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Traitors NZ: Week 1 Recap

Podcast episode · 10 Aug 2023 · 1 hr 23 min

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0:00 Foreign [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] all right [Music] [Music] welcome back everyone to the north partake here on YouTube where we've got the TNT tapes for you except more like the T M take that's right Mucky is taking over as your host for tonight and I've got a very special guest with me today so a lot of the listeners here obviously know me from Australian Survivor where I have very wild and outrageous takes

1:20 And a lot of people wonder where do these takes come from why is he so confident in all these dumb ideas and decisions well this lovely man taught me how to act way back in 2017. he has been there to support me at every wrong decision I make but make me feel good about it he has seen all the mistakes I make it's in all the right things I make which is pretty rare but ladies and Gentlemen please welcome one of my best friends Hamish how are you bro I'm doing good I and on the note that you were just saying about how I you know I've kind of helped you bring out this chaotic side of you I would just like to apologize for the monster I've created but otherwise yes I'm doing very good the Traders has been cool and so I'm very excited to chat about that today yeah no it's been a great show you know quite often I love reality shows would come to New Zealand I believe we've had our own Survivor We adapted it to no it's not a million dollar Island it's something else it's like the Liberty Island yeah Treasure Island there we go Treasure Island but quite often our router shows don't do that well when it comes to like ratings and you know audience interactions and often it's edits are pretty bad but I really like this I thought it was actually you

2:40 Know absolutely wonderful but before we continue let's say hello to Quick a few audience members we have at the moment Mad Dog Andre Paul Henry came back to our New Zealand TV screens with a big bang for context here's one of our National Treasures yes he is Hamish what's your thoughts on Paul Henry my thoughts on Paul Henry I didn't really know what to expect like before watching him but now having seen him in the first two episodes I'm like yeah there was no one else that could have done this like it probably would have ended up how you described a lot of other New Zealand reality TV but you know now that they've chosen this guy I think like he is going to be such a big part of this show being what it is basically yes now I think poor Henry is a great host he's someone who's quite controversial in New Zealand some people love them other people just absolutely hate them but I think he really perfectly suited the host for the show I feel like so many moments in these first two episodes where he would have like a one-liner or a cheeky comment and it'll just crack me up you know I was on the floor bowling the way here is the way he addresses people like when he's like okay my cocktails I'm like yeah

4:00 And it's like that's right check of these were up yeah and just before we continue thank you very much Andre for the donation of five dollars you know every donation helps it goes straight towards the channel so thank you so much brother for helping support our Channel it really means a lot to all of us but also the Mad Dog himself Jonathan gray welcome to the live this was easily the best first two episodes compared to other three I've seen now I'll be perfectly honest I have seen the start of the Australian traitors I haven't fully finished it I've I know what happens in the American one I know who wins the UK one I've heard a lot of really good things about it but I just haven't had time to really go check those out how about you hey merch is this your first screening of Traders yeah so before you'd mentioned traders to me relatively recently that I didn't even realize it was a thing and obviously it's like been pretty easy to grasp the concert because it's basically just Mafia the card game but like yeah really you know realistic I suppose like they're living in the you know the world of it which is cool the internet is ridiculous really cool you know so quite similar to million dollar Island which Jonathan unit you're there with us the entire

5:20 Time you know we're going in this almost completely blind we're not sure what the end game is like but definitely as a show goes on you know I'm sure Hamish you're pretty excited to see what twists and how it all sort of unfolds say I am and speaking of twist should we mention the first Twist of the game yes we shall we shall so start off you know 19 contestants right and just before we enter the twist let's talk about the cast right so majority of the cast is people who've seen on New Zealand TV before we've got a few News broadcasters got a few people on the radios you know we've got people dancing with the stars but we do have one person completely new it is a first TV screening and it is our mama four kids Robbie what's your first Robbie she has very like outspoken Vibes like she's the kind of person that would just that I feel like you'd get along with at the barbecue and that she's the kind of person that just wants to like speak her mind and like you know yeah she's the kind of person you would either like a lot or be kind of like that's not my own cup of tea you know she has very like polarizing but not on a bad moment

6:40 Yeah no absolutely I love Robbie first two episodes I feel like she was the Underdog really or the entire cast you know she doesn't have a celebrity status you know she doesn't really know everyone and she copped a lot of heat you know at the start as well yeah people were very suspicious of hers I'm really glad that she made it all the way through but also something that Jonathan mutants here as well I think the smaller cast helps it out it definitely does you know problem with million dollar Island you know with 100 people we didn't really get to know everyone right so some people would quit some people would get eliminated and you kind of like who like you know who are these people but you know with these 19 contestants I really feel like we got to know almost everyone like we definitely did see everyone but I feel like we know almost everyone yeah they're like one or two contestants that I kind of want to see more of and I guess they maybe they just haven't got as much screen time because they're not as like Lively or like in the action of some of the others but in general yeah I think you like everyone's got a good fuel lines in the Union yeah absolutely but let's get back to the start you know all the all 19 contestants and there's you know brand new you know flashes cars going into the middle of the countryside I come

8:00 Into really loved I think it was from Robbie which was you know if you ever wanted to break away and Escape you come in the middle of nowhere you know you can't quite escape the Traders Lodge unfortunately you either get killed or we make it to the end but something I really loved which only this happens in New Zealand's shows which is when they got out of the cars you can see a lot of all of the contestants are holding like a cup of coffee that they probably bought at the cafe away yeah like when they come out of the car like I think it was Mike he had like a full-on like large like it seemed like potentially a flat white drink you know and they're just casually walking around but they just stop yeah nothing beats chicken flat white and your pies your Saucy rolls but we get introduced to this twist where Paul Henry comes out and he wants everyone to line up you know he wants people at one end on the left-hand side for the people who feel that they're going to succeed in the game the people who think that they're going to do really well make it quite far to stand on the left-hand side but if you think you're going to be you know like

9:20 If your aunt's going to make it that far you need to stand on the right hand side but the best part about it for me though how much I'm not sure what your thoughts were was this commentary throughout while they were trying to while they're trying to organize the line like they'll talk like oh I don't know if I'm confident I don't know if I'm not and they're just being that they're like this is fascinating absolutely file guys yeah that was so good too what did I say about a single file it's one Loki wrote it's yeah that's great that's great but we did have Colin who's gonna be one of our major stars in the first week he goes right to the front he wants to be you know like you can tell he wants to be the main star of the show he's there to succeed and to win no matter the cost what's your thoughts on Colin I think that you can tell you can tell that he is like a big player like he's wanting to play it like you can see from his social game which I suppose you'll get into as we kind of continue to talk about the episodes but his social game is very on point and I don't just I don't think it's just because it comes naturally like I think that he's definitely playing the game you know I have some like critiques as well about

10:40 Like some of his perceptions and stuff but I guess we'll get to that in due time yeah and we get introduced to a very important relationship this week we get introduced to Brooke and Dan you know they're sort of mentioned in the line that they actually know each other you know from playing poker together which both of them in my mind were almost the Stars on this first week what's your what's your thoughts on there I personally like Dan as a player a lot not just because like some of the things he said in his kind of decisions or like the way he describes like how he makes his decisions not just like that like I resonate with that but I just think that like in general like he's he seems like the kind of person that I would like in person and so yeah I only like I think that I'm team I'm teamed down at the moment yeah it's definitely sort of got this game wrapped around his fingers you know you could almost grow a darling mustache you know everything like slowly twirling it you know being kind of evil yeah I think like he's definitely he's already got some heat and I think there are clearly some very perceptive players that can see that he could be a little slide but that's also his kind of demeanor I think in general he's got that kind of sly demeanor

12:01 Yeah but I think that considering he's already got a tiny bit of heat on him I think he's playing it very well I think he has a very strategic fight for sure yeah definitely but we can't talk about this opening twist without one of the greatest moves I've ever seen on reality TV yeah the Pro Gamer move as I like to call it where Paul Henry says that you know if you don't think you can handle the heat to my kitchen then up on the hill you know just behind them is a sort of plate almost or kind of like a plaque that's got ten thousand dollars worth of silver bars on it and if a player wants to leave day one because they don't think they can handle the heat or take it then they can quickly go and grab 10K initially it starts with the line that feels like the least confident that they'll make it far and none of them go so when I say they want to play but then he turns to the line of people who think they're going to succeed you know the linebear you know the people who want to play they want to play hard and we see a few different you know reaction socks up sucks we see a few different reaction looks

13:21 And then out of nowhere Mad Dog Sam Fury he's like yo I'm out dude he's the most strategic one in the game he is he is you know he gets it all the way out I mean I get his reasoning right like you've got 19 people and let's say you're one of the faithful like unless you get seduced into being one of the Traders which we'll get to soon enough like you could be the person to get killed every night like each night somebody is dying right yeah and if you don't die you could still be incorrectly voted out so generally like two people are living the thing every day or like every night I suppose yeah so when you're one in 19 and people are dropping like flies like you know your odds aren't very high you know maybe you've got confidence in yourself but I guess the bro was just like hey like ten thousand bucks bro like down payment on a house yeah his is you know he's 27 he said he's still on the minimum wage which that's something we could get into you know the minimum wage here in New Zealand for those that don't know that increases almost every three to four months right by an extra 50 cents or by a dollar it actually does yeah and you know I've worked around and

14:42 You know a few different jobs and always start on the minimum wage which when I first started working back in 2019 it was only 18 an hour now I think it's at 24. I remember getting paid 16 an hour that's nuts but yeah you know but Mad Dog Sam you know he's jumped to the curve of the minimum wage and he you know pocketed an extra 10K and then he's out you know he tapped and get Traders New Zealand yeah straight up yeah and I loved the comments from I think it was the other Sam and Mike but they're like you know that is the greatest the smartest move someone can make in this game and Mike even brought up he took like a tenth or a seventh of the prize money and lift just by showing up on day one which yeah bro was like smarter not harder you know yeah exactly before we continue I said there's a lot of comments let's quickly go back to them what's this he was running away from dance kitty cat as poke player out of his side and check it out then yeah

16:02 Absolutely do you know why like run together the 10K when you know you sign up to play a reality show and it's like you're there for it but then you leave on day one you know it's it seems a little strange like I feel like it's so hard to be like passed on a reality show because there'll be so many people trying to get in and so it's kind of weird that like you would put in that effort and like try to get in and then you're just like nah I'm out yeah and something else Andre says here he's picked up on Dan Hamish where Daniel to tell the area below his eye twitches oh okay I'm gonna watch out for that next time we see it yeah me too me too yeah it is pretty interesting how when everyone lies we all have some sort of giveaway or something that we do that shows we're lying you know I think only very few people can actually Master light without giving any takes away in terms of personality changes physical changes yeah it's like hard to smile sometimes in your life yeah also Andre here very happy the production with the cube banter human Shone through yeah I mean that's what's so great about New Zealand shows is like the banter and the human we have

17:22 I feel like often without sort of like our contestants are human stuff it's very banter based so I love that not only other contestants bantering with each other but so is Paul Henry you know there's a moment which this made me almost fall to the floor laughing where it's during one of the missions and they have to find the silver coin and someone's like chick behind the painting and he's like do you really think if I lost a silver coin it'll be behind the painting it's like well it's pretty weird it was under a pool table and said yes that is unusual I grant you oh yeah it was yeah inside the lodge there is a painting of Paul Henry in like you know chain mail he's holding a sword yeah let's see what Jonathan gray has to say here I take a guarantee seventh yeah that's definitely true I feel like it depends what type of show it is though you know I feel like if it's a show where you know that like for example like million dollar island or potentially even Survivor

18:42 Where you know it is going to get really hard you know the starvation you know the climate as well can be like very brutal on you then yeah absolutely that's a good move but I feel like in a like for me personally speaking with a show like this where you're in a house and almost every third shot is someone drinking like a cocktail or a wine you know they're definitely they're very well plinished there I thought why not just stay and just play the game I agree that like I also would play the game but I respect it though I'm like yeah definitely like he probably wasn't gonna win and bro's like he's out 10 000 bucks more than like Kimberly pretty much we're definitely talking about in just a second let's see oh fat dad slim bad dog Kahuna thank you so much for coming Mucky I have the episodes are watching keep up to date so I can Mock You from the chat but tonight I'm gonna be completely spoiled so far you are killing it so this is going to secret identity nah brother I know when you're near me from 100 mile radius in every direction all right I just feel this energy is like oh I think Kahuna's nearby so don't you worry brother I got

20:02 You I got you I have the same energy from you Michael and a monkey in it terrifies me [Laughter] what can I say thing and I'm like decline [Laughter] is it anyways let's move along shall we so we're going into the lodge and you know there is a lot of a lot of chatter between the contestants a lot of them seem to know each other we sort of had a bit of a broadcaster's three sort of at the start with Mike Robin I think Matt was in there as well not sure and sort of small alliances we're making but the bit that really got me Hamish was Kimberly the sidekick she tells us that she doesn't want to you know expose too much information because that could seems like a threat to other players which cuts to her straight away telling people that she's a side to cook and she'll probably end up you know like finding out who's a Traders what's your what's your thoughts on Kimberly so I understood it differently in the beginning I the way that I thought she was meeting him was like do you tell people she's a psychic but not tell people what they're like what she wants getting but like so she had

21:22 This Huntsville this you know psychic sense that somebody was one of the Traders or you know whatever that she wouldn't say that she'd be like Oh I'm psychic but not actually show anyone anything yeah I think that's what she meant but I'm pretty sure she ended up being like Oh yeah I have 100 to this person yeah something that I found to be quite funny was they hadn't even organized the roles here Bill the contestants were talking about who the Traders would be as so you had Robbie's name get thrown around and Dylan's name gets thrown around as the sort of main two people on who could be the Traders and this was before they've even had the selection so I would get it if they were expecting Paul to pick who the Traders would be based on I guess their personalities who he thought would make a good Trader and stop looking thinking like oh like I reckon Paul will pick this one I guess that conversation is kind of justifiable then and I mean they didn't edit you know us being able to see them say that if that's what they said yeah it does seem a little weird it's like oh you don't even know yeah and but one thing I did really love was as we were going into the throne room or you know the room where they vote who they think the

22:43 Treasure is they have different sort of moments with each of the contestants with Paul Henry and he asked them yeah pretty much long story short do you want to be a traitor or a faithful and we see many different sort of reactions to this where on the one hand you've got people who think that they won't lie and that there won't be that good when it comes to deceiving people and then you have another group of people who's like yeah I want to be a Trader I want to spice up the game and be really strategic what's your what's your thoughts on the whole difference between I think that it was a cool thing that they got because obviously like he can kind of observe them and be like oh this person has seen his work but yeah you're not going to know what somebody's you know thinking to tell you yeah and it's cool that he could see that like for example Phillies is just like oh you know my mom wouldn't like it me too and he's like irony almost [Laughter] but you could see that he wouldn't bully have been in it like he might not have played it so well yeah just not the kind of person that he is and that's fine so I know I think it was cool and I think that the only downside of that is there were people who probably expected like yeah I'm gonna be a Trader

24:03 And then they didn't get it yeah I think Colin was probably one of them yeah definitely like you could tell even in this interview and the way he was sort of walking to the room he thought he was definitely a Trader wanted to be a Trader oh absolutely like do not know who I am hey man you know you know I love to cause cows you know I like to muck things up you know so yeah how about you I think that because the way the way he asked the question was like you know what it like which of the trading faithful what's closest to your personality and so the strict board answer to that I think would have been faithful but then I probably like the way I see it is the only way that you can get promoted well like you know kicked off of the show as a Trader as if you get voted out yeah and if you're a faithful you could get voted out or you could also just get murdered on the first night and then you feel like you're almost safer to be a Trader so long as you can play it well and I think I could probably play it well so I would pick a Trader just because there are less opportunities for you to well in theory there are less opportunities for you to get kicked off of the show yeah definitely well one thing a woman said you do have a great a great Poker Face just like how you're telling me the story of

25:23 How you dropped a rock on your foot you go you guys into the hospital you told me that was such a straight face and I just could not help but burst out laughing despite you being in it's been so much fun like you believed me when I told you I didn't think you were funny but we get into the room and you know Paul Henry he's going to choose three traitors and he ultimately chooses Dan the poker player he chooses Lauren who's on Dancing With the Stars and he chooses radio broadcaster Matt what's your what's your thoughts on this combo of Traders bro so like on paper that is so golden right it's like you've got like the sweet innocent one no one suspects you've got like the funny radio presenter who's you know a little bit Goofy and he's clearly playing it up because he wants to seem down at any actually he's probably actually quite intelligent but you know he plays at the old dumb card and it works like it flipping it works well and then you've got Dan who is like kind of more what you'd expect the trailer to be like but I think

26:43 He is very cunning and so that even though it might be more predictable as a Trader He's Able still to sway people away and play the game that people don't suspect them anymore he did a really good move at the at the first like banishing Council which we'll get to so that's the little yeah you know teaser watch if it is for the end date no but yeah I agree with you I feel like this out of all the combos they could have maybe chosen this was the perfect combination you had you had Matt who's extremely social yeah Dan who's very strategic and I feel like Lauren I feel like she did kind of get a bit lost in the edit at times I feel like overall I think she seems like someone with a lot of potential and that's the thing a lot of potential I think that she probably did some things well man I feel like she didn't play I feel like you know what ended up happening is definitely because of a few misplays and things that she said and how she said it and it's just like bro why you give yourself away like yeah but as soon as the trans is selected everyone's

28:03 Able to go out and about and socialize for a bit everyone's sussing each other out and once again everyone's piling on Mad Dog Dylan thinking oh he's obviously the trader he's obviously the trader you know what is it about Dylan that just makes him look so suspicious in your opinion I think that he I think that he is so on to it and you know he's trying to be perceptive and he's trying to he has that kind of like you know the stalking cat like you know he has that demand at least while he's playing the game like he's very like intentionally deceptive if you get what I mean and I think that kind of energy like people see that and they think of it as this kind of cunning Sly and like that so while he's trying so hard to find out who the Traders are he kind of inadvertently ends up looking like a Trader himself yeah not the opposite spot on but someone who also get a lot of suspicious talk of is Matt you know Matt you know he's trying to he's trying to play dumb he's trying to be extra social at one point he forgets like what show they're even on when it's obviously yeah but

29:23 But we really see Brooke gives her a lot of work here where Brooke is he able to point out the sort of big change in Matt and how he's playing a bit dumb but also but later on he also like really pushes hard on Lauren and is able to put a lot of a lot of pressure on her what do you what did you think of Brooke in this episode I think that Brooke is clearly very small I think that he's probably I almost feel like he's I don't think he's in a bad spot right now but I feel like he seems like the kind of planet couldn't play too high he could play that scares the trade is too much but like I think he'll come up with this great plan of oh I'm pretty sure this is the trailer I'm gonna try to help them I feel like he's not gonna do that very well when he's not gonna strategize that very well but I think he's clearly like got the right idea you know what I mean yeah as far as him being on too long goes I mean well I don't know what to say like she outed herself so many times like when Owen asked her I and I think he was joking but he also figured she was a traitor but he was just like so who are you going to murder tonight and she's like oh you know yeah

30:44 I wouldn't have the heart to do that and I'm just like just tell him you're like that yeah pretty much pretty much she should have just been like yeah [Laughter] no but eventually all the Traders have been given a challenge where they have 45 minutes to sync the number seven ball like in a game of pool and I believe they can only do it once so they can only sync at once so the max they could went up to is three grand you know one grand being per Bull and we see Lauren really just start straight out of the gate you know she really throws herself out there she tells us that she doesn't normally play a lot of games at the bar or at the pub and there was so much foreshadowing here where people are talking about slip ups and giving so much stuff away and they just want to talk about that they'll just come to her like absolute butchering a shot at a pool interesting I didn't pick up so like because I don't think at the time that she was giving anything away and while she was playing pool but I see what you're saying like the edit was kind of to hence the fact that she would give a look interesting yeah but we see you know

32:04 Lauren you know she's trying to think the seven ball and I think Dan calls it like the worst double games and history of playing pool and because no one's just thinking anything yeah and then you know Matt he just okay she gets invited to come along and he Aces it he thinks the seven ball which then shortly after Lauren she sings her number seven Ball but Dan he comes in he says you know I've played quite a bit of pull of my time you know he's a little bit cocky about it he's the only one who does not think the seven ball yeah I remember thinking about the same thing I was like I had a full blame like if you know I don't know that kind of guy that would be good at Paul and poking everything you know so yeah I would say the key strategy for pool is the long game we wait for the other person to stuff up at the end and that's how you win but unfortunately don't have 45 minutes so the long game was not enough not an option but it did not work in that instance yeah but something I did love was Matt was playing for the other strut not the other stressful but like you know hole in Stripes he was playing for the other suit but he sings the seven ball builds the wrong turn they're like oh man he's like oh is yeah oh

33:24 My gosh he was obviously really playing on the way like not like as onto it kind of hard that he's been doing and so I think he would be the best to give you the most believable you know yeah and once again we get given another scene where Kimberly says that she will reveal the sidekick abilities at like you know Devon in place but she's already got four locked suspicions yeah I don't know how I felt about feel about her as a player I think that she because of the fact that she's a psychic and the trade is pulled in well like she's very easily influence him again because it's like you know when you believe in it like there are people there that clearly listening to it and so she could just throw on any you know she could even not happen psychic and just hold people there so that they would you know listen to her you know that yeah but one of the people we do see her you know called out is Robbie has been one of the Traders what does she think about their little rivalry they had going on oh man Robbie she's had a

34:45 Hot on that game because I feel like she's just because of like a character I suppose you know they would have been like I feel like she's a little bit like the odd one up and it's crazy particularly such an outspoken person and you can see she's the kind of thing this is what's on her mind without maybe thinking it through so that you know sometimes that would be good for her because I'm not because I guess people gravitate toward that social butterfly nature but you know it could be yeah I think that it's just not been an easy game for her and so she's done well to stay and started yeah no absolutely Robbie I feel I shared a very tough first couple of episodes but by the end she was able to come on top thankfully but before she comes out on top we get given another challenge where Paul Henry just casually loses four silver coins in his lodge which is very you know as you do on a Wednesday morning just lose a few you know so silver coins are on the plates and they have seven minutes to try and find all these silver coins so bring it back to him

36:05 What do you think of this mission I feel like so much of the show and I'm not dogging on it like I find it hilarious but I find that so much of the show and like in particular like his prisons in the show it's just him flexing that he has money he's like I'm still on my boss pretty much pretty much and I think that actually was a cool little challenge in like sequence because you got to see some people like talk on their like you know their side interviews the confession was about their thoughts and how it should have gone like I forgot which one said it actually but it was the it was one of the radio presenters I think and he was saying like oh I wish that you know there was some more leadership somebody stood forward and said you guys go to that room you guys go to that other than scrambling and so you can see people kind of like it was interesting to see their perspective and I also think it was a cool sequence because it gave all time to build that funny roasty relationship and his weird with the players so like you know there's already that kind of banter going and you know to allow everyone to become very natural that was cool yeah absolutely and they were able to locate three out

37:25 Of four of the silver coins before the time ran out which then we immediately go to a trust exercise where everyone's given a drink and a green file and all of them have to pour the screen file into the cup of the person who they don't trust the most and I feel like that this was a really interesting way to do things because we start off immediately I wrote it down where we just find it real quick you know this is somewhere right here with lots of my notes ah here we go where Darth Vando immediately paused it into Brook's cup because she didn't want to hide the fact that she thinks that you know innocent and in all Goods who kind of wanted to play it up like ah he could be maybe a bit but out there to sort of protect her right because Trader and she would you know she was correct that she had targeted a Trader they might she was thinking that they might want to get her out because she's gonna yeah so she's trying to Target somebody who she didn't think to be able to get her up no

38:46 I mean I like the mentality I think that the Traders are smart enough to know not to just always go for the people going for you because it's obvious but yeah I mean I like her mentality yeah I don't think that's what I would have done myself because I think there's also a lot of power and rallying everyone up against who you don't think it's trustworthy yeah but yeah it was I see the strategy yeah not definitely and yeah it was a very interesting Dynamic of votes where Sam had Porters into Colin and Colin was like you're dead to me with that I do like that about it yeah Lauren put us into Dylan Phil also to Dylan and then Robbie just gets slam dunked with pretty much everyone she gets you know the grandfather from Dylan Kimberly Anna Kings Matt and you know eventually you know she saw how the tables were turning so she just pulled her own green file into her own cup yeah just like a funny thing I actually think that was a smart strategic player and maybe this is like overthinking it but hear me I read it if she had like six people voting you know saying that they trusted her the least and then she was

40:06 Like oh bar out I'm in freighter and like they're on to me being she'd pour it into somebody else's in particular something that already had but by her pouring on herself it shows she's like I don't actually care like this is just funny like I don't know bro like I'm just an innocent faithful and it kind of highlights the fact that like she's not over stressing it so to be honest her just doing that joke pouring up yeah no it definitely is strategic because that way you don't you're not on anyone's radar I mean she already is on some of the people's Radars at this point but she's not like adding anyone else to watch out for her right you know and it comes off in a comedic moment as well you know like oh might as well because everyone else is doing it yeah but then something we do see is just ding Paul's her grandfather into dance and we kind of see this throughout the two episodes where Justin she catches on to Dan and just did she accurately you know knows who two of the Traders are she susses out damn pretty quick and light

41:26 On in the episode she calls out Lauren as well maybe you disagree but maybe some because there are a lot of them aren't quite smart but I think they've just been as easily the most onto it as in like not just being like Oh that person's acting differently because they are but like she knows who the Traders are she just it's like she can smell them you know like I think she's very intelligent yeah she was on to Matt at the start as well by being like Oh Matt he seems like the guy who would play dumb even though like he knows exactly what's going on you know she's been very right on pretty much all of her reads throughout the first week he is very impressive yeah I agree but then you know we have rev Colin you know he's a bit of a comedic moment he walks up to Sam he's like I'm not gonna do it actually I will and it gets revenge and pouring up into Sam Michael says to Brody Chris she gives hers to Brady and Brooke gives a rat back to davanda so it's quite interesting to see how we had only Dylan had gone the second highest number of green of green files which is only two

42:46 They've announced a sort of just one yeah oh at this point yeah it's definitely quite interesting but we'll move along towards night time because that's where the real dramatic stuff to happens here on the Traders where we get this really beautiful shot of people walking around in this sort of dark green cloak hanging over them they're holding a lantern and it's really funny because they go into like a sort of private room but to me it looks like the toilet and Shrek you know the sort of just giant like long drop in the middle in the middle of this way like anything like Elder Scrolls dark motherhood Vibes yeah exactly if all three of them versus when somebody was oh no copyright please but yeah I'll not be surprised but we see Matt walking first and is created by Dan and the very happy to see each other you know net recognizes down the strategic game recognizes Matt as someone who's also strategic but also quite social as well but just before we continue massive shout out to Mad Dog Chris hey

44:07 Boys loved the coverage so far thank you so much brother hopefully you're not regretting your decision on letting me take over the podcast and maybe the channel That Could Be My evil plotline you're a conquering team exact team more like TMT you give me you get what I mean but what's that so I actually didn't hear that sorry I just thank you man yeah I'm gonna have to go back into what he said but anyways Lauren comes in and they're all very excited oh hang on [Laughter] already regretting my decisions already but anyways Lauren shows up and they're very excited to see each other they all bring such a unique set of skills to the Traders team and they'll sort of discuss who they would want to eliminate which their main targets were Kimberly because she's a sidekick and she already has quite a bit of influence on everyone there Brooke

45:28 Because he was able to kind of suss out you know Lauren and Matt pretty quickly and Dylan which the only reason was because he's aware of his surroundings because you sort of can like feel the room and Dot his eyes everywhere so they're quite threatened by that what's your thoughts on these three so obviously we know who they ended up holding out and this would be my how I would kind of like rationalize it myself I would say that on the first night having a strong hunch isn't going to get you far because yeah let's say you're like Justinian right and you know who they are and it's the first time when you get to the First Council where you vanish them just because you know it's like not everyone will necessarily listen to you unless you're that persuasive and so in the beginning it's very much a kind of just firing shots you know and so I think that on the first night the most powerful people and probably quite you know a lot of the game in general the most powerful people will be the social people and so yes you know Brooke he's relatively social right and he's pretty on to it but I don't think that he's only one book like even if he's onto it he gets it right he's only one vote and I don't think he has the sway that

46:48 Somebody like and yeah I'm the same with Dylan like he's clearly very you know kind of weird but I don't think that I think that people are already quite wary of Dylan and so it wouldn't really make sense and so voting for Kimberly again it's like whether or not you believe in the in the efficacy of you know psychic abilities you know she there are people better do quite clearly and people listening to her and so whether or not she's a psychic or whatever you know if she throws out a name and she was already saying that she had all these thoughts she clearly was like out the blood right she was already one of the most dangerous people in the game for the credit and so to me that's a no-brainer like it's Kimberly has to go oh absolutely did it already just got people you know coming around it being like no who do you think who do you think you know she's sort of become a vocal voice in the lodge already with her psychic abilities and I do feel bad for her because I think it could have been a great strategy to use but at the at the tribals and stuff right or whatever they're called where she could use that

48:08 Being like I'm actually a sidekick and based on what I've observed these people are the Traders right but instead she went around saying that the whole in the whole day you know so I do feel bad really bad Kimberly well like halfway through but you know the round table Council being like Oh by the way I'm psychic yeah probably I feel like that's the kind of thing that you either use it from the beginning and I think using it in general just puts such a Target on the back is particularly as somebody that's as social as she is like it was too risky yeah absolutely but unfortunately Kimberly she is the first one murdered in this group of Traders unfortunately quite sad to see her so here we go what's your thoughts on Kimberly as a whole we kind of memed on her being like Oh I like you said she wouldn't tell you know say anything about it and she did but like I think in general she seemed like a nice woman like I don't think she did clearly she was social enough to not just be like I'm psychic okay but like I'm psychic and people trusted her like so she's you know obviously I don't know I don't really I

49:28 Don't have anything bad to say about it I think that she just was clearly too she made herself too much of a Target well too early in it you know we see what that did yeah no I liked her I thought she was a really fun character on the show unfortunately was just how she presented her psychic abilities I do believe in psychic abilities and I do think people are oh sorry everyone please stop what you're doing drop your opinions drop your pencils we have the Magnificent Tom McPherson just chopping her to share some lucky love thank you so much brother you know Hamish for some context right at the start pure's first Berlin's I was screaming go sneaky Steve and go Rogue everyone else thought I was nuts you know everyone thought I was out of my mind but only one person stood by me the whole way through and there's a beautiful magnificent time Tom I love you thank you so much for dropping in brother hopefully you're doing well he's it's only too much of a loose unit now I need I need the ego support right you know Chris and Kahuna they try and knock me down so the more support I get to go back up she more

50:49 Crazy theories the better Hamish you know that already yeah that's so interesting hey have you heard of NZ Traders yeah we should probably get back to Traders sorry I love Tom too much but anyways so everyone wakes up the next morning you know slowly come in into you know just Lodge and everyone's like oh hopefully it's not mapped do you know everyone's like really concerned for Matt but hopefully he makes them through he comes there and people give him a big round of applause what'd you think of this book 183 on that I think that he's like you know there was a bit of Suspicion about him playing up oh I'm so dumb and funny and so we've done but I think that he's just played us that same card so well that even though there was some suspicion about him playing it's worked anyway I think that we like at this point that we're up to so he is really solidified himself well I think that he's played magnificently yeah absolutely your spot on and unfortunately Kimberly does not walk through that door and everyone's shocked

52:09 You know everyone thought that she was you know big vocal person in the in the lot so quite a lot of people are shocked but the moment that we're all waiting for and I was so glad that it happened before Henry comes out and he's like everyone Kimberly has died he grabs your photos and he goes anyways and he just tosses it to the floor and he just moves on yeah there really should be remembered yeah and he sits up the next mission he says that you know everyone should come dressed for a funeral because they'll be most appropriate and you know we fast forward to a you know or the contestants are hopping in cars slowly heading towards the church and we get one moment which was a bit of a slip up but an accidental slip up because she's not even a Trader but Robbie talks about how you know she like Kimberly made herself a Target you know we had to go but then she says we made the right decision to get rid of it yeah and she obviously meant like you know we as she described it as the Royal wig but yeah it

53:29 Sounded a little sucks it was very sad I feel bad for Robbie because different throughout the whole second episode she would say something but everyone would like take it the wrong way like I think even one point episode one she's like oh I'll be too drunk to murder anyone and Dylan's like hmm oh yeah too drunk to murder someone eh like yeah true yeah but anyway I say I keep forgetting what this challenge is all right I have it so they arrive at this church and they're going and there's all these people really sitting you know in all the states that they turn around they've got you know these massive hats and these bright golden faces and poor Henry stands up and he's like welcome to the funeral of Kimberly we've got like a coffin and we've got like a big photo of her and all these people were just staring at the contestants and he announces what the challenge is which is he's gonna take the contestants one by one into a confession stand or room and he's going to read them like a hitting for a verse in the Bible which is in the contestant must go back read that verse from the Bible and find an item of clothing the best matches that

54:49 Verse what did you think of this challenge premise was interesting and I thought it was creative the way it played out even though they got the last one wrong I think in general it's a pretty easy Mission I it felt kind of like a villa to me it felt like they were trying to just go last time in the episode I don't know it's I don't think it was it ruined the episode I and it was good because it highlighted something about Lauren's behavior which they all mention later on in that episode and they just will get started yeah but yeah it was I don't know I was relatively impartial to it yeah I've personally never read the Bible I have read a verse of it when I joined like a friend's Bible study but that's just the one time I went so I found it quite fascinating to like actually know more about the Bible some of the different verses they have you know they've got stuff about Adam and Eve and like you know love and marriage was quite interesting right I mean it's definitely very political book but I suppose we're not doing Bible studies right now no

56:09 No we're not a Bible study but all the contestants go up and the first one I forgot what the exact phrase was but something about you know like sandals on the fee they forget it right because there's only one person in the whole world that isn't wearing any shoes and the next one it's something about like the garden I believe something with an apple and someone's wearing Apple socks so they get that right oh really yeah and look at you making the full commitment I've got nothing I'm not wearing any merch no apple or pineapple socks but anyways we move on to like a Vine and Colin Echo it gets it right by saying a lemon handkerchief and the fourth one is about hands being been covered and a large they're able to find someone with like almost like half a cast yeah almost like yep that's her but then the last one which it's something about like saying faithful to marriage rather than just being like a like I guess just like a flame of love right and they narrowed down to two people because

57:29 Only two people got rings on their fingers unfortunately Brody gets it wrong so they only walk away with just four out of out of the 5K they could have got him no they walk away with 5K out of the six because there's a snake pit as well kind of throughout the challenge they noticed that Lauren is sort of hanging back she's not really participating as much what's your what's your thoughts on Lauren just hanging back okay so she had mentioned later on in the episode that she is in general like a quiet person that doesn't necessarily lead and she's more like other people do it not in the lazy way but you know more of a quieter I don't know Lauren in person so it's hard for me to really judge itself her friend blind communion he said he said later on that like he knows but it's a person but he thinks that's different and still so yeah like yes I guess that maybe that's not terribly different to how she would have acted like clearly it's different enough that

58:50 It I raised the position like is she is she like really trying so hard to see him thanks for that yeah no I'm not that spot on where like even Sam was able to pick up the changes in her personality and how she and how differently she's acted despite it being such a quite introverted you know person but we fast forward back to the lodge and immediately we get Mike and Brody sort of tell Dan about how robber used the term we've been talking about you know killing off Kimberly which they're Debbie is back to Dan's interest you can kind of tell like you could almost hit like the clocks and it's here you know just spinning as his you know I guess kind of preparing to kind of throw rugby but yeah but out of this we also get Brody red sticking up for Laura no not for line for Robbie saying how people only find suspicious because she's the only guess quote-unquote non-hough celebrity here yeah like a few people were like and so for

1:00:10 The people that didn't really have a big opinion they're like oh I guess you seems suspicious you know yeah and this kind of continue at the Hope side where we had both Brody and Justine really go to back for Robbie as they slowly turned the wheels against Lauren which I found to be quite interesting you know just in with the perfect reads once again you know it's slow but surely turning things around onto Lauren what's your what's your thoughts on Brody and Justin really going I think Brody is this kind of player where she's social and I think people that like her I think she's definitely like it's a bit of like a hard person in this kind of like I don't know how to put it D I mean okay for the for the people who have watched Survivor I think that's a lot of people watching us she gives me Brody gives me like Daisy Vibes you know what I mean where he's like sorry person and that's the kind of vibe we get from Brody I mean yeah I'm still sold on that you know forgetting any strategy or anything like that just with her read Justine is easily the most onto it personally can absolutely it doesn't surprise me that you know she

1:01:30 Was just like yeah and Lauren you know on her way back we're on her way back from the challenge or on the way to the no yeah I was on the way back from the challenges he's sitting next to Colin in the car and I mentioned it earlier I mentioned a game where Colin makes that joke was like who are you going to murder tonight because he was kind of onto her and she's just like oh my God and then it goes silent for a second and then she's like I wouldn't talk and it's like bro why are you I just don't think she was a good player it really showed so rhodian Justine being on to Lauren it I get stay with you they just felt it they just knew it yeah it's a hard thing it's like you've got this massive secret right you've got this mess of identity so when someone kind of calls you out on it like the most natural thing is to sort of be like ah you got me you got me you know kind of like a prank but you can't in this game because then people will immediately slowly start to turn on you which that's what we saw at the at the voting here so everyone you know gathers around in a circle and Robbie's just a mess you know she knows that she's in the hot seat like her hand so like up in her hair You Can Tell She's you know getting quite sweaty and stuff and Anna admittedly you know starts

1:02:50 Us off by accusing Robbie of being a Trader just right out of the gate who are Mike what's your what's your thoughts on that I think that I think that Anna is not like a down player or anything like I think you know her opening up about the alopecia to Sam you know with yeah I mean she explained it in her I've been in her confessional I just told him that like she you know if she doesn't want to seem like she's been hiding anything and for the reason she opened up about that wasn't good to open up about it but it was actually like a strategic so I think that she's probably thinking about it like she's he's not just getting roped alone again but I don't think that she's like you know I don't think she's at the caliber on a lot of the other players I think that she's definitely like a like a beef yeah and definitely I forgot to talk about it such a beautiful moment between Anna and Sam you know same talking about how he's blind and they're talking about her Alzheimer's his house oh sorry so I got complete the wrong thing but yeah what a beautiful moment for just the two of them to really Bond on something like that it's quite rare to see those moments on TVs these

1:04:10 Days you know yeah it's quite beautiful to say yeah anyways we'll move back to the to the voting Brody sticks up for Robbie and Colin asks Robbie who do you think is the traitor and she immediately calls out Lauren for being a Trader and quite soon after we see you know her being like what no oh never heard a fly like it's not my problem I'm just such a nice person you know which we admittedly get Sam sort of popping up about how like you know I know you're like you know like introverted and actually like quite quiet but you've been you know hanging back maybe a bit too much outside of the main circles another thing is like when you know when you're lying and then like you're saying one thing like oftentimes you might actually shake your head if you're a thing you don't do oh if you think that you do something that you don't you know that you shake your head but that's like you're not mixing like yeah no I would never do that and like oftentimes people because if they're not thinking about their small movements like that so often like because it's so subconscious the nod or

1:05:31 Shape your head depending on what you actually mean and so quite often into worldwide and they would do things like that and I don't know if anyone picked up on it but I noticed with some of the first few people falling out Lauren before she really you know looks like I'm in this group like you could see that they would be explaining why they think she wins their Trader and then she'll just be sitting there nodding herself a lot and the way that she acted the way that she reacted counted thank you she just he didn't do that last little rough you know gospel yeah that she needed for doing she just kind of you know yeah no absolutely you're pretty much spot on with that and right after even Justine speaks up it sort of twist things on to Lauren with how she's been behaving and acting and we go right to the vote right to the vote and we see quite like a few random votes we have we have Vanda voting for Chris because she thinks

1:06:51 You know Chris is acting like a little bit suspicious because she was close to Kimberly we see Lauren vote for Dylan we see Colin something we've got to mention Colin just threw out this whole episode to see his eyes on Thunder Darth Vander and he's like do nothing could be and this is actually something I wanted to comment on earlier but I wanted to wait this Colin is a very good social player but you watch the way he describes like the way he's like I think he's trying to be very observant I don't think his breeds are very good like yeah these little things small behavioral changes like he is picking up on them but I think he's overthinking and so the behavioral changes anything yeah and so he's sold on darthunder and I think that a very good socially at the moment but I think that he's the reason yeah and it also really depends how like what he does

1:08:11 With a sort of one-way rivalry he's got with a band that you know we saw in the most recent season of Australian Survivor Simon was so going home getting George out to the point where people started turning on Simon yeah simply because of how much he wanted George out you know yeah and so you know maybe there's a problem that Colin's gonna have you know later on but it's going to be like bro like what's your what's your people yeah Colin's gonna burn up finders hat yeah but we'll move on to some more of the votes match votes for Colin and he sort of does this bit of Joker Colin you know it's a bit of a jiggy throw out which I thought there was very smart it was actually yeah you're right it was smart because earlier on for everyone filed online when Lauren was first brought up in that later from the discussion path like Matt kind of tried to say why he thought it wouldn't be her like he tried to have it back but when he realized like he was definitely stuffed he was like okay I'm just gonna vote for you know somebody not us not be affiliated with

1:09:32 One so basically an offer for what yeah so by going Colin it's like he's not actually he's basically crying away but he's saying like I don't care I'm not actually voting with you yeah funny is that kind of like Luke you know yeah yeah you know Joseph's father I do think it's more of like just a throwaway just in those Threat Level I think he's playing the cards of I'm just the goofy wacky guy who's here just for the fun like really well like he's not he's not strategizing but he you know in actuality it's credited as well yeah but then unfortunately everyone else just piles their votes onto Lauren including Dan a fellow traitor also saw how the tides were turning and also voted for Lauren what's your thoughts on Dan turning on his fellow Trader I think that was the second smartest movement again no I think I think that was very like I probably I think I would have done the same thing in his situation like he could see even before the other person read that everyone's gonna perform it you know and she was gonna go out no matter who he voted for he could vote for Robbie Dylan himself you know Lauren was going

1:10:52 Up and so by being by affiliating himself with the people voting for her I guess the idea is that he seems less suspicious and like I guess other faithful if they're really smart might think like for example Justine was over down to then she might think she might know what Dan did she might be like he obviously just voted for Lauren because he had to you know so some people might see through it but I think a lot of the people who are LED onto it would be like nah Dan's all Goods you know what I mean yeah no absolutely you know he's sort of the tides are turning instead of trying to you know save someone who's pretty much like a dead horse at this point yeah do you know you continued on the pile but the Death Stare Lauren gave to Dan just like what on Earth bro that like I get that she felt betrayed even though it's like bro like we're out anyway you know I think it was pretty straightforward but the death stare annoyed me because for anyone who saw that death stare and people quite possibly might have if they're deceptive enough like she didn't give disses to anyone else like when whoever you know XYZ voted the law and she was just like and as soon as Dan does she's like and it's not like they were acting like really close

1:12:12 Friends you know in a general sense so the only way it should be that close and so yeah she just doesn't hide things well yeah no absolutely but unfortunately Lauren should get some majority of the votes and she tells everyone that she's a Trader and everyone celebrates like it's the fourth of July you know we've got we get a Ticky hoorah everyone's like you know applauding and jumping out of their seats what did you what did you think of this big reaction to eliminating someone I think that it makes sense because getting out of a Trader it's a good thing first and so I feel like they're just like well you know yeah that I don't see I don't not see why they did it I think the move there as a Trader literally because you're always playing no matter what part of the game you're always having to Play It Again the thing to do here is to go through raw and joining because if you're sitting there like I don't feel kind of fun and everyone else is going through raw man like somebody's gonna see that you know Vietnam you're absolutely right and but

1:13:32 Then you know after Lauren leaves you know everyone goes back to Lodge everyone's chatting everyone's socializing and once again Justine is very suspicious of Dan yeah you know which I think is going to play a big part into next week especially when at the end of the episode we get both Matt and Dan back into Shrek's little toilet you know back into his cheeky little Hut and yep yeah and they have a choice mate they can either seduce or kill so if they seduce they can bring another player is one of the faithfuls to join their sort of Traitor Syndicate but before I continue I had to chat with Chris today about it turns on the other versions of the Traders the Facebook can't decline the offer okay and so is that the same with this one probably yes it's not confirmed if it would be the same or not but in other versions that it would be the same and so I think that there are only a few people that they could try to seduce I think there are some people that would be like faithful yeah obviously would make sense it's a juice even though it would also not make sense because it would be so obvious and

1:14:52 Then everyone will just turn and call him yeah oh my go random thought bro what if they what if they seduce somebody who they think would definitely accept it but would be like not the obvious one and then so that way everyone's alerted oh they've seduced somebody and everyone thinks it's pollen and everyone starts gunning for Colin and then the Traders can like pretend to slip up have been mates with Colin that would be dude if they could play that right they just start to feel like that's really sucks with Colin just to Chuck him under the bus bro that was I want them to do that would be those they're good that was so funny that was so great but they do decide that they're going to kill instead of seduce you know they want to try to take out someone really massive you know because obviously the paintballs just pulled out a huge win so why not take out a matter of low and the targets for next week is Anna because she's got you know great stories she's very social very loved Chris people were already kind of like you know untouched she seems but untrustworthy but she also doesn't quite social but they're the big player Justine is also up for elimination what's your thoughts on those three so I don't think there's a point putting on Chris because she's social

1:16:12 But she's gunning for the wrong people so it's like if she has a presence in the game and people trust her and then they vote with her against the wrong person it's like why would you not keep her as another again like you're right that people do like her and she's social and I think people kind of resonate with the fact that she's quite an honest person but as I mentioned before she's kind of like a b tier player like why you don't think that she's a big threat to the Traders and you know obviously they don't want to only go for threats because otherwise it's obvious but you know I think that she's so unthreatening that there's no point getting rid of it at least this early you know and so I think that Justine is like you know when she described at that Council like her evenings it made a lot of sense and because Lauren was it was a correct guess I think a lot of people might start to trust as things instead I think that again as well as being already like as a describing in those biscuits are playing I think that she's going to start to go up and you know the kind of social status and the people's respect and stuff and so voting out just being just seems like a neighboring yeah absolutely I think Dan is under Justine

1:17:32 I think he knows that she's on to him and I think Madison agrees with that I think that he's Keen to sort of you know go with the flow you know try to take out a big player which Justine absolutely is you know she almost turns the entire room against Laura you know so I think Justin's definitely the right pick but that's the full two episodes man before we continue what's your thoughts on Lauren before we go so outside of the context of traded I think that she seems like the kind of person that I would get with in a general sense like I think that it seems nice like you know she's is fun I like I said before on paper like she and the other two were the perfect Trio as Traders she just didn't play it well I think that like she would have been very good if she were bitter at hiding and no I just think that she wouldn't get acne under pressure and if she'd like mentally prepared like okay somebody might call me out at some point what am I gonna do if somebody pulls me out and I don't think that she had that thought not that I would no I can't read a mind but you know I don't think that she had that thought and if she had like prepared more for when she would be called out and how she would react

1:18:53 Like I think the greatest should be doing I think that maybe she might have been able to play it often up some of the heat off of her but you know she just yeah I just think that she wasn't quite up to the hoot of Paul's Kitchen yeah no I think I think I've said she just because metatrater Vibes I think she's someone who definitely could have had a lot of potential I think once you sort of get her feet in the ground she could have ran miles with her unfortunately just not she's not with this unfortunately that's a nice one like I give it he's like the quieter introverted one but because like the whole the whole thing as a Trader is to be the knife player she had to be a social player like geez yeah if she just decided to sit in the back and be the quiet introvert like I get that's how she is but like She's Not Gonna Go Far like she has to yeah the fact that she's the kind sweetheart kind of player you know like yeah and she didn't yeah but that brings us to a wrap of the first week of the New Zealand Traders Hamish what's your overall thoughts first week done in Dustin I am really liking it I agree with what we're going to kind of at John at the beginning that New Zealand like you know show them that like this kind of reality

1:20:13 Show this kind of game show yeah made a new producing New Zealand and everything they usually are very much like trying to be like it's fine to be like on these American surviving Center and stuff like that and it's a significant like it's always I mean I don't know not everyone has to agree with me but I think a lot of people clearly do but this I think this is very good it's like the right amount of spooky Vibes and I love that I love spooky stuff but it's also very funny and new and there are times where somebody will say something I mean absolutely but it's like cringing at the person and not the show and that makes us more invested it's that kind of like laughing at people laughing at the dummy comments friends where you actually enjoy it there's actually one quote that I forgot to mention mentioned by Mad Dog Colin himself who says now that the Traders are selected we can now see who is good strategically and who's just dumb okay like I'm not from online I'm not trying to call Walmart yeah it was a bit of a stitch up there but anyways thank you

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