Traitors NZ: Week 4 Recap

0:00 Foreign [Music] [Music] [Music] foreign [Music] that's right we have been kidnapped for the know if I Take podcast tonight baby I'm your host Mucky hope and today I'm joined by a very special guest you know for the last couple weeks I've called him the sexy Viking but really I feel like he's just a noodle muncher what do you what do you mean but really what do you mean but

1:21 Really stinky noodle muncher you know you come over to my place last night and you're posting Instagram how ah you know I haven't had any breakfast I'm starving boy I didn't say I hadn't had breakfast I said I was gyming on an empty stomach because I was but you had noodles bro and I had evidence of your comments on my floor man you know what I was eating I was eating in the darkness so I wouldn't wake you up so why there were crumbs on the floor I was like it was almost pitch black and then apparently you don't wake up too late so it doesn't matter anyway but I thought that counts it is and I appreciate that just like how much I appreciate this very dramatic intro we had for such a dramatic donation by Andre Lee with a cheeky tin box thank you so much Andre for the donation yeah we love your support you've been giving our Channel you know for the last several weeks almost month now I think it's been absolutely nuts bro thank you so much for all your support it's fantastic do you want to pay my rent curiosity is going to kill the cat okay Brooke so he should get her out of there yeah but we'll definitely dive into Brock

2:41 A bit later on tonight with the show but let's also say hi to Ava g'day people hey Ava hopefully you're doing really well and that life is yeah this is going great I hope that life is going for you yeah hopefully yeah anyways but yeah Traders New Zealand Hamish week four what's your what's your overall thoughts on the weekend the season so far so for every week well excluding the first one so far what I've been what I've been telling you is like this week is more chaotic or more tense or whatever than the last and man I don't want to be a stuck record but like not mad this week was so tense you saw me when we were watching the two episodes on three now website last night bro on the first of the two episodes of this week when we got to the like the banishment voting I was so you probably saw me I was like yeah goodness so yeah it's getting really heated and as we will as we will see I'm having to find

4:01 A new one to root for yeah yes that unfortunately I avoid Dan has been eliminated we were definitely talk about them a bit later on but I feel like fully cut I'm gonna tell people that's the reason I got like really little sleep last night yeah I mean probably that and the I woke up from a dream of like Dan getting voted out I'm like sorry I just have to bring this up I saw the video Mucky somebody can remember to make sure the doors unlocked no what video he's talking about just check out the Stags hero Instagram but we can talk about that later anyway yeah definitely and oh a new listener maybe to the live good on TJ I wonder how Colin will place the new traitor we're definitely gonna dive into Colin a bit later on especially in the second episode of this week but yeah I was so happy to see Colin finally be recruited as a Trader what's your what's your thoughts on that Hamish I think it had to happen you know like I think there's definitely some tension that's being

5:21 Brought up here you know between Brooke and Colin I think that you've got these two very like passionate players with what they're doing you know they're very like you know like they're like the big kind of the big dogs you know what I mean as Traders and I feel like you know Colin's like Waltzing into this conclave and he's like this is my conclave now you know on Colin obviously you know wants to keep doing keep doing his smart strategic game and all that so it's yeah man it's you've got like a fire and another fire and a yeah it's really setting up for such a great finale which you know I've watched a lot of New Zealand shows and the one thing I found with especially New Zealand reality TV shows is that what really lacks is the strategy you know that's why New Zealand Survivor got canceled only after two seasons because there was hardly any strategy and the people who were quite strategic not a lot of people respected them because you know kiwi is all about nature and integrity and your mince and cheese pies and the can of blue v you know but yeah they're very pretty but yeah but no one's really dead into strategy but I feel like with this show not only has it been like very strategic kind of throughout

6:41 The show for good and bad it's the cast is just it's just perfect yeah I feel no yeah this is a very cool cast I it's like a good variety of like different kinds of personalities and they're just like all fun to watch man like the way they all I guess connect and stuff and how much of that's the editing like I don't know but like it seems yeah it's just yeah it gives like season two Australian Survivor Vibes like straight up yeah as you know this my favorite season of strange Survivor even representing the king of the jungle baby with creeping yeah it's something I Love About That season is everyone's a massive you know hit on that season and so I'm here with the New Zealand Traders I feel like every person has been a massive hit with of your a Kimberly or a Sam Fury who's in it for like literally like 20 seconds or if you're like a Colin in the brook who's made us to be fair like that 20 seconds you know that was like the smartest move of the game right there he's just like bro like my odds at winning this thing are not high but I can get a free ten thousand dollars I'm taking it quality strategy

8:02 And let's not forget everyone we have a cheeky segment at the end of every live we say what the most strategic move of the game was so for week one it was Sam Fury gaping it to grab the 10K for week two it was Julia saying that you know if you if you vote for me you can look like a fool afterwards which is a great defense and last week it will see six episodes plan which Kimberly was only in there for five oh no she was only enough for one sorry and those are the downfall of Robbie when they were putting like the different color things into people's wine glasses in the first episode Kimberly is like I reckon like Robbie seems pretty suspicious and then cast everyone's doubts on Robbie from day one and that was Robbie's downfall Kimberly was like the orchestrator and she was only in it for one episode damn man like she planned so far she foresaw it bro she's psychic she did we need Kimberly on the Traders New Zealand All-Stars so we start this episode at breakfast you know still lived on a bit of a cliffhanger

9:22 On who's gonna come into the strix toilet hat as I like to call it you know to meet Brooke and Dan and what I found so funny is that everyone who comes in to breakfast they start off talking about how great of a player Robbie is because at the end of last week you know she was announced as a traitor and I know we were laughing about this you know obviously this is you know no disrespect to Robbie at all but she did so many suspicious things as a faithful to make everyone think she was a traitor and then just the one time she was a traitor that's when she gets voted out so everyone's like yeah like Robbie seems like the bro you know what I mean she seems cool she seems really nice but like [Laughter] that was pretty funny like everyone's been suspicious of it the whole time as a faithful and then the day that she becomes a traitor she gets voted out everyone at the Management's like oh she's good yeah and you know and Colin walks in because obviously at this point no one knows you know who's been put on to Paul Henry's tractor and sent to the farm right and Colin thinks that people don't know people watching this and you if

10:42 You don't know what that is we're choosing the word to it the thing that the Traders do to eliminate players like that kind of you know what I mean but we can't set out of you know not wanting to be demonetized so getting put on the tractor and sent to Paul Henry's Farm is the Traders eliminating people all right continue all right thank you thank you and then hopefully they make a disappearance on the famous show country calendar here in New Zealand but anyways column makes a great observation here where he thinks that Dylan would be the perfect seduction at this point in the game What's your what's your thoughts on Colin's Reed here on Dylan potential being like the perfect adoption Dylan being the perfect seduction I think that people aren't really pointing Dylan's name out and because Dylan is already like the kind of like quieter more like aloof mysterious kind of you know he's almost playing similar to Dan is but like as a faithful I guess like you know that would be a good reason but I think that at this point in the game people are becoming more aware

12:02 Of quieter people I think at this point in the game because there are less people silence is louder you know like if you're quiet in a room of 20 people are going to notice the other 19 people or the other yeah 18 whatever but at this point it's like there are there are less people talking so you know you're it's so much obvious more obvious when you're being like subtle so I think that I don't know I half agree with them yeah I feel like I think it's been more than vocal version of Dan where Dylan who picks up on all these small things right where sometimes I highly disagree with the way he goes about them because he'll definitely pick up on something which is very intelligent he picks up on all the tiniest things but sometimes it's the wrong read of a situation and then he just goes hard after that person similar to Brody and he does not waver and then but you know some of his reads have been like massively wrong like with Mike that being probably the biggest fail yeah I guess what it is like he sees things and like you understand where he's coming from like oh Mike did kind of sit back and not like you know applaud or chair or

13:22 Whatever you know what I mean yeah so you get it but it's also like he's looking at individual things rather than like a cluster of things together rather than like this person did five of these things which seemed suspicious they're probably a Trader he's like this person did this one thing which could in theory be literally anything else you know what I mean yeah so yeah and we immediately get introduced to what the challenge is which some members have been kidnapped and the people that's left at the breakfast have to spill it up into two different teams to go and find the people that's been that's been kidnapped and what I love about this is that as soon as we're introduced to the mission we immediately get a flashback to the night before where poor Henry explains the Twist and they run down their ideas where since Robbie can't do a bit of a Shifty thing towards Dan by giving him a bit of a wink when he voted for her they need to split up to try and clear sort of Dan's names yeah right like have more people in different places like you know like brick will talk these people into thinking Dan's all good Dan will talk to you yeah and something I found interesting is that obviously they peered each other up with her they're probably most closest to in the game that's outside of each other so

14:42 Sudan who was sort of with you know Justine and Kings it's got a bit of a thing going with them like Vanda as well but Colin he's really did sit on Dan at this point and Brooke is with Anna and Julia which we've kind of seen like the three of them have been you know hanging around each other a lot and yet I just found that strategy to be quiet quite interesting where they perfectly splitted each other up to sort of cover all grounds what's your what's your thoughts on this Australia yeah so I think it makes sense where Brooke was put in that way because they needed one of them to be there and it makes sense for Brooke to be the one that's like kidnapped because they didn't know what the challenge is going to be right yeah and so it you know and the people that were kidnapped aside from broke that Anna and Julia like that I think that makes sense those two are very like vocal and like influential people in the game at this point yeah and so it makes sense to kind of just cut them out of the mix and Brooke just kind of goes with them as like collateral damage or you know whatever I think that Dan being on the team that was looking for you know the kidnapped he'd been on the team with Kings and Justine man like he

16:02 Was kind of already like making them think that he was all good you know what I mean and so I wonder how and I know that Vando straight away was just like all right guys we'll go to these two teams like you know it's not over complicated it's not like he picked it that way but yeah I wonder if it would or could have gone differently had he been on the team with Colin and Vanda or Sam or you know just the others yeah you definitely I guess that's kind of a bit of a major water for Dan something to help what if they didn't you know seduce I mean I'm in the marketing stage of my grief for Dan bro yeah but we do have a question here from Andre would you finish your breakfast before you started finding the contestants well I know for you Hamish that you would have just you know dropped the noodles on the ground and started gapping because you yeah you like to do things on an empty stomach in a way yeah I reckon what you would have done is you would have like downed your eighth chalky milk okay so for context at work they had a

17:22 Chicken chocolate milk that's 1.5 liters and they reduced the price on it from 11 dolls to literally 460 because it was about to expire me thinking it expires at the end of the week I bought three of them so that's four point like 4.5 liters total but turns out they expired today so I had to drink 4.5 liters of chocolate milk and 24. no but you see we didn't need the context because that's just your daily anywhere I wish it was my daddy oh my gosh did you have a problem yeah I would have a problem with that once my daily but also another question from Andre I love you too who will be the driver and who would be solving now that's funny because you can't do either yeah I can't do either would know I'm a really bad driver and oh that's not that bro Eric you're Travis you're driving's fine it's just yo let's share our driver's license what does your photo look [Laughter] s good not only am I well average at driving I'm also really bad with geography

18:43 And like maps and like as homers can tell you we've gone on a couple you know road trips together and he's been like oh where should we go and I'm like oh just go right by that large tree or I'd be like examining the rights because I know that's not right [Laughter] across like Topo right now yeah put your car into boat mode bro so Ava says David says that she would have just chugged the coffee and jumped around jumped around yeah I feel like there'll also be a great strategy especially for trying to find you get on the maps but nah so Anna Brook and Julia they're given like you know a bunch of different questions that they need to ask for contestants and each answer like it gives them a clue to what the coordinate is which the first team to arrive at the at the Wharf get to win a trip to the Armory and the team that wins is Dan Kings and Justine but June by the start of this challenge is probably it's probably up there for one of the best Paul Henry quotes of the season and maybe something we could do for our finale recappers what is Paul Henry's greatest quote yeah

20:03 He's where they literally played the video and he's just there drinking cup of tea he's like what does he say he's like you've been kidnapped [Laughter] you've been kidnapped yeah I'm so sorry Paul Henry yeah now I don't pull Henry so much I feel like every week he just has something quirky about him whether it's you know there's one line there's like his cheeky Little Chickadees or if he's just driving off on a tractor honest he becomes more of a meme every week bro yeah he does he does and but unfortunately after the challenge we find out that Dylan is confirmed murdered and is I mean we kind of knew during the challenge anyway sure yeah but it was like the contestants found out I guess yeah and we get quite a sad quote from Dylan which is Traders if you're watching this I'd rather join you than be murdered yeah and that's yeah you mean you he'd rather join them than be sent to the fight to honestly oh yeah to the front sorry my bad my bad I'm sorry YouTube I'm sorry I'm sorry please don't I'm

21:23 At the farm I mean but yes over on the farm YouTube foreign for Dylan in the spot well I haven't as I mentioned before I haven't agreed with you know a lot of his reads and places kind of kind of done throughout the season he was definitely a very entertaining character throughout you know with the sort of strategy and the drama he brings to the show I feel like some contestants are more personality than strategic but I feel like Dylan was one of those people where he was full on he was thinking you know like he said on one of the episodes like how like he goes back to his like room each night trying to like you know like think about you know who that could be in like stuff and he admitted that he has no clue but like because I think at that point he was becoming less confident with his like his you know puzzle problems you know figuring out basically but yeah like the fact that like he's making this statement about always going back to his room each night and just like sitting there thinking like you know who is it and stuff like he's clearly like really trying to play the game from her you know the Strategic standpoint yeah and we you know we come back to the house and

22:44 Dan is really in the hot seat for this fight you know I feel like he had different sort of voting blocks almost so you had pro-dan and pro Vander because everyone's starting to get quite suspicious of vanders maybe being a good seduction so you had Colin and Anna who are really going hard for them and then you had Dan Brook Justine and Kings who were going quite hard on Vander and you know Julius was kind of in the in between [Music] I think I've missed someone out did I no I didn't yeah and so yeah Julie was kind of in the in between and Sam he was also in between as well why do you think Dan could have done to really get out of this situation obviously Robbie she gives him like a bit of a wink which kind of you know heavily throws him under the butter the last banishment what do you think Dan could have done to really get out of the spot I guess Robbie's just a big game player bro like yeah bro like the thing is I think the only person that probably saw Robbie's wink was Dylan I think that you

24:04 Know obviously others noticed the staring like Anna said she noticed it for example and the thing is if he didn't bring up the wink then he might you know it might he might not have been as suspicious but at the same time on the chance that people did see the wing he kind of had to be the one to own it you know what I mean like he did so I get why he brought up the wink but oh man I can't help but Wonder like if he didn't oh damn yeah I was rooting for you man nah yeah I think that basically he just needed more time with the you know the people who weren't you know too keen on him being faithful and less time with the people that he you know he'd either sold or basically had sold you know what I mean I don't know it's it just didn't really work out for him rest in peace the bro yeah I have to I have to root for somebody else now and if they get voted out then or sent to the farm then I'm just you're done we but we're just an icon here from Dan which I actually really liked how he was like he first put onto two different fronts right where the first

25:25 Sort of wave of Defense he was using is by being like Oh Robbie was giving me a wink because she's kind of like yep like you've got me yeah no I thought that I thought that was pretty intelligently I don't know if I would have come up with that yeah and the other one he tried using was Robbie and I we sort of had an alliance or a bit of like a pact going and you know and he's just saying see you later yeah pretty much yeah and any anything say you know Robbie was kind of a bit shocked that her friend maybe voted for her or something you know and I quite liked the strategy from Dan but unfortunately it does not wave a Colin yeah at all and unfortunately we do get to the banishment Justine you know she calls out you know Vanda you know on whether or not if she's potentially you know like a Trader Vanda she does everything which is like not Unfaithful and faithful we do see you know Dan and Brooke really try you know swing Sam across as well but that doesn't seem to work and a vote of five to four probably the closest vote we've had it was four for four yeah that sounds funny to say

26:45 That like slowly anyway so bro like when we were sitting there watching it and I was just like come on Julie and I knew that it was obvious Julia was going to vote it for Dan Rather than for Vanda but like I was just like come on yeah no it's hey no disrespective ended though but like you know yeah you were up against my brother yeah well and something that I was just trying to bring up thank you Andre for bringing it up as well three shoot holders got voted out in a row so early he won the shield he gets eliminated Robbie she wins this she'll she gets eliminated and now Dan you know Dan went to the Armory four times but he only got a on this last one and that was the time he gets that dude you know what I'm saying last week about it being like a cursed Shield yeah I don't even want to go to the Armory man yeah why go to the Army at this point you know it's only going to tank you again you know yeah and but something that like you're allowed to go into the Armory but like no don't make me go yeah legit and something I do like from Brooke when you voted for Vanda is that he really put in a good pitch I think Brooklyn maybe see that it was gonna be a tight vote so he didn't know which way I was going to go so

28:05 If the possibility of Dan stayed I feel like Brooke's speech really would have helped you know Dan be seen more as a faithful which is you know I've been like we've been close friends for a while you know we played you know like I sort of know your poker face and stuff like that and I know for certain that you're a faithful nod Trader otherwise I would have been able to pick up on it so I like to Brooke sort of pressure with that angles a bit of like last-ditch effort to save Dan but he also said that like he wasn't good at like reading the Bluffs and stuff usually and he's like oh you know a bit of the devil I know kind of but yeah I guess he kind of like pleaded ignorance you know what I mean like he's just like I don't really know you know I'm just doing my best out here you know yeah but yeah unfortunately Dan gets murdered on that Dan gets voted out and that's the last of the OG Traders yeah can you believe it all the IG Traders are finally being yeah I'm sorry for punching your TV I'm kidding I'm not sorry I had to try selling trade me man it was it was so hot it was really hard but overall I love Dan so much you know I feel like he brought so much strategy especially from a Trader's perspective as well you brought

29:25 So much strategy and so much just entertaining moments to the to the season and I know the dance you're a boy it was your number one you know routine I was rooting for him from the beginning I was just like because like yeah I don't know he played the game how I X how I feel I probably wouldn't play it and then I was just like cool like I'm like I'm gonna like play the game vicariously through Dan like please win it was not to be yeah unfortunately not but definitely if there was I mean I'm not sure if there is any kind of returning players type season for Traders because we haven't hit that on any of the franchises but definitely New Zealand was to bring back some players down to someone who I think would be very interesting on that I agree on the return I agree but as a faithful I reckon oh yeah he would have to be a faithful I mean would you bring back Traders and make them a traitor again maybe I think that I don't know you wouldn't I don't know I think that you would just basically pick it from like because you know how pulinary picks it once they're already though he doesn't decide you know from before he meets them I think that he'd have to just go through each of them and be like hmm you know I'm feeling you today and just kind of go on the moment otherwise it's too easy to calculate but anyway now I'm having to switch allegiances well

30:45 Now that you know you have to switch allegiances you know you've gone from rooting for your number one boy Dan who was your number one rooting interest now I'm torn bro I'm torn like the obvious is to go for breakfast I wish I could do the thing where I like kick you off the Stream but you are hosting it now it's my power home I hold the power nah bro okay so like I'm torn because it's like the obvious one is to be like Brooke like you know he has to carry the torch now like he has to be the sole one to like carry Dan's Legacy you know and it's like the Epic you know like it could be like the him like avenging Dan if he wins and Brook's like cool like I think he seems pretty gangster and he's like smart as well but then also I was saying it last week like earlier on in the game somebody who I thought was playing more like in the back I guess that wasn't like quite as vocal but became more vocal last week and I think became a lot more vocal again this week is Julia and now I'm like bro like what if I switch allegiances to the faithful now like what if I want Faith so we'll see you next week I think I'll have to decide who I'm rooting for then yeah well

32:06 We're all looking forward to hey Miss which side you're picking Let's do let's bet money on this but you know we go back to shriek's toilet Hut as I like to call it and Paul Henry's here waiting for Brooke and you know I haven't fully seen all the other Traders franchises yeah only just like you know clips and a few episodes here and there so I'm not sure if the spring news and other franchises but we basically get a Twist to where Brooke has to Blackmail someone to come and join him and I mean I'm not sure if I like this very much because it's literally Brooke chooses someone to come be the trader with them but if they refuse that then they get murdered so it's like they get sent to the farm yeah they had to say yes yeah I like Concept in a way but it's also like I feel like they should have just premised I mean I guess they okay now they've obviously premised it as blackmail because it's thematic like you know in effect what they're doing is just making somebody a Trader against their will because like you'd have to be crazy particularly this far into the game to

33:26 Get that option given to you and be like no man I don't want to be a Trader please just kick me off of this show like who's gonna actually do that you'd have to have so much pride so yeah I guess I'll do it you would do it no I think bro you want to be a Trader yeah I would love to be a trainer so much yeah I think they just I think the way that the reason they did that is like it did it that way is because it's like you know thematic the whole like you know kidnapping sending people to the farm you know blackmail and it's just kind of like you know idio you know what like how the show is yeah and we say Brock choose Colin and oh hang on we go cheeky con comment from Ava no disrespect to vanderpanda would probably go to the farm before traitor LOL I'm not sure about that because I think you know I think van dersh is you know really sit on playing this game and while she may not be as out there as a as a broker and a colon or an Anna at this point I feel like everyone's you know especially right now when you're so close to the end as well you want to win that money right so I think maybe I think you can see that

34:46 She really cares about doing well in the game because you know in the most recent episode you know she was so much more I guess like more talkative because she was like trying to make sure people would like not vote for her and stuff which obviously didn't do very well for her but you know it's you could see that she was getting stressed because she didn't want to get kicked off of the show and I have a feeling it's not just because she like had pride and didn't want to be seen as a Trader you know it's obviously because you just didn't want to get kicked off of the show so she yeah I disagree yeah and I think especially at this point just so close to the in-game right it's like you want to win that money right and I think maybe the easiest way to win is being a traitor because you can kind of while you don't control the banishments you're in control in terms of you're definitely not going to get randomly sent to the fight to the farm yeah right so there's definitely and plus you kind of know who the other Trader is as well yeah and so you can kind of make your own alliances and votes and stuff like that you could say that the safety and numbers are only for Traders because like at the end of the day the faithful might think that they have sex their numbers but they don't know you know they're young oh for sure if somebody's faithful or not well you

36:06 Say that but you know I don't want to talk too much about this because there's a different show but on the Australian Traders one of the Traders has been specifically targeting their other traders to come across as more of a faithful so it's like you know you say safety numbers and Traders who can kind of trust each other because they're on the same boat but at the same time can you really trust the yeah and to be honest we might see that happen with Colin and Brooke now yeah I mean you know we definitely get sort of hints of it because Colin you know getting back on Craig Collins the one who gets blackmailed yes Colin Higgins black Melody obviously tasty becomes a Trader with Brooke but Colin is still very weary of bro because I think he sees what broke that it was broken you know definitely done that to Robbie definitely Brooke and Dan were leaving the charge against Robbie so I think Coloma have picked up the RK Robbie was probably Robbie was probably seduced just so then they can throw under the bus like that you know so immediately it Connor doesn't really trust Brook and you know it's trying to decide who to send to the farm and they've got you know a bunch of different options I've got Julia she's

37:26 One but Collins have disagrees with that idea because Julia it's got a bit of rivalry with Kings another name Brooke brings up is Kings but since I kind of have a bit of rivalry with each other they don't and Sam also Anna is getting for Kings as well like there's a bit of yeah and a you know a thing there yeah and also Justine which unfortunately Justine does gets into the farm what is your thoughts on their on their pick of sending Justine to the farm yeah I think that Justine is not I think she's playing more with her head than her heart and I'm not saying that there are any players who aren't playing with their head I think they all are like to be this far in the game you have to be you know pretty onto it well yeah it generally yeah but I think there are some players who are probably more you know playing from the passion side like so for example like Anna I think that she's I think I would call Anna like a like a like a more strategic Brody you know like she's got that kind of Brody like I'm gunning for this person I'm like so like invested in this thing like and like kind of yeah playing from

38:47 Her heart more but I also think that she hasn't put as a Target on her back as big as Brody did for herself I think Anna probably saw that happen and then she's like smarter about the way she goes about it yeah but anyway so people like Anna who play you know from their hearts I think that it's better to keep them around because as long as you can keep them on the wrong person then you know they're more likely to be tunnel visioned and I think Justine isn't necessarily like gunning for somebody or doesn't have a vendetta for anyone or you know not that anyone has anywhere but yeah I think Justine's more just very like considerate of it all and then so she's kind of dangerous at this point for that reason yeah 100 agree with you and you know Julie and Anna they're different going after Kings is kind of going after them well he was for a while So Justin's the sort of perfect person where she's not necessarily going after anyone no one's really going after her so she's kind of in the perfect middle spot of just take her out you know so there's some confusion but he's still kind of kept the rivalries and the game yeah yeah and you know we

40:07 Get a very wild breakfast this morning Hamish so we have we have Colin come in and Colin does something extremely smart where he throws out vanda's name and Sam's name as people who'd be really good as a seduction right so he's kind of throwing smoke and mirrors almost where it's like you know these two people are like quite quiet so if you were to seduce someone they would be a great person to seduce because of kind of give the Traders like that's interesting you say that because Sam is simultaneously quiet and not at all like he actually is quite outspoken but he's so he's the kind of like really hopeful idealistic outspoken where you know I think he kind of like wants the best for things and so he's you know he seems like kind of sweeter and like you know oh he wouldn't hurt a fly inside I get I get Colin like he's like it's easier to say he would be a good Trader yeah exactly and you know we do see a bit of an alliance form who you know where it's Colin Anna Julia and Sam you know the four of them all kind of look each other it's like yeah all of us are definitely faithfuls all sort of have their Pact but

41:27 Here's where and I think this is probably my favorite part of the whole episode you was way too hard on this next part I saw the mirror in it but go on yeah we're Kings he just walks in and he's like okay everyone I've got a great a great plan right and they're like okay what's the plan and he's gonna call Brooke out which originally I thought it would be oh he's gonna call Brooke out for maybe being like a trade or something right but nah he's calling him out of being a selfish faithful and you know broccoli comes on in and Kings you know right at the bat it's like he's like I'm voting for you tonight yeah I just want to let you know brother I'm voting for you for you tonight and Brooke is just shock and he's just like because I think you're a whip and selfish it's like okay I am okay with King's place like strategy yeah Andre like I actually I see the Merit in it like it I don't think it was executed as well as he'd hoped for but like I got what he was trying to do like and

42:47 It did work it like it actually worked like he figured out who one of the Traders was because of it you know not everyone's believing him but he's still figured it so you know I feel like it was like a subpar strategy that worked it works but like not super well because now people don't trust him but at least he's figured out who a Trader is we'll get to that yeah but also step two of his plan is that after breakfast he goes like he sits you know Brooke assign this is like hey don't worry Brooke I trust you a lot don't you worry I trust you a lot I threw under the bus but I trust you a lot and we're back throw back to ages ago when Colin's like he's like band I think you're faithful yeah and King's just like I was just kind of seeing everyone's reactions you're gonna and this is where I could see the Strategic part of it like what you know you were saying what you know Andre sort of brings up you know kind of the strategy because this next part does actually make a lot of sense where he's kind of saying who is like who's going to really push hard for Brooke after he said that and he's kind of not really saying anything right so that was able to pick out who could be you know a Trader and stuff he's willing to just randomly jump on there who's

44:07 Really agreeable or yeah but then it gets completely debunked in my opinion with literally this next bit where Brooke and Tim like okay so what's your guess what's your name and King's like oh don't worry I know what I'm doing it's like okay what are you doing and they've had this whole conversation where it's like okay but we all need to be on the same page otherwise I've been four stick together it's gonna be 4-3 or we will vote differently you'll be like one and no matter what they've got the majority in case is like her yeah I guess that to the onset of that was just like was like what we're doing is like figuring that out during the day we're gonna have to communicate about it throughout the day or like before we go to the banishment or something like let's just like see how people are at on the challenge you know the point of that the strategy is so that we can see how people act today yeah and then let's like kind of like you know Recon you know later on and then we can you know figure that out I and then it just didn't go like that but like I think that was that was the point that was the idea and then I think that they all just got confused when they were like communicating about it and then they just didn't really yeah so

45:28 Like I said it was like a sub a subpar plan that did work and it just it was subpar because it was just I don't know it was Yeah medium reward yeah and somehow worked I would give him credit his plan didn't work because he was able to identify that Colin is a Trader but it was you know this is why I like to call a Michael hook move or a Mucky move right where you just do something so chaotic and it doesn't make a lot of sense it turns out to be right but since it's so chaotic and doesn't make a lot of sense no one really sort of jumps on board you know enough mentioned yeah the thing is right that Kings has been not playing he hasn't been playing like this right yeah and so it's like for him to just suddenly start playing like this I don't think that's necessarily like bad for him because I think people like he explained what his strategy was at the banishment but yeah because it was the morning after somebody was blackmailed I think that like this would indicate like he's now a traitor and he's trying to come across as a faithful and he's just like caking it you know what I mean and so he just looks like he's cracking under the pressure being a Trader wrong timing to do it

46:48 Yeah like I do like I'm actually all for this strategy like I actually don't think it's a bad strategy it's yeah just it just wasn't like it didn't have all the everything ironed out you know yeah which you know something was going to bring up was that this move is something that I used to do you know way back when we used to do Mafia in theater Sports Ava you know you were there with us during theater Sports as well where you know I wouldn't even be like any sort of character in Mafia werewolf but still we're just trying to throw people under the bus for no reason but unfortunately that's why I always kept on being either a sing to the farm or B odied out during the management because no one would just you know you know that something from The Dark Knight and it's something along the lines of some men just want to see the world burn yeah that's you that's definitely me and you know we get you know sent on to the mission here and at first I was a bit confused by this Mission because there's something about like accounting and stuff but then actually realize by accounting for Henry put those words together but it's literally a counting challenge right so

48:08 Yeah the players are in piers and they must count to 13 minutes and 13 seconds exactly when they think they've reached that point then they're going to stand up they say that they're done but while the players are counting there's like a lot of noises you know the background you've got you know people coming in to try and like distract them and stuff like that and the team that's the closest to the actual time wins the trip to the Armory what did you think of this challenge as a whole I like this Challenge and while we're getting into like before we've explained what actually ended up happening I like Andre's question yeah so okay I think that okay look so Kings went solo and he got pretty close he did pretty well and so I really think like it depends how easily distracted you are like you know how well and you know Kings is a musician you imagine he'd have a decent Rhythm right yeah but I like to think that things like that wouldn't throw me off like yeah they were it's like it was spooky because it was meant to be like ghosts in the room but if you rationalize it right if you just like think about what's actually happening like there are just people that are getting paid to drop hands you know and you don't necessarily know they're

49:28 Going to do that but as there are distractions happening you know like this is just the these people's job like I'm not in any danger I literally just have to keep counting yeah I like to think that I would be able to get through it and that hopefully just by doing this like you know minute hand second hand or something I like to think that I would get through it well but you know I mean Colin thought he was pretty on to it and he was pretty far so I don't know I would probably go alone just you know you know being untrusting of other people like not wanting to be let down by my teammate yeah what about you I mean I'm someone who actually works well with a lot of distractions and a lot of chaos you know which you probably know that about me Hamish you know where when there's like a lot of I guess noise and Chaos I just need a moment to just be like okay let's go right and I kind of just sort of thrive in that sort of environment so I feel like I could have probably done this solo but also at the same time when it comes to doing like the bare minimum or like the basic things this what I'm mostly really bad at like I can't draw a circle you know I can't cut in a straight line with you know some scissors so I feel like you

50:48 Know counting to 60 13 times and then another 13 seconds and then another 13 seconds with a bunch of noises and distractions I definitely would dispute all over the place but Andre brings up a really a really great question here if you two have partnered up for this challenge who would be the counter do you think do you think that you would you would not like being the minute counter right not the second counter do you think that you would like have like you know like three fingers up and then be like oh did I have three did I follow like do you think you'd be able to hold on to it well because I think I would be all Goods counting the 60 over and over yeah but if you if you think that you can hold on to the minutes if you're worried you'd forget what how many minutes you've done then I would do it like basically I'll just take what you feel less comfortable doing I mean I'm someone who also gets distracted very easily as well so I feel like I would have put like seen everyone walking around me and I was like ah yo what's up what's up at the same time I mean you know you know that's about me as well I'm definitely a massive overthinker like I overthink every tiny little thing you know and so

52:09 By holding up three fingers of likewise that three was that two is that three or is that two yeah did I have a fourth one so I feel like either way yeah I mean either way I feel like I would still find a way to stuff it up that's if I've got one Talent it's making the easiest thing so it can possible just so just like saying one of my songs in your head but at like 60 BPM yes 60 beats per minute yeah you know I'm not one to really brag or anything but I played the trumpet in 2015 so I know a tiny bit about music well you know one time I went to go and make a cup of tea with two tea bags because I was like I want the extra caffeine and I accidentally put in three wow you must have been pretty doped up on caffeine yeah man from tea wait but tea bags doesn't give you caffeine yeah English breakfast is a bit of the caffeine in it so does green tea oh that's why I have so much tea bro because I've cut out coffee oh okay that makes things that makes sense and I think from Ava King's

53:29 Got the short end of the stick for the submission and columns yeah too into it Colin would be Andre because Colin was so like oh like I love all the spooky stuff he saw him being so excited by everything going on Andre would be like I love horror movies yeah and you know I've shared the story with you Hamish but earlier this year I went to spookers which is a sort of horror attraction site we have here in New Zealand and I'm a very loud person and all the actors recognize that and they're like okay this is someone who we can mess with right so quite often with other actors I would try start a conversation with them even when you're not really supposed to I'll still try to start a conversation and it just opened the door for them to just roast me as hard as they can you know like probably the greatest example is a clown came up to us and she was like are you scared and I said no I'm Michael just throwing up the dad joke and the clown she found that pretty funny because normally most people would be like oh my gosh oh my gosh but the Clown's done following us throughout the whole sort of you know and she was like my whole thing yeah she could have been like Michael's

54:49 Like oh my gosh but it's probably the most funniest thing which everyone's still laughs about you know with the crypto went is that she said to the group behind us because all the groups are close together are you scared or are you Michael that's pretty funny yeah I would have been you know so into it right where to the point where I would have started like you know like talking about it yeah you would have been like bro like that's such a cool black T-shirt you're wearing and I would have been like Michael are you counting yeah and I'd be like wait I was meant to count anyways so we take these peers we have Brook Sam Anna Julia Colin Vander and then Paul Kings by himself and I just want to point out I love the I guess the relationship development we have between Colin and Vander you know right at the start of the Season you know we've got Colin spreading Bandit's name around on her being you know a traitor She's Not Just Vanda she's Darth Vander and then you know we have that moment where cons like Banda yeah I think you're a faithful and then everyone just blows up at Colin

56:09 But they seem to be like working together really well kind of sensing you know we often see them like together in challenges and everything again for the fact that they got 19 minutes yeah except for that yeah they work together as a team but they don't work well in the challenges does that make sense no I'm not I'm no but just keep rolling and Anna and Julia for they get the closest time and they win the trip to the Armory and Anna wins The Shield when she won the shield did you think Anna was gonna get banished because of the curse to be honest earlier on I was kind of like Get rid of Anna because you know I was worried about her you know voting for Dan but now that Dan's gone like Anna's all good like she's the bro like you know I hope you know I guess no like I think I want I want the Bro to stick around you know yeah believe it or not you know I don't know if I should be saying this is this is not actually a curse yeah it's not it's not that the curse ends up getting broken at this banishment and because it

57:30 Gets broken when it's a Trader who does who gets voted out with it I mean yeah that's what I mean no because Philly I had the had the shield yeah a faithful Daniel's Robbie Robert was a Trader yeah but oh dude Andre is running for the Bro Andre is cutting for the Pro oh damn man all right you know I'm sold I'm sold I want to go to war against Andre now that's who I'm rooting for I'm team Julia now who's Dan who and but we do see that Kings is very SAS on Colin you know we sort of mentioned earlier you know that the Kings he does have the right read he's able to pick up as Colin but at this point I feel like he's lost so much influence in the game yeah and I think that's right if he had any he'd definitely lost all of it with the breakfast that morning what's your what's your thoughts on that I think that Ken's is probably in the drawer for your segment bro

58:51 Let's bring it up now and because then we'll come back to our final decision obviously at the end of this episode what is what is the smartest move of the week wait get ready we've got something we forgot that yeah you've got a big box let me try it's a smartest proof of the week coming to your vanilla fire tank we like to think it's the lucky take but really it's another fine take we're here with the smartest move of the week I don't know what rhymes with weak but here it is the smartest move of the week dude thank you for the like when you stopped coming on the thing like we were not in the same time as one another either because of the delay or just I don't know man I don't think we're at the same tempo I was having to shut my eyes and try to like feel I think maybe I think what's so special about our theme song is completely improvised so we don't know what the tempo is going to be what the words it's going to be it's just whatever just naturally comes to us you know but I feel like the theme song it's great it's perfect but

1:00:12 I've got two moves for the smartest moves of the week how many moves have you got in your in your head I'm I'm just gonna wing it bro or just see we're just I'm just gonna I'm just gonna riff I'm just gonna riff what do you mean all right so my moves it so the obvious one is the King's one right you know where you straight out you know where you target someone at breakfast not because you think they're a Trader but because you are because they're not yeah because you're sure you're sure they're not that's because a selfish faithful to then tell them that actually you're all good with them you trust them a lot you're just seeing other people's reactions to them not properly explain your full plan to the people to the person that you just threw under the bus to everyone so there's five one also that you can find out Khan's a Trader pretty smart bro yeah very smart very smart but here's another one though and I think you're gonna like this you know when we're sort of roughly talking last night you know you know I sort of have one move in my mind and those it took me everything to not tell you this because I just I started cracking up so hard it is

1:01:34 The only intentional strategic move Robbie has made in the game which is wink at Dan tonight it's not funny yeah that's pretty golden I got I got yeah I got a few that I came up with on the spot now so they're all pretty mid one of them was I think it was pretty smart of Sam to have that blue soft toy that he did as a kid because that way when it came to this challenge they had an easy they had an easy question so by him preparing for this like probably decades in advance like he was already ready the other one isn't actually a move by one of the players but rather one of the player's parents giving the kid the middle name Margaret because then when it came to the fourth letter of their name it's like easy G like we've already got the letter so that was pretty smart of them to give their kid the middle name Margaret I'm pretty you know good Bros and the final one the final but I reckon this is my

1:02:54 Smartest move of the week and this happened a few weeks before this week right it was it was Colin calling out Darth Vander so that when later on he would get blackmail to become a traitor people would already be gunning for Vanda because she's got suspicion on her so he basically pulled a Kimberley but he didn't get voted out in the process or kill sent to the final process so it was Colin definitely intentionally planning that Darth vander's demise from very early on that is that is my that is my smartest move the weekend Namaste we've got we've got one from Andre let's quickly go oh where's the where's that it is here we go smarter Smith of the week piling on Vander due to we got hit with a crocodile tears by Van Dylan day one yeah I mean there's also a bit of a bit of a smart move yeah so I guess we'll save our final decisions for the end of this recap Hamish but padific keep a strong a strong mind on what you and what you're going to lock in for the

1:04:14 Smartest move I'm not locking in on Robbie getting rid of Dan I said Dan who before but I am actually cut Ari Samsung NFA 4 because she swore her children oh yeah she's sworn oh yeah I don't think I've told you about Johnny fair play but he changed up the family visit in Survivor where I think it's his brother or his cousin or something but got them to come on in and tell fear play that his grandma had died and so it's like a really sad emotional moment and everyone's like oh fair play you know you have the family visit you know you need to know about your grandma the agreement was fine it was it was just a lie to sort of get sympathy from the other players and stuff to kind of let him have his time with us his brother or his cousin or something that is not fair player yeah no that's not I'll stop it yeah it was yeah like I still recall watching the finale of that they even like had his like Grandma like the interview Scrambler like did you know that fair play with was gonna do this and she's like no I had no idea

1:05:35 Oh it's his best friend this is best friend my bad this is better that's much better Ava's saying that she'd be the worst trailer because she'd be pulling every sympathy card until she was out yeah [Music] if you're a trade I guess you know a quick side of our topic if you're a Trader what would be sort of your move like what would be your thing to sort of sort of calmly run down from everyone down yeah on I guess like in terms of them being like suspicious of you like what would you do not suspicious of you if you're a Trader well it really it depends man because like are they coming at me and if so how so right because you know when like Colin was suspicious of Lauren and so he was just like oh who are you gonna send to the farm tonight you know and then she was like I wouldn't do that it's like she just didn't handle it well like in that situation I'd just like you bro and then like laugh afterward because then it just looks like I don't I'm not taking it seriously you know or something like that you know just kind of go with the joke if somebody is coming at me very hard like I think I would become very focused on what my body is doing and try to be you know try not to for example when Brooke was sorry

1:06:55 Brody was going for Matt you know his leg was shaking a lot and stuff like that like I would try not to do something so yeah it really depends on the situation I think in a general sense what you would want to be doing at the round table would be obviously throwing out another name quite overtly because why wouldn't you know what I mean like you don't want to get voted off I don't think that looks tradery I think that just looks like you're like bro like I'm a faithful I don't want to get voted off I genuinely believe it could be this person though you know yeah and so that but if it wasn't at the round table I guess I would be I guess kind of doing a bit of what like Dan was like kind of did like here and there where it's like you're basically giving people ideas that it's somebody else but making them think they came up with the plan because what I think you don't want to do is to be like nah bro I reckon it's this person they get voted off as if they fall and then you're like oh I didn't I didn't know you know you don't want to be stuck in that situation so I would fully like I think yeah like I'm somebody who is very considerate of like how I word things very like particularly and so I think that I would you know take my time to consider how I would want to say what I want to say so that people don't really get

1:08:15 What I'm saying but they think that they're like coming up with you know people who could be Traders and stuff and just try to like very subtly like push it away from me I think that's how I would probably play it yeah I feel like I'll do kind of like what a Matt did just be like you're an extremely jokey kind of be a bit over the top and stuff I feel like I'm someone who naturally is a bit sus and a couple things at times right but I feel like I'm someone who has personality to kind of get away with a lot of things you know and yeah you seem suspicious when you're not doing anything wrong and so I think if people have had enough time to get to know you they'd know like that's just what you're like that you're not actually being sussed and then so I feel like that you know if you could stay in the game long enough could work to your advantage otherwise no bro you're going home fast yeah you pretty much pretty much yeah oh yeah you guys suck okay yeah probably just like you know I think we're going to get some of that next week actually I think Kings is just going to go hard like you guys I'm interested to see it speaking of you know what's happening in the show let's get back to that yeah which holy sugar totally should so soon as we move along and you know Kings is going hard after Colin at the round table you're not like calling

1:09:35 Him out how he just agrees with every name and stuff and Colin I feel like does a really great job on spinning this back around at Kings to make Kings look even more such because it's like yeah you know you gave your multiple names and I agreed with her and then you know he just immediately shoots those names back at Kings before King says any real time to respond so you yeah it sort of says how kings you know mentioned Sam you know and about how Sam mentioned Anna and stuff so I quite liked what Colin was doing here you know just really just like sort of dating names back at Kings to make him seem even more untrustworthy if that makes sense the thing with Kings from this from whatever from this episode is that I think that he is very like concedible like earlier on like he had his plan with the whole breakfast thing when he was explaining it to Brook and Sam his plan made sense like again it wasn't like the best plan ever but it made sense right and it did technically work but like when he was explaining it like Brooke didn't fully get it straight away nor did Sam and when they asked him about it Kings is just like oh I don't know but it's like bro you do know like your plan does make sense and like he just had to like go with it and keep explaining it more and then at this round table when he calls out Colin like oh you know you're just being so

1:10:55 Agreeable and stuff and Colin's like basically saying that's not true but it is true like kings was right he just had to be like I actually know like that's not what happened this is what happened and then kind of rebut against him you know what I mean but yeah instead he just kind of shut down and I don't know if it's because you know King's up until this point at least as far as what we can see from the edit you know he's been more like you know polite and doesn't speak up as much and stuff and so maybe that's just in his nature to not be so combative with people but I think like you know now that he's actually trying to play the game harder and he's trying to make stuff happen like if that's what he's doing he needs to he needs to not just like fold as soon as somebody puts the heat back yeah because then I reckon he can do so he can make stuff happen man like his plan could have been more concrete he could have maybe sweared people against Colin if he was just like nah bro like on like you're making this up you were agreeing and whatever you know yeah I think it comes down to a personality thing as well right you know you've got do you have people who just aren't confrontational people right so they'll bring something up but then if you confront them about it they'll start you know closing down shutting down because they don't want that confrontation right you know and Kings it seems like a lovely guy like really lovely right you're going to super sweet super

1:12:15 Innocent but you can tell that column like in Colin says like you know at the start of the episode that this family and friends always say that you know where there's trouble you'll find a minute you know you're always yeah right on Colin ending stuff so Colin he's not afraid to get his hands dirty he's not afraid to really get on there and really going hard and stuff you know we've seen we do it before against Darth Vander against Dan you know against you know multiple people he goes then hard and strong right and so I think when you have someone who's just naturally probably not that much into confrontation against someone who is probably into confrontation there's a bit of a bad yeah I mean it didn't it didn't really work out for Kings yeah it's I don't know it sucks that like I feel like you know people are definitely memeing on his plan I feel kind of bad because yeah I don't know I want to stand up for the guy man I feel like it just could it could have worked yeah I mean I definitely think you know there are parts of the plan that's actually really smart I will admit you know there was like really smart but maybe in a way spoken to Brooke and Sam about it before doing it so it wasn't at breakfast but it was like I don't know like during the day like yeah at the challenge you know what I mean

1:13:35 Like if at the challenge is like oh by the way Brooke like I've decided like I'm gonna vote for you like and then he still gets half a day or you know and he'd spoken at the breakfast or like just after breakfast before you know what I mean like I don't know if it was if it was more it was better calculated I think it could work well yeah and you know I've been perfectly honest you know I watched this episode three times entitled to really understand why but all I really got was that Vander seemed suspicious because in this episode she seemed much more confident I guess that's just a bit more sort of outspoken rather than just be a bit you know quiet which Julia and Anna were definitely very sort of suspicious of like why is she all of a sudden you know now a bit more confident but more outspoken is it because she has been you know blackmailed to being a traitor and so we go to the vote and everyone basically piles on to Vander King's sources fight under Colin and vanderthross and vote onto Kings and unfortunately Vander is banished what's your thoughts on Vander I think that she seems nice man like it's yeah I get I get it like I don't I don't think it was UN unripe that

1:14:56 Julian Anna would be suspicious of her acting different you know I think at this point in the game if you've acted a certain way for so long and then all of a sudden you don't and particularly the morning after somebody's been black beat after somebody's been blackmailed it's yeah man like it's it was just bad timing I get why Vanda was being different like she was trying to clear her name because she realized that it was suspicion on her and so she was like damn I need to be more vocal now and yeah in fact that didn't do much good so I think she was kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place so I don't know I feel kind of bad for her and I think that you can see that from the faithful as well that they felt quite bad about this like you know having voted off Traders successfully twice in a row and then they voted off such a nice you know faithful I think that yeah they were probably a little cut about that yeah definitely Van Der she was you know she was you know hugely showing in the start of the season but then she slowly you know sort of got less and this screen time as the show sort of went on until these last couple of episodes but from what we saw I definitely liked bander I think which is more of a quieter sort of a social player more than a strategic player but I definitely do think you

1:16:16 Know like obviously you know Brody really helped her out a lot but the fact that she got out of the second banishment and everyone went for Mike instead of her when the original plan was her yeah that's obviously very impressive right like while Brody is was such an influential force in Saving her van to herself was able to get herself out of that situation yeah as well yeah and I think like I okay this is the vibe band that gives me right like imagine you're like a teenager and you're like at one of your first jobs that you've ever had right and you go there like you're not fully confident you know because it's like maybe your first job and like I don't know whatever and then like so you feel kind of like you know a little bit alienated by some of your co-workers like you feel a little intimidated because they know what they're doing but then there's that like that one like you know older than you lady you know what I mean who's like you kind of like look up to her because she's nice and she's just kind of like the adult who's like patient and like doesn't seem intimidating and you're like okay I'm gonna go like be boys with her like she gives off that kind of vibe she gives off the kind of vibe where it's like you could like take comfort with her you know what I mean yeah definitely and this is where I feel like we get to I think this last sort of scene that we get here the Shrek the Shrek's hat is

1:17:36 Really going to set up what the next week in the finale is going to be all about you know like we're going there yeah I have some records bro and Colin he is immediately unsure about Brooke you know he's really you know very sussed out with Brooke and he calls them out straight away as well by being like you know while Kings was coming out why didn't you speak up for me you know and Brooke is trying to say oh you know I was doing how I normally sort of communicate by you know throwing this out and that out and stuff into the short bursts but no Colin wants someone who'll like you know stand up next to him and be like no it's definitely not Colin but he's just not getting that from Brooke and I think this friction which you know Andre sort of brings up here how it's sort of you know verbal banter between them with the yippee yeah at the very end but I think that's all smoking mirrors and I think next week they're really going to come head to head against each other yeah maybe not next episode but like the one maybe the different types of co-traders like I think the perfect co-trader for Brooke was Dan like they were not just because they're mates but just in general like those personalities work so well together you know Brooke doesn't need to be with somebody or are they like I don't think he would

1:18:56 Work I don't think his style Works to be with somebody as bold as Colin you know Colin needs somebody who's gonna like you know have his back in that way but like I feel like that's too risky for Brooke like that you know what I mean they're just different types of players as Traders similar in some ways you know similar yeah but also quite different and so I think that it's yeah definitely causing some friction yeah absolutely and I think two alpha type players can't work together right you definitely need like a wider scenario and even with Dan and Matt you know because I feel like you need the strategist and you need the social player as well you know and you know originally Dan was the strategist Matt was the social player Lauren unfortunately we didn't get to see much of her to really know if she would have been more strategic or social but she definitely had a lot of you know potential Brooke I feel like he was a bit of a combination of strategic and social but when but once Matt was eliminated productivity took over the more social side yeah but the thing but the thing with Colin is that Collins also social and is also strategic so they both kind of have this Alpha thing of oh I can do what you very similar in that way but they're different in like how

1:20:16 They present it kind of where everyone is just very like you know kind of yeah more kind of like oh I'm gonna throw something there throw something there hey I'm also social you know what I mean yeah exactly and just once again another very interesting chat where you know Brooke and Colin are talking about the Final Four and you know Brooke is like so come on what's your final four and Colin immediately doesn't want to say anything it's like no what's your final for and I think now hear me out on this language I think Colin has already planned to throw Brooke under the bus and he wants to find a forward to be your alliance Resort which is him Anna Julia and Sam what's your what's your thoughts on that Theory I feel like my thought on that theory is that isn't strategic because I my gut feeling tells me that Anna and Julia when it comes down to it would team up against Colin and so I don't think that's in his best interest I think that what is right here is to recognize that Anna and Julia are two such strong players at this point in the game like they hold all their power that little Duo I think primarily because

1:21:37 They're so tight-knit and at this point like having somebody that will vote with you is so important and you know particularly as Anna is quite outspoken like I think Anna is a very powerful player right now so Julia being like her mate is like you know and so what I think is so important is to split them up by sending one of them to the farm or voting them out and so I think what you'd be doing here is voting with Kings because I think Kings is suspicious probably of both Julia and Anna at this point but he's probably mostly suspicious of should be suspicious of Anna because Anna's been gunning for Kings for a lot yeah I mean it doesn't really matter either way I think that I think that the smart move is to do with Brookstone which is teaming up with kings that to me even if it's not for the whole time no okay look I see I see this in two ways this is like this is what I think Brooke should do you know and this does involve voting out my new allegiance to the new home dog but like you know this is this is what I think that Brook should do right I was thinking about this last night let's see if I can remember it so they have to vote out oh sorry they have to they have to

1:22:57 Throw their Farm you know into the mix of Anna and Julia one of them has the shield it's a risk if they get rid of and I think they are doing this anyway but you know one of those two but anyway if they get rid of Julia rip then you've got Colin Brook Kings Sam and Anna and then that night you would have to you would have to gun for against Colin you'd have to he's already got Kings and probably Sam on his side I think I think Sam trusts Brooke Moore then Colin at this point maybe and if not I think I think Sam trust Kings a lot and Kings is sold on Colin and if King if Brooke because Brooklyn King's like pretty tight knit they're like Juliana right and so if those two can talk about and be like we have to get stamina outside they get Sam then it's a three to two they can collectively vote out Colin then it's yeah then it's Brooke Anna and Sam and Kings right yeah and then they send Sam to the farm right

1:24:18 So now it's just those three Anna Brook Kings and Anna are going for each other they're not going for Brooke even if even if Anna goes for Brooke then he just votes with Kings right and then so basically Brooke just has to vote for one of them and it doesn't matter and that's how Brooke wins if he votes for Anna and then she has the shield what she does have the shield but if he votes for Anna then it's a little more chaotic than that and then I think that he has to take out Colin sooner I think he has to he has to throw oh maybe he maybe then he does go for like somebody like kings and try to get in with Anna Mann it's I don't know I was thinking about that this morning at like 5 00 am and I just I came up with it and I forgot while eating the noodles bro on your carpet yeah no but like I've forgotten I've forgotten what it was now but man it's definitely a more chaotic and risky way but I think that first way if they vote out Julia successfully that to me sounds like this modest and most like likely you know flow of events if they play that strategically yeah I think that's the first way to the end 100 yep I think you know any

1:25:38 Other way is extremely hard of broadcasting because I think I think we both agree there's no way Colin and Brooke end up in the finals together yeah like yeah for the faithfuls obviously they don't know who the Traders are but they know who is volatile and I think volatility is really not good for them right now because even though Kings is a faithful he's basically playing for the Traders because of how volatile he is and so I think Anna and Julia they need to team up with Colin against Kings because Kings was throwing Colin under the bus what they want to be doing is getting those three in voting this is if Anna gets the thing and she blocks with the shields if she's still alive next time those three neither go for kings and then I think faith will win I think that would mean because Colin doesn't want to be at the end with Brooke I think he just wants to have that money for himself basically and then and then that night Colin would send either Anna or Julia to the farm because obviously he can't that would be how Colin wins he needs to get Kings out and then with Brooke he needs to send Anna to the farm and then and then the next day with Julia and Sam

1:26:58 They need to send Brooke home yeah and then and then I guess Cullen would probably vote with whoever he thinks seems more you know swayable I think that's how Colin wins those are my predictions those are my two predictions for how either trade a good one fair enough fair enough yeah and you know Andre breaks up a great Point here Colin vs King's final week yeah I think I think that's what next week is definitely going to come down to as well if you're actually going to be Colin vs Keynes then I feel like it's going to be Colin versus Brooke because I think it really depends if they land on Julia you know Andre you know brings up a comment here where they sport who got murdered and or who got into the farm in the next in the trial for next week I don't think they did and as is because often with their next time ons they edit in a very specific way like Oracle when we were watching it at one point you know Sam you know he says how the Anna said that you know she's willing to bit on her children's lives that she's you know a faithful right not a Trader but the way that got edited and the next time on was as if Brooke had said that and Sam was calling that out and how suspicious that was you know so I feel like they also

1:28:18 Another example of that is for when Anna was saying to Vanda that you seem more like combative or like you've come you come ready for war something to that effect in the next time on it looked like she was saying that to Brooke and not to Vander so yeah I'd be wary about the next Amazon the next time ons yeah definitely it's difficult observation because Julia was not in for next time ons but I think I think that you know either they accidentally spoiled I don't think or I think that they didn't show Julia to make it not obvious because if they showed Julia you know that they're misfired on Anna oh true yeah so that they have to not show her otherwise you know for sure yeah exactly hey Dale oh my God how are you it's your boy Dale's phone showing up hey Dale I still I still remember us shredding which were the chicken together yeah one of my old Flats that's right that's right my memory of Dale yeah for your chicken 21st but yeah you know Colin and Brooke they're gonna risk it for either Anna or Julia I feel like this is the right move for Brooke but

1:29:39 Do you think this was the right move for Colin to risk sending annual Julia to the farm oh man that's that's the thing like he needs them honestly like as I was saying like I basically explain how I think both Traders could win individually and yeah Collins Way of winning his road to the end is by getting rid of Kings voting with Anna and oh whatever I forgot how I explained it made it made sense though just watch one just watch it back when this is the video but no he needs Anna and Julia and then eventually he needs to send Anna to the farm yeah he needs to vote off Kings and then send Anna to the farm and then vote off Brook I think that's what I said yeah something along those lines yeah but yeah I'm really excited for next week but you know before we go more into that we still need to decide the smartest move of the week have you not Robbie bro not Robbie don't do this to me I'm still grieving you know for me it was coming down to Robbie or Kings but I feel like you know some of our takes

1:30:59 Have been you know pretty wild for the smartest move of the week and I feel like you know what Kings did was wild and completely out there but technically he was right but he kind of just did things in the wrong way so I'm not sure about you but I'm happy for that to be the smartest move off of the week what's your what's your thoughts stupid yeah I mean obviously some of my some of my inputs some of my like submissions to this were like fully memeing like you know the Bros parents being like Margaret's a good middle man but nah I Ricky I'll meet you there I reckon Kings saying I'm gonna vote for you Brooke I actually trust you I know you're a faithful that's my input as well yeah I as one that you know Brooke that I'm gonna vote for you not because you're a Trader but because you are a selfish faithful but don't worry I trust you I've got a plan I've got to sort it out but then but I don't know who we're voting for though yeah but I mean that was part of the plan that he had to figure it out oh okay you guys are so mean but you know so just to recap all of our smartest moves of the week we have Sam Fury gapping it to grab the 10K you

1:32:19 In a whole seventh of the prize like just minutes into the game and then leaving we then have your new number one Julia telling everyone that if you've vote me up she's gonna look like a fool afterwards and then we have the sixth episode plan which couldn't believe I've heard like breakdown of Robert to get it you know eliminated and then now we've got Kings you know blowing up on Brook only because he trusts them because he trusts them yeah it's these are very intelligent moves if you ask me let's give a quick Round of Applause Super Kings yeah for kings and for everyone but yeah any other comments you want to make before the end of the stream my friend oh man that if you're watching this you know maybe as a video or even if you're watching this live and you've seen not the not the series or maybe you just watched the most recent ones honestly gone to three now like the website or finding anywhere that you can watch it like I you know I don't watch that much you know reality TV I watch the Survivor Seasons that Michael shows me and I've been watching this now and like I'm so invested in this in

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