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Survivor 46: Episode 6 Review

Podcast episode · 6 Apr 2024 · 1 hr 13 min

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0:13 [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] welcome back to the nullify te Channel on YouTube where we've got the TNT takes for you on Survivor 46 episode 6 that's right we're back I'm your host Chris and with me today is my fellow co-host Kahuna and also Jake it's been a while Jake since I've actually spoken to you about Survivor I feel like you've missed the last couple of Recaps that we've done how's things been how are you enjoying the season so far well I think since the last time we talked about the show it's definitely gotten a lot better for all of us all of our opinions on the show have

1:34 Definitely gotten better and it's been a while hasn't it sickness and life have gotten in the way but I'm glad especially in this portion of the season to be talking about it yeah 100% I think I said it last week as well when we get into the merge portion of the game we now what is the new I think what is the weakest part of Survivor in the new age is the premerge it's the most boring phase it's the most predictable phase we've got the six people tribes and that makes it very easy to know who's on the outs and who's probably going to go home and it's just a lot of things that happen in the pre merge that I find less interesting but with the merge obviously having I think it was like 13 people together at the at well I guess it's not fully merged until you win the challenge but at least there's a lot more different things that we can talk about when it comes to votes when it comes to strategizing I thought the game was more interesting this week for sure and Huna it had a low bar for us to like it because I mean we had the pre merge we had a lot of bar new stuff happening and yeah like I feel like it was always going to go up moving into the merch in my mind I will I will give that like post the post Banu era is definitely better than the than the Banu torture that we live through but yeah like I'm excited like we're actually

2:54 I did have fun this episode and then if I'm going to be the Negative Nancy which I don't know I'm going to do it quick but then I'll focus on the positive I felt a little bit of bitter taste in my mouth that we went through half the season to get to the point where it's actually kind of becoming interesting a little bit and like you said the bar is low like I don't think like the vote we saw some of the strategies and ideas we saw were still like I'm still a bit down but I'm coming up I'm on the up I'm like getting into it we saw a lot from people this episode that I was like oh they're actually interesting whether it was good or not is another story but that's what made so much Survivor great is even when it's not bad it's fascinating it's interesting it's fun to watch and I feel like we're getting that now and not just from the perspective of hate watching or trying to watching something interesting but [ __ ] on it like we're not like now it's actually fun and we're seeing some stuff eventuate which is really good but it took six episodes like come on like six episodes half a season to get to the point where like ah this was kind of interesting so I'm getting in now I'm hoping Jeff will bring me home strong with the last half of the Season yeah thanks before that I do agree with you it's taken a while to get to this point and but luckily we're there now and again if you've

4:14 Got like if you're like me when it comes to watching a TV show like I bounce out normally within the first three episodes if I'm not interested I'm like it has to capture me from the start because there's so much competition out there right now I mean we're living in the best ERA of reality TV where every single channel that you can think of has got a version I mean we've even got Deal or No Deal Island right now which I haven't been watching but there's so much yeah we're spoiled for Choice today when it comes to reality TV so I totally get where you're coming from Chris welcome to the live saying it was a long week at work but I woke up from an app in the live yeah I think all of us like I got smashed this week as well but you know always happy to talk about survival with everybody here in the life and thank you Chris for joining us gab saying this episode was pretty boring but at least can discuss and analyze the gameplay choices which is interesting I do agree like the game playay is probably the most part of the most interesting part of the episode and that is actually why I've enjoyed it because we finally saw some different conversations happening we can kind of debate if some of the moves that were made throughout this episode was good or not I just feel like there's more to talk about compared to some of the previous episodes that we've had Danica not driving for a change ready for the live welcome Danica Victoria welcome for the welcome to the live as well and we've got kiwi here we've got Georgette

5:35 Things are looking up for this cast totally agree georged I think that there is more positive now that we are getting into the merge hopefully we get to know the characters a little bit better I felt really bad for the person who did end up going home but we'll talk about that throughout this podcast as well I don't know if I said hello to Dolores but Dolores welcome to the live as well and let's get into it straight in the beginning of this episode Jake we start off at the green tribe the Sega tribe they've just voted out and blindsided Jim which was a bit of a shock like I mean we saw enough as to why she got voted out last week because she was playing a pretty aggressive game but ultimately you know Survivor likes to keep us in the dark in regards to what the true plan is or what the actual conversations are that is happening when somebody goes home and Jim does go home so Mariah was blindsided just like us and I felt like I lived through Mariah because I also had Blindside coming into this episode happen and she's on the outs and she has to make a big decision this episode in regards to will she stay Sega strong or will she not stay sea strong they do a lot of good work to make her feel like she's part of the tribe here in the early stages and clearly even though she knew that this is the right thing for them to do for some or other reason she still felt like she had a home with seaga like what's your analysis when it comes to Mariah

6:55 Because for someone that loved strategic players like auy and that like I feel like you should know if you've been left out of the vote like you're not that important to this tribe for sure I think that's the most obvious takeaway from this episode is that she shouldn't have she should have been more open about the fact that there was an obvious crack the vote wasn't unanimous the fact that sea was able to convince her to go along with that farce was pretty crazy especially given that they just ended up cannibalizing anyways but I think it does show that sea you know I guess as a group is pretty powerful and it and there's a reason why yanu and Nami wanted to split them up because they are the vibe tribe as they said like they really are you know just like chilling and like want to stay together they genuinely like each other and I think Mariah got caught up in that and you know she took her eye off the prize you know and I think that's what her mistake was and we'll get into you know Tribal Council you know where she tries to sort of flip it on its head but just wasn't enough yeah totally agree anom

8:15 Chris here says warning to anyone watching if you go on Survivor and someone asks you who your favorite player is say the most random loser player you can think of I'm gonna say it's Banu for me it was Bobby JN like obviously I mean Bobby JN was just such a great Survivor player that you know the strategy and the competitiveness like it's all about competition it's all about winning I know he didn't do a lot of winning in this first season but you know I don't know I don't know how much strategy he really had to his game I think yeah oh sorry go ahead I think that goes too goes too far the other way people are gonna like this guy's an idiot I don't want him on my team you got to be subtle you got to be like I know the game but I'm not like you know I'm not picking the aubre and you know if you came out and said Tony people are going to be watching I would just use Denny like no one hated Denny okay so I feel like nice in offensive sounds like you're a Guatemala fan I'm gonna pick Bob yeah Bob like that's inoffensive No One's Gonna Be Like You Like Bob like he was just this lovable old guy who won yeah you know and I'm like okay Bob's inoffensive and fair you know no one's be like that's a bad choice well it is kind of if it's your favorite player I guess if you're strategic at all like you

9:35 You're picking smarter players but I think it to fit in this sweet spot I like a bob yeah Q I'm just gonna say Chris who's bringing who's bringing who up this podcast okay who's bringing who up this podcast it's not from me you go ahead Q's whole interaction with Mariah was pretty hilarious to me I mean you're just are you're just not you're not allowed to say that your favorite player is somebody who was good at the game to him yeah like automatically or a threat you're a dangerous it wasn't the it wasn't Aubrey he saw it in the eyes like it was in her eyes yeah oh yeah those eyes they'll get you seriously and you know it would be pretty brilliant if like Q really didn't think that like her saying that was that crazy but if he was able to convince other people that it was but he really did believe like oh whoa Aubrey's her favorite player like this is bad like she needs to go C can we just take a moment to appreciate the fact that Q didn't quit on us when we were fearful that he was going to quit at one point because Q was probably in my opinion the standout performer of this episode like by far like I mean the guy yeah the guy carried he carried this episode right

10:56 Immediately coming into the merch he's got the plan of the six people everybody gets their tag along he has the moment where he goes up to talk to Mariah and she's not on board and now he's questioning to him so many little story lines and one of the most fascinating things while we're talking about q and Mariah was when Mariah came clear at the tribal council saying I'm the rift I'm the person and she's like I'm in trouble I need to come clean and he's like coaching her about how to play the game like C can't help himself he has to coach he doesn't have baru there to coach anymore so now he's got to coach the girl who's on the out at tribal councila it was hilarious to see that Q just wants to be a coach mate like I hope he gets that contract afterwards you know to go coach somewhere I just realized with you guys being so infectiously positive I must be on something like in my coffee I don't know if there's something in my drink but Q this week pissed me off I'm like thisy love them so intense I'm like settle down man like I said last week I was last week I said when he was doing the quitting you know ruse I was like there's no way he's quitting now that he got some muffins now that he's you know they want a challenge he's like in he's like back and then he went like too much he's like I'm well in I'm gonna interrogate everyone I'm

12:16 Going to like yeah he's coach he's like playing like he can't break out of the sports mode he's telling people what to do he like he almost smacked him over the head he's like go tell like what are you doing go get her like he says he's saying like in front of te it was so funny it was that's it what would we yeah exactly what would we have talked about if Q didn't like he obviously I'm not saying I'm not saying Q's playing this like I think there's no way in hell Q's winning this game I think he showed us enough in this episode to show us that he's not winning the game but is he being entertaining and is he doing the most right now 100% and that is why I'm loving Q because to talk about he's playing hard and you can't him for that going to cancel Christmas I love how I love that Q is just like I don't know where he's from specifically but I know it's somewhere South he's just a good old boy and he talks like Charles Barkley sometimes but like some of the things that come out of his mouth I'm like Mariah's Gonna Cancel Christmas like this guy the Aubrey thing the I thing and I'm like Q if see this is a problem with the small tribes because if he had been in a bigger tribe and saw Mariah learning to jump he would have been not a threat he would no he would have

13:36 Been the one not threat at all he would have been the one yeah he would have got her jumping he would have got her jumping at least a 2inch vertical like increase from you know dedicated she would have been if Q had a if Q had a couple months she'd be in the dunk contest in no time 100% I want to bring this up from hell hello says Q bothered me with the Jess boot week I feel bad for Jess and Q got more like AEL but I don't forget and he can't get my heart obviously he can't because he's not playing for a million Hearts like he's playing to win the million dollars okay like Q's not there to get people's hearts and that's why I love him's already got them all that's why he's got my heart by playing for the money Scott here is saying join you live because the news is too depressing yeah join us keep away from the news we don't want you to be depressed over the weekend getting into your weekend you've got to be you know we're even going to turn kuna's frown upside down by the end of this podcast having some fun with some I'm good I'm good we already we already accomplished that Frank also says I'm sorry Q got his ass handed to him by Mariah she lapped q in the midsection of the challenge I would vote for her I voted for that alone there was no jumping it was ground it was close to the ground it was like lying on the ground there's no jumping at all that's why she could do it staying yeah staying like stationary and gravity

14:56 Let gravity do it work gave her superow I need to point something out I need to point something out have you guys heard of the show wipe outp out oh yeah wipe out Yeahs man Big Red Bulls you know who was on Wipeout and won Mariah what that is Jing I know somebody posted this on Reddit and I was like this is the craziest thing I've ever seen how did you win wipe out if you can't jump I haven't seen any I haven't I haven't seen any clips of her actually competing on wipe out but that I mean that just defies logic I mean we saw her jumping she can't jump this is insane yeah I don't know if we're g to get blocked or anything but we got to see this two ambitious young women who work in male Domin oh she was on Game Changer she's on Game Changer I love that show wow oh no not game Cher it was sorry want everyone to know that there's nothing anything men can do we yes baby a lot people in the can do the jumping here's Mariah giving the hoop Hopper a shot you got this she did hey can

16:16 We start a wipe out podcast be nice if they weren't she's not even trying to jump she's just like pushing her body one jumping maybe they didn't win maybe I read that wrong but I think how did like that's all we saw but how did she win by not actually clearing maybe her partner carried her I don't know g theot here are you sure it's not Liz because Liz and Mariah look so much alike she didn't say she's rich though she didn't say how rich she is so it's probably not Liz was Mariah was Q right all along was Maria Mariah really this Mastermind out there that was like minimizing her Threat Level by pretending like she couldn't jump this is brilliant that's like the greatest like Charlie Chaplan Jim Carrey physical levels of Comedy where you can fake not jumping like that holy crap I don't I don't know how I would do that yeah all right I need to I need to go back a little bit before we get too much into the what happened at the challenge I know we went challenge heavy but let's talk a little bit about Hunter and one of the most interesting

17:36 Parts of the episode was when they finally find out that they're all going to be on the same Beach everybody's coming to nami's Beach and Hunter knows he's got a clock he's like pretending he's happy he runs off goes and gets the clue needs to come back searge for it by the steps finds the key what a crazy scene and I just Jake want to take my hat off to because we have been critical of the show for good reason I will add and I will continue to be critical about certain things about the show but we also have to give props where we have to give props right the editing of this segment with him running away the soda and Venus like having an argument while he's trying to look for this Idol and the music everything just seemed perfect this is when Survivor is right in the pocket where it needs to be when it comes to just creating captivating TV for sure I mean when you're able to now especially even more so with the merge having so many different people and not just having the episodes focus on one guy and his you know struggle when you're able to show all of the characters and you know Hunter you know showed us that you know he works hard to find these things I mean that was crazy I mean I can't I don't know how much real time

18:57 Elapsed between then getting the note and them actually arriving but I can't imagine you had like much margin for error at all like so that was really impressive and hell like while he searching for it do you hear soda in the background saying oh wow they're coming in fast like the boats are on the way EDI an audio edit AUD editing was super good though it was it was super watch yeah I was on the edge of my seat and I enough time though right like it has you can't go you got like you got 20 minutes like they blow up his game immediately like I imagine they're on the walkie talkies they're on the walkie talkies the guy on the boat being like just take them for another couple of laps around neighboring Hunter's having a bit of trouble finding the key just wait a second don't board him on the boat just yet he comes Le he comes Le abort take him back take him back take him back take him back I bet you I bet you they're like on the walkie-talkies like talking about it especially for a guy like Hunter who I'm sure they are rooting for you know because he's just so likable you know yeah and it's interesting because I've been on the hunter train for a while

20:17 Now I've always said like Hunter is one of the players like I'm kind of shouting for but I've noticed also online the little bits that I've now looked online it seems like a lot of people are starting to jump on the hunter bandwagon and a lot of people are getting really behind him as one of the people that they would like to see go deep and win this game but I still have my eyes on T like T is getting just key moments that he's talking to the camera about you know I'm going to welcome them in I'm going to make them feel all at home you know we're going to all talk about their dreams and how we all have these dreams we want to achieve to get to the end you know so clearly just being shown as like someone that I think is going to continue to be a social threat the only downside that I have on tev potentially is the fact that coming into the merge he was so willing to just let go of one of his numbers early on and I understand it like Venus did a lot she probably did enough to be voted out this episode but T being willing to let a number go this quickly in contrast to Tim who was trying to save all of his numbers kuna I'm a little bit worried for T there I don't know if the long-term strategy is there but he's definitely getting an edit that keeps telling us hey T is still in the game as well just keep focusing on him I don't think he ever saw Venus as a number he's getting a read on the fact like she's maybe one of the bluntest survivors we've seen as far as like

21:37 All the subtlety of you know a brick just approaching people with strategy she's like poverty she's like poverty also clearly didn't have any subtleties to her game you know like the comparison's been made yeah I don't think we're going to see the same level of from going forward but yeah like she's so full on I'm wonder if te's like we haven't got her like even when we merge she's going to immediately find other like and if that's the fact then yeah like that's now someone with insight and info against you that will use that against you because she said I've got no one like she immediately tried to do it and I think that was pretty clear to every like the fight with soda like she's like why aren't like there's no chance that they thought we can get her back in like Sega did with Mariah at least or try to comfort her they were like there's no very different scenarios happening you know two people on the outs one tribe was willing and able to bring that person back in the other one didn't even try they just gave up on it kiwi said absolutely Kona she's a subtle as a brick to the Head let's read a couple more comments Frank here says Hunter good job don't announce at Camp let's all go Idol hunting separately to clear the camp

22:57 Good strategy Chris is saying I wonder how production decided which tribe got whichare task the difference between gem taking measurements and Hunter sticking his fingers in the steps yep definitely each one of the beware Advantage beware advantages was slightly different I think the fact that the they could have probably changed the clue because at certain points they were like you have to go back to get the next clue so they probably also it's also I think there's different Clues depending on if you lose or if you make the merge yeah because there's different yeah this is the merge one and they knew he had to countdown so they had to do a quick one if he had days you know days to figure it out and do it whatever like it would have been different I think yeah like Tiffany had to like decipher something like in a different language like you can't put that when you're making it to the merge Danica here says it had to be at least 30 minutes right I mean each tribe set you have 10 minutes to pack then the travel time and listen Dan travels a lot she's in a car a lot so she'll know that when you're oner she's a travel expert and when you're on a boat you know there is no congestion there's no traffic that you have to deal with so you can take pretty far though right like I've heard it in the

24:17 Past they're like half an hour rad ride each time I've heard I've heard that in Fiji depending on which Beach you're on it can take around like 45 minutes to get to aall yeah that I think thing that gets me the most is the fact that I've heard from players and not from the US Survivor side of it but from Australian Survivor that sometimes when you go on these boat rides to challenges and things like that they blindfold you and that to me is like the thing that would probably be the most weird is like you're getting blindfolded in between going from one location to the other location like I just can't imagine that would be a fun thing if you're out on a boat and you're hitting waves and you don't even know when you're hitting a W that's scary yeah which is why we've had people injur on boat rides before you know and surv one person even medac in the past as well and David vs Goliath so we've got kiwi saying yes something like that sounds right in regards to the time it's Hunter and Venus people love I'm lower I'm a bit lower on Venus after this epis I was I was on the Venus train up until this episode but I feel like she is just doing too much and the more I like see of her now and the more they're giving her a time I feel like she would be someone if I was out there her personality would raid on me a little bit plus I'm a guy so I know she would want to vote me out so I wouldn't be able to want work with her

25:37 Jake at all like she was very let's get the guys out early at the merge yeah definitely I think you know as a TV character she's very entertaining you know just her 100 bluntness and just like how she just like tearing everybody apart calling them stupid calling them idiots which honestly she's got some she's got some good points about who they're voting out who they decide to vote out at this Tribal Council but yeah for sure if I was out there playing with her I'd be like Tevin like get this girl out I'm not will you know she's very different to most of your generation Jake to talk about this like she's 24 years old right so she's gen z and most genz are all about like and maybe that's why people like her so much because yeah like the more I think about it as a character she's kind of a little bit villainous in some ways like imagine someone like her playing the game back in Australian Outback she would have been the Jerry man oh my gosh she's exact yeah she's totally like Jerry yeah I think people didn't like it and now I feel like because everybody was so Cutthroat back in the day now the culture has shifted to a point where everybody cares so much about each other's feelings and making sure everybody's okay and she's just like I don't care this is what it is and people find it refreshing probably to a certain degree yeah gen C you know

26:58 They're it's interesting their opinions on reality TV because they love people like Venus or cast chaos cast you know people that just tear into other people just without a care in the world you know but you know obviously they're more I guess inclusive and sensitive I guess you know we don't need it on our reality TV we need that's why they like it though yeah it's TV it's not real life like they can they can watch Jersey Shaw and they can oh not that's not Deni that's yeah that's why I said it what watching it though yeah Venus you know what my take on Venus is and I'm gonna come off controversial here and I hope I don't put too many people off she is young and she's beautiful and she's used to getting what she wants in life so she goes you know she just says like she doesn't get told no a lot I reckon so she's very blunt very forward and a lot of people give her what she wants and when you run into Survivor that's not going to real life stuff doesn't always work on an island with that many people you know like or those type of people playing a game I think that her bluntness is probably part of her being

28:18 The way she looks being young and being I think she's a data analyst or something so she's very numbers very like you know what I mean there's not the interaction the salesman of Chris getting people inside the negotiating the persuasiveness blah she's facts numbers we don't need to be talking too much about that you know on this podcast don't blow up my spot if AA was to go out and play this game but I get I get where you're coming from I will say one thing though I think her backstory had her like she's first generation immigrant to the country as well I could be wrong here and somebody can correct me if I'm if I'm wrong but sometimes just coming from like that immigrant kind of background it makes you really hardworking as well and you take the ball by the horn so it could also just be cultural for her and the way that she approaches things and you know in life that is really good because people a lot of the times people don't get ahead in life because they're too afraid to take the shot or to stand out and they're sort of they just sort of go into the background but on Survivor I've spoken to enough players of Australian Survivor and Survivor of Africa before where the one theme that continues to be true is that if your strength out there becomes your weaknesses and your weaknesses becomes your strength so your strength might be you know you're normally a very you're a young beautiful girl you can get people

29:38 On side with you pretty quickly you're also someone that grabs the ball by the horns and you move forward but in Survivor that can be seen as a threat you know so it's always interesting how things like this works out but one thing like you said earlier it's just the she's dragging people along you know she's there's a reason that no one wanted to work with her in the first in the first one like she's not like Hey how do you feel about this what do you think about this idea for anybody who wants to understand that level of gameplay we had a great interview with Eden Porter from Australian Survivor who spoke about the subtleties of getting other people on board to think that it's their plan instead of you pushing that plan too much so I think that's something that she's lacking and that could just be because she's young kuna I mean we've seen something from Venus at least that I don't think I've ever seen in the history of Survivor is that there's a twers vote and they come to you and go it's between you and Mariah but don't worry it's Mariah and she goes that's stupid don't vote for Mariah Let's get someone else out completely like she had the heat off her it's between her and Mariah with he's the news he's the info she's like that's dumb don't do that like it and then we got a we got a iconic confessional or moment from Q where he's like wait V mad about V Mo he mad about V Mo and it's just like speaking he's speaking so fast I had to subtitle it I was like who's that

30:58 A different [Laughter] language J say Venus is Emily I don't know I like it's interesting be interesting to have they're very different yeah I agree there was another good comparison here where Gabe says I think she's just blunt like Eliza and Courtney y I think Eliza I could see a bit of Eliza on her in her definitely and Eliza was quite young the first time she played as well Daryl says that if Venus makes it to the end I can't see people voting for her yeah it'll be interesting Venus is Canadian that's interesting I didn't know that at all at Toronto not very Canadian Vibes not Canadian at all I feel like she should be from New York or something like that you know I think she fit in over there but read and do that what you may but I've heard like New York's pretty Cutthroat you know so I think she did pretty well over there but yeah interesting very interesting sort of seeing the opening Parts because when they get all to the beach Q trying to get all of these different alliances back together right and he's talking to them Mariah doesn't know what's going on suddenly he doubts Tim Hunter and Q immediately seem like they're hitting it off I think Q Hunter

32:18 Tiffany the likes of that's a very strong core in the game I don't know if Tim maybe shot himself a little bit in the foot here by being a little bit indecisive at the merge Jake because he had a really good position coming into the merge where he could have played both sides but by holding a lot of information too close to his chest and not actually sharing information here you know you can't go to the end with five people and now you're going to have four after this vote I actually think Tim may have sort of played himself out of a spot here in this Sixers Alliance yeah there I think the this whole situation with Tim shows just how complex Survivor can be because obviously he's not wrong for wanting to keep his options open and you know like you said kind of play both sides but the way he went about it is just not the right way first of all he doesn't even tell Maria about what happened at Journey second of all Maria is not even really his closest Ally it's Ben and then Tim isn't even really isn't at all actually Maria's closest Ally she was considering voting out Tim if they didn't think he had immunity idol so yeah and just the sea as a whole was pretty

33:39 They didn't really play this episode very well this vote very well with just not telling them anything or yeah or you know not really giving anything it's like okay you guys are sort of expecting us to work with you but what do we need something in return it's got to be reciprocal you know name for a name for a name exactly yeah but you just don't say name for a name you don't come out and demand it you just right yeah they both Yeah Tim wants his cake and some more Den saying Tim messed up I hope he didn't bring Mariah down with him especially since she knows about the alliance now she'll Spill the Beans to her people not a smart move I feel like Mar someone that has some game to her like I feel like she could possibly make those connections and get more trust from the q's and the Tans to a certain degree but yeah I don't know why I just feel like she's got she's got some legs still in the game Maria's closest to Charlie then Ben then him she basically said but Maria seemed open to this idea she like the idea of having options in the game so I'm kind of interested to know where she would go if you know her line starts dropping like flies like I feel like she would jump on that bandwagon pretty quickly to see if she can get a couple more days in the game but

34:59 A lot of conversations happening here I found it very interesting to see this D Dynamics and the camp in the early stages and then we go into what is going to be the challenge and at the challenge did you find it annoying like I did Kahuna that everybody was pretending like they didn't know what was going to happen at the challenge like oh wow only one of us is going to like be a merge oh wow only half of us is going to eat like this is literally what we've been doing for six seasons now why did we need to like act like we didn't know what was happening here Kun I mean soda's reaction felt genuine like they were like what like did I was and then she had to like Jeff okay please continue and they left it in the edit and stuff yeah I don't know like they're all fans so maybe they maybe all of them fans maybe there's no way they do it six seasons in a row like they have to change something at least once right like is enough they're like surely not again yeah Jeff are you new can too obvious yeah tell me soda being told what game is this yeah like what I was just shocked at how shocked they were about the fact that we're doing the exact same thing that

36:19 We've been doing for the last six seasons but the draw Jake was interesting to say the least like this was probably one of the most lopsided draws we've ever seen in Survivor right yeah I mean from the get-go it's like okay we already know what's going to happen I mean it's going to take a miracle for this scrawny tribe to or this scrawny group to beat the beat the big boys you know 59 oh I mean it wasn't like bad enough that we were all looking out to see which tribe Hunter was going to be on because we knew which tribe whichever tribe Hunter is on is most likely to win because he's like a beast that puzzles he's a beast that doing all of these obstacle course races he probably knows the most optimal way to go through everything on the challenges the one thing I will give them a shout out for and it's something that Kahuna pointed out last week is that they're starting to add like a subtle change to the challenges which we didn't have from the beginning of this season but by forcing different people to do the puzzle Kahuna here again at the end it really does even the playing field a little bit where you can't have like your weakest link sit out of the clutch position at the endend which this is a positive change that's Survivor us is making that I hope that they continue to expand on for future Seasons as well yeah huge difference maker where it relies on the entire team and not just Hunter he obviously still played a part he got the final

37:39 Most complex section and destroyed and we saw tein going Hunter's amazing a puzles which is such a red flag if you're Hunter like he is not managing threat levels at all he's just lucky that the guy that pointed out is his number one who shouldn't necessarily be pointing it out to the rest of the tribe how need to manage Threat Level if you just win everything that's true he's got an idol in his pocket there's five episodes left like he could he could easily win out here right like who's taking him out in the challenge with an either left if he has he's got one spare now like he can lose once is he gonna lose twice like I can't see him losing twice to these people well es yeah well it's funny it's with there being so many people I don't know how to put this in a very light way cuz I want to come across this route I know that Survivor 46 cast is going to come across and Hunt us down but there isn't that much high level of competitive people that are playing this season so I mean we could be surprised and you know Liz could just be winning everything maybe she was just lowering her Threat Level in this challenge when she was the anchor for her tribe going through the Nets but you know she could come from nowhere and suddenly start winning some things who knows but hunter this is what he's been training for his whole life is doing all these and he's not like Carson who just does the puzzles like he

38:59 He did a lot of the other things as well and he's physically extremely capable so I see Hunter is a massive threat and now that they've got the meat Shield lines going into the merge this is the perfect situation for someone like Hunter Jake coming into the merge because he's strength he's got strength around him with q and T and those guys yeah this is I mean first of all very good episode for Nami in general you know convincing yanu to take out sea which I think was the right play I mean they just were too at least to the to their appearances were way too tight-knit with Q Kenzie and Tiffany it was pretty clear like you gotta you gotta stay with nami because you can always take out Venus you know Nami will always be willing to eat that one of their own but Sega they are a tight group from what they're being told it was a unanimous vote last tribal unanimous vote you know so it's like so of course that's good for Hunter because he's now aligned himself with not only yanu but Q who is you know not a slouch at challenges himself you know he's not gonna totally take the target okaye

40:20 Kuna has got has got raising focus on him for his BMT so K has been going off in the last couple of weeks saying that out at the end when it's that's fair been better than him in challenges we saw Mariah pass him in the net today or this week I'm like yeah he's got all the skills but he's not shown it so far as Mariah a wipe out Champion like we didn't know that Mar was a wipe out Champion yeah come on you can't you can't fault Q there I mean he's going yeah he's going up against a Wipeout Champion what do you expect to happen no but you're right I mean the it's been brought up a couple times about how you know Q he doesn't have that clutch Gene in him but I guess just by appearances and by just convention I guess Survivor convention just seeing Q's body type yeah and you know age group you're like oh yeah that's a threat so Hunter aligning himself with him is good very good yeah doares says even put hunter in a competition he has not built or practice how would he do I could I would still put money on him I think he could do extremely well and apparently there's some recent tea about Carson on puzzles yeah I know about that yeah doing it oh sorry go ahead basically there's this guy that was

41:40 Before Carson season had been making puzzles kind of like Russell muscle does his name's outplay right yeah so he saw you know Carson get on the show and he was like oh I could partner with Carson and it would be mutually beneficial for both of us you know where you know I'd give him some you know cut of the sales and then he could help me promote it so they had a lunch in person and Carson apparently was asking him all these questions about like oh which puzzle is like your bestselling one you know this that this and that and you can kind of guess after their talk Carson blocked him on all social media and took his ideas and made it into his own business listen so faults on you for trusting a Survivor player let's be honest someone that goes and play Survivor that's all about out wining outplaying we can all I think we can all agree what Carson has done is legal well it's wrong but it's legal but very unethical very unethical and you know when you're when you're not in Survivor you know when this is sort of like this is more it's

43:00 Real you know that's sort of a real thing you know Survivor is just a game but so yeah hearing about that was pretty disappointing especially when you look at Carson and he's like you know yeah the Boy Scout he looks like the boy scout type you didn't expect something like that from himout he's going to be a very wealthy man one day I'm predicting you think you think that during that starting that this early he's like that and he's smart he's got he's going to make money yeah and it's also like not in the right way necessarily but he'll make money Carson's already sold merch he's already a freaking NASA engineer like you don't need any more money man come on like but yeah I think that I when you're taking I hate it when and I'll just read what darl said here really quickly never trust the Survivor player unless it's Taran played over in Australian Survivor as well so you know but yeah so I think that you know for me the worst thing is when you take advantage of fans like people who looked up to you because you played the game and we know that other players have done that in the past as well and we've been pretty all of us have been pretty vocally against it when that news came out so yeah not good but I don't want to talk about someone that's not playing this season for too long we all agree probably not the greatest look for him to be honest but going into

44:20 The challenge the underdog team really did put up a fight here in this specific challenge like I mean like you said did extremely well most of the girls did extremely well Liz definitely like I still don't know like the whole time I'm like why is she on this season like whose spot did she take on the season I know it's very rude to think that way but it's just like she hasn't brought value to me yet I know why she wanted to go on the season why that's 17 other people she can add to her email marketing list like that's you know she money she doesn't need it she like I mean come on like let's be real Liz is in the final three point I mean un unless you know hunter gets it going and he just can't be taken out so they're like let's just take out Liz you know just weaken Hunter but yeah it's we're not getting I mean did we even did she even have a confessional this episode I mean I don't even remember her saying anything about anything so yeah Irrelevant in the edit at this point they knew that Mariah would be the episode boot so they couldn't confuse by putting both of them like way too much way too much for the viewer it's just yeah too confusing

45:41 That's fair that's fair but yeah very good fight right until the end that it came down to the W on the puzzle which was surprising I was really impressed by the teamwork that the ladies showed with impressed by the boulder getting up that Boulder to me is impossible like I'm looking like nope we're done I could move that Boulder before I climb it and I want to say something yeah and I want to say something about soda because you know I've seen like again I'm not on socials all that often because I've got a very demanding job normally you know I'm tapped out by the end of the day so I can't be sitting on socials all the time but I did see some people going after her for like basically body shaming online and the pre merge part when it came to Twitter and which was just so sucky of people to do in the first place and I just want to put it out there like soda has not disappointed in challenges like she is coming to play like you can you can hate her for other things I don't know why like she's just someone that's very excited and wants to play the guy game hard and she's got a social game but one thing I will say about her like this episode she was not holding her team back like she was like the team also did a great job obviously getting her up and pulling up but she also showed some real strength like pulling Charlie up on her own and things like that like she's an asset to what whichever team

47:01 She's in so shout out to soda and it's really sucky that people still go that low to comment on people's physical appearances and things like that I just feel like it's uncalled for make it about the game not about something that is outside of the game but overall great performance right Jake from soda and the Challenge and also the rest of that group oh yeah for sure that entire group I mean like I said earlier when I saw the how the groups have been divided I was just like okay yeah just skip just skip the challenge basically you know but no they made it interesting yeah and I don't want to add to the flame like I and I'm not I'm not going to be a hypocrite like I haven't been the biggest fan of this cast and I think what's and it's not because of them who they are as people make that clear it's gameplay and it's what they're bringing to the TV show I haven't necessarily thought that they've been the most entertaining cast that I've seen and we've also got to remember that they're coming in with a very high bar because last season had the best cast of the new era so when you've got a season with probably the most entertaining cast and then you follow that it's very hard to keep the bar that high so just in hindsight it's going to drop somewhat you know but I just don't I'm not I don't condone people going after people personally and for things that's not game related to me it really doesn't it right with

48:21 Me kiwi says yes I think she did an amazing job soda has done better than some of the other girls girlfriend can hold her own I could see sort of going to the end and then I don't look at social media during the season as it ruins my enjoyment of the game yeah 100% every now and again obviously Ki because I podcast and I put Clips up on different platforms and things like that in those moments I will like have a quick browse see ah what's happening but I don't I don't live on that space we've got some fellow guests in the podcast room there with you Jake coming over to say hello to you I don't know if you notic what's going on you've got some oh yeah oh yeah they come in and out I know are they Survivor fans do they watch Survivor with you oh yeah every week every week they're like why do you put us through this every single season we've unanimous final tribal winner right there Del says I'm kind of embarrassed to say I've been comparing this cast to the Survivor Australian cast that I saw sorry it's not been fair but just can't help it and I think that is also a problem for people who watch more than one franchise it is a problem because you will do that comparison at times but again a lot of what happens in new survivor is almost not even the cast's fault it's just production and the way that they've put the show together and not innovating but we don't want to go down that robit hole

49:41 Too much on this podcast we keeping it 75% positive today like 75% positive from the podcast overall we do obviously see the boys winning Tiff made the right choice it was really a non-choice by choosing the boys for with obviously Kenzie locked out and with that like Kahuna like who would have guessed coming into the merge that yanu the purple tribe who had no luck this whole game all three of them would be a part of this group that is safe going into the merch like it could not have worked out better for them coming into the merge yeah I mean the people that say that you know luck isn't part of the game or if anyone makes that claim at all like holy crap like we saw yanu as far as luck goes getting put with jalinski Jess and baru as the three tribe members and then to have the luck of not only the Rocks here but like just to end up all three and be in a position where they are the deciding vote overall not only for the challenge but just the luck of being that middle minority which can decide between the two and yeah like we've seen it work before like last season happened the same way with the yellow tribe that was like kind of decimated at the start but they become the Swing Vote because the small tribe format again only two or three can make a

51:01 Massive difference when you've only got five on each side or whatever so the luck has come back to yanu and you know although we did see maybe there's going to be some cracks there as well so I'm excited by the fact that yanu is getting their come up their rise they're on the up but it has potential pitfalls too because when you're in the middle and you've got that power hey it goes to the it goes to the you know absolute power corrup and absolute power corrupts absolutely well we've seen a couple of Seasons now where the minority tribe gets into this merge situation and they find their way to the end and they win so you know if I was a player to play this game I would be looking out for that and saying we can't let these you know three people com to the merge and dictate what the two tribes are doing that kind of dominated most of the season so hopefully they're wise to it and they keep an eye on it but with Q really I think do like I do think that you know yes Q is playing hard again but Q is a big reason why yanu is in a good position right now and we have to give him credit like he's done the work who would have thought that bro moment that he had with Tim and Hunter would put him in a good position coming into the merge and really help with solidifying some allegiances going into the merge you know so Tiff has even taken a little bit of a back step to q and the edit this episode which Tiff has always I felt like

52:21 Been more of the driver in that Alliance but Q really did a lot of the driving this episode but let's not forget Jake Tiff's also still got an idol in the game one of the few Idols that are still Ida that was great yeah it's I mean that if those four Tevin Hunter q and Tiffany you know that's two Idols that they have there that's pretty crazy and tev's got an extra vote as well yeah so I'm trying to remember so yeah Sega there's no Idol there because Jam got voted out with it right it's just those two Dolores is asking okay tell me do you think this onion Alliance is going to work that's very big Braes I think that for some other reason I feel like it is I'm just doubtful of the Tim situation like even if they do get Tim in for a vote or two I think that there was enough crack shown by Tim being hesitant to share information and I think he came to the late to vot with them that I'm a worried for Tim and Mariah I'm going to tell you right now I'm going to tell you right now I think Tim's gone next week you reckon he's in the very next episode he's gone could be yeah I think I think it's very

53:42 Possible I think that Q takes things very personal right poting calling his shot literally calling my shot right there yeah Tim gone no seriously because I think that they're just like we're just not going to deal with this guy I mean like why because I think they're going to get too scared that like if we start sharing anything with this guy he's just gonna go blab to Charlie and Ben you know or even you know I don't even know that they really trust Maria I just think that the core that has been established is Q Hunter Tiffany and Tevin I think it's those for or I guess mainly q and Hunter I think are pretty solidified Tim is just not there I see going I'm just putting it out there I know people think Q's like I feel like Q's got even though he's playing see it either even though he's playing a bit aggressive and he kind of came back wanting to change the vote to Mariah because Mariah didn't play ball with him when they spoke I think it was at the Waterwell or somewhere when they were out walking and I think people maybe look at Q and say wow this guy is quite sporadic but I still feel like he's got the connections and he was upfront and honest about wanting to work with the and the hunters of this world that I just don't see them letting Q go

55:02 Yet like I think it disposable in a couple of votes maybe but it's too early to I think I completely agree I think that Q's play style might start becoming pretty grading you know honestly him his play style and Venus's play style not that far off confrontational demanding of information that's right you know like they're pretty you know and you know I don't want to Star anything but you know Venus has been pretty going pretty hard defending herself mainly saying that you know the others just don't like that she's a strong woman you know and I won't say anything about that but you know I feel like the Q andar I think you get back what you put out Venus has been putting is the only woman on this season yeah she's the only woman on there right that's strong and powerful and you know all that like Maria's clearly not strong and powerful Maria's a very beta female you know Maria you know so what she think about like T's not a strong woman clearly it's only Venus that's strong I just mean like strong I guess strong opinion strong what I'm saying more aggressive you know I think it's it

56:22 Is a bit more Q it wasn't really brought up but I feel you know his conversation I guess it was brought up slightly with Mariah that you know he was just like who's your favorite player you know like very just like tell me this tell me this tell me this was very interrog like didn't really didn't really tell her anything you know it was mly just like extracting information from Mariah I think but I think that tein and Hunter are too powerful I agree to let him go but I think maybe if they start to the power starts to shift away Q could totally be gone for sure yeah I def I see PA this week actually with oh because yeah because they're getting up yeah this is why I've left the comment up there because I've wanted to bring it up Jette pointed out it's going to be two people going so they're going to have two tribes so there definitely is a and this is why again another reason and we're trying to keep it 75% positive but why we doing this like why are we splitting tribes we're in merge we just want them all to be voting and for some gaml to happen for a couple of votes here now we're splitting them into two tribes again so that we can kind of control who gets power and Jeff has mentioned this before because he's trying to prevent

57:42 Anybody from really being able to have an alliance that can run to the end but that takes away from strategic gameplay and it brings a larger element of luck into the game so yes there is an unlucky scenario where Q ends up in a tribe without t and Hunter or in a group without T and Hunter where he suddenly becomes vulnerable maybe he's there with Kenzie and a bunch ofar right even with them like we saw in the preview Tiff and Kenzie having that conversation Q thinks he's in charge he's not right that's just one little hint but then you put that together with Venus her rant about we have to get a man out it's too many women we're going to get do if they as smart as they see they see Hunter they see Q they know what's going to happen in these challenges Hunter's going to win Q is going to be vulnerable the women go let's do something here like we can't let them dominate us for the rest of the thing I could see a path there I don't know if they're going to do it but I could see it happening because they should you know what I mean like they should not let Hunter and Q keep going further in this game especially when Hunter is as good as he is and Q is trying to control as much as he is we saw people going Venus is throwing too hard Venus is playing hard we got to get her out playing just as hard like Jake said they'll see it yeah no 100% but I think that you know you said there is a way

59:02 Even if he's not with t and Q but if he's with sorry with t and Hunter if he's in a split group with t and Hunter that's three of the six so he's not going in that situation I just don't see it the only situation where he's going is if he lands with a bunch of women in one section or with a bunch of the sear and again that is because of the fact that they're splitting them in groups right now I don't like that like but I do agree he's definitely playing very hard but I think the people that he's playing with like the tiffs of this world probably wouldn't want to let him go Kenzie I think is open to letting him going but Kenzie's quite close to TI Kenzie also in this episode was talking about the fact that oh the three of us are now in a good position we can move forward in the game like I feel like Kenzie is open to keeping Q for a bit like I just think that for a lot of people to let Q go right now it's too early it's too early in their game especially if you don't trust Tim especially if you don't trust Mariah like what are you doing are you suddenly going to go trust other people in that group that you've never spoken to like a Charlie or like a like who's the other person Ben like are you gonna go there like I don't know I just I just don't man yeah red let's see what people let's see what people are saying here the drafto Survivor favorite players are King George pavy and Caroline what a combination what a

1:00:22 Combination and there's some great players there for sure Gabe saying the double tribal councils usually one good vote and boring one so expect that next episode yeah denica says I can see Kenzie flipping on Q that's kind of what we've been saying Kenzie probably is a likelihood Q is not in charge nowhere near it no but they're sort of indulging at the trying to be yeah he it's just he's the coach he's the coach he needs to tell them how to vote you know hello says double troubles are the best episode The Naser boot was iconic in 41 Erica proving herself and winning immunity was powerful because she was unassuming yeah like listen I think it's not bad when it doesn't happen every single season it's the fact that they're doing it cons and this one specifically they've been doing well before 401 two like they did it in 40 they did 39 38 37 30 I think they did 36 like it's been going on for this is like 11th season in a row or something that they've done this so yeah it's time to move on it's time to try something different you know I just feel like again like we just get stuck into these habits when it comes to like whatever we're doing on Survivor and

1:01:42 And I'd like to for them to keep it fresh H says I hope we get an auction a key hunt thing like they did in 43 Cody found it and 44 Heidi did it affected the split tribal my understanding is we are not getting an auction at least I think Jeff's already confirmed that hello says Charlie remind they can't do it's too hard for him they can't get a they can't get a Podium it's too much yeah Charlie reminds me of that wealthy kid in class that thinks he's too good for us and hangs out only with white cheerleaders very specific it's very specific yeah I don't know the second part at all but definitely I can see how he reminds you of a wealthy kid I can he kind of had bit Charlie seems like a like a nice guy though yeah he does he does yeah anun says hi Chris Guna and Jake couldn't join earlier but we'll watch in full over the weekend or yeah welcome always good to have you on board even if you're watching it later on leave some comments with your thoughts and we'll respond to it hello saying and even though yeah can't connect with him that's Charlie's Vibes really I don't know I don't know like a I don't think Charlie's done that much that's been offensive at this stage or like the only thing with Charlie I feel like is that he really likes Taylor Swift he really likes Taylor

1:03:03 Swift he's good at CH he's good at Salsa he actually was very good at dancing I was surprised really like you like those he got anyy no well I mean listen I guess anything for a white boy like me I guess anything looks anything above average looks good looks good to me yeah I don't think he's winning so you can think Dan You Can Dance the next season like SC in interview Jim said that Q said that Jeremy was his favorite player when did I can see that when did Jem and Q yeah is this not on the it's obviously an off the cut would imag Q Jeremy was a really good player so that's really concerning I think that's his favorite player yeah that's his favorite player do you remember you remember Jeremy right he was really good so I think I think Q's gota go I can see it in his eyes yeah all right so obviously they end up having to come up with a name here and Mariah's going to be the person who ultimately is going to go like let's talk about it a little bit where did things go wrong for Mariah like Kahuna like if you were in Mariah's situation going into the merge like obviously we've got the comfort of our own home

1:04:23 We're wellfed you know we're thinking at full capacity here but you know let's say you out there like what lessons are there to be learned for future people that are going to go play the game with marah situation going into the merge understand where you are like she just came off a unanimous Blindside she didn't even have one single person that got blindsided with her it was just her left right against the rest of her tribe she and you said they did a really good job of trying to bring her back in and she didn't see that she needs to realize I am at the bottom I voted against Ben who's probably the most popular person on this tribe I'm kind of screwed right now and she didn't make any attempts until final trial Council like that's the weirdest spot to do it especially when you've got this time to start like V she's almost the opposite of Venus said I'm at the bottom of my tribe and yes she went very hard but she started realizing I'm at the bottom I'm making moves I'm going to make connections she went way too hard Where She Went I'm now the king I have all the power whereas Mariah was like I'm not going to do a single thing until final tribal and say that I lied to you Q which is like a weird Flex like she could have been laying that Foundation constantly with Q the entire way she had a one-on-one conversation with the man to lay out what you need and help and she

1:05:43 Couldn't know this but we know he's receptive to desperation and begging and like pleading for help like there were there's opportunities there and she didn't take any of them yeah he enjoys it he's like please come to me I will Coach you and he took that's literally that's literally what you need to do with Q just be like listen I don't know what I'm doing I'm so lost in this game I just need someone to show me the way you know and would be like need to be there needs to be some I will be so impressed if somebody on this season starts talking to q and realizes that and it's like whoa like I think I found my end with this guy like I can just sort of pretend like that I'm this helpless little player in this game and like he will protect me like that would be a baller move if we see that this season yeah and then they just take him out at the end you know like brutal blindsight you've trained me too well you know the student has now overtaken the master on the way to the end and then Q would vote for them if he's like you know what I would not have been at the NQ if it wasn't for your guidance throughout the game you trained me how to be a good Survivor player and ultimately you know that to take you out to the end yeah exactly it to the eag K it's the ego man that's all it is yeah I don't think anybody would play that game but yeah it was sad to see Mariah go this way it was sad for her not to have a Fighting

1:07:03 Chance because we all knew she was in the outs from the start but it just seemed like she wasn't aware of her own sort of I guess position in the game going into the merge which she should have been ultimately one redeeming thing for her is that she did play her shot in the dark even though it was unsuccessful she clearly knew that the votes were coming her way which that's always at least now for new players Jake you've got to wait to say I knew I was going home which looks like a bit of a flex even if it doesn't work out at least you can say I wasn't completely blindsided by it the edit can't make you look dumb for not knowing because you played the shot in the dark y you're right and I want to say you know what do you guys think even though Mariah definitely could have played this so much better but don't you agree though with kind of what Venus was saying that like why take out why take her out like you know not only because she was this comment literally exactly saying wasn't Mariah relatively weak why not vote out someone who is more threat before the merge so you go on exact that Venus I'm not gonna I'm not going to defend how Venus played but I think her idea to vote out Charlie or even vote out Ben I mean he Ben sort of seems like the glue of Sega social threat yeah

1:08:24 Like that guy everyone loves him Mariah said it Charlie said it Maria said everyone says like this guy is the most likable person I've ever met you know like are they it seemed like they were just laser focused on her when there were plenty of other options from Sega like by all means taking out any sea is not going to be a bad move you know weaken them as much as possible but like Mariah seemed like probably the worst choice of the three even like just even ignoring the fact that she was left out of the vote I think that she just wasn't strong of a player you know yeah it was it was bizarre I just thinky man yeah auy so yeah I think this is what it basically showed and this is like you know we've taken we've taken the Mickey out of Q for coaching her but what he said was still true if you listen to what he said like you had an opportunity prior to go into Tribal Council to let us know about this oh yeah now we don't know if we can trust you because timing and Survivor is everything you know when you're under the pump and you're potentially going home you will say anything to save your life so suddenly your word and what you say become less credible so if she went into the merge being like hey on the down low I'm completely on the outs here like I'm in trouble I've got no home I need to find people to work with

1:09:44 That was clearly the move and she didn't do it because she tried to stay loyal to the people who betrayed her because again not taking anything away from Tim and you know the rest of the seagar they did a really good job at convincing her that she was never the Target and they want to work with her to the point where she was rather going to be with the devil she knows than the devil she doesn't know but the timing was off so going into the M sorry into the tribal council and then letting people know again I think to have these live tribal councils it doesn't happen as often as we think like a lot of the decision was already made going into that Tribal Council of where the vote was going to go and it was just a little bit too late from her end totally agree but they had no idea that Mariah was in The Mastermind of that group you know because SGA didn't give them anything like they were TI lipped well Sega gave them Mariah right like at the at the wedding table like reward didn't Ben put her out there and then team back finally after hours and hours yeah so that's true and because they gave nothing else they gave no information they've been playing their cards close to the chest the whole time and being the vibe tribe she annoyed was enough and that was it were so yeah they were going to change it they were going to change it to Venus based on that they were like okay let's do a Venus rather because Mariah

1:11:04 May be on the outs and then Mariah's like oh no and that's another thing she did wrong like when your name's not up but you know you're one or two possibilities go with it like two more days in the game a lot can happen in two days and she was like you're not in a position where you can dictate you know where you want to go so yeah it was it was interesting it was an interesting inter into the episode I'm interested to see how the rest of the season is going to play out like you know obviously next week with the split groups I don't know how I feel about that going into it but there is enough Runway here now with 12 players all in the same tribe 11x it's just again refreshing to have more voting Dynamics come into play suddenly the stories become a little bit more interesting from this point yeah from this point onwards it's almost if we could just go back to having a two Tri format maybe it'll be a little bit more entertaining and the future but I'm definitely around to see what's going to happen but yeah thanks everybody for the live and thanks for jumping in on the live commenting taking part asking your questions we will be back next week and keep an eye on the channel I always post when we go live in advance so everybody can go and click on it to sort of see what times it's time slots it's going to be in because it may be an hour earlier than what we did this week I'm not too sure we've got daylight savings ending in

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