ask what do you think was the smartest move of the season but I feel like we got to you know leave people on edge a bit because we're going to be coming back pretty soon with a few friends you know with Sam you know and a few other fan favorites to talk about what is the future of Traders you know like where is there perfect strategy and where could this game go but until then everyone make sure you Subs make sure you subscribe right now smash that like button smash that subscribe button thank you all so much for watching this amazing podcast and also to you Julia as well when I found out I was going to be doing Traders new season 2 one of my first thoughts was I got to get Julia on and you were one of the first people I reach out to you and I'm so thankful that not only did you come on to do the podcast but you a permanent co-host all the way through thank you so much a you're welcome he man anyone that'll

1:03:08 Accept me in my pajamas at eight n o'clock at night on a Wednesday I'm in yeah no absolute Legend and un unfortunately V canot be here she's actually away on holiday and heish was originally going to be here as well but internet has been crapping out recently so unfortunately they're not here but they will be back hopefully to talk about what is the future of Traders looking like but until then everyone cck unw and we'll catch you next time bye