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Survivor UK Ep 9 & 10 Review

Podcast episode · 29 Nov 2023 · 1 hr 1 min

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0:14 [Music] [Music] n [Music] [Music] hello everyone and welcome back to the nullify Tech Channel here on YouTube where we've got the TNT text for you on Survivor UK W it's our first ever live here with everyone tonight and I'm joined by two very special guests we've got my number one Queen you know she's been by my side since day do UK she hasn't tapped and gapped like our mad boy Tom has been here the whole way through it is the queen V how are you what's I'm good what's up with you guys the we all good

1:35 Oh yeah that's true yeah no I'm doing I'm doing fantastic thank you but let's not forget V we actually do have a special guest with us tonight you know as I mentioned he tapped and gapped a bit earlier but hopefully he is here to permanently stay and to marry us both it is the great the wonderful the sexy the handsome Tom how are you can I request just a little bit less enthusiasm please I'm on such a hard time I can't I really can't it was a great week of sa it was yeah well I guess I'll have to like be as like nothing as possible just to match all your energy well Tom you unfortunately haven't been here with us for the last couple weeks you know your is it octalus or octopus something like the inter provider octopus it's octopus yeah it's octopus and then obviously you know you've been quite busy with work recently so just over these last couple weeks what has been your thoughts on Survivor UK for the rest of the Prem merge it's a show and

2:55 Yeah there's people in it so yeah see you everyone that's all from me yeah like I don't know I don't understand what's going on I like the cast for the most part like I think Tanuki tan yeah she's awesome Peg leg's a legend of course Lee lots of fun I think like I like pretty much everyone but I honestly think just man the music it just makes it feel not like Survivor at all it just feels so fake with like I hear TR I hear trouble come I love Royal Blood I love muse so the Muse's cover of feeling good but I don't ever want to see them Mitch mashed up with Survivor that's like getting like your favorite Savory food and your favorite sweet food and then mashing them together it's probably not going to work like it's just and then they go into like the tribal music after it's like you have like some pop rock song and then you have like I'm not going to try vocally emulate you got you got this oh actually no I'm not gonna do that either sorry I got a bunch of like instruments here that you know but I'm not going to do that yeah but yeah anyway I hate the music and it's kind of killing the whole vibe for me at the moment yeah I will actually agree with you on that Tom because

4:16 V you know something about strand survival which I personally love is the soundtrack you I feel like each track that plays really intensifies the situation builds up different you know character situations and it makes blindid feel very EP and I'm not sure about you but the music at Tribal Council is kind of like a lullab almost rather than like oh my gosh a big player is about to go home it's like just you know I've actually not noticed it you haven't that's that no I've not tripped over the music at all I really it's not bothered me at all you know the part where it bothered me the most when like okay so the loved one like the Love Letters like in Survivor there's this really beautiful like there's this really beautiful piano instrumental that they do in like sort of sadder times I actually know the composer who made all the Survivor music and like I hats off to him for making like such great Australian survivor music but like you know you got this nice instrumental that elevates it but then in the UK one like while these people are having like their they're reading their things you just got like this generic like really bad pop music

5:36 Like I will always miss you are my baby and I love you oh yeah just like that's not going to make me feel anything like there's nothing worse than like that sort of edge Sheeran esque kind of like oh like I love you and you love me too like that kind of like level of intelligent lyrics like going on in the background while someone's trying to like because Lee's story like I thought Le had like a really nice story in his love letter yeah you got but I love you baby in the backr and like oh my gosh like shoot me I mean I know but like yeah like Anyway also in terms of like from a financial standpoint it's actually cheaper for them to get a composer to write a whole bunch of absolutely yeah then to like so I don't know what they're doing they're putting a big chunk of their budget into just getting pop songs into the into it and it just you know on an island you don't have you don't have Triple M or 973 I don't know why I'm listing specific radio stations like mony's gonna know like M's gonna know what Triple M is anyway I didn't think anyone under the age of 70 knew what Triple M was oh well yeah anyway Mak

6:56 Me feel old yeah like yeah the there's no radio stations out on the island so no there's no Toxic by Britney Spears like there was the other week yeah like yeah something that Gabe brought up here was lot of the budget went to copyrighted music up there I absolutely agree so because we even have the auction and I just have to bring this up I promise this will be the last thing I sh on Sur k for but with the auction all the items look [ __ ] like the food was presented I was like what I never been on that V would you the SC the SC I would I would put my entire Budget on the scon I am a scones I don't know how they say SC I would that whole presentation of the of the scons and the sandwiches yeah I would have thrown all the money at that because that looked amazing but yeah the toothbrushes I was like come on the tooth toothbrush is like a common one like they've done that many times before but it was such a boring auction like no one really like tried to outb anyone like it was sort of like oh yeah and then

8:16 Oh no oh you can have it you're such a good friend and then the flipping host was like oh and guess what I've got another one who are you going to share it with I wonder who they're gonna share it with I was like oh I'm gonna share it with it was my friend who just gave me the gave me this thing for a cheap amount oh such a polite where are where are okay like I know there's like lots of like fancy like polite British people but where are all the like you know the people like at the at the pub at 3:00 a.m. was like oh glass you mate beer you want to buy that beer off me no 5,000 Dominican PES off whatever the currency is you know where are these people I want to see them on my t not oh yes I would like a thank you very much yes oh yes I'm glad there was a there was an advantage in the in the toothbrush that sort of spiced it up a little bit the sort of boring tooth no it was it no it was in the hair washing wasn't it yeah the hair wash yesir washing so there was a extra vote that was hidden no the extra vote was a thing secret it was that auto clue that was hidden inside one of the tows but was really that oh I thought it fantastic I absolutely loved it but yeah exactly what gab brought up still come

9:36 If nobody saw the scroll obviously out of Christmas but it's true it's like he even stood up at another point he put in his back like where else could he of putter while everyone's staring and they would have seen the cameras go like to his bottom as he's walking along yeah I love that I love it when someone gets a clue in plain sight has to figure out what to do with it that makes me real always love that yeah cuz there I know you haven't seen the earli seasons of the strali Survivor V but Tom you there's that great moment in Champion vs contenders where Shan found the idol at one of the individual challenges and as she was walking back and just fell out of her pants in front of everyone Fant oh and one of my biggest leads to one of my biggest heartbreaks with Benji convincing to play the idol on herself that was a great move no yeah it was but like we lost Matt as a result like that's true that and I'm just like how did she believe him like how did she like no oh no don't play it on Matt you're going home Sean play it on you I bet I get I better play it on me I guess he makes such a sound point

10:56 Oh my gosh we better quickly move back to Survivor UK Tom but we'll definitely have this chat again another point we talk about Str Survivor but you know something Sur UK is has been doing extremely well is I feel like they're getting the best challenges from American Survivor and just putting them all onto the season I feel like every Prem challenge was one of our like old favorites from American Survivor and even the individual challenges as well like we had the I feel like it's like classic one you have to like stand on that seesaw with like a heavy object on the other end and it's like you can't really you know break it and then also last scas V have you been enjoying the challenges so far oh well they've chosen the classics haven't they like the two most iconic looking Survivor challenges of like instantly recognizable to anyone who's watched any us Survivor just to say we're in the same universe we're in the same place don't get scared because of the accents we're on the same show yeah I think I feel like there's been a lot of in the challenges are picking up on the classics and you know not Reinventing the wheel which I think is really smart there's no need to yeah but Tom we did see that there was a kind of a Twist

12:17 On the last gas challenge which I'd love to hear your opinions on where normally they just start them off already in the water like you know like water's already up there but there seem to be like stages to the challenge for at first I like holding it quite high up everything was fine and then they kept lowering the gates or the bars more deeper and deeper did you like that they added this twist element to the to the challenge yeah no I definitely think the challenge is probably the best part of the this season so far and I thought it was interesting like I did I wasn't like against it or like for it but I definitely thought they could have just made bars and that would have also saved them a lot of money budget wise like this mechanism must have cost like a decent amount of money I'm guessing like why they just want to waste all their money like on things they don't need to spend like spend stuff on but anyway I still love seeing last Gast was one of my favorite challenges I've always wanted to do it myself I would you know put me in a drowning simulator any day of the week it sounds lovely so yeah so I was very happy and I loved I loved hearing Peg Leg explain how he how he won like with the drown not

13:38 Counting the sets I thought that yeah I was I was just thinking about how lovely it is to get drowned sorry yeah so yeah good on your peg leg you're a bloody legend leg you're a legend leg the I think I think in the Survivor version they've always just relied on the tide changing rather than moving the mechanism down I like how you said the Survivor version as if like this is surval version sorry you manag real one you managed to say something that's like harsher and meaner than anything I've ever said and I like I try to say mean things this is the Jordi Shaw version yeah well we do have a com here from G I love P screw his own plan by winning immunity he couldn't help it he couldn't well let's actually get into the vote so we had two blindsides this week two big characters going out back to back we'll start off with the first play V out Lee unfortunately Lee you know V we've been very high on Lee throughout this entire season what your thoughts on Lee figh

14:58 Against well it's interesting we went into the merge and then all of a sudden they were like right we're going to find out who's in charge here they had that absolute mentality and you know a bit of a pissing contest to start off the game the post merge and so sorry I wrote notes this time because every time I'm like I have no idea what happened I can't remember it from Sunday night but yeah it was really it I know it says you were the up there like I'm just looking up there for no reason yeah so it was a battle of the leaders and lines were drawn that you've got Lee and Chris and Ashley on the two camps and they were just rallying their troops and unfortunately Lee was on the wrong side of the numbers but as he stated probably not to the cast it seemed like he was on his own in the second episode he said his henchmen would go on which I thought I thought that was so cool yeah that was funny yeah so I'm curious guys did do you did you guys think Lee was playing a good game yes really I think he was I think he was I think there were definitely elements there I thought he was playing quite a good game yeah becoming after

16:18 You oh no after you Tom's got thoughts I feel like he telegraphed every single move like he was really honest but the thing is people still didn't like fully trust him even though he was so unbelievably honest like if you can be if you can be such an open and honest person and people still can't trust you that's a huge knock against your game he was also very aggressive towards people and red people the wrong way like he basically made sure that Christopher would never work with him again by yelling at him for that like that's terrible move he had Point yeah but don't like do it like that like anywhere like yeah it doesn't matter if someone like I going to say stabs you in the leg but no you can probably get mad at someone if they stab you in the leg anyway no it doesn't matter if like someone makes like a huge blunder and like it and puts you got put you puts you in your alliance at risk you still got to handle it the correct way otherwise you're going to get that person like on your bad side like if I yell at you for something even if it's completely Justified like they're probably not going to that person's not going to like me anymore probably and then and like I think sorry I was to say one more thing when

17:38 One thing he did do well when he was getting voted out was saying was bringing up how to n was getting targeted by Christopher and Ashley but well one he should have brought that up sooner address it with sooner to get her on side earlier but I think he also should have in the moment because he did save it to the very end he should have gone well if I'm the one lying if I'm the one who actually wanted to get tanuk out then what was I yelling at you about Chris because like I'm guessing a bunch of people here know that I yelled at you about something what did I yell at you about you trying to was about you trying to throw the challenge like make more of an effort to out them before he gets voted out because he should have he should have known at that stage that he was probably the one going home like a 50-50 coin toss yeah I think you know when I say Lee was a in my opinion a great player I'm not saying he's up there with your Davids your georgees your Boston robs and whatnot I'm saying he's a great player for the season right because like this cast is not very strategy heavy and I feel like Lee has definitely sort of capitalized on that as well as a few other players like T like a Doug like a peg League

18:58 And has been able to storm his way through the Prem merge but I do think his argument with Chris in the previous episode was actually his downall really well I think my whole argument for Lee was that initially and yes maybe the argument with Chris was his downfall he played excellent social game it's like what I was saying if you've got all the tribe if you're rallying the whole tribe with a freaking machete going we're going to win this yeah and everyone's just going okay yeah then you've done something right and I think if he'd continued that momentum then he could have had everyone eating out of the palm of his hand and he was trying to be the Godfather and everyone's dad but yeah but it just goes to show he's still had loyalists even after he got voted out yeah in pegle D yeah I personally felt that he was like out of the players who were left going into merge he was probably one of the worst players left but yeah but yeah each did their own and yeah I think the best thing the thing he was best at was throwing two people under the bus as he left and also finding a way to get the pillows seven nights in a row if he was able to like if he was able to apply whatever strategy he

20:18 Used to get that pillow for seven nights to a Survivor game he would have been the best player hands down yeah but I do I do think something well that works for him is you know this is something I had in mind for our reality TV squid game but since Tom hasn't seen it I'm not going to I'm not going to talk about it just yet but where Lee is obviously the most strongest player there like on the tribe so it's like if they got rid of Lee there's no way in how they're like beating Nathan Shai Lawrence Doug and pigl right so they kind of especially a one-on-one challenge as well like is Matthew going to go up against Nathan you get what I mean mat's no slouch he's no slouch he's pretty Prett tough yeah he's definitely not slouch but I do you think Lee's probably like your best most physical competitor to go up against someone like a Nathan what's the thoughts on that be sorry I just had a chopper go across say again so your thoughts on like they needed to keep Lee for as long as they did because he was like the and I honestly think that I think he still had incredible influence I think that's the whole reason that he was voted out was because there was two camps basically and Lee was leading one and

21:38 Chris and Ashley so I think he still had influence until the moment he was voted out he even had influence after he was voted out and I think he was kept because people looked to him for guidance or they didn't see it as the right time and of course they're strengthwise as well but once Matthew joined the group he's got an incredible amount of strength so it wouldn't be as much of a worry yeah exactly so the oh sorry I was just going to say I feel like it was a mistake on every on most people's behalf to take him out I think he was someone that was causing a lot of trouble that he's someone that you could easily turn the votes on whenever you wanted to I think would have been smarter to take out one of his henchmen that would have weakened him making it harder for Lee to actually be a threat like because it's a lot it's a lot harder to get all the votes on Peg Leg for example or one of one of Le's other like really tight teammates so if you manage to weaken him by getting rid of one of his henchmen like pegleg and then keep leing the game as someone that you can turn into an easy vote at any stage like you don't get the biggest threat out of the game at merge that's just a stupid thing to do and that's why that's another knock on Le's game it was like to me it was so obvious that people should

22:58 Have kept him around and he still found a way to get himself voted out because like I don't think he was ever going to win like if he got to the end like I wouldn't have voted for Lee he robon the wrong way he wouldn't have had respect from the jury I don't think so yeah they should have kept him in well I think the threat about Lee and the something that Gab brought up about Nathan how the challenges ared for Nathan types that he expects yeah gab expects that kuk is going to win more than Nathan I think that these challenges also heavily suit Lee you know he's like a is really good at you know endurance like mentally we've seen he's really strong so I feel like Lee like especially compared to Nathan I feel like Lee would definitely like has more of a higher chance of going on an individual mity streak are we watching the same show sorry I feel like sorry I had to everything you guys say but like every time I saw Lee like on a one-on-one challenge Lee would always get beaten in the challenge where they had to like go around the circle and catch the other team like he was carrying he was carrying less weights than the other guys even oh yes go yeah he was carrying less weights than the other guys in the water even though it was his plan to like drop off to just three guys and catch up to the other team

24:18 He like there's lots of challenges that I feel like he was like was not competing and even like he should have like I like I think would have been really strong but like I actually don't think he was that like great of a physical asset compared to on what he should be on paper like but I think he was holding a lot back to sort of not shoot his W too early on and for people to see him as that physical threat that's what I think yeah well I mean well we I we never saw him actually really be a physical thre yeah like yeah I mean he could have been holding it back he could be stronger than aie for you know but it doesn't matter if he doesn't use it yeah that's true I just want to say V I really enjoyed our podcast before we had this guy come along to startu get some good opin that's what I'm saying say the same for you but hey lik I'm sad Lee's gone I really he was one he was my top three favorite characters so yeah plus he's the it was his idea to do that stupid bag plan and he survived even after he was the one that came up with that idea he managed to handall that onto someone else I can't remember who so that's that

25:39 Skill yeah I think they had lots they had lots of like what's it what's the word like fat to trim or whatever Canon fod yeah can they had lots of Canon fod at the time yeah you know so agree or disagree so we do see Chris he gets a extra vote advantage of I happy to see that Survivor Kate is adding in different advantages into the game yeah and I think now the merge has started where we're often rolicking away into some classic Survivor proper Survivor gameplay and I love I think Chris is terrific I am Keen to see what he does now he has no friends and if he can survive that I still pick him as one of the top three if he can survive being the only one left on his own little tribe then that's pretty spectacular but all signs point to him going next week yeah but you know he could back what's his extra or his Idol that expired after

26:59 Three tribals ah maybe the extra vote I'm actually surprised use the extra vote in episode on Sunday Night episode whatever it is because that was an important vote like he needed to get Lee out across the line to although it was all for nothing because Pig leg there was enough people that were pissed off by the whole situation but I'm surprised he didn't use it and didn't see that as important enough vote but so now he's got that he can hold on to it'd be better if he' held on to his Idol but yeah you know well keep in mind that like he probably was very confident or almost like 100% sure that he had the numbers on that Lee vote I mean I mean we're seeing an edited thing so I feel like they're trying to make it look like a like a is it this way or this way kind of thing it probably was always going to be Lee like without a doubt and you know obviously he had to use the idol the next episode so I mean yeah I think he's doing the best with the bet he's made I was yeah I got the extra vote like thing all ruined for me though I went to click on I clicked on episode 9 and it gave me it said episode 9 and everything but it was giving me like the recap

28:20 Like from episode 10 so it's like oh my gosh last episode we saw the auction and Chris won the extra vote and I'm like no I didn't see the auction no I didn't so then I had to go back and watch man 10 play is terrible I'm just saying it I had to go back and watch number episode eight like I just sort of fast forward through it just to be like yep that's definitely yep I've seen that one so where's the merge episode and then I went back to episode 9 and it worked just fine but like w with 10 playay for those who don't know you get like the ad like the mandatory ads and I'm just like yeah the ads are and they're so just shoved in there at the wrong spot like halfway through a sentence it'll go to the ad like oh my gosh yeah whatever you know it's not the worst interface but on Australian streaming but it is also one of one of the worst nine plus or whatever it is the worst interface you could nine now that could possibly come up against yeah I yeah I think I was a bit like not keen for the merge episode because it took me 20 minutes just to get in like actually onto the merge episode and then and then when it came like to tribal just for about three the votes I got I had to do something like urgent so I didn't even like really enjoy the episode so yeah like you

29:40 Can't pause the ads either did you know that if you try and press pause while the ads are playing it just won't pause no you can pause them but like no well it wouldn't it won't for me like I press pause and it like and it just keeps going it won't let me do anything oh that's unfortunate and it's just little things like that ruin my day well I'm not one to brag but I've got no ads cuz I've got very special private links to oh yeah you yeah no you know you guys are stuck with the ads you know that's your problem yeah this sounds legal this sounds very legal it's only up at least it wasn't yes G God I can't stand the loved one letters I can't it's just I don't give a [ __ ] they're only away for like 30 days it's like they're going to war loved one letters can be good if you actually have good music behind them and you edit them well like for example Josh from blood verse water the guy who was you know he was rivaling Mark the entire season yet he still got yeah completely under edited he had an amazing like love letters moment like when he found out his wife was

31:00 Pregnant like through the love okay that I have a Johnny Fairplay moment and I'll probably write that I'm pregnant even if I wasn't I plan on using the Love Letters strategically like I'm G to I'm going to tell my people what to write like well you know Tom I'm not I'm not sure if you saw but in AUST strali five all stars there was a uncut loved one scene well when no it was cut there was a deleted scene of with Luke yeah and laked told David that his dog had died and then he wrote he wrote underneath P don't worry your dog isn't dead but maybe you can use this to get some sympathy other players oh I can't believe I can't believe they cut that with all like sometimes Australian Survivor feels like torture like depending on depending on the season and like if there if there's nothing interesting happening like they have plenty of space to cram a funny moment like that and I can't believe they didn't do it for the winner David you know yeah exactly Luke Toki yeah and especially because they were like the number one Duo from just the previous season as well like everyone would still

32:21 Remembered those two are probably in every single Australian Cy fans top five like without a doubt well not mine because you got your sneaky Steves you got your roges got your H and your binges you know but let's get back to Survivor UK so we do see that the whole tribe turns against Ash and Chris in The Next Episode V do you think it the right time for them to flip to take out Lee because I don't think so for in that first post merge vot to take out Le I think they're making a statement I think Chris is all about statements I think he's all about being flashy and making big moves like a bull in a china shop so of course taking out his sort of rival of course that would be his first move yeah he does something flashy and then he gets in trouble and that's why I think if he survives next week then it's working for him because now he's in trouble so he's got every against him so he's got to work that like they said on the aded charm offensive to get some people back on site but I think yeah it was a flashy move it was the right kind of flashy move for Chris for better or worse and I love it when the

33:41 Big flashy moves happen I love to see moves that go wrong I love to see all that happen otherwise you've just got the game bots on us Survivor that are too so paranoid they're too scared to do anything really yeah now that's such a really good point because cuz Tom I know that we've talked a lot about you know big blindsides and big things we would like to do when we eventually go on the show but I feel like sometimes that there is a time and a place to make these moves and I feel like the first vote of a merge because what we clearly saw was Chris and Ash made this move but you know you got original koton which are still very tight together which maybe they're playing up the fact that they aren't tied together and we're just not seen that but there you still got all these other big ginormous factions that sometimes it's good just to pick a couple off so then when you do make that flip it's not like a behemoth of numbers you're going into what's your thoughts on that Tom well I think I think my favorite merge like vote out like at least in terms of like strategy and like what I would like to accomplish myself is Boston Rob and Redemption Island like that is the ideal merge boot you know just like oh we don't know they

35:01 Have an idol we don't know who they're going to play it on we have this we have this wishy-washy guy in the middle let's just vote him because they're never going to play the idol on him and then we've established the numbers majority and we burn their Idol and it's just like everything about that is like the most Masterpiece merge episode ever like I mean I know a lot of people hate on Redemption Island but it's got like at least three amazing episodes and then it's got little tiny bits here and there that are like that are okay and good and then the rest of it's just like you know medium level Survivor in my opinion but yeah that's like the ideal merge for me taking out someone that won't hurt you but it also puts you in a better position than the other tribe or the other Alliance yeah absolutely but as I mentioned earlier we come to the next episode and you know Lee he could Chris and Ash out for them you know wanting to throw the challenge you know to go to T and leani Matthew they do you know sort of fight back against Le about how he wanted a all male an all male Alliance and to lead with that which that is something that's been brought up on the show that you know the number of women that been F out and ren has been you know really sad to see V

36:21 What's I guess I guess what's your take on all this really about I guess Le's plan on just on just getting as much Mals together and like challenge threats and going far into the game I mean I didn't personally see I know that was I didn't personally see much of that I don't think I think I said last week I don't think that was in Lee's gameplay I don't think it's a smart move to have any sort of gendered alliances I think people get their backs up and it's just you're cutting down your options completely and I think everyone knows it so I think I while I love that you know tanuk said that I just can't vote out a woman this time all that stuff all that stuff is great fantastic but I don't think anyone is going is consciously making a any sort of gender Alliance I don't think anyone's quite that stupid so you know this is in the early 2000s when you could get away with so yeah I didn't you know I think there were a few misogynistic things said as jokes that maybe came off Paul were a bit rat rot but I think at the end of the day everyone could recognize

37:41 That both genders there was so much strength across both genders that there was really no point in trying to get anything going of a gendered Alliance at all even the girls I know leani lot of them have been saying it but I think they just realized that you're cutting so many options and there's really no point yeah exactly CU you the next episode yeah we do see that Ash you know she really does want to make this old Women's Alliance work but there's just so much trust that's been broken you know where Hannah is on one side on her own Ash is on one side on her own you got T Le together so it's like how can they all really make it work when then all these different factions and groups like you just you just can't unfortunately yeah and I know she tried to have that heart tohe heart with Leilani and tanuk sort of a I think as tanuk said a too little too late yeah after the whole everything blew up at tribal and I think you know she was trying to be you know Sister hood of the Traveling Pants kind of thing but yeah it just wasn't pulled off effectively and she needed Chris so she was never going to go be able to go full Women's Alliance without betraying Chris so I could see that Ashley and Chris were sort of going to stick together as long as they possibly could

39:02 So but yeah the whole Sisterhood R ra thing just came a little bit too late yeah absolutely Tom you we do see the whole tribe terms gam Ash and Chris here do you think that there's anything they could have done to get themselves out of the spot well I may have fallen asleep during the strategizing so I recommend if I was them don't fall asleep during the strategizing that probably won't help you yeah they could they could have dressed up as maybe pegle and tanuk and then they could have dressed pegle and tanuk up as them and then they would have voted th those guys out instead would have that's a strategy there oh I know Ashley could have said guys I'm Rachel what why are you guys getting mad at me like I mean they look the exact I couldn't tell the difference between them like in fact it only dawned me in the last episode oh this is the person that I was like getting confused with the other person oh look at that go she's actually doing all right and then she has voted out so yeah honestly after you Tom I know I had no other words to say I was

40:22 I just kept on talking do you think that there's anything they could have done to get out of the spot oh as I'm looking at my notes of like where the it was I think peg leg and Doug are just they're really strong and they're very influential and I don't know and I feel like it was a real Blindside they thought they had the numbers they talked to everyone I don't know what they could have done maybe played the extra vote that would have changed things maybe well I don't know something that Gab brought up here is if Christopher wanted to save his Idol could vot for Ashley and a predict for next round but at the same time you're not sure exactly where the numbers are going is it going 53 is it 44 cuz you don't want to five won your out of the game is Ash vote for you as well I think it's a great move Gabe and do we all know who the first person who ever did that in SV history is no Gabe isn't

41:42 An embarrassing we're with a bunch of amatees here seriously I know it was Alex from season 14 Fiji when he voted out he put a vote on mooki I believe to give himself another round in the game anyway Tom's education time is over thank God you're here man thank God yeah well of course he could have done that and then you know then he's going into next week with the idol and everything but oh I don't know I don't know if that's look either sorry to disturb the conversation but Tom is that a real bow tie or a fake bow I lit can't tell huh it's real thank you very much made in Denmar n that's not real no on second guess that's not real yes it is mar look it's absolutely real it's absolutely real look at it tell that to the denmarkian seriously that's offensive all right Tom I want you to go like this with your bow tie and more would that prove that I have I don't I don't that I have to that I have bow down to your commands just CU you're just CU you're the

43:02 The host I think I will you should respect your visitors your guests my guest well do you know what respect I'm about to give you bro b he's been he just got he [Laughter] just oh he did a squid game there he did he did he had gapped it but oh he's back he's back okay came up and don't disrespect [Laughter] me see it's because you tried to over the H I had I had to cut up your perfect your perfect comeback moment I'll give you that one for now yeah something that the gab has brought up is now did walking and this L and make a move not just control of the game what do you think could happen next week be do you think Tanuki Alliance not pegle Alliance and Doug I don't I thought pegleg and Doug were calling the shots not Tanuki well what numbers does d p have because tanuka's got Nate she's got Matthew leilan is there and even though Lawrence recognize was on the bottom

44:22 Still seems like it's still tight with them and what this nine people left so that's five the majority and Doug's Idol has expired I think what I don't I think Chris should do is he should use his extra vote as a as a token of trust he should say if you get me through the next two votes I'll give you this extra vote and be like to whoever he wants to work with the most or it feels can trust it's a h Mary but that's all he's got yeah I well I think that another thing about I feel the move to vote off Lee was even worse now simply because I don't think anyone from that five will break I think if there's one person who will break it's Matthew because we do see him talking about you know Nathan being a bit of a threat but I really don't see the five of them breaking anytime soon so now they're at a five and I guess I guess Hannah with d like a 53 and a one which extra votes can only be used once so it's not like they can use it in a r to draw RS or anything well I think Matt was would be a good idea because he was also having a discussion about getting out Doug yeah so it could be

45:42 A way to get something going with him and sort of look at that breaking up that Peg Leg Doug tusome because I think Peg Leg orchestrated this whole move on Chris and Ashley I think there are a lot of people influenced by him yeah I think yeah gab's right it could be sort of a tanuk versus Peg League Alliance now and Chris is just going to be holding on to survive because I'm just looking at my notes that's why I'm looking down because Doug's Idol was only good for three tribals which he the J vote the shy vote and the Lee vote and now it's completely expired so unless a new Idol they potentially find got he could still use it though I mean like it looks the same as Chris's one right and like as if these like these Survivor cavemen are going to know oh no that's an expired one show us the note we don't believe you like yeah if I was him I'd try I'd try and leverage it somehow and that's why I was saying with like with Chris like if he can somehow leverage his extra vote to get in with some people and then try his best to vote out maybe

47:03 In the next two votes his two biggest of in terms of challenges like then he can potentially attempt to go on a run like an immunity run like if Chris got rid of like Doug and oh who would you say like the next best like the next biggest maybe tanuk or Matthew in terms of like physical threats I feel like Christopher could like be the favorite to win almost every challenge probably especially when it comes to these individual ones as well chrisop we do see like Christopher is a great allrounder in almost all the challenges except for the one that he tried to throw yeah well if this a cat will challenge we know that Chris got in the bag yeah sure so Tom what is your thoughts coming into next week sorry I'm reading gab's lovely messages so I think that I will probably fall asleep again at one point or another I think it's going to be predictable votes and yeah I think they'll do some great

48:23 Challenges some terrible music choices and I'll have the exact same opinion of the Season yeah what was going to say what was I going to say yeah I think there's a lot to come next week I think we're going to get one big Blindside which I feel like it's going to set the C for the rest of the game what's your thoughts on that v as I would love to see Chris find a way through that would make me really happy and yeah Blindside or not you know you know I don't know I don't see him making really big flashy moves but although he could that he's a big flashy guy so if anyone's going to do it's going to be him to stay in the game I like Tom's idea of use yeah getting trust with someone by using the extra vote maybe he'd be smart to have a look at some other people who are have eyes for other people and yeah so I mean who knows everyone loves a Blindside and they can't seem to do a vote without one so yeah and know knows who knows I guess now that we're here and you know the m just happen who's both your winner picks you go Tom my winner pick yeah I someone

49:44 That is still in the game I don't have one you know you don't you have to pick someone right here we're making our decisions yes Wow first you hate on Denmark now you force me this is feels like n 84 all over again I refuse to give you an answer now that you have besched my name like that good day sir well what well what if I was actually the roller of Denmark I knew it that's not trust the ruler of Denmark is way classier than you good day again well I ask I'll ask you V since we got Mr you know I want to keep my before my laptop dies out here okay I Chris I want to see him find a way through somehow if he can survive the stuff he survives then he's going all the way through the end I think tanuk is a force of Nature and I'd love to see her go far and I think Le leani will come along as a goat yeah not the goat a goat yes I completely agree and she's very and g a good point that the best players left are T and Doug I absolutely agree would it's actually Tanuki

51:06 Or I think is it I can't remember tanuk T wouldn't that be yeah that would be interesting if you've got an interesting name if before the vote everyone starts going how do you spell your name oh no one cares about think's names right I'd probably go out of my way to's names wrong like if I was Voting out someone called I just put like a w and like a v in there somewhere well something they're like doing in Starbucks is I like going up saying it's Michael with the Z I see them where the Z goes yeah it's so funny so funny but oh I completely forgot to bring it up Ash poor Ash so we do see that you know Chris he kept us onto the plan and he knows that and Ash he plays y for himself and we do see Ash go home V what's been your thoughts on ash this it's a shame she shame she couldn't get what she wanted and get her perfect Alliance going you know it's disappointing but you know I thought she had great potential but I think there are more compelling individuals in the game but yeah it would have been nice to have seen a

52:26 MC Beth lady MC Beth kind of Alliance happening but it wasn't to be yeah no I really liked Ash this season I thought she I mean I knew right from the premiere that she was going to be like a big strategic player but then she was immediately put on the bottom but I love this whole Underdog Story with sort of got how she was working her way up in the ranks to the point where she was in his big Power position so I'm really sad to see a go I'm quite I already know what Tom's going to say about Ash he's going to say who what Ash I'm actually I want to correct Gabe so next Australian survival we're not going to see mcky spelled weird we're going to see it spelled weird 11 times because everyone in the tribe so yeah but yeah look Ash Rachel I don't know same thing I've kind of those was like the first three episodes I couldn't tell who she was and then the next three episodes I couldn't tell if it was Rachel or Ashley who got voted out and then after that I don't know she seemed like yeah in a decent spot and then she I say she died no she disappeared she voted out yeah I don't know

53:46 I didn't really take any notice of her the entire time not to sound mean Ash I'm sure you're a lovely person but you know I've fallen asleep I think six times in this show because of the music so it's not your fault well all I got to say is that so far I've been really enjoying survive UK Tom sayy keeps falling asleep but then as I keep ring up he fell asleep during the Ahsoka shows it really is his taste even good worst show ever oh my gosh boys I can't do this again I cannot go through this every episode what's separate you two oh Ashley was the one who got injured was she the one with the hand oh I couldn't do my hand was I thought it was Rachel oh there you go I know I love that the merge is kicked in I think the we're getting into the real nitty-gritty of it I don't trip over the music as much the music doesn't bother me I even blocky ears Tom I been quite like the music so you know I think it's great and I think I'm really living to see Chris actually which is you know he's now going to get voted off but

55:07 I just love his wildness in this whole game and so I hope he finds a way through it's been extremely entertaining this wholeway through so I really hope that he does somehow scrape and find his way if Shai can somehow make sh if Shai can almost make it to the mer Mad Dog shy Mad Dog shy the Strategic Mastermind of the whole they mentioned it at the first episode as well going oh my gosh thank God Shy's gone he was crazy yeah and L was like happy she was clapping and everyone's like yes sh's gone oh my gosh nuts and we saw none of that have faith the never know Christopher can survive I think he's a force if he does survive against those odds I think we've got to put him as one of the top players of the season if he can get through that Maze and talk his way out of it without winning immunity or something but also if he wins immunity twice that's also very impressive so yeah I mean that's why I'm hoping for Gabe I mean it's not necessarily about like going from the direct bottom to the top but it's all about like managing your way through right you like we saw in

56:27 Yeah because we saw in Haley with versus BR when she got voted out she didn't go straight back to the top she was sort of in the middle pretty much the whole way through into like the final eight or final seven then she was on top with George again but yeah sometimes you do just got to you know just float for a bit and then bam comes try back out you know on top yeah mean manage way to the end I don't think you can become one of the best players of the season if you've find a way to get yourself as like the Public Enemy for Everyone by what final 10 yeah like you've cleared them if you can pull yourself back because that's the thing he's a bll in a china shop right big flashy moves and everything but if he can do that recognize that and pull himself back then chef's kiss it'd be a great like save yourself before you're gone but like you're still not that's not good or anything you know yeah I always judge if someone can save themselves in a vote Against All Odds and yes the edit does play into it that to me puts them into the one of the higher tiers of the season in my that makes them even better than the person who was never targeted in the first place because they managed their Threat Level the entire time

57:48 Yes okay yeah so I'm standing by that okay like Haley like Haley she even got voted out for Pete's sake and then she came back that makes her a bad like she didn't deserve to win because she got voted she lost the game oh my gosh like agree to disagree agre to disagree she I mean she didn't play that season well she's a great player but and but she pulled herself back it's because it's because she was on a she was on a season full of Survivor fans and they just voted for her over George because they didn't like George and they like they preferred her as a human being that's what that's why she won like that's actually fact well confirmed we're talking too much Australians over here one last comment from game poor shy he's just a Survivor super fans old fashion gameplay so we had a deal that yeah if Shai was like a strategic Mastermind you know and he could his way through then I would buy you and your partner and you whoever else wants to come tickets to go watch the new win the Poo Blood and Honey sequel which comes on Valentine's Day next year yeah we do see that

59:08 He did pull off at least one move and getting rid of Jess so Tom and V it's up to you it's up to you guys do you think that's worthy of a winning the blood and Blood and Honey ticket but sh no he technically made one strategic move so this is just V saying she doesn't want to watch the movie it's like no Shai or what the person who made it to the very end and won unanimously and play the perfect game no he is not a strategic Mastermind no don't I don't deserve those tickets please no I don't I don't go to movies so W no I'm kidding I'm pulling a Mony when he said he to a girl he doesn't eat get out of a date gosh don't personally exose me like that but U unfortunately that does bring us to the you know the end of our podcast I just want to say thank you both so much it's been a while since all three of us have been finally reunited you know with the octopus WiFi and Tom being at

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