The Amazing Race 35: Episode 2 Review

0:13 [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] welcome back to the NFI Tech Channel on YouTube where I've got the TNT takes for you on The Amazing Race 35 episode 2 that's right I am your host Chris and with me today on time I should add as well is Michelle we got it right Michelle how I'm inside I'm not being attacked by mosquitoes yes we're not letting you're not putting your skin at risk you know there's no skin in the game today how have you been how have you been since the last time we spoke good well you know Aussie race started so yeah covering that as well now so both races at the

1:33 Same time and watching Survivor and I hear Survivor UK is coming out in a couple of weeks so yes Madness a lot absolute Madness and I was just talking to you prior to this because I started a new job this week so that has kept me busy because I'm having to learn a whole new industry while still keeping up the podcasting and I was saying I think I need to do less shows in the coming weeks and then you drop the whole Survivor UK thing on me I forgot about it there's too much on I just can't I just can't yeah not at least I'm not working right now I'm on holidays but you know I start next week Traders Canada oh Andre when does that start that starts I think it's like very soon it may even have started this week already I do know that luckily I don't cover that here on the channel Andre that is why watch it I know I know I've got my I've got my dedicated lieutenants in both Kahuna and maky who are stepping up Kahuna is doing the show with Michelle with Verity and also with Tom and yeah that's a great I think quadrant of you sitting together on that one there I had a lot of fun watching the tail end of your preseason analysis and I'm looking forward to seeing what you thought of the first episode I haven't actually seen it yet I have to at some stage backtrack and go watch it so

2:53 Don't spoil don't spoil in the live so two episodes yeah K you're killing me Michelle like and THS I'm not going to have a weekend I'm not going to be able to have a weekend but everything is an hour and a half now so when it's condensed down to watching it on replay it's only an hour but seriously that's Survivor an amazing race and our amazing race is all an hour and a half now so it's so much more to watch rough that's going to be rough let's say hello to Andre Lee officially and Andre Lee thank you so much for the five New Zealand Dollars you're definitely well appreciated here on the channel you do drop quite a bit of tips and I and I really appreciate it goes straight into the channel as we continue to grow it here like you know Andre Lee says The Amazing Race 35 contestants getting to keep the five buckets of pamelo and then them being sent to their home address would have been so much fun to watch if it would have been fun if Joselyn and Victor got to the end and Phil was like guess what your prize for this one is you get to keep the pomelos Michelle you get to take that home imagine they would have been so oh no you had one I haven't and I'll talk to you about it just after this Danica I know you're not going to be listening to this right here on the live but you're saying 5:30 a.m.

4:09 Is a bit early over there in the US 7 a.m. I can do on a weekday but earlier than that is pretty hard for you I get it at the moment due to the very reason that I just mentioned we've got time zone differences we just had daylight savings last week so everything that we normally do moves an hour earlier on your side now because of the daylight savings I don't know why we have it but you know I'm new to Australia so I shouldn't be complaining they may kick me out of the country for saying something like that but you know I hope you do enjoy this when you when you watch it later on it's still much appreciated you know so leave your comments get a notepad ready and let us know what you agree and disagree with afterwards we will read it I promise you yeah I haven't I haven't had pilos I was actually confused when they went into the grocery Market just with some like I don't even like there was jack fruit I've never had jack fruit before they've got like special fruits there that I don't know well yeah I've heard of a lot of those fruits because you know jack fruit and durian and things like that I've heard of them all before durian is the fruit that actually smells like poo apparently it's really delicious to eat if you can get past the stench of the smell I when they were going to get pomelow I thought they were going to be T tamarillos I thought they were going to get so I thought they were the small ones I don't think ever seen

5:30 Anything that large in my Supermarket like to get a pomelo I don't want to try it now though it looks really good so I mean at some point hopefully I will get to go to Thailand like it's one of those places that I have put aside for a long time I just so happen we won't talk about what company but I just so happen to work in the travel industry now so who knows I may at some point I might be able to go there and experience it I feel like it'll have to sort of come with the territory of what I'm doing but let's start off at the beginning of the race here we have and I asked the question here Michelle to the live audience and we'll definitely check in a little bit later on again because I don't think we've got too many people here at the moment but we do have a couple of votes that have sort of come in five votes already I asked do you like to return to the different start times for teams based on their placement for each leag because if you remember when we were in the co period we had them all starting to give it in blocks I hated it previously it was a necessity just like char planes and things like that to see Joselyn Robin Cory Greg and John in the beginning of the race here they're all starting sort of in the placement that they got there also the lead that they gained from the previous episode what was your thoughts on that I love that I love that they're doing that in the Aussie one as well so I love that they're all going at the times

6:50 That they arrived because it just I don't know it makes it more authentic more old school Amazing Race yeah I agree I'm a big fan of that to me some people say that the competitiveness is taken out of it because you know people can build up a lead I actually want decisions to have consequences if you're taking a risk if you're making a risky move which I'm going to have some hot takes on teams that I think could look good right now but there is a potential for them to make some mistakes in the future and we'll talk about that a little bit later on but I like the fact that if you're making a mistake it's going to count against you and that there is going to be consequences for that personally Doo says I have jack fruit as part of lunch nice there you go Dina whereabouts are you situated where do you get jack fruit it' be interesting to know if you're somewhere in one of those Asian countries or if they you know import it I guess that their name looks Asian actually does it does says I wish they had to do an eating challenge instead of doing a grocery shopping but apparently it tastes good you said yeah apparent I haven't had it but apparently it tastes good but it just smells absolutely disgusting there you go Jak Indonesia nice so it's definitely something that is sort of towards

8:10 The that region that you get those fruits and it's always interesting to see what you get in one part of the world is so different from another part of the world as well even with globalization better ways of doing exporting and importing these days I don't think we get jack fruit here I haven't seen it unless I'm wrong I've seen it in Sydney it's really it's spiky it's really spiky yeah right but it might be in the Asian supermarkets more than just like your big chains you know yeah that explains it because obviously this leg was made for Joselyn and Victor like again my goodness yes yeah did they who did they like I don't know how this race was sort of you know how they decided what leg is going to be where but it couldn't have been a better start for the both of them because they had two legs in a country where one of them understands the language pretty well speaks it there's a small difference in dialect but it's probably like we've spoken about this in the past I speak Africans which is a form of Dutch people call it kitchen Dutch so if I was to go to Netherlands and if we ever did a leg together Michelle that would be where I would have to carry because I would understand a lot of the language I would understand I'd say probably about 80% of what they're saying and there'll be like certain words that would sound a bit strange in old school to me but I'm assuming that's it's like for

9:30 Someone like Victor so it just gave them such a leag up because no one else had that Advantage going into this league and I saw that someone actually was having a go at them having the ability to speak the language and is it fair you know that one team can and the others can't well sorry it is fair if you're intelligent enough to know several languages good on you I mean you can't you can't penalize someone just because they know the language how many times have the American has the American race gone out and they can speak Spanish millions of times because that's what they you know they learned that in school over there they learn a lot of Spanish in school I don't know a word of Spanish except for maybe one to 10 that I learned on Dora Explorer it's just it's something it's an advantage and I don't think it's a it's penalizing anybody else but if you have it and you know it good on you and it's not going to be an advantage for the whole race it's I'm they're not going to stay there it's the Amazing Race for a reason they go to other parts of the world where that's going to become less of a thing but I do think Joselyn and Victor they do have a lot of things that stand out for me that make them a very strong team this season obviously navigation they're good at that they have to go to n nag patang Patong I don't know

10:50 If I'm pronouncing that right but in that area there's over 40,000 temples and when they mentioned that Michelle I knew 40,000 temples someone's going to get it wrong like I mean what's the chances that all of the teams all 12 of them are going to go right to the right place and Greg and John they did mess up a little bit here in the beginning because they do end up going to the wrong place yes they did yeah there's so many temples over there they're literally on every street corner they're just everywhere and you know the names are very similar they might just be one word indiff so yeah it can be tricky what I actually coming back to what you said about Joselyn and Victor I loved what he said he said when he came into the race he said we're not going to be the strongest we're not going to be the fastest but with age comes wisdom and this is what I've always said to everybody on the race if there is a young team a young male team yeah they do really well but if there's an older male team they're the ones who do well because they've got the wisdom they've got the knowledge they've got the worldly smarts that younger people don't always have and this and this is what I tell people all the time they say to me oh I wouldn't be any good on the race I can't run I can't do this I can't I'm not strong and I'm like the race isn't just that it's a lot of other things

12:11 And you don't have to be totally fit to be on the race they don't run all that often anymore like I guess I guess a couple of seasons ago we were making fun of every single leg being they had to go up like 100 flights of stairs to get to the to the pit stop but you don't see them like Al I don't feel like running all that and a lot of the challenges like you said does come down to attention to detail we even saw it on this episode here which I've got a lot of thoughts on that and you know again Victor talking about wisdom you know that comes with age Greg and John is one of those teams for me personally while we're on them making a mistake here going to the wrong Temple they nearly make a second mistake in this league so they're working twice as hard as everybody else because they're going from third to fifth or six and then they have to work their way back into third which they do manage throughout the duration of this leg but they almost gave up even on the scoop It Up Challenge before they even gave it a go they were almost willing to go somewhere else which I thought I love both of them they've got great energy but it feels like they're one mistake away from making a disastrous move potentially on the race in the future especially when we get down to like a final six situation where that type of move could still get you eliminated from the game exactly yeah that impatience well it's and it's anything that can trip you up I it just depends I

13:31 Mean you saw them at the at the Lotus challenge quite a few of them weren't there was no attention to detail with some of them you could see them making it and I was thinking oh my gosh what's going on there when they first got there I looked at the posie that she' made and I was thinking oh God this is tough this is hard look at it's so beautiful it's so neat it's so symmetrical and then I'm watching them just go in and grab any Lotus off any plant anywhere close to them and I'm thinking no one's really caring what they're doing here oh God yeah no definitely let's have a look at a couple of comments here coming in we've got Andre saying Julian Garrett also deployment anniversary right we've got Andre saying should have the Amazing Race season where the contestants are not very good at reading maps that would be fun good at reading Maps that would be funny that would be funny Andre Lee says Chris and Michelle have you ever went into the wrong Temple Church or mosque do you have any stories there Michelle I've never gone into I've been I've been into temples in barley and in Thailand but you know someone tends to take you there so I don't walk into the wrong Temple and the ones that

14:51 Are in Thailand tend to be the ones that are very well visited so there's a lot of people there so I have never gone into the wrong one no he also says here due to the past experience in floral arrangements and making s and Dolmas getting the leaves right will be my weak spot and would have been mine as well it definitely was for a lot of people out there I was impressed by the speed that Joselyn was working at but so many emotions went through my head when Joselyn was doing this challenge right because she knows that Victor's family is watching in the Asian culture there is this whole thing about respect and you know you need to show respect and honor your elders and the family and things like that which a lot of us westerners we don't get it we're like ah mom and dad take it or leave it you know I am who I am you know we're a lot more free spirited I felt bad for Joselyn when she was like I'm gonna be great at this I'm gonna kill it because of Victor's background and then she just she had like 13 attempts or something before she got it right A lot of it was really stressful for her yeah I mean it was stressful for all of them but I think more for her in that she felt like she had something to prove as well I did like that the judge told them what they'd done wrong although some of the racers couldn't

16:11 Understand what she was trying to say to them but it's better than saying no and then coming back and having to do it like 50 times because they didn't know what exactly they'd done wrong so I know some people didn't like that because usually in something like that they're not told what they've done wrong they just have to keep doing it but I think they would have been there all day yeah I noticed that and I also like the fact that there were a couple of teams that were working smarter not harder on this challenge so one of them being Greg you know he specifically when he came in at fifth he did end up overtaking I think a few teams to get the lead back and one of the things he did and I think that's the whole computer scientist background that comes into play where he talked about we're good at solving problems but he was sort of paying attention to each person going up every time they were told you're doing this wrong you're doing that wrong he would take a mental note of that and be like okay I need to make sure I've got the leaves 100% right I need to make sure that I've got the right pattern in there as well I thought that was quite good and again for future Racers out there that want to race sometimes you got to learn from other people's mistakes out there just like in life you don't have to make all the mistakes yourself work smarter not harder well that's correct in wanting to get it to a challenge not first we've seen

17:32 That time and time again you don't really want to be first because you're the guinea pig you're the one trying things out and if you get there second or third then you can see what other people are doing you can actually copy what they're doing and hopefully get out of there at the same time and so being first isn't always the best no but there was a very big advantage in this challenge for people being first Ian pointed it out when he came in later on where he said all of the flowers or the yeah everything close to us were taken so he had to go further out into the water every single time to do it so that would have made it a little bit harder on teams getting there later but it did seem to me like you caught onto one thing that I noticed as well and that's them helping a little bit and giving guidance in regards to what's wrong which we never see and then secondly it felt to me towards the end that they weren't going out anymore I don't know if they ran out of things do out there because it seemed like they were sitting like immediately when they're wrong some of the contestants like Steve just stayed there and continued working on did you notice that and UND them undid them and just started again yeah I think so when they were going back out to get more I was actually worried about them depleting the crop at that place and I think they did you know because they grow they don't grow that fast and

18:52 The crop's gone and I'm thinking why aren't they just using what they already have in front of them if they can find you know 10 that are relatively the same and not blooming maybe if they went out to get ones that weren't blooming some of them had some that are already started so I know they must have gone out for more but yeah I loved your favorite team when she was out there let's give him a shout out Team Pink Team Pink and the pink taxi this whole around Michelle it was meant to be it was Destiny did you see that beautiful pink taxi they were in yeah I did I did that was amazing I thought it was funny when she was screaming out there I couldn't tell what she was saying but it made me laugh Melena yeah so you had Melena out there she was she was hilarious as always but listen I feel like I need Andrea and Melena on like my speed dial in the mornings before I go to work just to like ramp me up get me in like that positive mind frame you know before I even get in there who needs Tony Robins if you've got Andrea moena on the call but I was scared for you I thought oh they can't go out Chris loves them too much they've just got that energy there you know some people have got the it factor and they've got the it Factor like they're like if I was like who would I like to hang out with and there's another team that popped this episode as well and I really enjoyed and we'll talk about that as well because you know it's still early days but Andrea and Melena

20:12 I don't know if they've got a winning them but just from a character standpoint I'm really enjoying them so far they were very positive throughout this whole episode as well even though they're sort of towards the end of the whole thing but another team here that was really hilarious was Morgan and we do have coming into this now obviously they've got the express pass they want to hold on to that bad boy or bad baby as long as they can before they have to play it but they can only play it up until the fourth leg which is interesting to know I don't know if that was sort of mentioned in the previous episode but Lena is really worried about crocodiles out there when she's going I'm thinking you're in Thailand and then there's that giant lizard there which I thought yeah it's actually the lizard sort of area rather than crocodiles that's so funny that there was a few people that were like really another really funny moment on this challenge was a few of the teams when things were going wrong for them they're like oh I'm so glad I'm doing this part of it because it must be so stressful for those that are waiting on the other side and meantime they're feeding the fishes having like the best time I thought the Ed editing was magic for that like those are the little moments that we're now getting with the 90minut episodes that we would not have gotten in the classic episodes yeah exactly there's no time for that sort of the filler stuff yeah Jonathan here has

21:32 Got a very important question for you Michelle I'm not even going to attempt to answer that because I do not know the answer I don't retain information like that but Jonathan asks have we ever had a leag where only two teams swap places I don't gosh that would be a Logan question that would be a Logan or a Michael question I actually don't know it would be very rare if it was only two teams I feel like it'd be very rare as well but I mean there's been 35 seasons and a lot of different teams in that time and a lot of different legs as well so it's anybody that can remember that off the top of their head call me you know impressed if that is the case I don't know honly Logan came on at the end of the podcast I did with Kahuna the Aussie one and I actually we asked a pointed question and I said oh Logan could tell you the season and the episode and lo and behold she told he told us a season and an episode for something and I'm like there you go impressive ridiculous Andre Le says waste deep walking in sludgy bottom harder than editing made it to be wonder how itchy all the contestants got afterwards from all the insect bites and stuff in the waters quite a few things that they ended up running into in that water and it was funny I was I was finding it hilarious that in the previous podcast we did you

22:52 Actually said Michelle the last thing you would want to do is get in that water and then this episode they get them all in the water I know no it's great it's great I mean and you know what you'll get some flashbacks of this podcast when you watch the Aussie race the next two episodes from getting in water yes all right that oh something to look forward to then for me there as well let me see was there anything else that stood out sort of here in the beginning part of it before we start heading over that one no that was that was everything I think the only the only the only other thing that was interesting as were leaving here a big mistake made by jul and Garrett to leave their fanny pack behind and why do people keep doing this it's not hard mind you look I think it'd be harder for a woman to do it than a man because a woman's always looking around for everything they've left children bags anything yeah it's usually it's usually just because they're rushing so fast but that's the main part because that's usually got their passports and things in it unless the other person carries passports I know on some races one person is in charge of carrying the passports not because Productions told them just because they've decided between them that person's going to carry everything important hopefully you

24:13 Know anyone doesn't lose their passports because that's like the end of the race for them I am pedantic when it comes to keeping my passport on me when I travel like I really know like this is my lifeline this is how I'm getting out of the country again so I feel like with passports things I would be pretty good but I do lose like my phone my keys things like that all the time at home I'll be like where did I put my phone again where did I put my keys again like I'm terrible with that but with a passport I reckon I'd be I'd be really onto it I'd be so paranoid that's going to be the thing that'll end my race so I agree with you it was weird to see that play out here but I don't feel like I could be wrong I don't know if Julian Garrett is like the biggest Amazing Race pans if they've seen a play out before yeah maybe not at least they got it back and they didn't really lose much time well one of them were like one of them didn't they were the two guys that became friends in the Army right and then one got sent home earlier and he watched a lot or they watched a lot of The Amazing Race so I don't know it's probably an honest mistake to make the other person we probably should touch on as well on this part of it was Ashley we had Todd sort of forcing Ashley to go out there team orange to go and do this because he wanted her to gain some confidence and get one of these Ro under belt sooner rather than later which I think is a good strategy he did the first one so get her immediately

25:33 Used to it some teams kind of hide one of the two for quite a long time and then you get forced into a situation where you've got to rely on one person going into the end game so getting that out of the way I think was a good strategy but Ashley had a really bad time out there yes I know yeah but I think she was the better person to do the actual challenge because I'm not I'm not having a go at guys but a lot of the time women are very good at flower arranging and making sure things look lovely and perfect and I think out of those two she was probably the better one to do the challenge yeah well shout out to Jeremy from the two brothers Liam and jemy and Team Green he did it the fastest out of all of them I think he only did had four T four T but he was the one that was looking at everybody wasn't he was he looking at everybody no he came really late but him and Ian were both impressive I think they were the two from what we saw Ian part of the gay couple Jo Ian who engaged he ended up doing it in five attempts and then yeremy was not far behind him doing it in four teams and I feel like that's what kept those teams in the race at the later stages because they were so far behind but yeah shout out to both of them the other teams who really struggled and I kind of felt like Steve like you know him and his daughter

26:53 Analie being out there he had a really difficult time and to me when they said to him go it still didn't look right to me I was like I feel like they're just like low lowering the bar at this point letting the go yeah I know I know well they got through it they got they got through it they got through it in the end and obviously Robin and Chelsea towards the end there as well Andrea and Melena like we said they were not doing good and then Elizabeth and Ilana had a really tough time out there as well but they have to go to the next part which is to an elephant And We R king and they had to go three times underneath it and then do like an offering just one of those fun challenges on The Amazing Race why not yeah it's better than actually going somewhere and getting your clue when you get when you get there at least they to do some little thing yeah it was better than just picking up something it was cute yeah Jonathan's still talking about the previous one here it felt like they weren't told everything at the first and they only learned bits and pieces through failing I think it just comes down to that attention to detail for those kind of challenges where you just take your time especially if you're going to be doing it 16 times like I think it' be worth it just to really be pedantic before you go get a check the first time and not have to go back out there again

28:14 And releases I would have jumped in and tried to catch the catfish oh my gosh no didn't they do they didn't do that no that wasn't I was trying to think they had to catch fish in an Aussie r not the last one maybe the one before and that was hard enough for them trying to catch a normal fish little Al only a catfish that can take off half your arm well I'm exaggerating but yeah so they do go to the elephant and pretty much that was just a really quick checkin to find out what their detail was going to be and there were two choices here stock up or a scoop up now Michelle you know I like to ask this question which one would you have done and why see that would have been hard because you see stock up so many times and you see there's a problem with the language being able to buy these things and if it's a big Market it's an absolute nightmare now that market didn't look bad but because I can't see the market I would have probably done scoop up yeah I'm in agreement with you I think at a lot of the times being able to just get through a challenge even if it's physical if you can just and obviously for me you know I don't mind the physical stuff I would have just gotten in there and push through just get the P the pomelos

29:34 Into the boat would have sound a lot more simple you know it would be you know you're going to have to work up a sweat and a lot of the fit young guys like they were out of breath like I looked at Liam and yery Joe and Ian they're both two FIT guy teams and they were huffing and puffing by the end of this so hats off to Steve who I thought at one point there they were going to medically evacuate him because he couldn't get out of the boat afterwards yeah that was hilarious but that's just move out of a boat and not fall in and you know trying actually to get back up onto a dock is actually quite a hard thing to do and if you've never done it you it's a bit scary when you try and do it you don't want to fall in so I can I can understand yeah and I mean listen if you've got a teammate like John in your team then you're going to fall in the water at some point you know cuz he managed to get Greg in the Water by jumping out of the boat that was a fun scene and who was the team who ended up sinking while they were out there and like sa the Pelos and like it was one of the girl teams it may have been like a no it was a girl guy it was it oh my God they just kept going down he was at the back the girl was at the front she said we're going down the only team the only team I can think of is Steven an was it must

30:54 Been must someone in the chat will know lovable Nikki welcome to the live we're a little bit earlier a little bit earlier than usual because we had daylight savings time here so we're an hour earlier on all of our time frames but great to have you here make sure to go and listen to the start of this again if you want to we spoke a lot about the first bit of the episode already but Jonathan gray says that was father and yeah thanks yeah the ftic stuff made The Detour seem better and that definitely does help because in the past sometimes they didn't have and they had who at the end was showing them the piece of paper they're in Thailand they must be able to see the signs all the writing is not in any sort of English alphabetic letters it's all these unusual characters why the hell are they showing them the piece of paper like well they weren't they apparently weren't allowed to Todd and Ashley earlier in that detour said they're only allowed to read it out to them they're not allowed to show it to them but we had teams doing that we had Andrea imena and Elizabeth and Elana both doing it but I think the reason probably because some people out online were upset about the fact that they didn't get penalized for that at the pit stop and maybe Robin and Chelsea could still feel hard done by it because they did end

32:14 Up in last place in 11th with Andrea and Melena ending in 10th but Elizabeth andana who ultimately got eliminated by the end of this they were also the culprits of it so wouldn't ched the of the r if that Mak but yeah it was even hard for the locals what they were try to get across when they were showing it to them so it didn't really help but I do have to give a shout out here to Todd and Ashley for choosing this specific part of the detour I think after asley got so frazzled with what she was doing this was the perfect DeTour for her to do because Todd had so much like Todd just went up in my estimation so much he had so much fun out there you know joking around with the locals really embracing the culture and I feel like Ashley needed that at that point because she was kind of frazzled coming back from that challenge yeah poor thing she just I mean it's hard I mean I don't know what the weather was like Thailand's always been hot when I'm there but I know it's not hot year round I can't remember when they raced because this is the season that was filmed before it's been no it wasn't this was filmed the most recently most recent and there's a season before so confused I hope they show the season before

33:34 I've heard that they're going to not show it on the normal CBS channel they're going to show it on a streaming Channel what the season before this one yes that's interesting do why do you think that would be because obviously Paramount plus Paramount plus is getting a lot of shows now maybe because for me personally when they brought this season forward which was supposed to be season 36 originally right they I thought it was just based on the fact that they knew going into the season they were getting 90 minutes so they could film differently and plan things out differently for it to make sense in a 90-minute format so if they do go directly to a streaming platform that kind of makes it feel like maybe they're thinking they're going to get another 90minut Block in the next one I'm quite happy that for them to put two episod two seasons in again like they used to in the old days put two seasons in next year i' be happy with that I'm sure the fan base would be happy with that too I mean do Survivor does bring it back just for just one year yeah anyway I don't know Andre Lee says here he would have done stock up because of his hospit retail and Supermarket background so that would have made sense and obviously another team with a lot of super supermarket background was Joselyn and Victor who not only could speak the language but it was like kind of just another day in the office for them

34:54 Out there yeah very easy for them just to let the words rolling off the tongue they even recognize most of the ingredients cuz they have it in their store so you can't get it any more tailor mate for you says she just got the notification oh no yeah we did go live a little bit earlier than expected as well so not ideal but like I said you know if you do want to catch up definitely there we I think we spoke a little bit about what happened there in the beginning there was some good stuff in there Andre says I assume that those two teams would have time penalty for showing a list and got speaking a phonetically only so shock they did not get it I'm the same as you I picked that up immediately and I did see some people online were not too happy about that Michelle maybe I mean we don't know if they did get a Time penalty maybe they didn't show it because it didn't change the order yeah time yeah it's been a while since time penalties but guess what Nikki are you watching the Aussie season oh don't spoil don't spoil I still watching you that's all I'm saying right Andre saying waiting for season where the second to last team is 12 to 24 hours behind the third to last team and has to start 12 to 24 hours behind the third to last team I don't think that's they're gonna never going to do that again it's too hard right

36:15 They've just finished editing the OG 35 I think all right that's interesting to know so let's see what else sort of happened on this one that was really good lot of fun like a set there by Todd and Ashley I did like that Joselyn and vict Victor really took in a lot of their surroundings while they were there as well because a lot of the times the teams that are at the front they don't seem to do it they're more game focused and the teams who do that they end up falling behind and not doing well overall I did like the little move by Liam and yeremy the two brothers in green with a long locks I should say some great hair on the on the show there they yeah they had some really good strategy right because they were trying to be quiet when they got to certain SE segments or certain of those candels that had like a lot of the p pomelos in it so that was cool to see a little bit of strategy hitting the game as well yeah because you don't see a lot of that well it's unless you know unless no one does it but yeah it was great or even just at the market someone was hiding stuff away from somebody else when they said they' found something at a certain store that was good as well Le Nikki never seen

37:35 Any other The Amazing Race I've seen I've seen one of the seasons I'm similar to Nikki I haven't seen many of them I've seen one of the seasons for Australian Amazing Race and I've seen I think one for Canada but I didn't like Canada back then it was like one of the first two seasons because it was all just in Canada they didn't actually travel globally which I found less interesting personally do they still only travel in Canada or they still only travel in Canada now they used to go out they used to go and do two different places and then they come back but now it's just only Canada what season of the Australian race have you watched I feel like it was the one before it was like I've seen the F actually it was the first one that b did I watched that one and I watched one where there were New Zealand teams versus Australian teams actually not a bad season that was our that was our third season but you have to watch the second season that is the season that's won the international Emmy Award right okay filmed back in 2011 I think and it was on in 2012 yeah you've got to go and watch that I mean it's just an amazing season K the look on F's face when Bo does some of his boow like things I bet you he would be raising

38:55 His eyebrows you know what Phil has lived in Australia so you know he knows Aussies and New Zealand is not too dissimilar so he'd probably take it on the chin and think oh God I'm back with the Aussies that's all that would be it would be a funny crossover to see and I love the idea of a crossover as well Sandy says I just started the Amazing Race Australia 6 so hectic I love it I've seen The Amazing Race New Zealand versus Australia they should do another season of it yeah I agree I agree that's fun because there's always the fomy Rivalry between Australia and New Zealand that I think we get some eyeballs on it you know see how they would do but I did have another thing I wanted to bring ah the other thing that for me this whole episode really stood out was Rob and Cory obviously as a doo it's amazing how when Rob communicates and he does all of his sign language how the camera it really gives you that feeling for what it must be like to be out there with because it's so silent and they just they let it be silent like that I don't remember because we've had people on the show before that were death but I don't I don't remember seeing it like that I don't yeah I don't recall when Margie and Luke were on Luke you're talking about Luke who was I don't recall there

40:15 Being such a long you know sort of like monologue that he did and there was no other sound I don't recall that at all whereas they let that be totally quiet and you're just like reading all the subtitles and I thought yeah that's good but yeah it really takes you into the world that they're racing in yeah definitely I really think that sort of brings you in and for me personally I don't know how other people are finding it I'm actually finding myself like really paying attention to the team because of it and they've got such a fun dynamic between the two of them and Rob is such a superstar like I mean he's done both of the roadblocks of this stage so obviously we still have to see what Cory's got and ify can per right I'm wondering did Phil know sign language back when Luke did it I don't recall I don't recall either so I feel like he's put in extra effort coming into the season and I feel like with I feel like there is a difference between Luke and Rob because Rob to me comes across like he doesn't really read lips I could be wrong here where I feel like they have to put extra effort in and that's why they've got an interpreter there someone that can do the sign language because I'm pretty sure Luke could read lips and that's maybe a little bit of the difference because I remember F speaking slower and clearer

41:35 Whenever they used to get to the to the pit stops yeah i' I'd have to go back and watch an EP or two and see how it panned out I mean they were in it twice weren't they did they do all stars as well they did yeah they did go twice I lik them more the first time I didn't like them the second time as much they seemed second time yeah I know you had that fight thing happening didn't you yeah which I feel like they were in the wrong there as well but Jonathan gray says I would also like to congratulate Robin and Chelsea on being the first team to finish 11th twice yes yeah that's before the 11th team just goes out yeah so it's gonna be interesting to see if we can see Robin and Chelsea or Andrea and molena work their way out of that bottom spot it's not looking good for them at this stage because I do feel like not like listen Andrea Melania like I said they're my soul sisters like if I could give them a call in the morning to get me ready for the day I would they would put me in such a positive mood but it's not been happening for them we've got to see something we haven't seen and then Robin and Chelsea they've been struggling as well jul and Garrett they're not far ahead but there is a couple of teams ahead of them that I think are real competitors this season

42:56 Yeah definitely yeah I think it's pretty stacked up at the top yeah so what do we have here in the end we ended up getting Victor and Joselyn easily getting into first they both win $2,000 which is always nice A little bit of extra motivation we've got Robin Cory in second place no big surprises there the Father and Son team doing extremely well Greg and John what's your thoughts on them do you think I'm on the money when I'm saying that even though they're doing really good now there is potential for risk in the future they seem like they're maybe like yes definitely I mean I thought Joel and Garrett would be further up and I was quite sad when they came in so low because you know I love those two yeah they're a fun they're a fun you there's something about them that kind of almost reminds me of the Cowboys remember like back in the day yeah I don't know there's something there that like gives me that Vibe but they're not they're not performing like them yeah exactly yeah they're quite congenial same sort of mannerisms in that friendly knockabout any type of guy sort of people Andre Lee here bringing something up which it's been a little bit of a pet peeve of mine but two episodes no screaming arguments and fighting so far you know so what do we think

44:16 About that Michelle because it's great to have likable people on the show but it's there's no arguments I'm fine it you know what there's sometimes there's a season where there's one team who is just so hated and it just takes away from the whole season because it's all focused on them which I don't like so I'm glad that's not happening I don't mind if things you know if little there's niggly fights but I don't want a major thing that just upsets the whole season yeah Sandy says to be honest this episode is kind of me for me just very straightforward I kind of agree like wasn't anything spectacular happening I'm hoping that they're saving the budget for one of the other legs and we're going to see something a little bit more exciting I don't know if maybe with the longer episodes like I mean how many drone shots could you do of that first sort of you know challenge that they were on without it becoming repetitive after a while so that didn't help maybe like I've said before be great to see what they do in between legs like I would love to see a little bit of teams like mingling at the pit stop afterwards a little behind the scenes don't get that anymore yeah no socializing you know keep people apart like they only meet each other after the race is over and in between legs

45:36 When they're feeding the fish that's when they get to have those conversations the viewers out there and yourself would be interested to know that this the current Australian celebrity season is run a little bit differently and you'll see that when you watch there is a little bit of mingling and things like that so yeah wait till you have a look yeah kuna says I've only just now realized the hard it is to watch two concurrent Seasons I keep getting Au in my head yep yeah that will happen we were talking about that beforehand actually before going live but I did want to continue to talk about some of the teams here in their placement we've got Morgan and Lena they're in they're end in fourth place they're very solid Michelle I'm liking them so far they've got the express pass what's your thoughts on them yeah F they're good they're good te I think they'll stay up the top definitely I love and I love the dynamic between them as well Morgan being the one that sort of pushes Lena on a little bit I think that's going to be interesting to continue to watch throughout the season as they continue Todd and Ashley went up quite a lot in my estimate this week I liked them last week but I thought there was potential for them to blow up but how supportive Todd was with Ashley this week really showed me that's not going to happen because he even when she came back in sixth place after that first challenge he's like you did

46:56 It who cares let's go like it was not did he also say you look really sexy yes he was that one I'm like I'm looking at him going oh he's a keeper because you look like rubbish yeah he knew exactly what to tell her at that point to keep her moving so good job on Todd there stepen analy seems to be a fun father daughter team this Seas I've got a feeling like we're going to see a lot from anal this season because you know yeah she was pulling a weight in that physical challenge when they were doing The Challenge where they had to get all of the those the fruit and they had to put it on in the baskets like she was the one who did all the physical moving and carrying you know why though she's a country girl yeah and I know in Australia I don't know about in America but in Australia the country girls you know they get in there they do things they're not princesses they just get on with what they have to you know accomplish and she seems like that sort of a girl yeah Joe and Ian the jury's still out on them they like I mean they're like the classical team when you look at them you're like they're fit they're look charismatic goodlooking like you just think that they're going to be good and it has something not something's not connecting

48:18 There Liam and YY I think are two if I had to put my money on a team that are really low right now they can climb the ranks I'll have my money on Liam and Jeremy I think that they again just seeing how quickly they Breeze through that first challenge four teams for me to get through that it shows that the attention to detail is there which is going to be important in a lot of challenges for the rest of the season so I would say if there is a team that I would say probably a blue chip stock right now if you were in the stock market you could put a little bit of money into Liam and yeremy there's potential there yeah and they're a fun team they get on really well they communicate well so that always helps love the support between the two brothers like you know even in the previous episode when they were talking about how when they were younger I forgot which one was older the older brother was always there for the younger one and now the roles are kind of changing more into like a friendship as they get older because I can relate to that with my brother a similar type of relationship so I love the fact that they're there for each other and they seem really positive and like they will encourage each other throughout the season they don't look like things are going to stress them out I mean because they're right at the bottom right now we're not seeing them unravel so when you start at the bottom like that you can only up you know if you can get a couple of good legs behind you J and Garrett we spoke about them a little bit would be great to see them lift their game they look like they could be fun obviously we know my thoughts on Andrea Melena I love them Team

49:38 Pink till the death that's all I'm gonna say like I'm gonna I'm gonna ride with my girls I'm gonna ride with my girls this season Michelle and guess what Lulu and laa was Team Pink as well I know that's what I was thinking just now you have an affinity with pink teams and the pink taxi that they had I hope they get a pink taxi every League now that's amazing when they got that and then Robin and Chelsea like Robin's story is just crazy from the first week the things that she's gone through you know I kind of want to Ru for them and just hope that they do well and then this week how was it Chelsea that was bullied by Robin and her group when they were younger and then they became friends it's a very interesting start to their friendship very I mean I didn't want either of the bottom two teams to go out because I thought they had really good stories so I didn't you know it was sad when they were both down there I wouldn't have minded one of the guy teams going out although you know they're great races but they don't have as much of a meaty story as these two teams so yeah I was a bit sad when Elizabeth and Ilana at the bottom but then I'm like God Robin and Chelsea could be out next week which would be even worse Yeah question there lovable Nikki has for us is if you have an Express Pass and you are UT can you use the express pass I believe you can yeah

50:58 Yeah so that would effectively be you would have just had to do one Challenge and there's going to be a compulsory one coming up at some point right yes EXC which is going to be interesting to see what's going to happen there it's a good strategy to force someone to use the pass yes I agree but they can only do it for someone to use an idol in Survivor isn't it yeah it's only two more legs though so they're not going to be able to hold on to that bad boy for too long Andre saying Chris and Michelle if you were on The Amazing Race team who would you be King George or would you be Pam in this scenario I don't know Pam yet and don't spoil it for me please at the St lovely I Andre Pam's lovely I've let met her in real life she's lovely let me give you a little story Andre in that you know how George was saying to get Pam you're feeling sick Pam just vomit and get on with it Andre I probably said this in another episode but I have done a race in Sydney before it was really hot I hadn't had a drink in forever I went to get one a power raid from a shop and it was really quick had to keep running had two-thirds of the drink felt sick vomited on a street corner in Sydney and then my friend said are you okay and I said yes just run so we just kept running and I literally just left

52:18 Half the drink over in a in a gutter yeah so yeah I'd probably beat your but the people you know I don't know how Chris would be but the girl that I have applied with she would be we'd be like George to each other we'd be like come on just vom it let's go I think I think I would be personally think I would be like Todd and the sense that if my partner was struggling I could like being the kind of person that I am like I've always played team sports my whole life and I've also been a coach I'm a manager at work come on come on it's very motiv I'll be like very motivational and I'll also like be able and again this is me talking about myself weird when you talk about yourself but I feel like I'd be able to get the best out of people even if they're like at the lowest like I could I could lift people that's why I love Andrea and Melena because they're so positive I love Positive Vibes Positive Vibes attract me you know like Lulu and laa in the previous season they had that positive vibe so whenever somebody's like that you can't help but smile and feel good like even you were saying Michelle when Melena was doing that first challenge you were laughing at her for things she was saying and getting up to like I like people like if you surround yourself with good people it lifts your mood you know and sometimes things won't be that way when you're on the race and things will go wrong but I think that I would be able to lift someone I think

53:39 You're able to laugh I wouldn't be I don't think i' be George because I feel like George just is like cut through the chase suck it up move he's kind of like Morgan in this situation towards Lena yeah I'd probably be I wouldn't be George strength in that respect but I'd be I'd be more like George than Pam because I'm very competitive I be like come on let's go you're not that sick Chris you're fine we've got a pit stop to get to yeah Andre says here who do you think will be the first te to get u-turn at this stage they're forced to do it but it's a vote right yeah they're all forced to do it they all have to do it so it's not I don't think it's going to be like that you turn from years ago where they all gathered in a room do you remember that was very strange and they had to do that but I think because if you're first past the U-turn surely you can't get u-turned right like if Joselyn Victor's first they should be I think everyone gonna be H have to put up a card but where they won't know if that person's passed or not anyway so it could be nullified you know to use the nullified take if they're ahead of you and you don't realize that they're ahead of you yeah and if I but

54:59 Jelyn and Victor are doing so well I but they're such nice people I probably wouldn't U-turn them I'd probably U-turn someone was doing just as well as them for me it'd be interesting if I was out there and I was racing I would want to urn someone that I know is struggling because that way I know my votes counting towards some unless you want to just throw your vote because there's still a way for you to throw your vote you could be like I want to be the nice guy Greg and John and third place let's vote JN Victor we know they're ahead of us we just saw them around away that way we don't have to make a decision yeah like to uturn the person in front so you don't get in trouble for anything look at us being all strategic hopefully none of our competitors in The Amazing Race Australia for next season is listening Michelle these two game gaming the system Jonathan says the sisters only have one Express Pass right on to give out no none to give out so no it's not it's not Canada Jonathan yeah I know Jonathan says I think it will be like the Paul and Steve one Michelle oh yeah it could be God everyone hated them didn't they geez Paul Steve was a nice guy well actually you know what Paul is a nice guy but he's just so competitive that his edit was so bad for him I mean you do say the things you say but a lot of Paul's

56:19 Stuff is deep seated in him being bullied when he was young and having to be the bigger man now and have trying to put up this bravado that you know he's trying to fight against what he went through when he was young and I yeah and I think Paul for all his comments you know I think Grace just had a go with him way too much that's all yeah Jonathan says competitive plus antisocial equals no quick friends oh you see I'm competitive and I'm social so there you go it's good I'm competitive I'm super competitive don't me wrong I hate losing like you know you don't want to play me in like a board game like it's oh no yeah I'm super competitive from that stuff but I think that when you're in a team environment you have to be able to move at the pace that the other person's moving at and you need to be able to read when you need to push and when you need to pull you know and I think that is what makes the best teams out there and if you can't operate at the same frequency you're only as good as the person who's struggling you know so some people just don't get that you know and I think that's going to be the difference between the teams who wins and become like Legends and all stars of the game well you could be a hot mess team and still become an All-Star team I guess but you know it's definitely if you want to win that's how you're going to have to operate in any case exactly

57:40 Michelle tell me do you know what the schedule is for the weekend when are you Kahuna Tom Verity and Kahuna and yourself Sunday or Monday Kahuna listening we moved it because it was Tuesday and it was it was just the day before the actual next episode so I suggested us moving it earlier I think it was Sunday last time I spoke to him but keep an eye keep an eye on a channel kuna probably in the next couple of hours or so we'll confirm with everybody and put a live up for The Amazing Race Australia episodes one and two that's right two episodes came to us this week 900 P.m. on Sunday's kuna saying so 9 pm you've got it on that's Melbourne Sydney time in Australia yes it would be an it would be around this time right now for those that are in the US if they do watch it but that's going to be a great chat I'm definitely going to have to catch up on both those episodes over the weekend so that at least when I watch it I know what the hell's going on EX up to date with you but I'm excit Tois big episodes so yeah you got watch hopefully it doesn't get me that excited that I want to talk about it because I'm trying to do less podcasting the moment I need you all to just enjoy that and do that one together but plenty more content coming this weekend we've got Survivor recap and review tomorrow morning my time which will be in the evening for everybody over in the US it should be

59:00 I think 700 p.m. Friday evening for those in the US at Eastern Standard Time there and we've also got the amazing sorry the challenge content that's going to hit us this weekend as well should be an hour earlier than usual because of daylight savings as well so around 7 p.m. on the Saturday evening over there as well as well as The Wheel of Time so another busy weekend for me when it comes to podcasting Wheel of Time will be finishing this weekend so that will be one less podcast to worry about moving forward for now but I have a lot of fun obviously I wouldn't be doing this if I didn't have fun with all of the shows that are going on at the moment kiwi oh no we just missed you well plenty of content coming this weekend kiwi skir I know I'll see you definitely in the challenge maybe I'll see you in Survivor it' be great to have you in Survivor but it is an earlish start tomorrow it's about 12 in the afternoon for you tomorrow that we're going to be doing that but plenty of things coming I have not watched The Challenge either Andre Lee so we need to try to get together for a draft I know loveable Nikki it's been it's been tough and it's and it's all my fault at this stage I blame it on my new company and work and training and life in general but hopefully at some point it would have been good if the challenge didn't extend their ending to like three episodes they could just get it done in like one episode so

1:00:20 We can have a weekend where I've got like one less thing to talk about but yeah I agree with you that needs to happen for the challenge 39 so much going on at the moment but Michelle is there any final thoughts that you have on this episode anything that we didn't talk about no we talked about everything I'm happy I'm wondering where they go next I don't think I saw the preview avoiding I didn't and I'm avoiding the spoilers as well so I've got no idea what's happening next I don't want to be spoiled one episode in advance but I definitely don't want to know the whole route so yeah it'll be interesting to see where they go but for those that are still here in the live at this point please consider subscribing if you enjoy this content if you love Michelle on the channel she is going to be back like I said this weekend to talk to Kahuna and the rest of the gang about the Amazing Race Australia so make sure to check that out as well go check out if you're on Facebook Michelle's fan pages The Amazing Race fans Facebook group and The Amazing Race fans Australia Facebook group did I get that right Michelle it's amazing race Australia fans and races we have races in both groups but we did that because there was another Australian group and I just wanted to delineate that our was races as well yeah that's awesome so go and support that if you want more content Michelle's really active on both of those groups

1:01:40 As well very active I don't know how she does it she's got she's got that Andrea and Melena energy when it comes to social media she's all over it's like you and all the podcasts it's me with a couple of podcasts and then the groups it's like oh it's insane why do we do this to ourselves Michelle because we love it we love it that's why passionate about it so Vietnam ah Vietnam okay that should be really good as well but thanks everybody for watching in the live and those that are listening to this at latest stage let us know your thoughts in the comments section below if you're watching this at a latest stage I will read all of them and respond to them at some stage we really love seeing comments come in and it does help with the algorithm to get our cont out there and for more people to discover this channel but for now thank you for watching and see you guys next week bye